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Davii
05-12-2016, 07:03 PM
On the first cover that wasn't voted on by fans, EA Sports decided to put Gronkowski on the cover over the Super Bowl MVP.

I think that's ridiculous. I might skip buying it this year for that alone.

Link (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/15520923/new-england-patriots-te-rob-gronkowski-cover-madden-nfl-17)

olathebroncofan
05-12-2016, 07:33 PM
That is great news. The madden curse will hit the Patriots hard this year.

Bet he tears something at training camp.

DenBronx
05-12-2016, 07:50 PM
I saw that last night. This actually kinda pissed me off. Shows nothing but east coast bias. I kinda wanted Manning on there bc he is already injured and retired. Of course they wouldn't put a Bronco on it....of course....they never do. What Terrell Davis on Madden 98? ****

VonDoom
05-12-2016, 08:05 PM
Eh, I can't get too worked up about it. They put random people on all the time, so it's not necessarily a slight on Von.

They should do what magazines like EW do - just make like four different covers and people can order whichever one they want

OrangeHoof
05-12-2016, 08:26 PM
I'm fine with this. Keep those Broncos off the cover.

DenBronx
05-12-2016, 09:40 PM
Alternate Madden covers.

tomjonesrocks
05-12-2016, 10:08 PM
With the others that Gronk is the bigger name and though he's dumb as a jar of bullion cubes, he's a baller. I'm not that offended.

Magnificent Seven
05-12-2016, 10:13 PM
On the first cover that wasn't voted on by fans, EA Sports decided to put Gronkowski on the cover over the Super Bowl MVP.

I think that's ridiculous. I might skip buying it this year for that alone.

Link (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/15520923/new-england-patriots-te-rob-gronkowski-cover-madden-nfl-17)

Bad Luck for Patriots!

Davii
05-12-2016, 10:23 PM
Bad Luck for Patriots!

No such thing. If bad things happen to them it's because they deserve it, good things are because they're cheating. **** them in their well-worn ********.

Pudge
05-12-2016, 11:25 PM
Alternate Madden covers.

I would buy the cover of cam newton crying

NightTerror218
05-12-2016, 11:54 PM
Heard von was not annoption for cover because of failed drug tests

Joel
05-13-2016, 01:02 AM
Heard von was not annoption for cover because of failed drug tests
How many years ago was that? Long enough he's not even in the leagues drug program anymore. Oh, no, he tested positive 4 years ago for something that's already legal in several states and may be legal in as many as 20 more by this time next year; clearly, this guys moral degradation is so extreme he CANNOT be the face of Madden NFL: Let's go with the guy from the team that can't go a single season without getting busted for cheating, then has the gall to fight their punishment and scream that they're persecuted.

At least Von took his punishment like a man, didn't deny guilt and (this is the REALLY important part, especially in terms of character) cleaned up his act. Y'know, instead of giving the whole NFL the finger and continuing to do wtf he pleases whether legal or not.

No SB MVP. No NFL MVP. No, let's take the guy from the AFCCG loser and posterboy for the NFLs core message that crime always pays. Because character.

Dapper Dan
05-13-2016, 01:10 AM
Eh, I can't get too worked up about it. They put random people on all the time, so it's not necessarily a slight on Von.

They should do what magazines like EW do - just make like four different covers and people can order whichever one they want

When I bought NBA 2K16 it had Anthony Davis or someone on the front. You had a chance of getting Davis, Curry, Harden, or someone else I think. But the cool thing was, inside the case they had the inserts of those players, so I was able to take Curry and slide it into the cover in front of Davis.

For years, I've been hoping 2K would take over football and make NCAA and NFL games.

Northman
05-13-2016, 03:52 AM
That is great news. The madden curse will hit the Patriots hard this year.

Bet he tears something at training camp.


Agreed.

Von deserves it but if there ever was any truth to the curse of Madden let Gronk have it.

Ravage!!!
05-13-2016, 09:16 AM
I think they generally pick players at positions on which they are making changes to in the game.

Either way, I don't think it's EVER been that the Super Bowl MVP is on the cover, has it??? :confused:

I haven't bought a new Madden in 10 years, though.

weazel
05-13-2016, 09:41 AM
On the first cover that wasn't voted on by fans, EA Sports decided to put Gronkowski on the cover over the Super Bowl MVP.

I think that's ridiculous. I might skip buying it this year for that alone.

Link (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/15520923/new-england-patriots-te-rob-gronkowski-cover-madden-nfl-17)

they want to appeal to the 20 year old female porn star crowd

artie_dale
05-13-2016, 11:04 AM
I think this is fantastic news. I love Madden and I don't EVER want to see any active Broncos players on that cover. Yes, superstition is stupid... But, it is one of the harmless things I don't mind thinking about because for me, it ONLY applies to sports.

dogfish
05-13-2016, 11:05 AM
Heard von was not annoption for cover because of failed drug tests

funny, they put ray lewis on the cover. . .

Denver Native (Carol)
05-13-2016, 11:47 AM
Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 18h

Forget Madden. The only cover you want is the cover of Sports Illustrated the week after a Super Bowl win.

weazel
05-13-2016, 11:50 AM
Gronk is popular, he's an absolute beast and is head and shoulders above the next best TE... can't really argue with the decision but I would have gone with Peyton Elway

Denver Native (Carol)
05-13-2016, 11:51 AM
It's certainly fair for the Denver Broncos to question why Rob Gronkowski is the cover athlete for Madden NFL 17 and not their own Super Bowl MVP Von Miller.

What the team didn't do however is ask why Miller is getting punked in two official screenshots released by EA Sports. Despite being involved with the company as part of the promotional program for Madden NFL 17, two of the first three images officially released for the upcoming game feature Miller getting shown up by offensive players.

In one, Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver Antonio Brown is dismissing him with a stiff-arm. In the other it's Los Angeles Rams running back Todd Gurley hurdling over his tackle attempt.

rest - http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news/madden-nfl-17-cover-gronkowski-von-miller-patriots-broncos-troll-screenshots/dxuzzl3rlh621fvrbu2nvp690

weazel
05-13-2016, 11:54 AM
rest - http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news/madden-nfl-17-cover-gronkowski-von-miller-patriots-broncos-troll-screenshots/dxuzzl3rlh621fvrbu2nvp690

why would Von be in the open field trying to tackle a receiver? Now I remember why I dont play that game anymore... got tired of the 79-78 scores

Magnificent Seven
05-13-2016, 12:43 PM
Gronk is popular, he's an absolute beast and is head and shoulders above the next best TE... can't really argue with the decision but I would have gone with Peyton Elway

So... Shannon Sharpe is still better than Gronk?

weazel
05-13-2016, 12:56 PM
So... Shannon Sharpe is still better than Gronk?

I'm not sure what you're getting at. Are you saying Shannon Sharpe should be on the cover on Madden... in 2017? Maybe in 1997 but in 2017... I don't think so.

Dapper Dan
05-13-2016, 01:39 PM
I'm not sure what you're getting at. Are you saying Shannon Sharpe should be on the cover on Madden... in 2017? Maybe in 1997 but in 2017... I don't think so.

It's because he's black, isn't it?

weazel
05-13-2016, 04:10 PM
It's because he's black, isn't it?

I'm so transparent

OrangeHoof
05-13-2016, 05:24 PM
With the amount of money Von is expected to make, they can diss his image in a computer game and I'm sure it won't bother him one iota.

artie_dale
05-14-2016, 02:55 PM
why would Von be in the open field trying to tackle a receiver? Now I remember why I dont play that game anymore... got tired of the 79-78 scores

Von took out a certain athletic someone in oh... his last game, in the open field. Von was covering a rcvr and Cam scrambled to the right, got the first down and tried to juke Von, but you can tell Von followed Cam's hips, grasped him and body slammed him out of bounds. That's an open field tackle, isn't it?

Davii
05-14-2016, 06:07 PM
I think Cam should be upset about this as well, he's got more reason to be on the cover than Gronk does. No Super Bowl MVP, no NFL MVP, but a dude that got beat a game before the Super Bowl? That's our guy!

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
05-14-2016, 06:30 PM
Lol, Mack is rated higher than Miller....what?

Davii
05-14-2016, 09:05 PM
Lol, Mack is rated higher than Miller....what?

I hadn't heard that. Wow

FanInAZ
05-14-2016, 10:35 PM
Von took out a certain athletic someone in oh... his last game, in the open field. Von was covering a rcvr and Cam scrambled to the right, got the first down and tried to juke Von, but you can tell Von followed Cam's hips, grasped him and body slammed him out of bounds. That's an open field tackle, isn't it?

Yes, he was tracking down a QB, that's what sack aces do. OLBs may try to cover a TE off the LOS, but they're not going to try to keep up with a WRs.

weazel
05-15-2016, 01:51 AM
Von took out a certain athletic someone in oh... his last game, in the open field. Von was covering a rcvr and Cam scrambled to the right, got the first down and tried to juke Von, but you can tell Von followed Cam's hips, grasped him and body slammed him out of bounds. That's an open field tackle, isn't it?

how is that the same as a LB trying to cover a WR down field?

Joel
05-15-2016, 07:39 AM
Von took out a certain athletic someone in oh... his last game, in the open field. Von was covering a rcvr and Cam scrambled to the right, got the first down and tried to juke Von, but you can tell Von followed Cam's hips, grasped him and body slammed him out of bounds. That's an open field tackle, isn't it?
In that same SB, Von also covered a receiver better at the left front pylon than Pro Bowl CB Talib did at the right front pylon; Von's a Compleat 3-4 OLB, able to rush, stop the run AND cover. What did Gronk do during the SB, other than drink beer and eat chips because SOMEONE beat him two weeks earlier.


Yes, he was tracking down a QB, that's what sack aces do. OLBs may try to cover a TE off the LOS, but they're not going to try to keep up with a WRs.
Except Von did just that in the very same game, and did it well. Not a TE over the middle: A WR down the sideline trying to score—emphasis on "trying."

FanInAZ
05-15-2016, 09:35 AM
Except Von did just that in the very same game, and did it well. Not a TE over the middle: A WR down the sideline trying to score—emphasis on "trying."

Are you talking about the Steelers game in the regular season? Its possible that a OLB could end up on a #3 or 4 receiver, but if he on a pro bowl WR, something went wrong with the D play call.

Joel
05-15-2016, 09:42 PM
Are you talking about the Steelers game in the regular season? Its possible that a OLB could end up on a #3 or 4 receiver, but if he on a pro bowl WR, something went wrong with the D play call.
I never said a #1/2 WR, no; I'm talking about this:


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Cam Newton (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/N/NewtCa00.htm) pass incomplete deep right intended for Jerricho Cotchery (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CotcJe00.htm) (defended by Von Miller (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MillVo00.htm))
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Cam Newton (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/N/NewtCa00.htm) pass incomplete short right intended for Greg Olsen (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/O/OlseGr00.htm)
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Graham Gano (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GanoGr44.htm) 44 yard field goal no good
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That's 1st and G without Von; instead, they took one more shot in front of the sticks, then doinked a FG attempt that gave us the ball at our own 34, whence we drove to just outside their 10 before making our own FG. Von preventing the catch by Cotchery (a WR) was the difference between 16-7 and at LEAST 13-10, possibly 13-14.

That's the kind of obscure but pivotal thing that wins ball games: Instead of pulling ahead by a point at the start of the second half, Camolina didn't get the ball again until midway through the 3rd qtr, down two scores. Granted, the kicker had to do his part with a doink, and the NFL MVP his by outright missing his Pro Bowl TE short of the sticks on 3rd down, but that would've been needless if the SB MVP hadn't prevented 1st and G on the previous play.

FanInAZ
05-15-2016, 10:13 PM
I never said a #1/2 WR, no; I'm talking about this:


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Cam Newton (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/N/NewtCa00.htm) pass incomplete deep right intended for Jerricho Cotchery (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CotcJe00.htm) (defended by Von Miller (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MillVo00.htm))
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Cam Newton (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/N/NewtCa00.htm) pass incomplete short right intended for Greg Olsen (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/O/OlseGr00.htm)
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Graham Gano (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GanoGr44.htm) 44 yard field goal no good
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That's 1st and G without Von; instead, they took one more shot in front of the sticks, then doinked a FG attempt that gave us the ball at our own 34, whence we drove to just outside their 10 before making our own FG. Von preventing the catch by Cotchery (a WR) was the difference between 16-7 and at LEAST 13-10, possibly 13-14.

That's the kind of obscure but pivotal thing that wins ball games: Instead of pulling ahead by a point at the start of the second half, Camolina didn't get the ball again until midway through the 3rd qtr, down two scores. Granted, the kicker had to do his part with a doink, and the NFL MVP his by outright missing his Pro Bowl TE short of the sticks on 3rd down, but that would've been needless if the SB MVP hadn't prevented 1st and G on the previous play.

As I said before, its possible for an OLB to get matched up against a barely used WR at the end of his career. However, this entire sub-topic start when Carol posted an article objecting to a screen shot showing #1/Pro Bowl WR Brown stiff arming Miller. The point that several of us are making is there is no D play that Phillips would draw up that would have Miller covering Brown.

Joel
05-15-2016, 10:31 PM
As I said before, its possible for an OLB to get matched up against a barely used WR at the end of his career. However, this entire sub-topic start when Carol posted an article objecting to a screen shot showing #1/Pro Bowl WR Brown stiff arming Miller. The point that several of us are making is there is no D play that Phillips would draw up that would have Miller covering Brown.
Sure, not disputing that. If ANY LB were on a guy like Brown my first question would be "wtf; did Harris, Roby AND Webster get suspended too?!" The point is Von excels at literally ALL defensive roles, so an All Pro WR is about the only kind he'd have no chance of covering. Plus he's SB MVP, and won the postseason by a fair margin—even (especially) when we beat Gronks team (twice.)

weazel
05-16-2016, 06:02 PM
This is a really stupid arguement

TXBRONC
05-17-2016, 08:34 AM
I think they generally pick players at positions on which they are making changes to in the game.

Either way, I don't think it's EVER been that the Super Bowl MVP is on the cover, has it??? :confused:

I haven't bought a new Madden in 10 years, though.

Was't Ray Lewis the MVP in the Ravens first Super Bowl win because he was on the cover of Madden following their win?

Davii
05-17-2016, 09:02 AM
I think they generally pick players at positions on which they are making changes to in the game.

Either way, I don't think it's EVER been that the Super Bowl MVP is on the cover, has it??? :confused:

I haven't bought a new Madden in 10 years, though.

All previous covers were chosen by a fan vote. This year EA picked the cover athlete without fan input.

BroncoWave
05-17-2016, 09:42 AM
No SB MVP. No NFL MVP. No, let's take the guy from the AFCCG loser and posterboy for the NFLs core message that crime always pays. Because character.

What crime did Gronk commit?

BroncoWave
05-17-2016, 09:44 AM
All previous covers were chosen by a fan vote. This year EA picked the cover athlete without fan input.

They have only been doing the fan vote for like 6 or 7 years. It wasn't something they had always done.

Davii
05-17-2016, 09:47 AM
They have only been doing the fan vote for like 6 or 7 years. It wasn't something they had always done.

And prior to that Madden himself was on the cover...

Davii
05-17-2016, 09:48 AM
What crime did Gronk commit?

Being a Patriot

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
05-17-2016, 09:53 AM
Being a Patriot

Criminal indeed

BroncoWave
05-17-2016, 09:54 AM
And prior to that Madden himself was on the cover...

Nope, Eddie George became the first cover athlete in the 2001 edition and the first year the fans could vote was in 2011 when Hillis won the cover vote.

Davii
05-17-2016, 10:04 AM
Nope, Eddie George became the first cover athlete in the 2001 edition and the first year the fans could vote was in 2011 when Hillis won the cover vote.

Thanks for the history lesson, what's your point? Do you feel Gronk is more deserving of the honor than others? If so, why?

BroncoWave
05-17-2016, 10:10 AM
Thanks for the history lesson, what's your point? Do you feel Gronk is more deserving of the honor than others? If so, why?

No, it just seems like your point was that there was some conspiracy to put a Patriot on the cover by taking away the fan vote, but in reality they had 10 years to put a Pat on the cover before fan votes had they really wanted to.

As for who is most deserving, they put the guy on the cover who they think will sell games, and it would not surprise me if Gronk would sell more games than Von, so from that sense I have no issue with it.

TXBRONC
05-17-2016, 10:25 AM
Nope, Eddie George became the first cover athlete in the 2001 edition and the first year the fans could vote was in 2011 when Hillis won the cover vote.

Yes and prior to that Madden was on the cover.

Davii
05-17-2016, 10:34 AM
No, it just seems like your point was that there was some conspiracy to put a Patriot on the cover by taking away the fan vote, but in reality they had 10 years to put a Pat on the cover before fan votes had they really wanted to.

As for who is most deserving, they put the guy on the cover who they think will sell games, and it would not surprise me if Gronk would sell more games than Von, so from that sense I have no issue with it.

No, my point was that Gronk is on the cover and they dropped the vote. I think there are more deserving players. Period.

TXBRONC
05-17-2016, 10:46 AM
No, it just seems like your point was that there was some conspiracy to put a Patriot on the cover by taking away the fan vote, but in reality they had 10 years to put a Pat on the cover before fan votes had they really wanted to.

As for who is most deserving, they put the guy on the cover who they think will sell games, and it would not surprise me if Gronk would sell more games than Von, so from that sense I have no issue with it.

There is no hard evidence to say that sales increase with whose on the cover. Gronk being on the cover won't sell more games.

Here's an article from April 19, 2011:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/42667766

Ravage!!!
05-17-2016, 11:50 AM
As for who is most deserving, they put the guy on the cover who they think will sell games, and it would not surprise me if Gronk would sell more games than Von, so from that sense I have no issue with it.

Why, 'cause he's white?

BroncoWave
05-17-2016, 01:36 PM
why, 'cause he's white?

lol.