Paxton Lynch

[Ziggy]

John Elway has traded up in the first round to select his quarterback of the future. Let's take a look at our newest Bronco.

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[Poet]

He doesn't crumble in the pocket like Oz. He has the pocket presence of a veteran. The arm of a god.

It is a joyous day.

[Canmore]

He doesn't crumble in the pocket like Oz. He has the pocket presence of a veteran. The arm of a god.

It is a joyous day.

Hope you are right.

[Dapper Dan]

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[Dapper Dan]

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[Dapper Dan]

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[Ziggy]

He's not day 1 ready by any means, but he does have the highest ceiling of any QB in this draft. Hackenberg was my favorite, but I think Lynch has a lower floor. The Broncos actually won out on value in the trade according to the chart and Elway got his man at the same time. The Cowboys and Chiefs were both trying to move up and get him. In the end, Elway wins again.

You'll see him compared to Osweiler because of his size, but they are completely different QB's. Lynch extends plays. He evades pressure but keeps his eyes up rather than looking to just take off. He's as comfortable throwing the ball on the run as he is with his feet set. Per PFF he was the #1 rated QB in college this season on designed rollouts. That fits this offense to a T. He has a cannon for an arm and is far more mobile than his 40 time suggests.

I think Sanchez starts the season as the #1. That's probably the best course for Lynch. He may have gone to the perfect team for his development. A QB guru for a coach, a hall of fame QB as a GM to talk to, a great defense, and a team with a commitment to the run. I don't think we'll know until year 2 or 3 what we really have in this kid, but it should be fun to watch unfold.

[Northman]

I have no problems with this pick. Didnt jump way up in the draft to get him and only gave up this years first and 3rd.

[Davii]

I have no problems with this pick. Didnt jump way up in the draft to get him and only gave up this years first and 3rd.

Agreed. Unless they don't like Lynch I see no way anyone can be upset by this. Player aside, John moved up only a few spots, didn't give up a LOT to do so, and reports say he needed to move if he wanted his guy. Good job John, welcome to Denver Paxton, let's go!

[TXBRONC]

He doesn't crumble in the pocket like Oz. He has the pocket presence of a veteran. The arm of a god.

It is a joyous day.

I like the pick but maybe this just a bit over the top.

[TXBRONC]

I have no problems with this pick. Didnt jump way up in the draft to get him and only gave up this years first and 3rd.

Just the way chatter was going I figured he was gone by about pick 15. When he got all the way to pick 26 and saw that 'trade' was flashed across the screen I sure it was Elway.

[TXBRONC]

Agreed. Unless they don't like Lynch I see no way anyone can be upset by this. Player aside, John moved up only a few spots, didn't give up a LOT to do so, and reports say he needed to move if he wanted his guy. Good job John, welcome to Denver Paxton, let's go!

Elway is so cool that he pisses ice cubes.

[sneakers]

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I like the bird

[VonDoom]

He's not day 1 ready by any means, but he does have the highest ceiling of any QB in this draft. Hackenberg was my favorite, but I think Lynch has a lower floor. The Broncos actually won out on value in the trade according to the chart and Elway got his man at the same time. The Cowboys and Chiefs were both trying to move up and get him. In the end, Elway wins again.

You'll see him compared to Osweiler because of his size, but they are completely different QB's. Lynch extends plays. He evades pressure but keeps his eyes up rather than looking to just take off. He's as comfortable throwing the ball on the run as he is with his feet set. Per PFF he was the #1 rated QB in college this season on designed rollouts. That fits this offense to a T. He has a cannon for an arm and is far more mobile than his 40 time suggests.

I think Sanchez starts the season as the #1. That's probably the best course for Lynch. He may have gone to the perfect team for his development. A QB guru for a coach, a hall of fame QB as a GM to talk to, a great defense, and a team with a commitment to the run. I don't think we'll know until year 2 or 3 what we really have in this kid, but it should be fun to watch unfold.

Great analysis. This is getting me hyped up. I've been down on Lynch so far, but the reality is that I'm a zilch watching film on my computer while Elway and Kubiak are ex-QB's who loved this guy.

In any case, I agree with your last statement - the best possible situation for Lynch is to sit for at least this whole year behind Sanchez. That gives him an entire year to learn the offense and develop under Kubiak's tutelage. So many QB's are ruined by being thrust into action right away, especially on bad teams. This is the complete opposite for Lynch. Barnwell pointed out yesterday that the last team with a winning record to select a QB in the second half of round one was the Packers with Rodgers. I'm not suggesting that Lynch is Rodgers, but it's rare to be in a situation where a good team gets to pick their QBOTF while they're still good.

[VonDoom]

Cowboys owner and General Manager Jerry Jones acknowledged after the first round of the NFL draft that he was disappointed about a player who got away: Quarterback Paxton Lynch.

Jones said that after taking running back Ezekiel Elliott with their first-round pick the Cowboys were trying to trade back into the first round to acquire Lynch, who ultimately went to the Broncos.

“We were working real hard to get up there for the quarterback – Paxton Lynch,” Jones said.

Jones said just when he thought he had a deal in place to get Lynch, the Broncos jumped in and made a deal with the Seahawks that allowed them to take Lynch 26th overall.

“Frankly, give Denver credit,” Jones said. “I thought we had it done. It was that close.”

Jones said the Cowboys’ staff loves Lynch and thinks he has the potential to develop into a franchise quarterback. The Cowboys were hoping he’d develop behind Tony Romo.

“He’s a top prospect – got probably the highest upside in the draft,” Jerry Jones said. “Congratulations to Denver.”

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/04/29/jerry-jones-we-tried-to-make-a-move-for-paxton-lynch/

[TXBRONC]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/04/29/jerry-jones-we-tried-to-make-a-move-for-paxton-lynch/

I suppose Jones could take Dak Prescott in the 6th round.

[Tned]

He's not day 1 ready by any means, but he does have the highest ceiling of any QB in this draft. Hackenberg was my favorite, but I think Lynch has a lower floor. The Broncos actually won out on value in the trade according to the chart and Elway got his man at the same time. The Cowboys and Chiefs were both trying to move up and get him. In the end, Elway wins again.

You'll see him compared to Osweiler because of his size, but they are completely different QB's. Lynch extends plays. He evades pressure but keeps his eyes up rather than looking to just take off. He's as comfortable throwing the ball on the run as he is with his feet set. Per PFF he was the #1 rated QB in college this season on designed rollouts. That fits this offense to a T. He has a cannon for an arm and is far more mobile than his 40 time suggests.

I think Sanchez starts the season as the #1. That's probably the best course for Lynch. He may have gone to the perfect team for his development. A QB guru for a coach, a hall of fame QB as a GM to talk to, a great defense, and a team with a commitment to the run. I don't think we'll know until year 2 or 3 what we really have in this kid, but it should be fun to watch unfold.

Just an FYI, what Broncos gave was pretty much exactly what the chart shows. Broncos 3rd was a few picks earlier than (more valuable) than would that chart shows. So, by the chart, the Broncos paid just a smidge too much.

[BORDERLINE]

It was masterful the way this draft played out. Elway and company are true pros.

[BroncoJoe]

Less than two months removed from being jilted at the aisle by Brock Osweiler, Broncos head honcho John Elway has found his new lanky quarterback of the future.

The Broncos traded up five spots to No. 26 overall Thursday night to take Memphis quarterback Paxton Lynch, giving up the 31st overall pick and a third-rounder to Seattle in order to do so. Elway seemingly couldn't wait to let the world know that the Broncos were no longer interested in Colin Kaepernick.

Mark Sanchez suddenly looks like a real favorite to start in Week 1 for the defending Super Bowl champions, which is a sentence I never expected to write. The Broncos aren't drafting Lynch to start right away. He has a lot to learn at the NFL level and looks like a player that will need to spend his first season on the sidelines.

Lynch's mobility and arm strength make him a perfect fit for coach Gary Kubiak's system. Kubiak's history as a quarterback tutor and the team's talent on both sides of the ball make Denver a perfect fit for Lynch.

The Memphis product looks like one of the biggest winners after a wild Day 1 of the NFL Draft. In the meantime, the Broncos might have to win games with a quarterback that didn't start for a 7-9 Eagles team last year. The Broncos didn't wind up trading for Kaepernick, Sam Bradford or Nick Foles after all. They traded for a rookie. Elway had his eye on a true quarterback of the future to build his franchise around. Again.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000657483/article/winner-and-losers-broncos-nab-lynch-while-tunsil-falls

[TXBRONC]

Hey Colin and 49ers organization,

Paxton Lynch says hi. :wave:

[VonDoom]

Some of those early draft grade reports are coming out. Here's Mike Tanier on Lynch:



This is the best possible situation for Lynch. Gary Kubiak's system is friendly to huge, strong-armed, semimobile guys who can only read one side of the field. Lynch can be that guy. Mark Sanchez is around to handle the chores while Lynch learns some very basic basics. The Denver Broncos defense will provide him some 16-13 victories when he takes the helm. Lynch has a better chance of developing in Denver than he would have had in Cleveland or New York.

As for the Broncos, they put themselves in such a desperate situation that they had to trade up to select an extremely long-range, moderately high-risk project at quarterback. Lynch could be as good as or better than Brock Osweiler in three years. But the Broncos may spend three years wondering why they didn't just pay Osweiler for three years to stay in the thick of the Super Bowl picture.

Grade: C

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2634146-2016-nfl-draft-grades-round-1-report-card/page/27

[Dzone]

Love the way he runs the ball like a running back- A guy 6-7 who can get his shoulders low and run people over-unlike Osweiller who is always upright, clumsy and slow and an easy target to knock out. Plus his throwing motion/release is quick, unlike Oz who takes forever to set up, wind up and release the ball.
Brock who?

[VonDoom]

Andy Benoit:


26. Denver: Paxton Lynch, QB, Memphis

Presumably, the is the first time in NFL history that a team has lost a 6-7 starting quarterback and replaced him with another 6-7 starting quarterback. The belief in the building at Memphis was that Lynch can be a good pro, but it’s vital that he sit and learn for at least a year. Gary Kubiak runs a very traditional zone offense. Lynch’s system at Memphis was nothing like it. No need to worry, Mark Sanchez: You’ll still have every opportunity to prove yourself this season.

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/04/29/nfl-draft-first-round-breakdown

[G_Money]

I dislike developmental QBs in the first round as a general rule. I tend to REALLY dislike them when the team is a Super Bowl team right now and putting the combined first-and-third round talent on the shelf for a year or two doesn't help you with your aspirations to go Bowling again with your peaking roster at all.

I wasn't fond of the Osweiler pick for the same reasons (though I like Lynch more than I liked Oz). I'd rather have drafted somebody like Osemele and helped protect Peyton Manning at the time, y'know? If you want to develop a QB, take a dude on day 2 or 3 and use your high-value picks to help this team, not the 2017 or 2018 team. The locker room doesn't want to see "Trade up for developmental QB" flash across the screen either. They want to win now too, and Sanchez will need all the help he can get in that regard.

Elway is thinking about competing for the next decade though, not just the next year. Replacing a Hall of Fame QB is the key, and most teams can't do it easily. The teams that can tended to get lucky. Aaron Rodgers falling for inane reasons. Steve Young getting to sit behind Montana for a few years and fix his bad habits.

Lynch is best-served if he sits like Rodgers, IMO. The writer who described Lynch as "lanky" above has no clue what the word means. Lynch is built like a brick house. He's not Big Ben sized, but he's around Cam Newton. A mix of those two dudes is basically where he's at. Ben was another guy who fell for dumb reasons (read: Cleveland is stupid). Ben was more ready to start now, but Denver is willing to turn this year into the short Matt-Cassel era of the Patriots (10-6, cusp of the playoffs) in order to try to bridge the After Manning chasm without dying in the ravine like Miami has since Marino (two double-digit win seasons since 2001).

If Lynch is what Elway thinks he is, that is absolutely worth it. I'm viewing it like drafting Big Ben, who was supposed to sit behind Maddox for a chunk of time but was pressed into service earlier than expected and led that team to greatness. I don't think Lynch is ready, but that doesn't eliminate him as the right man for the job of being Denver's QB for the next decade-plus. I said it in other threads, but his arm is tremendous, he's got all kinds of heart and passion, and he fits the "mobile guy with a big gun" mold that Kubes wants. Looking for the sweet spot between Newton running all over the field and Big Ben standing tall in the pocket with dudes draped all over him, maybe Elway found the just-right fit for us.

Welcome to the Broncos, Mr. Lynch. We are the best organization you could have come to, and I certainly hope you are the best thing that could have happened to us. Go study your ass off - with Sanchez as our QB we may need you to be on Big Ben's learning curve, y'know?

[VonDoom]

Here's Peter King on our pick (mostly about Elway being the man):


Elway looked like he was getting painted into a corner. But then, to move up five spots in the round Thursday night, he outbid Dallas for Lynch by paying a third-round pick, the quite palatable 94th overall choice (last five picks at No. 94: Ty Montgomery, Terrance West, Brandon Williams, Jayron Hosley, Kenrick Ellis) and landed his prize.

“Do I have any regrets about this whole thing?” Elway asked from Denver late Thursday night. “No. We’re thrilled to have ended up where we are, with Paxton. If you had said to me, ‘Here are your four options,’ and you named the four we just went through, this is the one we’d take. We think Paxton, long-term, is a perfect fit for our offense.”


“You’re right,” Elway said. “Losing Brock … at the end I thought Houston was probably going to get him no matter what. With Colin, I thought we were really close. That one surprised me a little. And I did talk to Philadelphia about Sam. I just thought they were asking way too much.

“I just think there’s always more than one solution to a problem. It may not be exactly the solution you’d want, but in football, in forming a roster, it’s not about taking the easy way—it’s about taking the right way. All the resources you have go into building your team, and if you use too many resources in one area, you have to account for that in another area. So I am comfortable how we used our resources here.”


I asked Elway: “So you’re comfortable now, with Mark Sanchez starting your opener and maybe starting the whole season?”

“Sure,” he said. “Yeah. I would also say we never say never to anything.”

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/04/28/nfl-draft-denver-broncos-paxton-lynch

[BroncoJoe]

Here's Peter King on our pick (mostly about Elway being the man):

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/04/28/nfl-draft-denver-broncos-paxton-lynch

That was an excellent article - I was going to post it. Here's a couple more paragraphs (should be OK since it's a long read...)


The story is not just that Denver traded up five spots in the round, from 31 to 26 with Seattle, to take Lynch. The story also is what a good job GM John Elway did in managing a minefield situation after the decline and retirement of Peyton Manning, with the mega-expectations that come with trying to repeat as champs.

Consider, first, the financial implications on a franchise trying to keep most of its star players.

Lynch, with his 26th-place slot in the round, will sign a four-year contract worth about $9.1 million.

Brock Osweiler, the one-time heir to Manning, bolted to Houston for four years and $72 million, after starting seven career games in Denver.

His praise of Elway is pretty significant.

[G_Money]

Love the way he runs the ball like a running back- A guy 6-7 who can get his shoulders low and run people over-unlike Osweiller who is always upright, clumsy and slow and an easy target to knock out. Plus his throwing motion/release is quick, unlike Oz who takes forever to set up, wind up and release the ball.
Brock who?

Lynch has better passing skills than Oz. He has the same "first read, second read...what the hell was I doing?" thing that Oz has, but Oz still has it after FOUR YEARS as a pro. Maybe Brock will get past that in Houston with more live game reps - and Lynch is better able to escape and do things on the move than Brock for sure.

Lynch's raw skills are tremendous. Dude throws a pretty deep ball, can hit the seams with velo, has nice touch on some loft balls over the line (unlike, say, Elway who always tried to break the fingers of his receivers just because he could). And he's not afraid of running or contact either, as he enjoys running guys over. He's definitely willing to take contact, and dish it (although he should limit that part as a pro). If Tebow could throw that might be Lynch, so all former fans of Tebow's potential should be thrilled, right? ;)

He's going to need a lot of work on his under-snap stuff, pre-snap reads, footwork (although he's been working on that part already and his pro day was really nice)... he needs work. How MUCH work depends on how fast he learns. I hope he's a quick learner.

[CoachChaz]

Worst case scenario...Lynch is about 63 million cheaper than Oz and he only has 7 games less experience.

[Dapper Dan]

Love the way he runs the ball like a running back- A guy 6-7 who can get his shoulders low and run people over-unlike Osweiller who is always upright, clumsy and slow and an easy target to knock out. Plus his throwing motion/release is quick, unlike Oz who takes forever to set up, wind up and release the ball.
Brock who?

He's a former RB that ran a Wing T in high school. Which is partly why he's a bit raw at QB.

[Ziggy]

Worst case scenario...Lynch is about 63 million cheaper than Oz and he only has 7 games less experience.

63 million that can be used to keep this defense elite.

[TXBRONC]

He's a former RB that ran a Wing T in high school. Which is partly why he's a bit raw at QB.

I wonder if his high school team wore leather helmets and vertically stripped socks as well.

[GEM]

Worst case scenario...Lynch is about 63 million cheaper than Oz and he only has 7 games less experience.

I giggled at this. :lol:

[G_Money]

Worst case scenario...Lynch is about 63 million cheaper than Oz and he only has 7 games less experience.

True story. If we go with the quarterbacks on the team RIGHT NOW though, I expect Siemian to be the backup early in the season simply because he already has a year with Kubes under his belt. That's not a bad thing. Do not rush Paxton into service. The more patient we can be, the better off we should be long-term.

[Rick]

If Kubiak stays true to form of last year where he sat players to give others reps a lot, that should really help Paxton's development as well.

[G_Money]

If Kubiak stays true to form of last year where he sat players to give others reps a lot, that should really help Paxton's development as well.

Sanchez needs as many reps as possible, so he'll get the lion's share there. But rookies aren't as restricted in their practice time and coach contact as non-rookies in the CBA (to allow them time to catch up and adjust to the league) so Lynch can get all the time that Sanchez isn't allowed to have for sure.

[broncofaninfla]

I was hoping for a DE but still happy we got Lynch. I also wouldn't be surprised if we took Hogan later in the draft as well. Regardless I have full trust in Elway and company, they've proven they know what they are doing, more so than any management team Denver has ever had.

[tripp]

All I care about is the fact that Elway and Kubiak got THEIR guy. They weren't forced into getting someone they weren't sold on. They got their guy. That's all I can ask for as a Broncos fan.

[BroncoJoe]

Checking out some of his highlights, pretty impressed. Terrific pocket presence, keeps his eyes down the field, has a rocket for an arm - which appears pretty damn accurate, and isn't afraid to run when things break down. Also showed nice touch on the shorter passes and can throw it 70 yards if needed and rifle it in there when necessary as well.

I'm getting kind of excited.

[slim]

Checking out some of his highlights, pretty impressed. Terrific pocket presence, keeps his eyes down the field, has a rocket for an arm - which appears pretty damn accurate, and isn't afraid to run when things break down. Also showed nice touch on the shorter passes and can throw it 70 yards if needed and rifle it in there when necessary as well.

I'm getting kind of excited.

Let's get the Lynch train on the tracks, Joe.

[G_Money]

Checking out some of his highlights, pretty impressed. Terrific pocket presence, keeps his eyes down the field, has a rocket for an arm - which appears pretty damn accurate, and isn't afraid to run when things break down. Also showed nice touch on the shorter passes and can throw it 70 yards if needed and rifle it in there when necessary as well.

I'm getting kind of excited.

When his accuracy breaks down it tends to be because his footwork gets weird, at least in the limited games I watched of him this year. His tools are all great. Feel free to get excited. ;) Knapp and Kubes are going to get their chance to mold an outstanding raw talent. If he went to the Browns I would predict catastrophic failure for Lynch, but here? Here he's got a real shot.

[CoachChaz]

Checking out some of his highlights, pretty impressed. Terrific pocket presence, keeps his eyes down the field, has a rocket for an arm - which appears pretty damn accurate, and isn't afraid to run when things break down. Also showed nice touch on the shorter passes and can throw it 70 yards if needed and rifle it in there when necessary as well.

I'm getting kind of excited.

If you want to be impressed...find the footage of his pro day

[G_Money]

If you want to be impressed...find the footage of his pro day

Yeah, I posted that somewhere last night. It made me more willing to bite on the guy in my mocks, which as we all know is crucial to a player's success. ;)

In a league that isn't always great at developing raw QBs, hopefully the Broncos can pull off the process of getting Lynch from toolsy beast to successful professional.

[LawDog]

He doesn't crumble in the pocket like Oz. He has the pocket presence of a veteran. The arm of a god.

It is a joyous day.

And he looks like a swashbuckling pirate.

Edit: apologies to Dapper Dan, I posted before reading through thread.

[Ravage!!!]

He's a former RB that ran a Wing T in high school. Which is partly why he's a bit raw at QB.

He played QB in HS, was a RB before HS.... that's what he said at the Gruden Camp.


But I've never seen him take a snap under center. Meaning.. literally...all the tape I've seen of him shows him in shotgun. Has he ever taken snaps under center?

[CoachChaz]

He played QB in HS, was a RB before HS.... that's what he said at the Gruden Camp.


But I've never seen him take a snap under center. Meaning.. literally...all the tape I've seen of him shows him in shotgun. Has he ever taken snaps under center?

Apparently he did his freshman year...but finding video of that should be fun

[G_Money]

Apparently he did his freshman year...but finding video of that should be fun

I'm less concerned about his under-center stuff than I am about progressions, seeing the field, reading defenses, understanding protections... the meat and potatoes of being a pro QB. Some guys just don't see the field well, and Lynch had his moments in that area. His drops on his pro day looked like his footwork is definitely something Denver can work with.

Big Ben still throws off his back foot and does other weird stuff in the pocket, but it doesn't matter as much because he can do all the other stuff a HOF QB needs to do. Ben overcomes his occasional lapses with sheer physical genius - and the football brain on his shoulders works well.

That's more what I'm worried about with Lynch. Hope his football IQ matches his arm strength.

[Ravage!!!]

Apparently he did his freshman year...but finding video of that should be fun

Not only hard to find...but it would be complete irrelevant. Sooooooo...... no real experience taking snaps under center. Honestly, that's bothersome to me.

[CoachChaz]

Not only hard to find...but it would be complete irrelevant. Sooooooo...... no real experience taking snaps under center. Honestly, that's bothersome to me.

I hear that alot, but have yet to really ever see a scenario where it ended up being a deal breaker. They said Mariotta had no experience with it and it didnt stop TEN from taking him #2...nor did it stop him from having a solid rookie season until he got hurt.

[Poet]

I like the pick but maybe this just a bit over the top.

I tend to be a positive and optimistic guy when it comes to QB's being in the right place to develop; I think a lot of it comes down to coaching, really. Plus Lynch does have really good pocket presence, and a damn fine arm. I'm stoked.

[BroncoJoe]

Let's get the Lynch train on the tracks, Joe.

I'm building it right now! It'll be right behind the Sanchez train because he'll need a little time.


If you want to be impressed...find the footage of his pro day

That's what made me look for more highlights. G posted it last night. I didn't think we had a realistic chance to get him, so I didn't really pay much attention before last night.


Yeah, I posted that somewhere last night. It made me more willing to bite on the guy in my mocks, which as we all know is crucial to a player's success. ;)

In a league that isn't always great at developing raw QBs, hopefully the Broncos can pull off the process of getting Lynch from toolsy beast to successful professional.

In Elway/Kubiak/Broncos Organization we trust!

[Hawgdriver]

I predict Paxton will score higher than Von on dancing with the stars.

[BroncoJoe]

PS - here's the highlight I watched this morning. After viewing his pro-day video, this one actually shows him making a lot of those throws during a game, as well as his pocket presence. I was worried he ran too much, but that's not really the case. It even shows a snap under center! :)

Jdm3TayuSUo

[Poet]

I might get his jersey for a graduation present.

[BroncoJoe]

I might get his jersey for a graduation present.

And, no one on the roster has #12!

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

He's more of a quick twitch athlete than Brock.

[Poet]

He's more of a quick twitch athlete than Brock.

He is a pretty athletic dude for being so tall. Brock wasn't made out of stone, but Lynch moves with more athleticism and grace. I really like what I see in terms of pocket presence. I know I keep hammering that point, but it is such a pivotal aspect of elite QB play. He's going to get time to develop on a team that has a lot of talent and leadership.

[CoachChaz]

PS - here's the highlight I watched this morning. After viewing his pro-day video, this one actually shows him making a lot of those throws during a game, as well as his pocket presence. I was worried he ran too much, but that's not really the case. It even shows a snap under center! :)

Jdm3TayuSUo

The announcer even says, "Lynch, with a rare snap from under center". Bad part is it was a rollout, so no dropback to watch after it.

Either way, good highlight clip. The 4th down play was my favorite.

[aberdien]

What was his wonderlic?

[G_Money]

He is a pretty athletic dude for being so tall. Brock wasn't made out of stone, but Lynch moves with more athleticism and grace. I really like what I see in terms of pocket presence. I know I keep hammering that point, but it is such a pivotal aspect of elite QB play. He's going to get time to develop on a team that has a lot of talent and leadership.

For his size he's a great athlete. He ran the same 40 time as pass-rusher Bronson Kaufusi and "athletic dynamo" Nkemdiche. He doesn't run LB speeds, but his feet are quick and he doesn't run in sand. Oz was nimble inside the pocket but was a rumbler as a runner. Lynch is way more quick-twitch athletic than that. He also takes way better advantage of his height with his throwing motion than Brock does. There's NO reason for a 6'7 quarterback to get his passes batted down, but Oz tends to throw down from a dropped-shoulder slot, while Lynch's motion is much more over the top.

People who compared them did so from a size perspective. Lynch is stronger, faster and has the same big arm but with a motion I like better. Paxton's tools are as good as anyone in the draft (or most drafts). It's just the nitty-gritty details he's got to have, just like any other QB. But Lunch should be fine in cold weather with those Elway-sized hands and an arm that can throw through a blizzard.

His question are simply not physical questions. That side's great. Can he be more than Tall (and slower) Kordell Stewart is the question. Everything below the shoulders is great - it's the between-the-ears that will define his career.

[G_Money]

What was his wonderlic?

18.

[BroncoJoe]

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[Poet]

For his size he's a great athlete. He ran the same 40 time as pass-rusher Bronson Kaufusi and "athletic dynamo" Nkemdiche. He doesn't run LB speeds, but his feet are quick and he doesn't run in sand. Oz was nimble inside the pocket but was a rumbler as a runner. Lynch is way more quick-twitch athletic than that. He also takes way better advantage of his height with his throwing motion than Brock does. There's NO reason for a 6'7 quarterback to get his passes batted down, but Oz tends to throw down from a dropped-shoulder slot, while Lynch's motion is much more over the top.

People who compared them did so from a size perspective. Lynch is stronger, faster and has the same big arm but with a motion I like better. Paxton's tools are as good as anyone in the draft (or most drafts). It's just the nitty-gritty details he's got to have, just like any other QB. But Lunch should be fine in cold weather with those Elway-sized hands and an arm that can throw through a blizzard.

His question are simply not physical questions. That side's great. Can he be more than Tall (and slower) Kordell Stewart is the question. Everything below the shoulders is great - it's the between-the-ears that will define his career.

I know this, G, but I'm solely optimistic because of the coaching. I see so many talented guys who work hard in the league -and are not stupid- that tank because of the shit-stalls around them and the coaching they get. For reference, I think it's incredible that Alex Smith turned his career around with a million different coaches and coordinators around him. I don't want to just say "well Elway liked him so we know he's going to be good," but there is something to be said for the fact that a team with many different minds that are well-suited to QB analysis wanted the guy.

I think it's not so much about the mind as it is the ways in which people learn. For instance, I can mentally digest a long and complex paragraph quickly and get the gist of it. But to get it down pat and to have 'mastery' over the page I'll have to reread it several times, and if there are enough complexities I might diagram it. It's a process that takes time. The hope is that we can give Lynch enough time to reread the paragraph and diagram it. He's not stupid either intellectually/football intellect.

I give this acquisition and all it entails a 9/10.

[G_Money]

I know this, G, but I'm solely optimistic because of the coaching. I see so many talented guys who work hard in the league -and are not stupid- that tank because of the shit-stalls around them and the coaching they get. For reference, I think it's incredible that Alex Smith turned his career around with a million different coaches and coordinators around him. I don't want to just say "well Elway liked him so we know he's going to be good," but there is something to be said for the fact that a team with many different minds that are well-suited to QB analysis wanted the guy.

I think it's not so much about the mind as it is the ways in which people learn. For instance, I can mentally digest a long and complex paragraph quickly and get the gist of it. But to get it down pat and to have 'mastery' over the page I'll have to reread it several times, and if there are enough complexities I might diagram it. It's a process that takes time. The hope is that we can give Lynch enough time to reread the paragraph and diagram it. He's not stupid either intellectually/football intellect.

I give this acquisition and all it entails a 9/10.

Agreed. I've said before that Lynch is not a guy I would trust to be the QBOTF for every team in the league. We are one of the teams best-suited to nurture him and give him the best chance to be successful. Two other teams that were looking at him (Dallas and Arizona) would also have been good for him, IMO.

But the fact the WE took him does give me more hope for him than if he went to Cleveland, for instance. He needs the environment we're providing, and we need him to grow faster than Oz did. I think he's better than Oz, and better-than-Oz would take us to the playoffs a lot of times now that John can keep most of the key defensive talent together.

Should be fun. ;)

[Joel]

I have no problems with this pick. Didnt jump way up in the draft to get him and only gave up this years first and 3rd.
Those are good points, but easily overlooked. We know where we'll be the next couple years, and have a realistic chance of that being a team led by a young franchise QB who'll be here 15 years if he stays healthy—but if he crashes and burns we'll still have 1st round picks in future drafts to replace him.

[TXBRONC]

PS - here's the highlight I watched this morning. After viewing his pro-day video, this one actually shows him making a lot of those throws during a game, as well as his pocket presence. I was worried he ran too much, but that's not really the case. It even shows a snap under center! :)

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Nice.

[Ravage!!!]

I hear that alot, but have yet to really ever see a scenario where it ended up being a deal breaker. They said Mariotta had no experience with it and it didnt stop TEN from taking him #2...nor did it stop him from having a solid rookie season until he got hurt.

Depends on the offensive system they are drafted to. Reading the defense from the Shotgun and from under center is different. Kubiak's sytem has QB under center for a lot of reasons... mainly the play action. We saw how the offense struggled with Manning's shotgun most of the year, as running from the shotgun isn't a fantastic situation. Was Mariotta asked and/or expected to take snaps from under center in Tennessee? I don't know.

So the concern is there, as it's either teaching him to read and step from taking snaps from under butt, or running Kub's system from shotgun. Neither is impossible to do, but there really is a big difference from the two. The footwork is different for sure. I'm a bit surprised that Gruden didn't talk about it, or have him take snaps from center. But then, I think that's just turned to promotional vids.

[Tned]

Checking out some of his highlights, pretty impressed. Terrific pocket presence, keeps his eyes down the field, has a rocket for an arm - which appears pretty damn accurate, and isn't afraid to run when things break down. Also showed nice touch on the shorter passes and can throw it 70 yards if needed and rifle it in there when necessary as well.

I'm getting kind of excited.

Yea, that was my impression as well, which isn't consistent with the scouting reports I read. So, maybe the "bad" throws aren't included in the highlight reels, but he has plenty of positives based on the videos I've seen.

[TXBRONC]

Some of those early draft grade reports are coming out. Here's Mike Tanier on Lynch:



http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2634146-2016-nfl-draft-grades-round-1-report-card/page/27

Bleacher report writers can go pound sand for the most part.

[VonDoom]

Bleacher report writers can go pound sand for the most part.

Tanier is better than most of them, IMO. He used to write for Sports on Earth (and probably somewhere before that) before they "restructured" or whatever, and he ended up at BR. I avoid every other article out of there, normally.

[VonDoom]

I just watched the Gruden QB Camp video (thanks to Ziggy for linking it). Interesting stuff, as I hadn't seen it before. Lynch says he models his game after Cam Newton, which I can see given his size. We can only hope that comparison ends up being remotely true.

[tomjonesrocks]

<img src="http://www.broncosforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8915"/>

Peyton Manning wasn't particularly high either if I recall.

An under 20 score is still considered worrisome though.

[GEM]

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It will be nice to have the ability to include the long ball back into the offense after the last couple of seasons.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 13h

Cowboys offered Seahawks 2nd- and 3rd-round picks for their 1st to trade up for Paxton Lynch, per @toddarcher. Broncos' offer trumped it.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

It is hard to tell whether the Wonderlic actually reflects how well a player might do in the NFL. The best example of that is Johnny Manziel, who scored a 32 on the Wonderlic but has made a series of poor off-field choices which put his NFL career in jeopard

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/the-top-qb-in-the-nfl-draft-beat-peyton-manning-on-the-wonderlic-030216

[Poet]

I might get his jersey for a graduation present.

This is happening.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Don't know if this has been posted already, but worth watching again, not only Paxton's emotional reaction, but also for the great ovation Daniel received before announcing the Broncos' pick

http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Paxton-Lynchs-emotional-reaction-after-selection/802eedb7-c47f-42e7-869c-09bc3a84bc88

[GEM]

Ever try the Wonderlic online test? I do good on the questions, it's the timing that kicks my ass. I took the 50 question test, could get through about 45 questions before time ran out.

[Poet]

Ever try the Wonderlic online test? I do good on the questions, it's the timing that kicks my ass. I took the 50 question test, could get through about 45 questions before time ran out.

It's the same thing as the LSAT. These tests only matter to a very moderate extent.

[GEM]

It's the same thing as the LSAT. These tests only matter to a very moderate extent.

I just don't do good under timed pressure. :laugh: I find that I look at the clock a lot. Weird.

[Poet]

I just don't do good under timed pressure. :laugh: I find that I look at the clock a lot. Weird.

As someone who is practicing for the LSAT, I feel you.

[GEM]

As someone who is practicing for the LSAT, I feel you.

Good luck, my friend!

[Poet]

Good luck, my friend!

Well if my score is shoddy maybe Elway will draft me out of pity.

#backupplan #buymyjersey

[Valar Morghulis]

Well if my score is shoddy maybe Elway will draft me out of pity. #backupplan #buymyjersey

Only if you went to college with his son

[Poet]

Only if you went to college with his son

#styledon
#imdead
#callmymomma
#ripme
#stylegodsbleed
#ettuval

[TXBRONC]

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I'm glad you did this. I think this highlights that way to much can be made of wonderlic.

[TXBRONC]

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/the-top-qb-in-the-nfl-draft-beat-peyton-manning-on-the-wonderlic-030216

Joe listed former quarterbacks whose Wonderlics were lower than Lynch's. Three of them were Hall of Famers.

[DenBronx]

Wonderlic only means something if it's below 10. 18 is ok.

[Timmy!]

I was very surprised he made it past Buffalo and the Jets. I was worried the Broncos would have to move up 10+ spots costing a ton. Well played Elway, and we still have 8 picks.

[G_Money]

I was very surprised he made it past Buffalo and the Jets. I was worried the Broncos would have to move up 10+ spots costing a ton. Well played Elway, and we still have 8 picks.

I've been back and forth about Lynch, but once it was announced we were moving up my first thought was, "Please be Lynch and not Cook or Hackenberg." So apparently I was fine with Lynch, I was just trying to avoid a first round project.

Now that we're investing in it, though, I'm all in.

Just need our next few picks to be good structural pieces for this team that can shore up our non-QB weaknesses.

[CoachChaz]

I was very surprised he made it past Buffalo and the Jets. I was worried the Broncos would have to move up 10+ spots costing a ton. Well played Elway, and we still have 8 picks.

Jets didnt surprise me. Spent a 3rd rounder on a developmental QB last year. They'd look foolish to give up on that already and get another developmental QB.

[Northman]

Don't know if this has been posted already, but worth watching again, not only Paxton's emotional reaction, but also for the great ovation Daniel received before announcing the Broncos' pick

http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Paxton-Lynchs-emotional-reaction-after-selection/802eedb7-c47f-42e7-869c-09bc3a84bc88

That is a great moment from Daniel on down to Lynch's reaction. Loved it. THanks for that Carol as i didnt get to watch any of the draft last night.

[G_Money]

Jets didnt surprise me. Spent a 3rd rounder on a developmental QB last year. They'd look foolish to give up on that already and get another developmental QB.

If the Jets have just NOW become afraid of looking foolish they'd be about a decade too late coming to that realization.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

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It doesn't really comfort me to know it's been over two decades since a quarterback with a Wonderlic score that low was successful.

[Poet]

It doesn't really comfort me to know it's been over two decades since a quarterback with a Wonderlic score that low was successful.

When do you think McNabb played?

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

When do you think McNabb played?

I'm referring to when he was drafted. I guess I should have said it's been 20 years since a qb with a score that low was drafted and had a success.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 3m

Lynch's coach Fuente predicted his QB will make the transition quickly in the pros. "In middle of when fur is flying, he's level-headed."

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 4m

Lynch's college coach Fuente: "Even before he played the position well he had inner confidence. He put the work in and wanted it." #Broncos

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 50s

Fuente, on Lynch: "It was never a situation where you used a hot poker and stick him ... you told him to do something, & he'd do it."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 3m

Fuente: Lynch has "proven out to be" a smart QB ... "he's a highly intelligent young man."

[LTC Pain]

Wanna know how I feel about the Broncos drafting Lynch :salute:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=weissmuller+tarzan+yell&view=detail&mid=A97A4805410AFF5B725EA97A4805410AFF5B725E&FORM=VIRE

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Lynch: 'I ended up in the best possible situation'
Paxton Lynch reacts to being selected with the No. 26 overall pick by the Denver Broncos.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Lynch-I-ended-up-in-the-best-possible-situation/299b3971-fe72-4305-a669-0460362d25d8

[VonDoom]

https://twitter.com/Broncos/status/726166137130479616

[Joel]

I'm referring to when he was drafted. I guess I should have said it's been 20 years since a qb with a score that low was drafted and had a success.
To be fair, that does make a slight difference, because very few rookie QBs are NFL ready on Opening Day.

The thing is though, even if Lynch is NEVER ready, we didn't give up all that much for a potential franchise QB, so retained the flexibility to pursue another soon if necessary. That is, Elway has no reason to admit "There is no Plan B" as he did when signing Manning; if Lynch bombs, there's always next year. Yes, a protracted search would make it hard to keep a championship D and offensive supporting cast together, but that'd be no less true with or without Lynch.

At least now we have a punchers CHANCE that Lynch becomes "THE guy" while we still have a championship roster, and didn't blow up our cap and/or burn multiple 1st rounders to do it. That preserves the resources to re-sign key studs like Von and Sanders, replace all we can't/won't re-sign and still seek a starting QB if needed.

[Poet]

I'm referring to when he was drafted. I guess I should have said it's been 20 years since a qb with a score that low was drafted and had a success.

McNabb wasn't a success?

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

McNabb wasn't a success?

He was very much a success. I'm saying it's been about 2 decades since he was drafted. Now, before you correct my math, I didn't actually go check the year he was drafted when I made the statement. I just made another off the cuff statement. :D

[Poet]

He was very much a success. I'm saying it's been about 2 decades since he was drafted. Now, before you correct my math, I didn't actually go check the year he was drafted when I made the statement. I just made another off the cuff statement. :D

The way I look at it is that it's more important when he retired. I wasn't trying to be a jerk. Hold me.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

The way I look at it is that it's more important when he retired. I wasn't trying to be a jerk. Hold me.

I didnt think you were being a jerk. My embrace is moments away.

[TXBRONC]

I was very surprised he made it past Buffalo and the Jets. I was worried the Broncos would have to move up 10+ spots costing a ton. Well played Elway, and we still have 8 picks.

Either Elway was confident that the Bills and the Jets were not interested in Lynch or he didn't feel that trading up any sooner than that was worth it. I suppose it could be some combination of the two.

[tubby]

I heart 12. Seems like a good kid. Welcome to Denver! :salute:

[G_Money]

Jets didnt surprise me. Spent a 3rd rounder on a developmental QB last year. They'd look foolish to give up on that already and get another developmental QB.

Like I said: Jets absolutely took a developmental QB, because they're the Jets and embarrassing themselves is something they're good at. Who knows, maybe they got the right one. But at this moment I'm thrilled they passed on Lynch and took Hack in the 2nd.

[Timmy!]

Jets didnt surprise me. Spent a 3rd rounder on a developmental QB last year. They'd look foolish to give up on that already and get another developmental QB.

Annnnnnnnnd Hackenburg. Lol.

[Simple Jaded]

Elway is so cool that he pisses ice cubes.

He's as cool as a convertible...with a snowplow.

[TXBRONC]

He's as cool as a convertible...with a snowplow.

I'm not so sure about that being cool buddy.

[Northman]

Like I said: Jets absolutely took a developmental QB, because they're the Jets and embarrassing themselves is something they're good at. Who knows, maybe they got the right one. But at this moment I'm thrilled they passed on Lynch and took Hack in the 2nd.

Yea personally, i would take Lynch over Hackenberg which im glad we did.

[Valar Morghulis]

Yea personally, i would take Lynch over Hackenberg which im glad we did. I would have preferred hackenberg or cook to lynch I would have liked nkendemche (spelling) in the first Cook or hack in the second Or went crazy and traded out of round one for myles jack, still picked up hack or cook and the second with our extra pick and maybe even took the players we did in two and three.

[Dzone]

I would have preferred hackenberg or cook to lynch I would have liked nkendemche (spelling) in the first Cook or hack in the second Or went crazy and traded out of round one for myles jack, still picked up hack or cook and the second with our extra pick and maybe even took the players we did in two and three.

Yes, but I heard on the radio that Cook is an *******. The worst thing I have heard said about Paxton Lynch is that he is a little bit Gomer Pyle. lol
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[TXBRONC]

Besides, it seems rather ominious to have someone one on the roster whose name has back in it. It could have turned out to be like having a guy named Putz on the team.

[TXBRONC]

Yes, but I heard on the radio that Cook is an *******. The worst thing I have heard said about Paxton Lynch is that he is a little bit Gomer Pyle. lol
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Well as long as he's not compared to Gomer's cousin Goober. :shocked:

[BroncoJoe]

Pretty cool behind the scenes of Paxton arriving at Dove Valley. Meeting a few season ticket holders, getting fitted with his helmet, then meeting Kubiak.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Paxton-Lynchs-arrival-at-UCHTC-as-a-Bronco/10bdee28-6d68-42c6-8324-1aa80e2ea22b

[Nomad]

I heart 12. Seems like a good kid. Welcome to Denver! :salute:

Same here. Welcome to the BRONCOS, Paxton Lynch!

[Denver Native (Carol)]

IRVING, Texas -- Dallas Cowboys owner and general manager Jerry Jones did not get much sleep after the first round of the draft.

He couldn’t get Paxton Lynch out of his head.

The Cowboys attempted to trade back into the first round to select Lynch, working through a number of trades only to see their final attempt with Seattle fall through when the Seahawks agreed to a deal with the Denver Broncos.

“I got to bed about 3 thinking about the Lynch thing, got up at 6 and before the morning was over had talked to six people about how I messed it up,” Jones said Saturday. “I was still mad about it the next morning.”

rest - http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4750850/jerry-jones-lost-sleep-over-missing-out-on-paxton-lynch

[TXBRONC]

rest - http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4750850/jerry-jones-lost-sleep-over-missing-out-on-paxton-lynch

He got Dak Prescott.

[Dzone]

rest - http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4750850/jerry-jones-lost-sleep-over-missing-out-on-paxton-lynch

haha I love it!
Cowboys had paxton at Valley Ranch and a private workout in Orlando. This shows just how impressed they were with Lynch. Now he goes to the real Americas team.

[BroncoWave]

Man, Dak Prescott must love hearing all these comments about how sick jerry is about losing out on Lynch.

[TXBRONC]

Man, Dak Prescott must love hearing all these comments about how sick jerry is about losing out on Lynch.

He'll get over it.

[Northman]

Man, Dak Prescott must love hearing all these comments about how sick jerry is about losing out on Lynch.


He'll get over it.

Yea, he will get over it. With Romo getting hurt every other game lately and with no real backup plan Dak will have a legitimate shot (unless he fails to impress in practice) to get out there and see what he can do. But, im pretty glad we passed on him and took Lynch.

[Poet]

Man, Dak Prescott must love hearing all these comments about how sick jerry is about losing out on Lynch.

He will always live in Lynch's shadow.

[chazoe60]

Man, Dak Prescott must love hearing all these comments about how sick jerry is about losing out on Lynch.

Nobody cares about the feelings of a guy who will always be a backup.

[Poet]

Nobody cares about the feelings of a guy who will always be a backup.

That's what they said about Tony Romo, though. I am not a Dak believer, fwiw.

[Valar Morghulis]

That's what they said about Tony Romo, though.

Good shout!

[TXBRONC]

Yea, he will get over it. With Romo getting hurt every other game lately and with no real backup plan Dak will have a legitimate shot (unless he fails to impress in practice) to get out there and see what he can do. But, im pretty glad we passed on him and took Lynch.

Me too. Lynch was the 3rd best quarterback prospect in the 2016 draft.

[Hawgdriver]

Peyton Manning wasn't particularly high either if I recall.

An under 20 score is still considered worrisome though.

We'll just have to make sure the NFL doesn't change the touchdown pass to a Sudoku puzzle.

[TXBRONC]

We'll just have to make sure the NFL doesn't change the touchdown pass to a Sudoku puzzle.

If Lynch was in single digits I would be worried.

[DenBronx]

Would love a thread for everyone to post their own personal wonderlic score here for us all to dissect. Take it once, timed and under pressure. Thennnnn talk.

[tomjonesrocks]

Would love a thread for everyone to post their own personal wonderlic score here for us all to dissect. Take it once, timed and under pressure. Thennnnn talk.

My wonderlic score is terrific. Everyone says so. You know, I was just talking to Eldon Wonderlic, who happened to create the Wonderlic test and who is a good friend of mine, he has said many times my score is fantastic.

[Hawgdriver]

Would love a thread for everyone to post their own personal wonderlic score here for us all to dissect. Take it once, timed and under pressure. Thennnnn talk.

I'm more in favor of the wonder****, but I can see the benefits of the wonderlic. :naughty: I don't know where this is going. VK, I need the escape code hashtags plz.

[Simple Jaded]

I studied the Wonderlic under Colonel Lingus himself.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Picking up Paxton: Lynch arrives in Denver

Broncos TV was at the airport when first-round pick Paxton Lynch arrived in Denver to talk about his journey to becoming the Broncos newest QB.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Picking-up-Paxton-Lynch-arrives-in-Denver/570948bc-7eda-4dd2-b50d-53cfdffd455c

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Paxton Lynch hasn’t taken a snap with the Broncos yet, but the rookie quarterback will get his first Sports Illustrated cover.

Lynch will be on the cover of the May 9, 2016 edition. His is one of three variant covers. The other two feature fellow first-round quarterbacks Jared Goff of the Los Angeles Rams and Carson Wentz of the Philadelphia Eagles.

Lynch is the first Broncos rookie quarterback featured since John Elway graced the Aug. 15, 1983 cover, weeks before his regular-season debut with the Broncos.

rest - http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2016/05/03/the-successor-paxton-lynch-on-cover-of-sports-illustrated/39462/

[BroncoJoe]

I really hope he shaves that crap off his face. It's embarrassing.

[G_Money]

I really hope he shaves that crap off his face. It's embarrassing.

Is he even top-3 in Most Embarrassing Denver QB Facial Hair?

There's that thing with birds and shit in it that Plummer used to roll in with (and still has) and that Orton Neckbeard of Solitude for sure that are worse.

If Paxton Lynch wants to look like an animated villain, that's better than it could be.
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/a/ac/Jenner.jpg

Just do your job, Lynch, and you can look as silly as you want.

[BroncoJoe]

Well, I couldn't care less if he looked like The Hunchback of Notre Dame if he plays well.

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But, his facial hair isn't helping at this point. Even his teammates and coaches suggested he shave that shit.

[VonDoom]

Well, I couldn't care less if he looked like The Hunchback of Notre Dame if he plays well.

8941

But, his facial hair isn't helping at this point. Even his teammates and coaches suggested he shave that shit.

Rookie haircut day should take care of that

[DenBronx]

Leave Paxtons villain stash ALONE DAMMIT!!!

[DenBronx]

Would love a thread for everyone to post their own personal wonderlic score here for us all to dissect. Take it once, timed and under pressure. Thennnnn talk.

My wonderlic score is terrific. Everyone says so. You know, I was just talking to Eldon Wonderlic, who happened to create the Wonderlic test and who is a good friend of mine, he has said many times my score is fantastic.


I highy doubt that. Lol

[Timmy!]

Viva la villain stache!

[BroncoBuckeye73]

He looks like he is a long lost Backstreet Boy, I am sure he will help attract more female fans

[Zweems56]

I really hope he shaves that crap off his face. It's embarrassing.

Meh. Worse than Orton? I'd prefer the swashbuckler look over the neckbeard anyday.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Meh. Worse than Orton? I'd prefer the swashbuckler look over the neckbeard anyday.

Neckbeard had a decent look. The mouthbreather was the most uncomely.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

In addition to being a really good quarterback and now a first-round pick, Denver Broncos rookie Paxton Lynch is hilarious. For those familiar with the former Memphis star, that was already obvious.

To show his funny side, Lynch created a weird, random obstacle course spoof in which he shows off his hurdling, dabbing and frisbee abilities -- all of which are off the charts.

Not many people can dab eight times in a row as gracefully as Lynch did after pretending to roll a strike. If he has any sort of success on the field, he's going to be a massive hit among Broncos fans.

rest - plus videos - http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/denver-broncos-nfl-draft-paxton-lynch-obstacle-course-dab-rating-spoof-050416

[LawDog]

rest - plus videos - http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/denver-broncos-nfl-draft-paxton-lynch-obstacle-course-dab-rating-spoof-050416

Not many words. Nope, no words at all actually.

[Cugel]

Either Elway was confident that the Bills and the Jets were not interested in Lynch or he didn't feel that trading up any sooner than that was worth it. I suppose it could be some combination of the two.

The Bills have Tyrod Taylor. Why the hell would they want to waste a 1st round pick on Paxton Lynch?

The Jets could have been interested in Lynch, but they preferred (reasonably) to Ohio State LB Darron Lee with their first pick and wait till the 2nd round to get Christian Hackenberg. Nothing wrong with those moves.

As for the Broncos not trading up any higher, what makes anybody think they could? Not every team wants to trade their pick. Lots of teams have their sights on a player and are afraid that their guy would be gone when #31 comes around, so they don't want to trade back.

[Poet]

Tyrod Taylor wants to be paid like a big time QB and he's anything but. A rookie QB falls in line with what Buffalo wants to do in the sense that they're cheap and allow for the team to continue to pour money into the defense. Furthermore, the Bills have EJ Manuel as their current backup; he wasn't good enough to warrant the use of the fifth year option... If the Bills didn't consider taking Lynch then that franchise is as mediocre (at best) as they look.

[Zweems56]

Tyrod Taylor wants to be paid like a big time QB and he's anything but. A rookie QB falls in line with what Buffalo wants to do in the sense that they're cheap and allow for the team to continue to pour money into the defense. Furthermore, the Bills have EJ Manuel as their current backup; he wasn't good enough to warrant the use of the fifth year option... If the Bills didn't consider taking Lynch then that franchise is as mediocre (at best) as they look.

I won't argue the second point, but my response to this is a big old "PFFFTTT." If Oz was worth 72m, Tyrod is worth at least that. Oz played well and I was very happy for his performance last year, but Tyrod is worth AT LEAST that on the open market based on last year. The thing about QBs is, if you're serviceable at least and have potential for growth, you're ALWAYS going to get paid on the open market. That includes Tyrod, so you saying that he's anything but a big time QB is really irrelevant in the market as it currently stands. Small time QBs get paid like big time QBs every year right now.

[Poet]

I won't argue the second point, but my response to this is a big old "PFFFTTT." If Oz was worth 72m, Tyrod is worth at least that. Oz played well and I was very happy for his performance last year, but Tyrod is worth AT LEAST that on the open market based on last year. The thing about QBs is, if you're serviceable at least and have potential for growth, you're ALWAYS going to get paid on the open market. That includes Tyrod, so you saying that he's anything but a big time QB is really irrelevant in the market as it currently stands. Small time QBs get paid like big time QBs every year right now.

Let Tyrod Taylor hit the market and watch how he doesn't hit Oz's contract. As it stands right now, there is literally one running QB with a big long term deal. One. Teams don't dole out long term contracts to running QB's. Kaepernick was signed to a long string of one year deals. What's RG3 playing on? Furthermore, what the market will give a guy is irrelevant if that guy isn't worth it.

So I kindly return your PFFFFFFT back to you.

[Cugel]

Tyrod Taylor wants to be paid like a big time QB and he's anything but. A rookie QB falls in line with what Buffalo wants to do in the sense that they're cheap and allow for the team to continue to pour money into the defense. Furthermore, the Bills have EJ Manuel as their current backup; he wasn't good enough to warrant the use of the fifth year option... If the Bills didn't consider taking Lynch then that franchise is as mediocre (at best) as they look.

It doesn't matter a gnats' fart what Tyrod Taylor WANTS to get paid. I "want" a hot date with Jessica Alba, but I'm not getting it, and Taylor isn't getting starting QB money this season either because he's under contract for $3M.

He's under contract for 2017 too, for $1.3 M on a voidable option, and if the Bills don't get a deal done in time, they could always franchise Taylor in 2018 - which would cost them around $20M.

They will probably re-do his deal NEXT season IF he proves THIS season that he wasn't a 1 hit wonder and has another good season.

As for EJ Manuel, he's got "BUST" written all over him in great huge letters - which is why he's backing up a former 6th round backup QB.

No, the Bills are going to do what's sensible. Keep Taylor and make him play out his contract this year and next year he can back up a rookie QB they draft -- if he doesn't work out.

All this is perfectly reasonable. He won't get out of Buffalo until at least 2018 because he's under contract for peanuts and the Bills have ZERO incentive to re-sign him for more money until next year - if ever.

[TXBRONC]

The Bills have Tyrod Taylor. Why the hell would they want to waste a 1st round pick on Paxton Lynch?

The Jets could have been interested in Lynch, but they preferred (reasonably) to Ohio State LB Darron Lee with their first pick and wait till the 2nd round to get Christian Hackenberg. Nothing wrong with those moves.

As for the Broncos not trading up any higher, what makes anybody think they could? Not every team wants to trade their pick. Lots of teams have their sights on a player and are afraid that their guy would be gone when #31 comes around, so they don't want to trade back.

Since I wasn't in their war room I don't know but it was speculated that they might have been interested. If they had then it is reasonable to assume that they thought Lynch had a higher ceiling than Taylor. As for Jets it would have been very reasonable for them to take Lynch give their quarterback situation.

[Cugel]

Since I wasn't in their war room I don't know but it was speculated that they might have been interested. If they had then it is reasonable to assume that they thought Lynch had a higher ceiling than Taylor. As for Jets it would have been very reasonable for them to take Lynch give their quarterback situation.

The word prior to the draft (true as it turns out) was that the Jets didn't like Lynch that much and that they didn't want to spend their 1st round pick on a Qb. They got one in the 2nd round and used their 1st round pick on a very good LB prospect. Win-win for them (they believe).

And since we don't know how these prospects turn out, they could very well be right "In five years, Darron Lee has a chance to be one of the best linebackers in the NFL. This is really good value. Hackenberg is an enigma, but an okay second-round pick."

They have to keep Fitzpatrick for 1 more year and let Hackenberg develop, then they hope to have a solid QB AND a star LB. If it works out they hit the jackpot.

If Lynch turns out to be the star and Hackenberg flops then it was a mistake. But we don't know that yet at this point.

[Cugel]

As for the Bills and Lynch - no way Jose!


With the No. 19 overall pick in the first round of the 2016 NFL Draft, the Buffalo Bills have selected Shaq Lawson, a defensive end from Clemson.

It’s no secret that the Bills needed to bolster a pass rush that not only was a massive letdown in 2015, but was arguably the league’s worst in that phase. It’s also no secret that Bills head coach Rex Ryan has close ties to the Clemson program. Which is why Lawson has, for months, been mentioned as a Round 1 possibility for Buffalo. Now, that possibility has come to pass, and Lawson will be asked to contribute heavily to the turnaround of what recently was one of the team’s strong suits.

There was some thought this week that Lawson wouldn’t even be around when the Bills picked in Round 1, owing to the value placed upon his position, and the high-quality nature of his CV. Lawson is a 6’3", 269-pound defensive end with excellent athletic traits for a player his size (4.7 seconds in the 40-yard dash with a 1.63-second 10-yard split, as well as a 33-inch vertical jump and a 10-foot broad jump). He’s also versatile, with enough length and quicks to slide inside over the guard on obvious passing downs, and enough short-area quicks to acquit himself well in coverage when asked to handle short drops.

Most importantly, Lawson is coming off of a fantastic 2015 season, his first as a full-time starter, in which he recorded 35 solo tackles, 24.5 tackles for loss, and 12.5 sacks. Ryan and the Bills will count on his ability to slide into the spot vacated by the since-released Mario Williams and continue to produce for a defense that desperately needs a boost in the pass-rushing department. Lawson is a great marriage of value and need, but he will be under a lot of pressure to perform as a 22-year-old rookie this fall.

They already have a QB who played exceptionally well in 2015 and they have him for peanuts the next 2 years. They can always draft a QB next season if they feel the need, and for now they have EJ Manuel for "break glass in case of emergency QB".

They get a ferocious pass-rusher that Rex Ryan highly coveted and their QB situation is better than it would be with a rookie. Ryan would have had a melt down if Lawson was still on the board and their GM had taken a QB!

[Joel]

rest - plus videos - http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/denver-broncos-nfl-draft-paxton-lynch-obstacle-course-dab-rating-spoof-050416
I wish he'd done as well at getting that frisbee through the tire as he did dabbing; outside Camolina, the first one's a FAR more relevant pro QB skill.

[Northman]

I won't argue the second point, but my response to this is a big old "PFFFTTT." If Oz was worth 72m, Tyrod is worth at least that. Oz played well and I was very happy for his performance last year, but Tyrod is worth AT LEAST that on the open market based on last year. The thing about QBs is, if you're serviceable at least and have potential for growth, you're ALWAYS going to get paid on the open market. That includes Tyrod, so you saying that he's anything but a big time QB is really irrelevant in the market as it currently stands. Small time QBs get paid like big time QBs every year right now.

Despite their amount of limited playing time as starters neither one is worth 72 mil even if teams are crazy enough to pay them.

[Simple Jaded]

I am over the moon that Denver didn't waste a round 1st pick, a player and $72 MM on a short zone-read QB with backup NFL skills.

The Bills haven't been the least bit willing to give him an extension but want a 1st and a player in trade, that tells me they know what he's going to ask for, what he's "worth" on the market and would rather take what he's "worth" in trade.

Kubiak may end being right about Taylor, Pffffffft, let the Bils worry about that.

[Davii]

Sanchez and Siemian better get off the tracks, the Lynch train is gaining speed!

9348

[Poet]

Oh my god I forgot that some people actually think Tyrod Taylor is good at the game of football.

[Davii]

Oh my god I forgot that some people actually think Tyrod Taylor is good at the game of football.

He shares initials with Timothy Tebow, therefore.... touched.

[iLands]

So what I got from this thread is that Dak will look awful and TyGod won't be paid.

[NightTerror218]

Dak has been impressive for sure

[slim]

So what I got from this thread is that Dak will look awful and TyGod won't be paid.

Oops...

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Dak looked terrible as a passer just 2 years ago. I'm very impressed with the progress he's made.

[Dzone]

The Dak Prescott -Paxton Lynch rivalry is going to make for some great drama. Especially when they meet in super bowl 55+

[BroncoWave]

So what I got from this thread is that Dak will look awful and TyGod won't be paid.

It is funny reading the hot takes about Dak. They sorry.

[Simple Jaded]

I'm not sorry, I still don't want Dak or Tyrod.

[BroncoWave]

I'm not sorry, I still don't want Dak or Tyrod.

You sorry.

[Simple Jaded]

You sorry.

Clearly. But not about what think I'm sorry about.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

You sorry.


Clearly. But not about what think I'm sorry about.

This is clearly all about Boise. It's ok my friend, it's ok. ...

[Davii]

The Dak Prescott -Paxton Lynch rivalry is going to make for some great drama. Especially when they meet in super bowl 55+

This makes me think of a retirement community.