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OrangeHoof
01-30-2017, 10:58 PM
According to CBS Sports, Terrell Davis is on the list of 15 finalists for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Several others who spent part of their career with the Broncos are also on the list:




LaDainian Tomlinson (running back for the Chargers (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/SD/san-diego-chargers) and Jets (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/NYJ/n-y-jets-jets))
Brian Dawkins (safety for the Eagles (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/PHI/philadelphia-eagles) and Broncos (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/DEN/denver-broncos))
Jason Taylor (defensive end for the Dolphins (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/MIA/miami-dolphins), Jets, and Redskins (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/WAS/washington-redskins))
Morten Andersen (kicker for the Saints (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/NO/new-orleans-saints), Falcons (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/ATL/atlanta-falcons), Chiefs (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/KC/kansas-city-chiefs), Vikings (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/MIN/minnesota-vikings), and Giants (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/NYG/n-y-giants-giants))
Kurt Warner (quarterback for the Rams (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/LAR/l-a-rams-rams), Cardinals (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/ARI/arizona-cardinals), and Giants)
Don Coryell (coach of the St. Louis Cardinals and Chargers)
Tony Boselli (tackle for the Jaguars (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/JAC/jacksonville-jaguars))
Isaac Bruce (receiver for the Rams and 49ers)
Terrell Davis (running back for the Broncos)

Alan Faneca (guard for the Steelers (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/PIT/pittsburgh-steelers), Jets, and Cardinals)

Joe Jacoby (tackle for the Redskins)

Ty Law (cornerback for the Patriots (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/NE/new-england-patriots), Jets, Chiefs, and Broncos)

John Lynch (safety for the Buccaneers (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/TB/tampa-bay-buccaneers) and Broncos)
Kevin Mawae (center and guard for the Seahawks (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/SEA/seattle-seahawks), Jets, and Titans (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/TEN/tennessee-titans))
Terrell Owens (receiver for the 49ers, Eagles, Cowboys (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/DAL/dallas-cowboys), Bills (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/BUF/buffalo-bills), and Bengals (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/CIN/cincinnati-bengals))

chazoe60
01-30-2017, 11:15 PM
Kevin Mawae is a finalist and Tommy Nalen is not ever even mentioned. HOF is a ******* joke and always will be.

JPPT1974
01-30-2017, 11:24 PM
HOF is indeed a joke. Come to think of it!

dogfish
01-30-2017, 11:59 PM
not gonna get my hopes up. . . :coffee:

BroncoWave
01-31-2017, 12:01 AM
That's a pretty soft class of finalists. Tomlinson is the only slam dunk on there. TO and Jason Taylor are probably in. If Davis doesn't get in this year, it might not happen. This is his chance.

OrangeHoof
01-31-2017, 03:03 AM
Let's remember the rules. We must always add one Steeler, so Faneca is a cinch. Then one Cowboy, so it could be T.O. but Jerry Jones is also on there as a "contributor" so I think Ol Jerrah gets his due. Normally, a Raider gets inducted but I guess they've run out after Stabler. IMO, it's LT's turn which probably cancels out any other RBs (sorry, TD). Normally, a QB gets in so that means Warner. Then there's room for one guy who plays defense which means Lynch or Taylor.

So, I'm calling it: Tomlinson, Faneca, Warner, Taylor, Bruce, and then Kenny Easley and Jerry Jones.

BroncoWave
01-31-2017, 10:26 AM
Let's remember the rules. We must always add one Steeler, so Faneca is a cinch. Then one Cowboy, so it could be T.O. but Jerry Jones is also on there as a "contributor" so I think Ol Jerrah gets his due. Normally, a Raider gets inducted but I guess they've run out after Stabler. IMO, it's LT's turn which probably cancels out any other RBs (sorry, TD). Normally, a QB gets in so that means Warner. Then there's room for one guy who plays defense which means Lynch or Taylor.

So, I'm calling it: Tomlinson, Faneca, Warner, Taylor, Bruce, and then Kenny Easley and Jerry Jones.

in 2010 Emmitt Smith and Floyd Little got in. It's really not that uncommon for people of the same position to get in in the same year.

Also, there are only 24 quarterbacks in the hall of fame, and they have had 53 HoF classes, so a QB doesn't even get in half the time. So I don't think you have to worry about Warner getting in. He's a fringe candidate and I would be shocked if he got in this early.

BroncoJoe
01-31-2017, 10:33 AM
in 2010 Emmitt Smith and Floyd Little got in. It's really not that uncommon for people of the same position to get in in the same year.

Also, there are only 24 quarterbacks in the hall of fame, and they have had 53 HoF classes, so a QB doesn't even get in half the time. So I don't think you have to worry about Warner getting in. He's a fringe candidate and I would be shocked if he got in this early.

I'm all for Warner getting in, but not at the expense of Davis.

#30

BroncoWave
01-31-2017, 10:53 AM
I'm all for Warner getting in, but not at the expense of Davis.

#30

If Davis has to wait this long due to his longevity, so should Warner. 11 years is a relatively short career for a HoF QB, and only in 8 of those years did he start 10 games or more. He was only REALLY elite for those 3 years in St Louis, then after that had a 5 year stretch of complete mediocrity where he had a total of 27 TD and 30 INT over those 5 years, then he revived his career in AZ for those last 3 years, where he put up decent stats but not great.

I would be really, really shocked if he got in this year.

OrangeHoof
01-31-2017, 11:17 AM
The "rules" are tongue in cheek (for those argumentative idiots who believe I only speak literally). Although I'm serious about a Steeler getting inducted every year. Maybe because Canton is close to Pittsburgh and electing a Steeler every year helps their revenue. Before Elway, there were zero Broncos. Zero for the first 40 years of the franchise. You'd think the PFHOF would be scurrying to make up for such oversights but apparently not.

Also, just for the sake of my own curiosity, who the hell decided that Bill Cowher was a great tv pitchman? He's out there selling cable tv and insurance and what have you. Where's Marv Levy or Marty Schottenheimer? Is Cowher really that popular?

Joel
01-31-2017, 11:17 AM
in 2010 Emmitt Smith and Floyd Little got in. It's really not that uncommon for people of the same position to get in in the same year.
Little got in as a Senior though. Scott Kacsmar (briefly) compared them in a 2013 FO articl (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2013/terrell-davis-peak-vs-longevity#comment-1044752)e arguing for Davis' induction, concluding:

If Davis does not enter Canton by 2020, I will personally steal Floyd Little’s bust and swap it with one of Davis made out of Play-Doh.

King87
01-31-2017, 01:37 PM
For every great year Warner had, he had an awful year. A lot of that was due to injuries, and I'm not dissing his career. He's a borderline guy and an argument can be made for him. We scoff at the number now, but at the time his 41 TDs in a single season was absurd.

But...Warner's on and off brilliance does not surpass TD's. I don't think the writers are going to put TO in the HoF for a long, long time. He pissed them off for far too long.

GEM
01-31-2017, 02:00 PM
According to CBS Sports, Terrell Davis is on the list of 15 finalists for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Several others who spent part of their career with the Broncos are also on the list:

I think John Lynch has to be removed from the list since he's going back into football, no?

BroncoJoe
01-31-2017, 02:04 PM
If Davis has to wait this long due to his longevity, so should Warner. 11 years is a relatively short career for a HoF QB, and only in 8 of those years did he start 10 games or more. He was only REALLY elite for those 3 years in St Louis, then after that had a 5 year stretch of complete mediocrity where he had a total of 27 TD and 30 INT over those 5 years, then he revived his career in AZ for those last 3 years, where he put up decent stats but not great.

I would be really, really shocked if he got in this year.


For every great year Warner had, he had an awful year. A lot of that was due to injuries, and I'm not dissing his career. He's a borderline guy and an argument can be made for him. We scoff at the number now, but at the time his 41 TDs in a single season was absurd.

But...Warner's on and off brilliance does not surpass TD's. I don't think the writers are going to put TO in the HoF for a long, long time. He pissed them off for far too long.

I get it - I just like the dude. Class act, by all accounts that I'm aware of.

King87
01-31-2017, 02:44 PM
He's basically a walking teddy bear.

Slick
01-31-2017, 02:48 PM
not gonna get my hopes up. . . :coffee:

Pretty much this. You don't want to set yourself up to be disappointed.

Denver is grossly underrepresented in the HOF.

I Eat Staples
01-31-2017, 02:49 PM
Good to see Broncos legends Brian Dawkins and Ty Law nominated. ;)

BroncoWave
01-31-2017, 02:55 PM
I think John Lynch has to be removed from the list since he's going back into football, no?

That has no impact on his eligibility as a player (I'm pretty sure at least). Otherwise, say a great player like Manning stepped into a front office role and did that until he was 70, he'd hypothetically never be in the hall of fame until then. I don't see that being the case.

BroncoWave
01-31-2017, 02:56 PM
I get it - I just like the dude. Class act, by all accounts that I'm aware of.

Well then we can just induct him into the hall of nice guys. :D

Joel
01-31-2017, 03:11 PM
I think John Lynch has to be removed from the list since he's going back into football, no?
He's still retired as a player. I mean, Jerry's on the list (albeit as a contributor) and he's still "in football" (far too much, in the opinion of most, even in Dallas.)

dogfish
01-31-2017, 03:46 PM
I think John Lynch has to be removed from the list since he's going back into football, no?

no. . . dick lebeau's been in the hall for like thirty years, coaching all along. . . ditka too, remember? they separate playing career from stuff like coaching, broadcasting, or front office work. . .

BroncoJoe
01-31-2017, 03:47 PM
Well then we can just induct him into the hall of nice guys. :D

I think you meant hall of popular guys...

:heh:

dogfish
01-31-2017, 03:48 PM
Pretty much this. You don't want to set yourself up to be disappointed.

Denver is grossly underrepresented in the HOF.


yup. . . at this point, i just assume our guys will get passed over for whichever cowboys or stealers are up. . . it's not butthurt so much as resignation. . .

GEM
01-31-2017, 04:28 PM
Ah ok, wasn't sure if getting back in messed with the 5 year rule. :)

dogfish
01-31-2017, 09:01 PM
Ah ok, wasn't sure if getting back in messed with the 5 year rule. :)

it only would if he came back to play, like when deion un-retired to play for baltimore for a few years. . .

VonDoom
02-04-2017, 07:01 PM
According to Bill Simmons, Terell Davis didn't get in. Again.

VonDoom
02-04-2017, 07:05 PM
According to Bill Simmons, Terell Davis didn't get in. Again.

... Yet Klis says he's in. So what to believe?

slim
02-04-2017, 07:06 PM
Of course not.

Effing idiots.

slim
02-04-2017, 07:07 PM
... Yet Klis says he's in. So what to believe?

Wait, wat???

pnbronco
02-04-2017, 07:07 PM
... Yet Klis says he's in. So what to believe?

this one hopefully.....

slim
02-04-2017, 07:08 PM
#fingerscrossed

VonDoom
02-04-2017, 07:10 PM
Klis sounds pretty sure of himself:

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis 7m7 minutes ago

Some surprises in new HoF class. A pleasant one for Broncos: Terrell Davis is a Hall of Famer, per source w/knowledge of HoF class. #9sports

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis 4m4 minutes ago

LaDainian Tomlinson, Terrell Davis both make it. First time two RBs elected on modern ballot since Sayers-Gifford in '77. #9sports

VonDoom
02-04-2017, 07:12 PM
Supposedly LT, TD and Jason Taylor in. Lynch and Dawkins didn't make it.

slim
02-04-2017, 07:12 PM
Klis > Simmons?

lol

VonDoom
02-04-2017, 07:13 PM
Klis > Simmons?

lol


Simmons did call him the best RB he's ever seen so I liked that

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
02-04-2017, 07:18 PM
How in the freak is Brian Dawkins not a first ballot selection?

VonDoom
02-04-2017, 07:19 PM
Sort of related because it's the awards but Mack beat out Von for DPOY

slim
02-04-2017, 07:19 PM
How in the freak is Brian Dawkins not a first ballot selection?

He's a safety.

Nomad
02-04-2017, 07:25 PM
This is outstanding news for TD!!

VonDoom
02-04-2017, 07:37 PM
Being widely reported now that TD is in. YES!

VonDoom
02-04-2017, 07:38 PM
Sort of related because it's the awards but Mack beat out Von for DPOY

Mack apparently beat Miller by one vote. Ugh

VonDoom
02-04-2017, 07:40 PM
HOF Class of 2017: Terrell Davis, LaDainian Tomlinson, Jason Taylor, Kurt Warner, Morten Andersen

7DnBrnc53
02-04-2017, 07:42 PM
HOF Class of 2017: Terrell Davis, LaDainian Tomlinson, Jason Taylor, Kurt Warner, Morten Andersen

Great!! Now that's four HOF players from those 1997-98 teams. Now, they need to put Atwater in.

slim
02-04-2017, 07:45 PM
Great!! Now that's four HOF players from those 1997-98 teams. Now, they need to put Atwater in.

And Nalen

Timmy!
02-04-2017, 08:19 PM
Sweet.

pnbronco
02-04-2017, 11:17 PM
Yeah!!!! Congrts TD!!!!