Colin Trevorrow fired from Star Wars: Episode IX due to disagreements over The Last Jedi

[ShaneFalco]

https://www.flickeringmyth.com/2018/03/rumour-colin-trevorrow-fired-star-wars-episode-ix-due-disagreements-last-jedi/



“There were two key things Trevorrow wanted to be changed – and they were not minor”, claims the rumour. “These two things have been known for a while around Disney. Firstly, he wanted Luke to still be alive in 9. He strongly disagreed with killing Luke off in 8 when he had just been re-introduced. Luke and Leia were to be a pivotal part of his script, with Leia’s Force affinity revealed in a much more brother/sister way that was apparently going to be ‘beautiful and tragic’. Mark Hamill loved it. ‘We were on the same page,’ as he’s said about Trevorrow’s storyline. However, Kennedy and Johnson wanted Luke dead – period. Second, he wanted Snoke to live, as his back story was to be more discussed. Fisher dying scuttled his original plan for the Leia Force affinity reveal, of course. But he still needed Luke alive for the story he wanted to tell to end the trilogy – more of a Luke handing off the baton to Rey and a Luke ‘walking off into the sunset’ idea, in the last film – rather than Luke dying in 8. They refused. He argued. They fired him.”

[Devilspawn]

F Disney.

[MOtorboat]

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[Northman]

I dont think the reactions are quite that bad MO lol but i would have to agree that the way Disney has chosen to write this series has been pretty bad. I couldnt even make it all the way through Jedi before turning it off. That has never happened with me for a Star Wars movie.

[Timmy!]

8 was a giant steaming pile of dog shit.

[MasterShake]

https://www.flickeringmyth.com/2018/03/rumour-colin-trevorrow-fired-star-wars-episode-ix-due-disagreements-last-jedi/

Eh, I would take this with a grain of salt Shane. This is an unsubstantiated rumor from Reddit and none of it adds up. Colin was actually pegged to write and direct Episode IX only and had no say in Episode VII's story and it sounds like he was given multiple shots and produced multiple drafts. After his movie the Book of Henry bombed is when they pulled the trigger to fire him and he sounds like a pain in the ass to work with. Was he like this because of the reasons stated in the rumor? Possibly.

I do find it concerning that around 4 directors were already replaced in these new Star Wars films going back to Rogue One. I will give you that some of the creative choices (or lack thereof with Episode VII especially) are directly tied to Kathleen Kennedy not wanting to cede control it seems. I think I would be more excited if Lord and Miller were still directing Han Solo instead of Ron Howard, I thought they did a great job with the Lego Movie. I feel that under Howard's direction we will get a visually impressive but by the numbers Star Wars flick. It's frustrating because aside from Rogue One it feels like they are wasting lots of potential to expand the Star Wars mythos in non-retarded Princess floating ways.

[chazoe60]

I am bummed that they followed the best Star Wars movie ever (Rogue One) with the worst. The Last Jedi was ******* hot garbage.

[Poet]

Hey, you were gone forever and you're back for a second and you're gone again (but we could always go try to get you back) vs. the final 'you're gone for good' is interesting.

But it's really more about developing new characters as opposed to just clinging onto the past.

[BeefStew25]

Colon Tomorrow

[MasterShake]

Hey, you were gone forever and you're back for a second and you're gone again (but we could always go try to get you back) vs. the final 'you're gone for good' is interesting.

But it's really more about developing new characters as opposed to just clinging onto the past.

And that is a big problem I had with Episodes VII and VIII. Rey and Kylo are "ok" but I could give a rats ass about Poe, Finn, and now Rose. I was invested in Luke, Leia, and Han almost right away.

[Magnificent Seven]

I stand with Colin Trevorrow. He is a real Star Wars fan.

[MOtorboat]

I stand with Colin Trevorrow. He is a real Star Wars fan.

:rolleyes:

Star Wars fan police. Jeebus.

[Magnificent Seven]

:rolleyes:

Star wars fan police. Jeebus.

lol

[BroncoJoe]

I'll just say this:

I enjoy Star Wars. I'm not someone who knows the series inside and out but care a lot about the original characters.

That said, the series needs to move forward. With new players. It's not going to be, nor will it ever be like the original series of movies.

I've enjoyed all the newest releases. Rogue One was terrific. I enjoyed The Force Awakens, even though it was a "cheap" ripoff of the original.

Haven't seen the latest one - Last Jedi?. But will soon. I go to these to be entertained. I don't really follow the whole story, so if the movie and actors are good, I'm good.

[ShaneFalco]

if i spammed 4 gifs in a row id get banned for a week.

MO is a snowflake and a cuckold

[MOtorboat]

if i spammed 4 gifs in a row id get banned for a week.

MO is a snowflake and a cuckold

What’s that? Snowflake doesn’t like to have threads derailed with moronic ranting and ravings and repeated GIFs?

No shit.

[BroncoJoe]

What’s that? Snowflake doesn’t like to have threads derailed with moronic ranting and ravings and repeated GIFs?

No shit.

The bulb power level is on dim, I'm afraid.

[ShaneFalco]

What’s that? Snowflake doesn’t like to have threads derailed with moronic ranting and ravings and repeated GIFs?

No shit.




What a loser.

[ShaneFalco]

Isnt MO like some 40 year old man?

Defending his Disney Wars?

Talk about acting like a triggered little bitch.

[BroncoJoe]

Shane on his usual Star Wars rant.

Probably wasn't even born when the first movie came out.

[ShaneFalco]

Shane on his usual Star Wars rant.

Probably wasn't even born when the first movie came out.


you didnt even see the movie.
but here you are posting in my thread like a manchild.

[BroncoJoe]

you didnt even see the movie.

Shut the **** up manchild.

LOL. At least I have man in my assigned title by you.

Run along little girl. Run along.

[ShaneFalco]

i love seeing a 90 year old and 40 year old turn into tweens.

[BroncoJoe]

i love seeing a 90 year old and 40 year old turn into tweens.

Do you need some tissue for your triggered feelings?

[ShaneFalco]

Do you need 15 dollars to see the film the thread is about?

I love donating to the elderly.

[BroncoJoe]

Do you need 15 dollars to see the film the thread is about?

I love donating to the elderly.

Uh, unless you have the ability to time travel, this film isn't going to be released for about 21 months.

But yes. I'll take your $15.

[ShaneFalco]

funny thing is. I never post in any of your threads. MO or you.

But here you are....

Trolling a thread about a movie you haven't even seen.

Why ? Because of me.

I am living rent free in your heads, so might as well give you the 15 bucks.

Boy it sure is empty up there.....

[BroncoJoe]

funny thing is. I never post in any of your threads. MO or you.

But here you are....

Trolling a thread about a movie you haven't even seen.

Why ? Because of me.

I am living rent free in your heads, so might as well give you the 15 bucks.

Boy it sure is empty up there.....

Probably because MO and I don't start stupid threads.

And, as stated, the movie isn't even out yet. How can anyone judge it?

[ShaneFalco]

why are you posting in a stupid thread then?

Just letting the world you are old, angry, and have wrinkled balls?

This article is about two films. The final one, and The Last Jedi.

[BroncoJoe]

why are you posting in a stupid thread then?

Just letting the world you are old, angry, and have wrinkled balls?

This article is about two films. The final one, and The Last Jedi.

Good night, sweet prince. Make sure your pacifier is on the nightstand in cse you need it.

[ShaneFalco]

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oh for the record MO.

I normally only post one gif. Because my gifs win the internet.

Your gifs are sad and desperate like your life

[ShaneFalco]

Good night, sweet prince. Make sure your pacifier is on the nightstand in cse you need it.

at least you are still young in heart.


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[Northman]

I'll just say this:

I enjoy Star Wars. I'm not someone who knows the series inside and out but care a lot about the original characters.

That said, the series needs to move forward. With new players. It's not going to be, nor will it ever be like the original series of movies.

I've enjoyed all the newest releases. Rogue One was terrific. I enjoyed The Force Awakens, even though it was a "cheap" ripoff of the original.

Haven't seen the latest one - Last Jedi?. But will soon. I go to these to be entertained. I don't really follow the whole story, so if the movie and actors are good, I'm good.



My only problem is i dont think they can act very well, they all seem really bland to me and the story is just unimpressive for me. Rogue One is the lone standout for me at this point. Im all for being entertained but 7 and 8 have done none of that for me personally.

[MOtorboat]

We're at a point where it doesn't matter what the storyline is, or who dies and who doesn't, Shane and people like him are just going to immediately blow a gasket and yell and scream about how they would've done it differently. Luke living through that ordeal (ALTHOUGH ITS A ******* MADE UP LAND WHERE JEDIS SURVIVE AS GHOSTS!) wouldn't have made the movie any better or worse, just different. People like Shane are just going to complain to complain at this point.

[Hawgdriver]

Shane is pretty good at this game.

[aberdien]

This thread has too many words and not enough gifs. 4/10

[Nomad]

Never heard of him without googling him. What's so great about Colin Trevorrow?

[Poet]

Isnt MO like some 40 year old man?

Defending his Disney Wars?

Talk about acting like a triggered little bitch.

One cannot throw out triggered when said one is triggered.

We've devolved into 'it takes one to know one'.

Le sigh.

The internet is probably the worst invention we've come up with as a species.

[ShaneFalco]

One cannot throw out triggered when said one is triggered.

We've devolved into 'it takes one to know one'.

Le sigh.

The internet is probably the worst invention we've come up with as a species.

triggered

:lol:

[Poet]

triggered

:lol:

You've reduced the term to essentially meaning someone reacts to something they don't like and says something about it.

So you're probably the most triggered person the site. Goodness.

[Poet]

And that is a big problem I had with Episodes VII and VIII. Rey and Kylo are "ok" but I could give a rats ass about Poe, Finn, and now Rose. I was invested in Luke, Leia, and Han almost right away.

Rey and Kylo have to follow up the entire baggage, both good and bad, of all of Star Wars and a fandom comparing nostalgia of childhood via their jaded adult eyes on new content.

That doesn't explain away the issues. However, I'll point to this - people were pissed that the parents of the new jedi weren't a certain way, but if they were the accusation would just be that it was copying an old plotline.

Nothing in the current timeline is ever going to be truly good enough. You have people whining that Luke, who was always a whiner, and a Jedi, who are the ultimate whiners, acted whiny in this movie.

Rogue One WAS a better movie, but it had an easy time in comparison because of it's spot on the timeline. That's the issue.

Here's the truth - Luke was always a shitty character. In under what, three months, he magically went from being a farmer to a Jedi killing badass with no real training, or explanation therein. He wanted to bang his sister, he whined constantly, and he was a liability until the end of the third movie.

He was 'deep' superficially'. All of the characters in the more recent movies have actual depth. But you can't convince fan boys of that when they've already decided they don't like something.

The god damned kids of the first movies have turned into mostly entitled and douchy fan boys of today. Good god, man. This isn't directed at you, but Star Wars is the most beloved bad series ever. FFS, the 'creator' of it was the worst director of it. It's always been a hodge podge of badness that was somehow good. Now that the movies are actually good, they're somehow bad.

[MasterShake]

Rey and Kylo have to follow up the entire baggage, both good and bad, of all of Star Wars and a fandom comparing nostalgia of childhood via their jaded adult eyes on new content.

That doesn't explain away the issues. However, I'll point to this - people were pissed that the parents of the new jedi weren't a certain way, but if they were the accusation would just be that it was copying an old plotline.

Nothing in the current timeline is ever going to be truly good enough. You have people whining that Luke, who was always a whiner, and a Jedi, who are the ultimate whiners, acted whiny in this movie.

Rogue One WAS a better movie, but it had an easy time in comparison because of it's spot on the timeline. That's the issue.

Here's the truth - Luke was always a shitty character. In under what, three months, he magically went from being a farmer to a Jedi killing badass with no real training, or explanation therein. He wanted to bang his sister, he whined constantly, and he was a liability until the end of the third movie.

He was 'deep' superficially'. All of the characters in the more recent movies have actual depth. But you can't convince fan boys of that when they've already decided they don't like something.

The god damned kids of the first movies have turned into mostly entitled and douchy fan boys of today. Good god, man. This isn't directed at you, but Star Wars is the most beloved bad series ever. FFS, the 'creator' of it was the worst director of it. It's always been a hodge podge of badness that was somehow good. Now that the movies are actually good, they're somehow bad.

Well I am not here to speak for all of Star Wars Fandom, and a big part of the fans do suck but that is my opinion. I never claimed Star Wars was a great movie, just something that I enjoyed and now I am starting to question the direction it is going in. I did and still un-ironically enjoy the prequels warts and all because those movies expanded the Universe and had a pretty good story with a political undertone that was very "Fall of the Roman Empire". And I personally don't hate the new episodic films but I think they lack a clear vision and that is becoming apparent as they move along. I said in my Episode VIII review that I liked the movie but I need to see how they follow through in IX to judge the series as a whole because right now The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi and kind of just beautiful messes.

I try not to look at this movies through the prism of nostalgia (like I said, I liked the Prequels despite growing up with the OT) but taken on their own like you said most Star Wars flicks are B-Grade Space Operas with brilliant special effects. So what you have left is visuals and character arcs and Star Wars "moments" to judge them on. I know for a fact if the new Star Wars films were just some generic Sci Fi movie they would just be considered ok movies, but having the Star Wars name and property associated with them makes them be judged differently, good or bad.

Rey and Kylo are fine and I loved how Rey almost took him back from the Dark Side in the last flick and I wish they would have dwelled on that a bit more but whatever. But then you have Finn who had a really interesting storyline going in the The Force Awakens and a great chance to redeem himself in The Last Jedi by sacrificing himself to take out the canon but instead we get some forced love story, a visit to a casino planet with no payoff, and a new character to try to flesh out in Rose Tico with one movie left.

I thought what they did with Luke was pretty interesting, and while not what I wanted it at least tried to subvert my expectations. I think Luke can still have a great end to his story in the next film. The thing that bothers me about the new movies is that they CAN be more than b-grade movies and they try to pretend they are but they fall over their own legacy like you said. And while I love Rogue One, they had a chance to really break new ground with the Star Wars Story movies and just experiment a bit but they keep playing it same with known characters or timelines. But what do I know, maybe Han Solo will actually be good.:lol:

Long story short, it's just not Star Wars fans that are shitting on everything. I'm not some gatekeeper of true fandom, I just know what I like and I think the newer films still have a chance to redeem themselves as a trilogy but taken on their own they have good and bad just like most movies so far. The problem is we are now fed entertainment in chunks. We can binge entire series, find most of our favorites streaming on demand, or even watch new movies illegally. We want to be entertained instantly and we want nothing to change as far as what we remember. Whether or not the new Star Wars flicks are good is a personal thing, but I will agree that fans of entertainment in general are spoiled. The worst part is people just can't seem to let go.

If I truly hated the new Star Wars I wouldn't keep bringing it up, I swear. I tend to just call it a wash and move on. The thing I hate is that people can criticize and bitch about things for DECADES after they come out (the Prequels spring to mind again!) and these are the same people that only want to destroy instead of create. I write and draw all the time because what I create is what I like. I wish some fans would try to create what they want to see instead of just consuming it en masse or shitting on things other people are trying to do so they can see how hard it is to bring a vision of something to life. Just because what you see isn't what you wanted to see doesn't mean you can do better. If you can, prove it.

[Northman]

Im not even a big SW geek but as Shakey kind of stated i like what i like. The first 3 SW movies were fun to me, movies 4-6 were ok and not as bad to me as other people think but 7 and 8 so far are terrible to me for a multitude of reasons that really have nothing to do with the other films. While im sure for a portion of fans there is that sense of elitism but i know that isnt where i am coming from because when it comes to movies i am pretty open minded and have seen quite a few stinkers as well as some hidden Gems. There are some people on this board who think that a lot of the Marvel movies are garbage which of course i think is ridiculous, but its simply a matter of taste.

[Poet]

North, you are most definitely not in the 'class' or 'group' of people that I am referencing.

[MasterShake]

Im not even a big SW geek but as Shakey kind of stated i like what i like. The first 3 SW movies were fun to me, movies 4-6 were ok and not as bad to me as other people think but 7 and 8 so far are terrible to me for a multitude of reasons that really have nothing to do with the other films. While im sure for a portion of fans there is that sense of elitism but i know that isnt where i am coming from because when it comes to movies i am pretty open minded and have seen quite a few stinkers as well as some hidden Gems. There are some people on this board who think that a lot of the Marvel movies are garbage which of course i think is ridiculous, but its simply a matter of taste.

Marvel is really strange to me. There are some movies I don’t care for from them but taken as a whole what they are doing is incredible.

[BroncoJoe]

Long story short,

I'm not sure you know the meaning of this...

:D

[MasterShake]

I'm not sure you know the meaning of this...

:D

Hey! Lots of people go on for a few paragraphs after saying that!

[Poet]

My bucket list now includes watching the original three SW films with Mastershake!

[ShaneFalco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49ZPa_XpiHI

[Poet]

It's a wonderful film.

[DenBronx]

https://www.flickeringmyth.com/2018/03/rumour-colin-trevorrow-fired-star-wars-episode-ix-due-disagreements-last-jedi/



“There were two key things Trevorrow wanted to be changed – and they were not minor”, claims the rumour. “These two things have been known for a while around Disney. Firstly, he wanted Luke to still be alive in 9. He strongly disagreed with killing Luke off in 8 when he had just been re-introduced. Luke and Leia were to be a pivotal part of his script, with Leia’s Force affinity revealed in a much more brother/sister way that was apparently going to be ‘beautiful and tragic’. Mark Hamill loved it. ‘We were on the same page,’ as he’s said about Trevorrow’s storyline. However, Kennedy and Johnson wanted Luke dead – period. Second, he wanted Snoke to live, as his back story was to be more discussed. Fisher dying scuttled his original plan for the Leia Force affinity reveal, of course. But he still needed Luke alive for the story he wanted to tell to end the trilogy – more of a Luke handing off the baton to Rey and a Luke ‘walking off into the sunset’ idea, in the last film – rather than Luke dying in 8. They refused. He argued. They fired him.”



Hard to argue against Colin Trevorrow on this one. Killing Luke off was about the dumbest thing they could of done. I feel like the majority of fans would of loved to see how much of a badass that he had become. Instead we got hot garbage.

Sorry to be a debbie downer but I wasn't happy with the movie. Still got love for Star War and I'm thrilled that Disney is cranking them out each year but ....damn...I hope 9 is going to be way better than the first 2.

[Poet]

Hard to argue against Colin Trevorrow on this one. Killing Luke off was about the dumbest thing they could of done. I feel like the majority of fans would of loved to see how much of a badass that he had become. Instead we got hot garbage.

Sorry to be a debbie downer but I wasn't happy with the movie. Still got love for Star War and I'm thrilled that Disney is cranking them out each year but ....damn...I hope 9 is going to be way better than the first 2.

They're trying to tell a New Star Wars movie. For new characters for a new generation of fans. You watched a man fallen apart reassemble himself for a final run and regain hope. He had a great arch.

SWtLJ is the best SW movie by far.

[ShaneFalco]

trying and failing

[DenBronx]

Yeah sorry King...we have to disagree on this one. It was a failed attempt from Disney. Luke shouldn't of even been in the movies then. He is one of the most powerful Jedis ever and they made him look weak and pathetic.

Don't get me started on that Asian chick....her character was so lame.

[Poet]

Yeah sorry King...we have to disagree on this one. It was a failed attempt from Disney. Luke shouldn't of even been in the movies then. He is one of the most powerful Jedis ever and they made him look weak and pathetic.

Don't get me started on that Asian chick....her character was so lame.

He was a broken down old man who failed at the next chapter in his life. That's an interesting story to me. If he wasn't in the movies, then people bitch. If he's super prominent in the movies and goes ham, then people bitch. When Mo said "different, not better," he was onto something. And weak and pathetic Jedi isn't anything new, either. Vader was on life support and got handled by his newbie son and an ancient as Sith. And Kenobi got killed by Vader.

The Jedi are powerful and very flawed. They're interesting because of that - not because they're the universal equivalent of Superman.

[Northman]

Jedi was terrible, so much so i couldnt even get all the way through the movie. That says something to me and it doesnt even matter that Luke died. Lol

[Shazam!]

Disney has wrecked Star Wars just as i knew they would and destroyed something that was beloved to me. Im so done.

[Poet]

You guys, you make me sad.

[DenBronx]

This movie makes me sad.

[Poet]

This movie makes me sad.

Another reason why it's a great movie!

[DenBronx]

Shhhhh no one tell King I muted him.

[ShaneFalco]

i heard Solo sucks.

[MOtorboat]

i heard Solo sucks.

I imagine your bias is in play. Stop watching Star Wars. For our sake.

[ShaneFalco]

I imagine your bias is in play. Stop watching Star Wars. For our sake.
you can imagine whatever you want.

i heard the actor cant play solo for shit. And the main characters of the film are the Falcon and Lando.

its whatever at this point.

They ruined Luke forever, they might as well ruin Solo next. Its only fair.

[MOtorboat]

you can imagine whatever you want.

i heard the actor cant play solo for shit. And the main characters of the film are the Falcon and Lando.

its whatever at this point.

They ruined Luke forever, they might as well ruin Solo next. Its only fair.

I’m sure it will be glorious to watch.

[ShaneFalco]

I’m sure it will be glorious to watch.

just like last jedi

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[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I’m taking my two sons (for free!) to see Solo on the 26th. I’m So excited!

[atwater27]

Apparently Lando is pansexual according to the huffington post. So we got that going for us.

[Poet]

Apparently Lando is pansexual according to the huffington post. So we got that going for us.

Let's get it popping?

[MasterShake]

Apparently Lando is pansexual according to the huffington post. So we got that going for us.

That just means he would hit anything for some loving, I fully expect that of the character. Men, women, droids, aliens... just like Captain Kirk!

http://www.nexusroute.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/trekmenageriept22.jpg

The thing I hate is diversity for the sake of it. The characters should fit into the story organically. Just because we never had a chubby asian girl in a Star Wars movie is NO EXCUSE for Rose in The Last Jedi. If Lando wants to bang everyone, that just adds to his character which was already hinted at. You saw the way he looked at Lobot. Pretty sure he had a remote control toy in that guy:

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[ShaneFalco]

sounds like they will do anything to turn Star wars into Social Justice Wars.

[sneakers]

Ryan Johnson f'd everything up with that flaming pile of shit of a movie.

[Poet]

sounds like they will do anything to turn Star wars into Social Justice Wars.

That was a complaint about the original movies. I know that it's scary for you when everything is represented by straight white guys, but FFS this is perfect capitalism: people want something more than just straight white people on the screen, and they will pay to see it. You, and everyone else, should probably feel a little dirty about that, but hey, it makes money.

Why do you hate the free market, Shane?

[atwater27]

That just means he would hit anything for some loving, I fully expect that of the character. Men, women, droids, aliens... just like Captain Kirk!
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I missed the episode where the good captain banged a gaylien.

[ShaneFalco]

That was a complaint about the original movies. I know that it's scary for you when everything is represented by straight white guys, but FFS this is perfect capitalism: people want something more than just straight white people on the screen, and they will pay to see it. You, and everyone else, should probably feel a little dirty about that, but hey, it makes money.

Why do you hate the free market, Shane?

kathleen kennedy and disney are not the free market. They are a SJWS wet dream.

[Poet]

kathleen kennedy and disney are not the free market. They are a SJWS wet dream.

The free market rewards their choices.

[MasterShake]

I missed the episode where the good captain banged a gaylien.

You think "Bones" is just a nickname? Seriously though, Star Trek was a pioneer of changing and challenging sexuality taboos. The kiss between Kirk and Uhura was the FIRST interracial kiss on TV and back then people had a problem with that, too. Hell some people still do. Star Trek was all about that kind of thing.

[MasterShake]

kathleen kennedy and disney are not the free market. They are a SJWS wet dream.

Vote with your wallet. Don't see the movie and don't even pirate it. If Solo bombs they will adjust the Star Wars flicks moving forward. I'm seeing it because I give all movies a chance, especially Star Wars. I am fully prepared to bitch about it, but only AFTER I see it.

[Poet]

SJW shell out the big bucks and pay to see diversity.

And let’s be honest, straight white people...space....straight white people...space...why are there so many straight white people in space? It’s just not logical. But people want to see themselves on the screen and SF shows us that it cuts both ways.

[ShaneFalco]

or you know, you could just hire the best actors and actresses instead of using diversity quotas so you can sell more ads in China.

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/wtgHzU4h92o9kgNLn471Rg--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/homerun/hello_giggles_454/73ad6c4cfbd6e048ca150b9ce4a5a917

[Poet]

You mean you don’t want a company to look out for it’s bottem line? Welcome to the business world - where everything is a commodity. It just so happens that all-white everything and all-straight everyone isn’t where the moneys at. Don’t worry though - it’ll barely be on screen and all those SJWs that you hate will be upset.

The irony is that a lot of these shows and movies and comics were progressive in nature. But because you look at the world through your lens you didn’t notice it. You lost this war on all fronts. The progressive invasion of your media was never an invasion, and you just cannot stand it. Muahahhahahahahahahahahahahahah

[atwater27]

You think "Bones" is just a nickname? Seriously though, Star Trek was a pioneer of changing and challenging sexuality taboos. The kiss between Kirk and Uhura was the FIRST interracial kiss on TV and back then people had a problem with that, too. Hell some people still do. Star Trek was all about that kind of thing.
Uhura is a female. Race is not equal to sexuality. There is no valid comparison of the civil rights era to the gay rights era, not in content, scale, violence, murder or science. Any comparison is an outright slap in the face to people of color.

[Poet]

It’s not a suffering Olympics and you can find plenty of oppression regarding the LGBTQ community.

[chazoe60]

Can we please get this thread back to the topic of how embarrassingly bad The Last Jedi was? It had nothing to do with the social justice wars or whatever the ****, it was just simply a shit movie with god awful putrid scenes that made me feel bad to watch. The Leia Poppins scene was the most cringe-worthy thing I had seen in a movie since Luke milked a sea creature, and shamefully both of those scenes happened in the same ridiculous movie. It was really bad.

The Last Jedi was the embodiment of all the fears I had when Disney bought the franchise. It was shockingly bad.

[Poet]

The SJW complaint is not an insignificant one. I think it deserves a vigorous debate!

[atwater27]

It’s not a suffering Olympics and you can find plenty of oppression regarding the LGBTQ community.
Please honestly tell me you don’t think that the Black struggle is even in the same universe as the LGBT struggle. Even a casual glance at the last 100 years of history would provide staggering evidence that there can be no intellectually honest comparison.

[Poet]

Again, it’s not weighing one plight against the other. And the conversation is actually validating the diversity inclusions in the content.

[atwater27]

Again, it’s not weighing one plight against the other. And the conversation is actually validating the diversity inclusions in the content.
Natural, organic diversity inclusions that further or enrich the story is one thing. Forced and awkward storylines and characters are another. I.e. the purple haired feminist icon making the toxically masculine Poe and Fin look like morons and traitors, the freeing of the poor wittle space horseys from the evil rich banker society were weak ass storylines that did nothing to further the Star Wars universe. But it did confirm the worst fears of Star Wars fans of what Disney would force down our throats. Good old ham handed Hollywood virtue signaling.

[Poet]

Natural, organic diversity inclusions that further or enrich the story is one thing. Forced and awkward storylines and characters are another. I.e. the purple haired feminist icon making the toxicically masculine Poe and Fin look like morons and traitors, the freeing of the poor wittle space horseys from the evil rich banker society were weak ass storylines that did nothing to further the Star Wars universe. But it did confirm the worst fears of Star Wars fans of what Disney would force down our throats. Good old ham handed Hollywood virtue signaling.

The horsey things was dumb but so was that entire storyarch because it amounted to nothing. But that arch didn't smack of SJW to me because the duo was shocked to realize that their 'side' was guilty of enriching war profiteering, too. That sort of 'reality check' to show that the culpability reminded me of something that my dad would have taught me.

I also took the purple lady not so much as a feminist or a critique on toxic masculinity so much as for a need of being tight-lipped, responsible, prudent, structured, etc. Now I do think that these movies are of a political bent, and I do think that Disney does pander to social justice and I think that they do because it's financially feasible and rewards it.

That's the real kicker to me - it's just easy money. For better or worse, right, wrong, in the middle, however you want to call it, people want to see themselves being represented. And Disney will do that for you, for the price of a movie ticket because it ensures to them that the theaters will pay the outrageous licensing fee to show the film, and that you might buy some merchandise down the road.

I like the concept of a more inclusive universe - but I'm not dumb enough to not see this for what it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07G23zMGa4g

[atwater27]

Fair enough. I will say one thing. I could see Lando nailing an alien or even a hot femme bot. But if the new solo movie has young Calrissian trying to lay some pipe on Han, you can count me out of any star wars movie going forward.

[Poet]

Fair enough. I will say one thing. I could see Lando nailing an alien or even a hot femme bot. But if the new solo movie has young Calrissian trying to lay some pipe on Han, you can count me out of any star wars movie going forward.

Hey, if it makes sense you'll be back. If Lando does it to con Solo or get one over on him, that would make sense.

[atwater27]

Hey, if it makes sense you'll be back. If Lando does it to con Solo or get one over on him, that would make sense.

It would not make sense even in the hallucinogenic caves of dagobah.

[Poet]

It would not make sense even in the hallucinogenic caves of dagobah.

Okay, to be fair, we would have to rely on Falco's expertise on that matter! Respect the experts, dammit!

[MasterShake]

Fair enough. I will say one thing. I could see Lando nailing an alien or even a hot femme bot. But if the new solo movie has young Calrissian trying to lay some pipe on Han, you can count me out of any star wars movie going forward.

If it is REALLY overt that Lando is trying torpedo Han's thermal exhaust vent, then I will agree with you. That would be retconning the character and his relationship with Han and undercut their friendship. My point was that having Lando be flirty with everyone was already kind of his nature even in Empire Strikes Back and it can be implied that maybe sometimes after a big party he is open to some loving of any kind. Having him wink and blow kisses at Han and lick his lips would be something else entirely. A charming and flirtatious nature is one thing, straight up trying to seduce Han is another!

[ShaneFalco]

The odd thing is, if disney wanted to actually have some animals rights thing going on.

They could show what happened to the Wookies. Hanhar the wookie, was in slavery for most of his life.

But naw, giant horse chihuahua racing.

[chazoe60]

The odd thing is, if disney wanted to actually have some animals rights thing going on.

They could show what happened to the Wookies. Hanhar the wookie, was in slavery for most of his life.

But naw, giant horse chihuahua racing.

In Empire Luke rides a Tauntaun to its demise in a bitter cold landscape then the poor animals carcass is abused to save Luke's life but somehow now we're supposed to feel sorry for racehorses? Just a ******* dumbass side plot that never needed to exist. **** Disney.

[MOtorboat]

The odd thing is, if disney wanted to actually have some animals rights thing going on.

They could show what happened to the Wookies. Hanhar the wookie, was in slavery for most of his life.

But naw, giant horse chihuahua racing.

It was a poor attempt at recreating the pod racing. I'll agree it was an unnecessary scene. But I could care less about that, I'm more interested in whether Benicio Del Toro's character was a waste of space and an attempt to get in a famous actor solely for the sake of having his name attached, or whether or not he becomes a central figure to the overall story arc in the third movie. His character also could, if they do it right, make for an awesome standalone which I'm sure you'll find a reason to hate.

[MasterShake]

It was a poor attempt at recreating the pod racing. I'll agree it was an unnecessary scene. But I could care less about that, I'm more interested in whether Benicio Del Toro's character was a waste of space and an attempt to get in a famous actor solely for the sake of having his name attached, or whether or not he becomes a central figure to the overall story arc in the third movie. His character also could, if they do it right, make for an awesome standalone which I'm sure you'll find a reason to hate.

That scene wishes it was as well choreographed as the Pod Race. At least the pod race served the story to show that Anakin had Jedi-like reflexes despite never being trained, and winning the Pod Race freed him from slavery and also got the part they needed to get off Tatooine. All of those things set in motion the events that would lead him to be Darth Vader.

The Casino Planet was part animal rights message and part commentary on the business of war and how the ultra wealthy made their money from both sides. It could have been handled better and with less exposition in what was already a movie that lacked focus on the only good story which was the Luke/Rey/Kylo arc.

[ShaneFalco]

It was a poor attempt at recreating the pod racing. I'll agree it was an unnecessary scene. But I could care less about that, I'm more interested in whether Benicio Del Toro's character was a waste of space and an attempt to get in a famous actor solely for the sake of having his name attached, or whether or not he becomes a central figure to the overall story arc in the third movie. His character also could, if they do it right, make for an awesome standalone which I'm sure you'll find a reason to hate.
oh man, i almost forgot how awful that part was.

To ruin an actor like him with such a terrible and pointless character

[Poet]

if you think a bad role can 'ruin' an actor then Tom Hanks, Brando, Travolta, Jackson etc. are all ruined. Stop trolling, SF.

[Poet]

There is no place for me as a SW fan. I must leave you now, and watch Battlestar Galatica. :D

[BroncoJoe]

There is no place for me as a SW fan. I must leave you now, and watch Battlestar Galatica. :D

You should start with the original Star Trek. You need a break-in period. Or just a period. Not sure which...

:D

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

There is no place for me as a SW fan. I must leave you now, and watch Battlestar Galatica. :D

I prefer to stick to better sci fi shows with deep plots and exceptional character development, shows like Buck Rogers.

[Poet]

I prefer to stick to better sci fi shows with deep plots and exceptional character development, shows like Buck Rogers.
Why are you soOooooOo stuuuUuuuuUUuUUpid?

[ShaneFalco]

so Solo is falling hard at Box office. looks like trashing all those older SW fans didnt work out so well.

Most people i have talked to, said they refuse to see it. As a referendum on the TLJ. They are done with the franchise.

Which is what i thought what would happen, when you spit in your fanbases face, call them sexist, racist, etc. Just because they dont believe what you believe politically.

Disney really screwed up.

[Poet]

You live in a crazy world, man.

[GEM]

It was a poor attempt at recreating the pod racing. I'll agree it was an unnecessary scene. But I could care less about that, I'm more interested in whether Benicio Del Toro's character was a waste of space and an attempt to get in a famous actor solely for the sake of having his name attached, or whether or not he becomes a central figure to the overall story arc in the third movie. His character also could, if they do it right, make for an awesome standalone which I'm sure you'll find a reason to hate.

That one really pissed me off. I truly got excited when I saw that he was going to be in it as I adore Benicio. Then to get what he was...******* stuttering blah ******* blah! Disappointed.

[GEM]

Solo was friggen awesome! Absolutely loved it. It took all the awesome about Han Solo and made it even more awesome. Seriously old fan bois need to get a grip.

The pansexual thing was like 3 min of the whole 2.25 hour movie. And it wasn't him making goo goo eyes at Han or screwing a droid. FFS people are so damn dramatic.

[Poet]

Solo was friggen awesome! Absolutely loved it. It took all the awesome about Han Solo and made it even more awesome. Seriously old fan bois need to get a grip.

The pansexual thing was like 3 min of the whole 2.25 hour movie. And it wasn't him making goo goo eyes at Han or screwing a droid. FFS people are so damn dramatic.

The inclusion of anything other than straight white men and women sans one or two characters is apparently telling SW fans that they're bigots.

Or something.

It couldn't be that there's been a steady stream of SW movies.

[GEM]

The inclusion of anything other than straight white men and women sans one or two characters is apparently telling SW fans that they're bigots.

Or something.

It couldn't be that there's been a steady stream of SW movies.

Yes, heaven forbid they have Holdo, a female, put the poor pilot in his place for being over the top and going with first impulse instead of letting her lead which is what she was put in charge of. Yes...that just has to be feminism, that has to be tptb emasculating a man.

On the other hand it's perfectly ok to strut Carrie Fisher around in a metal bikini for hours at a time with her entire side body showing, of which Fischer said was excruciatingly uncomfortable due to the metal. Then put her in the movie on a leash as nothing more than the sexual slave to Jabba and the men in the club watching her.

Yes, heaven forbid. How can you be upset about the first without having been upset about the other.....oh, because she was soooooo hot :drool:

[ShaneFalco]

Or it could have been when the head of lucasfilm said she doesnt want me as a fan.

Thanks for sparing me.

I am just a "Fly boy" like poe dameron.

Keep spinning the wheels tho, as half the fanbase rejects the franchise.

[ShaneFalco]

People go to films to have fun and be entertained.

not to be lectured

[Poet]

Man, you are soft. But no, you're not a fly boy because you're not a reckless pilot who doesn't understand logistics, strategy, and act impulsively...mostly because you're not that cool.

The last several films have made buckets of money and sold tons of merchandise.

So yeah, you can pretend that half the fan base is rejecting the movie - I'll take the bet that Disney continues to earn a lot of money. This isn't the Star Wars fan Tea Party movement, SF. But pretending you're being victimized and then romanticizing some phantom menace (Boy, I'm good) at Disney is being combated is probably fun.

[Poet]

People go to films to have fun and be entertained.

not to be lectured

You live in a fake world where inclusion is some kind of rejection of you. Dudes who **** people who aren't just dudes, and a cautious acting military leader who rejects impulsiveness isn't lecturing you.

Grow as a person.

[ShaneFalco]

i am just not dumb enough to shell out 30 bucks to take a Social Justice class for 2 hrs.

Sorry

[Poet]

When you see enemies everywhere, it's more than your eyes that are at issue, sir.

[ShaneFalco]

As 'Solo: A Star Wars Story' Flops, Are Movies About White Men Box Office Poison?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2018/05/29/as-solo-a-star-wars-story-flops-are-movies-about-white-men-box-office-poison/#4025730f5d49

[ShaneFalco]

'Solo' is Star Wars’ toothless confrontation of robot rights
Bringing up equal rights isn’t enough.

https://www.engadget.com/2018/05/29/solo-star-wars-droid-rights/

[ShaneFalco]

As 'Solo: A Star Wars Story' Flops, Are Movies About White Men Box Office Poison?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2018/05/29/as-solo-a-star-wars-story-flops-are-movies-about-white-men-box-office-poison/#4025730f5d49


'Solo' is Star Wars’ toothless confrontation of robot rights
Bringing up equal rights isn’t enough.

https://www.engadget.com/2018/05/29/solo-star-wars-droid-rights/
So why when i google "Solo". Are the first two stories get about white men and robot rights?

I thought this was just about a sci universe? to be entertained?

[ShaneFalco]

even weirder, when i search for articles about Dead pool 2.

Nothing political even comes up. A film built on being controversial.

Strange. Must just be me seeing political enemies everywhere when it comes to Star Wars. Couldnt be something else....

[Poet]

You mean how one franchise picks up different people and then a portion of the populace goes nuts? You mean it might be that people like you are so very soft and so very fragile that any possible perceived slight could cause this reaction?

Case in point - Lando is said to be pansexual and you went ham. Before the script was released or anyone else saw it.

Stop tilting at windmills.

[ShaneFalco]

https://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Holdo-Featured-031418.jpg

[ShaneFalco]

i honestly feel bad for Solo as a standalone film. Howard is a good director.

Its now just a complete referendum on the trash of Kathleen Kennedy and The Last Jedi. Thats how toxic that last film was.

[ShaneFalco]

You mean how one franchise picks up different people and then a portion of the populace goes nuts? You mean it might be that people like you are so very soft and so very fragile that any possible perceived slight could cause this reaction?

Case in point - Lando is said to be pansexual and you went ham. Before the script was released or anyone else saw it.

Stop tilting at windmills.
You were saying something about the free market a few pages ago king.

Looks like it has spoken

[Poet]

I still love you, buddy. I just wish you were self-aware.

[Poet]

You were saying something about the free market a few pages ago king.

Looks like it has spoken

Let's count the tally of wins and losses for Disney.

[ShaneFalco]

I still love you, buddy. I just wish you were self-aware.

same, i just wish you would stop pretending these themes dont exist. And pretending people are bad for reacting to what is put in front of their face.

Solo prolly is awesome, but the brand is now toxic.

[chazoe60]

I didn't even notice the pansexual thing in Solo? What part was that? Oh and what the **** is a pansexual? I'm pretty sure shane is a potsexual, is that the opposite of a pansexual or are they similar?

[Poet]

What themes? That in the galaxy, when it comes to humanoids, there are more than just white people who bang the opposite sex?

You just told me that you felt badly because you were being called a fly boy by a feminist. What am I supposed to do with that? Somehow you're that fly boy? That fly boy represents your politics? Please, tell me how much money and time that fly boy has spent contributing to your libertarian viewpoint in the SW universe? And no, fighting oppression of a at least quasi-sovereign state isn't a libertarian only thing. For the love of god, in five years, if you were to look back at this thread, I promise you that you will be ashamed of yourself.

**** it, Falco. Let's have a moment of unity! You and me - you, the libertarian. Me, the progressive. Us...the flyboys. What da ya say, Falco? You wanna be a fly boy with me?

[Poet]

I didn't even notice the pansexual thing in Solo? What part was that? Oh and what the **** is a pansexual? I'm pretty sure shane is a potsexual, is that the opposite of a pansexual or are they similar?

This...this post delivers.

[GEM]

I didn't even notice the pansexual thing in Solo? What part was that? Oh and what the **** is a pansexual? I'm pretty sure shane is a potsexual, is that the opposite of a pansexual or are they similar?

That's how much it didn't happen!

Lando having feelings for his droid.

[GEM]

I'm a feminist? :laugh: **** no, I'm not. But if you're going to be pissy about one, then how can you not be pissy about the other? It's ok when it's against a woman, but not against a man?

[GEM]

same, i just wish you would stop pretending these themes dont exist. And pretending people are bad for reacting to what is put in front of their face.

Solo prolly is awesome, but the brand is now toxic.

Then don't ******* watch it. Stick your head up the original 3's ass and quit commenting if you hate it so much. :laugh:

That or let the hate flow through you. Right down between the legs where some feminist bitch has you by the scrotum.

[ShaneFalco]

why would i quit commenting in my own thread?

I was proved right about Last Jedi being so awful, that a large part of the fanbase is gone.

[MOtorboat]

Someone is worried about how they portray a fictional robot in a fictional space western and are trying to use that as an allegory for robot rights?

Lol.

Turn your brain (especially the political part) off for two hours and just watch the damn thing. Good grief.

[ShaneFalco]

Cringe.

a star wars story.

[GEM]

why would i quit commenting in my own thread?

I was proved right about Last Jedi being so awful, that a large part of the fanbase is gone.

And there is a whole new fanbase created. Tooooodalooooo muddafukka.

12248

[GEM]

Cringe.

a star wars story.

DksSPZTZES0

[ShaneFalco]

Box Office: ‘Solo: A Star Wars Story’ Plummets to $29 Million Second Weekend


https://www.yahoo.com/movies/box-office-solo-star-wars-150247663.html

[GEM]

:cheer2:

[ShaneFalco]

:cheer2:

my original review stands the test of time.



Apologies if you thought this was Looper or Breaking Bad or any other original story here. Lucasfilm was entrusted with a rich story they only needed to broaden and nurture. Instead they mocked it's legacy core character and demystified the magic.

And the backlash has only just begun.

its a 3 hour snuff film where Mickey mouse rapes and murders Luke Skywalker and 40 years of storytelling. Apparently all the diversity and women don't make up for the abysmal storyline, ludicrous humour and bad acting. who would of thought?

The Star Wars films were always supposed to be centered around the Skywalker family and yet Disney has decided to kill any and all connections with the Skywalkers.

when luke drank that ******* milk outta that titty.

I thought i was watching Space Balls.

Hard to put into words how they completely desecrated the Star Wars movie universe and almost insane to imagine how they were able to get away with it

The boy at the end...?? You have the Force and you have the Force and you have the Force and everybody has the Force!!

**** this ****. They clearly want to push out the old fans. So ill oblige. Star Wars my favorite franchise of all time. Its over.

You couldnt pay me to watch another disney star wars film after this.

Leia ****ing mary poppins bull****.

[MasterShake]

my original review stands the test of time.

Are you ever going to see Solo? Or did you? Haven't read back through a few pages. It really is the direction Disney should've went with the episodic films. Not as derivative as The Force Awakens, and surprising without being subversive. I really hate that a decent (and sometimes great) Star Wars flick is paying for Rian Johnson's mistakes. It will be On Demand by the end of July I bet, it's worth at least one view.

[GEM]

Why is Star Wars fandom the most disgusting pack? Just read how Daisy Ridley had to delete her social media presence and actually sought counseling because of fans. Now Kelly Marie Tran (Rose) had to do the same thing. I'm actually disgusted with that side of this new obsession.

[GEM]

Are you ever going to see Solo? Or did you? Haven't read back through a few pages. It really is the direction Disney should've went with the episodic films. Not as derivative as The Force Awakens, and surprising without being subversive. I really hate that a decent (and sometimes great) Star Wars flick is paying for Rian Johnson's mistakes. It will be On Demand by the end of July I bet, it's worth at least one view.

No, he didn't. He just like to shit all over every ******* Star Wars thread here because we obviously haven't figured out how much he hates it.

[GEM]

my original review stands the test of time.

No one cared about your take when you wrote it and no one cares about it now. You didn't bother seeing the movie, so shut up about what you have no idea about.

They can't push you out, you haven't shut up about it in 3 years.

And your line about you have the force, and you have the force and you have the force....funny, there was a Jedi council with what looked to be 6-8 jedi's and the Rule 66 scenes showed probably the same in under Council level Jedi's murdered. So there is a history of quite a few having the force. You have no legs to stand on there, weak, weak, weak.

[Hawgdriver]

No, he didn't. He just like to shit all over every ******* Star Wars thread here because we obviously haven't figured out how much he hates it.

I used Falco and GEM as inspiration for my stand up spiel. Joke needs work, but you can listen in Random thoughts thread, I have a link. It's the first 'joke' (don't expect to laugh).

[chazoe60]

Why is Star Wars fandom the most disgusting pack? Just read how Daisy Ridley had to delete her social media presence and actually sought counseling because of fans. Now Kelly Marie Tran (Rose) had to do the same thing. I'm actually disgusted with that side of this new obsession.
Rey is far and away the best part of VII and VIII. Daisy Ridley has been excellent in that role.

Rose is the worst character since Jar-Jar Binks and might even be worse depending on what they do with IX, but that is not the actresses fault. People are asses.

[MasterShake]

Rey is far and away the best part of VII and VIII. Daisy Ridley has been excellent in that role.

Rose is the worst character since Jar-Jar Binks and might even be worse depending on what they do with IX, but that is not the actresses fault. People are asses.

Jake Lloyd is a mess to due to the "fans".

[Poet]

I never thought I’d say this, but Chazoe is the level-headed critic.

[ShaneFalco]

Why is Star Wars fandom the most disgusting pack? Just read how Daisy Ridley had to delete her social media presence and actually sought counseling because of fans. Now Kelly Marie Tran (Rose) had to do the same thing. I'm actually disgusted with that side of this new obsession.

good news. I can only hope Rose decides to not "act" in the third movie too.

[ShaneFalco]

Are you ever going to see Solo? Or did you? Haven't read back through a few pages. It really is the direction Disney should've went with the episodic films. Not as derivative as The Force Awakens, and surprising without being subversive. I really hate that a decent (and sometimes great) Star Wars flick is paying for Rian Johnson's mistakes. It will be On Demand by the end of July I bet, it's worth at least one view.

i may see it for free when it comes out. And i am sure it is better, as Howard is a pretty good director. Id like to see his vision in / of Star Wars universe.

But i wont pay another dime that goes into Disneys pocket while Kathleen Kennedy is still in charge.

They basically said they didnt want me as a fan, so i obliged. As well as half the fanbase who are just as disgusted with Disney as me.

[ShaneFalco]

No one cared about your take when you wrote it and no one cares about it now. You didn't bother seeing the movie, so shut up about what you have no idea about.

They can't push you out, you haven't shut up about it in 3 years.

And your line about you have the force, and you have the force and you have the force....funny, there was a Jedi council with what looked to be 6-8 jedi's and the Rule 66 scenes showed probably the same in under Council level Jedi's murdered. So there is a history of quite a few having the force. You have no legs to stand on there, weak, weak, weak.

you want to go after me, a guy who supported the films for decades, bought the games, etc etc. Because i no longer support a franchise that disrespected the fans like me. Thats fine.

Yes i did see the film. And it was so awful, that people refuse to go see Solo now. Thats how toxic and terrible the TLJ is.

Everything i posted about the film has been validated. And then some.

[GEM]

I could give 2 shits if you watch another star wars movie the rest of your life. I get sick of you spamming every star wars thread on this board, but you do that with everything, not sure why it surprises me. Don't see it, don't see any of it. You hate it, got it. Shut up about it already. Every thread doesn't have to turn into poor ******* Shane, his Luke got disrespected so no one else can enjoy talking like adults about the shit. Grow up. Quit acting like a ******* 2 year old who got his toy taken away. Go play with your ******* originals and leave the new stuff to others who actually enjoyed all of them. You and fan bois like you aren't slowing down the train. New fans have been created that take your place every day.

[ShaneFalco]

I could give 2 shits if you watch another star wars movie the rest of your life. I get sick of you spamming every star wars thread on this board, but you do that with everything, not sure why it surprises me. Don't see it, don't see any of it. You hate it, got it. Shut up about it already. Every thread doesn't have to turn into poor ******* Shane, his Luke got disrespected so no one else can enjoy talking like adults about the shit. Grow up. Quit acting like a ******* 2 year old who got his toy taken away. Go play with your ******* originals and leave the new stuff to others who actually enjoyed all of them. You and fan bois like you aren't slowing down the train. New fans have been created that take your place every day.

first of all this is my ******* thread. get over it.

2nd of all, you don't want people criticizing a movie, don't click on the thread and read the criticism.

3rd. You are acting far more immature coming into a thread about criticism of the recent star war movies, and getting upset at people criticizing it. Half your comments are about "oh the old star wars fanbase making fun of rose instagram account, new fans are so much better, they fart rose colored rainbows and praise shitty actors and writing".

you want to rage at people because they didnt like the shit you actually thought was good.

not my fault.

[GEM]

first of all this is my ******* thread. get over it.

2nd of all, you don't want people criticizing a movie, don't click on the thread and read the criticism.

3rd. You are acting far more immature coming into a thread about criticism of the recent star war movies, and getting upset at people criticizing it. Half your comments are about "oh the old star wars fanbase making fun of rose instagram account". give me a break.

I don't give a shit if you criticize a movie, i just said that. Can you read?

Your spamming bs is my issue. Should I say that slower for you?

It's not the rose instagram, it's a real ******* person who has received death threats over a ******* movie. Just you calling out the rose instagram shows you're one of them.

[ShaneFalco]

I don't give a shit if you criticize a movie, i just said that. Can you read?

Your spamming bs is my issue. Should I say that slower for you?

It's not the rose instagram, it's a real ******* person who has received death threats over a ******* movie. Just you calling out the rose instagram shows you're one of them.

You say that, but here you are, in the thread i made, getting mad over criticism.

getting mad at people you call the "old fans" and loving that we are "being replaced by new ones".

Looks like those new ones, dont go to the movies to see the film. So whats the difference?

[GEM]

You say that, but here you are, in the thread i made, getting mad over criticism.

I didn't say it slow enough.

Spamming every thread.

We can't have an in depth conversation about details of anything without 5 one liner or gif posts from you about your hate for all things star wars. It offends you if anyone wants to talk seriously about it because you hate it so you have to over power the thread with bs. We couldn't even talk about solo and you hadn't even seen it.

[GEM]

And now I've wasted 20 minutes of my life on something that isn't worth 1 minute of it, so have at it. Bitch to your hearts content.

[ShaneFalco]

anyways back to "spamming" my own thread about the criticism of disneys star wars.

Disney Will Lose At Least $50 Million On Solo: A Star Wars Story

http://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/solo-star-wars-story-tracking-towards-loss-least-50m/

[ShaneFalco]

I didn't say it slow enough.

Spamming every thread.

We can't have an in depth conversation about details of anything without 5 one liner or gif posts from you about your hate for all things star wars. It offends you if anyone wants to talk seriously about it because you hate it so you have to over power the thread with bs. We couldn't even talk about solo and you hadn't even seen it.

sorry if you feel that way, and i actually used to love star wars. If you want to have a serious discussion about Solo, make a thread about it. I wont post in it.

[MOtorboat]

https://twitter.com/nicholasjlevi/status/1003766882497892355?s=21

A lot of pieces of shit out there nowadays.

[MasterShake]

https://twitter.com/nicholasjlevi/status/1003766882497892355?s=21

A lot of pieces of shit out there nowadays.

First of all I would like to thank Shane for keeping his criticisms in this thread lately, I come in here to see the other side of the argument and keep my finger on the pulse.

Second, I am sick of the vocal minority of Star Wars fans being labeled as indicative of the greater fan-base as a whole.

These fans are in every fan-base. They feel like they are gatekeepers of some mystical truth and god forbid if you go against what is supposed to happen in their minds. When you tie up your personality in pop-culture, sports, or whatever instead of cultivating your own it is very easy to feel personally offended when suddenly the thing you love changes or takes on a new identity. I have lived through the Ewok backlash, the Special Edition furor, the George Lucas "raped my childhood" crowd, the prequel-bashers, and now this. This is nothing new, just a continuation of people taking something that is supposed to be an escape or a hobby and making it their lives.

I have three display cases full of Star Wars stuff (most recently an awesome young Lando figure from the new Solo flick) to remind me of the good things about the movies I like. I don't have a Rose figure, or Supreme Leader Snoke bubble bath, but I also have nothing against the things I don't think work. I appreciate the risks The Last Jedi took, even though many of the ideas didn't stick. In the end Star Wars is a small part of who I am, but the minute I make it all about me and I lash out when it doesn't line up with what I define it to be I hope someone calls me out because I honestly think that is a symptom of much bigger personal problems. The reason? Star Wars or any thing someone likes is a different experience for everyone and I am not the keeper of truth on what those reasons are.

I have a friend who's 5 year old daughter dresses up like Rey for the last two Halloweens and any chance she gets. I have a father who doesn't know the difference between the First Order and The Empire but who still comes to the new movies with me and my son because he remembers taking me when I was younger. I have a wife who doesn't care for Star Wars but allows me to take up a good chunk of space in our home because she knows what a geek I am about this and the Broncos and it makes me happy. And last but not least, I have a son who sees this all as one big story and absorbs what he likes and dismisses what he doesn't.

If all Star Wars does right now is make you angry, I truly feel bad for you. At their heart they were never meant to be taken this seriously and are just fun modern myths. This criticism isn't aimed at anyone in this thread or Shane in particular, just my musings as a fan that remembers going to the drive in to see the originals and knowing that I can never capture that feeling again but I can appreciate it in those that are having it now.

[GEM]

First of all I would like to thank Shane for keeping his criticisms in this thread lately, I come in here to see the other side of the argument and keep my finger on the pulse.

Second, I am sick of the vocal minority of Star Wars fans being labeled as indicative of the greater fan-base as a whole.

These fans are in every fan-base. They feel like they are gatekeepers of some mystical truth and god forbid if you go against what is supposed to happen in their minds. When you tie up your personality in pop-culture, sports, or whatever instead of cultivating your own it is very easy to feel personally offended when suddenly the thing you love changes or takes on a new identity. I have lived through the Ewok backlash, the Special Edition furor, the George Lucas "raped my childhood" crowd, the prequel-bashers, and now this. This is nothing new, just a continuation of people taking something that is supposed to be an escape or a hobby and making it their lives.

I have three display cases full of Star Wars stuff (most recently an awesome young Lando figure from the new Solo flick) to remind me of the good things about the movies I like. I don't have a Rose figure, or Supreme Leader Snoke bubble bath, but I also have nothing against the things I don't think work. I appreciate the risks The Last Jedi took, even though many of the ideas didn't stick. In the end Star Wars is a small part of who I am, but the minute I make it all about me and I lash out when it doesn't line up with what I define it to be I hope someone calls me out because I honestly think that is a symptom of much bigger personal problems. The reason? Star Wars or any thing someone likes is a different experience for everyone and I am not the keeper of truth on what those reasons are.

I have a friend who's 5 year old daughter dresses up like Rey for the last two Halloweens and any chance she gets. I have a father who doesn't know the difference between the First Order and The Empire but who still comes to the new movies with me and my son because he remembers taking me when I was younger. I have a wife who doesn't care for Star Wars but allows me to take up a good chunk of space in our home because she knows what a geek I am about this and the Broncos and it makes me happy. And last but not least, I have a son who sees this all as one big story and absorbs what he likes and dismisses what he doesn't.

If all Star Wars does right now is make you angry, I truly feel bad for you. At their heart they were never meant to be taken this seriously and are just fun modern myths. This criticism isn't aimed at anyone in this thread or Shane in particular, just my musings as a fan that remembers going to the drive in to see the originals and knowing that I can never capture that feeling again but I can appreciate it in those that are having it now.


Just to touch on your newest addition...there are some pretty cool young Lando items out there now. Loved him! :D

[MasterShake]

Just to touch on your newest addition...there are some pretty cool young Lando items out there now. Loved him! :D

Yup! This is the one I picked up. Love the eyebrow raise. Childish Gambino = Childish Landino

https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/5b32fb5a-a250-4bb1-98b5-72c37b79687c_1.68cb358be328517d28513a382f72dbf6.jp eg?odnHeight=450&odnWidth=450&odnBg=FFFFFF

[GEM]

12274

This is probably my next purchase.

[GEM]

Yup! This is the one I picked up. Love the eyebrow raise. Childish Gambino = Childish Landino

https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/5b32fb5a-a250-4bb1-98b5-72c37b79687c_1.68cb358be328517d28513a382f72dbf6.jp eg?odnHeight=450&odnWidth=450&odnBg=FFFFFF


He was such a good choice for Lando. He just got the character completely.

[MasterShake]

He was such a good choice for Lando. He just got the character completely.

I loved the running jokes about his capes.

[Hawgdriver]

I really want to see this movie now. Maybe Last Jedi too. Because I like how much it's becoming accessible to not-mes. I like inclusivity. Big parties are fun parties. I bet I'll hate TLJ but maybe not.

[GEM]

I loved the running jokes about his capes.

Right!!! Who would have thought the Falcon had a cape room! :lol:

[Poet]

I really want to see this movie now. Maybe Last Jedi too. Because I like how much it's becoming accessible to not-mes. I like inclusivity. Big parties are fun parties. I bet I'll hate TLJ but maybe not.

It is a movie where you truly decide if you’re going to like it or not.

[ShaneFalco]

First of all I would like to thank Shane for keeping his criticisms in this thread lately, I come in here to see the other side of the argument and keep my finger on the pulse.

Second, I am sick of the vocal minority of Star Wars fans being labeled as indicative of the greater fan-base as a whole.

These fans are in every fan-base. They feel like they are gatekeepers of some mystical truth and god forbid if you go against what is supposed to happen in their minds. When you tie up your personality in pop-culture, sports, or whatever instead of cultivating your own it is very easy to feel personally offended when suddenly the thing you love changes or takes on a new identity. I have lived through the Ewok backlash, the Special Edition furor, the George Lucas "raped my childhood" crowd, the prequel-bashers, and now this. This is nothing new, just a continuation of people taking something that is supposed to be an escape or a hobby and making it their lives.

I have three display cases full of Star Wars stuff (most recently an awesome young Lando figure from the new Solo flick) to remind me of the good things about the movies I like. I don't have a Rose figure, or Supreme Leader Snoke bubble bath, but I also have nothing against the things I don't think work. I appreciate the risks The Last Jedi took, even though many of the ideas didn't stick. In the end Star Wars is a small part of who I am, but the minute I make it all about me and I lash out when it doesn't line up with what I define it to be I hope someone calls me out because I honestly think that is a symptom of much bigger personal problems. The reason? Star Wars or any thing someone likes is a different experience for everyone and I am not the keeper of truth on what those reasons are.

I have a friend who's 5 year old daughter dresses up like Rey for the last two Halloweens and any chance she gets. I have a father who doesn't know the difference between the First Order and The Empire but who still comes to the new movies with me and my son because he remembers taking me when I was younger. I have a wife who doesn't care for Star Wars but allows me to take up a good chunk of space in our home because she knows what a geek I am about this and the Broncos and it makes me happy. And last but not least, I have a son who sees this all as one big story and absorbs what he likes and dismisses what he doesn't.

If all Star Wars does right now is make you angry, I truly feel bad for you. At their heart they were never meant to be taken this seriously and are just fun modern myths. This criticism isn't aimed at anyone in this thread or Shane in particular, just my musings as a fan that remembers going to the drive in to see the originals and knowing that I can never capture that feeling again but I can appreciate it in those that are having it now.

well said. i get that is apart of star wars. i remember the prequel backlash. But to me, that was just a difference of opinion. Not around the whole universe itself.

i get you said it isnt directed at me, but let me clarify my stance.....i dont hate star wars, it doesnt make me angry.

Disney does tho. Disney has changed the rules, and interjected political agendas into a film that never really had an agenda other then "republic vs empire, dark vs light".

They also seem to be fine just making a new death star every film, or new star destroyer, and just making it "bigger badder newer". Which in reality, is just lazy as ****. It becomes an Independence day sequel at that point. Built on disaster CGI porn.

Weaponizing hyperspace, makes every single death star fight in previous films, pretty much worthless, when all they had to do was fly an xwing in hyperspace at the deathstar.

This destruction of the previous elements in films and rewriting the script with pure laziness and shitty writing, and refusal to care for what was given to them in previous films..... is what bothers me most.

I feel disneys message for star wars is "we have our agenda, we dont care about what this story was, our agenda reigns supreme, shut up and buy our star wars junk"

[atwater27]

Why is Star Wars fandom the most disgusting pack? Just read how Daisy Ridley had to delete her social media presence and actually sought counseling because of fans. Now Kelly Marie Tran (Rose) had to do the same thing. I'm actually disgusted with that side of this new obsession.
Just pathetic and terrible. And some of these jackasses that pride themselves on how clever and all knowing they are can’t seperate a character from an actor that had nothing to do with the writing.

[MasterShake]

well said. i get that is apart of star wars. i remember the prequel backlash. But to me, that was just a difference of opinion. Not around the whole universe itself.

i get you said it isnt directed at me, but let me clarify my stance.....i dont hate star wars, it doesnt make me angry.

Disney does tho. Disney has changed the rules, and interjected political agendas into a film that never really had an agenda other then "republic vs empire, dark vs light".

They also seem to be fine just making a new death star every film, or new star destroyer, and just making it "bigger badder newer". Which in reality, is just lazy as ****. It becomes an Independence day sequel at that point. Built on disaster CGI porn.

Weaponizing hyperspace, makes every single death star fight in previous films, pretty much worthless, when all they had to do was fly an xwing in hyperspace at the deathstar.

This destruction of the previous elements in films and rewriting the script with pure laziness and shitty writing, and refusal to care for what was given to them in previous films..... is what bothers me most.

I feel disneys message for star wars is "we have our agenda, we dont care about what this story was, our agenda reigns supreme, shut up and buy our star wars junk"

I think after the recent backlash that plan may change. Hopefully JJ can right the ship and the other movies will take the legacy more seriously.

[ShaneFalco]

I think after the recent backlash that plan may change. Hopefully JJ can right the ship and the other movies will take the legacy more seriously.

i think he could. I actually liked the Force Awakens.

[ShaneFalco]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/apos-star-wars-apos-spin-192400219.html


'Star Wars' Spin-Offs Reportedly On Hold Due to 'Solo' Flopping


Fire Kathleen Kennedy, end the SJW nonsense, ill see the next one

[GEM]

qJlbPXZEpRE

I died laughing!

[Freyaka]

I have faith in jj. Every series he takes part in does well. I love his mission impossible movies. The bad robot team make quality stuff.

I've been a fan since lost even if lost got weird at the end.

[Poet]

i think he could. I actually liked the Force Awakens.

That movie was fun af.

[Freyaka]

That movie was fun af.

I liked both FA and TLJ. I can understand some of the hate that TLJ gets, but the hate for FA was asinine....I loved that movie.

[Poet]

I liked both FA and TLJ. I can understand some of the hate that TLJ gets, but the hate for FA was asinine....I loved that movie.

FA was a classic movie and set up the plot in a way where they could anything. FA was great in that sense.

Meh. I ******* love these new movies.

[chazoe60]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/apos-star-wars-apos-spin-192400219.html



Fire Kathleen Kennedy, end the SJW nonsense, ill see the next one

That's too bad because the spinoff are infinitely better than the main saga stories have been. Rogue One was amazing.

[ShaneFalco]

Hamill: Playing jaded Skywalker was 'tough

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/hamill-playing-jaded-skywalker-tough-093914966.html

Speaking at the Saturn Awards in California, actor Mark Hamill says playing a jaded, world-weary Luke Skywalker in "The Last Jedi" was tough as he had always been "the most idealistic character." (June 28)

[ShaneFalco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=18&v=_6eAcFOSOY0

[MasterShake]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=18&v=_6eAcFOSOY0

Pretty close, but I wish Luke was more like Snake and just lit up a cigarette instead of dying.