Copa America

[MOtorboat]

U.s.a.! U.s.a.!

[aberdien]

Putting my money on Chile.

[Dapper Dan]

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[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Wha happen?

[Slick]

It's going to be a tough test against the Colombians tonight.

[Slick]

Wha happen?

Nothing yet. It starts tonight.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Nothing yet. It starts tonight.

I don't have satellite anymore, so unless Fox carries it I probably won't get to watch it.

[MOtorboat]

I don't have satellite anymore, so unless Fox carries it I probably won't get to watch it.

USA's matches are all on FS1, but there are games on Saturdays and Sunday's on Fox.

[underrated29]

We are all going out to watch the game....I like watching soccer on tv. Its a much slower version of hockey but it still is very entertaining.

Waaay better than basketball or baseball

[aberdien]

The game will also be shown on Univision I believe if you have that. That's how i'm going to watch it. Spanish announcers are much more entertaining anyway.

[Valar Morghulis]

We have the euros coming up as well, but Scotland never qualified ( as usual ) so I am all in on the states in the copa

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

The game will also be shown on Univision I believe if you have that. That's how i'm going to watch it. Spanish announcers are much more entertaining anyway.

You might be onto something there. Univision and Telemundo are not the same thing are they? I'm hoping it's on Telemundo because it's in HD

[elsid13]

I believe that we can win! Go USA

[elsid13]

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[Slick]

Down 2 goals after 45 minutes. Pretty much what I expected against the Columbians.

[Poet]

Down 2 goals after 45 minutes. Pretty much what I expected against the Columbians.

We'll always be back-to-back world war champs, though.

[aberdien]

US really has had a bad year, so this is no surprise. South America has too many good teams. We lack superstars and can't keep relying on Dempsey as our one weapon.

[Poet]

US really has had a bad year, so this is no surprise. South America has too many good teams. We lack superstars and can't keep relying on Dempsey as our one weapon.

In the office there's a new guy who is a huge soccer fan and when I told him I was getting interested in the sport he told to not watch today.

[aberdien]

We aren't terrible and will almost certainly qualify for the World Cup, but we are at best second-tier team.

I'm glad you're watching though. Soccer is awesome. And one good thing about the Central American/African immigrants coming in to the USA is hopefully (https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/jun/01/us-soccer-diversity-problem-world-football) we will have a bunch of really kickass soccer players in a few years.

[Dapper Dan]

At least the women are good.

[underrated29]

We watched the game at a place called the view house in the dtc and suck me sideways it is cougar central. Never seen so many in one place, ever.

[MOtorboat]

Still a chance for six points and a knockout round appearance.

[Valar Morghulis]

We watched the game at a place called the view house in the dtc and suck me sideways it is cougar central. Never seen so many in one place, ever.

Send the zip code for my next visit

[elsid13]

Can we fire the freaking German now???

[BroncoJoe]

We watched the game at a place called the view house in the dtc and suck me sideways it is cougar central. Never seen so many in one place, ever.

And you didn't invite me over for a beer? Shame on you.

[Slick]

Can we fire the freaking German now???

Fire the players. They suck. Jurgen can only do so much with the talent he has. Until the US has more players playing in the European leagues on the regular, it's always going to be like this.

[elsid13]

Fire the players. They suck. Jurgen can only do so much with the talent he has. Until the US has more players playing in the European leagues on the regular, it's always going to be like this.

I'm not buying that anymore. Almost everyone on that starting eleven is/has played oversea at top level. The 4-3-3 decision was disaster and they looked unprepared and uninterested.

[Slick]

Still a chance for six points and a knockout round appearance.

It will be tough.

[Slick]

I'm not buying that anymore. Almost everyone on that starting eleven is/has played oversea at top level. The 4-3-3 decision was disaster and they looked unprepared and uninterested.

The 4-3-3 worked well in the last 2 friendlies. ...and some of those guys might have played overseas but they spent most of the time on the bench.

Tell me who you think on that roster is a good talent.

[elsid13]

The 4-3-3 worked well in the last 2 friendlies. ...and some of those guys might have played overseas but they spent most of the time on the bench.

Tell me who you think on that roster is a good talent.

John Brooks (Hertha Berlin),
Geoff Cameron (Stoke City)
DeAndre Yedlin (Sunderland/Tottenham Hotspur)
Bobby Wood (Hamburg SV)
Christian Pulisic (Borussia Dortmund)
Gyasi Zardes (LA Galaxy)

Others that off the team that should be on it:
Jordan Morris (Forward Seattle)
Matt Miazga (Defender just signed by Chelsea)
Green

[Slick]

John Brooks (Hertha Berlin),
Geoff Cameron (Stoke City)
DeAndre Yedlin (Sunderland/Tottenham Hotspur)
Bobby Wood (Hamburg SV)
Christian Pulisic (Borussia Dortmund)
Gyasi Zardes (LA Galaxy)

Others that off the team that should be on it:
Jordan Morris (Forward Seattle)
Matt Miazga (Defender just signed by Chelsea)
Green

None of those guys are very good. We'll have to agree to disagree.

I have hope for Morris and Pulisic.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Send the zip code for my next visit

Take a moment to reflect on something Dave. Cougars pursue young dudes.

Just sayin'.

[Dapper Dan]

Take a moment to reflect on something Dave. Cougars pursue young dudes.

Just sayin'.

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[Valar Morghulis]

Take a moment to reflect on something Dave. Cougars pursue young dudes. Just sayin'.

I know, I just want to kill one.

[MOtorboat]

Costa Rica-Paraguay hasn't been all that entertaining.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Costa Rica-Paraguay hasn't been all that entertaining.

Agreed

[MOtorboat]

Brazil-Ecuador was really entertaining.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Brazil-Ecuador was really entertaining.

I missed it.

[Dapper Dan]

I can't see this thread without getting that Copacabana song stuck in my head.

[underrated29]

Send the zip code for my next visit



Its right down down the street from my new place.



And you didn't invite me over for a beer? Shame on you.

I had no clue this place was going to be like that. My friends just invited me to have a drink and watch the game.
PS- the drinks there suck. I had 8 Rum and Cokes and was not even buzzed, not a little. My friends girl who is a light weight had 6 mojitos and she was good too. Basically you spend a lot of money on ice and coke, apparently.

[Dapper Dan]

Its right down down the street from my new place.




I had no clue this place was going to be like that. My friends just invited me to have a drink and watch the game.
PS- the drinks there suck. I had 8 Rum and Cokes and was not even buzzed, not a little. My friends girl who is a light weight had 6 mojitos and she was good too. Basically you spend a lot of money on ice and coke, apparently.

I've been listening to rap music. Ice and Coke are expensive.

[OrangeHoof]

LOL. The PA played the Chilean national anthem to introduce the Uruguayan team. The team was standing at attention along the sideline with puzzled looks on their faces.

[BroncoJoe]

Its right down down the street from my new place.




I had no clue this place was going to be like that. My friends just invited me to have a drink and watch the game.
PS- the drinks there suck. I had 8 Rum and Cokes and was not even buzzed, not a little. My friends girl who is a light weight had 6 mojitos and she was good too. Basically you spend a lot of money on ice and coke, apparently.

I was more referencing the fact you were in my neck of the woods. I don't care about the cougars. As to the rest, that's why I drink beer.

[Slick]

They're in a 4-4-2 tonight sid.

Hopefully Joel Campbell takes it easy on them.

[MOtorboat]

U-s-a! U-s-a!

[MOtorboat]

How about 3-0 at the half?

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

How about 3-0 at the half?

Who's carrying the game?

[Poet]

Who is the USA stylegod?

[MOtorboat]

who's carrying the game?

fs1.

[Poet]

This Jones guy looks like a style god.

[MOtorboat]

Bedoya has had a rough night.

[MOtorboat]

Sporting KC represent!

4-0!

[elsid13]

Good showing. They needed this

[MOtorboat]

U.s.a.! U.s.a.!

[Poet]

U.s.a.! U.s.a.!

I just turned it on. I still wish someone would tell me who our stylegod is.

[MOtorboat]

I just turned it on. I still wish someone would tell me who our stylegod is.

Clint Dempsey.

[Poet]

I do not understand what just happened but I do recall that red cards are quite bad.

[aberdien]

After his defending this game, I nominate John Brooks as our new stylegod.

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[aberdien]

Yedlin two yellow cards in under a minute? He is the future, and will be a star, but he is young yet.

[MOtorboat]

I do not understand what just happened but I do recall that red cards are quite bad.

Some bullshit just happened right there.

[MOtorboat]

This Paraguay team flops as much as Italy. I can't believe they haven't been carded for it.

[Poet]

Some bullshit just happened right there.

Was the first one some BS? The announcers said the second one was legitimate.

[MOtorboat]

Was the first one some BS? The announcers said the second one was legitimate.

The first was awful, IMO.

[Poet]

Why was there not a penalty on our last deep possession -just right after the second yellow card-? I am confused.

[MOtorboat]

Why was there not a penalty on our last deep possession -just right after the second yellow card-? I am confused.

You're not alone.

Essentially, the referee said the Paraguay player touched the ball before touching Bobby Wood.

[MOtorboat]

Shoot it Gyasi!

[Poet]

Holy shit!!!!!

[Poet]

You're not alone.

Essentially, the referee said the Paraguay player touched the ball before touching Bobby Wood.

But...he clearly didn't.

[MOtorboat]

But...he clearly didn't.

That's what I thought too.

[Poet]

Even I know that was wrong. Shoot the refs.

[Poet]

Whoa... I got intense.

[MOtorboat]

Colombia is playing the B team. Have to win now.

[Poet]

Colombia is playing the B team. Have to win now.

I just painted "Back to Back World War Champs," onto my chest and started a BBQ. Is this how we soccer?

[MOtorboat]

I just painted "Back to Back World War Champs," onto my chest and started a BBQ. Is this how we soccer?

Sounds like a good start. Hooliganism is fun.

[Poet]

Sounds like a good start. Hooliganism is fun.

I've -seriously- browsed through the rules of Foreign Football. I think I like it.

[Slick]

I just painted "Back to Back World War Champs," onto my chest and started a BBQ. Is this how we soccer?

Yes!

[Slick]

I missed the match. Bummer. Yedlin will miss the next one against either Brazil, Peru or Ecuador.

[Northman]

Good to see Costa Rica show up tonight.

[MOtorboat]

Good to see Costa Rica show up tonight.

I don't really get why Colombia called off the dogs. They'll face Brazil instead of Peru because of it.

James Rodriguez, Juan Cuadrado and their No. 1 keeper all sat.

[Slick]

I think James was injured.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I've -seriously- browsed through the rules of Foreign Football. I think I like it.

"Seriously browsed " is an oxymoron. Don't play games with us. Are you in or not?

[Poet]

"Seriously browsed " is an oxymoron. Don't play games with us. Are you in or not?

It was meant to convey that I actually did it and was not mean as an indication of the severity of strength of my browsing.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

It was meant to convey that I actually did it and was not mean as an indication of the severity of strength of my browsing.

Either way it was a delicious sentence.

"I quickly loitered"
"I moderately murder-danced"

[Poet]

Either way it was a delicious sentence.

"I quickly loitered"
"I moderately murder-danced"

With the understanding that I just gave you it would not be delicious.

One cannot quickly loiter unless one is just standing around for a few moments and is accused of loitering. One call moderately murderdance if they just dance the murder on one person and not multiple people. I thought you understood Kingisms better, Al. I can only shake my head in sadness.

[Valar Morghulis]

Sounds like a good start. Hooliganism is fun.

Have you been following the hooligan English fans at the euros?

Carnage

[Poet]

I still can't pick my team.

[Valar Morghulis]

I still can't pick my team.

Club team??

What league are you mainly considering la liga, premier etc etc?

[MOtorboat]

Have you been following the hooligan English fans at the euros?

Carnage

Of course. Pretty crazy. You people are crazy.

[MOtorboat]

I still can't pick my team.

You are rooting for the US in this particular competition. Don't be a traitor.

[Poet]

You are rooting for the US in this particular competition. Don't be a traitor.

Oh that's a given. I meant for the EPL. Wrong thread.

[MOtorboat]

Club team??

What league are you mainly considering la liga, premier etc etc?

Blue moon! I saw you standing alone!

[Poet]

Club team??

What league are you mainly considering la liga, premier etc etc?

EPL. I'll go find that thread.

[Northman]

I still can't pick my team.

Germany bud, Germany.

[Northman]

I love watching Peru frustrate the shit out of Brazil. lol

[Northman]

Venezuela has had Mexico on their heels since the game began. Venezuela has also been very physical with Mexico and pushing them around a bit. Surprised the officials have allowed that much physicality but they are letting them play but im expecting a fight here soon. In the 65th minute and Venezuela leads 1-0.

[Northman]

Mexico and Venezuela finished in a 1-1 tie.

Uruguay leads Jamaica 1-0 on a score at the 20th minute.

[Poet]

I didn't know you followed soccer, Northman.

[Northman]

I didn't know you followed soccer, Northman.

I mostly watch during the World Cup but i do try to catch games when i can. Im still familiarizing myself with the Copa America and Euro 2016 leagues.

[Slick]

Here we go!

[Northman]

Go USA.

[MOtorboat]

U.s.a.! U.s.a.!

[MOtorboat]

I think Bobby Wood has really played well in the Copa.

[Northman]

Almost got that one even with the slow roll.

[Northman]

Wow, lazy defense there by the USA. Very sloppy with the ball down in their own end.

[Northman]

Goal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Slick]

Oh hell yes!

[Slick]

Golazo by Dempsey!

[MOtorboat]

And Bobby Wood cleared out all that space to let Dempsey slip in for the cross. They are playing great right now.

[Northman]

They should nickname the US Goalie Gozer. Everytime i see the back of his jersey thats immediately looks like. lol

[Slick]

Sucks to see that stadium half empty but the half that are there are representing!

[Northman]

Oh man. That was close.

[Northman]

Jesus, what are those guys doing? How do you get that sloppy with the ball? lol

[Poet]

God is punishing me.

[Slick]

That was a good first half. Ecuador has some speed. They better stay alert on those counterattacks. The US midfield looks better than theirs and Wood and Dempsey are hustling. Bradley is a stud. I think he's the best player on the field. You can tell he p!ayed in Europe. He's got style.

[Slick]

And he's pimping the rainbow captain's armband.

[Northman]

What the hell happened there? Holy crap.

[Northman]

Is the US playing a man down again? lol

[Slick]

Is the US playing a man down again? lol

No Valencia was sent off for that cheap hack on Bedoya but Jones is a dumbass for pushing the other dude in the face. It's 10 against 10 now.

[MOtorboat]

That was awful.

[Northman]

Lot of tension out there right now.

[Slick]

That was awful.

It was. Wood just got a yellow. I'm not sure why but he'll miss the next match along with Jones if the US can hang on. Not good.

[Northman]

Good setup, too high.

[Slick]

More space seems to favor Ecuador. They're faster. Zardes sucks.

[Northman]

Goal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MOtorboat]

Suck it ref.

[Dapper Dan]

2-0!

[Slick]

Zardes sucks.

[Poet]

Cavs come back and style.

[Northman]

Goal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

2-1 USA now.

[Dapper Dan]

Cavs come back and style.

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Edit: they censor ess tee eff yoo

[Poet]

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I don't want it....I also posted this in the wrong thread. I'm sorry. USA!

[Dapper Dan]

i don't want it....i also posted this in the wrong thread. I'm sorry. Usa!

usa! Usa! Usa!

[Dapper Dan]

Fukthiscensorshit

[Northman]

USA playing scared now.

[Slick]

Getting dominated right now. They look gassed.

[Northman]

Coach is trying to get them to get fired up and finish.

[Northman]

Ugh, the USA has some issues.

[Slick]

Ugh, the USA has some issues.

They can't seem to maintain possession for shit.

[Slick]

Their coach got sent off.

[Northman]

They can't seem to maintain possession for shit.

The second half reminds me of Bolivia the other day. They werent even trying to set up an offense, just kep kicking it out of their end.

[MOtorboat]

Their coach got sent off.

And is watching from behind the dugout.

[Slick]

Good grief. It's like they're down 2 men.

[Northman]

USA holds on.

[Slick]

Well. They'll get the winner of Argentina Venezuela and they'll be without Jones, Wood and Bedoya.

Messi, DiMaria and Aguero are going to shred them.

[Northman]

Well. They'll get the winner of Argentina Venezuela and they'll be without Jones, Wood and Bedoya.

Messi, DiMaria and Aguero are going to shred them.

Especially if they keep passing and playing defense like that. lol

[Poet]

Especially if they keep passing and playing defense like that. lol

Can we just threaten them with nukes?

[Northman]

Can we just threaten them with nukes?

Probably could just threaten them to take away all of their mosquito repellent deliveries.

[aberdien]

We can get England to give them back the Falkland Islands or whatever in exchange for a win.

[aberdien]

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[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I remember the look of anguish on Messi's face when he received the MVP trophy shortly after Argentina lost.

I just don't see Argentina losing this tournament.

[Northman]

I remember the look of anguish on Messi's face when he received the MVP trophy shortly after Argentina lost.

I just don't see Argentina losing this tournament.

They do look like the best team in this tourney.

[Slick]

Colombia and Chile are the only two teams capable of beating Argentina and even then, I don't think they will.

[Poet]

Colombia and Chile are the only two teams capable of beating Argentina and even then, I don't think they will.

Why is Argentina so good? Is is just raw star power? Is it star power that is cohesive and has synergy? Is it a bonkers all-star roster with depth? Elite defense?

[Northman]

Why is Argentina so good? Is is just raw star power? Is it star power that is cohesive and has synergy? Is it a bonkers all-star roster with depth? Elite defense?

Messi for one, considered probably the best player in the sport right now. But after watching them the other day they have a lot of great chemistry with passing and defense. I often find when watching this sport that the more accurate you are passing the ball and being organized the better the chances of success you have at overcoming other areas that a team is weak in. Some teams are just so sloppy and careless that it sets them up for failure every single time. Argentina just looks like a polished machine out there compared to a lot of the other teams.

[Poet]

Messi for one, considered probably the best player in the sport right now. But after watching them the other day they have a lot of great chemistry with passing and defense. I often find when watching this sport that the more accurate you are passing the ball and being organized the better the chances of success you have at overcoming other areas that a team is weak in. Some teams are just so sloppy and careless that it sets them up for failure every single time. Argentina just looks like a polished machine out there compared to a lot of the other teams.

I gotcha. So they are the team that has star power that works well with one another.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I'm going to watch the next two matches. I believe we're going to see once in a lifetime stuff from Messi. I believe he's out to win for national pride. He was so dejected after the last COPA exit.

[Poet]

I'm going to watch the next two mathes. I believe we're going to see once in a lifetime stuff from Messi. I believe he's out to win for national pride. He was so dejected after the last COPA exit.

You like soccer?

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

You like soccer?

Yes I do. I usually catch as many COPA and World Cup matches as I can.

[Northman]

I'm going to watch the next two matches. I believe we're going to see once in a lifetime stuff from Messi. I believe he's out to win for national pride. He was so dejected after the last COPA exit.

He also didnt do his reputation any favors after his poor attitude following the loss to Germany in the last World Cup.

[Poet]

Yes I do. I usually catch as many COPA and World Cup matches as I can.

I like you more.

North, I thought that that Ronaldo was supposed to be the 'best player in the world'.

[Northman]

I like you more.

North, I thought that that Ronaldo was supposed to be the 'best player in the world'.

He's definitely up there but i think in the last couple of years Messi has kind of taken that mantle.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

He also didnt do his reputation any favors after his poor attitude following the loss to Germany in the last World Cup.

I don't recall, what was his attitude?

[Northman]

I don't recall, what was his attitude?

Didnt shake hands with any of the German players and basically pouted his way off the field.

[elsid13]

Why is Argentina so good? Is is just raw star power? Is it star power that is cohesive and has synergy? Is it a bonkers all-star roster with depth? Elite defense?

They have a number of stars and Messi, who might be the best player ever to play the game.

[aberdien]

I still think Ronaldo > Messi


but they are undoubtedly the two best players in the game right now

[underrated29]

There was a video I saw once of messi going coast to coast with the ball and then making some sweet pass right infront of the net for a goal. Guy undressed the entire other team. Pretty freaking cool to see.

[MOtorboat]

Here's his 2015 FIFA Goal of the Year nominee. It finished second.

https://youtu.be/jlnk8bMeJfM

[Slick]

Here's his 2015 FIFA Goal of the Year nominee. It finished second.

https://youtu.be/jlnk8bMeJfM

I was actually watching that game live. He's the best in my opinion. Ronaldo is great too and right there. The thing I like more about Messi is he's way more humble. Both are a joy to watch.

[MOtorboat]

I was actually watching that game live. He's the best in my opinion. Ronaldo is great too and right there. The thing I like more about Messi is he's way more humble. Both are a joy to watch.

Me too. One of the few Spanish games televised for me is the Copa Del Ray final.

Ronaldo's cross to draw the U.S. is still one of the best crosses I've seen since getting into soccer heavily.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I was actually watching that game live. He's the best in my opinion. Ronaldo is great too and right there. The thing I like more about Messi is he's way more humble. Both are a joy to watch.

Messi's ability to sift through traffic is second to none.

[Slick]

Me too. One of the few Spanish games televised for me is the Copa Del Ray final.

Ronaldo's cross to draw the U.S. is still one of the best crosses I've seen since getting into soccer heavily.

That cross was as accurate as a Peyton Manning pass in his prime. Perfection.

[Northman]

Sweet pass by Messi to help set up the score for Argentina. Argentina 1-0 over Venezuela.

[Northman]

Venezuela goalie sucking it up today. #9 with his second goal in the first half. 2-0 Argentina at the 28th minute.

[MOtorboat]

Venezuela goalie sucking it up today. #9 with his second goal in the first half. 2-0 Argentina at the 28th minute.

Gonzalo Higuain. Plays for Napoli.

[Northman]

Goal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Messi scores at the 60th minute to give Argentina a 3-0 lead.

[Northman]

Venezuela gets on the board. 3-1 now in the 70th minute.

[Northman]

Argentina just got another goal. lol 4-1

[Northman]

Argentina is scary.

[Northman]

Argentina/Venezuela final: 4-1

[Northman]

Mexico and Chile coming up in 10 minutes.

[Northman]

Mexico is getting DESTROYED by Chile. 4-0 at the 53rd minute.

[Northman]

I thought both game tonight would be closer than they ended up being.

[Northman]

Lol, 5-0 Chile now.

[Slick]

Chile are the defending champs, North. They're good.

[Dapper Dan]

Is Mexico not that good?

[Slick]

Is Mexico not that good?

Not really. They don't have anyone close to being as good as Vargas, Vidal or Sanchez.

[Northman]

Chile are the defending champs, North. They're good.

I figured they were but i just expected more out of Mexico and Venezuela tonight. But this is how its going to shape up for the semi-final:

USA
Argentina

Chile
Colombia

I do not have high hopes for the US to beat Messi and company.

[Northman]

Lol. 6-0

[Dapper Dan]

USA plays at 9pm on Tuesday night. The other game is Wednesday night at 8pm. North, do you know if those are Eastern Times?

[Northman]

USA plays at 9pm on Tuesday night. The other game is Wednesday night at 8pm. North, do you know if those are Eastern Times?

Yes, eastern.

[Northman]

7-0..... lmao

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Chile just scored again.

[Poet]

I am watching this. I am stoked to watch this.

[Poet]

USA 2

Argentina negative 12


Book it.

[MOtorboat]

I am watching this. I am stoked to watch this.

I am just hoping the US doesn't get embarrassed. This could be really rough.

[Poet]

I am just hoping the US doesn't get embarrassed. This could be really rough.

I pick America. After what god did to me in the Cle series he owes me.

[MOtorboat]

It's going to be a long night.

[Poet]

It's going to be a long night.

God hates me.

[Poet]

Everything is so widespread and less congested for Argentina...

[Poet]

The long pass is incredible.

[MOtorboat]

The Americans are playing terribly too. It's just not a better team beating them. It's frustrating.

[MOtorboat]

Good job Wondo.

[Poet]

Damn.

[Poet]

Are there normally this many fouls?

[MOtorboat]

Are there normally this many fouls?

It's not a unusual amount.

[Poet]

It's not a unusual amount.

There was just a flurry of them in a short span. I was confused.

[Northman]

This game going pretty much as expected right now.

[Northman]

Kind of a douche move on the US goalie there.

[Poet]

Kind of a douche move on the US goalie there.

He should have went for the stunner.

[Northman]

He should have went for the stunner.

They might as well, they aint doing shit on the offensive end. lol

[elsid13]

There is no one the US that would even make the team for Argentina roster.

[Poet]

There is no one the US that would even make the team for Argentina roster.

Damn.

[Poet]

They might as well, they aint doing shit on the offensive end. lol

Kevin Love is going to sub in and hit the stunner as well.

[Northman]

Kevin Love is going to sub in and hit the stunner as well.

Bwhahahahahahahaha

[Poet]

Wow.

[Northman]

The US is pleading to stop the pain.

[Poet]

This is getting styled on.

[Northman]

4-0 Argentina.

[Slick]

You knew that was going to happen before it even happened. Still, a good showing. I didn't expect them to make the semis.

[Poet]

So that free kick was bonkers.

[Northman]

Messi is amazing.

[Poet]

He was breaking free and they literally just knocked him to the ground. God damn!

[Mike]

I recorded the game and watched it last night. Argentina is amazing and Messi is more than amazing. They made the USA look like a garbage HS team. The US showed no finesse or touch and had bad awareness. It was painful to watch.

Maybe with all the awareness about football injuries more of our youth (or their parents) will start looking in to soccer?

[Dapper Dan]

I recorded the game and watched it last night. Argentina is amazing and Messi is more than amazing. They made the USA look like a garbage HS team. The US showed no finesse or touch and had bad awareness. It was painful to watch.

Maybe with all the awareness about football injuries more of our youth (or their parents) will start looking in to soccer?

That's my hope.

[Dapper Dan]

I recorded the game and watched it last night. Argentina is amazing and Messi is more than amazing. They made the USA look like a garbage HS team. The US showed no finesse or touch and had bad awareness. It was painful to watch.

Maybe with all the awareness about football injuries more of our youth (or their parents) will start looking in to soccer?

That's my hope.

[Poet]

I don't like being styled on in our own country. Can we just put a Steinbrenner in front of USA soccer and buy Messi? Is that a thing?

[Dapper Dan]

I don't like being styled on in our own country. Can we just put a Steinbrenner in front of USA soccer and buy Messi? Is that a thing?

LeBron should have gotten Messi suspended for a game.

[aberdien]

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The USA has not devoted the resources necessary at the lower levels of player development. That's what Klinsmann has talked about many times (to the criticism of many Americans). The USA is weak sauce. If we want to be a good soccer nation, we need youth player development. The best nations with the best soccer players don't go to college and play soccer until they are 22/23 like they do here. By that age, most good players are already playing in the big leagues. Our soccer culture is weird and behind the curve and until we change it from bottom up, we better get used to being no better than average.

[Dapper Dan]

I don't see how it has anything to do with poor/rich people. But I disagree with Whitlock as usual.

[aberdien]

I don't see how it has anything to do with poor/rich people. But I disagree with Whitlock as usual.

The other stuff was more important and the reason I posted it.

I mean, I guess he has a point that soccer is played by the poorest of people all around the world because all you need is a ball. That's why it's so loved in Africa and in South/Central America. That is indisputable IMO. And we have a lot of immigrants from those places now who love soccer, so you'd think years down the line they will grow up and be good enough to play on the national team. But I don't think we suck at soccer because we have a bunch of spoiled rich brats playing for us. We suck at soccer because the infrastructure isn't there. It'll be helpful to get these kids who are more "natural" when it comes to playing soccer since they probably grew up playing it back home, but that in itself is not the key to making USA soccer top tier.

[Dapper Dan]

The other stuff was more important and the reason I posted it.

I mean, I guess he has a point that soccer is played by the poorest of people all around the world because all you need is a ball. That's why it's so loved in Africa and in South/Central America. That is indisputable IMO. And we have a lot of immigrants from those places now who love soccer, so you'd think years down the line they will grow up and be good enough to play on the national team. But I don't think we suck at soccer because we have a bunch of spoiled rich brats playing for us. We suck at soccer because the infrastructure isn't there. It'll be helpful to get these kids who are more "natural" when it comes to playing soccer since they probably grew up playing it back home, but that in itself is not the key to making USA soccer top tier.

I agree that the rest of it is good. I think it's only going to get better though. Soccer is becoming more popular here. More schools at the lower levels are getting soccer programs. It's going to take time but I think we will get there. We will never dominate like in basketball or football, but it will be competitive and fun to watch.

[aberdien]

All that being said, the US is on the right track and I question the sanity of Americans who want to fire Jurgen.

I mean we have a chance of finishing 3rd in a tournament involving teams like Argentina, Chile, Colombia, Brazil, Uruguay, and Mexico. That's pretty damn good and Jurgen deserves the credit.

[Dapper Dan]

All that being said, the US is on the right track and I question the sanity of Americans who want to fire Jurgen.

I mean we have a chance of finishing 3rd in a tournament involving teams like Argentina, Chile, Colombia, Brazil, Uruguay, and Mexico. That's pretty damn good and Jurgen deserves the credit.

Cowherd was on point in your video.

[MOtorboat]

As long as we continue to lead the world in basketball, baseball and football, we won't be a super power in soccer. The best athletes of every nation of the world outside of the United States, Canada, Russia and the Norwegian countries only play soccer. Our best athletes don't even sniff soccer and half of our current Team USA was born in Germany or South America.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

When is the final?

[Slick]

As long as we continue to lead the world in basketball, baseball and football, we won't be a super power in soccer. The best athletes of every nation of the world outside of the United States, Canada, Russia and the Norwegian countries only play soccer. Our best athletes don't even sniff soccer and half of our current Team USA was born in Germany or South America.

I don't buy this.

You think Messi is a great athlete?

He's nothing compared to the US football and basketball players. He simply has a different skill set.

[MOtorboat]

I don't buy this.

You think Messi is a great athlete?

He's nothing compared to the US football and basketball players. He simply has a different skill set.

Maybe he could never play basketball. But he's the same height as Jose Altuve. He's a top flight, world class athlete. If he had devoted his life to baseball, chances are he'd be in the majors.

If some of our top flight athletes, guys like Julio Jones, O'Dell Beckham or Darrelle Revis moved to Germany at age 14 and trained at Bayern, you don't think they'd be world class soccer players?

[Slick]

Maybe he could never play basketball. But he's the same height as Jose Altuve. He's a top flight, world class athlete. If he had devoted his life to baseball, chances are he'd be in the majors.

If some of our top flight athletes, guys like Julio Jones, O'Dell Beckham or Darrelle Revis moved to Germany at age 14 and trained at Bayern, you don't think they'd be world class soccer players?

They might. I just don't think it's that easy. It's such a different sport. What makes a player like Messi great is his touch. It's not really his athleticism.

Think of it like golf. Stregnth and power can only get you so far. If you don't have touch and control of the ball, you aren't going to win.

It's extremely rare to have both.

[Slick]

Look at players like Messi, Maradona, Pele, Thierry Henry, Andres Iniesta, Lewandowski, Muller, Robben, Alexis Sanchez, your boy DeBryune, Eden Hazard. Those guys just aren't super athletes.

Guys like Pogba or Christiano Ronaldo are the exception, not the norm.

The greatest soccer players are pu$$ies compared to other sport stars.


No, I don't think LeBron Hames or Michael Jordan or Julio Jones or Antonio Brown would be good soccer players.

[MOtorboat]

Look at players like Messi, Maradona, Pele, Thierry Henry, Andres Iniesta, Lewandowski, Muller, Robben, Alexis Sanchez, your boy DeBryune, Eden Hazard. Those guys just aren't super athletes.

Guys like Pogba or Christiano Ronaldo are the exception, not the norm.

The greatest soccer players are pu$$ies compared to other sport stars.


No, I don't think LeBron Hames or Michael Jordan or Julio Jones or Antonio Brown would be good soccer players.

I just don't agree. So much of it is training. Ronaldo is 6-1, 175. He's 175 because soccer requires you to run a 5K. If he grew up swinging a bat or pitching, or bulked up in a weight program designed at strength instead of cardio and be 6-1, 205, he couldn't be a running back?

We're talking about specific training from the age of about 10, not, hey, now you play for the Browns. Good luck.

[underrated29]

IM with Slick.

I do not see the correlation. I am a pretty solid athlete. I was good at soccer when I was a kid (mainly because I was fast), but I was never that good. I picked up a hockey stick and ice skates and having never skated on ice before, scored 2 goals my first game. I tried out for my HS hockey team and made varsity- my first year- my second year I made the college team. I was 5'11 and 185 at that time. NO elite measurables. Hockey worked for me, easily, quickly. Soccer, not so much. Some things click for some people. Hockey clicked for me. I would say that I am probably above average in nearly every sport, but I dont think even if I spent my life on soccer I would have been as good.

An all around athlete can still have a higher ceiling in some sports vs others. I think Julius Thomas would make a terrible soccer player, but he is a great TE- we saw how he was ok at BBall and was complete pimp at Football in a span of 3 years.

[Dapper Dan]

IM with Slick.

I do not see the correlation. I am a pretty solid athlete. I was good at soccer when I was a kid (mainly because I was fast), but I was never that good. I picked up a hockey stick and ice skates and having never skated on ice before, scored 2 goals my first game. I tried out for my HS hockey team and made varsity- my first year- my second year I made the college team. I was 5'11 and 185 at that time. NO elite measurables. Hockey worked for me, easily, quickly. Soccer, not so much. Some things click for some people. Hockey clicked for me. I would say that I am probably above average in nearly every sport, but I dont think even if I spent my life on soccer I would have been as good.

An all around athlete can still have a higher ceiling in some sports vs others. I think Julius Thomas would make a terrible soccer player, but he is a great TE- we saw how he was ok at BBall and was complete pimp at Football in a span of 3 years.

#ImWithSlick

[MOtorboat]

Well, my point is, our best athletes don't play soccer. Everyone else's best athletes do.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Well, my point is, our best athletes don't play soccer. Everyone else's best athletes do.

Agreed

I wonder what kind of soccer player Trindon Holliday would have been.

[underrated29]

Well, my point is, our best athletes don't play soccer. Everyone else's best athletes do.



Agreed.
Tosh.0 had a hilarious skit about it too!

[aberdien]

Why can’t U.S. Soccer join the world’s elite? It’s not Jurgen Klinsmann; it’s MLS.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/soccer-insider/wp/2016/06/24/why-cant-u-s-soccer-join-the-worlds-elite-its-not-jurgen-klinsmann-its-mls/


The U.S. defense, anchored by two players from the Bundesliga (John Brooks and Fabian Johnson) and two from the Premier League (DeAndre Yedlin and Geoff Cameron), has been a strength during Copa America. But the entire midfield and forward line in Houston was made up of players from Major League Soccer, which, though improved in stature and quality, still falls a long way short of the top leagues in the world when it comes to relentless pressure on players to improve. It showed on Tuesday: Argentina was sharper, quicker and smarter than its opponent.

But when Orlando City’s Brek Shea returned to MLS last year after an unsuccessful spell in England, he revealed an attitude that was far from that of those that had gone before him.

“One of the reasons I didn’t enjoy England so much is that it’s so small and soccer is the biggest thing there. So everything you do is magnified times a thousand,” he said. Shea added in another interview while playing in England that he missed the weekly team barbecues he enjoyed while with FC Dallas and lamented that playing the game in England was “just different; it’s a job.”

It is indeed a job, and the scrutiny of fans and media members in European football is certainly on a different level — two of the reasons that Klinsmann has been so enthusiastic to encourage his players to test themselves abroad. If the United States is to get to the next level, it won’t be a coach’s tactics that take them there. It will be because its players have been hardened to the point where they would be offended at being called nice.

[Valar Morghulis]

Don't rush it.

America is a desirable market for top players, currently towards the end of their career.

Be patient, once top players start wanting to play in the states, the standard of MLS will improve, ergo the American players will stay in that league will also improve.

Hoping to farm out all your players to Europe will only keep the lack of good youth talent from coming through and make the decision to play baseball instead much easier

Be patient.

[Northman]

Im really kind of surprised America got as far as they did in this tourney. Their passing is atrocious.

[Poet]

Im really kind of surprised America got as far as they did in this tourney. Their passing is atrocious.

I like soccer because style seems to actually matter. Long passes = style. short passes with a staccato pace = style. Kicks with a lot of bend and torque on them = style.

[Northman]

It doesnt help that they allowed Colombia to get under their skin tonight. Not the first time ive seen them lose their cool in the few games i have seen them play in this. USA has a long way to go to get to Chile and Argentina levels.