53 man roster discussion (roster cuts, trades, final roster, etc)

[VonDoom]

I thought we should have a thread for all of the roster moves over the next couple of days. As of this morning, we had 90 guys on our roster:

http://www.denverbroncos.com/team/roster.html

I know this was posted in a couple of places, but I figured I'd start with this, since it's our first real move of the weekend:

Denver Broncos‏Verified account @Broncos now37 seconds ago

We have agreed to trade OL Ty Sambrailo to Atlanta for its 5th round pick in the 2018 NFL Draft.

[BroncoWave]

I'm a little surprised we even got a 5th for Sambo. Shows how thirsty teams are for o-linemen.

[VonDoom]

Mike Klis‏Verified account @MikeKlis 1m1 minute ago

RB Stevan Ridley has been released. #9sports

[Joel]

I'm a little surprised we even got a 5th for Sambo. Shows how thirsty teams are for o-linemen.
That's precisely why good OTs don't last until the end of the 2nd round. When the value of QBs is so high it pushes the value of OTs that much higher, letting eight go by yet expecting to strike gold with the ninth is folly. Fortunately, we took this years very first OT, so literally had our choice of any rookie OT; fingers crossed we got it right.

[Spiritguy]

Mike Klis
✔@MikeKlis (https://twitter.com/MikeKlis)

Broncos have waived WR Anthony Nash. Gotta think he's a practice squad candidate. #9sports (https://twitter.com/hashtag/9sports?src=hash)

[G_Money]

The 5th for Sambrailo is good. It's more than I expected for him or Stephenson. Stephenson stays on a reworked contract, but he and Sambrailo were both terrible and only one was gonna get a 5th. As long as Donald doesn't see the field we'll be okay. If he does, then we would have been screwed with Ty as well.

Elway's added Butt, McKenzie, McGovern, Doss, Barrow, T. King and Malik Jackson in the 5th since he's been here. Whether he uses it for ammo to trade up or just drafts a guy, he's been better with 5ths than 2nds. Find all the extra late picks ya want, John.

[G_Money]

https://twitter.com/RonnieKRadio/status/903673366510321664

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The #Denver #Broncos have cut Stevan Ridley.

[Spiritguy]

Mike Klis
✔@MikeKlis (https://twitter.com/MikeKlis)

RB Juwan Thompson has been waived. All the best to a Broncos undrafted success story the past 3 years. #9sports (https://twitter.com/hashtag/9sports?src=hash)

[G_Money]

A little surprised they cut both Ridley and Juwan, but their belief in Jamaal Charles is strong.

[BeefStew25]

A little surprised they cut both Ridley and Juwan, but their belief in Jamaal Charles is strong.

He had some serious bounce Thur night. And the Broncos seem to know he doesn't need to be the man.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

A little surprised they cut both Ridley and Juwan, but their belief in Jamaal Charles is strong.

We are really deep at RB. All 4 guys can contribute.

[BeefStew25]

The RB crew has jelled.

[Tned]

A little surprised they cut both Ridley and Juwan, but their belief in Jamaal Charles is strong.

And they don't want to put Booker on the PUP, so they are looking at 4 RBs plus a FB, so no room for Ridley/Thompson unless Booker's on PUP.

[G_Money]

And they don't want to put Booker on the PUP, so they are looking at 4 RBs plus a FB, so no room for Ridley/Thompson unless Booker's on PUP.

Yeah, it's the Booker thing. With the tendency of our RB crew to get busted up with injuries every year, I just like to have a lot of em on hand. Ridley and Juwan both looked good, with Juwan serving the extra benefit of being a good special teamer who can fill in at FB if anything happens to the Nebraska Nightmare. You just can't keep em all. It's a good problem to have.

[GEM]

Mike Klis
✔@MikeKlis (https://twitter.com/MikeKlis)

RB Juwan Thompson has been waived. All the best to a Broncos undrafted success story the past 3 years. #9sports (https://twitter.com/hashtag/9sports?src=hash)

Incredibly proud of what he has done with his chance. Nothing but the best to a really good guy!

[underrated29]

A little surprised they cut both Ridley and Juwan, but their belief in Jamaal Charles is strong.



Been saying it since draft day that Charles is the man.

[Hawgdriver]

Broncos waiving these dudes early is class.

[Joel]

Yeah, it's the Booker thing. With the tendency of our RB crew to get busted up with injuries every year, I just like to have a lot of em on hand. Ridley and Juwan both looked good, with Juwan serving the extra benefit of being a good special teamer who can fill in at FB if anything happens to the Nebraska Nightmare. You just can't keep em all. It's a good problem to have.
Right; expected, and annoying only because 1) I REALLY like Thompson and 2) Booker got hurt so early last year that it's hard to know what we have (or will.)

I realize it's a high contact low lifespan position, but still believe our RBs get banged up more than most because our line keeps forcing them to break multiple tackles just to reach the line, then go down in a heap, while other RBs get to run free 20-30 yds and then out of bounds (or into the end zone.) Hopefully our line's improved enough to test that theory, but right now that looks as dubious as ever. If it is sound, maybe that's an Denver did Thompsons "it's better to hit than be hit" style no favors.


Incredibly proud of what he has done with his chance. Nothing but the best to a really good guy!
Amen. I'm confident someone will grab him; I just hope we aren't left eating our hearts out because he becomes the next Arian Foster or Terrell Davis while Booker turns into Montee Ball or Ronnie Hillman 2.0. Remember when we could've had Lacy but skipped him for Ball? Yeah, thought so. :(

[Spiritguy]

Nicki Jhabvala
✔@NickiJhabvala (https://twitter.com/NickiJhabvala)

Broncos have released TE Steven Scheu

[GEM]

Right; expected, and annoying only because 1) I REALLY like Thompson and 2) Booker got hurt so early last year that it's hard to know what we have (or will.)

I realize it's a high contact low lifespan position, but still believe our RBs get banged up more than most because our line keeps forcing them to break multiple tackles just to reach the line, then go down in a heap, while other RBs get to run free 20-30 yds and then out of bounds (or into the end zone.) Hopefully our line's improved enough to test that theory, but right now that looks as dubious as ever. If it is sound, maybe that's an Denver did Thompsons "it's better to hit than be hit" style no favors.


Amen. I'm confident someone will grab him; I just hope we aren't left eating our hearts out because he becomes the next Arian Foster or Terrell Davis while Booker turns into Montee Ball or Ronnie Hillman 2.0. Remember when we could've had Lacy but skipped him for Ball? Yeah, thought so. :(

Eh, I don't think he'll be that, but I do think he has a place in this league, especially how he ran last night.

Lacy is just a fat ass who likes eating more than he likes running. :laugh:

[BroncoJoe]

Mike Klis
✔@MikeKlis (https://twitter.com/MikeKlis)

RB Juwan Thompson has been waived. All the best to a Broncos undrafted success story the past 3 years. #9sports (https://twitter.com/hashtag/9sports?src=hash)

This makes me sad.

[VonDoom]

Not Bronco related, but I thought Wave might be interested:

Aaron Wilson‏ @AaronWilson_NFL 4m4 minutes ago

Ronnie Hillman released by Cowboys

[BeefStew25]

I miss Al Wilson.

[VonDoom]

Mike Klis‏Verified account @MikeKlis 22s23 seconds ago

Broncos have waived OLB Danny Mason. #9sports

[VonDoom]

Mike Klis‏Verified account @MikeKlis 3s3 seconds ago

Broncos have waived rookie S Dante Barnett. #9sports

[GEM]

I miss Al Wilson.

You can catch Smoke Dog in his new football league.

[VonDoom]

Nicki Jhabvala‏Verified account @NickiJhabvala 2m2 minutes ago

Broncos released OLB Deon Hollins

[Spiritguy]

Nicki Jhabvala
✔@NickiJhabvala (https://twitter.com/NickiJhabvala)

Broncos have released TE Steven Scheu

Correction, Scheu was waived not released. ;)

[turftoad]

Not Bronco related, but I thought Wave might be interested:

Aaron Wilson‏ @AaronWilson_NFL 4m4 minutes ago

Ronnie Hillman released by Cowboys

Not the bull dozer!

[slim]

Not the bull dozer!

It's amazing how teams are incapable of seeing how talented he is.

[BroncoWave]

Not Bronco related, but I thought Wave might be interested:

Aaron Wilson‏ @AaronWilson_NFL 4m4 minutes ago

Ronnie Hillman released by Cowboys

Why you gotta do me that way, fam?

[VonDoom]

Why you gotta do me that way, fam?

Just reporting the facts, buddy.

[VonDoom]

Mike Klis‏Verified account @MikeKlis now6 seconds ago

Rookie C Cameron Hunt has been waived. #9sports

[Spiritguy]

Mike Klis
✔@MikeKlis (https://twitter.com/MikeKlis)

Rookie C Cameron Hunt has been waived. #9sports (https://twitter.com/hashtag/9sports?src=hash)

roster has him as a G. :confused:

Doom beat me to it. lol

[Joel]

Eh, I don't think he'll be that, but I do think he has a place in this league, especially how he ran last night.
Lacy is just a fat ass who likes eating more than he likes running. :laugh:
Yeah, but Ball beats up women and GETS beat up by men: If I had to pick one or the other, I'd still prefer Lacy.

[topscribe]

Yeah, but Ball beats up women and GETS beat up by men: If I had to pick one or the other, I'd still prefer Lacy.
Neither one would belong on today's roster . . .

[Tned]

Yeah, it's the Booker thing. With the tendency of our RB crew to get busted up with injuries every year, I just like to have a lot of em on hand. Ridley and Juwan both looked good, with Juwan serving the extra benefit of being a good special teamer who can fill in at FB if anything happens to the Nebraska Nightmare. You just can't keep em all. It's a good problem to have.

I must admit if I was making the decision would be tempted to put Booker on the shelf for 6 weeks and keep either Ridley or Thompson. They wouldn't want to keep Ridley unless they thought it was for the year, however, due to guaranteeing his contract if he's on the roster week 1.

[VonDoom]

Nicki Jhabvala‏Verified account @NickiJhabvala 32s32 seconds ago

Broncos waived rookie DE Shakir Soto

[topscribe]

I must admit if I was making the decision would be tempted to put Booker on the shelf for 6 weeks and keep either Ridley or Thompson. They wouldn't want to keep Ridley unless they thought it was for the year, however, due to guaranteeing his contract if he's on the roster week 1.
The way Ridley runs the ball, it might not seem such a bad proposition. I personally haven't seen Booker run it any better than that . . .

[G_Money]

Nicki Jhabvala‏Verified account @NickiJhabvala 32s32 seconds ago

Broncos waived rookie DE Shakir Soto

Love to see him make the practice squad. We'll probably need a spare DE the way we go through defensive line players. It's like playing football is an injury risk or something.

[Spiritguy]

Nicki Jhabvala
✔@NickiJhabvala (https://twitter.com/NickiJhabvala)

Broncos have waived ILB Quentin Gause. Possible practice squad candidate.

[G_Money]

I must admit if I was making the decision would be tempted to put Booker on the shelf for 6 weeks and keep either Ridley or Thompson. They wouldn't want to keep Ridley unless they thought it was for the year, however, due to guaranteeing his contract if he's on the roster week 1.

Broncos can still get crafty and bring Ridley back after the start of the season if nobody picks him up without that season-long guaranteed salary. He should definitely have a job in the NFL this year.

[VonDoom]

Love to see him make the practice squad. We'll probably need a spare DE the way we go through defensive line players. It's like playing football is an injury risk or something.

I liked what I saw from Soto. Would have no problem bringing him back to the PS.

[Ziggy]

Broncos can still get crafty and bring Ridley back after the start of the season if nobody picks him up without that season-long guaranteed salary. He should definitely have a job in the NFL this year.

And cut which rb?
Henderson
Charles
Cj
Booker
Or our only fb?

Ridley is gone barring injury.

[BroncoJoe]

How many have been waived, and how many more to get to 53?

[Tned]

@MikeKlis
2m
Broncos OLB Vontarrius Dora has been waived. He got a long look.

[Spiritguy]

Here's where we stand at the moment.

OL Ty Sambrailo - trade to Atlanta
RB Stevan Ridley - released
WR Anthony Nash - waived
RB Juwan Thompson - waived
TE Steven Scheu - waived
OLB Danny Mason - waived
S Dante Barnett - waived
OLB Deon Hollins - released
C (G) Cameron Hunt - waived
DE Shakir Soto - waived
ILB Quentin Gause - waived
OLB Vontarrius Dora - waived

[BroncoJoe]

12 gone out of 90?

26 to go.

[Ziggy]

I half expect the Broncos to claim or trade for a TE. Outside of our special teams coverage, that's been the biggest disappointment of the preseason. (Unless you count Lynch)

[Spiritguy]

Mike Klis
✔@MikeKlis (https://twitter.com/MikeKlis)

Broncos have waived OLB Ken Ekanem. #9sports (https://twitter.com/hashtag/9sports?src=hash)

[topscribe]

Report: Broncos considered top landing spot for defensive lineman Ahtyba Rubin

https://www.milehighreport.com/2017/9/1/16243708/report-broncos-considered-top-landing-spot-for-defensive-lineman-ahtyba-rubin

[VonDoom]

@MikeKlis
2m
Broncos OLB Vontarrius Dora has been waived. He got a long look.

A little surprised by this, at least for now. I think we only have four OLB left on the roster at the moment, and two of them are Ray and Barrett, both banged up. I guess Walker counts too, but we need something there.

[topscribe]

A little surprised by this, at least for now. I think we only have four OLB left on the roster at the moment, and two of them are Ray and Barrett, both banged up. I guess Walker counts too, but we need something there.
Barrett's back healthy, from what I have seen . . .

[dogfish]

@MikeKlis
2m
Broncos OLB Vontarrius Dora has been waived. He got a long look.

finally, jaded can breathe easy!

[Tned]

A little surprised by this, at least for now. I think we only have four OLB left on the roster at the moment, and two of them are Ray and Barrett, both banged up. I guess Walker counts too, but we need something there.

I was surprised as well.

[Simple Jaded]

@MikeKlis
2m
Broncos OLB Vontarrius Dora has been waived. He got a long look.

Yes!


Yes!


Yes!

[Simple Jaded]

A little surprised by this, at least for now. I think we only have four OLB left on the roster at the moment, and two of them are Ray and Barrett, both banged up. I guess Walker counts too, but we need something there.

Deiontrez Mount is better.

Dora will be available if they need him.

[GEM]

Yes!


Yes!


Yes!

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[G_Money]

Nicki Jhabvala‏Verified account
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Broncos releasing OT Justin Murray

[Simple Jaded]

Nicki Jhabvala‏Verified account
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Broncos releasing OT Justin Murray

He should be on PS, Cedric Lang too, Elijah Wilkinson too, too.

[VonDoom]

https://twitter.com/allbrightnfl/status/903725112607813632

[CoachChaz]

Report: Broncos considered top landing spot for defensive lineman Ahtyba Rubin

https://www.milehighreport.com/2017/9/1/16243708/report-broncos-considered-top-landing-spot-for-defensive-lineman-ahtyba-rubin

Shame. I wanted Jarrett to make the roster.

[GEM]

Well, we already expected that....now the better news will be if he made it for good and not just for a couple of weeks! Make it happen, Broncos!

[VonDoom]

Well, we already expected that....now the better news will be if he made it for good and not just for a couple of weeks! Make it happen, Broncos!

Yes, that is the key

[BroncoWave]

Well, we already expected that....now the better news will be if he made it for good and not just for a couple of weeks! Make it happen, Broncos!

He's definitely played his way into forcing the coaches into making a really tough decision. Can't ask for any more than that from an UDFA.

[topscribe]

He's definitely played his way into forcing the coaches into making a really tough decision. Can't ask for any more than that from an UDFA.
That will set up an interesting situation when Lynch comes back because Sloter has thoroughly outplayed him . . .

[Joel]

Barring something drastic changing, I'm told by multiple sources UDFA QB Kyle Sloter has made the #Broncos (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Broncos?src=hash) 53 man roster.
Awesome: Now stop all this nonsense about cutting Ward and we'll be set. ;)

In all seriousness, none of the cuts so far bother me (though we're only about half done) apart from Thompson, and I've been pretty resigned to that for a while.


That will set up an interesting situation when Lynch comes back because Sloter has thoroughly outplayed him . . .
Just ride with 3 QBs for crying out loud; is anyone really going to pretend we're SO deep at EVERY position that we can't afford to lose ANYONE to keep Sloter? PS one or both of the Hendersons and if we need either later we can always reshuffle then. Why do Elway and Joseph have to be a couple drama llamas?

[Ziggy]

Shame. I wanted Jarrett to make the roster.

I was hoping they would keep him over the younger Peko. He was an immovable force last night.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

https://twitter.com/allbrightnfl/status/903725112607813632

Awesome, now it's time for some suckers who were mocking me to come eat crow!

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Shame. I wanted Jarrett to make the roster.

Me too, did he get cut?

[slim]

Awesome, now it's time for some suckers who were mocking me to come eat crow!

You, Hawg, War....you guys called it.

Huck the faters!!!

[VonDoom]

I was hoping they would keep him over the younger Peko. He was an immovable force last night.

Nothing has happened on that Seahawks trade. Jarrett could very well still make the roster

[Spiritguy]

Mike Klis (https://twitter.com/MikeKlis)

Broncos have waived DL Nelson Adams. #9sports (https://twitter.com/hashtag/9sports?src=hash)

[Simple Jaded]

You could cut Kyle Peko and not even have to PS him, he could live in Uncle Domata basement until the Broncos needed him. He's a dime-a-dozen, he's got nothing on Jarrett.

[slim]

You could cut Kyle Peko and not even have to PS him, he could live in Uncle Domata basement until the Broncos needed him. He's a dime-a-dozen, he's got nothing on Jarrett.

Why are you so full of hate?

[dogfish]

You could cut Kyle Peko and not even have to PS him, he could live in Uncle Domata basement until the Broncos needed him. He's a dime-a-dozen, he's got nothing on Jarrett.

i like this plan. . .

when are we gonna cut some more fools?

[Simple Jaded]

i like this plan. . .

when are we gonna cut some more fools?

Heads roll in the morning, I bet.

[Simple Jaded]

Why are you so full of hate?

Fuel, food for my soul. It's my center, my home.

[Hawgdriver]

Awesome, now it's time for some suckers who were mocking me to come eat crow!

:five:

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

:five:
:cheers:

[Tned]

@1043TheFan
(https://twitter.com/1043TheFan) 24s (https://twitter.com/1043TheFan/status/904030822956638208)
#Broncos (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Broncos) cut OL Michael Schofield per @NickiJhabvala (https://twitter.com/NickiJhabvala/).

[Tned]

@MikeKlis (https://twitter.com/MikeKlis)




Broncos are waiving Kalif Raymond. Tough one. He had to be one of last ones cut. #9sports (https://twitter.com/search?q=%239sports)

[Tned]

@MikeKlis
(https://twitter.com/MikeKlis) 1h (https://twitter.com/MikeKlis/status/904015237082255360)
A paycut for T.J. Ward was never considered. Time of Simmons and Ward inability to get on field with hammy were factors. #9sports (https://twitter.com/search?q=%239sports)

[Northman]

@1043TheFan
(https://twitter.com/1043TheFan) 24s (https://twitter.com/1043TheFan/status/904030822956638208)
#Broncos (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Broncos) cut OL Michael Schofield per @NickiJhabvala (https://twitter.com/NickiJhabvala/).

I just told Missy this and she is dancing nekkid and celebrating. lol

[Tned]

I just told Missy this and she is dancing nekkid and celebrating. lol

This post is worthless without pics...

[Tned]

@MikeKlis
(https://twitter.com/MikeKlis) 13s (https://twitter.com/MikeKlis/status/904033899809988608)
Broncos have waived TE Austin Traylor. So three TEs remaining are Virgil Green, Jeff Heuerman, A.J. Derby. #9sports (https://twitter.com/search?q=%239sports)

[VonDoom]

I thought Schofield might stick after Sambrailo was cut but I guess Billy Turner will make it instead

I also thought we might keep Raymond for now too. Latimer makes it?

Jamal Carter is a lock st this point after Ward cut too

[topscribe]

I thought Schofield might stick after Sambrailo was cut but I guess Billy Turner will make it instead

I also thought we might keep Raymond for now too. Latimer makes it?

Jamal Carter is a lock st this point after Ward cut too
The emergence of Carter might be one of the reasons for T.J.'s departure . . .

[G_Money]

I just told Missy this and she is dancing nekkid and celebrating. lol

Same. No Schofield makes me :elefant:

[Northman]

Same. No Schofield makes me :elefant:

Without pics this post is worthless.

Wait.....

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Nicki is tracking and updating all of the Broncos' cuts, trades here
http://www.denverpost.com/2017/09/01/broncos-roster-tracker-2017/

[VonDoom]

Vic Lombardi keeps talking about the possibility of bringing back Osweiler. If we cut Sloter - or anyone else - for that giraffe ...

[Northman]

Vic Lombardi keeps talking about the possibility of bringing back Osweiler. If we cut Sloter - or anyone else - for that giraffe ...

I dont see it happening honestly.

[VonDoom]

I hope not, but even Klis is talking now:

https://twitter.com/mikeklis/status/904047043412336640

[Simple Jaded]

You don't think Elway would like to bring Brent back just to cut him again in a couple weeks?

[topscribe]

I hope not, but even Klis is talking now:

https://twitter.com/mikeklis/status/904047043412336640
I seriously doubt this. Lot of bad blood. I don't think Elway would call or Osweiler would come.

[Tned]

@NickiJhabvala
(https://twitter.com/NickiJhabvala)now (https://twitter.com/NickiJhabvala/status/904050000405168128)
Broncos waived DL Tyrique Jarrett

[Joel]

@MikeKlis (https://twitter.com/MikeKlis)

Broncos are waiving Kalif Raymond. Tough one. He had to be one of last ones cut. #9sports (https://twitter.com/search?q=%239sports)
First one I've felt bad about since Thompson. And Ward, of course, but that's a whole other thing.

Oz ain't coming back; needs a little more going for him than "taller than Lynch."

[VonDoom]

Tyrique Jarrett cut. That one surprises me. Should be practice squad

[Tned]

https://twitter.com/MikeKlis/status/904052159796305920

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Mike Klis‏Verified account @MikeKlis 27s

Broncos are waiving QB Kyle Sloter. #9sports

[Tned]

5, 4, 3, 2, 1....

Heads exploding all over Broncos Country!!!

[Freyaka]

@1043TheFan
(https://twitter.com/1043TheFan) 24s (https://twitter.com/1043TheFan/status/904030822956638208)
#Broncos (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Broncos) cut OL Michael Schofield per @NickiJhabvala (https://twitter.com/NickiJhabvala/).

Quick, someone queue up the hallelujah chorus!

[Freyaka]

Mike Klis‏Verified account @MikeKlis 27s

Broncos are waiving QB Kyle Sloter. #9sports

Wait what? so much for earlier reports.

We'll be alright, just weird to see it reported he made the roster then all the sudden he's gone.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Mike Klis‏Verified account @MikeKlis 3m

Broncos do hope Kyle loter clears waivers and returns to practice squad. #9sports

He meant Sloter

[VonDoom]

What a poor decision

[Tned]

@MikeKlis
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Broncos have released WR Marlon Brown. #9sports

[Tned]

What a poor decision

What, me? All I did was post it.

[Joel]

Mike Klis‏Verified account @MikeKlis 3m

Broncos do hope Kyle loter clears waivers and returns to practice squad. #9sports

He meant Sloter
Hope in one hand....

The Colts just traded a decent receiver for Jacoby Brissett because they didn't dare start Scott Tolzien Opening Day. Sloter has left the building.

[Tned]

@UKBroncosUK
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BREAKING NEWS: #Broncos release offensive lineman Dillon Day per @RapSheet

[Freyaka]

What a poor decision

It's a head scratcher, but maybe they have someone else they are eye-balling getting. I'd have rather kept sloter over Lynch, but that's because I have zero confidence in Lynch at this point.

[Joel]

The best part is that whoever squeaks by as the 53rd man will be pointed to all year as "the reason we didn't have room for Sloter." Because Lynch/Sloter wasn't an either/or proposition: Keeping 3 QBs was eminently doable as long as we were willing to part with one more bubble player somewhere else.

[Northman]

Mike Klis‏Verified account @MikeKlis 27s

Broncos are waiving QB Kyle Sloter. #9sports

Lmao

Oh man, this is going to be epic.

[Freyaka]

Lmao

Oh man, this is going to be epic.

Yea, it's been pretty interesting watching the meltdown play out in all of the areas it's been announced.

[Tned]

@MikeKlis
now
Talked to 2 player sources who said they expect Broncos to zero in on Osweiler once he's officially available. Kudos to Elway. #9sports

[Northman]

@MikeKlis
now
Talked to 2 player sources who said they expect Broncos to zero in on Osweiler once he's officially available. Kudos to Elway. #9sports


Oh man, i hope not.

[VonDoom]

@MikeKlis
now
Talked to 2 player sources who said they expect Broncos to zero in on Osweiler once he's officially available. Kudos to Elway. #9sports

Lots of smoke around the Osweiler rumor. Not liking it. Sloter is already better so I'm confused

[Tned]

Oh man, i hope not.

I think it makes a lot of sense.

[Northman]

Dont know if he is better as he has never played against better players but we have already seen what Oz can do after 5 years in the league so i think he has hit his ceiling. At least with Sloter there is a chance of untapped potential that i would be curious to see.

[Northman]

I think it makes a lot of sense.

Are they bringing him as a backup to Siemian? Thats the only way i can see it happening because of the injury to Lynch. Is Denver really going to keep playing emotional games with the team by sending mixed signals with a former QB who flamed out in Houston and Cleveland and burned some bridges on his way out? I dont think it makes any sense at all.

[Freyaka]

@MikeKlis
now
Talked to 2 player sources who said they expect Broncos to zero in on Osweiler once he's officially available. Kudos to Elway. #9sports

Oh FFS Elway... If Klis is saying it, that's not good.

[topscribe]

The best part is that whoever squeaks by as the 53rd man will be pointed to all year as "the reason we didn't have room for Sloter." Because Lynch/Sloter wasn't an either/or proposition: Keeping 3 QBs was eminently doable as long as we were willing to part with one more bubble player somewhere else.
This means that the Broncos have one QB + Sunshine.

I hope they have someone else out there in mind . . .

[Tned]

Are they bringing him as a backup to Siemian? Thats the only way i can see it happening because of the injury to Lynch. Is Denver really going to keep playing emotional games with the team by sending mixed signals with a former QB who flamed out in Houston and Cleveland and burned some bridges on his way out? I dont think it makes any sense at all.

Yes, and whoever signs Oz will sign him to the veteran minimum, because Cleveland is already on the hook for $16 million. So, whether they sign him for $900k or $9 million, doesn't make one bit of difference to Oz, since all it does is reduce how much of the difference Cleveland has to pay him.

I'm not convinced they will bring him in, just saying he is a journeyman that could make some sense to serve as backup for a few weeks.

Still think they would rather have someone who isn't vested and won't require them to guarantee the full year, so think it's likely they find a third year player that's been released.

[Spiritguy]

Looks like this is were we are so far. (24 gone and 13 to go)

Friday
OL Ty Sambrailo - trade to Atlanta
RB Stevan Ridley - released
WR Anthony Nash - waived
RB Juwan Thompson - waived
TE Steven Scheu - waived
OLB Danny Mason - waived
S Dante Barnett - waived
OLB Deon Hollins - released
C (G) Cameron Hunt - waived
DE Shakir Soto - waived
ILB Quentin Gause - waived
OLB Vontarrius Dora - waived
OLB Ken Ekanem - waived
OT Justin Murray - released
DL Nelson Adams - waived

Saturday
OL Michael Schofield - released
WR Kalif Raymond - waived
TE Austin Traylor - waived
DL Tyrique Jarrett - waived
QB Kyle Sloter - waived
WR Marlon Brown - released
OL Dillon Day - released

Edit to add

S Dymonte Thomas - waived
and S boss Ward to the list.

[slim]

I understand the desire to bring in a vet backup QB, but Brock??

Holy shit...that would be a disappointing decision.

[Tned]

This means that the Broncos have one QB + Sunshine.

I hope they have someone else out there in mind . . .

Still assuming Taylor has made the team, that's not a lock yet, as Joseph implied he needed a big game on Saturday to lock up spot.

[Northman]

Letting Taylor go would be a mistake but Denver has already been down that road with Ward so i wouldnt be surprised. Either way, if Taylor gets cut he will get picked up quickly by someone.

[Tned]

Letting Taylor go would be a mistake but Denver has already been down that road with Ward so i wouldnt be surprised. Either way, if Taylor gets cut he will get picked up quickly by someone.

I'm not sure I agree with that comparison. Letting Taylor go would be like letting Simmons or Park go.

[Northman]

I'm not sure I agree with that comparison. Letting Taylor go would be like letting Simmons or Park go.

Only as far as the depth chart is concerned. As far as im concerned he has the best hands on the team as far as the receivers go.

[topscribe]

Dont know if he is better as he has never played against better players but we have already seen what Oz can do after 5 years in the league so i think he has hit his ceiling. At least with Sloter there is a chance of untapped potential that i would be curious to see.
Well, he does have experience now. It's just that I would be surprised if he wanted to come here to be a backup.

[Tned]

@NickiJhabvala
3h
I'm told a pay cut was not discussed with Ward. Plan was to move on to to Justin Simmons and Will Parks. "It was a football decision."

[Northman]

@NickiJhabvala
3h
I'm told a pay cut was not discussed with Ward. Plan was to move on to to Justin Simmons and Will Parks. "It was a football decision."

Lol, if this is Denver's answer to the question than its very contradicting to their "win now" philosophy. If you are going young it means you are rebuilding, not trying to compete for SB's.

[Timmy!]

I hadn't mentioned it, but Amber actually met Oz's father about a month ago at her work and bullshitted with him for a bit. He said Oz regretted leaving Denver badly within a week and hated Houston. He knew he screwed up. Him ending up in Denver would not shock me.

[Northman]

I hadn't mentioned it, but Amber actually met Oz's father about a month ago at her work and bullshitted with him for a bit. He said Oz regretted leaving Denver badly within a week and hated Houston. He knew he screwed up. Him ending up in Denver would not shock me.

I think Oz stated this a few weeks back right before he got traded to Cleveland.

[Tned]

Lol, if this is Denver's answer to the question than its very contradicting to their "win now" philosophy. If you are going young it means you are rebuilding, not trying to compete for SB's.

Not if you think your young player has little to know drop off, has a better chance of staying on the field (didn't Ward miss games at end of season, plus all of preseason) and it means you can keep a young safety as depth. Putting Simmons/Park in lineup would be the "now" and keeping young safety depth PLUS experience for young starters/rotation the "now on."

[Tned]

Also, for those on the cut Lynch instead of Sloter, besides the fact that Sloter might make it to the practice squad and Lynch wouldn't, cutting Lynch would also come with a $3.8 million cap hit. So, not only are you giving up early on a 2-3 year project, you are taking a healthy cap hit to do so.

[Freyaka]

Lol, if this is Denver's answer to the question than its very contradicting to their "win now" philosophy. If you are going young it means you are rebuilding, not trying to compete for SB's.

What if the young guys have proven they have the capability to help you win now...Have a little faith, we will be fine and the sky is still very much in the same place you left it yesterday.

[VonDoom]

Also, for those on the cut Lynch instead of Sloter, besides the fact that Sloter might make it to the practice squad and Lynch wouldn't, cutting Lynch would also come with a $3.8 million cap hit. So, not only are you giving up early on a 2-3 year project, you are taking a healthy cap hit to do so.

I've only advocated cutting Lynch in jest. Keep three QBs would have been the better answer. No need to lose Sloter and pray he makes it back

[Northman]

Not if you think your young player has little to know drop off, has a better chance of staying on the field (didn't Ward miss games at end of season, plus all of preseason) and it means you can keep a young safety as depth. Putting Simmons/Park in lineup would be the "now" and keeping young safety depth PLUS experience for young starters/rotation the "now on."

The key word there is "think".

[GEM]

It's like they're allergic to qb talent.

[DenBronx]

Sloter AND Ward cut??? :mad:


FAKE NEWS!!!

[Northman]

What if the young guys have proven they have the capability to help you win now...Have a little faith, we will be fine and the sky is still very much in the same place you left it yesterday.

They havent proven it though.

Granted, they havent been on the field much but again lets not count the chickens before they hatch. While the business decisions are all on the organization its a pretty risky move based on "what if" scenarios. Especially when you are telling the fanbase that we are in a "win now" instead of rebuilding. As far as the comment about the "sky" its irrelevant. Ive been a fan for over 35 years win or lose so im not going anywhere but as an organization just be honest about the direction you are going in. If we are rebuilding great, but quit pissing on my leg and telling me its raining already.

[Tned]

It's like they're allergic to qb talent.

They've seen a lot more of him than we've seen. They might either not feel he's ready now, or will ever be an NFL talent. If it's just about not being now, they may be hoping he lands on practice squad while they bring in a vet that can backup the team until Lynch is healthy.

[DenBronx]

@NickiJhabvala
3h
I'm told a pay cut was not discussed with Ward. Plan was to move on to to Justin Simmons and Will Parks. "It was a football decision."

They saved a few mill but got rid of a damn good safety. Terrible move!

[slim]

They havent proven it though.

Granted, they havent been on the field much but again lets not count the chickens before they hatch. While the business decisions are all on the organization its a pretty risky move based on "what if" scenarios. Especially when you are telling the fanbase that we are in a "win now" instead of rebuilding. As far as the comment about the "sky" its irrelevant. Ive been a fan for over 35 years win or lose so im not going anywhere but as an organization just be honest about the direction you are going in. If we are rebuilding great, but quit pissing on my leg and telling me its raining already.

I agree. I think we should have an honest evaluation. Pretending like every move the team makes is the right move is just silly.

[topscribe]

They saved a few mill but got rid of a damn good safety. Terrible move!
But then, there are those who believe the Broncos actually may have upgraded both positions, FS and SS . . .

https://www.milehighreport.com/2017/9/2/16246490/film-study-why-the-broncos-defense-will-be-fine-without-tj-ward

[Tned]

@MikeKlis
18s
Broncos waive OT Elijah Wilkinson with hopes of bringing him back to practice squad. #9sports

[Spiritguy]

Mike Klis (https://twitter.com/MikeKlis)

OT Elijah Wilkinson - waived

[GEM]

They've seen a lot more of him than we've seen. They might either not feel he's ready now, or will ever be an NFL talent. If it's just about not being now, they may be hoping he lands on practice squad while they bring in a vet that can backup the team until Lynch is healthy.

They're looking at Osweiler. Are they ******* dumb?

[DenBronx]

I do not want to see Oz or Kap here, both suck!

[GEM]

@MikeKlis
18s
Broncos waive OT Elijah Wilkinson with hopes of bringing him back to practice squad. #9sports








Why are you posting in black?

[Northman]

MHR... lmao

[topscribe]

They're looking at Osweiler. Are they ******* dumb?
Well, they're looking at him as a backup.

Trouble is, will that set well with Osweiler?

[Tned]

Why are you posting in black?

Normally I click the remove formatting button, must have misclicked.

[VonDoom]

Well, they're looking at him as a backup.

Trouble is, will that set well with Osweiler?

He's getting 16 million either way. Question is whether he wants to show his face in Denver again

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Kyle Sloter‏ @KyleSloter

Thank you to bronco country for all the support. Hopefully I'll be able to stick around in Denver. Next 24 hrs will be interesting.

[DenBronx]

Sloter is better than Oz, that's the issue. Lol

Oz is also a diva and can't play.

[sneakers]

Did our boy Sloter make the team?

[topscribe]

Klis says odds are in favor of Osweiler's return . . .

https://www.milehighreport.com/2017/9/2/16247144/klis-there-is-a-good-chance-brock-will-be-back

[slim]

Well, they're looking at him as a backup.

Trouble is, will that set well with Osweiler?

He was traded by a team that didn't have a QB and then released by the Browns....THE BROWNS!!!

He would be lucky to receive a job offer from the arena league at this point.

[topscribe]

Did our boy Sloter make the team?
Nope. Waived.

[sneakers]

Klis says odds are in favor of Osweiler's return . . .

https://www.milehighreport.com/2017/9/2/16247144/klis-there-is-a-good-chance-brock-will-be-back

Elway saved the team 70 million dollars by waiting a year

[Northman]

Did our boy Sloter make the team?

Yep, in fact he is the starter now. Siemian was traded.

[slim]

Did our boy Sloter make the team?

no.

[DenBronx]

They saved a few mill but got rid of a damn good safety. Terrible move!
But then, there are those who believe the Broncos actually may have upgraded both positions, FS and SS . . .

https://www.milehighreport.com/2017/9/2/16246490/film-study-why-the-broncos-defense-will-be-fine-without-tj-ward

Oh come on Top. Ward brings way more attitude to the defense then the our backup safeties.

[sneakers]

Nope. Waived.

http://i.imgur.com/hjvt253.jpg

[topscribe]

Yep, in fact he is the starter now. Siemian was traded.
And they were saying Jaded is worse than you. :tsk:

[sneakers]

Yep, in fact he is the starter now. Siemian was traded.

about ******* time

[Buff]

I don't mind bringing back Osweiler. I think people underestimate how difficult it is to play against defenses who are scheming against you in the regular season week after week. There is value in having a guy who has started so many games, knows how to read defenses (sometimes), has a big arm and can make all the throws - and we'd be getting him with a chip on his shoulder for league minimum.

I also don't like this idea that "he wasn't good enough to make the Browns roster." They have no incentive to keep him because he's not their starter of the future and they're rebuilding. He is well suited to play the backup role here - and hopefully in the meantime we can keep grooming Sloter on the PS.

[topscribe]

Oh come on Top. Ward brings way more attitude to the defense then the our backup safeties.
Don't shoot the messenger . . . :coffee:

[Northman]

And they were saying Jaded is worse than you. :tsk:

No, i said Jaded was worse than me. ******* not even giving me credit for my own snaps!

[topscribe]

I don't mind bringing back Osweiler. I think people underestimate how difficult it is to play against defenses who are scheming against you in the regular season week after week. There is value in having a guy who has started so many games, knows how to read defenses (sometimes), has a big arm and can make all the throws - and we'd be getting him with a chip on his shoulder for league minimum.

I also don't like this idea that "he wasn't good enough to make the Browns roster." They have no incentive to keep him because he's not their starter of the future and they're rebuilding. He is well suited to play the backup role here - and hopefully in the meantime we can keep grooming Sloter on the PS.
If Sloter makes it to the PS . . .

[slim]

I don't mind bringing back Osweiler. I think people underestimate how difficult it is to play against defenses who are scheming against you in the regular season week after week. There is value in having a guy who has started so many games, knows how to read defenses (sometimes), has a big arm and can make all the throws - and we'd be getting him with a chip on his shoulder for league minimum.

I also don't like this idea that "he wasn't good enough to make the Browns roster." They have no incentive to keep him because he's not their starter of the future and they're rebuilding. He is well suited to play the backup role here - and hopefully in the meantime we can keep grooming Sloter on the PS.

He also has nice hair.

[topscribe]

No, i said Jaded was worse than me. ******* not even giving me credit for my own snaps!
North, you're overrating me. I'm not about to give you credit on anything . . .

[Tned]

If Sloter makes it to the PS . . .

If not, we should hold off crying about spilled milk until we at least find out if it is in fact milk that was spilled.

[sneakers]

The broncos should just cut their loses and get rid of Lynch. Especially if they are bringing back Brockembe. Lynch doesn't look comfortable at all playing quarterback. Cut him.

[sneakers]

If not, we should hold off crying about spilled milk until we at least find out if it is in fact milk that was spilled.

:noidea:

[Tned]

The broncos should just cut their loses and get rid of Lynch. Especially if they are bringing back Brockembe. Lynch doesn't look comfortable at all playing quarterback. Cut him.

Lynch was a first round project who's just completed his second training camp and would come with a $3.8 million cap hit. Cutting him makes no sense on many levels.

[slim]

:noidea:

Milk is an opaque white fluid rich in fat and protein, secreted by female mammals for the nourishment of their young.

[topscribe]

Broncos give T.J. a big thank you. T.J. shows graciousness . . .

https://www.milehighreport.com/2017/9/2/16246792/broncos-thank-t-j-ward-for-his-time-with-team

[Davii]

I really hope Sloter makes it through to the PS. I'd like to see what he's got with a year of experience and coaching.

[Northman]

Lynch was a first round project who's just completed his second training camp and would come with a $3.8 million cap hit. Cutting him makes no sense on many levels.

All true but he is right in the sense that Lynch has looked very bad this year, he looks way to indecisive and scared out there. You would expect that from him in his first year, not going into the second.

[VonDoom]

https://twitter.com/cecillammey/status/904074623192637441

[slim]

https://twitter.com/cecillammey/status/904074623192637441

Shocking.

[Tned]

Milk is an opaque white fluid rich in fat and protein, secreted by female mammals for the nourishment of their young.

And sometimes, in a once in a hundred million times range, that substance eventually transforms into an NFL player.

[Northman]

https://twitter.com/cecillammey/status/904074623192637441

Not shocking.

[Tned]

All true but he is right in the sense that Lynch has looked very bad this year, he looks way to indecisive and scared out there. You would expect that from him in his first year, not going into the second.

Preaching to the choir here, I'm the one that was abused all of last year and this offseason for dare state that Siemian was a better option than Lynch.

That said, it's too soon to cut the losses on Lynch.

[topscribe]

https://twitter.com/cecillammey/status/904074623192637441
Even as a not-too-bright fan, I could have told them that they weren't going to hide Sloter . . .

[Tned]

@CecilLammey
12s
Sources indicate #Broncos decision to waive Kyle Sloter was partly due to not wanting a rookie 1 hit away. Wasn't groomed for backup role

[pnbronco]

Klis says odds are in favor of Osweiler's return . . .

https://www.milehighreport.com/2017/9/2/16247144/klis-there-is-a-good-chance-brock-will-be-back

I was trying to post a screaming are you kidding me and hit the wrong button. I can't believe they cut Sloter and if they bring back Oz I'm going to really loose it. Oz was figured out in no time, he's a diva, he thought he was better than the team....threw a fit over Peyton Manning a HOF coming back in.....are you kidding me!!!!! Sloter with very little experience is already better and could get better with some work. Oh man I hate today!!!!! I just hate it and thought well maybe this one year it will be OK. NOOOOOOO!!!!!

[Tned]

@CecilLammey
58s
Sources indicate #Broncos really want Kyle Sloter. IMO a huge risk to expose him to other teams, especially with his preseason performance.

[pnbronco]

Even as a not-too-bright fan, I could have told them that they weren't going to hide Sloter . . .

Big shock!!!! Idiots....yeah one hit away, but work with the kid and he has only gotten better.....I'm so ticked off.

[slim]

I was trying to post a screaming are you kidding me and hit the wrong button. I can't believe they cut Sloter and if they bring back Oz I'm going to really loose it. Oz was figured out in no time, he's a diva, he thought he was better than the team....threw a fit over Peyton Manning a HOF coming back in.....are you kidding me!!!!! Sloter with very little experience is already better and could get better with some work. Oh man I hate today!!!!! I just hate it and thought well maybe this one year it will be OK. NOOOOOOO!!!!!

It's going to be a long year. I think we should hold each other.

[VonDoom]

@CecilLammey
58s
Sources indicate #Broncos really want Kyle Sloter. IMO a huge risk to expose him to other teams, especially with his preseason performance.









We've been saying this for weeks

[topscribe]

I was trying to post a screaming are you kidding me and hit the wrong button. I can't believe they cut Sloter and if they bring back Oz I'm going to really loose it. Oz was figured out in no time, he's a diva, he thought he was better than the team....threw a fit over Peyton Manning a HOF coming back in.....are you kidding me!!!!! Sloter with very little experience is already better and could get better with some work. Oh man I hate today!!!!! I just hate it and thought well maybe this one year it will be OK. NOOOOOOO!!!!!
Deep breath, my friend. Deep breath. :)

[pnbronco]

@CecilLammey
58s
Sources indicate #Broncos really want Kyle Sloter. IMO a huge risk to expose him to other teams, especially with his preseason performance.









exactly.....he was rated over Lynch by Ryan Harris and Big Al who rarely agree on anything. Lammey said some really good things about him yesterday and is a major Lynch supporter. He said we need to keep him on the roster. He's better than about 2/3's of the backups right now with very little experience. WOW

[pnbronco]

It's going to be a long year. I think we should hold each other.

Maybe tomorrow, but today I'm just going to be pissed. idiots

[topscribe]

@CecilLammey
58s
Sources indicate #Broncos really want Kyle Sloter. IMO a huge risk to expose him to other teams, especially with his preseason performance.





They're not going to have a QB who had a 110 passer rating in the last game to make it through waivers. Kiss Sloter goodbye . . .

[Tned]

exactly.....he was rated over Lynch by Ryan Harris and Big Al who rarely agree on anything. Lammey said some really good things about him yesterday and is a major Lynch supporter. He said we need to keep him on the roster. He's better than about 2/3's of the backups right now with very little experience. WOW

I love Lammey, but considering how far off the mark he was all last year and this offseason on Lynch, I think we need to take his QB evaluation with a grain of salt. He's a smart guy, but tends to fall in love with players.

Don't get me wrong, I was hoping the Broncos would roll the dice, HUGE roll of the dice, and keep Sloter and just pray Siemian didn't get hurt, but if they want to have a legit shot at winning this year, it would be a stupid move, which is why they waived him.

[Tned]

They're not going to have a QB who had a 110 passer rating in the last game to make it through waivers. Kiss Sloter goodbye . . .

If Sloter is tearing it up on an NFL team in a few years, then I'll be bummed about it. Between now and then, I'm not going to lose much sleep.

[Tned]

@MikeKlis
9s
QB Chad Kelly on NFI. WR Carlos Henderson on IR. DL Shelby Harris has not been cut and it's past 2 p.m. so it sounds good for him. #9sports

[LawDog]

The way I read this is that Sloter is free to sign or not sign with any team. Unless some other team signs him to their 53, he will be back on Broncos PS. What teams out there will offer him a spot on their 53?

Also, Brock is now a vested vet right? If so and he signs with Denver and is on roster week 1, Denver will owe him his full year salary - at least the portion of his $16m that Denver pays as Cleveland is on the hook regardless. It seems pretty complicated, but it may be that Denver can get him as a backup with very little exposure.

[VonDoom]

I love Lammey, but considering how far off the mark he was all last year and this offseason on Lynch, I think we need to take his QB evaluation with a grain of salt. He's a smart guy, but tends to fall in love with players.

Don't get me wrong, I was hoping the Broncos would roll the dice, HUGE roll of the dice, and keep Sloter and just pray Siemian didn't get hurt, but if they want to have a legit shot at winning this year, it would be a stupid move, which is why they waived him.

Disagree. That's shortsighted by the team. If they think Sloter has talent, they should have kept him. If Siemian gets hurt, Osweiler sucks (as does Lynch) so there is no more of a "legit" shot of winning with those guys than there would have been with Sloter

[topscribe]

Disagree. That's shortsighted by the team. If they think Sloter has talent, they should have kept him. If Siemian gets hurt, Osweiler sucks (as does Lynch) so there is no more of a "legit" shot of winning with those guys than there would have been with Sloter
I keep hearing how the team should have and should not have done this or that.
As Tned alluded, they're closer to the situation than we are . . .

[Tned]

The way I read this is that Sloter is free to sign or not sign with any team. Unless some other team signs him to their 53, he will be back on Broncos PS. What teams out there will offer him a spot on their 53?

Also, Brock is now a vested vet right? If so and he signs with Denver and is on roster week 1, Denver will owe him his full year salary - at least the portion of his $16m that Denver pays as Cleveland is on the hook regardless. It seems pretty complicated, but it may be that Denver can get him as a backup with very little exposure.

Correct. One of three things can happen with Sloter:

He's claimed off of waivers by a team and then will have to go to their 53 man roster for some period of time (can't remember how long
He makes it through waivers and agrees to sign with the Broncos to be on their practice squad
He makes it through waivers and decides instead to sign with a different team and be placed on their practice squad.


Assuming Brock is willing to, then he could sign for vet minimum, which I think with his tenure would be $775k, which the Broncos "might" be obligate to pay. The reason I say might, is since Cleveland is on the hook for $16 million regardless, which is well above vet minimum, and anything any other club pays Cleveland just gets to offset/reduce their obligation by, there is a chance that the Broncos could release Brock and not be on the hook for the rest of the $775, because Cleveland would still pay him that.

I've never seen this situation before, so I don't really know how the guaranteed salary comes into play when another club owes a player 20 times the vet minimum.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Troy Renck‏Verified account @TroyRenck 21s

#Steelers could be landing spot for @BossWard43. Hearing could be some interest there. He will land on his feet.

[topscribe]

Correct. One of three things can happen with Sloter:

He's claimed off of waivers by a team and then will have to go to their 53 man roster for some period of time (can't remember how long
He makes it through waivers and agrees to sign with the Broncos to be on their practice squad
He makes it through waivers and decides instead to sign with a different team and be placed on their practice squad.


Assuming Brock is willing to, then he could sign for vet minimum, which I think with his tenure would be $775k, which the Broncos "might" be obligate to pay. The reason I say might, is since Cleveland is on the hook for $16 million regardless, which is well above vet minimum, and anything any other club pays Cleveland just gets to offset/reduce their obligation by, there is a chance that the Broncos could release Brock and not be on the hook for the rest of the $775, because Cleveland would still pay him that.

I've never seen this situation before, so I don't really know how the guaranteed salary comes into play when another club owes a player 20 times the vet minimum.
But if a player refuses a team who claimed him off waivers, is he still bound to that team?

[Freyaka]

They havent proven it though.

Granted, they havent been on the field much but again lets not count the chickens before they hatch. While the business decisions are all on the organization its a pretty risky move based on "what if" scenarios. Especially when you are telling the fanbase that we are in a "win now" instead of rebuilding. As far as the comment about the "sky" its irrelevant. Ive been a fan for over 35 years win or lose so im not going anywhere but as an organization just be honest about the direction you are going in. If we are rebuilding great, but quit pissing on my leg and telling me its raining already.

Not to you, but the coaches see a hell of a lot more than we do. Just have some faith man, all will be well

[Tned]

But if a player refuses a team who claimed him off waivers, is he still bound to that team?

In option 1, then they have his rights and take over the existing contract, which is three years long, and the only option would be to sit out, which no UDFA is likely to do.

In options 2 and 3, he becomes a free agent, with no contract in force, and he can choose to go to any team, practice squad or roster, that offers him a spot on either.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

If Osweiler does land here, I would think it has more to do with McCoy pushing for him.

[Mike]

If Sloter is tearing it up on an NFL team in a few years, then I'll be bummed about it. Between now and then, I'm not going to lose much sleep.

He clearly outplayed Lynch. If Lynch played like Sloter did then he would be the starter today. Elway made a mistake...and it is even bigger if the cut is just to bring in a bum like Osweiller.

[topscribe]

If Osweiler does land here, I would think it has more to do with McCoy pushing for him.
Well, it'll likely be largely because Osweiler is familiar with McCoy's system . . .

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Troy Renck Retweeted
Mike McCartney‏Verified account @MikeMcCartney7 10m

My annual tweet on the "Final Cutdown Day: there are no "final" NFL rosters. Rosters are fluid. Many changes coming, especially tomorrow.

[Northman]

He clearly outplayed Lynch. If Lynch played like Sloter did then he would be the starter today. Elway made a mistake...and it is even bigger if the cut is just to bring in a bum like Osweiller.

You do have a point there. Even though Sloter played against scrubs so did Lynch and he didnt look good vs them either. It was night and day between those two. People have stated in the past that where a player has been drafted doesnt make a difference but it clearly does when it comes to opportunities with a team.

[Valar Morghulis]

People have stated in the past that where a player has been drafted doesnt make a difference but it clearly does when it comes to opportunities with a team.

This

[Tned]

You do have a point there. Even though Sloter played against scrubs so did Lynch and he didnt look good vs them either. It was night and day between those two. People have stated in the past that where a player has been drafted doesnt make a difference but it clearly does when it comes to opportunities with a team.

Actually, most on here have taken the position that where they are drafted absolutely factor into the chances the team should give them on the field. If that wasn't the case, then it wouldn't have been an open QB competition this year and they wouldn't have wasted the preseason on that and instead focused on getting Siemian and the starters ready for the season as a unit.

You have to remember that most of the reports coming out of training camp, when Sloter was going against our defense, has been pretty bad.

I'm hoping somehow he winds up on PS, because I really liked what I saw in the games, but am not at all surprised they didn't keep him on the roster with Lynch hurt.

[Mike]

And. Here. We. Go.

https://twitter.com/MaryKayCabot?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.orangemane.com%2FBB%2Fsho wthread.php%3Ft%3D127778%26page%3D14

Can confirm the #Broncos are signing former #Browns quarterback Brock Osweiler. It will provide a little break on the $16M guarantee

[Joel]

Dont know if he is better as he has never played against better players but we have already seen what Oz can do after 5 years in the league so i think he has hit his ceiling. At least with Sloter there is a chance of untapped potential that i would be curious to see.
Whole lot of that, mixed with Oz getting pissy and bolting a starting job offered on a silver platter just because it wasn't offered SOON ENOUGH. I'm starting to buy into the claims Elway just has a hard on for raw baseketball playing QBs over, y'know, ACTUAL QBs. And for proving those mistakes weren't REALLY mistakes. Draft position becomes irrelevant the first day of camp: After that, it's all about who's performing so you can win games once they count.

This whole thing just baffles me: We get Oz back, Cleveland probably gets Sloter, and Schottenheimer, Kosar and Byner get vengeance. :( Sorry, Elway, but Oz has had 6 preseasons with half as many teams: If he were EVER going to become A Real Boy, he'd have long ago done so.

[LawDog]

That ******* giraffe better be humble AF and do exactly what he is told.

[VonDoom]

I haven't been this disappointed in this team since the loss to the Colts in the 2014 playoffs. What a ******* shit show today has been

[Tned]

Cabot is a Cleavland beat reporter:

[Northman]

I haven't been this disappointed in this team since the loss to the Colts in the 2014 playoffs. What a ******* shit show today has been

My feelings as well.

[Northman]

What a shitty ******* way to kick off a long weekend. Good grief.

[Tned]

@MikeKlis
now
CB Chris Lewis-Harris is released. #9sports

[Tned]

What a shitty ******* way to kick off a long weekend. Good grief.

I'm ok with it, I think it was a smart move and puts them in a much better position to make a playoff run, whether Brock is long term backup or is released/takes back seat to Lynch when he's healthy. I think Brock would likely be a better backup than Lynch for the rest of the year.

[Freyaka]

http://rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7450/brock-osweiler

It's official now fellas. Brocks back.

[VonDoom]

@MikeKlis
now
CB Chris Lewis-Harris is released. #9sports









I guess Doss made the team

[Mike]

I'm ok with it, I think it was a smart move and puts them in a much better position to make a playoff run, whether Brock is long term backup or is released/takes back seat to Lynch when he's healthy. I think Brock would likely be a better backup than Lynch for the rest of the year.

Syphilis or chlamydia

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I'm ok with it, I think it was a smart move and puts them in a much better position to make a playoff run, whether Brock is long term backup or is released/takes back seat to Lynch when he's healthy. I think Brock would likely be a better backup than Lynch for the rest of the year.
Well, Brock has far more experience. To me, that is Lynch's major drawback right now . . .

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter 3m

One personnel director just predicted that he believes Sunday will see "a record amount of waiver claims." So final rosters are not final.

[Tned]

Syphilis or chlamydia

I'll admit to not being an expert on those. I'm pretty sure one could drive you mad (would that be Lynch). If I had to get one, I guess whichever one can be cured with antibiotics...

[topscribe]

http://rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7450/brock-osweiler

It's official now fellas. Brocks back.
That has been a surprise to me. They. Were. Not. on good terms when he left . . .

[Northman]

I wonder how much Oz will get booed come gameday. I wonder if he will get the Kyle Orton treatment. lol

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet 18m

#Browns will pay QB Brock Osweiler $16M, minus the minimum salary the #Broncos are expected to pay him. Slightly better value for Denver.

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I wonder how much Oz will get booed come gameday. I wonder if he will get the Kyle Orton treatment. lol
Maybe a few scattered. I'm hoping most fans will root for the team, of which Brock is now a part . . .

[Nomad]

I guess the BRONCOS FO is kicking and screaming today.

[Tned]

Maybe a few scattered. I'm hoping most fans will root for the team, of which Brock is now a part . . .

I feel like i'm on a bit of an island being pretty content with the Broncos moves today, including bringing Oz in as backup.

[Northman]

Maybe a few scattered. I'm hoping most fans will root for the team, of which Brock is now a part . . .

Meh, some players dont deserve it. I would never root for a player if i didnt like him. Good thing is Oz is a backup so i hope we rub his nose in it.

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I feel like i'm on a bit of an island being pretty content with the Broncos moves today, including bringing Oz in as backup.
It's not like we have any choice. Just root for the team; that's our part . . .

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Nicki Jhabvala‏Verified account @NickiJhabvala

Broncos have cut veteran CB Chris Lewis-Harris.

[Timmy!]

I hadn't mentioned it, but Amber actually met Oz's father about a month ago at her work and bullshitted with him for a bit. He said Oz regretted leaving Denver badly within a week and hated Houston. He knew he screwed up. Him ending up in Denver would not shock me.

#justnostratimmythings

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Nicki Jhabvala‏Verified account @NickiJhabvala

Broncos have cut veteran CB Chris Lewis-Harris.
This may be the deepest Broncos team I've ever seen . . .

[slim]

This may be the deepest Broncos team I've ever seen . . .

lol

[Joel]

Also, for those on the cut Lynch instead of Sloter, besides the fact that Sloter might make it to the practice squad
Yeah, right...


and Lynch wouldn't, cutting Lynch would also come with a $3.8 million cap hit. So, not only are you giving up early on a 2-3 year project, you are taking a healthy cap hit to do so.
Oh, I totally agree with that, and had already thought about the 4-year contract as well as the cap hit. The flip side is that being under contract through 2019 also makes Lynch more attractive tradebait for a QB-desperate team. Regardless, I was never onboard with throwing in the towel on a guy we always knew to be a raw project with distant but potentially huge upside: I just never understood why carrying 3 QBs was such a terrible idea when even most teams who DO have proven starters do it.


What if the young guys have proven they have the capability to help you win now...
Right: That's why we cut Sloter and re-signed Oz. ;)


Kyle Sloter‏ @KyleSloter

Thank you to bronco country for all the support. Hopefully I'll be able to stick around in Denver. Next 24 hrs will be interesting.
That's kind of sad too: Even though we cut him, it's not up to him whether he goes on our PS, because when (not if) he's claimed off waivers he must do as told.


Well, it'll likely be largely because Osweiler is familiar with McCoy's system . . .
So are Orton and Tebow: Big deal. It's not like McCoys "system" is some hypercomplexity (which neither Oz nor Lynch could run anyway.) It's pretty much just "do whatever you already do well anyway; don't do anything you suck at." Pretty much every QB can "master" that "system" quickly.

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lol
I've seen them all since 1959 . . .

[dogfish]

@MikeKlis
now
Talked to 2 player sources who said they expect Broncos to zero in on Osweiler once he's officially available. Kudos to Elway. #9sports

effing stupidity. . . who let elway and russell get into the sauce?

[slim]

I've seen them all since 1959 . . .

It may be time for a thicker set of glasses

[Nomad]

Sorry, Siemian, but your days are numbered.

[Joel]

Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter 3m

One personnel director just predicted that he believes Sunday will see "a record amount of waiver claims." So final rosters are not final.
One personnel director has a keen for the obvious: The first time they combined two-round cutdowns into single-round cutdowns mathematically guaranteed record cuts, making record waiver claims nearly as certain. We still can't PS a QB outperforming most of the ones who HAVEN'T been cut (yet...).

[Northman]

Sorry, Siemian, but your days are numbered.

Its Elway's ploy to have Siemian replaced by the guy he wanted all along. Super Giraffe!