Daniel Snyder responds to new poll on Redskins nickname

[Denver Native (Carol)]

The long-debated argument over whether the Washington Redskins should be forced to change their nickname took a new twist Thursday when a poll came out via The Washington Post that stated that nine in 10 Native Americans are not offended by the team's name.

That surprising result immediately caused uproar on the Internet, but one person who seemed to be surprisingly quiet on the topic was Daniel Snyder.

The Redskins owner finally spoke late Thursday morning, releasing this quick statement to Pro Football Talk:

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[Northman]

Nine out of ten huh? Thats a pretty big margin.

[TXBRONC]

The one vote for changing the name must also be feeling the Bern.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

The one vote for changing the name must also be feeling the Bern.

Bahaha!!

[OrangeHoof]

Dan Snyder Responds.....
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[OrangeHoof]

"Whiny white liberals to now focus their attention on the Atlanta Braves..."

[TXBRONC]

"Whiny white liberals to now focus their attention on the Atlanta Braves..."

I wouldn't be surprised.

[aberdien]

It should be changed out of principle, but if native americans don't care then I will move this even further down my list of priorities.

[slim]

Why is the result "surprising"? I think it is common knowledge

[OrangeHoof]

ESPN = Extra Silly Politics Network.

[TXBRONC]

It should be changed out of principle, but if native americans don't care then I will move this even further down my list of priorities.

The principle of political correctness?

[OrangeHoof]

I think Cheese Nips are racist - short, yellow slanty-eyed crackers - but the Japanese seem to have no objection to them so I'm like "oh, well..." I didn't try to start a boycott over it.

[Timmy!]

Why is the result "surprising"? I think it is common knowledge

Seems to me a guy from a reservation was telling us this when this issue first came out. He is a smart man, whoever he is.

[aberdien]

The principle of political correctness?

Yes.

[TXBRONC]

Yes.

That's not a good enough reason.

[aberdien]

That's not a good enough reason.
Yes it is, but I know you disagree.

[Dapper Dan]

I can't figure out why anyone wants to name their teams after Native Americans. It seems like you could find a cooler mascot. Though it would explain how the Redskins can't maintain field position. They get pushed back to their own little section of the field.

[OrangeHoof]

I've wanted to see an NFL team named "the Gorillas" because they embody a lot of what we want in today's NFL player (strength, size, agility, fearlessness, willing to rip off appendages, etc.) but you just know if anyone did, the Jacksons and Sharptons would rage about black stereotyping and the shakedowns would begin. Just not worth it but I think it would be way cool. The NFL has cats, birds, heck even Dolphins but nobody from the ape world. All the ape-like nicknames and knick-knacks could all be copywritten so you got a royalty ever time one was used.

But we can't have it because some would get their widdle noses out of joint about it.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I've wanted to see an NFL team named "the Gorillas" because they embody a lot of what we want in today's NFL player (strength, size, agility, fearlessness, willing to rip off appendages, etc.) but you just know if anyone did, the Jacksons and Sharptons would rage about black stereotyping and the shakedowns would begin. Just not worth it but I think it would be way cool. The NFL has cats, birds, heck even Dolphins but nobody from the ape world. All the ape-like nicknames and knick-knacks could all be copywritten so you got a royalty ever time one was used.

But we can't have it because some would get their widdle noses out of joint about it.

Dude, silverbacks aren't native to north America.

[Dapper Dan]

Dude, silverbacks aren't native to north America.

Neither are Giants

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Neither are Giants

What about Andre?

[Dapper Dan]

What about Andre?

He ain't from round here.

[DenBronx]

Cobras would be a cool team name and logo. Matte black with a coiled up gold plated cobra on the logo.

#lethal

[Dapper Dan]

Cobras would be a cool team name and logo. Matte black with a coiled up gold plated cobra on the logo.

#lethal

Blacks are the majority in Washington DC. The most powerful man in DC is President Obama, who is also black. He has spend years in Chicago, where he taught Law among other jobs he help there. The Spanish Cobras have been a prominent gang in Chicago for decades. Spaniards brought diseases that wiped out many Native Americans.

TL;DR Your post is sooooo offensive. Jeez, man.

[Simple Jaded]

Since when does it matter who is offended? All it takes is somebody to get offended, doesn't have to be Native Americans, in this culture that ain't hard to do.

My wife gets pissed when I use the term "gay", I'm pretty sure she's not gay.

[Tned]

Yes it is, but I know you disagree.

I think the point is that if the people that are "supposedly" offended by the name, aren't, then what correctness is at state? We have a group of people that truly believe their motivations are pure (yourself) but that are making an issue of something and trying protect the feelings of a group that isn't offended and doesn't want or need your protection.

This reminds me of a scene I saw in a movie when an old lady is trying to cross the street and this good intentioned fellow runs up to help her. She doesn't want the help and starts smashing him in the head with her bag, and he's ducking the blows while trying to help her across the street.

At least in my movie scene remembrance, even though it was unwanted help, he was actually trying to do something to help her. Here, all we are doing is telling the uneducated, fire water drinking Indians that they aren't smart enough to know they should be offended. Now that epitomizes political correctness.

[Dapper Dan]

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[aberdien]

I think the point is that if the people that are "supposedly" offended by the name, aren't, then what correctness is at state? We have a group of people that truly believe their motivations are pure (yourself) but that are making an issue of something and trying protect the feelings of a group that isn't offended and doesn't want or need your protection.

This reminds me of a scene I saw in a movie when an old lady is trying to cross the street and this good intentioned fellow runs up to help her. She doesn't want the help and starts smashing him in the head with her bag, and he's ducking the blows while trying to help her across the street.

At least in my movie scene remembrance, even though it was unwanted help, he was actually trying to do something to help her. Here, all we are doing is telling the uneducated, fire water drinking Indians that they aren't smart enough to know they should be offended. Now that epitomizes political correctness.
It's not "proper" in this day and age to refer to a particular group of people in that manner, redskins, blackskins, yellowskins, whiteskins, whatever. Such word usage is no longer socially acceptable. That's why I said out of principle the name should be changed, because we are living in a different time now with different social norms and standards. This is known by the derogatory term "political correctness", yes

However I also said it is not and should not be a priority if none of the people to whom the name refers give a damn.

[Dapper Dan]

It's not "proper" in this day and age to refer to a particular group of people in that manner, redskins, blackskins, yellowskins, whiteskins, whatever. Such word usage is no longer socially acceptable. That's why I said out of principle the name should be changed, because we are living in a different time now with different social norms and standards. This is known by the derogatory term "political correctness", yes

However I also said it is not and should not be a priority if none of the people to whom the name refers give a damn.

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[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

"Screw all ya all" Napoleon

[Dapper Dan]

"Screw all ya all" Napoleon

"I'm gonna start my own island. With blackjack. And hookers."

[TXBRONC]

Yes it is, but I know you disagree.

It's not when all you're doing is trying force people to adhere to your own subjective of what you think is principled.

[Simple Jaded]

I am offended that people are offended X's Infinity.

[MOtorboat]

I thought this was an interesting read about this subject:

http://www.uni-watch.com/2016/05/23/some-thoughts-on-the-wapos-redskins-poll/#more-73913

[Dapper Dan]

I thought this was an interesting read about this subject:

http://www.uni-watch.com/2016/05/23/some-thoughts-on-the-wapos-redskins-poll/#more-73913

That's pretty long but I read part of it. I think it's cool how he breaks the numbers down

[OrangeHoof]

Basically, his response is "we can't ignore the 10% who are offended just because of the 90% who aren't" which basically sums up the Left's attitude about anyone claiming they are offended unless the offended are white, male, heterosexual or Christian. Then, it's perfectly okay to offend them until the cows come home and the more often, the better. Just more hypocrisy.

I still say Snyder should retire the Redskins name and sell off the nickname to the highest corporate bidder. Watch the nagging Left's heads explode when he trots out the Washington Windows 10s or the Washington Con-Agras or the Washington Exxon-Mobils and then when the venom spews, Snyder can blow it back in their faces by saying "YOU demanded I change the name. I did that. And since I did, I chose to make the biggest profit I could on the naming rights because I am still the owner of the team."

[TXBRONC]

Basically, his response is "we can't ignore the 10% who are offended just because of the 90% who aren't" which basically sums up the Left's attitude about anyone claiming they are offended unless the offended are white, male, heterosexual or Christian. Then, it's perfectly okay to offend them until the cows come home and the more often, the better. Just more hypocrisy.

I still say Snyder should retire the Redskins name and sell off the nickname to the highest corporate bidder. Watch the nagging Left's heads explode when he trots out the Washington Windows 10s or the Washington Con-Agras or the Washington Exxon-Mobils and then when the venom spews, Snyder can blow it back in their faces by saying "YOU demanded I change the name. I did that. And since I did, I chose to make the biggest profit I could on the naming rights because I am still the owner of the team."

Yeah I thought was rather rich.

I also found it interesting that he criticizes the self-identification crowd and then cites Elizabeth Warren as example.

[Joel]

Basically, his response is "we can't ignore the 10% who are offended just because of the 90% who aren't" which basically sums up the Left's attitude about anyone claiming they are offended unless the offended are white, male, heterosexual or Christian. Then, it's perfectly okay to offend them until the cows come home and the more often, the better. Just more hypocrisy.
That's not his basic response at all: It's a tangent (and if there's one thing I know on sight...) to just one of the EIGHT points he raised, most of them critical of the 'Skins critics (though he does take their defenders to task for a few things by the end.)


I still say Snyder should retire the Redskins name and sell off the nickname to the highest corporate bidder. Watch the nagging Left's heads explode when he trots out the Washington Windows 10s or the Washington Con-Agras or the Washington Exxon-Mobils and then when the venom spews, Snyder can blow it back in their faces by saying "YOU demanded I change the name. I did that. And since I did, I chose to make the biggest profit I could on the naming rights because I am still the owner of the team."
Did you miss the part where he said his ACTUAL point from the start isn't that teams shouldn't be allowed to use the name "Redskins," but that the only people who should be making MONEY off doing so are actual redskins. Maybe that ship sailed when record companies found out they could sell black music to white people using white performers who SOUND black, but it's a valid point. If Budweiser want to change its name to America as cheap transparent marketing ploy, maybe they should pay royalties to every American, Bud drinker or not.

For the record, I think this whole thing's a molehill-made-mountain that we probably wouldn't even be talking about if 1) Snyder weren't such a douche and 2) George Marshall hadn't been such a notorious racist that he refused to sign ANY non-white player until the US Atty. General threatened to kick him out of the federally owned stadium that later bore his name. It's a lot harder to say the name's not racist when it was chosen by a guy in a white sheet.

I don't think anyone chooses to give THEMSELVES a name they intend to be insulting, but I will grant you that there's not a logic involved in any of this debate.

[Simple Jaded]

Shovel your political bullshit some place else.

[TXBRONC]

Shovel your political bullshit some place else.

Who are you talking to?

If you're talking to me well... :viking:

[Dapper Dan]

Who are you talking to?

If you're talking to me well... :viking:

He was obviously talking to you, Tex. Don't take that shit.