Raiders Sign Carr to an absurd deal

[Freyaka]

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/359162/carrs-deal-contains-$40m-fully-guaranteed?ls=roto:OAK:topheadlines

The deal is 5 years $125 million with a total of $70M guaranteed and $40M in fully guaranteed money.

I think it's a bit early to be throwing that kind of money at a kid coming off of one good year and a major injury. Mack is due a deal soon, will they have enough to pay him after paying Carr?

[BroncoWave]

In today's NFL, it would be absurd not to give a young stud QB that kind of deal. 32 out of 32 teams would have done the same.

[MOtorboat]

That doesn't sound absurd at all.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

2015 was a good year. 2016 was an exceptional year.

[BeefStew25]

He has the most beautiful eyes.

[turftoad]

He's one of the best young up and comers. He's going to give us fits for years to come.
He deserves it.

[Davii]

I'd take him one our squad, no doubt. I do, however, hope that becomes an absurd contract for him, but appears to be market value at this point.

[Timmy!]

He's a top 5 QB.

[Hawgdriver]

He's easily the best QB in the game right now in terms of future value. This is not news.

[slim]

2015 was a good year. 2016 was an exceptional year.

He was marginally better in 2016 than he was in 2015.

Do you guys remember Dante Culpepper?

[MOtorboat]

He's easily the best QB in the game right now in terms of future value. This is not news.

Any quarterback contract is news.

[Hawgdriver]

Any quarterback contract is news.

omg mr. semantics.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

He was marginally better in 2016 than he was in 2015.

Do you guys remember Dante Culpepper?

Yes, I also remember the fall season in Tennessee.

[Devilspawn]

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/359162/carrs-deal-contains-$40m-fully-guaranteed?ls=roto:OAK:topheadlines

The deal is 5 years $125 million with a total of $70M guaranteed and $40M in fully guaranteed money.

I think it's a bit early to be throwing that kind of money at a kid coming off of one good year and a major injury. Mack is due a deal soon, will they have enough to pay him after paying Carr?
They had no choice. The market dictates salary, not the play sadly. But I think he deserves "back pay" for getting us out from between the breads of a turd sandwich.

[Devilspawn]

He was marginally better in 2016 than he was in 2015.

Do you guys remember Dante Culpepper?
What kind of member berries are you eating?

[turftoad]

They had no choice. The market dictates salary, not the play sadly. But I think he deserves "back pay" for getting us out from between the breads of a turd sandwich.

I agree buddy! He's an up and comer. I love his gun slinger style. He's gonna be a good one for years to come.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Don't be surprised if he takes the mantle from Aaron Rogers within two years.

[FanInAZ]

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/359162/carrs-deal-contains-$40m-fully-guaranteed?ls=roto:OAK:topheadlines

The deal is 5 years $125 million with a total of $70M guaranteed and $40M in fully guaranteed money.

I think it's a bit early to be throwing that kind of money at a kid coming off of one good year and a major injury. Mack is due a deal soon, will they have enough to pay him after paying Carr?

1) Just because the Raiders have had only 1 good year since he became their starter 3 years ago doesn't mean that he was as bad as his team. He wasn't his teams problem, he was the exception on a team filled with more holes then a screen door. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CarrDe02.htm

2) From the link you sited in the OP:


Those numbers put him below Andrew Luck, but he did edge him out in average annual value.

So do you believe that Luck > Carr?

[Northman]

Its a lot of money for a guy who hasnt even won a playoff game yet but the Raiders were in a tight spot and had to take a gamble on him because of potential.

[FanInAZ]

Its a lot of money for a guy who hasnt even won a playoff game yet but the Raiders were in a tight spot and had to take a gamble on him because of potential.

Contrary to popular opinion, the QB isn't solely responsible for wins & losses. He hasn't won a play-off game yet because he had lousy teammates his 1st 2 seasons costing him the opportunity to even play in a play-off game, & got injured his last.

[Northman]

Contrary to popular opinion, the QB isn't solely responsible for wins & losses. He hasn't won a play-off game yet because he had lousy teammates his 1st 2 seasons costing him the opportunity to even play in a play-off game, & got injured his last.

Well duh.

[BroncoWave]

Its a lot of money for a guy who hasnt even won a playoff game yet but the Raiders were in a tight spot and had to take a gamble on him because of potential.

He literally couldn't have won a playoff game last year because he was injured. They would have mopped the Texans with him.

[MasterShake]

Considering that if you take away the Manning era the Broncos haven't had a true franchise QB since Elway I don't see that as a bad deal at all. Of course the money is ridiculous, but that goes without saying. The fact that they did the deal doesn't surprise me.

[Valar Morghulis]

This is a good bit of business by the raiders, avoids problems in the future, shows the player he is valued, and will be cheaper than what they would need to pay in a few years

[BroncoWave]

This is a good bit of business by the raiders, avoids problems in the future, shows the player he is valued, and will be cheaper than what they would need to pay in a few years

This is a really good point. The price tag only goes up every year they wait, so probably best to lock him in as soon as possible.

[BeefStew25]

Hot takes all around.

[Freyaka]

You guys suck at talking smack...

I put this in smack so we could all mock and laugh at the raiders and ya'll are like "oh good job! Great move!"

[Davii]

You guys suck at talking smack...

I put this in smack so we could all mock and laugh at the raiders and ya'll are like "oh good job! Great move!"

We're realistic trolls.

[BeefStew25]

You guys suck at talking smack...

I put this in smack so we could all mock and laugh at the raiders and ya'll are like "oh good job! Great move!"

We can't. We have QB envy.

[Freyaka]

We can't. We have QB envy.

I'm still not 100 percent sold on him yet. Lets see what he does without Musgrave and after coming off a serious injury. He had one strong year and one just ok year. It's entirely possible he ends up worth the money they paid him, but I think they would have been smarter to wait a little longer and at least see if he bounces back. Now they are stuck with him.

[BeefStew25]

Don't you think he has pretty eyes?

10630

[Freyaka]

Don't you think he has pretty eyes?

10630

He looks like he wears eye-liner... Plus, I'm not really into dudes eyes. Just not my cup'o'tea ya know. To each their own, but he seriously looks like he's wearing guy liner (in fact, I frequently call him Captain Guy-liner)

[BeefStew25]

He looks like he wears eye-liner... Plus, I'm not really into dudes eyes. Just not my cup'o'tea ya know. To each their own, but he seriously looks like he's wearing guy liner (in fact, I frequently call him Captain Guy-liner)

I hate watching him get sacked because I don't want him to get hurt.

[OrangeHoof]

He's the enemy so if they overspent on him, I'm happy for that but I don't think this contract is anywhere near as obscene as Ja'Marcus Russell's. If the Faid get back the real Beast Mode, Carr is going to be even tougher to handle.

[BroncoJoe]

Don't you think he has pretty eyes?

10630

Dreamy.

[Freyaka]

http://i.imgur.com/3kG8UqM.png

[slim]

What kind of member berries are you eating?

Perhaps a review of his stats are in order.

He wears eye liner.

[Northman]

Perhaps a review of his stats are in order.

He wears eye liner.

This is maybe what you are referring to.

http://www.12up.com/posts/5179041-these-stats-definitively-proves-derek-carr-is-overrated?a_aid=41091

[slim]

This is maybe what you are referring to.

http://www.12up.com/posts/5179041-these-stats-definitively-proves-derek-carr-is-overrated?a_aid=41091

The hype machine is out of control.

He is good, but lets maybe keep it in our pants until he actually accomplishes something

[BeefStew25]

He fine.

[Nomad]

When is his first Maybeline commercial? :D

[Nomad]

You guys suck at talking smack...

I put this in smack so we could all mock and laugh at the raiders and ya'll are like "oh good job! Great move!"

Yep! It got serious right off the bat.

I would hope we all want him to be the next Russell after the big payday.

[Freyaka]

Yep! It got serious right off the bat.

I would hope we all want him to be the next Russell after the big payday.

Right, we're supposed to be all like FTR!!! instead we're gazing longingly into Carr's eyes :D

[Northman]

Im not, fook the Faid and Carr.