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Denver Native (Carol)
05-16-2016, 04:41 PM
ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- The Denver Broncos continued to do what they could this past week with the salary-cap space they have as they moved through most of the business side of their draft class.

The Broncos have now signed five of their eight picks, including safety Justin Simmons (third-round pick) and running back Devontae Booker (fourth-round pick) on Friday, but beyond their first-year class they remain largely in a holding pattern on contracts until they can, or can’t, hammer out a deal for linebacker Von Miller.

The Broncos have not signed an unrestricted free agent since they added tight end Garrett Graham on April 25 with a low-impact, one-year deal for $840,000, including an $80,000 signing bonus. The Broncos did try to claim fullback Toben Opurum off waivers last week, but then waived him two days later when he did not pass the team’s physical. They had waived tight end Anthony Norris to make room for Opurum, so they do have a roster spot available.

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Denver Native (Carol)
05-16-2016, 04:42 PM
from same article:


On the Miller front, both sides continue to play as nicely as possible in public, even as they still disagree on the guaranteed money that will be included in the blockbuster deal. Miller and the Broncos have consistently expressed the belief a long-term deal will get done before the July 15 deadline for designated franchise players. Both the Broncos and Miller have gone as far as to use "for life" to describe Miller’s future with the team.

Executive vice president of football operations/general manager John Elway has said Miller’s deal "is first" on the team’s to-do list outside of the rookie contracts. The Broncos will need to carve out some cap room to close Miller’s deal, especially after Lynch signs, so an indicator of something imminent will continue to be whether the Broncos release another veteran player or engage a clause in wide receiver Demaryius Thomas' contract.

Thomas has a clause in the contract he signed last July that would turn base salary for the 2016 season into a signing bonus and that could create as much as $9.1 million worth of additional cap space. Elway said following the draft that the team had not engaged that clause and the NFLPA’s cap figures confirm that.

http://espn.go.com/blog/denver-broncos/post/_/id/20354/broncos-have-cap-room-to-finish-rookie-deals-will-still-need-more-for-von-millers

Simple Jaded
05-17-2016, 11:08 PM
I know how they can trim about $3-4 MM in dead punter, er, I mean dead weight.

Dapper Dan
05-17-2016, 11:53 PM
I know how they can trim about $3-4 MM in dead punter, er, I mean dead weight.

How bout I just cut you with a knife?

Joel
05-18-2016, 01:16 AM
I know how they can trim about $3-4 MM in dead punter, er, I mean dead weight.
I know NFL contracts are inflated (though the new CBA was supposed to change that for rookies) but do 7th round picks really make $3M+?

Simple Jaded
05-18-2016, 01:46 AM
I know NFL contracts are inflated (though the new CBA was supposed to change that for rookies) but do 7th round picks really make $3M+?

Cut them both for all I care.

TXBRONC
05-18-2016, 07:19 AM
I know how they can trim about $3-4 MM in dead punter, er, I mean dead weight.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Broncos just go with Dixon and cut Colquitt.

Dapper Dan
05-18-2016, 10:43 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if the Broncos just go with Dixon and cut Colquitt.

You gonna be surprised when you get these hands, fam.

NightTerror218
05-18-2016, 11:35 AM
I know NFL contracts are inflated (though the new CBA was supposed to change that for rookies) but do 7th round picks really make $3M+?

Over 4 years they do.

TXBRONC
05-18-2016, 02:38 PM
You gonna be surprised when you get these hands, fam.

Bro, I'm just saying it's possible. I'm not predicting anything nor am I rooting for it (yet). :D

Joel
05-19-2016, 07:53 PM
Over 4 years they do.
Do 7th round punters get 4 yr contracts? Sincere question: Did they put something in the CBA that guarantees all draft picks a contract of at least 4 yrs?

Either way, I don't think our 2019 cap space is what's holding up re-signing Von. I'd still like to restructure Colquitt so he gets as much or more guaranteed money PLUS a salary of a few million, but over that same 4 years instead of one, so our cap hit's lower, we secure the position and he secures a job, then retires a Bronco.

That's a win for everyone (except Dixon.)

Simple Jaded
05-20-2016, 10:29 PM
Do 7th round punters get 4 yr contracts? Sincere question: Did they put something in the CBA that guarantees all draft picks a contract of at least 4 yrs?

Either way, I don't think our 2019 cap space is what's holding up re-signing Von. I'd still like to restructure Colquitt so he gets as much or more guaranteed money PLUS a salary of a few million, but over that same 4 years instead of one, so our cap hit's lower, we secure the position and he secures a job, then retires a Bronco.

That's a win for everyone (except Dixon.)

Sincere question, (look away Dapper) who give a flying **** if Colquitt retires a Bronco?

And yes, Dixon gets a 4-year deal, all rookie deals are 4-years with 1st round picks getting a Club optional 5th year.

Dapper Dan
05-20-2016, 10:43 PM
Sincere question, (look away Dapper) who give a flying **** if Colquitt retires a Bronco?

And yes, Dixon gets a 4-year deal, all rookie deals are 4-years with 1st round picks getting a Club optional 5th year.
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Al Wilson 4 Mayor
05-21-2016, 01:15 AM
Is Colquitt from Old Rocky Top? Is that why Dan busts out a shiv everytime someone says Colquitt couldn't kick a nerf ball past go?

Dapper Dan
05-21-2016, 01:28 AM
Is Colquitt from Old Rocky Top? Is that why Dan busts out a shiv everytime someone says Colquitt couldn't kick a nerf ball past go?

He's also the longest tenured player on my favorite NFL team. Sometimes I get attached to players when they play for my favorite team for a long time. Ya know, guys that actually put on the Broncos uniform and go to work, rather than sit back and imitate experts.

Oops. I meant... Hells yeah, he is. Have you ever met a Colquitt NOT from Rocky Top? Cmon, bruh.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
05-21-2016, 09:19 AM
Ok bruh, put the shiv away. I just asked a question.

Simple Jaded
05-21-2016, 06:27 PM
I like Tennessee.

Jalen Hurd 2017.

TXBRONC
05-21-2016, 07:23 PM
I like Tennessee.

Jalen Hurd 2017.

Is he a long snapper or kicker or a back up tight end.

Simple Jaded
05-21-2016, 08:22 PM
Is he a long snapper or kicker or a back up tight end.

Yes, they should let him punt too, save a roster spot.

Joel
05-21-2016, 09:02 PM
Sincere question, (look away Dapper) who give a flying **** if Colquitt retires a Bronco?

Pretty much this:


He's also the longest tenured player on my favorite NFL team. Sometimes I get attached to players when they play for my favorite team for a long time. Ya know, guys that actually put on the Broncos uniform and go to work, rather than sit back and imitate experts.

Oops. I meant... Hells yeah, he is. Have you ever met a Colquitt NOT from Rocky Top? Cmon, bruh.

Though I'd also add that Von may be the the ONLY person who owned the 2015 postseason more consistently than Colquitt. It's one thing to argue $4M/yr is far too much to pay for ANY punter, however good, and that we can hardly afford it. But if we take that off the table with a long term extension that dramatically reduces the cap hit this and EVERY year while incidentally securing the position with an elite punter for the foreseeable future: What's the problem?


And yes, Dixon gets a 4-year deal, all rookie deals are 4-years with 1st round picks getting a Club optional 5th year.
Fair enough: I guess a rookie 7th round punter might produce as much in 4 years as Colquitt does in one. But how many bargain basement dynasties have there been?

Dapper Dan
05-21-2016, 10:02 PM
What? I don't remember saying the last one.

Simple Jaded
05-21-2016, 10:06 PM
So, two people, give a flying **** if he retires a Bronco?

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
05-21-2016, 10:18 PM
So, two people, give a flying **** if he retires a Bronco?

That's debatable, unless you're including Britton.

Dapper Dan
05-21-2016, 10:26 PM
One man with courage makes a majority.

TXBRONC
05-21-2016, 10:29 PM
One man with courage makes a majority.


No, I think it makes him delusional.

Simple Jaded
05-21-2016, 10:35 PM
That's debatable, unless you're including Britton.

Punters opinions don't count.

Dapper Dan
05-21-2016, 10:44 PM
Punters opinions don't count.

I'm not a punter!

Dapper Dan
05-21-2016, 10:44 PM
No, I think it makes him delusional.

I hope we give Texas back to Mexico.

TXBRONC
05-22-2016, 03:32 PM
I hope we give Texas back to Mexico.

Not likely, friend.

Dapper Dan
05-22-2016, 05:19 PM
Not likely, friend.

Aren't you guys trying to leave the union again anyway?

Simple Jaded
05-22-2016, 07:01 PM
I'm not a punter!

We counted your vote, yours and Joel.

TXBRONC
05-22-2016, 09:51 PM
Aren't you guys trying to leave the union again anyway?

Danny, stick to the subject.

Dapper Dan
05-22-2016, 09:57 PM
Danny, stick to the subject.

Von Miller? Oh, he's from Texas. Good thing he's in Denver now though. I hope he stays in America.

TXBRONC
05-22-2016, 10:02 PM
Von Miller? Oh, he's from Texas. Good thing he's in Denver now though. I hope he stays in America.


Well, Texas hasn't left the Union yet but if they did Tennessee would follow.

Dapper Dan
05-22-2016, 10:07 PM
Well, Texas hasn't left the Union yet but if they did Tennessee would follow.

Thank God I live in Kentucky.

http://static1.squarespace.com/static/53d2e466e4b076e5e3fb9e08/t/55787cdde4b0a20ad94104ec/1433960493410/I+Hope+To+Have+God+On+My+Side,+But+I+Must+Have+Ken tucky+--+Abraham+Lincoln

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
05-22-2016, 10:41 PM
If Texas and Mexico joined forces Obama would surrender before the ink was dried.

TXBRONC
05-23-2016, 06:48 AM
Thank God I live in Kentucky.

http://static1.squarespace.com/static/53d2e466e4b076e5e3fb9e08/t/55787cdde4b0a20ad94104ec/1433960493410/I+Hope+To+Have+God+On+My+Side,+But+I+Must+Have+Ken tucky+--+Abraham+Lincoln

They would follow right behind Tennessee.

Dapper Dan
05-23-2016, 10:50 AM
They would follow right behind Tennessee.

Never have. Never will. United we stand, divided we fall.

TXBRONC
05-23-2016, 10:51 AM
Never have. Never will. United we stand, divided we fall.

Kentucky has always been a follower never a leader.

Dapper Dan
05-23-2016, 10:55 AM
Kentucky has always been a follower never a leader.

Texas only leads as the worst smelling state. And it takes a lot to beat out New Jersey.

TXBRONC
05-23-2016, 11:30 AM
Texas only leads as the worst smelling state. And it takes a lot to beat out New Jersey.

You've got might big chip on your shoulder.

Dapper Dan
05-23-2016, 12:17 PM
You've got might big chip on your shoulder.

If I had a chip on my shoulder I'd eat it.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
05-23-2016, 02:26 PM
If I had a chip on my shoulder I'd eat it.

Are you still talking about boogers?

Dapper Dan
05-23-2016, 03:11 PM
Are you still talking about boogers?

No, Al. Stay on the subject.

NightTerror218
05-27-2016, 04:42 PM
I wish vin would take a page out of wolfes book. Just twll your agent to get it done. He has said he wants to be here, do a team friendly deal like wolfe.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
05-27-2016, 07:11 PM
Who's vin? :D

Dapper Dan
05-27-2016, 08:03 PM
Who's vin? :D

Vin Moller, u fag

Rick
05-27-2016, 08:25 PM
If Wolf had the chance to be the highest paid defensive player in the NFL he wouldn't have taken the deal he did.

NightTerror218
05-29-2016, 12:08 AM
If Wolf had the chance to be the highest paid defensive player in the NFL he wouldn't have taken the deal he did.

I did say miller take wolfe deal, that is stupid. But what we are hearing us vin wants QB and make then Suh with massive guaranteed

BroncoJoe
05-29-2016, 07:18 AM
I did say miller take wolfe deal, that is stupid. But what we are hearing us vin wants QB and make then Suh with massive guaranteed

One too many last night NT?

Rick
05-30-2016, 08:00 AM
I did say miller take wolfe deal, that is stupid. But what we are hearing us vin wants QB and make then Suh with massive guaranteed

I don't have any idea what you just said there lol

What I was saying is that if a player, such as Von, has a chance to he the highest paid player on their side of the ball, of course they will go for the contact.

If Wolfe had that same opportunity, while it would be a nice fluff piece to say he would still give a discount, I think the reality is not even Wolfe would pass up that chance if it's there.

pnbronco
05-30-2016, 04:39 PM
So how far apart are Von and the Broncos? How much space do we have left?