Davis Hit on Gordon

[ShaneFalco]

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[Northman]

That was a Ray Lewis play right thar.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

You got lit up like a Christmas tree son!

[Joel]

Why do people go for 4th down against the #1 D in our own house? Is it some kind of weird masochism fetish?

Good job, glorified safety. :tongue:

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Why do people go for 4th down against the #1 D in our own house? Is it some kind of weird masochism fetish?

Good job, glorified safety. :tongue:

They went for it because they were down by three scores with less than 8 minutes left.

[Davii]

It looks like he was already in the backfield when Melvin Gordon was born. He was there to flatten him right as the cord was cut.

[Simple Jaded]

Todd Davis is garbage.

[Valar Morghulis]

Todd Davis is garbage.

Agreed, but that hit though!

[Joel]

They went for it because they were down by three scores with less than 8 minutes left.
Yet only lost by a blocked FG; down 17 with half a quarter left is too early to go for it just because of the score and clock, especially on the road against an elite D. Punt and pin a crap offense deep, hoping for a pick-six/strip-sack, knowing there's a good chance they can do everything right yet STILL punt it back to midfield three plays later, before that elite D is halfway through it first cup of gatorade. It's not like any coach with a brain'll run up the score with bombs despite a 17 pt home lead in the 4th.

No argument though: If Belicheat hadn't kept going for it over and over in FG range on the road against the #1 D in a tight game where neither offense could do jack, they'd have gone to SB 50 instead of us. Or if he hadn't done the same thing in the same kind of game when he had 4th and 13 on the Giants 31 late in a 7-3 game he eventually lost by a FG, he might have won SB XLII. Five years later the Giants opened the game with a great drive that stalled just short of FG range, so what did they do? Launch a punt that went out at the NE*2, and on the very next play Brady opened HIS SB play with a deep post to NO ONE that drew a grounding flag: In the END ZONE; 2-0 Giants. In a game they lost on downs when NE* drove to midfield with 0:19 left, but had to keep throwing deep because they were trailed by 4 instead of 2.

I get the argument, and it's not wholly without merit, but again, the very fact we needed a lot effort, skill and luck on a single play to avoid OT even AFTER their failed 4th down attempt demonstrates a 17 pt deficit with a little over half a quarter left isn't desperate enough to go for it. Now, if they went for it because NFL history says a team's more likely to get the next score trying 4th and <5 from anywhere than punting instead, that's fine. :)

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Why do people go for 4th down against the #1 D in our own house? Is it some kind of weird masochism fetish?

Good job, glorified safety. :tongue:
Probably looking at last year's numbers.

This ain't last year . . .

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Todd Davis is garbage.
Actually, Davis is pretty good against the run.

It's his pass coverage that stinks . . .

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Joel, that's not a valid argument. You can't anticipate getting two turnovers in the last seven minutes of the football game

[Simple Jaded]

Actually, Davis is pretty good against the run.

It's his pass coverage that stinks . . .

If by "pretty good" you mean pathetic I agree Top, he's too easy to block and once he's blocked it's over...he stays blocked. Now, if it's his job to get and stay blocked he's outstanding.

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If by "pretty good" you mean pathetic I agree Top, he's too easy to block and once he's blocked it's over...he stays blocked. Now, if it's his job to get and stay blocked he's outstanding.
Well, I can agree with you that the Broncos could use an upgrade at that position . . .

[Joel]

Joel, that's not a valid argument. You can't anticipate getting two turnovers in the last seven minutes of the football game
Against a 6-man football offense you can, especially when Jamaal Charles is their closer. ;)

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Against a 6-man football offense you can, especially when Jamaal Charles is their closer. ;)

Well, I can't debate that .

[Cugel]

I get the argument, and it's not wholly without merit, but again, the very fact we needed a lot effort, skill and luck on a single play to avoid OT even AFTER their failed 4th down attempt demonstrates a 17 pt deficit with a little over half a quarter left isn't desperate enough to go for it. Now, if they went for it because NFL history says a team's more likely to get the next score trying 4th and <5 from anywhere than punting instead, that's fine.

This whining is completely the opposite of reality in my view.

#1 - Why did the Chargers come storming back? Because Jamal Charles going for extra yardage because this was his first regular season game back in the NFL after 2 years of frustrating injuries and he was pressing.

Is Jamal Charles a fumbler? No. He's an 11 year vet. He would have disappeared so long ago nobody would remember his name in KC if he was a fumbler. Therefore, we can confidently expect that he will not do that again in the next opportunity because he hasn't fumbled a lot over his career.

If Charles didn't fumble, that game is over in the 3rd quarter. It was the momentum change from the big turnover that ignited the Chargers offense that had been held under 100 yards for 3 quarters.

#2 - Trevor Siemian. Going into that game there were a lot of legitimate concerns. Today there are a lot fewer. He might not be the next Tom Brady, or Kurt Warner, but he's a lot better than anybody had any reason to expect for a 7th round QB. He plays smart. He makes some mistakes but rarely the same thing twice, which means he's learning (more than we could ever say about Paxton Giraffe or Brock Giraffe).

He nearly threw a disastrous pick 6, but he shook it off and played well throughout the game. It looks like the Broncos have a decent QB for this season, and that is the BIGGEST thing that could block them from winning in the playoffs - bad QB play. So, this is exciting to see Trevor performing at a high level. He has to keep it up, but so far, so good!

#3 - Special teams look pretty special, except for the rare McManus miss. He was perfect in the pre-season. That was missing the last few years.

#4 - Defense was smothering for 3 quarters, but gave up big drives in the 4th quarter. They looked sloppy rather than bad. That's the kind of stuff you can clean up easily - communication errors due to new players like Justin Simmon playing much bigger roles. If that happens in the playoffs or down the stretch, it will be a matter of deep concern. In game 1? Easily fixed stuff. And Phyllis Rivers is still a border-line Hall of Fame QB despite his crying a river to the refs so a comeback if you give him a big turnover is not unexpected. Just don't do that in future.

The run defense was the major weakness last year? Well the Chargers tried to run, and even after losing their coach said they should have run some more. Only it wasn't working very well because the Broncos D stuffed them hard when they tried - 60 yards total rushing is pretty good. We'll see next week against Zeke Elliot but so far - Round 1 to the Broncos run defense.

All in all this was a very satisfying win from a technical standpoint. If you just take the casual fan perspective "OMG! They let the Chargers come back!" Then it looks different. But I'm looking beneath the surface and there's a lot to like about this game.