Broncos claim RB Justin Forsett

[VonDoom]

As expected, especially with the Bibbs injury:

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 13m13 minutes ago

Broncos claimed former Ravens' RB Justin Forsett on waivers today, per source. Broncos' HC Gary Kubiak and Forsett reunited again.

[VonDoom]

Cameron Wolfe ‏@CameronWolfe 3s3 seconds ago

Justin Forsett had his best and only Pro Bowl season in Baltimore with Kubiak as OC in ’14. He had 1,266 rushing yards, 5.4 ypc & 8 TDs.

Cameron Wolfe ‏@CameronWolfe 13s13 seconds ago

Kapri Bibbs' left high ankle sprain will likely keep him out for multiple weeks. Tough break for a talented back. Depth was needed.

Cameron Wolfe ‏@CameronWolfe 25s25 seconds ago

Corresponding roster move coming shortly.

[Northman]

I like this pickup. Not sure how much is in the tank and what he can do with our Oline but in Baltimore he was pretty good before getting injured.

[BroncoJoe]

We should have went after Ray Rice.

:couch:

[FanInAZ]

We should have went after Ray Rice.

:couch::smack:

[Buff]

He immediately becomes our best RB not named CJ Anderson. He isn't a huge HR threat at this stage - but he's smart and productive - about the best you could hope for off the street in Week 14.

[pnbronco]

They put Bibbs on IR.....I guess was going to take 2-4 weeks for him to recover.... Sorry UR.....he had a good game on Sunday I'm bummed for him.

[Poet]

I am happy about this. He has vision, toughness, and he's a good blocker. That last one is often undervalued. Although, since he isn't a speed back, he might not be on third downs that much anyway. However, his blocking ability will still be useful on the first two downs, certainly on fourth down.....

I feel good about this one.

[chazoe60]

Excellent pick up.

[VonDoom]

They put Bibbs on IR.....I guess was going to take 2-4 weeks for him to recover.... Sorry UR.....he had a good game on Sunday I'm bummed for him.

Couldn't we have cut Norwood or one of our long snappers? Sucks for Bibbs

[Magnificent Seven]

They should get Steven Jackson. He is still available.

[Tned]

They put Bibbs on IR.....I guess was going to take 2-4 weeks for him to recover.... Sorry UR.....he had a good game on Sunday I'm bummed for him.

Well, that sucks.

[pnbronco]

Well, that sucks.

I know...I thought so too....I asked everyone everyone I could on twitter today....so outside my comfort zone. I bummed for him to finally have a good game and then get hurt....and the timing of needing that spot right away.

[BORDERLINE]

He immediately becomes our best RB not named CJ Anderson. He isn't a huge HR threat at this stage - but he's smart and productive - about the best you could hope for off the street in Week 14.

I like the end of your post. I think Hillman would have been better but since SD stole him JF is as good as there is out there

[chazoe60]

I like the end of your post. I think Hillman would have been better but since SD stole him JF is as good as there is out there

Hillman? Hillman sucks.

[DenBronx]

Very good pickup!

[OrangeHoof]

Forsett will need very little time to pick up the offense. The question is whether his body is in shape. He might be of more value come playoff time.

[BroncoWave]

Hillman? Hillman sucks.

You suck.

[Davii]

You suck.

Has Ronnie dressed in San Diego yet?

[Dapper Dan]

Should have kept Hillman.

[CrazyHorse]

We should have went after Ray Rice.

:couch:

I'd seriously rather have Rice. Justin Forsett had one good year.

[Dapper Dan]

I'd seriously rather have Rice. Justin Forsett had one good year.

But does Rice have any fight left?

[Davii]

But does Rice have any fight left?

I'll have to check the film.

[BroncoWave]

Has Ronnie dressed in San Diego yet?

I aint watch nothing the Chargers do. They sorry.

[Simple Jaded]

I think you guys suffer from separation anxiety, it should've passed by now. Try some prune juice.

[HORSEPOWER 56]

I wanted to sign Forsett since CJ went down. Not because he's all-world or anything, but because he is a vet who has been around. He played for Kubes before. Let's think about this for a second, what is our #1 problem with the offense? The Oline. Now we stick a second year QB who is essentially a rookie or his backup who is a rookie behind it. Then we lineup another rookie at RB next to him and say, "be productive behind the worst Oline in the league".

What I'm hoping Forsett will bring is a little experience to the backfield. Someone who can help our young QBs with protection schemes prior to the snap and who understands how to pickup the blitz and actually run in a zone scheme. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if he takes the starting job within the first week or two. Booker is struggling right now, which is understandable. Forsett's experience could pay real dividends. Other than Dallas, who has the best Oline in the league, how many other teams have started a rookie QB and RB together and expected immediate success? I think Forsett will help way more than just carrying the ball.

[Freyaka]

But does Rice have any fight left?

You'd have to ask his girlfriend.

[BroncoJoe]

You'd have to ask his girlfriend.

*wife. They married.

[MasterShake]

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u14/Kenobi1_bucket/LCGG5J8_zpsetrnsz5f.jpg

[Freyaka]

*wife. They married.

I thought so, but I couldn't remember....

[Lynch12]

Had his best season under kubiak, unfortunately for us the ravens offensive line is better than ours and there quarterback at the moment. I hooe he's able to contribute though, he does know the system down pat though. So he should play immediately. Just dont think our o line will do much for the guy.

[Lynch12]

Why couldn't we sign a couple offensive linemen off the street? There's gotta be some guys hungry for football on the street.

[Freyaka]

Why couldn't we sign a couple offensive linemen off the street? There's gotta be some guys hungry for football on the street.

It's really not that simple unfortunately. For an offensive line to develop, there has to be a cohesion between the different linemen. This typically takes 6-7 games of playing together to build. Very rarely is it effective to plug and play new linemen, because these linemen have to as well develop that cohesion and trust/communication.

Unfortunately for the most part, what you see is what you get with this line. We have to hope that they continue to develop and gel or wait until next year, blow it up and start from square one.

Beside that, there really isn't anyone noteworthy on the street that is markedly better than what we have.

[NightTerror218]

Elways i will admit is amazing at drafting and getting good FA defensive talent. So far though offensively he has not done good outside of Sanders and Peyton.

Miss on just about every OL. No WR has worked out really. TE is always a position of need. And major busts with drafting RB. Anderson and Paradis have been his only good offensive talent he has found. I am hoping booker turns corner into solid RB. Okung and stephenson look like misses. DT was already here.

[I Eat Staples]

Good Signing. Forsett > Hillman, by a wide margin.

[Dapper Dan]

Good Signing. Forsett > Hillman, by a wide margin.

Lies

[Lynch12]

Really don't know.why people bash Hillman so much, he was never drafted to be a tackle breaker, he was pretty decent at what he does as a change of pace back. He probably out produced forsett in his short career if you ask me, only thing forsett has GOING is he had a good year with kubiak.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Really don't know.why people bash Hillman so much, he was never drafted to be a tackle breaker, he was pretty decent at what he does as a change of pace back. He probably out produced forsett in his short career if you ask me, only thing forsett has GOING is he had a good year with kubiak.

Hillman has good speed. I was hopeful he'd turn into an elite 3rd down back, but poor blocking and lack of receiving ability dampened those hopes.

[Davii]

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u14/Kenobi1_bucket/LCGG5J8_zpsetrnsz5f.jpg

I laughed MUCH harder at this than I should have. Hard enough that the wife asked what I was laughing at, she just eye rolled when I showed her.

[BroncoWave]

Good Signing. Forsett > Hillman, by a wide margin.

These are the per season averages of the two players.

Forsett:

415 rush yds 2 TD 146 rec yds 0.1 TD

Hillman

378 yds 2.4 TD 95 yds 0.2 TD

Forsett has better yardage production, and Hillman has scored a bit more often. I certainly would not call it anything close to a "wide margin".

And if you take out the one outlier season for Forsett when he made the pro bowl, the rest of his career has been entirely mediocre.

Also, two teams have cut him this year, just like Hillman. I'd say it's safe to say they are seen pretty similarly right now by NFL teams.

[Davii]

These are the per season averages of the two players.

Forsett:

415 rush yds 2 TD 146 rec yds 0.1 TD

Hillman

378 yds 2.4 TD 95 yds 0.2 TD

Forsett has better yardage production, and Hillman has scored a bit more often. I certainly would not call it anything close to a "wide margin".

And if you take out the one outlier season for Forsett when he made the pro bowl, the rest of his career has been entirely mediocre.

Also, two teams have cut him this year, just like Hillman. I'd say it's safe to say they are seen pretty similarly right now by NFL teams.

It's my bias, but I can't get past that backward pass he didn't go after vs the *Pats in the playoffs. Their numbers are certainly similar but I'd also rather have Forsett here.

[BroncoWave]

It's my bias, but I can't get past that backward pass he didn't go after vs the *Pats in the playoffs.

I get that, but I've never thought it's fair to judge a player based on one single play. Same with Rahim Moore. Yes it was a crucial brainfart at a bad time, but I don't think that erases everything else about a player.

[Davii]

I get that, but I've never thought it's fair to judge a player based on one single play. Same with Rahim Moore. Yes it was a crucial brainfart at a bad time, but I don't think that erases everything else about a player.

It doesn't, you are correct. That being said I would rather Forsett. I don't want Rahim back either.

[pnbronco]

It doesn't, you are correct. That being said I would rather Forsett. I don't want Rahim back either.

With Forsett knowing Kubes system that is a plus for me. Plus any help in blocking would be a big plus for me. Hillman was just not a blocker and it screamed running play every time he went in....so I'm hopeful.

[Dapper Dan]

He can't be any worse than Bibbs.

[Buff]

I get that, but I've never thought it's fair to judge a player based on one single play. Same with Rahim Moore. Yes it was a crucial brainfart at a bad time, but I don't think that erases everything else about a player.

Oh lawd - I was going to stay out of the Hillman discussion because how much more can we beat that dead horse? But Rahim Moore is taking it too far. He shall forever be judged on one play and one play only.

[OrangeHoof]

"Wait. You can't be successful with a rookie QB and a rookie running back? Who knew?" - Jason Garrett

[BroncoJoe]

He can't be any worse than Bibbs.

Shots fired.

[Freyaka]

Shots fired.

It's ok...in this offense, shots are rarely on target.

[BroncoJoe]

It's ok...in this offense, shots are rarely on target when Lynch is playing.

fify.

:yo:

[Timmy!]

Oh lawd - I was going to stay out of the Hillman discussion because how much more can we beat that dead horse? But Rahim Moore is taking it too far. He shall forever be judged on one play and one play only.

Dont make me do it.....

[BroncoWave]

Oh lawd - I was going to stay out of the Hillman discussion because how much more can we beat that dead horse? But Rahim Moore is taking it too far. He shall forever be judged on one play and one play only.

I refuse to succumb to such hot takery! :D

[Magnificent Seven]

RB Justin Forsett's jersey number is 20.

[dogfish]

Really don't know.why people bash Hillman so much, he was never drafted to be a tackle breaker, he was pretty decent at what he does as a change of pace back. He probably out produced forsett in his short career if you ask me, only thing forsett has GOING is he had a good year with kubiak.

see, wave? yash likes hillman-- what more positive proof could you ever require that he's awful?

[dogfish]

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u14/Kenobi1_bucket/LCGG5J8_zpsetrnsz5f.jpg

if everyone was as cool as mastashake, this would be a better place. . .


:laugh:

[BroncoWave]

see, wave? yash likes hillman-- what more positive proof could you ever require that he's awful?

I'm just pretending he never posted that. :D

[Simple Jaded]

He can't be any worse than Bibbs.

Scary thought? Klis believes Bibbs was about to overtake Booker as main RB.

[MasterShake]

if everyone was as cool as mastashake, this would be a better place. . .


:laugh:

That is his actual twitter pic: https://twitter.com/JForsett

Someone on Reddit added the background and I just reposted it here. As is the way of the Internet. :lol:

[BroncoJoe]

That is his actual twitter pic: https://twitter.com/JForsett

Someone on Reddit added the background and I just reposted it here. As is the way of the Internet. :lol:

Dude likes to tweet! Thought this one was funny:

9864

[Freyaka]

Dude likes to tweet! Thought this one was funny:

9864

He'll fit in nicely with our twitter happy group :D

[Dapper Dan]

That is his actual twitter pic: https://twitter.com/JForsett

Someone on Reddit added the background and I just reposted it here. As is the way of the Internet. :lol:

I saw that and wondered if you might have been the one that edited the picture.

[wayninja]

No Willis McGahee?

[Freyaka]

No Willis McGahee?

How old is he now? Like 90?

[I Eat Staples]

These are the per season averages of the two players.

Forsett:

415 rush yds 2 TD 146 rec yds 0.1 TD

Hillman

378 yds 2.4 TD 95 yds 0.2 TD

Forsett has better yardage production, and Hillman has scored a bit more often. I certainly would not call it anything close to a "wide margin".

And if you take out the one outlier season for Forsett when he made the pro bowl, the rest of his career has been entirely mediocre.

Also, two teams have cut him this year, just like Hillman. I'd say it's safe to say they are seen pretty similarly right now by NFL teams.

It's probably selection bias on my part, I just remember watching Hillman so much and always being disappointed. Not that I've ever had a high opinion of Forsett, he's just an average back that you can plug and play. But his one season is a lot better than anything Hillman did.

[wayninja]

You'd think being the leading rusher on the broncos last year would be "as good as anything Forsett" ever did, but I guess not.

Not that it matters at this point, the hate for hillman will live forever!

[Freyaka]

Not that it matters at this point, the hate for hillman will live forever!

And rightly so! Fricken constant waste of a roster spot and waste of a draft pick...

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

You'd think being the leading rusher on the broncos last year would be "as good as anything Forsett" ever did, but I guess not.

Not that it matters at this point, the hate for hillman will live forever!

Forsett's best year far surpassed Hillman's best year, and I know it might not be saying much but he's a better blocker and receiver than Hillman is.

[Dapper Dan]

And rightly so! Fricken constant waste of a roster spot and waste of a draft pick...

Except for helping us beat the Vikings last year on a 79 yard TD run in a game we won by 3 points.

[wayninja]

Forsett's best year far surpassed Hillman's best year, and I know it might not be saying much but he's a better blocker and receiver than Hillman is.

By that logic, Forsett should be number one on the depth chart, as Forsett's best year far surpassed CJ's as well.

Receiving wise, CJ, Hillman and Forsett are all pretty similar.

I can't speak to blocking, I'm not good at judging it, so I'll take your word for it.

[wayninja]

And rightly so! Fricken constant waste of a roster spot and waste of a draft pick...

Right... Our leading rusher on our superbowl season was a wasted roster spot.

Seems legit.

[Freyaka]

Except for helping us beat the Vikings last year on a 79 yard TD run in a game we won by 3 points.

So one game makes up for everything? Then I guess Jordan Norwood isn't so bad after all...Because lets be honest, Hillman was last years Norwood that everyone kept saying "why the heck is this guy still employed"

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

By that logic, Forsett should be number one on the depth chart, as Forsett's best year far surpassed CJ's as well.

Receiving wise, CJ, Hillman and Forsett are all pretty similar.

I can't speak to blocking, I'm not good at judging it, so I'll take your word for it.

I'm not sure why you're discounting what I said when I compared his best season to Ronnie's. You're the one that mentioned it in the first place

[wayninja]

So one game makes up for everything? Then I guess Jordan Norwood isn't so bad after all...Because lets be honest, Hillman was last years Norwood that everyone kept saying "why the heck is this guy still employed"

I wasn't saying that. He showed multiple times throughout the year why he was still employed. He's great at that change of pace, speed back position. Seems like it's niche role though which is why he's having trouble finding work.

He was a key piece to offense last year. We weren't world beaters or anything, but he put up better numbers than CJ. I'm not sure why that so constantly dismissed.

[wayninja]

I'm not sure why you're discounting what I said when I compared his best season to Ronnie's. You're the one that mentioned it in the first place

I did? Where?

Next you'll be telling me that I also disavowed god. :D

[BroncoWave]

All aboard the Hillman hype train! Choo-choo!

[Freyaka]

Right... Our leading rusher on our superbowl season was a wasted roster spot.

Seems legit.

That's a pretty misleading statement and I'm pretty sure you know that... He had 863 yards... He had a grand total of 4 games over 100 yards that made his stats look pretty. Outside of those 4 games he was averaging about 45 yards per game...Even if you are nice and add those 4 games in he still only averaged a paltry 53 yards per game...

The guy was a waste of space...


On the flip side of that, in Forsett's best year he had 1,266 yards and averaged 80 YPG.

[BroncoWave]

I wasn't saying that. He showed multiple times throughout the year why he was still employed. He's great at that change of pace, speed back position. Seems like it's niche role though which is why he's having trouble finding work.

He was a key piece to offense last year. We weren't world beaters or anything, but he put up better numbers than CJ. I'm not sure why that so constantly dismissed.

Because it is doesn't fit the "Hillman sux!" narrative.

[Poet]

So he was a decent speed back who made plays for us? That's essentially what you're saying, no? That's not a waste of space.

[wayninja]

That's a pretty misleading statement and I'm pretty sure you know that... He had 863 yards... He had a grand total of 4 games over 100 yards that made his stats look pretty. Outside of those 4 games he was averaging about 45 yards per game...Even if you are nice and add those 4 games in he still only averaged a paltry 53 yards per game...

The guy was a waste of space...


So, it's not 1 game that makes the difference, and it's not 4 games. How many are needed?

I've also heard told rumors that our offensive line might not be that good. I doubt that has anything to do with running back production, just thought I'd throw it out there.

[Freyaka]

So, it's not 1 game that makes the difference, and it's not 4 games. How many are needed?

I've also heard told rumors that our offensive line might not be that good. I doubt that has anything to do with running back production, just thought I'd throw it out there.

Even when the line was good the guy just had zero field vision...He couldn't find holes and went down on the slightest contact. That's not even bringing into the discussion his fumble issues....

[BroncoWave]

Even when the line was good the guy just had zero field vision...He couldn't find holes and went down on the slightest contact. That's not even bringing into the discussion his fumble issues....

His fumble rate was better than league average last year. Any more myths you'd care for me to bust?

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I did? Where?

Next you'll be telling me that I also disavowed god. :D

You said, "being Denver's leading rusher should be as good as anything Forsett had ever done."

And 🙈

[wayninja]

Even when the line was good

Hillman didn't play in the 90's.

[wayninja]

You said, "being Denver's leading rusher should be as good as anything Forsett had ever done."

And ��

Look above that, I was responding to Staples, who brought it up.

[Dapper Dan]

So one game makes up for everything? Then I guess Jordan Norwood isn't so bad after all...Because lets be honest, Hillman was last years Norwood that everyone kept saying "why the heck is this guy still employed"

Make up for what? What are all the terrible things he did?

I'm happy he helped us win a game. If you don't care about winning games, that's fine.

[Lynch12]

His fumble rate was better than league average last year. Any more myths you'd care for me to bust?

Im glad people are realizing that THAT guy just says anything as well. He doesn't have a clue about facts.

[Poet]

Im glad people are realizing that THAT guy just says anything as well. He doesn't have a clue about facts.

You are to factual analysis what rocks are to swimming.

[BroncoWave]

His fumble rate was better than league average last year. Any more myths you'd care for me to bust?

And actually, he was well below league average. He had 2 fumbles in 207 rushing attempts last year, which is a 0.97% fumble rate. The league average last year was 3.28%. So not only was he better than the league average, he was over 3 times better.

Busting myths is fun!

[Freyaka]

And actually, he was well below league average. He had 2 fumbles in 207 rushing attempts last year, which is a 0.97% fumble rate. The league average last year was 3.28%. So not only was he better than the league average, he was over 3 times better.

Busting myths is fun!

Last year was an improvement, but his fumbles always seemed to come at the absolute worst times...

You want to like him, fine, but to me I'd have rather seen his carries given to someone better. He really was not a consistent runner. He'd occasionally break one but most of his rushing attempts went no where because he couldn't find the hole (a problem I've noticed with Booker, though I'm willing to cut him plenty of slack on that since it is after all his first year)

Hillman's issues weren't all of his own doing either, we never utilized him to his strengths...He wasn't ever built to run between tackles yet that's where we insisted on throwing him. He'd have been great as like a Sproles or Reggie Bush type back, but our coaching staff consistently misused him.

I actually think he'll be good in San Diego, but I was never ever impressed by him here. I can see where the potential was, but I never saw him live up to it aside from the occasional flash.

[Freyaka]

Im glad people are realizing that THAT guy just says anything as well. He doesn't have a clue about facts.

Yes, because you are a bastion of factual speaking...

[BroncoJoe]

I liked Hillman. Like anyone that puts on a Broncos uniform, I hope they do a good to great job. Hillman was more than serviceable. He was actually a good back. Am I totally upset he isn't with us anymore? No. Would I like it if he still was? Yep. He is arguably better than Booker at this point, and I like Booker.

[wayninja]

Yep, it's not about "liking" him, it's just about addressing some strange, irrational hatred of him that his play never really justified.

He isn't the greatest RB we've ever seen, but he's far from the worst, but for some reason some folks want to treat him like he was.

[BroncoJoe]

Yep, it's not about "liking" him, it's just about addressing some strange, irrational hatred of him that his play never really justified.

He isn't the greatest RB we've ever seen, but he's far from the worst, but for some reason some folks want to treat him like he was.

He's the next generation Moreno.

Buff, did you like Hillman? I don't remember.

[FanInAZ]

Im glad people are realizing that THAT guy just says anything as well. He doesn't have a clue about facts.

Just because some people have a difference of option then "that guy" doesn't mean that anyone here believes he's wrong about everything. It also doesn't mean that anyone here actually believe your more knowledgeable then "that guy."

[BroncoWave]

Yep, it's not about "liking" him, it's just about addressing some strange, irrational hatred of him that his play never really justified.

He isn't the greatest RB we've ever seen, but he's far from the worst, but for some reason some folks want to treat him like he was.

I think a lot of it stems from how good our running game was for so long under shanny. People were really spoiled by that high standard, and now everyone who doesn't live up to it is trash. First moreno, then Hillman, now booker. I'm surprised CJ has mostly escaped it, but I think that's mostly because he gets credit for what he's done as an undrafted player. But those other 3 guys, all picked in the first 4 rounds, apparently have expectations of being all pros or else they suck.

[Buff]

Yep, it's not about "liking" him, it's just about addressing some strange, irrational hatred of him that his play never really justified.

He isn't the greatest RB we've ever seen, but he's far from the worst, but for some reason some folks want to treat him like he was.


He's the next generation Moreno.

Buff, did you like Hillman? I don't remember.

The guy has a pretty insufferable personality. Zero charisma, never did a single thing to ingratiate himself to fans - but did a number of things to piss us off... Such as calling out all the "fake fans" who criticize the team and Manning (despite not really having the clout to do so). Showing zero awareness in the Patriots playoff game and not even making an effort to pick up the ball - and generally just being mediocre and average in every way.

I think him picking a fight with fans is the reason why people actively dislike him.

[VonDoom]

Wasn't he photographed with the stripper right before Super Bowl 48?

[BroncoJoe]

The guy has a pretty insufferable personality. Zero charisma, never did a single thing to ingratiate himself to fans - but did a number of things to piss us off... Such as calling out all the "fake fans" who criticize the team and Manning (despite not really having the clout to do so). Showing zero awareness in the Patriots playoff game and not even making an effort to pick up the ball - and generally just being mediocre and average in every way.

I think him picking a fight with fans is the reason why people actively dislike him.

Right, but I liked his mouthpiece.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/files/2015/08/484344628-270x319.jpg

I've noticed a lot of players wearing them now. Never really did before he wore it...

[BroncoWave]

The guy has a pretty insufferable personality. Zero charisma, never did a single thing to ingratiate himself to fans - but did a number of things to piss us off... Such as calling out all the "fake fans" who criticize the team and Manning (despite not really having the clout to do so). Showing zero awareness in the Patriots playoff game and not even making an effort to pick up the ball - and generally just being mediocre and average in every way.

I think him picking a fight with fans is the reason why people actively dislike him.

So basically he hurt your feelings. Do you you need some time in the safe space?.:D

[wayninja]

I say we try to pick up a RB with more charisma.

Does anyone know Forsett's charisma score from the combine?

[Poet]

I say we try to pick up a RB with more charisma.

Does anyone know Forsett's charisma score from the combine?

He'd need to roll 2D6+6

[Poet]

He'd need to roll 2D6+6

If you get this post I **** with you. If you don't get it you's a sucka lame ass ho.

[BroncoWave]

If you get this post I **** with you. If you don't get it you's a sucka lame ass ho.

This is why we're style brothers.

[Simple Jaded]

Imma sucka lame ass ho, apparently. I gave a legitimate effort to get that too.

[Simple Jaded]

You guys realize you're not talking about Terrell Davis and Clinton Poorti$? Right?

Ronnie Hillman...Slowshon Moreno...let it sink in.

Rueben Droughns >

What was the name of that stiff from Arizona St that Shanatan compared to TD? That's more like it, forgettable.

[BroncoWave]

You guys realize you're not talking about Terrell Davis and Clinton Poorti$? Right?

Ronnie Hillman...Slowshon Moreno...let it sink in.

Rueben Droughns >

What was the name of that stiff from Arizona St that Shanatan compared to TD? That's more like it, forgettable.

You kinda just made my point in this post. People got spoiled by backs like TD and Portis, so then when you have guys like Moreno and Hillman, both of whom were solid backs for us, people talk about them like they're trash.

[Simple Jaded]

You kinda just made my point in this post. People got spoiled by backs like TD and Portis, so then when you have guys like Moreno and Hillman, both of whom were solid backs for us, people talk about them like they're trash.

I'm talking about the discussion in general but I think you're right about being spoiled. As it is, they both fall into the category of "meh".

[BroncoWave]

I'm talking about the discussion in general but I think you're right about being spoiled. As it is, they both fall into the category of "meh".

I still maintain that the only thing wrong with Moreno was his health. He was a productive back for us when he was healthy. He really started to break out his last year here then his knees just got shot after that.

[Simple Jaded]

I still maintain that the only thing wrong with Moreno was his health. He was a productive back for us when he was healthy. He really started to break out his last year here then his knees just got shot after that.

I look at it as though he didn't tuck in his skirt and run the way his utter lack of skills necessitated until his contract season. He was never overly gifted, he was always meant to be the kind of player he was when he started getting by on heart and determination.

[Freyaka]

You kinda just made my point in this post. People got spoiled by backs like TD and Portis, so then when you have guys like Moreno and Hillman, both of whom were solid backs for us, people talk about them like they're trash.

But see, the difference was...Knomo wasn't trash, he just cried giant rivers of tears because he loved 'Merica so much... Hillman....I tried my hardest to be patient with that guy, but his runstyle was frustrating as hell and he just would not consistently move the ball...

[Lynch12]

Just because some people have a difference of option then "that guy" doesn't mean that anyone here believes he's wrong about everything. It also doesn't mean that anyone here actually believe your more knowledgeable then "that guy."

Difference of option? Huh????

[Lynch12]

The guy has a pretty insufferable personality. Zero charisma, never did a single thing to ingratiate himself to fans - but did a number of things to piss us off... Such as calling out all the "fake fans" who criticize the team and Manning (despite not really having the clout to do so). Showing zero awareness in the Patriots playoff game and not even making an effort to pick up the ball - and generally just being mediocre and average in every way.

I think him picking a fight with fans is the reason why people actively dislike him.

Who cares bro, there are plenty fake Broncos fans.

[BroncoWave]

Who cares bro, there are plenty fake Broncos fans.

:lol: Congratulations, you win the award for most ironic post in the history of the Internet!

[slim]

Who cares bro, there are plenty fake Broncos fans.

Hi Lynch12.

I think you and I should have a little chat.

[Lynch12]

:lol: Congratulations, you win the award for most ironic post in the history of the Internet!

Yeah okay mister wave, call me anything but a fake bronco fan, I consider a fake Broncos fan to be those who sell there playoff tickets to the opposition's fan's. Those type of fans are fake fans.

[Lynch12]

Hi Lynch12.

I think you and I should have a little chat.

What's up

[slim]

What's up

Well. You've been around a little while now and I just think we should know more about you.

Besides your mansion and obedient wife, tell us a little about yourself.

[Lynch12]

Never said I had a mantion, you do know that there are normal house's with a basement level, downstairs level, kitchen/living room level and bed room level upstairs right? And it's far from a mansion just a decent old house

[Lynch12]

If you want to know a little something you'd have to ask and then I'd have to decide if I want to answer.

[I Eat Staples]

Lynch12 is Yashahla17 or whatever, right?

[Freyaka]

Who cares bro, there are plenty fake Broncos fans.

I present exhibit A. lol.....

[BigDaddyBronco]

Lynch12 is Yashahla17 or whatever, right?

Remember when Yash came out crazy and started talking about the cult he was in. Couldn't make that stuff up...

[Davii]

If you get this post I **** with you. If you don't get it you's a sucka lame ass ho.

That's only a 2.77% chance of happening. Pretty slim.

[VonDoom]

Remember when Yash came out crazy and started talking about the cult he was in. Couldn't make that stuff up...

I had him on ignore by then. Did this really happen?

[slim]

If you want to know a little something you'd have to ask and then I'd have to decide if I want to answer.

Okay, to start....are you a man or a woman?

[wayninja]

What is your 3 cone time?

[Lynch12]

Okay, to start....are you a man or a woman?

Man

[Lynch12]

What is your 3 cone time?

I don't know.

[Timmy!]

Lynch12 is Yashahla17 or whatever, right?

Yup...or jwalk....or both.

[Timmy!]

Lynch, what's your take on smart mouth women, the middle east, and cults?

[Lynch12]

What's yours.

[Timmy!]

I like em fiesty, it's full of sand, and I am grand poobah of one.

Your turn.

[Davii]

Difference of option? Huh????

Please tell me you, of all people, aren't trying to correct someone's spelling and/or grammar. We could spend months correcting yours, easily.

[Lynch12]

Please tell me you, of all people, aren't trying to correct someone's spelling and/or grammar. We could spend months correcting yours, easily.

Maybe

[Broncoknight30]

I like the end of your post. I think Hillman would have been better but since SD stole him JF is as good as there is out there

Hillman is fast. That is or was his only good asset. Everything else he is average at best. He was never suited to this offense and what Kubiak wants out of a RB. For that matter, I am discouraged by Booker with this offense. IMO Booker does not have that VISION that is needed. Yes, he is operating behind an underwhelming OL, however I have seen him NOT run to where the hole opens up. Often (all too often) that hole is a cut to the middle. He does what most RBs just do. Run to where the hole is SUPPOSE to be and if it is not there, well oh well. No, we will never see and instinctive RB like Terrell Davis again, who fit into this stretch offense about as well as Montana fit into it as a QB.

Anyway, I am happy with the Forsett signing. I do think he is an effective back and I am hoping he remains on the team into next year.

[Valar Morghulis]

Hillman is fast. That is or was his only good asset. Everything else he is average at best. He was never suited to this offense and what Kubiak wants out of a RB. For that matter, I am discouraged by Booker with this offense. IMO Booker does not have that VISION that is needed. Yes, he is operating behind an underwhelming OL, however I have seen him NOT run to where the hole opens up. Often (all too often) that hole is a cut to the middle. He does what most RBs just do. Run to where the hole is SUPPOSE to be and if it is not there, well oh well. No, we will never see and instinctive RB like Terrell Davis again, who fit into this stretch offense about as well as Montana fit into it as a QB. Anyway, I am happy with the Forsett signing. I do think he is an effective back and I am hoping he remains on the team into next year.

I don't even think Hillman was all that fast

[wayninja]

Hillman is fast. That is or was his only good asset. Everything else he is average at best. He was never suited to this offense and what Kubiak wants out of a RB. For that matter, I am discouraged by Booker with this offense. IMO Booker does not have that VISION that is needed. Yes, he is operating behind an underwhelming OL, however I have seen him NOT run to where the hole opens up. Often (all too often) that hole is a cut to the middle. He does what most RBs just do. Run to where the hole is SUPPOSE to be and if it is not there, well oh well. No, we will never see and instinctive RB like Terrell Davis again, who fit into this stretch offense about as well as Montana fit into it as a QB.

As a first year player, it's entirely possible that he's being told specifically to ignore his instincts and run to where the design of the play is, and that any responsibility for the results is on the coaching staff.

I think it's way to early to start talking about vision. He's likely on a somewhat short leash for now.


I don't even think Hillman was all that fast


Nothing to write home about, but faster than any other back on the team or Forsett.

[Lynch12]

Should never tell a RB to disregard instincts, its what makes good backs good.

[BigDaddyBronco]

I had him on ignore by then. Did this really happen?

Yes. Look up yashalala or whatever on the google. It has something to do with this cult.

[BroncoWave]

Good thing we have Forsett instead of that fumble prone Hillman amirite?

[Poet]

Good thing we have Forsett instead of that fumble prone Hillman amirite?

Style brother, this isn't fair. Forsett has a long history of not fumbling, and Hillman does fumble a bit. His league average is lower though. Forsett is less likely to fumble than Hillman, which is impressive as RH is an ironclad holder of the ball.

[turftoad]

Good thing we have Forsett instead of that fumble prone Hillman amirite?

Forsett looks like what we thought Hillman was gonna be already. Quick and shifty.

[Simple Jaded]

Even Google doesn't know what yashalala is.

[7DnBrnc53]

What was the name of that stiff from Arizona St that Shanatan compared to TD? That's more like it, forgettable.

Ryan Torain. He was injured a lot in 2008, and was cut by McDiaper the next year. He played some for Shanny in Washington, but didn't last too long.

[Simple Jaded]

Ryan Torain. He was injured a lot in 2008, and was cut by McDiaper the next year. He played some for Shanny in Washington, but didn't last too long.

Boom! Good memory.

Btw, dude was stiff as a board, had nothing remotely close to TD.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Good thing we have Forsett instead of that fumble prone Hillman amirite?


Style brother, this isn't fair. Forsett has a long history of not fumbling, and Hillman does fumble a bit. His league average is lower though. Forsett is less likely to fumble than Hillman, which is impressive as RH is an ironclad holder of the ball.

I also saw Forsett break a tackle today and pickup a blitz, so....

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Good thing we have Forsett instead of that fumble prone Hillman amirite?


Boom! Good memory.

Btw, dude was stiff as a board, had nothing remotely close to TD.

Didn't he have a 1k season in Washington with a 5.2 ypc bag?

[Poet]

I also saw Forsett break a tackle today and pickup a blitz, so....

Blitz pickup the first week in is impressive, even with system familiarity.

[Simple Jaded]

Didn't he have a 1k season in Washington with a 5.2 ypc bag?

I'd be shocked.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I'd be shocked.

I just looked it up. He had 764 yards with a 4.5 average in 10'. I believe that season was cut short due to injury

[dogfish]

Yes. Look up yashalala or whatever on the google.

hey there, daddy-O! nice to see ya. . .

but let's not go getting stupid reckless with the advice, okay?

:laugh::fear:

[dogfish]

I also saw Forsett break a tackle today and pickup a blitz, so....

you mean unlike our first snap, where rookie booker whiffed completely, and almost got our gimp QB killed?

[Bronco4ever]

The fumble sucked, but there's only so much more I can tolerate watching Booker run. Forsett looked like he set up his blockers on the run that was called back. Hopefully he can get up to speed on the game plans and start next week.

[Poet]

you mean unlike our first snap, where rookie booker whiffed completely, and almost got our gimp QB killed?

QB's are supposed to identify blitzers. TS had a whole year to learn defenses. His failure to do so has been a constant theme, Doggula. But your point is well taken. I like the Forsett pick up.

[Tned]

you mean unlike our first snap, where rookie booker whiffed completely, and almost got our gimp QB killed?

Yea, that was bad. Even little Ronnie Hillman would actually take a rusher head on, no matter how big, not try and dive at the ankles. NFL rushers are too good for that hit them in the shins stuff. If he's going to go low, he needs to be sure, if not, hit him in the chest and stand him up, even if it's only for a fraction of a second.

[Simple Jaded]

I think Forsett has a chance to take Booker's job, that'd be hilarious after Booker talking about how he's here to take someone's job.

[Tned]

I think Forsett has a chance to take Booker's job, that'd be hilarious after Booker talking about how he's here to take someone's job.

While he only ran 6 times and one ended in a fumble (a good run), he showed some promise.

Broncos have to do something. Can't win with 51 passes and 9 rushes or whatever the breakdown was.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

you mean unlike our first snap, where rookie booker whiffed completely, and almost got our gimp QB killed?

Haven't you heard? That was 100% the quarterback's fault.

[Simple Jaded]

While he only ran 6 times and one ended in a fumble (a good run), he showed some promise.

Broncos have to do something. Can't win with 51 passes and 9 rushes or whatever the breakdown was.

If he is still capable of that 2014 production I think he's thd better RB, at this point, anyway. But if he gets that kind of production behind this line I'd be shocked.

[Poet]

Haven't you heard? That was 100% the quarterback's fault.

Heaven forbid we expect a QB to identify a blitzer.

This is a trend here: Someone points out something TS did wrong and then, even if that is the case, someone rushes to his defense and says something like what you posted above.

You make me sad, Al.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Heaven forbid we expect a QB to identify a blitzer.

This is a trend here: Someone points out something TS did wrong and then, even if that is the case, someone rushes to his defense and says something like what you posted above.

You make me sad, Al.

You're 100% correct with your condescending post. If I disagree with a post by either you or MO's elite QB analysis it means I defend all things Trevor and weep into my Trevor pillow case while knowing for certain his all pro nomination is secure. 

[Poet]

You're 100% correct with your condescending post. If I disagree with a post by either you or MO's elite QB analysis it means I defend all things Trevor and weep into my Trevor pillow case while knowing for certain his all pro nomination is secure. 

The irony is that you're accusing me of something you literally just did. Oh, it's not fun to have it thrown back in your face? Hmm....

[dogfish]

Yea, that was bad. Even little Ronnie Hillman would actually take a rusher head on, no matter how big, not try and dive at the ankles.

except hillman would fail to identify the blitz, and miss completely while trying to block on the wrong side of the formation. . .


While he only ran 6 times and one ended in a fumble (a good run), he showed some promise.

Broncos have to do something. Can't win with 51 passes and 9 rushes or whatever the breakdown was.

i thought it was already a consensus that he's starting next week. . . at least he went forwards with some semblance of quickness!


i don't know if booker is hurt or horrible, or both. . . but you can only run for two YPC so many weeks and keep starting. . .

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

The irony is that you're accusing me of something you literally just did. Oh, it's not fun to have it thrown back in your face? Hmm....
Fire with fire, eh?

I haven't addressed you once until now.

Good night all.

[dogfish]

The irony is that you're accusing me of something you literally just did. Oh, it's not fun to have it thrown back in your face? Hmm....

don't sass mr. mayor, youngster. . .

leave that to jaded's cynical old ass, he's got it covered. . .

[Simple Jaded]

My question is who set the protection on that play? I'm not a big fan of putting a 215lb RB on a 270lb DE. (He says as he ignores the fact that the 312lb T's aren't much better)

[Lynch12]

People really.bashing a 4th round rookie running back for not understanding the game yet. Bunch ofI whiners.

[BroncoWave]

People really.bashing a 4th round rookie running back for not understanding the game yet. Bunch ofI whiners.

So we can't bash a 4th round rookie, but we can absolutely bash a 7th round second year player? Do you have a spreadsheet of who we are and aren't allowed to bash?

[Freyaka]

QB's are supposed to identify blitzers. TS had a whole year to learn defenses. His failure to do so has been a constant theme, Doggula. But your point is well taken. I like the Forsett pick up.

And how do you know that he didn't identify it and booker just wiffed it? You aren't on the field so basically you are just speculating based on what you saw and assuming that's what happened.

[Freyaka]

People really.bashing a 4th round rookie running back for not understanding the game yet. Bunch ofI whiners.

Why not, you bash a 7th round QB all the time...Why is one fair game, but not the other? Oh that's right, because the 4th round rookie isn't holding back your QB...

[BroncoWave]

So we can't bash a 4th round rookie, but we can absolutely bash a 7th round second year player? Do you have a spreadsheet of who we are and aren't allowed to bash?

Aw, he got banned. RIP Lynch12, we hardly knew ye. At least he has his 4 story mansion and submissive wife to go back to!

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

My question is who set the protection on that play? I'm not a big fan of putting a 215lb RB on a 270lb DE. (He says as he ignores the fact that the 312lb T's aren't much better)

I've wondered the same thing myself. I'm leaning towards Paradis calling the protection, but sometimes it looks like Trevor is doing it. So, I'm not 100% sure.

This is probably an area which is a glaring weakness we don't discuss much. It's an area CJ would have been really helpful in. Without the experience of CJ diagnosing blitzes we are left with the collective experience of Trevor and Paradis.

[Tned]

I've wondered the same thing myself. I'm leaning towards Paradis calling the protection, but sometimes it looks like Trevor is doing it. So, I'm not 100% sure.

This is probably an area which is a glaring weakness we don't discuss much. It's an area CJ would have been really helpful in. Without the experience of CJ diagnosing blitzes we are left with the collective experience of Trevor and Paradis.

I know they said early on CJ was helping Siemian, and in Lynch's start, it was said the RB's and Paradis were having to help him both with calls and protections.

[Poet]

And how do you know that he didn't identify it and booker just wiffed it? You aren't on the field so basically you are just speculating based on what you saw and assuming that's what happened.

Well, for starters, QB's who identify blitzers tend to account for the blocking being beaten. So, if he did identify the blitzer, that's actually worse.

[Tned]

Well, for starters, QB's who identify blitzers tend to account for the blocking being beaten. So, if he did identify the blitzer, that's actually worse.

If he expected Booker to at least slow him down, wouldn't that not happening interrupt the play?

[Freyaka]

If he expected Booker to at least slow him down, wouldn't that not happening interrupt the play?

That's what I'm getting at, how do we freaking know that he didn't identify the blitz, indicate for Booker to stay in protection and booker wiffed...That's not on the QB. That's on the RB for not doing his job... If I remember the play correctly Booker went low like he was going to attempt a block and the defender just completely went around him and hit Trevor. A QB can't force the RB to properly chip the blitzer.

Unless blocking is now something we also expect the QB to do in which case lets just get the pitchforks and head over to Trevor's.

[Poet]

So let's think about this Freyaka, just for one second. You're the QB. Your RB is supposed to take on a rusher by himself. You're not going to be extra cognitive of that? Against a pass rusher of any skill most of the time a TE on a rusher isn't desirable, let alone a RB.

[Tned]

So let's think about this Freyaka, just for one second. You're the QB. Your RB is supposed to take on a rusher by himself. You're not going to be extra cognitive of that? Against a pass rusher of any skill most of the time a TE on a rusher isn't desirable, let alone a RB.

Green also went in motion and lined up opposite said rusher. As we don't know what was called, we don't know whether Green was motioned over for the purpose of picking up the rusher and didn't. There is a lot that we don't know at this point.

[Poet]

It doesn't matter if Green is supposed to get the rusher. You have a RB and in that case a TE (two positions who typically chip) vs a legitimate pass rusher. That's something as a QB you stay cognitive of.

Imagine for a second if an opposing QB looks over and sees Von Miller and he's going to be blocked by a RB and a TE. I'm just using the example to illustrate a point.

[BroncoJoe]

It doesn't matter if Green is supposed to get the rusher. You have a RB and in that case a TE (two positions who typically chip) vs a legitimate pass rusher. That's something as a QB you stay cognitive of.

Imagine for a second if an opposing QB looks over and sees Von Miller and he's going to be blocked by a RB and a TE. I'm just using the example to illustrate a point.

Siemian had his back turned with play-action until the last second.

[Poet]

Siemian had his back turned with play-action until the last second.

I should not know about the rushers that I can identify at the LoS because in several seconds I will be executing a playaction pass.

[BroncoJoe]

I should not know about the rushers that I can identify at the LoS because in several seconds I will be executing a playaction pass.

Six of one, and half a dozen of the other.

[Poet]

Six of one, and half a dozen of the other.

if there were six rushers identified who all beat the TE then football has become a very strange game. :eek:

[Davii]

It's a cluster. Our line sucks, we have a young QB, and we have a young RB. All three combine to ensure we have free rushers, barely blocked rushers, and people in our backfield on nearly every snap. If one of those three weren't the case we might be able to make something happen (If Peyton were here he would damn sure at least make the right call, if the line was better TS would have a bit more time, and if we had a more experienced RB (we might) he could help with at least picking up a free blitzer.)

It's a perfect storm of youth and lack of skillsets. Our coaching along the OL is also absolutely horrendous, and our playcalling isn't a lot better.

[BroncoJoe]

It's a cluster. Our line sucks, we have a young QB, and we have a young RB. All three combine to ensure we have free rushers, barely blocked rushers, and people in our backfield on nearly every snap. If one of those three weren't the case we might be able to make something happen (If Peyton were here he would damn sure at least make the right call, if the line was better TS would have a bit more time, and if we had a more experienced RB (we might) he could help with at least picking up a free blitzer.)

It's a perfect storm of youth and lack of skillsets. Our coaching along the OL is also absolutely horrendous, and our playcalling isn't a lot better.

That's a lot of "if's".

:yo:

[Tned]

That's a lot of "if's".

:yo:

Including, if we could listen to the helmet calls we would have heard:

"Siemian, you piece of shit, pay attention and get the protection right."
or
"Siemian, tell Booker if he misses another block we are trading him to Cleveland."

If only we could listen in, we would know the mysteries of Sunday...

[Davii]

This offense is going to give Kubiak another complex migraine stroke thingy. Or it'll give me one. One of the two.

[Freyaka]

This offense is going to give Kubiak another complex migraine stroke thingy. Or it'll give me one. One of the two.

I had a massive migraine post game (Part of which was why I was an utter ******* post game, the other part was I was pissed and grumpy)

[GEM]

This offense is going to give Kubiak another complex migraine stroke thingy. Or it'll give me one. One of the two.

This offense is giving me "Do laundry by halftime" syndrome. I got a lot of laundry done yesterday. I don't know whether to dance or cry.

[Tned]

This offense is giving me "Do laundry by halftime" syndrome. I got a lot of laundry done yesterday. I don't know whether to dance or cry.

We vote dance (and don't forget the webcam...)

[NightTerror218]

Its hard for me to blame play calling when i dont k ow if its a bad play or execution. To me right now its execution because you can watch the OL miss blocks entirely or get man handled and pancaked.

[BroncoJoe]

Its hard for me to blame play calling when i dont k ow if its a bad play or execution. To me right now its execution because you can watch the OL miss blocks entirely or get man handled and pancaked.

No. It's Trevor Siemian's fault.

[Poet]

No. It's Trevor Siemian's fault.

It amazes me how people believe any criticism of TS means he's blamed for anything. It amazes me.

[dogfish]

It amazes me how people believe any criticism of TS means he's blamed for anything. It amazes me.

if you live to joe's age, you'll be cantankerous also. . . now, off the lawn with ya. . . :heh:

[Simple Jaded]

I've wondered the same thing myself. I'm leaning towards Paradis calling the protection, but sometimes it looks like Trevor is doing it. So, I'm not 100% sure.

This is probably an area which is a glaring weakness we don't discuss much. It's an area CJ would have been really helpful in. Without the experience of CJ diagnosing blitzes we are left with the collective experience of Trevor and Paradis.

I would think Paradis too but Nalen has mentioned that he may not be making calls for the entire protection. Which might actually be part of the problem. Maybe that'd be the case if Paradis were able to practice full time, he is most likely the most qualified.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

This offense is giving me "Do laundry by halftime" syndrome. I got a lot of laundry done yesterday. I don't know whether to dance or cry.

I'm inclined to think it will give you a paragraph of asterisks. 😆

[Tned]

No. It's Trevor Siemian's fault.

Joe, don't be that way. Nobody said it was Siemian's fault, just that:

It's not the Oline's fault.
It's not the WR's fault
It's not the TE's fault
It's not the RB's fault
It's not the coach's fault
It's not the groundkeepers fault

And, something about the QB bring responsible for the offense or something like that...

[Poet]

No one on the board says the line's shit play doesn't matter.

No. One.

The fact that you guys have to represent that as argumentation is really pathetic.

[Tned]

No one on the board says the line's shit play doesn't matter.

No. One.

The fact that you guys have to represent that as argumentation is really pathetic.

No one on the board says Siemian never makes mistakes and it's always the line's fault.

No. One.

The fact that you guys have to represent that as argumentation is really pathetic.

[Poet]

No one on the board says Siemian never makes mistakes and it's always the line's fault.

No. One.

The fact that you guys have to represent that as argumentation is really pathetic.

Actually, the result of many people's comments in totality exactly leads to that conclusion.

False equivalences don't work.

[Tned]

Actually, the result of many people's comments in totality exactly leads to that conclusion.

False equivalences don't work.

:aetsch:

[Poet]

:eviltongue:

[Tned]

:eviltongue:

:blah:

[Poet]

:blah:

:playball::playball::playball::playball:

[Tned]

:playball::playball::playball::playball:

:smack:

- .... . / --- ..-. ..-. . -. ... .. ...- . / .-.. .. -. . / ... ..- -.-. -.- ...

:argue:

[Poet]

:flypig:

[dogfish]

really?

[Tned]

really?

:withstupid:

[Tned]

really?

After me and BJ were called pathetic (who would ever call a BJ pathetic), as I didn't want to endure the wrath of Gem (really, I do, but don't tell anyone), I thought it was best to have a smiley war, because nobody can get mad at that....

[Poet]

:spam4:

Thank god you're the bigger man

[Tned]

:spam4:

Thank god you're the bigger man

:ban:

Smarter man, too...

[Poet]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Tned]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

:rofl:

[GEM]

Would you 2, and I'm asking as nicely as possible, please s t f u! Take your smileys to different sides of the board and ignore the ever living shit out of each, because if you 2 continue this in every thread you go in, well, may God gave mercy on your souls, because I certainly won't.

[Tned]

Would you 2, and I'm asking as nicely as possible, please s t f u! Take your smileys to different sides of the board and ignore the ever living shit out of each, because if you 2 continue this in every thread you go in, well, may God gave mercy on your souls, because I certainly won't.

Considering the other inane, off topic bullshit that happens in nearly every thread, I didn't realize a few smilies would upset anyone. As once again, people were being called PATHETIC of the like for having a ******* opinion, I thought posting a few smileys might divert the holier than though bullshit and keep it lite.

So, if I violate a rule, ******* tell me. If not, start a town hall thread about smiley use so I know what the **** I can and can't do. This shit is getting old.

[GEM]

Wow, really? I was trying to lighten the mood in here because the 2 of you just won't ******* stop. The funny part is iwas laughing as i posted that because of the comments from Al about asterisks. Every damn thread. You want the truth then. ..you're my friend, but you cause a shit ton of the issues you're involved in here. You instigate just as much as you complain about others instigating. You post condescending jabs as much as any other poster here. You got that previous reply in thread because within the last 2 days I've asked you guys to ignore each other, Mo's done so, yet you and king keep going, in multiple threads.

[Freyaka]

Wow, really? I was trying to lighten the mood in here because the 2 of you just won't ******* stop. The funny part is iwas laughing as i posted that because of the comments from Al about asterisks. Every damn thread. You want the truth then. ..you're my friend, but you cause a shit ton of the issues you're involved in here. You instigate just as much as you complain about others instigating. You post condescending jabs as much as any other poster here. You got that previous reply in thread because within the last 2 days I've asked you guys to ignore each other, Mo's done so, yet you and king keep going, in multiple threads.

http://dudelol.com/img/to-the-death.jpeg

I propose a cage match fight to the death. Winner is allowed to keep posting here...Loser gets put 6 feet under and becomes worm feed.