Compensatory Picks Announced

[Ziggy]

Broncos get a third round pick...... still looking for the final list.


The Cardinals (97th overall), Texans (98th), Broncos (99th), and Bengals (100th) picked up third round picks, after offseasons when they were picked apart.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/02/23/nfl-announces-compensatory-picks/

edit: Looks like that's our only compensatory pick this year. At least we got a third.

[G_Money]

https://twitter.com/NickiJhabvala/status/967167505293762560

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWwRtrAU8AA7KJM.jpg

Denver had better take advantage of having 6 of the first 105 picks. John can't keep blowing the early round talent and trying to make it up late. This has the chance to be a huge restock in a decent draft, and if Denver doesn't come out of this with a 2006-type draft it will be a disappointment.

[G_Money]

Apparently she had the post-3rd-round picks slightly wrong. Here's the updated list (but my point still stands: too many useful picks to blow it this year):

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWwTTtBVMAAvg02.jpg

[Poet]

Those picks can be traded now, right?

[dogfish]

Those picks can be traded now, right?

yes. . . and G is most certainly right-- we can't afford to blow it again, it will set the franchise back in a major way. . . this roster is still in a state of post super bowl affliction. . . aging, with a bloated salary cap, and a serious dearth of inexpensive young talent. . . we're already paying for the sins of previous poor drafts. . . we can and likely will trim some cap space this off-season, but most potential cuts will also leave holes that need filled-- most of which don't have especially promising replacements on hand. . . we can only fill so many holes in FA with competent talent. . . especially if we have to throw huge money at cousins to fill the QB spot. . .

i'd still rather give him 28 million a year than pay 18 a year for aj mccarron and his 4 starts-- or sam bradford, and the 4 more starts he probably has left. . . even if we get the QB figured out, though, we're still gonna have to draft better around the guy. . . the development part of the equation certainly needs to improve as well. . . it still pisses me off that they let that scrub mckenzie fumble the season away, but deangelo henderson had to rot on the bench the entire year, and demarcus walker had his rookie season wasted with a dumb position switch. . .

[Hawgdriver]

Man, I am so not optimistic about the ability of this franchise to identify proper talent, keep and develop that talent, and put a solid performance in on Sundays. Nor can they staff worth a damn.

Still hopeful, but damn, the more I reflect on the post '15 turn and the way the '18 roster will look, the less it seems this org can get the job done.

But hell, it's a fresh start and the GM deserves the benefit of the doubt. Hope they crush the offseason, they need to.

[dogfish]

i want to trust #7. . . can't lie, though-- i'm a little shaken by how badly he seems to have missed on vance. . . we'll see. . . i was happy with the way we drafted last year-- and then none of them contributed anything (positive) except bolles. . . would really help if they could get something out of the rest of that class this year. . .

[Simple Jaded]

I’ll be gad damned!

[Poet]

We are good at finding corners. At least that's something.

[Ziggy]

i want to trust #7. . . can't lie, though-- i'm a little shaken by how badly he seems to have missed on vance. . . we'll see. . . i was happy with the way we drafted last year-- and then none of them contributed anything (positive) except bolles. . . would really help if they could get something out of the rest of that class this year. . .

Drafting talent is only part of it. When your coaches don't put the right players on the field in the right positions, it doesn't matter how well you draft. Walker got hosed, DeAngelo got hosed, and the one player that shouldn't have been on the field possibly cost us two or three games. Playing McKenzie as long as they did was the worst coaching call in the NFL last season outside of the Bills starting Peterson over Taylor debacle. How much better would this offensive line have been if Max Garcia sat the bench while McGovern manned the left guard spot? How much better would this offensive line have been if they stopped playing Menelik Watson when he became a revolving door? About the only move they made correctly was jettisoning Ward for Simmons, and I think that was Elway's call more than anyones.

We won't know how much talent this team really has until the coaching staff is made right.

[WARHORSE]

Drafting talent is only part of it. When your coaches don't put the right players on the field in the right positions, it doesn't matter how well you draft. Walker got hosed, DeAngelo got hosed, and the one player that shouldn't have been on the field possibly cost us two or three games. Playing McKenzie as long as they did was the worst coaching call in the NFL last season outside of the Bills starting Peterson over Taylor debacle. How much better would this offensive line have been if Max Garcia sat the bench while McGovern manned the left guard spot? How much better would this offensive line have been if they stopped playing Menelik Watson when he became a revolving door? About the only move they made correctly was jettisoning Ward for Simmons, and I think that was Elway's call more than anyones.

We won't know how much talent this team really has until the coaching staff is made right.

So true. Even if DeAngelo didnt know the playbook or couldnt pass protect, his ability was obvious. Belichick would have had 9 plays the kid was profound at going into the first week, and had him on the field for those 9 plays.

God given ability sitting on the sidelines does you NO GOOD.

[Rick]

With all of the needs > LB, OL, CB, WR if we can manage to nab Cousins I want us to move that 5th pick and pick up some more picks.

I think.

Might also be nice to use that pick on a bonafide OL stud.

Torn.

[Freyaka]

With all of the needs > LB, OL, CB, WR if we can manage to nab Cousins I want us to move that 5th pick and pick up some more picks.

I think.

Might also be nice to use that pick on a bonafide OL stud.

Torn.

I think if Buffalo will give us their two firsts to move up into our spot, I'd take it (they need to throw a second or third and a pick next year in for good measure)

[slim]

Aside from Justin Simmons, has #7 made any decent 3rd round picks?

[Timmy!]

Aside from Justin Simmons, has #7 made any decent 3rd round picks?

Sort of, Webster.

[slim]

Sort of, Webster.

Okay, well I guess maybe he better go with a CB of safety then.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Aside from Justin Simmons, has #7 made any decent 3rd round picks?

What are all of the third round picks he’s made?

[MOtorboat]

What are all of the third round picks he’s made?

Nate Irving
Ronnie Hillman
Keyvon Webster
Michael Schofield
Jeff Heuerman
Justin Simmons
Brendan Langley
Carlos Henderson

[Rick]

Holding out hope for Henderson.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Nate Irving
Ronnie Hillman
Keyvon Webster
Michael Schofield
Jeff Heuerman
Justin Simmons
Brendan Langley
Carlos Henderson

I wouldn’t say that’s a bad track record

[Poet]

I hate Dez Bryant.

[slim]

I wouldn’t say that’s a bad track record

Would you say it's a good track record?

[MOtorboat]

I wouldn’t say that’s a bad track record

I would disagree.

Rankings for third-round picks, 2011-2018 (Using Pro-Football-Reference):
AV: 24th
Starts: 26th
Years where player drafted is considered full time starter: 26th

The Giants and the Packers are a special kind of bad with 3rd round picks the last seven drafts, but the Broncos were far from good.


Rk Team AP1 PB St CarAV G GS Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk
1 Chief 2 8 17 179 520 302 0 1 0 0 1 525 2134 19 466 5530 27 5 83
2 Cow 1 3 18 153 391 292 1 2 10 1 0 1609 7193 49 537 5524 26 7 24
3 Sea 1 5 10 138 300 165 1815 2834 22176 161 56 640 3662 18 186 2369 11 3 10
4 Colts 0 4 16 117 355 226 0 1 0 0 0 18 77 0 719 10239 72 0 6
5 Reds 0 1 7 101 303 153 0 0 0 0 0 251 987 6 409 4598 32 4 0
6 Bills 0 0 14 100 328 221 0 0 0 0 0 15 84 0 166 2536 12 5 7.5
7 Sain 0 1 8 100 328 155 0 0 0 0 0 120 728 8 81 826 5 3 36
8 Rams 0 0 12 99 334 202 31 51 235 0 1 268 1009 6 262 2982 17 24 5
9 Card 2 2 9 96 357 159 0 0 0 0 0 440 1913 24 407 5115 26 12 7.5
10 Pat 0 0 7 96 349 156 500 869 5333 22 17 821 3360 29 27 144 0 24 4.5
11 Raid 0 0 12 95 360 195 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 72 763 6 1 8
12 Titan 1 4 10 94 307 179 0 0 0 0 0 8 43 0 34 388 3 9 44
13 Jag 0 1 18 89 303 170 1 1 19 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 4 20
14 Jets 0 0 11 87 316 173 0 0 0 0 0 7 27 0 6 82 0 2 26.5
15 Eag 0 1 9 84 254 147 833 1387 9752 61 29 121 372 5 51 523 4 9 9
16 Bro 0 0 7 81 374 130 139 219 1506 6 3 736 2918 16 239 2085 7 0 26.5
17 Lions 0 1 9 78 187 153 0 0 0 0 0 1 9 0 28 477 3 0 0
18 Beng 0 0 9 72 363 147 6 6 228 3 0 31 168 2 341 3774 28 7 14
19 Dolph 0 0 8 71 262 139 0 0 0 0 0 166 823 5 58 452 2 2 44
20 Charg 0 1 8 71 231 143 0 0 0 0 0 2 9 0 396 4951 25 4 0.5
21 Rav 0 0 6 68 307 110 0 0 0 0 0 359 1345 5 83 775 6 3 5
22 Bucs 0 0 6 67 195 113 467 770 4933 34 20 286 1048 2 163 1715 7 6 8.5
23 Panth 0 3 9 59 204 120 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 8.5
24 Bronc 0 0 6 59 290 101 0 0 0 0 0 494 1976 12 92 807 3 6 5
25 Falc 0 0 3 57 213 74 0 0 0 0 0 361 1540 14 128 1531 12 1 3.5
26 Viks 0 0 3 57 213 67 0 1 0 0 0 474 1918 7 142 984 5 5 25.5
27 49ers 0 0 7 52 210 100 123 224 1430 4 6 26 136 3 0 0 0 11 9
28 Bears 0 0 8 48 181 124 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 14 2
29 Steel 0 0 5 46 248 77 0 0 0 0 0 50 217 0 145 2098 10 0 10
30 Texan 0 1 8 45 212 130 0 0 0 0 0 83 325 2 182 1827 12 0 0
31 Pack 0 0 1 35 180 50 0 0 0 0 0 301 1265 6 223 1962 16 0 6
32 Gian 0 0 1 26 220 40 0 0 0 0 0 4 61 1 38 391 2 3 12

[Poet]

Elway is a FA type of general manager. FA's are easier to get when you have a QB.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Elway is a FA type of general manager. FA's are easier to get when you have a QB.

He didn’t have a qb when he landed Manning.

[dogfish]

I wouldn’t say that’s a bad track record

i would. . . 8 picks, and simmons is probably the only one who will make it to a second contract. . . the chorfs got hunt in the third last year, and he's more valuable than the entire list. . .

[Poet]

He didn’t have a qb when he landed Manning.

Well, yeah. You won't have a real QB when/if you land a real QB in FA.

[WARHORSE]

Aside from Justin Simmons, has #7 made any decent 3rd round picks?


Look......finding the few guys in the third round that come in to be impact players isnt easy. Take a look at each player drafted in the third round over the past how ever many years in the entire NFL and you wont find many studs.

Not trying to pass the responsibility on anyone else, I just think that in the third round drafting for need and on potential is an NFL mainstay.

Still....its nice to know we have an extra third and that it can be traded.....something not allowed with comp picks in the past.

[dogfish]

Well, yeah. You won't have a real QB when/if you land a real QB in FA.

al's humor is so misunderstood. . .

[Poet]

al's humor is so misunderstood. . .

No!

[MOtorboat]

Look......finding the few guys in the third round that come in to be impact players isnt easy. Take a look at each player drafted in the third round over the past how ever many years in the entire NFL and you wont find many studs.

Not trying to pass the responsibility on anyone else, I just think that in the third round drafting for need and on potential is an NFL mainstay.

Still....its nice to know we have an extra third and that it can be traded.....something not allowed with comp picks in the past.

Right, but the Broncos have managed to be below average at it...and my guess is their second-round track record with Elway isn't much better, but I spent enough time on the third round tonight.

[dogfish]

Right, but the Broncos have managed to be below average at it...and my guess is their second-round track record with Elway isn't much better, but I spent enough time on the third round tonight.

i'll spot you brock osweiler, montee ball, cody latimer, ty samfrailo, and rahim the nightmare. . .

wolfe is good, but one out of however many is hardly optimal. . .

[MOtorboat]

i'll spot you brock osweiler, montee ball, cody latimer, ty samfrailo, and rahim the nightmare. . .

wolfe is good, but one out of however many is hardly optimal. . .

I meant I'd like to see a full AV comparison, a la, my above chart...but I'm not delving into that again tonight.

[underrated29]

What about that rt Orlando w the goofy eyes. Wasn’t he a 3rd pick?


Still we suck at rd 2 and 3. That’s where he reaches for need instead of bpa. Walker last year was his best 2nd rd aside from Wolfe. Only vj fud that whole thing up. It shouldn’t be too hard to find 2 studs in the top 100 of all the college players.

[MOtorboat]

What about that rt Orlando w the goofy eyes. Wasn’t he a 3rd pick?


Still we suck at rd 2 and 3. That’s where he reaches for need instead of bpa. Walker last year was his best 2nd rd aside from Wolfe. Only vj fud that whole thing up. It shouldn’t be too hard to find 2 studs in the top 100 of all the college players.

Orlando Franklin was a second-rounder. He has a career AV of 40, second in that draft behind Von Miller (80 AV). Those are the two-best players Elway has drafted per career AV, which is a little unfair, because that's cumulative, not a by-year average, and it was Elway's first draft.

[Jsteve01]

What about that rt Orlando w the goofy eyes. Wasn’t he a 3rd pick?


Still we suck at rd 2 and 3. That’s where he reaches for need instead of bpa. Walker last year was his best 2nd rd aside from Wolfe.p Only vj fud that whole thing up. It shouldn’t be too hard to find 2 studs in the top 100 of all the college players.

Orlando Franklin was a second-rounder. He has a career AV of 40, second in that draft behind Von Miller (80 AV). Those are the two-best players Elway has drafted per career AV, which is a little unfair, because that's cumulative, not a by-year average, and it was Elway's first draft.

Really we suck at round one as well. Von Miller is a complete outlier because you almost can't miss at the number 2 overall pick especially when Cam Newton had already been drafted. And if you look at the way that that top 10 fell out you could have drafted anybody and said it was a good pic. So essentially he drafted Roby well Shane Ray the jury is still out on and who else? Bolles graded out as the 3rd best of the group last year and that in a horrid tackle class. We miss an awful lot. And that's why I've continued to say that if you know what you are and for some reason your front office can't evaluate the draft very well then do what you do and sign guys because he has done a good job with guys like Stewart.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Well, yeah. You won't have a real QB when/if you land a real QB in FA.

Indeed

[Poet]

Indeed

Indeed!

[Freyaka]

Indeed!

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