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VonDoom
02-07-2017, 04:24 PM
Nicki Jhabvala ‏@NickiJhabvala 22m22 minutes ago

Vance Joseph opens by congratulating @Terrell_Davis on his HOF election. "He's a great Bronco, he' s a great example for our players."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 21m21 minutes ago

Joseph: "My first call was to Mike McCoy ... being an ex-head coach, that was important, being a successful coord. ... was more important."

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis 21m21 minutes ago

Mike McCoy's first call was to Jeff Davidson as OL coach. #9sports

Nicki Jhabvala ‏@NickiJhabvala 22m22 minutes ago

Vance Joseph on Mike McCoy: "I wanted a guy who could build a system to our players, and Mike was the guy."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 20m20 minutes ago

Joseph: "Our TE group is going to be important to our offensive production."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 20m20 minutes ago

Vance Joseph, on Eric Studesville: "He chose to stay here with us ... having Eric was a must."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 19m19 minutes ago

Vance Joseph on the defensive staff; "It was important that we keep that group somewhat intact."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 19m19 minutes ago

Vance Joseph: "Keeping Joe Woods as a defensive coordinator was vital."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 17m17 minutes ago

Vance Joseph said "3 or 4 teams" were chasing OLBs coach Fred Pagac, who returns for the 2017 season.

Cameron Wolfe ‏@CameronWolfe 17m17 minutes ago

Vance Joseph said Joe Woods will keep #Broncos defensive scheme in place as it was with Wade Phillips in charge.

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 17m17 minutes ago

Vance Joseph said it was "a long search" for the ST coordinator before hiring Brock Olivo -- "a great communicator, great energy."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 15m15 minutes ago

Former Broncos strength/conditioning assistant Cedric Smith will return, Joseph announced, to work under Luke Richesson.

VonDoom
02-07-2017, 04:29 PM
Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 15m15 minutes ago

McCoy said his family was excited about the possibility of coming back to Denver after Joseph called him about the OC gig.

Nicki Jhabvala ‏@NickiJhabvala 15m15 minutes ago

Mike McCoy: "To be able to come back a second time is something special. I understand what the expectations are here every year."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 15m15 minutes ago

McCoy: "It was an easy decision to make" to come back to Denver.

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 14m14 minutes ago

McCoy: "We're going to do what our players do best ... it's going to change from week to week ... whatever we think we need to do to win."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 14m14 minutes ago

McCoy: Coaching staff "is re-evaluating" the roster right now.

Nicki Jhabvala ‏@NickiJhabvala 14m14 minutes ago

McCoy: "We're going to build our system over time. We're working on putting the playbook together."

Nicki Jhabvala ‏@NickiJhabvala 13m13 minutes ago

McCoy: "We're going to give the players some flexibility. ... This is going to be a very player-friendly system."

Nicki Jhabvala ‏@NickiJhabvala 13m13 minutes ago

McCoy on Siemian & Lynch: "It's going to be an open competition with those two players."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 11m11 minutes ago

McCoy: The QBs "will start off on the same page of the playbook ... I'm big into talking to QBs & installing from a week-to-week basis."

Nicki Jhabvala ‏@NickiJhabvala 10m10 minutes ago

Mike McCoy: "I've got a burning desire to call plays and I did not do that the last 4 years. And that was hard."

Nicki Jhabvala ‏@NickiJhabvala 9m9 minutes ago

McCoy: "I'm excited to get back in this, to call plays. ... It's not my offense, it's the Broncos' offense."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 9m9 minutes ago

McCoy said he will lean on Jeff Davidson "with a lot of things on game day."

Nicki Jhabvala ‏@NickiJhabvala 9m9 minutes ago

Mike McCoy: "Billy (Musgrave) once told me, 'If you do your work Mon.-Sat., it should make calling the plays on game day a lot easier.'"

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 8m8 minutes ago

McCoy: "I'm a lot better coach now than I was four years ago because of what I've been through -- both good and bad."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 8m8 minutes ago

McCoy, on the QBs: "I'm happy with the two guys that we have."

Nicki Jhabvala ‏@NickiJhabvala 7m7 minutes ago

McCoy on Broncos' O-line: "We're in the process right now of evaluating that. ... As an entire offense, we all can improve."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 7m7 minutes ago

McCoy: "Our offense will go as far as our offensive line will take them."

Nicki Jhabvala ‏@NickiJhabvala 6m6 minutes ago

Mike McCoy on Broncos' O-line: "Jeff Davidson and John (Benton) will make them play better and they WILL play better next year."

VonDoom
02-07-2017, 04:31 PM
Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 6m6 minutes ago

Joe Woods: "I just can't wait to get going."

Nicki Jhabvala ‏@NickiJhabvala 5m5 minutes ago

Joe Woods on replacing @sonofbum: "Wade Phillips is going to go down as one of the best D-coordinators in the history of the NFL."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 5m5 minutes ago

Woods said he's had "great conversations" with Wade Phillips, said, "he's very happy for me."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 5m5 minutes ago

Woods: "The blueprint ... that's not going to change ... there are some things we can tweak to help enhance it."

Nicki Jhabvala ‏@NickiJhabvala 4m4 minutes ago

Woods: "Wade always gave us the opportunity to give our input on the gameplan. So I've been in front of the whole group. They know me."

Nicki Jhabvala ‏@NickiJhabvala 3m3 minutes ago

Woods on D's greatest need for improvement: "It's the run game. Last year was a little different for us in terms of how teams attacked us."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 3m3 minutes ago

Woods: Defensive terminology "is going to be exactly the same."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 3m3 minutes ago

Woods: "We want to fit the scheme to the players."

Nicki Jhabvala ‏@NickiJhabvala 2m2 minutes ago

Woods on DBs: "Definitely have big personalities in the room, but you learn those are the guys who are going to make big plays for you."

VonDoom
02-07-2017, 04:32 PM
Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 1m1 minute ago

Olivo said his interview with Vance Joseph lasted six hours ... thanks him for the "confidence to go w/ a first-time coordinator."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 2m2 minutes ago

Olivo: "It's an honor to be a part of what many people believe to be the flagship franchise of the NFL."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 1m1 minute ago

Olivo: Without Dave Toub, "I wouldn't be here right now."

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis 1m1 minute ago

Brock Olivo is an earnest speaker. Enthusiastic.

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 9m9 minutes ago

Olivo said Toub was "very proud" ... compared it to a father sending his son off on a scholarship.

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 9m9 minutes ago

Olivo said Vance Joseph understands "the one-down philosophy," of how special teams has one chance to swing the game, not 3 downs.

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 9m9 minutes ago

Olivo: Identity is going to be "fast, smart, tough" ... says he knows the roster pretty well because of coaching against it.

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 8m8 minutes ago

Olivo: "We know what we're walking into here ... we love it."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 8m8 minutes ago

Olivo said game-management was a part of the interview -- will work with Joseph & analytics guru Mitch Tanney on getting that down pat.

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 6m6 minutes ago

Olivo said Toub taught him that you have to make sure the players not only learn what to do, but why they do it.

Cameron Wolfe ‏@CameronWolfe 4m4 minutes ago

Brock Olivo says we're going to KILL it on special teams - Keep It Likeable & Learnable. He's going to keep it simple.

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 4m4 minutes ago

Olivo is the kind of coach who will have no problem getting guys to go through a wall for him. A ball of energy. That's how he played, too.

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis 2m2 minutes ago

Brock Olivo on how to stop Tyreek Hill: "The flu. Flat tire, can't make it to the game.'' #9sports

dogfish
02-07-2017, 05:24 PM
well, that's a whole bunch of right things being said. . . now they just have to do the hard part, and actually go out and do it. . .


also. . .


Mike McCoy: "I've got a burning desire to call plays and I did not do that the last 4 years. And that was hard."

Nicki Jhabvala ‏@NickiJhabvala 9m9 minutes ago

McCoy: "I'm excited to get back in this, to call plays. ... It's not my offense, it's the Broncos' offense."

suck it, U29! :heh: :lol:

NightTerror218
02-07-2017, 06:03 PM
Inlike mccoy emphasis that ol will need to play better. Obviously a point of coaching emphasis is to improve that group.

Joel
02-08-2017, 08:17 AM
Inlike mccoy emphasis that ol will need to play better. Obviously a point of coaching emphasis is to improve that group.
Still can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear. Anyone expecting McCoy, Davidson and Benton to turn Schofield or Garcia into All Pros will be sorely disappointed.

Valar Morghulis
02-08-2017, 09:03 AM
Still can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear. Anyone expecting McCoy, Davidson and Benton to turn Schofield or Garcia into All Pros will be sorely disappointed.

I bet Garcia can be coached up

Joel
02-08-2017, 09:09 AM
I bet Garcia can be coached up
Sure, but to what level? He's a good run blocker, but ANY kind of misdirection leaves him chasing his tail even after two years on the field. Then again, the same applies to Paradis and he's NOT a good run blocker (because he lacks the strength) but the consensus is he's the second coming of Tom Nalen.

Cugel
02-08-2017, 04:25 PM
Still can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear. Anyone expecting McCoy, Davidson and Benton to turn Schofield or Garcia into All Pros will be sorely disappointed.

At least you caught the important quote: " Mike McCoy on Broncos' O-line: "Jeff Davidson and John (Benton) will make them play better and they WILL play better next year."

That means you should not expect the Broncos to go out in FA and replace the entire OL, just because Joel wants them to.

They are going to work with the majority of starters from 2016 and try and improve them, rather than just replace them.

I still expect them to go out in FA and acquire a RT because Donald Stephenson just flat sucked.

I still expect them to re-sign Russell Okung because there's nobody better available.

I still expect them to draft a couple of OL in the draft, but not in the first round and none of them will be intended as starters in 2017, rather long term developmental projects. Maybe in 2018 one or more of their 2017 OL draft picks will be ready to step in as a starter. Hopefully, they can come into the rotation later in the year, but we'll see.

In short, expect the OL to be a patch-work similar to what it was in 2016. Hopefully better coaching can help these guys, but no, I don't expect them to suddenly become All-Pros just because there's a new OL coach replacing Clancey Barone.

The line will continue to struggle in some games. And the QB is likely to get hurt as a result. That's why they are glad they have 2 QBs in Paxton & Trevor, because the chances of Trevor Siemian lasting the entire season without having to miss any games due to injury are not red hot. He's more injury prone than Tony Romo.

Cugel
02-08-2017, 04:32 PM
Sure, but to what level? He's a good run blocker, but ANY kind of misdirection leaves him chasing his tail even after two years on the field. Then again, the same applies to Paradis and he's NOT a good run blocker (because he lacks the strength) but the consensus is he's the second coming of Tom Nalen.

Paradis was ranked by Football Outsiders as the #1 C in the NFL in 2016. You can argue with them, but not successfully.

The big problem for him is "how healthy is he going to be after his two hip surgeries?" Supposedly the doctors are "encouraged" by his response to the surgery. He's back on the bicycle the day after the surgery because doctors learned from the tragic case of Bo Jackson to keep the player active after the surgery.

We'll just have to see how the new system and his recovery from surgery goes in the off-season. He is now insisting that he's going to be ready for training camp, but that's wildly unlikely. They have got Connor McGovern, who is a big mauler who didn't get onto the field at all in his rookie year. They will probably want to coach him up a bit and he could be useful in rotation. He might even get the start at C if Paradis isn't ready game 1. That would be a cheaper alternative to going out in FA and getting a veteran C who can play if Paradis can't go.

As for Max Garcia, he's a mauler, like Louis Vasquez, (who they let go because he didn't fit into the ZBS very well). His problems in 2016, according to former teammate and fellow OL Tyler Polumbus, was that he was too aggressive and would attack his man from the snap, getting out of alignment with his fellow linemen all too often. That led to gaps in the blocking scheme.

Well, that's the kind of error that can be fixed with coaching and they are going to try and do it. He's still a young player, only entering his 2nd year as a starter, so we can expect some improvement. He's supposedly not great in space, but they are playing him at G and a new blocking scheme won't require him to kick out and move like the ZBS. They really didn't have the players to make that system work here in Denver, and they still don't have them now.

Admittedly, the OL isn't going to be great in any case, but it could be significantly improved over last years' group, even though they are keeping 3 or 4 starters from 2016.

Canmore
02-08-2017, 04:35 PM
Paradis was ranked by Football Outsiders as the #1 C in the NFL in 2016. You can argue with them, but not successfully.

As for Max Garcia, he's a mauler, like Louis Vasquez, (who they let go because he didn't fit into the ZBS very well). His problems in 2016, according to former teammate and fellow OL Tyler Polumbus, was that he was too aggressive and would attack his man from the snap, getting out of alignment with his fellow linemen all too often. That led to gaps in the blocking scheme.

Well, that's the kind of error that can be fixed with coaching and they are going to try and do it. He's still a young player, only entering his 2nd year as a starter, so we can expect some improvement. He's supposedly not great in space, but they are playing him at G and a new blocking scheme won't require him to kick out and move like the ZBS. They really didn't have the players to make that system work here in Denver, and they still don't have them now.

Admittedly, the OL isn't going to be great in any case, but it could be significantly improved over last years' group, even though they are keeping 3 or 4 starters from 2016.

Want to believe that, but don't.

TXBRONC
02-08-2017, 06:56 PM
Still can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear. Anyone expecting McCoy, Davidson and Benton to turn Schofield or Garcia into All Pros will be sorely disappointed.

I haven't read any post that suggested that they could turn those guys into all pros.

Denver Native (Carol)
02-08-2017, 09:49 PM
ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- Tuesday's series of press conferences and meet-and-greets with Broncos coaches offered plenty of key items to disseminate as the Broncos' offseason gets underway.

A few pertinent takeaways from the day's proceedings:

1. JOSEPH "ABSOLUTELY" COMMITTED TO SIEMIAN AND LYNCH

Head Coach Vance Joseph made his intentions at quarterback clear, reiterating that his "vision" is to have Trevor Siemian and Paxton Lynch in an open competition for the starting job.

"They're both smart guys. Obviously different skill sets, but I'm committed to both of those kids," Joseph said. "They're good football players, and we've got to build around those guys."

The subject of Tony Romo arose, given that the Cowboys quarterback has been the focal point of rumors and chatter in recent weeks, but Joseph dismissed that.

"That's not even possible. He's under contract right now, so we can't discuss that, obviously," Joseph said. "But we've got two guys [Siemian and Lynch] that are capable. They're two different guys. They're two young guys, and we're excited about them both."

2. THE OFFENSIVE GAME PLANS WILL CHANGE "WEEK TO WEEK"

rest - http://www.denverbroncos.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Eight-takeaways-from-the-Broncos-coaches-as-the-offseason-begins/c111d670-e45a-491a-9104-e5ad52a53feb

Hawgdriver
02-09-2017, 09:52 PM
Vance Joseph called our QB coordinator Bill Musgraves. Not Musgrave. Musgraves.

Hawgdriver
02-09-2017, 09:55 PM
And Brock Olivo....

Brock Olivio.

Vance Joseph is a derp and a bust. Heard it here first.

King87
02-10-2017, 12:40 AM
And Brock Olivo....

Brock Olivio.

Vance Joseph is a derp and a bust. Heard it here first.

People were calling him that when the Dolphins were losing in the second quarter.

But you're you, so I'll give it to ya.

Hawgdriver
02-10-2017, 01:13 AM
People were calling him that when the Dolphins were losing in the second quarter.

But you're you, so I'll give it to ya.

It's way more visceral to know the dude can't pronounce the names of the coaches he hired correctly.

King87
02-10-2017, 01:25 AM
I can't pronounce my own name when I'm super drunk and fighting a bear.

Was VJ super drunk and fighting a bear?

Hawgdriver
02-10-2017, 01:39 AM
I can't pronounce my own name when I'm super drunk and fighting a bear.

Was VJ super drunk and fighting a bear?

We can hope.

Probably nothing. But odd, I must declare.

Joel
02-10-2017, 12:19 PM
Vance Joseph called our QB coordinator Bill Musgraves. Not Musgrave. Musgraves.
Don't worry: It's just because this is the first time he's needed to know an offensive coachs name.

Buff
02-10-2017, 12:33 PM
And Brock Olivo....

Brock Olivio.

Vance Joseph is a derp and a bust. Heard it here first.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm or if you're genuinely concerned that our new coach is a moron. Maybe somewhere in the middle?

Hawgdriver
02-10-2017, 07:29 PM
I can't tell if this is sarcasm or if you're genuinely concerned that our new coach is a moron. Maybe somewhere in the middle?

Absolutely...I'm hyperbolizing but there is that kernal of wtf in there, because I'm so detail obsessed it seems alien to lack that reflexive knowledge.

But in the big picture, it lands squarely in BFD (dismissive) territory.

TXBRONC
02-15-2017, 06:35 PM
Vance Joseph called our QB coordinator Bill Musgraves. Not Musgrave. Musgraves.

You must be right.

Hawgdriver
02-15-2017, 11:39 PM
Want a link?

Joel
02-17-2017, 06:38 PM
I don't see the problem; Olivios Hamlet is legendary. And Musgraves Love is a classic.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
02-17-2017, 08:36 PM
Want a link?

Right now I want a cheeseburger

Hawgdriver
02-17-2017, 08:45 PM
How about some pizza. I can PM you a slice.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
02-17-2017, 09:29 PM
How about some pizza. I can PM you a slice.

I say tomato you say potato.


Come to think of it, I love pizza too.

Hawgdriver
02-17-2017, 09:39 PM
I say tomato you say potato.


Come to think of it, I love pizza too.

Technically, it was more of a 'I say potato you say tomato' affair.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
02-17-2017, 09:41 PM
Technically, it was more of a 'I say potato you say tomato' affair.

Very true

Cugel
02-21-2017, 11:32 AM
I can't pronounce my own name when I'm super drunk and fighting a bear.

Was VJ super drunk and fighting a bear?

Do you do that kind of thing on a regular basis? Seems to me that's a "once in a lifetime kind of mistake you don't get to repeat." :laugh:

Joel
02-21-2017, 01:45 PM
Do you do that kind of thing on a regular basis? Seems to me that's a "once in a lifetime kind of mistake you don't get to repeat." :laugh:
Depends on whether you use your brief opportunity to kick bear-ass or introduce yourself to it (and the latter's kind of inefficient, since it practically ensures you'll be getting "up close and personal" with bear-ass in a day or two.)

King87
02-21-2017, 02:03 PM
Do you do that kind of thing on a regular basis? Seems to me that's a "once in a lifetime kind of mistake you don't get to repeat." :laugh:

Bears fear me.

BroncoJoe
02-21-2017, 02:06 PM
Bears fear me.

Are you a hairy person? Like back hair and all?

King87
02-21-2017, 02:09 PM
Are you a hairy person? Like back hair and all?

I don't have too much back hair. I have a very hairy chest, though.

dogfish
02-21-2017, 04:17 PM
son of a bitch! effin' little weasel shanahan and the niners just hired john benton, our assistant O-line coach, away from us. . . seriously, we can't even keep dudes on our staff for one season without MFers poaching them? i get allowing your people to move, but this is kind of a kick in the nuts. . . i mean, it's not like we need the help developing our line or anything. . .


Benton was hired as the assistant offensive line coach in Denver after Vance Joseph was named the Broncos’ new head coach, but he won’t be on Joseph’s staff in 2017. Benton was granted permission to interview with the 49ers for their offensive line job and it apparently went well.

A day after Alex Marvez of Sporting News reported that Benton was finalizing a deal to join Kyle Shanahan’s staff, Matt Maiocco of CSN Bay Area reports that the agreement is in place. The move reunites Shanahan and Benton, who coached the offensive line in Houston when Shanahan was the offensive coordinator of the Texans for four seasons.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/02/21/49ers-hire-john-benton-as-offensive-line-coach/

DenBronx
02-21-2017, 04:42 PM
Who?

Joel
02-21-2017, 05:12 PM
son of a bitch! effin' little weasel shanahan and the niners just hired john benton, our assistant O-line coach, away from us. . . seriously, we can't even keep dudes on our staff for one season without MFers poaching them? i get allowing your people to move, but this is kind of a kick in the nuts. . . i mean, it's not like we need the help developing our line or anything. . .

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/02/21/49ers-hire-john-benton-as-offensive-line-coach/
Pretty sure all motive for Shanny Jr. to help the Broncos succeed ended the moment we hired Joseph: Shannys job is helping SF succeed, whoever else fails.


Who?
Jon Benton; he was the assistant line coach for Kubiak and Dennisons really good ones in Houston. Elway (or "Joseph," if one insists; more likely McCoy) hired him as our assistant line coach, leaving the door open for Shanny Jr. to offer him a promotion back to his old job: He's apparently walked through that door. Since Benton's been running the Jags line since McNair cleaned house in Houston and the Jags offense hasn't done squat (except spend big to sign Beadles away from us) I'm not sure it's such a huge loss: I'd rather have his Houston understudy Frank Pollack, but doubt he leaves Dallas any time soon.

If you're being sarcastic, my bad; hard to tell in text.

Cugel
03-01-2017, 10:16 AM
Apparently they already replaced that assistant coach with Matt Paradis' former OL coach at Boise state. He wanted to come and coach in the NFL so he left a job as a head OL coach in college and came to Denver. This furthers a move for the Broncos to hire a bunch of over-qualified coaches - guys who have been offensive coordinators elsewhere coming here to be assistants, former Raiders OC who comes here to coach the WRs, guys who were OL coaches coming here to be assistant OL coaches, etc.

They certainly aren't lacking for coaching talent. Now if the OL talent was as good as the coaching talent they'd be ready to pack their bags for the SB right now.