Some assorted Siemian Stats

[Tned]

As one of the big resident Siemian homers, I figured I'll create a thread to post some assorted stats as the season goes on.

Week 1:

Second only to Brady (10.3) in average completed air yards at 9.1 averages (Wilson tied for second with 9.1).

Third fastest time to throw at 2.26 seconds (Carr 2.04, Flacco 2.18)

Sixth in aggressiveness percentage at 33.3%, which is throws where the defender was within a yard or less of intended receiver at completion/incompletion

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing#yards

8th in deep passing yards with 73

Tied for first with 100% adjusted completion on deep throws of 20+ yards in the air (PFF considers ball to Sanders in endzone a drop, I'm mixed)

13th in adjusted completion % on all throws (above is just deep).

3rd in QB rating while under pressure at 122.9 (ironically above his overall rating for the game).

Tied for 3rd in sacks taken at 4

2nd in number % of plays that were play action, but 11th QB rating on play action 62.5 and 4th in yards per attempt on play action

2nd in QB rating on non play action passes at 110.8 and 9th in yards per attempt.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl/elite/stats/quarterback/rating#tools

[CrazyHorse]

I don't like that sack statistic.

[BeefStew25]

I love man ranch

[Tned]

I don't like that sack statistic.

Is it because I went with 3rd instead of third??? ;)

I think the reality is that that number could have been 6+ sacks.

At least VJ didn't repeat what he's been saying in preseason, which is "protection was pretty good." Something anyone watching could tell was not the same thing, or continuing to contend that Garcia and Barbre are both playing well and that's why they are splitting time.

He finally said protection needs to be better.

"The pass protection was not that good. Again, we were facing two elite rushers in Ingram and Bosa. We knew it was going to be a chore, but we have to be better there. It was too much pressure on Trevor. There were too many whiffs as far as blocking those speed rushers. It’s got to get better.”

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Is it because I went with 3rd instead of third??? ;)

I think the reality is that that number could have been 6+ sacks.

At least VJ didn't repeat what he's been saying in preseason, which is "protection was pretty good." Something anyone watching could tell was not the same thing, or continuing to contend that Garcia and Barbre are both playing well and that's why they are splitting time.

He finally said protection needs to be better.

"The pass protection was not that good. Again, we were facing two elite rushers in Ingram and Bosa. We knew it was going to be a chore, but we have to be better there. It was too much pressure on Trevor. There were too many whiffs as far as blocking those speed rushers. It’s got to get better.”
What VJ didn't mention was that if they keep allowing all those big hits on Trevor, he's going to be missing games again.

[Tned]

What VJ didn't mention was that if they keep allowing all those big hits on Trevor, he's going to be missing games again.

Which I think goes without saying on the too much pressure. He had two or three hits at least that could have knocked him out of the game, put him in concussion protocol, etc. I know I cringed on one that wasn't too much different than the one he hurt his shoulder on last year.

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Which I think goes without saying on the too much pressure. He had two or three hits at least that could have knocked him out of the game, put him in concussion protocol, etc. I know I cringed on one that wasn't too much different than the one he hurt his shoulder on last year.
The guy should have been penalized and fined for the body slam last year. The one I cringed
at yesterday was Ingram's spearing that caught Trevor flush in the neck. A couple inches
higher, and Tevor would have been in concussion protocol.

[OrangeHoof]

When I saw Trevor almost give up a pick six in the first qtr I said to myself "If Paxton does that, all we'd hear about is how he can't read defenses and this is proof why he shouldn't start, blah blah" but since it was Seimien, it will all be forgotten.

[OrangeHoof]

What VJ didn't mention was that if they keep allowing all those big hits on Trevor, he's going to be missing games again.

Not to mention missing some teeth.

[Tned]

When I saw Trevor almost give up a pick six in the first qtr I said to myself "If Paxton does that, all we'd hear about is how he can't read defenses and this is proof why he shouldn't start, blah blah" but since it was Seimien, it will all be forgotten.

I guess it's good that Lynch isn't capable of beating out a low ceiling, low talent 7th round pick, so we didn't have to see all those Lynch bashing posts.

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When I saw Trevor almost give up a pick six in the first qtr I said to myself "If Paxton does that, all we'd hear about is how he can't read defenses and this is proof why he shouldn't start, blah blah" but since it was Seimien, it will all be forgotten.
Well, all will be forgotten because of Siemian's superlative performance after that . . .

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Eric Goodman & Les Shapiro: Pretty good conversation on Trevor Siemian: http://tinyurl.com/y7wqcaz6

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I stopped listening at "cagy". Shut up dude-

[Canmore]

What VJ didn't mention was that if they keep allowing all those big hits on Trevor, he's going to be missing games again.

Don't jinx Trevor top.

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Don't jinx Trevor top.
I know, huh. I just hope he doesn't get body slammed like he was last year.

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I stopped listening at "cagy". Shut up dude-
Actually, he likes Trevor a lot. But I was somewhat amused by his allusion that white
men aren't that athletic. I guess he never watched Fran Tarkenton, Steve Young, Ben
Roethlisberger, our own John Elway, or even Paxton Lynch. I guess the wrong people
would accuse him of racism, but I'm not that politically correct . . .

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Actually, he likes Trevor a lot. But I was somewhat amused by his allusion that white
men aren't that athletic. I guess he never watched Fran Tarkenton, Steve Young, Ben
Roethlisberger, our own John Elway, or even Paxton Lynch. I guess the wrong people
would accuse him of racism, but I'm not that politically correct . . .

I just find him to be highly annoying. I deal with enough enjoying stuff throughout the day.

Is he racist? I don't know. His statements definitely qualify as ignorant however.

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I just find him to be highly annoying. I deal with enough enjoying stuff throughout the day.

Is he racist? I don't know. His statements definitely qualify as ignorant however.
I doubt that he is. I'm just saying that some might accuse him of that. But I understand.
He doesn't exactly make beautiful music, does he? :dance:

[NightTrainLayne]

Is it because I went with 3rd instead of third??? ;)


I read that as 3rd from the bottom, not 3rd best at sacks taken.

Surely that's what the stat is saying.

Otherwise, we are to believe that around 29 other QB's took 4 or MORE sacks over the weekend? Is that right? Maybe everyone had a lot of sacks, I didn't watch every game. Phillip Rivers sure didn't take 4 sacks.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I read that as 3rd from the bottom, not 3rd best at sacks taken.

Surely that's what the stat is saying.

Otherwise, we are to believe that around 29 other QB's took 4 or MORE sacks over the weekend? Is that right? Maybe everyone had a lot of sacks, I didn't watch every game. Phillip Rivers sure didn't take 4 sacks.

I took it as 3rd worst. 4 sacks is a lot

[NightTrainLayne]

I took it as 3rd worst. 4 sacks is a lot

Yeah, I googled in the meantime. It is 3rd worst. And maybe I'm misinterpreting Tned's response, but took it initially as "third best isn't bad".

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Yeah, I googled in the meantime. It is 3rd worst. And maybe I'm misinterpreting Tned's response, but took it initially as "third best isn't bad".
I think he's suggesting his play was pretty impressive considering how much pressure he faced

[Joel]

I think he's suggesting his play was pretty impressive considering how much pressure he faced
That's how I read it, but I pretty much beat that drum 24/7 for all our backs (i.e. both quarter- and running-.)

[NightTrainLayne]

I think he's suggesting his play was pretty impressive considering how much pressure he faced

Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea culpa.

[Tned]

I read that as 3rd from the bottom, not 3rd best at sacks taken.

Surely that's what the stat is saying.

Otherwise, we are to believe that around 29 other QB's took 4 or MORE sacks over the weekend? Is that right? Maybe everyone had a lot of sacks, I didn't watch every game. Phillip Rivers sure didn't take 4 sacks.

I was joking with Crazyhorse when he said he didn't like that stat, meaning he doesn't like to see our QB was sacked 4 times, so I joked about 3rd vs third.

Then went on to say that it could have been worse. I said it could easily have been 4+ sacks, and read somewhere (maybe a Mile High Sports article) where they speculated easily 6-8 sacks.

I assumed in that case, due to the number being 4 sacks, that it would be a given that it was 3rd worst, but I probably should have added that, since it's the only one that was x worst rather than x best.

[dogfish]

can't remember where i heard it, but it works. . . if peyton was The Sheriff, then trevor is The Deputy. . .

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I think he's suggesting his play was pretty impressive considering how much pressure he faced
And Trevor did face a lot of pressure. An awful lot . . .

[Tned]

http://www.broncosforums.com/downloads/TS_week1_2017.JPG

https://twitter.com/PFF_Denver/status/908041114174853120

[Hawgdriver]

I think he's suggesting his play was pretty impressive considering how much pressure he faced

By god Watson! I think you've got it!

[Tned]

can't remember where i heard it, but it works. . . if peyton was The Sheriff, then trevor is The Deputy. . .

And Rex Ryan is the prisoner that should have been beaten with a rubber hose until he could broadcast no more.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

By god Watson! I think you've got it!
Did you stay up for the whole game?

[Hawgdriver]

Did you stay up for the whole game?

No, wife and I knocked that out during halftime.

[dogfish]

And Rex Ryan is the prisoner that should have been beaten with a rubber hose until he could broadcast no more.

lol. . . i haven't gotten to hear the broadcast yet. . . the reviews haven't been encouraging. . . :laugh:

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

lol. . . i haven't gotten to hear the broadcast yet. . . the reviews haven't been encouraging. . . :laugh:

It was horrendous.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Although I could see Ryan turning into America's likeable buffoon, in the mode of John Madden.

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Although I could see Ryan turning into America's likeable buffoon, in the mode of John Madden.
Except that Madden was a terrific analyst. He explained details that would have never
occurred to me. He helped to give me a new appreciation of the game at that time.

[dogfish]

Except that Madden was a terrific analyst. I explained details that would have never
occurred to me. He helped to give me a new appreciation of the game at that time.

"They bring the TE down on the wham block, and BOOM!"

[Tned]

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