Broncos 2017 Draftday(s) Thread: 04/27-04/29

[Ziggy]

OK give me Grover Stewart, Jake Butt, and Jeremy McNichols and call it a day.

[G_Money]

They want RBs with PS eligibility, and Bibbs was out. It's easier to shuttle some of those guys back and forth off the practice squad in case of injury instead of leaving em on the active roster, especially if we're carrying a FB. I expect to draft a RB and pick up another in UDFA - but Elway likes to surprise me.

[G_Money]

OK give me Grover Stewart, Jake Butt, and Jeremy McNichols and call it a day.

Don't tease.

[DT88TheGreat]

I really can't believe butt is still on the board, but honestly he only looks a bit better than huerrman on tape, they appear to be the same players to me. Only huerrman can't stay healthy it seems. Does butt have injury history?

[Northman]

OK give me Grover Stewart, Jake Butt, and Jeremy McNichols and call it a day.

My only question here is if these guys are so great why are they dropping or rated so low?

[Northman]

I really can't believe butt is still on the board, but honestly he only looks a bit better than huerrman on tape, they appear to be the same players to me. Only huerrman can't stay healthy it seems. Does butt have injury history?

He isnt that great. He's an adequate TE but not a world burner.

[Ziggy]

My only question here is if these guys are so great why are they dropping or rated so low?

Butt because of a torn ACL, Stewart because he's a small school guy, and McNichol's because of size.

[G_Money]

My only question here is if these guys are so great why are they dropping or rated so low?

Happens every year. It was a deep RB draft so that later tier of RBs is falling, Butt has injury woes, Stewart is small-school. It's not like they were out molesting sheep or someting.

[Northman]

Butt because of a torn ACL, Stewart because he's a small school guy, and McNichol's because of size.

Then it sounds like if Denver is going to take any of them that they are approaching it the correct way and possibly drafting them where they are valued at this point.

[weazel]

WoW. Osweiler traded to Cleveland. What a offed up move by the Texans to begin with to acquire him.

I'm really worried about nomad.

[DT88TheGreat]

My only question here is if these guys are so great why are they dropping or rated so low?

When you get to this stage of the draft guys are less than almost sure thing's, and sometimes scouts just miss, which happens a lot. You can either get a role player, a bust, or a absolute steal at this point. Just gotta snag the right guy's who are going to come in and work harder than everyone on there craft and atleast contribute if not grow into a steal.

[LTC Pain]

They probably didn't think he could beat out Bernard Pierce.

And we have Janovich on the roster.

[G_Money]

He isnt that great. He's an adequate TE but not a world burner.

He's Owen Daniels, not Antonio Gates. But if the ACL fix is good, then he should be in the league for quite a while even if he doesn't exactly wow you. I'm interested to see if Denver will take a project guy at TE like they did at OT, betting on upside over technique and injury concerns. Of course, THEY'D HAVE TO DRAFT A TE FOR ME TO FIND OUT. Sunofa...

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Butt because of a torn ACL, Stewart because he's a small school guy, and McNichol's because of size.

McNichols might be 215, but at 5'9" he's pretty stout and has proven over the last two years he can carry a load.

The reports of him going down with arm tackles are a result of lazy scouting.

He would go down with arm tackles at times when he was down field changing direction and someone would catch him from an angle he wasn't aware of, but he was plenty effective between the tackles at Boise

[Rick]

Green's combine numbers were just as good as Howard's if I remember.

Maybe for some reason they think with the new offense they can get the numbers from him, though I think he had his shot last year. great preseason, disappeared during the season.

[Hawgdriver]

So we moved down 19 picks and traded Kapri Bibbs for a theoretically-highish 4th rounder next year.

We had 127 and 177, and now we have 145 and 175. Losing the 2nd-to-last 7th rounder means nothing. It's just an UDFA.

Hardly means nothing! Rights before UDFA opens up are relevant. I don't get why people say those picks are pointless...they are next to pointless.

[DT88TheGreat]

Then it sounds like if Denver is going to take any of them that they are approaching it the correct way and possibly drafting them where they are valued at this point.

People were fine with reaching for Butt in the 2nd and 3rd because he's one of there guys. But reality is butt looks no better than huerrman to me. And I had high hopes for Herrmann, hoping he's done with the injuries because he can block and he's pretty good speed when he gets rolling. The couple plays he had streaking across the field on some deep post was good flashes, and then it disappeared.

I think elway appears to be fine sith darby, Herrmann and green.....

[G_Money]

Hardly means nothing! Rights before UDFA opens up are relevant. I don't get why people say those picks are pointless...they are next to pointless.

LOL we have the pick right after that. If there's a guy we desperately want to add to the roster without having to call around as a UDFA, we can still take him. But yes, NEXT TO pointless I guess.

[Northman]

When you get to this stage of the draft guys are less than almost sure thing's, and sometimes scouts just miss, which happens a lot. You can either get a role player, a bust, or a absolute steal at this point. Just gotta snag the right guy's who are going to come in and work harder than everyone on there craft and atleast contribute if not grow into a steal.

Of course, but the way some people are talking is that these guys are "cant miss" athletes but the way the draft is unfolding would state otherwise. As GMoney said, its not like they have off the field issues. I dont agree that the RB's were all that deep and i think thats when people make mistakes in their evaluations. You basically have your top tier players and then the rest, for me its Fournette, McCaffery, Cook, and then everyone else. Granted, in this day and age its running back by committee so the emphasis on RB isnt as important as it once was but at this stage Denver could take just about any RB and it would most likely be the same level of talent.

[DT88TheGreat]

He's Owen Daniels, not Antonio Gates. But if the ACL fix is good, then he should be in the league for quite a while even if he doesn't exactly wow you. I'm interested to see if Denver will take a project guy at TE like they did at OT, betting on upside over technique and injury concerns. Of course, THEY'D HAVE TO DRAFT A TE FOR ME TO FIND OUT. Sunofa...

Bolles is not a project though, they already said he's the day one starter.

[Northman]

He's Owen Daniels, not Antonio Gates. But if the ACL fix is good, then he should be in the league for quite a while even if he doesn't exactly wow you. I'm interested to see if Denver will take a project guy at TE like they did at OT, betting on upside over technique and injury concerns. Of course, THEY'D HAVE TO DRAFT A TE FOR ME TO FIND OUT. Sunofa...

Agreed.

Unfortunately this year i was really hoping for a difference maker. As much grief as i give Thomas he was able to exploit defenses and i want Denver to find that kind of guy again only with a better work ethic.

[G_Money]

Bolles is not a project though, they already said he's the day one starter.

I dunno why you think a project TE still couldn't be a day one starter. The Broncos has a bunch of JAGs at TE. Heuerman has the inside edge but we're one trip over a suitcase from being back to Green. TE is wiiide open.

[DT88TheGreat]

Of course, but the way some people are talking is that these guys are "cant miss" athletes but the way the draft is unfolding would state otherwise. As GMoney said, its not like they have off the field issues. I dont agree that the RB's were all that deep and i think thats when people make mistakes in their evaluations. You basically have your top tier players and then the rest, for me its Fournette, McCaffery, Cook, and then everyone else. Granted, in this day and age its running back by committee so the emphasis on RB isnt as important as it once was but at this stage Denver could take just about any RB and it would most likely be the same level of talent.

I don't know why or who would call anyone in these 4th-7th round ranges cant miss lol. Some of the RBs still left can come in and contribute but I don't see any csnt miss special guy's left. Unless that (steal) manifest.

[G_Money]

Agreed.

Unfortunately this year i was really hoping for a difference maker. As much grief as i give Thomas he was able to exploit defenses and i want Denver to find that kind of guy again only with a better work ethic.

Hodges or Leggett are still there with that athletic upside to mess with defenses.

[DT88TheGreat]

I dunno why you think a project TE still couldn't be a day one starter. The Broncos has a bunch of JAGs at TE. Heuerman has the inside edge but we're one trip over a suitcase from being back to Green. TE is wiiide open.

What project tight end available is going to beat out green, huerrman and darby honestly? The special tightends who would have blown them away in competition are all gone.

[Hawgdriver]

Any thoughts on picking up Asiata, Bolle's neighbor on the line at Utah?

[Northman]

Any thoughts on picking up Asiata, Bolle's neighbor on the line at Utah?

Sounds good to me.

[Hawgdriver]

Hodges or Leggett are still there with that athletic upside to mess with defenses.

G, you got an opinion on (s)Kittle(s), the Iowa underwear olympian?

[Hawgdriver]

Sounds good to me.

I was hoping they would go crazy on the offensive line picks, and see what sticks.

[G_Money]

G, you got an opinion on (s)Kittle(s), the Iowa underwear olympian?

I like all Iowa TEs for their ability to block no matter their size. If we didn't have our FB already I'd find him an interesting H-Back option with the ability to go out and line/chip block or play sooome TE. Dunno that I believe he can play out there full time, but he can be a package player. It really depends what we wanna do with our TE.

[G_Money]

There goes Mack.

[Northman]

THere goes Marlon Mack

[G_Money]

Dammit colts

[Northman]

Broncos up

[Ziggy]

Butt

[Hawgdriver]

THere goes Marlon Mack

I didn't want him. Sorry! Big fumbler.

[LTC Pain]

Butt

Yep.

[Ziggy]

Let the Butt jokes begin.

[G_Money]

THERE we go. So we went with the injury redshirt (I don't think he'll be ready by the start of the season) but I like Butt's talent. He can do basically everything, and if he's not explosive and exciting he's dependable. We desperately needed dependable at TE, a guy who can move chains and handle his business.

[Ziggy]

Indy got Grover Stewart.

[ShaneFalco]

Siemian all over the Butt

[LTC Pain]

Broncos pic Butt ��

[G_Money]

Good to see Meck and Grandishar.

[weazel]

you guys are still getting snow in Denver? can you guys stop calling Canada cold LMAO

[DT88TheGreat]

Thy finally got u butt. There goes you guys butt.

[Nomad]

:lol: There's your Butt, BRONCOS fans.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I'm not excited with this pick. I hope he's more than a jag.

[Northman]

Siemian all over the Butt

Best comment ever.

[Timmy!]

Yay Butt!

[Nomad]

you guys are still getting snow in Denver? can you guys stop calling Canada cold LMAO

Yeah, really. Nice and sunny here.

[Northman]

I'm not excited with this pick. I hope he's more than a jag.

At worse he was taken in the 5th, at least we didnt reach.

[LTC Pain]

John Mackey award winner, #1 TE in the nation. Tremendous value pick!!!

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Troy Renck‏Verified account @TroyRenck 7m

Jake Butt likely out for this season. But he's a potential first-round talent when healthy. This is fantastic selection. @DenverChannel

[VonDoom]

Butt!

[Nomad]

I'm not excited with this pick. I hope he's more than a jag.

I thought choosing Butt would make everyone happy.

[honz]

I can't wait to watch Siemian fire a rocket into the clenches of Butt!!! Go Broncos!!!

[G_Money]

I'm not excited with this pick. I hope he's more than a jag.

He's better than Heuerman.

[nevcraw]

No more butt hurt!!!

[ShaneFalco]

you guys are still getting snow in Denver? can you guys stop calling Canada cold LMAO

snowstorm man.

snowed like a foot last nite

[DT88TheGreat]

Nfl network says it's very possible jake butt will be ready for the start of the season, charles davis says we got a STEAL. I hope so. He also says huerrman is going to be good as well after working his way back from jis injury. So maybe just maybe we have two or three tight ends.

[LTC Pain]

Who posted that they would run outside naked if we picked Butt???

[Freyaka]

Butt!!!!!

[Northman]

I can't wait to watch Siemian fire a rocket into the clenches of Butt!!! Go Broncos!!!

Honzo sighting!

[Krugan]

Well, if nothing else, this draft will get us some good jokes.

Put a football in your Butt

[G_Money]

Elway's bet to drop down the draft and stock up next year paid off. Still got that TE we need. I really hope he's on track to come back at week 6.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Troy Renck‏Verified account @TroyRenck 7m

Jake Butt likely out for this season. But he's a potential first-round talent when healthy. This is fantastic selection. @DenverChannel

First round talent?

Uh, no...

[DT88TheGreat]

I'm not excited with this pick. I hope he's more than a jag.

He's comparable to huerrman, if we can get both rolling injury free we might have two serviceable TEs who can also block along with catch the ball.

[DenBronx]

I would change my name.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

He's better than Heuerman.

We'll see

[DT88TheGreat]

First round talent?

Uh, no...

Lol 1st round pick is a longgggggg stretch. Who is that guy?

[Timmy!]

We need to let our butt mend.

[CoachChaz]

First round talent?

Uh, no...

In hindsight...would you use a 1st round pick on Jason Witten? Because that's a pretty good comp for Jake Butt.

And he can do something that 95% of the otger TE's in this draft cant do. He can BLOCK.

[Hawgdriver]

John Mackey award winner, #1 TE in the nation. Tremendous value pick!!!

This is where I am. Outstanding value. Super productive guy. Broncos killed it.

[Timmy!]

Amber: "We just picked a tight end named Butt? Oh for the love of God you idiots will be cracking jokes till the end of time *facepalm*"

[Northman]

There went Leggett

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Lol 1st round pick is a longgggggg stretch. Who is that guy?

Local beat homer...

[DenBronx]

First round talent?

Uh, no...

Cecil Lammey just said that on 104.3 the fan too.

Also, he might not even play this year. Suffered a torn ACL in his right knee during the Orange Bowl.

[Bronco4ever]

Savage Butt pick!

[Hawgdriver]

This is the round to get value steals on TE and CB, and the Broncos are executing...Matt Russell is the man.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

In hindsight...would you use a 1st round pick on Jason Witten? Because that's a pretty good comp for Jake Butt.

And he can do something that 95% of the otger TE's in this draft cant do. He can BLOCK.

You might be right, but his draft profile says his strength is the short range passing game, but his blocking is poor.

I like that we're at least adding competition to the position, except in a sense we're not. He's injured and won't play for a while. If he can add 500 yards and a handful of touchdowns in 18' I suppose it's a good value pick.

[CoachChaz]

Cecil Lammey just said that on 104.3 the fan too.

Also, he might not even play this year. Suffered a torn ACL in his right knee during the Orange Bowl.

Everyone will say it because he was 1st round projected all the way up until his injury.

[DenBronx]

Come on guys, our tight end shouldn't be the BUTT end of every joke.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Gem, get in here and eat crow. You were the one pining for Butt yesterday

[CoachChaz]

You might be right, but his draft profile says his strength is the short range passing game, but his blocking is poor.

I like that we're at least adding competition to the position, except in a sense we're not. He's injured and won't play for a while. If he can add 500 yards and a handful of touchdowns in 18' I suppose it's a good value pick.

Except...he might play this year

[DT88TheGreat]

In hindsight...would you use a 1st round pick on Jason Witten? Because that's a pretty good comp for Jake Butt.

And he can do something that 95% of the otger TE's in this draft cant do. He can BLOCK.

In hindsight there's always guys who work hard into a great player, doesn't mean they were worthy of a 1st at the time. UNLESS they come in right away and just dominated, but if they had to work on there craft to get there I wouldn't say they should have went higher. I am rooting for Jake and Jeff though. We need them both to pan out for our young QB and run game sake.

[LTC Pain]

In hindsight...would you use a 1st round pick on Jason Witten? Because that's a pretty good comp for Jake Butt.

And he can do something that 95% of the otger TE's in this draft cant do. He can BLOCK.

Cecil Lammey‏Verified account @CecilLammey 11m11 minutes ago
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A healthy Jake Butt would be a 1st round graded player for me. He's Jason Witten/Zach Miller like prospect #Broncos #NFLDraft @1043TheFan

[DenBronx]

Everyone will say it because he was 1st round projected all the way up until his injury.


I wanted Njoku or Shaheen but I can't knock the value Butt was picked in the 5th and it filled a huge need.

[Freyaka]

Gem, get in here and eat crow. You were the one pining for Butt yesterday

GEM always struck me as the type that liked Butt. :D


*I'm going to be so childish in my butt jokes this year* lol

[DT88TheGreat]

Local beat homer...

Oh yeah well we're all victims of being homers sometimes. I'll give him a pass, he likes butt.

[Freyaka]

Oh yeah well we're all victims of being homers sometimes. I'll give him a pass, he likes butt.

We have a nice Butt, people admire our Butt, our Butt is destined for great things in Denver

[DT88TheGreat]

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A healthy Jake Butt would be a 1st round graded player for me. He's Jason Witten/Zach Miller like prospect #Broncos #NFLDraft @1043TheFan

Didnt he have like 4 touchdowns the entire year last year?

[Northman]

Still would of preferred Howard or Njoku but IF we can get solid production from Butt and he can be a solid contributor in the redzone than its a good pick.

[DenBronx]

I like big Butts and I can not lie.

[Ziggy]

Cecil Lammey‏Verified account @CecilLammey 11m11 minutes ago
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A healthy Jake Butt would be a 1st round graded player for me. He's Jason Witten/Zach Miller like prospect #Broncos #NFLDraft @1043TheFan

Lammy's opinion on players is about as valuable as my 10 year old niece's. However, he might be right on this one. We finally have a tight end that can block and catch well.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Except...he might play this year

I hope he does and I hope you're right. It's likely a value pick for the future, which I'm ok with

[GEM]

Gem, get in here and eat crow. You were the one pining for Butt yesterday

Nice! Still didn't need to take the other guy that early, but this makes me happy!

[Hawgdriver]

Gem, get in here and eat crow. You were the one pining for Butt yesterday

She was also complaining about taking them raw.

[DenBronx]

Didnt he have like 4 touchdowns the entire year last year?


Shhhhh you are exposing our Butt. Don't do that

[DT88TheGreat]

Except...he might play this year

The way charles Davis was talking hell be ready by week 1, says his rehab has been very fast so far. If not week 1 atleast mid season unless they just totally red shirt him.

[CoachChaz]

Didnt he have like 4 touchdowns the entire year last year?

On a team with a bunch of good receivers and a shit QB.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

What is week @?

[Hawgdriver]

Nice! Still didn't need to take the other guy that early, but this makes me happy!

Maybe...but then again, other teams know how to find talent.

When I looked at the Kayvon Webster pick, I discovered that right before the Broncos took Kayvon at 90, the Patriots took Logan Ryan at 83 or something. That was also something of a reach, iirc.

On it's face, it seems dumb, because you assume this 'big board' is like a stock market that accurately reflects prices.

But if you are super smart, you buy the stuff low that's really worth a lot more.

Could they have waited? Maybe they thought he wouldn't last, you know, that someone else knew the secret.

[Ziggy]

Still holding out hope for McNichols. He would be another absolute steal in the 5th.

[G_Money]

I had Butt as a late 2nd/early third. I thought he and Shaheen were pretty equivalent talents (if in different ways). Last year if he'd come out he probably would have been the best TE, so Harbaugh cost him a lot of money by getting him to go back for his senior year. He's not a perfect TE, but he can still be a Pro Bowl one. Always good to add very talented players in the 5th.

[Nomad]

On a team with a bunch of good receivers and a shit QB.

The QB was awful. He lost that Ohio St. game

[weazel]

snowstorm man.

snowed like a foot last nite

I have a 2:14 tee time :hi:

[DT88TheGreat]

Shhhhh you are exposing our Butt. Don't do that

Lol just saying, the butt will have to work his butt off on perfecting his craft. He has the tools and hands and is a willing blocked it seems so the potential is definitely there, just think the would have been a first round pick talk is kind of absurd being that he only had 4-5 hundred yards and just 4 touchdowns in 13 games.....

[GEM]

She was also complaining about taking them raw.

Raw butts :shocked:

[Ziggy]

Lol just saying, the butt will have to work his butt off on perfecting his craft. He has the tools and hands and is a willing blocked it seems so the potential is definitely there, just think the would have been a first round pick talk is kind of absurd being that he only had 4-5 hundred yards and just 4 touchdowns in 13 games.....

You have to look beyond the stats and watch games. He was valuable to Michigan in a number of ways. He affects pass protection, the run game and is a reliable target. He was also a leader on that team. He's one of the rare tight ends that will never have to come off of the field when the offense has the ball.

[DT88TheGreat]

On a team with a bunch of good receivers and a shit QB.

Maybe, I like him though, just not a 1st round pick. If Denver had picked butt over Howard would you have been upset knowing you are getting your jason witten you speak of?

[G_Money]

Lol just saying, the butt will have to work his butt off on perfecting his craft. He has the tools and hands and is a willing blocked it seems so the potential is definitely there, just think the would have been a first round pick talk is kind of absurd being that he only had 4-5 hundred yards and just 4 touchdowns in 13 games.....

He would not have been a 1st rounder this year (although the Michigan hype machine would make you think that). The combine would have lowered his slot compared to the other top TEs in this draft. He's still very legit. If that knee is okay, very legit.

[DT88TheGreat]

You have to look beyond the stats and watch games. He was valuable to Michigan in a number of ways. He affects pass protection, the run game and is a reliable target. He was also a leader on that team. He's one of the rare tight ends that will never have to come off of the field when the offense has the ball.

No doubt that there is always hidden meaningful stuff, however a ( 1st round TE ) that didnt have great production isn't really a first round TE too me. I like it where we got him.

[DT88TheGreat]

He would not have been a 1st rounder this year (although the Michigan hype machine would make you think that). The combine would have lowered his slot compared to the other top TEs in this draft. He's still very legit. If that knee is okay, very legit.

I think were in great shape at TE if butt gets pass the injury and huerrman is over his injury. Two good TE prospects, an obviously revamped OL. Looking bright on offense where it really matters for once.

[underrated29]

Who posted that they would run outside naked if we picked Butt???

Me and I will!


Butt is waaaaaaaaaaay better than everyone's love child shaheen. This was the pick I was hoping for. Grand freaking slam! We are killing it! Butt will come in and be an immediate impact starter, after his rehab is done.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Troy Renck‏Verified account @TroyRenck 3m

#Broncos Jake Butt said "I almost lost my breath when the call finally came. It was a dream come true." @DenverChannel

Troy Renck‏Verified account @TroyRenck 4m

#Broncos Jake Butt said first time in knee injury involved a meniscus. This was straight ACL tear. So lifting, running sooner this time

Troy Renck‏Verified account @TroyRenck 4m

#Broncos Jake Butt on his recovery by September. "I know it's ambitious. But I set goals that people don't think I can reach" @DenverChannel

Troy Renck‏Verified account @TroyRenck 5m

#Broncos Jake Butt said believes can be ready in September. Came back several months earlier first time tore ACL. @DenverChannel

[DenBronx]

So he tore his ACL not once but twice? Geez!

[Rick]

Is everyone on this board 12 years old? Damn.

[G_Money]

Me and I will!


Butt is waaaaaaaaaaay better than everyone's love child shaheen. This was the pick I was hoping for. Grand freaking slam! We are killing it! Butt will come in and be an immediate impact starter, after his rehab is done.

For that McCoy offense safety valve in the seam and across the middle, Butt is basically perfect.

[DenBronx]

Is everyone on this board 12 years old? Damn.

Well, we just need to wait for the Butt to get wide open for Siemian.

[NightTerror218]

If butt has 100% recovery and ready for week 1 steal in 5th

[tomjonesrocks]

I dunno why you think a project TE still couldn't be a day one starter. The Broncos has a bunch of JAGs at TE. Heuerman has the inside edge but we're one trip over a suitcase from being back to Green. TE is wiiide open.

I'm catching up from behind on this thread - but is Derby really that horrible? He looked decent to me at times and Denver gave up something to get him.

[Northman]

So he tore his ACL not once but twice? Geez!

Thats not a great sign unfortunately and probably a huge reason why he dropped. Sounds like its a huge risk because of the injury issues but if he can manage to stay healthy would be a huge reward.

[G_Money]

I'm catching up from behind on this thread - but is Derby really that horrible? He looked decent to me at times and gave up something to get him.

I'm not a huge fan, no. He's the emergency option for me based on the depth chart now.

[DenBronx]

So he tore his ACL not once but twice? Geez!

Thats not a great sign unfortunately and probably a huge reason why he dropped. Sounds like its a huge risk because of the injury issues but if he can manage to stay healthy would be a huge reward.

There is a reason he went in 5th and O.J., Njoku and Shaheen all went very high. And yeah, it was probably the injury concerns. But hey, Von Miller came back just fine from it.

Good value though so I can't complain.

[Ziggy]

McNichols to the Bucs. He'll start for them when Martin gets in trouble again.

[Northman]

THere went Ziggy's guy.

[Northman]

So does Denver go OL or DT with the next pick? Maybe still go after a RB? What are people's thoughts at this point?

[Northman]

I still think we need LB help but not anyone is really worth it at this stage. Is Nickerson's son still out there?

[underrated29]

Thats not a great sign unfortunately and probably a huge reason why he dropped. Sounds like its a huge risk because of the injury issues but if he can manage to stay healthy would be a huge reward.



Nah.
Dude got the Terrel Davis treatment. He'll be back and he'll ball. There's no risk.
Best TE we've had since sharpe

[Ziggy]

Still a lot of needs on this team.....ILB, 3rd QB, RB speed, NT

[MOtorboat]

Still a lot of needs on this team.....ILB, 3rd QB, RB speed, NT

...starting QB...

[Northman]

Nah.
Dude got the Terrel Davis treatment. He'll be back and he'll ball. There's no risk.
Best TE we've had since sharpe

To early for that statement, sorry if im a downer on that. Im a wait and see kind of guy. lol

[GEM]

Is everyone on this board 12 years old? Damn.

Pretty much, you haven't figured that out yet?

[Nomad]

Pretty much, you haven't figured that out yet?

It's boring being a grown up. :D

[Northman]

...starting QB...

I dont think you will get what you want in that regard this year Mo. But hey, Glennon may be pissed off enough to want to leave Chi-town! And there is always Cutlet. :)

[Northman]

Pretty much, you haven't figured that out yet?

Can i see your boobies. My 12 year old brain just wont shut off.... lol

[Nomad]

I dont think you will get what you want in that regard this year Mo. But hey, Glennon may be pissed off enough to want to leave Chi-town! And there is always Cutlet. :)

I recall MO stating he'd take Cutler over our current QBs

[NightTerror218]

You have to look beyond the stats and watch games. He was valuable to Michigan in a number of ways. He affects pass protection, the run game and is a reliable target. He was also a leader on that team. He's one of the rare tight ends that will never have to come off of the field when the offense has the ball.

Jake butt was considered best TE in country until his injury. Of course that does nit always translate to nfl but itbus something to consider.

[MOtorboat]

I dont think you will get what you want in that regard this year Mo. But hey, Glennon may be pissed off enough to want to leave Chi-town! And there is always Cutlet. :)

Maybe one of these two will develop into a long term starter. I don't see it, and while I didn't expect Elway to draft a quarterback, it is still a giant question mark on this team. No more excuses for either, though, whoever starts has weapons all around him and Denver has worked on the line.

[MOtorboat]

I recall MO stating he'd take Cutler over our current QBs

I go back and forth. I really hate that guy.

[G_Money]

Still a lot of needs on this team.....ILB, 3rd QB, RB speed, NT

I'm still on TJ Logan for the speedy RB role.

Who's the great white slow hope for LB? Matt Milano's gone now and that's who I had pegged in the 5th or 6th. I had Dylan Cole as a special teams LB, maybe he's still an option.

I still like Qualls as a 3- or NT. But I watched a lot of Washington this year.

Couldn't give 2 shits about QB, but I'm sure you're right and we'll grab someone.

[Northman]

Maybe one of these two will develop into a long term starter. I don't see it, and while I didn't expect Elway to draft a quarterback, it is still a giant question mark on this team. No more excuses for either, though, whoever starts has weapons all around him and Denver has worked on the line.

Cant really argue with that, both have some games under their belt now (Siemian a little more than Lynch at this point) and either one will be expected to step it up this year.

[NightTerror218]

There is a reason he went in 5th and O.J., Njoku and Shaheen all went very high. And yeah, it was probably the injury concerns. But hey, Von Miller came back just fine from it.

Good value though so I can't complain.

He is nit the athletic freak like them and the injury. Best he is a complete TE....willing to block and great hands.

[NightTerror218]

I'm still on TJ Logan for the speedy RB role.

Who's the great white slow hope for LB? Matt Milano's gone now and that's who I had pegged in the 5th or 6th. I had Dylan Cole as a special teams LB, maybe he's still an option.

I still like Qualls as a 3- or NT. But I watched a lot of Washington this year.

Couldn't give 2 shits about QB, but I'm sure you're right and we'll grab someone.

I am hoping for qualls. We have 2 NT but need depth and future replacements.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

McNichols to the Bucs. He'll start for them when Martin gets in trouble again.

Dang it!!!!

[G_Money]

He is nit the athletic freak like them and the injury. Best he is a complete TE....willing to block and great hands.

His hands are great. Hands and ability to get a little space w/ his hips. He's not a great mover, though he's good enough. He just needs a little space to go get the ball. Shouldn't have to worry about stone-handed TEs any more.

[G_Money]

I am hoping for qualls. We have 2 NT but need depth and future replacements.

I would take Qualls or Logan here and be happy with either. Qualls is fun for our defense, though. Nothing wrong with reinforcing that DL. I still think we could use another OL, maybe one we can stash on the practice squad. Trenches are important.

[underrated29]

To early for that statement, sorry if im a downer on that. Im a wait and see kind of guy. lol
You will :)


Maybe one of these two will develop into a long term starter. I don't see it, and while I didn't expect Elway to draft a quarterback, it is still a giant question mark on this team. No more excuses for either, though, whoever starts has weapons all around him and Denver has worked on the line.

They said we will draft a qb. Vance wants a qb of his own.


He is nit the athletic freak like them and the injury. Best he is a complete TE....willing to block and great hands.

Yep. People get caught up in athletic freaks. Virgil green is an athletic freak and he sucks. Butt produces and we got him a round later than we did green. I'm so pumped

[DT88TheGreat]

The Broncos dont have QB issue's unless trev somehow wins the job and holds the offense back with the non aggressive safe way he plays the position, which is fine depending on what your organization wants, but clearly at some point even a guy like Andy Reid who loves alex Smith said enough is enough im going to go get me a QB with a big time arm who isn't afraid to attack defense's all over the field in Mahones.

I think Lynch wins the job and play's very well especially since the OL is going to be good and the run game consistent.

[G_Money]

Aside: Love this shot of Walker getting to see his name on a Broncos jersey, about 25 seconds into this video.

https://twitter.com/9NEWSSports/status/858381593148350464

[DT88TheGreat]

Broncos pick again in a few slots. Time too see the latest addition baby!

Everyone drafted so far will be on the team thankfully.

[Jsteve01]

To early for that statement, sorry if im a downer on that. Im a wait and see kind of guy. lol
You will :)


Maybe one of these two will develop into a long term starter. I don't see it, and while I didn't expect Elway to draft a quarterback, it is still a giant question mark on this team. No more excuses for either, though, whoever starts has weapons all around him and Denver has worked on the line.

They said we will draft a qb. Vance wants a qb of his own.


He is nit the athletic freak like them and the injury. Best he is a complete TE....willing to block and great hands.

Yep. People get caught up in athletic freaks. Virgil green is an athletic freak and he sucks. Butt produces and we got him a round later than we did green. I'm so pumped actually you're thinking of Julius Thomas. We got Julius Thomas in the 4th in that draft and we got green in the 7th.

[DenBronx]

Nah.
Dude got the Terrel Davis treatment. He'll be back and he'll ball. There's no risk.
Best TE we've had since sharpe

To early for that statement, sorry if im a downer on that. Im a wait and see kind of guy. lol


Is Butt already being compared to Sharpe???

Bwuahahahahaha

[DenBronx]

There was a big chance we were going to draft Peterman.

[Northman]

Is Butt already being compared to Sharpe???

Bwuahahahahaha

Well in UR's defense when he goes all in on a player he goes all in. In this case he went head first into the Butt.

[Northman]

Broncos moved up

[underrated29]

actually you're thinking of Julius Thomas. We got Julius Thomas in the 4th in that draft and we got green in the 7th.
Nope. Sharpy...JT couldn't block. butt can.

[Northman]

They must of really wanted somebody.

[DT88TheGreat]

Did we trade up? Pick is in.

[underrated29]

Is Butt already being compared to Sharpe???

Bwuahahahahaha


The fuk?

How do you asertain from "he is the best TE we've had since sharp" to "jake butt is as good as Shannon sharpe"

[Nomad]

No shit....BRONCOS have the toughest schedule in 2017.

[DT88TheGreat]

More juice, more juice!

[DenBronx]

McKenzie. Who???

[Northman]

McKenzie. Is he any good?

[MOtorboat]

Elway going all in on finding a return man (men).

[DenBronx]

Return specialist? Wow that's 3. Competition is going to be fierce there.

[Nomad]

Elway going all in on finding a return man (men).

All about the field position.

[G_Money]

Broncos traded up - BRING IT.

Isaiah McKenzie? Not sure why we took him over Logan. Both guys can return, but I don't know where else McKenzie plays. Making really sure about having that slot receiver I guess.

[Northman]

Elway really is trying to find his own Tyreek Hill. lol

[Ziggy]

McKenzie is probably the best returner in the draft. Not sure that we needed him after day 2, but there's definitely depth at returner and slot receiver.

[DT88TheGreat]

Check out this little guy go.
https://youtu.be/w_IobKqx5Vw

Could be our tyreke hill..... Much needed juice, Denver has definitely upgraded the explosive ability on offense. With Henderson and now McKenzie, jake butt, jeff huerrman adding to Sanders and Thomas should free alot of shit up and finally put fear in defenses.

[Ziggy]

watch?v=w_IobKqx5Vw

[DT88TheGreat]

McKenzie. Is he any good?https://youtu.be/w_IobKqx5Vw check him out

[G_Money]

McKenzie. Is he any good?

He's a really good returner. I worry about guys that little having ball security, and he's no exception. Not sure he's really a receiver either, but I guess you can give him a few plays against LBs he can burn or out of the backfield in a pinch.

[Ziggy]

They call him the human joystick. More speed.

[NightTerror218]

Elway creating competition all ocer board. I have a feelings some of these draft picks may go to practice squad after our return guy is determined

[Nomad]

He's a really good returner. I worry about guys that little having ball security, and he's no exception. Not sure he's really a receiver either, but I guess you can give him a few plays against LBs he can burn or out of the backfield in a pinch.

He wasn't a fumbler in college.

[Hawgdriver]

I still like Qualls as a 3- or NT. But I watched a lot of Washington this year.

Dude...me too!!!

[Nomad]

Dude...me too!!!

You're a Husky guy, huh?

[G_Money]

For me McKenzie's just a package guy. His routes seem really soft, which isn't that big a deal in college but he's gonna have to crisp that shit up. Kickoff returns are meaning less and less, and I want my kickoff and punt guys to be REALLY secure with the ball. I'd consider him insurance in the return game and a guy who can make the practice squad and work on those routes and his actual receiver skills.

Nothing wrong with that at this point, just odd to move up for it.

[DT88TheGreat]

With Mike McCoy deep ball offense, addition of juice type players like Henderson and McKenzie kind of seems like fhe QB will have to be the guy with the ability and willingness to sling it down the field. These guy's like Henderson and McKenzie aren't here to be exclusively returnIf guys or else you wouldn't draft two of them. Im sure they will get there fair share of touches on offense.

[Ziggy]

So the Broncos traded the next to last pick in the 7th to move up for McKenzie. 2 picks left.

[G_Money]

He wasn't a fumbler in college.

Nobody could hit him in college. I don't care a lot about hand size, but for tiny returners I do. Just a concern to be aware of - call it a Trindon Holliday alert.

[DT88TheGreat]

Elway creating competition all ocer board. I have a feelings some of these draft picks may go to practice squad after our return guy is determined

I have a feeling guys like fowler and norwood who were our 3rd 4th wideouts are replaced by Henderson and McKenzie, I dont think you can hide either on the practice squad without them being took.

[Northman]

Logan is gone.

[Hawgdriver]

You're a Husky guy, huh?

Well, I grew up there and have some vague fondness, but I don't follow their season. Not much of a college football guy.

[G_Money]

With Mike McCoy deep ball offense, addition of juice type players like Henderson and McKenzie kind of seems like fhe QB will have to be the guy with the ability and willingness to sling it down the field. These guy's like Henderson and McKenzie aren't here to be exclusively returnIf guys or else you wouldn't draft two of them. Im sure they will get there fair share of touches on offense.

That's one think McKenzie can do: fly in a straight line down the field. Henderson is definitely NOT just a return guy - he has all-around skills. If McKenzie can learn them too we'll be in great shape.

[Northman]

Nobody could hit him in college. I don't care a lot about hand size, but for tiny returners I do. Just a concern to be aware of - call it a Trindon Holliday alert.

Yea, he will be facing more talent at the pro level so unless he can elude them it doesnt mean his ball security will translate from college to the pros. But, we desperately need a consistent return man so here's to hoping he or another one of the guys can do it.

[Nomad]

Nobody could hit him in college. I don't care a lot about hand size, but for tiny returners I do. Just a concern to be aware of - call it a Trindon Holliday alert.

Trindon fumbled in college. Curious, why the red flags because McKenzie rarely fumbled, if he did at all? I get BRONCOS fans are scarred by Trindon...the little guys handling an NFL sized ball.

[G_Money]

Logan is gone.

The reason to pick him was to have a scatback weapon who could return kicks. We went with a slot WR who can do that instead, I guess. Still need another RB, but maybe we wait for the undrafteds.

[ShaneFalco]

if i see that stupid hyundai singing commercial one more time.....

what is it with these companies and their shitty cars pushing shitty jingles and songs on the world?

[Hawgdriver]

Qualls was a 3d rounder earlier in the year. In the sixth, I'd take a flyer on him. Trashcan full of dirt guy that plays with his eyes. I like him.

[Ziggy]

Troy Renck‏Verified account @TroyRenck · 12m12 minutes ago
Happiest #Broncos coach today? Brock Olivo. Has multiple special weapons. Added explosive options in area that provided little bump last yr

How true is that?

[G_Money]

Trindon fumbled in college. Curious, why the red flags because McKenzie rarely fumbled, if he did at all? I get BRONCOS fans are scarred by Trindon...the little guys handling an NFL sized ball.

Go type in "Isaiah McKenzie fumbles" in Google. You'll get several results from different games. He did put the ball on the ground. "Tried to fair catch against Kentucky - fumbled." "Costly fumble against the Colonels by McKenzie." "Fumbled against Georgia Southern." "Fumbles against Bama (recovered)."

I'm not making shit up.

[DT88TheGreat]

Go type in "Isaiah McKenzie fumbles" in Google. You'll get several results from different games. He did put the ball on the ground. "Tried to fair catch against Kentucky - fumbled." "Costly fumble against the Colonels by McKenzie." "Fumbled against Georgia Southern." "Fumbles against Bama (recovered)."

I'm not making shit up.http://247sports.com/player/isaiah-mckenzie-27952

Looks like you are making stuff up or looking at the wrong guy. This says he only has 1 career fumble. Lol

[DT88TheGreat]

Why would you type in Isaiah McKenzie fumbles instead of just going to his stat lines?

The kid has 1 recorded fumble his entire career. Had 7 touchdowns as a WR averaging 15ypc. He will get his fair share of touches in this offense thats looking to pump explosion plays this year.

[Northman]

Well, this link says he has had 5 lost fumbles in his career. Im still trying to hunt down more info on that.

http://ncaa-football-players.pointafter.com/l/22061/Isaiah-McKenzie#Career%20Stats&s=3Mcavl

[G_Money]

http://247sports.com/player/isaiah-mckenzie-27952

Looks like you are making stuff up or looking at the wrong guy. This says he only has 1 career fumble. Lol

And that's wrong, because people who watch Georgia were worried about his fumbling even prior to this year.

http://www.ajc.com/sports/college/georgia-most-important-players-2016-isaiah-mckenzie/3bmqZu2L1tEW3IwtkULWrJ/


BEST CASE: McKenzie’s hamstring, fumbling and dependability issues all prove a thing of the past. He breaks and then expands on the school record for return touchdowns, even doing on kickoffs. Jim Chaney and the offensive staff figure out creative way to get him touches, and he has around 7-to-10 offensive touches a game. It adds an explosive – and consistent – dimension to the offense, easing the transition for the younger skill position players. (Including, potentially, at quarterback.)

WORST CASE: McKenzie joked in January about transferring back home to Miami. That would have been worst case. He was joking, he made clear. But the previously-related issues, particularly the hamstring, still loom. If McKenzie does get derailed, or derails himself, Georgia can still turn to Godwin or other speedy options (like Hardman and Simmons) but it would be preferable not to.

FINAL WORD: If McKenzie’s health could be assured, a safe bet would be that he’d have a spectacular junior season, even if there are some occasional ball control hiccups.

Some articles with him fumbling: http://onlineathens.com/sports/2016-10-15/uga-made-field-goals-special-teams-generally-proved-mess-against-vanderbilt


Georgia’s kick and punt return teams also left much to be desired. Isaiah McKenzie’s first two punt returns resulted in a fumble (which Georgia recovered and which resulted in no yards) and a return of minus-5 yards.

His fumble against Nicholls: http://www.georgiadogs.com/sports/m-footbl/recaps/091016aad.html

A fumble by Isaiah McKenzie trying to field a punt late in the 4th quarter was recovered by the Colonels at the Bulldog 10 and two plays later, it led to a TD as Nichols closed the gap to 26-24 with 3:42 left.


Here's some video evidence of him fumbling against Georgia Southern: http://www.secsports.com/video/14189401/i-mckenzie-run-1-ydsi-mckenzie-fumbled-forced-williams-recovered-geoso-19-19-return-65-yds


He fumbles. He has fumbled, he has small hands and a small body, and he needs to not fumble like that for us. Thanks.

[Hawgdriver]

Why did Brantley go so late?

[G_Money]

Why would you type in Isaiah McKenzie fumbles instead of just going to his stat lines?

The kid has 1 recorded fumble his entire career. Had 7 touchdowns as a WR averaging 15ypc. He will get his fair share of touches in this offense thats looking to pump explosion plays this year.

Because the stat line is ******* wrong, genius.

[MOtorboat]

Never trust fumble statistics for college...

[Nomad]

And that's wrong, because people who watch Georgia were worried about his fumbling even prior to this year.

http://www.ajc.com/sports/college/georgia-most-important-players-2016-isaiah-mckenzie/3bmqZu2L1tEW3IwtkULWrJ/



Some articles with him fumbling: http://onlineathens.com/sports/2016-10-15/uga-made-field-goals-special-teams-generally-proved-mess-against-vanderbilt



His fumble against Nicholls: http://www.georgiadogs.com/sports/m-footbl/recaps/091016aad.html



Here's some video evidence of him fumbling against Georgia Southern: http://www.secsports.com/video/14189401/i-mckenzie-run-1-ydsi-mckenzie-fumbled-forced-williams-recovered-geoso-19-19-return-65-yds


He fumbles. He has fumbled, he has small hands and a small body, and he needs to not fumble like that for us. Thanks.

I stand corrected. No reason to have a meltdown.

[G_Money]

Never trust fumble statistics for college...

Exactly. A lot of guys look like they've never fumbled because the stats aren't always in the database being pulled from, so the statline people log that as zero because they have a spot for it. You have to go looking for their actual fumbles.

[DT88TheGreat]

Until I can figure out why different sites are saying different things ill hold jjudgement. If its 5 fumbles in 4 years im not concerned anyway. People fumble, who are bigger than him. It happens. Just can't happen 5 times a year or something crazy like that.

[G_Money]

I stand corrected. No reason to have a meltdown.

Not melting down at you - the quoted guy apparently thinks research is for idiots and trusting stat lines he found in 4 seconds is way smarter. McKenzie has a lot of good qualities, but one of his drawbacks is ball security. Let's not brush it under the rug.

[DenBronx]

I'll go a step further. Never trust stats at all in college.

Won't mean jack shit once they get to the NFL. We see guys with padded stats become busts in the NFL all the time. Monte Ball comes to mind.

[Nomad]

Not melting down at you - the quoted guy apparently thinks research is for idiots and trusting stat lines he found in 4 seconds is way smarter. McKenzie has a lot of good qualities, but one of his drawbacks is ball security. Let's not brush it under the rug.

My apologies. I don't look at stats, and I watch a lot of SEC football, and I just don't recall him fumbling much. But I do appreciate you giving the info. I didn't do my homework on. I should know not to debate you on your football knowledge. :D :cheers:

[DT88TheGreat]

I trust the eye test. I've never seen ANY offensive player not fumble. You just hope they rise to the occasion and not screw up in a key moment.

[Rick]

Can't imagine we traded up for a guy with the thoughts of practice squad. I am sure they are hoping he is depth at WR.

[G_Money]

My apologies. I don't look at stats, and I watch a lot of SEC football, and I just don't recall him fumbling much. But I do appreciate you giving the info. I didn't do my homework on. I should know not to debate you on your football knowledge. :D :cheers:

LOL why don't you already know EVERYTHING about a guy we drafted 10 minutes ago, jeez? I just had fumbling as a worry about him already, that's all. Also, I was hangry, but the burger is here now - time to settle in for the end of the draft.

[DT88TheGreat]

Gotta imagine they aren't concerned with ( fumbling ) either.

[MOtorboat]

Until I can figure out why different sites are saying different things ill hold jjudgement. If its 5 fumbles in 4 years im not concerned anyway. People fumble, who are bigger than him. It happens. Just can't happen 5 times a year or something crazy like that.

Stat lines are up to ADs in college, there's not one overall service, and most of the time ADs don't have their staff track fumbles individually. You almost have to go through game logs on team-specific sites to see it and even that can be iffy.

[nevcraw]

Happy with the kind of guys they got. Not worried about RB. Plenty of options out there post draft / first cuts etc. need OL to be better and RB's will be better.
Henderson will be in mix right away to compete with sunshine for 3rd WR. This kid from Georgia fumbles or not looks like a shot in the arm in return game and ST . If he can get his shit together early he may get a package or two to be our trick guy.
Butt is the first player I have wanted and gotten I think ever. So that's cool. Well maybe did root for tebow to be a bronco and that worked out alright! ��

[DenBronx]

Latimer is as good as gone.

[Ziggy]

Latimer is as good as gone.

He's a special teams beast. I doubt he gets cut. Now Jordan Taylor is another story.

[G_Money]

Qualls is still there with a half-dozen picks to go. That's be a nice get there. Really surprised he's still on the board.

[DenBronx]

He's a special teams beast. I doubt he gets cut. Now Jordan Taylor is another story.

Not going to be room for all of them that's for sure. Some guys will go to practice squad. We will carry the best returner of the group.

[nevcraw]

Love to see them get Hodge's too. Him and Butt in double TE like old NE (with Gronk And the dead murder)would be nasty.

[spikerman]

Wouldn't mind Boulware here.

[CoachChaz]

I think I'd go with Orlosky. Insurance for Paradis hips

[G_Money]

He's a special teams beast. I doubt he gets cut. Now Jordan Taylor is another story.

Well they can save several hundred grand by keeping Taylor or some other cheap-o over Latimer, right? Might weigh into it.

[Ziggy]

Elway likes the older rookies. If he really wants a run stopper, Stevie Tu'ikolovatu would be a nice fit.

[G_Money]

I think I'd go with Orlosky. Insurance for Paradis hips

That's a good call too.

[Ziggy]

Well they can save several hundred grand by keeping Taylor or some other cheap-o over Latimer, right? Might weigh into it.

True, but with Kayvon gone I'm not sure you let another stud special teams cover guy go unless the new corner can man that spot well.

[Ziggy]

Denver just picked up a RB.

[VonDoom]

Klis says we're taking RB DeAngelo Henderson with pick 203. Any good?

[G_Money]

There goes Hodges, my pick for this year's Julius Thomas. Can't block for shit, but he can run and he's a bigass target.

[NightTerror218]

And anither henderson for the broncos

[NightTerror218]

There goes Hodges, my pick for this year's Julius Thomas. Can't block for shit, but he can run and he's a bigass target.

Nees more than a 1 trick pony for a TE.

[CoachChaz]

How many return guys can one team pick? Lol

[G_Money]

Nees more than a 1 trick pony for a TE.

No argument, but there's a place for those guys too, especially in red-zone packages.

[Ziggy]

There goes Hodges, my pick for this year's Julius Thomas. Can't block for shit, but he can run and he's a bigass target.

I don't know that Elway ever drafts another TE that can't block.

[DT88TheGreat]

The first and only player we drafted that I don't like is deangelo Henderson.

[Hawgdriver]

Klis says we're taking RB DeAngelo Henderson with pick 203. Any good?

He's the worst RB in this class in terms of fumble rate, fwiw. Once per 51 carries according to Dane Brugler.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2017-nfl-draft-which-running-backs-raise-red-flags-as-potential-fumblers/

[DT88TheGreat]

How many return guys can one team pick? Lol

This guy isn't a return guy though, looks like a RB, just not a good one. He has some good patience and moves but it all just looks mehhh......

[Ziggy]

Henderson is the missing love child of MJD and Danny Woodhead.

[CoachChaz]

The first and only player we drafted that I don't like is deangelo Henderson.

Curious....

[Magnificent Seven]

Other RB? I guess they traded Bibbs to Niners.

[DT88TheGreat]

I don't think this Henderson even makes the team. It's alright though you can't land them all.

[CoachChaz]

This guy isn't a return guy though, looks like a RB, just not a good one. He has some good patience and moves but it all just looks mehhh......

I thought he did a bit when be was at SC. Maybe i confused him with someone else

[G_Money]

D'Angelo is fun. He's a really smooth guy for a short stumpy runner, and is faster than you think. He can catch the ball and can do most everything you need. He's a bounce guy even as a thick runner, but he can be a 3-down back if you needed him to be because of injury issues, but with his ability to catch he can work as a change-of-pace guy.

I like him fine. He's another oldie, like Olandis Gary - as somebody said earlier Elway is fine with his older prospects at the right positions.

[Ziggy]

He scored a TD in his last 35 games.

[Nomad]

I don't think I have ever watched a Coastal Carolina game.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

I'm happy overall

[DT88TheGreat]

Curious....

I don't like what I see on his highlights, I don't like how he balls up and falls to the ground when contact is coming instead of finishing the run, he didn't look all that fast vs very iinferior competition.

[G_Money]

He's the worst RB in this class in terms of fumble rate, fwiw. Once per 51 carries according to Dane Brugler.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2017-nfl-draft-which-running-backs-raise-red-flags-as-potential-fumblers/

This is my problem with him. He's another shorter guy and he's got to be able to hold onto the ball, just like McKenzie.

[NightTerror218]

Watched highlights
1 cut running. Nice jump cuts. Likes to lower pads for contact.

[Ziggy]

I've figured out Elway's draft strategy. Draft two 5'7 guys for the huddle to make the Oline look HUGE.

[G_Money]

I've figured out Elway's draft strategy. Draft two 5'7 guys for the huddle to make the Oline look HUGE.

Paxton Lynch is gonna look like the jolly orange giant.

[LawDog]

The first and only player we drafted that I don't like is deangelo Henderson.

I like him already then...