UFC thread

[Valar Morghulis]

So I am going to give this sport a go.

Please post details of the next fight worth watching and who the best fighters are

Every time I see a post in the Muhammad Ali and the fight game thread, I think it is boxing, hence this more specific thread.

[Poet]

I've decided to get into this sport a little as well. We can learn together!

[Hawgdriver]

I have enjoyed watching George St. Pierre fight.

[MOtorboat]

Rednecks beating up rednecks without it being considered a crime.

Yay!

[Valar Morghulis]

Rednecks beating up rednecks without it being considered a crime. Yay!

As opposed to white color kids homoerotically flirting with each other. Wrestling.

[Hawgdriver]

I'd fight MMA. I guess that makes me a redneck? Oh noes, how will I go on with MO's disapprobation?

[MOtorboat]

As opposed to white color kids homoerotically flirting with each other. Wrestling.

I'm just saying, if this sport is performed in a park it's a crime. Wrestling, not a crime.

[Hawgdriver]

I'm just saying, if this sport is performed in a park it's a crime. Wrestling, not a crime.

Says the NFL fan. lol. What is your point?

[MOtorboat]

Says the NFL fan. lol. What is your point?

It's like, still not a crime. I played football in the park growing up and it never even close to a crime, even when we tackled. If I punched someone, yeah, like, that's a crime.

[Hawgdriver]

It's like, still not a crime. I played football in the park growing up and it never even close to a crime, even when we tackled. If I punched someone, yeah, like, that's a crime.

Crime? You read off the definition of assault to me, describe the widespread appeal of tackle football to fans, and report back.

[Hawgdriver]

I just watched the Diaz v GSP UFC 158. I had not seen that. What a great fight between two incredible athletes. The post-fight exchange.

Sport at its finest.

edit: youtube took down the vid, so I took down my embed of it

[Hawgdriver]

Crime? You read off the definition of assault to me, describe the widespread appeal of tackle football to fans, and report back.

Ok, MO. I guess I have to do this.

:lol:

http://thelawdictionary.org/assault/


An unlawful attempt or offer. on the part of one man, with force or violence, to inflict a bodily hurt upon another. An attempt or offer to beat another, without touching him; as if one lifts up his cane or his fist in a threatening manner at another ; or strikes at him, but misses him. 3 Bl. Comm. 120; 3 Steph. Comm. 469. Aggravated assault is one committed with the intention of committing some additional crime; or one attended with circumstances of peculiar outrage or atrocity.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/122924-why-do-we-love-nfl-football


Okay, I think it’s a safe bet to say we don’t feel a player’s physical pain, nor do we want to. That is why they get the big bucks, and we eat nachos and watch the game from the safe confines of our living rooms.

[BroncoJoe]

Donald "Cowboy" Cerrone is a family friend. Grew up next door to my brother house. He was in my nephew's wedding. He's about the only reason I ever watch the UFC.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

So I am going to give this sport a go.

Please post details of the next fight worth watching and who the best fighters are

Every time I see a post in the Muhammad Ali and the fight game thread, I think it is boxing, hence this more specific thread.

sorry for the confusion, I started the thread to point out how much Ali had influenced a particular mma fighter, Dominic Cruz. I'll try to provide a little context for you prior to the next mma card.


Rednecks beating up rednecks without it being considered a crime.

Yay!

There are 11 weight classes (3 women, 8 men) and of those respective weight classes the belt holders are:

3 Brazilians
3 African Americans
1 Irishman (white)
1 Englishman (white)
1 Polish (white)
2 white Americans

There are no rednecks among the 5 belt holders who are Caucasian.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I have enjoyed watching George St. Pierre fight.

GSP signed a contract to return. He'll be fighting Michael Bisping for the middleweight title in May or June I believe. I'm not wild about the matchup, but it will be nice to see him return.

[Poet]

I am not a huge GSP fan. I always felt like he was the king of getting a takedown and doing nothing with it. Which is fine because the opponent doesn't want to get taken down, etc.

I did love his all around style, and when people took pot shots at his retirement I thought it was absurd. He's a legend. He always came off as a great guy. The sport is better with him in it. I'm glad he's back, but I can't say that I'm a huge fan.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

The first episode of the new TUF season started about 20 minutes ago. I'm looking forward to seeing Dillashaw and Garbrandt square off in the finale.

[Jsteve01]

I'm a huge fan of the sport. My brother trains in zingano's gym in Broomfield. Cat zingano who fought for the title last year has cornered him in a few muy Thai fights. There's something very Primal about watching two people square off and just find out who's really the alpha. I'm sorry Mo but it's achieved broad appeal a cross all spectrums. I'm a wrestling fan and you're not a fan of the sport that has provided income for so many wrestlers who wouldn't have anything to do after college and the Olympics.

[Jsteve01]

The first episode of the new TUF season started about 20 minutes ago. I'm looking forward to seeing Dillashaw and Garbrandt square off in the finale. I think Cody could have a very very very good career. You don't see many super young guys come in and beat up polished veterans like he did in the fight vs. Cruz. Cruz has always been the best athlete whenever he steps into the octagon and garbrandt was better than him in every phase. It will be interesting to see what he does in the TUF finale. But man he's a phenomenal athlete. He's got very good wrestling background and he's an unbelievable Striker. Plus when you get past the Brash exterior and you read about his relationship with the 11 year old boy that has leukemia. It's hard not to root for the kid

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I'm a huge fan of the sport. My brother trains in zingano's gym in Broomfield. Cat zingano who fought for the title last year has cornered him in a few muy Thai fights. There's something very Primal about watching two people square off and just find out who's really the alpha. I'm sorry Mo but it's achieved broad appeal a cross all spectrums. I'm a wrestling fan and you're not a fan of the sport that has provided income for so many wrestlers who wouldn't have anything to do after college and the Olympics.
I think it's been a few years since she fought for the title, but yeah, Cat is a tough chick

[Poet]

I'm in lust with the Karate Hottie.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

UFC 211-

That was a great fight card.

Dave, my apologies; I had the intention of giving a preview of this fight card and I didn't get around to it. It was one of the best cards of the year.

[Valar Morghulis]

I watched some british MMA on Fri with the wife - we both agreed we need to watch more, and to a higher level - we also need to get to know some elite fighters.

So next big card, give me the run down!

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I watched some british MMA on Fri with the wife - we both agreed we need to watch more, and to a higher level - we also need to get to know some elite fighters.

So next big card, give me the run down!

Will do buddy! I'm sorry, I sincerely meant to give you the rundown of last nights card. It was amazing.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

There's a UFC fight night in Glasgow on the 17th of July. Are you close to Glasgow?

Anyway, it should be a good card even thought it's not on ppv, but will be on Foxsports.

When we get closer I'll try to give a preview of the fighters I'm familiar with. There will be a few who are popular in your country.

[Valar Morghulis]

There's a UFC fight night in Glasgow on the 17th of July. Are you close to Glasgow?

Anyway, it should be a good card even thought it's not on ppv, but will be on Foxsports.

When we get closer I'll try to give a preview of the fighters I'm familiar with. There will be a few who are popular in your country.

LOL, i live in Germany

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

LOL, i live in Germany

Why did I think you lived in Wales?

[Valar Morghulis]

Why did I think you lived in Wales?

NO idea - but Wales is a fair distance away from Glasgow as well!

[BroncoJoe]

NO idea - but Wales is a fair distance away from Glasgow as well!

Well, in European terms, anyway...

[Valar Morghulis]

Well, in European terms, anyway...

LOL yeah - i suppose it is probably about the same driving time as Kansas to Denver (total guess)

[BroncoJoe]

LOL yeah - i suppose it is probably about the same driving time as Kansas to Denver (total guess)

Yeah - you're within 100 miles or so...

:)

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

NO idea - but Wales is a fair distance away from Glasgow as well!

Relatively speaking: where I live we're use to large distances between cities.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Here is the next UFC fight card. It's not a ppv event, but it will still be much better than watching a local circuit card. This is in Stockholm so it will be closer to your time zone.

It's in 10 days.

http://m.ufc.com/event/ufc-fight-night-stockholm-2017

[Simple Jaded]

How am I supposed to take this guy seriously with no neck tattoos?

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

How am I supposed to take this guy seriously with no neck tattoos?

Which guy?

Is anyone else watching tonight's card?

[Simple Jaded]

Which guy?

Is anyone else watching tonight's card?

Kattar.

[ShaneFalco]

UFC stream for Jones fight tonight

http://buffstream.com/watch/mma.php

Dont have to register for acct, that is an ad.

Just hit play.

[Simple Jaded]

Ortega can take a ****** punch.

[ShaneFalco]

Ortega can take a ****** punch.

i like his hair.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Ortega can take a ****** punch.

This is how he won his last fight. Lose every round until the last minute then submit the opponent

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I'm really looking forward to watching Woodley tonight. He's a very under appreciated champion and is one of the best fighters in mma.

[BroncoNut]

LOL, i live in Germany

is Germany a funny place to live or something?

[ShaneFalco]

let me know if you guys got issue with stream.

Works for me with occasionally refreshing the page.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

let me know if you guys got issue with stream.

Works for me with occasionally refreshing the page.

I paid for it.

[ShaneFalco]

wow. Manuwa just got ended

42 second knockout

[ShaneFalco]

Great matchup here. Cowboy vs Lawler

[ShaneFalco]

hell of a fight

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

hell of a fight

It was; I think it was a draw.

[ShaneFalco]

this card is so stacked. Woodley fight

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

That head kick by Jones was brutal.

[Jsteve01]

That head kick by Jones was brutal.

How you not fight for 15 months and look better than you ever have prior to that? I loved Jones when he first came onto the scene. I remember watching his early fights and just being Amazed by him. As I said I grew up in the martial arts trained in multiple disciplines and he was so amazing because he's so athletic and he had wrestling and striking and excellent Jiu-Jitsu and he's so Tactical. But again how did he come back after a 15-month layoff and look better than he ever has against the guy that if it were not for Jones would go down as the best light heavyweight ever.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

How you not fight for 15 months and look better than you ever have prior to that? I loved Jones when he first came onto the scene. I remember watching his early fights and just being Amazed by him. As I said I grew up in the martial arts trained in multiple disciplines and he was so amazing because he's so athletic and he had wrestling and striking and excellent Jiu-Jitsu and he's so Tactical. But again how did he come back after a 15-month layoff and look better than he ever has against the guy that if it were not for Jones would go down as the best light heavyweight ever.

He did look good, and so did Cormier, up until the shin to the head.

[Poet]

Jones is a god. He needs to stay out of his own way though.

[Jsteve01]

Jones is a god. He needs to stay out of his own way though. must be something about that last name and amazing Fighters aye kinger?

[Poet]

must be something about that last name and amazing Fighters aye kinger?

:lol:

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I am really looking forward to tonight’s fight. Dave, you should try to catch it. This is one of the best fight cards of the year. There are 6-8 interesting fights on the card, and Britain’s most popular fighter is the main event.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

http://m.ufc.com/event/UFC-217

[ShaneFalco]

after watching Ultimate fighter, cant wait to see dillashaw and garbrandt go at it.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

after watching Ultimate fighter, cant wait to see dillashaw and garbrandt go at it.

Cody is one of my favorite fighters

[ShaneFalco]

https://media.giphy.com/media/3ohzUhzrYLLyhkUVrO/giphy.gif

[ShaneFalco]

https://media.giphy.com/media/xTiIzvJSa4mVq42YRa/giphy.gif

been waiting months for this fight

[ShaneFalco]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MMAStreams/comments/7arvzc/ufc_217_bisping_vs_stpierre_1000pm_et/

[ShaneFalco]

https://twitter.com/ufc/status/927015833842286592

[ShaneFalco]

Dillashaw takes down cody. Omg!

[Hawgdriver]

I enjoyed those matches. GSP looks solid.

[ShaneFalco]

hell of a night. 2 knockouts and 1 choke out by st pierre.

great fights. love the ufc

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

This was an amazing card. I don’t see GSP staying in the middleweight division. I think Whittaker is a bad matchup for him and he’s next in line for a title fight.

[Simple Jaded]

Garbrant went out like a bitch.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Dave-

This card is coming up in two weeks, over in Liverpool. Hopefully you can catch it on tv. There are two fighters from England who are exceptional (Darren Till and Arnold Allen). Till is a world class fighter, but unfortunately his strength might be outmatched against Thompson, who is arguably the most dangerous striker in the history of the UFC.

This will be a good card for you to watch if you’re interested in learning a little about some of the European fighters.

http://http://www.ufc.com/event/fight-night-liverpool-2018?redirect=no (http://www.ufc.com/event/fight-night-liverpool-2018?redirect=no)

[Valar Morghulis]

Dave-

This card is coming up in two weeks, over in Liverpool. Hopefully you can catch it on tv. There are two fighters from England who are exceptional (Darren Till and Arnold Allen). Till is a world class fighter, but unfortunately his strength might be outmatched against Thompson, who is arguably the most dangerous striker in the history of the UFC.

This will be a good card for you to watch if you’re interested in learning a little about some of the European fighters.

http://http://www.ufc.com/event/fight-night-liverpool-2018?redirect=no (http://www.ufc.com/event/fight-night-liverpool-2018?redirect=no)

I will try to check it out

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Dave-



http://http://www.ufc.com/event/fight-night-liverpool-2018?redirect=no (http://www.ufc.com/event/fight-night-liverpool-2018?redirect=no)

The main event just started. This could be one of the best striking matchups we’ve seen in the ufc.

[ShaneFalco]

it just started? shit its like 1pm

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

it just started? shit its like 1pm

It’s in England, so the card started almost 3 hours ago. It’s on FS1. Till vs Thompson in round 3

[ShaneFalco]

UFC 249.

bra.

https://twitter.com/BetsafePeru/status/1259329136549642243

[Poet]

This was an amazing card. I don’t see GSP staying in the middleweight division. I think Whittaker is a bad matchup for him and he’s next in line for a title fight.

GSP has no bad matchups because he is the GOAT.

[ShaneFalco]

tony is just walking into haymakers jeez

[ShaneFalco]

dude tony is a warrior but jsut got destroyed by a lethal counter puncher

[ShaneFalco]

https://twitter.com/isaccshadwick/status/1259348854840987648

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

UFC 249.

bra.

https://twitter.com/BetsafePeru/status/1259329136549642243

That knock out was viscous.

It was so fun to have sport again last night, and it was a great card to boot.

[Poet]

We are robbed of the Tony vs Khabib fight, though. Gaejthe is going to get killed by Khabib. You either stay off the cage or get destroyed.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

We are robbed of the Tony vs Khabib fight, though. Gaejthe is going to get killed by Khabib. You either stay off the cage or get destroyed.

I’m not so sure. I think Gaethje has as good of a shot of beating him as anyone in that division.

[Poet]

I’m not so sure. I think Gaethje has as good of a shot of beating him as anyone in that division.

Which is almost zero. Gaejthe is an above average fighter who peaked. If he goes near the fence, if he can't stay off the fence, he losses. The best MMA strikers are still average at best boxers. You would need to find a guy who has a brutal ground game and take down defense, that can also stop the unique variety of Khabib, who also has real hands. Not 'MMA' hands, real hands. Not just knockout power hands, real hands.

It's a shame because I used to really like Khabib.

[ShaneFalco]

mcgregor got something for khabib in the rematch

[Poet]

mcgregor got something for khabib in the rematch

No, he doesn't. McGregor is a great striker whose good for two rounds, three at most. Khabib abused him.

McGregor's best chance of winning is landing a weird strike like the shoulder strike he caught Cowboy with. If they fought 100 times, McGregor losses 97 of them, if I'm being generous.

[ShaneFalco]

No, he doesn't. McGregor is a great striker whose good for two rounds, three at most. Khabib abused him.

McGregor's best chance of winning is landing a weird strike like the shoulder strike he caught Cowboy with. If they fought 100 times, McGregor losses 97 of them, if I'm being generous.

Mcgregor was drunk on fame and being rich at that point. He didnt look like the same fighter. He is refocused now.

[Poet]

Mcgregor was drunk on fame and being rich at that point. He didnt look like the same fighter. He is refocused now.

Khabib violated his spirit. McGregor is not what you think he is. I'm sorry. He will always let you down when he has to face a greater foe. He couldn't beat Floyd when that old man didn't train until the last two weeks. He couldn't beat Khabib and most people knew that. He couldn't prove them wrong. He won't prove them wrong on Khabib again, either. Khabib is an actual all-time great. McGregor probably isn't.

Ireland could never stand before Russia.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Which is almost zero. Gaejthe is an above average fighter who peaked. If he goes near the fence, if he can't stay off the fence, he losses. The best MMA strikers are still average at best boxers. You would need to find a guy who has a brutal ground game and take down defense, that can also stop the unique variety of Khabib, who also has real hands. Not 'MMA' hands, real hands. Not just knockout power hands, real hands.

It's a shame because I used to really like Khabib.

Khabib is a mauler with elite ground and pound. He is not one of the better strikers in that weight class. Gaethje is a better striker, and was also an all American wrestler in college, so he might have the take down defense needed. If it stays upright Gaethje wins.
Having said that, I wouldn’t pick Gaethje to win. I wouldn’t pick anyone to beat that guy unless he moves up to welterweight.

[Poet]

Khabib is a mauler with elite ground and pound. He is not one of the better strikers in that weight class. Gaethje is a better striker, and was also an all American wrestler in college, so he might have the take down defense needed. If it stays upright Gaethje wins.

He's not an elite striker, but he even managed to catch Connor. Khabib can win standing or on the ground, Gaethje can't. All American wrestlers means nothing against Khabib. Gaejthe doesn't even make it the fourth.

Khabib is different. Gaejthe isn't different. He's very good. But he's a punch drunk fool. He's basically the Homer Simpson of MMA. If you want to watch that man die against Khabib, that's fine. But he has a family...a ******* family, man.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I’m not saying I would pick him to beat Khabib.

[Poet]

I’m not saying I would pick him to beat Khabib.

If Gaejthe beat Khabib, it would be a bigger upset than when Tyson lost to that scrub via his fight in Japan.

Because Gaejthe is a glorified journeymen. That's all. It would be like if the zero win Lions beat the 98 Denver Broncos. Or Johnny Manziel dunking on Shaq.

[Poet]

I missed you, Al.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I missed you, Al.

I missed you too amigo.

[Buff]

UFC is generally not my thing -- but I'm so starved for sports I watched the whole undercard that was on ESPN Saturday.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

UFC is generally not my thing -- but I'm so starved for sports I watched the whole undercard that was on ESPN Saturday.

There were a few decent fights on the undercard.

[ShaneFalco]

https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousMMA/status/1259929452395593728

[ShaneFalco]

https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousMMA/status/1259929334191665156

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Connor is usually good for some headlines.

[Poet]

I almost like Connor.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I almost like Connor.

Just when you think he’s brilliant he does something incredibly stupid.

[Poet]

Just when you think he’s brilliant he does something incredibly stupid.

Part of the brilliance is that his stupidity only helps out after he's done being stupid.

I will say this for him...at heart I don't think he's a bad person. He's not like War Machine or something. He is an overgrown toddler in many ways. But, he has kindness in him. He's great to his fans. He clearly has affection for a lot of people, and when he losses he admits it....then talks smack a little later, but that's business. A lot of what he does really is just business...but I think he also uses that as a shield sometimes, too. It's a sort of evergreen-mulligan, in a way.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Part of the brilliance is that his stupidity only helps out after he's done being stupid.

I will say this for him...at heart I don't think he's a bad person. He's not like War Machine or something. He is an overgrown toddler in many ways. But, he has kindness in him. He's great to his fans. He clearly has affection for a lot of people, and when he losses he admits it....then talks smack a little later, but that's business. A lot of what he does really is just business...but I think he also uses that as a shield sometimes, too. It's a sort of evergreen-mulligan, in a way.

Very well said; although I’m personally not a fan I do respect him.

[Poet]

Very well said; although I’m personally not a fan I do respect him.

He's an icon. There is no doubt about it. I will also give him this - I never saw a McGregor fight and thought 'well shit, that was a waste of money' because he's special. If he ends a fight early, it's not some sloppy awkward KO. And after the fight he makes it something, even if it ended early. He *is* good for the sport and *is* a worthy champion. He just happened to show why boxers are by far the better strikers, but his family eats off that forever. So **** me.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

He's an icon. There is no doubt about it. I will also give him this - I never saw a McGregor fight and thought 'well shit, that was a waste of money' because he's special. If he ends a fight early, it's not some sloppy awkward KO. And after the fight he makes it something, even if it ended early. He *is* good for the sport and *is* a worthy champion. He just happened to show why boxers are by far the better strikers, but his family eats off that forever. So **** me.

When did you become an mma fan?

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Speaking of mma, there’s a fight night on espn+ right now; 2-3 fights left on the card. I’m looking forward to seeing OVSP make his heavyweight debut.

[Jsteve01]

Justin shocked me.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Last night’s card was pretty good. It was hard to see T-Wood get dominated like that but I’m excited to see Gilbert Burns contend for the title. That guy is so well rounded it’s scary.

[Poet]

Gaejthe has CTE.

[Jsteve01]

I can't believe we're not talking about this more. They've had so many good cards recently.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I can't believe we're not talking about this more. They've had so many good cards recently.

I’ve watched most of them. In fact I paid for Masvidal’s ppv, which was a huge disappointment. It was evident at the end of the first round Jorge was not in shape for that fight.

[Jsteve01]

I’ve watched most of them. In fact I paid for Masvidal’s ppv, which was a huge disappointment. It was evident at the end of the first round Jorge was not in shape for that fight.

Lol what did you expect Al? He had six days to prep. there's being in shape and there's a fight camp. I want to see him run that one back with a full three or four month fight camp.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Lol what did you expect Al? He had six days to prep. there's being in shape and there's a fight camp. I want to see him run that one back with a full three or four month fight camp.

As do I. That’s the fight I wanted to see and that isn’t what Jorge is like in shape. He didn’t use the ring at all. He didn’t throw a lot of combinations. That was not Gamebread.
You are correct, but part of me was hoping he was training as if something might happen and he would get the call. I wish Dana wouldn’t have played hardball with him initially.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I can't believe we're not talking about this more. They've had so many good cards recently.

Do you think Gaethje has much of a chance?

[Magnificent Seven]

McGregor lost!

Poirer stuns McGregor via 2nd-round TKO!

[tomjonesrocks]

Pretty shocked and as a McGregor fan, a little disappointed. He was leading handily until the KO.

Thought the card overall was pretty disappointing with the exception of the Muradov KO (which otherwise wasn't that great of a fight).

Was looking forward to the card and am leaving kind of blah about it. I wasn't all that shocked by the Chandler win...

[Magnificent Seven]

Pretty shocked and as a McGregor fan, a little disappointed. He was leading handily until the KO.

Thought the card overall was pretty disappointing with the exception of the Muradov KO (which otherwise wasn't that great of a fight).

Was looking forward to the card and am leaving kind of blah about it. I wasn't all that shocked by the Chandler win...

I am sure we will have McGregor vs. Poirer III in the future. (Winner takes all)

[tomjonesrocks]

I am sure we will have McGregor vs. Poirer III in the future. (Winner takes all)

Sounds like even though it seemed to me Conor was landing his shots meanwhile those leg kicks badly damaged him. Left on crutches.

[BroncoJoe]

https://scontent.fapa1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/142297653_10222530020012415_2694563827908575935_o. jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=2&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=K2lyKXwSgJwAX-8Azlq&_nc_ht=scontent.fapa1-2.fna&oh=e858ac29605e4e83f575f1af3cb8c0b7&oe=603566C9

[Magnificent Seven]

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:lol:

[GEM]

Pretty shocked and as a McGregor fan, a little disappointed. He was leading handily until the KO.

Thought the card overall was pretty disappointing with the exception of the Muradov KO (which otherwise wasn't that great of a fight).

Was looking forward to the card and am leaving kind of blah about it. I wasn't all that shocked by the Chandler win...

I think Chandler is kind of exciting for the future. We had a good time watching.

[GEM]

I am sure we will have McGregor vs. Poirer III in the future. (Winner takes all)

I'm looking forward to that.

[tomjonesrocks]

Anyone catching the foot-stomping action tonight?

[underrated29]

Anyone catching the foot-stomping action tonight?

Who is fighting tonight and what time?

The avs play tonight so I want to watch the hockey game, but I will proably watch both split screen.

[tomjonesrocks]

Who is fighting tonight and what time?

The avs play tonight so I want to watch the hockey game, but I will proably watch both split screen.

UFC 258. Green's health problems unfortunately hurt this card - so now the highlight is Kamaru "watch your feet" Usman vs. Burns. Still - I'm tuned in...

[underrated29]

I wathed and the avs play tomorrow

[tomjonesrocks]

The Blaydes KO was probably my favorite happening this year so far in the UFC. I hate Blaydes' style and love Lewis - he's hilarious and an exciting watch in the cage. Brutal KO.

Don't know really how to do the online gambling thing but wish I'd had money on it lol

[underrated29]

The Blaydes KO was probably my favorite happening this year so far in the UFC. I hate Blaydes' style and love Lewis - he's hilarious and an exciting watch in the cage. Brutal KO.

Don't know really how to do the online gambling thing but wish I'd had money on it lol

You download draft kings app on your phone. It is easy. You should let someone here refer you. They get free $$$ out of it. If you are going to sign up anyway, might as well help someone out.

But on DK- it allows you to enter sports book and bet away on a whole list of different things.

[Jsteve01]

Francis Ngannou is going to be a legitimate problem for anyone. I was talking to friends last week about the fact that after we watching the first fight with miocic I couldn't believe that he was actually able to even last two rounds. He had the adrenaline dump and somehow managed to not get put out until the 5th. Now that he knows how to sprawl and even reverse takedown attempts I can't wait to see what he does

[tomjonesrocks]

That Weidman injury was up there with some of the worst NFL injuries I’ve seen. Good lord...

Loved that Masvidal got KO’d after spending all that time repping that douchenozzle Paul...

[SR]

Yeah...Weidman's leg turned to rubber bands after that. Really sad to watch. And nauseating.

[Pick 6]

Masvidal is a cool fighter, but he was never good enough to be a champion. Usman is literally three times better than him.

[ShaneFalco]

https://twitter.com/jscooper815/status/1388712361960251399?s=20

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/837521235293372429/838272661292711956/unknown.png

[Hawgdriver]

Good night.

[King87]

:shocked:

[King87]

Who do you all have as the MMA goat?

[King87]

Who do you all have as the MMA goat?

It's the Eagle, let's be honest

[Buff]

It's the Eagle, let's be honest

Undisputed at this point imo.

[King87]

Undisputed at this point imo.

Your avatar is sporting a similar hat!

[King87]

Rip McGregor

[tomjonesrocks]

Rip McGregor

Burns is a straight bitch. That's my main takeaway from this one.

Terrible night for Dana. O'Malley couldn't finish a tomato can off the street, Yana gets KTFO, Burns lays and prays and closes with about 10 illegal strikes in a miserable watch and Conor snaps his leg in the first.

Hardy getting starched the only real highlight tonight IMO.

I don't really gamble on anything but I'm tempted to just start betting all the lay and pray grapplers out there as they seem to pull out shitty decisions 75% of the time against similar level competition strikers. I can't believe they don't stand that shit up more - it's completely ruining fights.

[aberdien]

Loved seeing domestic abuser Greg Hardy get his ass beat by a chubby Australian.

https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1414062237166280709?s=20

[aberdien]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5_WOBVWYAQGqhR?format=jpg&name=small

[Jsteve01]

We really need to get active on this threat again. Current favorites? Charles Oliveira looks to be the class at lightweight but we'll see when he matches up against islam. I love the fact that the only guy to beat Israel is now fighting in the ufc. It'll be really interesting to see how he handles this next fight.

[King87]

We really need to get active on this threat again. Current favorites? Charles Oliveira looks to be the class at lightweight but we'll see when he matches up against islam. I love the fact that the only guy to beat Israel is now fighting in the ufc. It'll be really interesting to see how he handles this next fight.

I miss Khabib. Charlie Olives vs. him is actually a better fight than Khabib and GSP was a few years ago.

Israel is probably my favorite fighter atm.

[King87]

Who do you all have as the MMA goat?


It's the Eagle, let's be honest

Thoughts?

It would be Jones, but he's obviously a rampant cheater.

It could be GSP but he's had puzzling 'victories' via decision and one horrible loss.

Is it Khabib? He essentially moped up McGregor, when that still meant something, Poirier, and Gaethje with ultimate ease. I mean against Justin he didn't go for an arm-bar because he didn't want to break dude's arm in front of his parents.

But, he missed a lot of time with injuries and doesn't have a ton of defenses.

[Jsteve01]

Thoughts?

It would be Jones, but he's obviously a rampant cheater.

It could be GSP but he's had puzzling 'victories' via decision and one horrible loss.

Is it Khabib? He essentially moped up McGregor, when that still meant something, Poirier, and Gaethje with ultimate ease. I mean against Justin he didn't go for an arm-bar because he didn't want to break dude's arm in front of his parents.

But, he missed a lot of time with injuries and doesn't have a ton of defenses.

I think Silva still has to be in that Convo. My only issue with the Eagle and he was supremely dominant is that he didn't have as many defenses as I would have liked to have seen. And the lightweight division wasn't nearly as stacked as it is now. I agree I think he versus Charles would be an amazing matchup. Love Israel as well. Other than the Romero fight his battles are always amazing

[Jsteve01]

You know Kamaru is in that conversation as well. The guy that is an enigma for me is Chandler. One of the biggest issues about a testosterone driven sport like MMA is that someone like Chandler and we've also seen it with kamaru at some point because of their explosive athleticism and power become obsessed with the stand-up game. Sure people like to see people stand in trade. But Chandler if he mixed in a good dose of his wrestling which by the way is explosive if you've never seen the video of him wrestling bigger guys from his team like kamaru then go find it. Anyway if he had utilized his wrestling more versus Justin I think he wins that fight.

But there was that back and forth machismo crap prior to the fight where we're just going to stand there and trade well that's not your best tool. Sure you've got power but you're also probably the best athlete in that division. A world-class wrestler and if you look at what the eagle did he's a great example. He actually had underrated striking but he never neglected his wrestling. And it was never lay and pray like happened with GSP at the end.

[King87]

I think Silva still has to be in that Convo. My only issue with the Eagle and he was supremely dominant is that he didn't have as many defenses as I would have liked to have seen. And the lightweight division wasn't nearly as stacked as it is now. I agree I think he versus Charles would be an amazing matchup. Love Israel as well. Other than the Romero fight his battles are always amazing

I think Silva tainted himself with his losing streak and presumed cheating.

Eagle's resume has flaws, you're right. This is what I'm thinking: Khabib and Charlie won fights against a lot of the same guys, but many of those same guys are giving Charlie tons of issues. Khabib crushed them. No one has even stopped Khabib from dragging them to the edge of the cage, let alone put up major resistance. The flipside is that Charlie might be the one who could threaten Khabib on the ground.

I would also say that Khabib is the reason why the division back then didn't feel stacked. He ragdolled: Barboza, Iaquantia (who gave him a decent fight, to be fair, but ultimately he was outclassed), RDA, Horcher, and Michael Johnson. Those were guys who were cemented in the top ten/thought to be contenders. And during his career Khabib had a lot of injury issues as well; he had to overcome a lot.

tl;dr if ultimate dominance is the measuring stick then Khabib's dominance is probably GOAT to me.

[Jsteve01]

I think Silva tainted himself with his losing streak and presumed cheating.

Eagle's resume has flaws, you're right. This is what I'm thinking: Khabib and Charlie won fights against a lot of the same guys, but many of those same guys are giving Charlie tons of issues. Khabib crushed them. No one has even stopped Khabib from dragging them to the edge of the cage, let alone put up major resistance. The flipside is that Charlie might be the one who could threaten Khabib on the ground.

I would also say that Khabib is the reason why the division back then didn't feel stacked. He ragdolled: Barboza, Iaquantia (who gave him a decent fight, to be fair, but ultimately he was outclassed), RDA, Horcher, and Michael Johnson. Those were guys who were cemented in the top ten/thought to be contenders. And during his career Khabib had a lot of injury issues as well; he had to overcome a lot.

tl;dr if ultimate dominance is the measuring stick then Khabib's dominance is probably GOAT to me.

I think RDA gave him a pretty nice fight. And we were wrong to leave out Mighty Mouse in this Convo. As cringe as he is if Cejudo hadn't hung it up so early he might have been in this Convo as well. He put it on The Mouse.

[King87]

I think RDA gave him a pretty nice fight. And we were wrong to leave out Mighty Mouse in this Convo. As cringe as he is if Cejudo hadn't hung it up so early he might have been in this Convo as well. He put it on The Mouse.

Mighty Mouse fell off, and I just hate him. He's in the convo, but I'm just blinded by disgust.

Cejudo is a monster, but...meh. Being GOAT has to, on some level, inspire fans to give a shit. No one cared about him. This is rude and illogical, but also somehow true from the human condition.

Real quick: your point about Usman being on the standup train is well taken. I think that because his knees are so shot, it's easier to be on his feet than it is to use his legs for wrestling. He also wanted to make a point about cracking Jorge and Colby in the mouth. But I still think you're right. <3 <3 <3

[King87]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ4_yZvdiz8

[King87]

Should Charlie O get an immediate rematch?

What do you do with the heavyweight division once Francis leaves?

Why do people like the Diaz brothers?

[GEM]

Chandler vs Poirer was amazing!

[GEM]

Should Charlie O get an immediate rematch?

What do you do with the heavyweight division once Francis leaves?

Why do people like the Diaz brothers?

Cause girls like big mouths and it feels like they were done wrong by White.

[BroncoNut]

I really like Chael Sonnen. I think he is funny and clever witted

[chazoe60]

UfC adjacent, didn't want to make a new thread.

If you want to see quite possibly the quickest human being on the planet, watch this video of Vito Arujau who is the best wrestler to watch right now. This guy is so slick.


https://youtu.be/Int-FO1x8wU