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VonDoom
04-18-2016, 04:59 PM
Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis 57m57 minutes ago

RB Ronnie Hillman and Broncos have agreed on 1-year contract, per NFL source. #9news #9sports

Lindsay Jones ‏@bylindsayhjones 42m42 minutes ago

It's going to be an interesting dynamic in Broncos RB room, with CJ Anderson back on big new contract, and Ronnie Hillman back on 1-yr deal.

Lindsay Jones ‏@bylindsayhjones 42m42 minutes ago

Hillman and Anderson were 1A-1B for all of 2015, but team clearly valued Anderson more in playoffs -- and free agency.

Also, Brandon McManus signed his EFRA tender, as if there were any doubt:

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‏@Rand_Getlin

I'm told Brandon McManus signed his exclusive rights tender today with the #Broncos. Made 85.7% of his FGs last year. 97.2% of his XPs.

LawDog
04-18-2016, 04:59 PM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000653894/article/ronnie-hillman-broncos-agree-on-oneyear-contract

Not sure I'm really in love with this signing...

Tned
04-18-2016, 05:04 PM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000653894/article/ronnie-hillman-broncos-agree-on-oneyear-contract

Not sure I'm really in love with this signing...

Ohh, I thought you were saying the Broncos had paid Hillman to resign, as in retire. I was thinking his retirement would give the Broncos running game a boost.

Tned
04-18-2016, 05:05 PM
Lawdog beat you to the scoop by a minute, but I've got to say, your thread has a lot more info. I'm merging them.

BroncoWave
04-18-2016, 05:11 PM
But, but, but, he suuuuuccccckkkkkksssssss!!!!!

Slick
04-18-2016, 05:12 PM
Yay! How exciting.

tubby
04-18-2016, 05:13 PM
Wonder if he makes the team.

TXBRONC
04-18-2016, 05:14 PM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000653894/article/ronnie-hillman-broncos-agree-on-oneyear-contract

Not sure I'm really in love with this signing...

As third down back and change of pace back I don't mind.

Tned
04-18-2016, 05:15 PM
But, but, but, he suuuuuccccckkkkkksssssss!!!!!

Miss me yet? :wave:

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2015/0303/20150303__peyton-hillis-broncos-030315~p1.jpg

BroncoWave
04-18-2016, 05:17 PM
Hmm, nope, still don't miss that scrub.

slim
04-18-2016, 05:20 PM
Wonder if he makes the team.

Maybe if Bibbs gets hurt.

tubby
04-18-2016, 05:21 PM
Maybe if Bibbs gets hurt.

I guess the knock on Bibbs is that he blows at pass pro.

underrated29
04-18-2016, 05:22 PM
Ronnie almost broke a tackle running to sign this contract.


PS- he does suck.
PPS- why us? I hop we draft Tyler E and cut ronald. I just watched the pats game highlights and him walking off the field with his hands up like what kind of a throw was that....oh its a backward pass??whaaaaa?

chazoe60
04-18-2016, 05:22 PM
bleh. Subtraction by addition

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
04-18-2016, 05:26 PM
$600k guaranteed? That doesn't exactly say they're high on him. That means he's competing for a roster spot.

Ronnie's only strength so far has been his esplosiveness.
He could be a premier 3rd down back if he was an above average pass catcher and blocker, but he hasn't been so far, not even close.
He could also be a dangerous punt returner if his hands were reliable.
Pull your head out Ronnie.

Timmy!
04-18-2016, 05:27 PM
Depth is good. So far Bibbs can't get on the field so until he does anything more than sit in meetings and practice I will take Hillman.

7DnBrnc53
04-18-2016, 05:32 PM
Since it is a one-year deal, I think that it is his last year here. Hopefully, Christian McCaffrey replaces him next year.

TXBRONC
04-18-2016, 05:33 PM
Maybe if Bibbs gets hurt.

Slim, Bibbs has come up short of making the active roster because he can't block.

slim
04-18-2016, 05:34 PM
Slim, Bibbs has come up short of making the active roster because he can't block.

I think blocking is mostly effort and want to....so if that is the reason, then he shouldn't even be on the PS IMO.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
04-18-2016, 05:36 PM
I think blocking is mostly effort and want to....so if that is the reason, then he shouldn't even be on the PS IMO.

It also has a lot to do with football IQ too.

TXBRONC
04-18-2016, 05:37 PM
I think blocking is mostly effort and want to....so if that is the reason, then he shouldn't even be on the PS IMO.

If you tell Under this he's going to take a chainsaw to his mangina.

dogfish
04-18-2016, 05:51 PM
meh! "he knows the system," i guess. . . for whatever that's worth. . . i just hope we still draft a solid back-- the depth there does not look good. . .

VonDoom
04-18-2016, 05:51 PM
$600k guaranteed? That doesn't exactly say they're high on him. That means he's competing for a roster spot.

Ronnie's only strength so far has been his esplosiveness.
He could be a premier 3rd down back if he was an above average pass catcher and blocker, but he hasn't been so far, not even close.
He could also be a dangerous punt returner if his hands were reliable.
Pull your head out Ronnie.

If he was really a priority, they wouldn't have waited this long to sign him. Still, he's been fine and I don't really have an issue with him coming back. If he makes the roster, though, $2 million seems a bit high considering our cap space:

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 38m38 minutes ago

The #Broncos signed RB Ronnie Hillman to a 1-year deal worth $2 million with roughly $600k guaranteed, source said.

VonDoom
04-18-2016, 05:52 PM
Lawdog beat you to the scoop by a minute, but I've got to say, your thread has a lot more info. I'm merging them.

I always check first and didn't see that thread. They must have posted at almost the same time, since our time stamps were the same.

I did spell "re-sign" right, though, so ha!

Tned
04-18-2016, 05:53 PM
$600k guaranteed? That doesn't exactly say they're high on him. That means he's competing for a roster spot.

Ronnie's only strength so far has been his esplosiveness.
He could be a premier 3rd down back if he was an above average pass catcher and blocker, but he hasn't been so far, not even close.
He could also be a dangerous punt returner if his hands were reliable.
Pull your head out Ronnie.

That has to be close to the veteran minimum.

Dapper Dan
04-18-2016, 05:57 PM
Zomg. Does Elway even know what he's doin. Hillman must have some dirt on Elway

slim
04-18-2016, 06:01 PM
Zomg. Does Elway even know what he's doin. Hillman must have some dirt on Elway

IDK, someone has to be the 4th RB.

Tned
04-18-2016, 06:07 PM
I always check first and didn't see that thread. They must have posted at almost the same time, since our time stamps were the same.

I did spell "re-sign" right, though, so ha!

Yea, and since when I merged them yours went to the top, you must have beat him by a few seconds, even though I saw his pop up in new posts first.

So, I'm resigned to the fact your were first. ;)

LawDog
04-18-2016, 06:16 PM
I always check first and didn't see that thread. They must have posted at almost the same time, since our time stamps were the same.

I did spell "re-sign" right, though, so ha!

I could edit the post but not the thread title... at least not after Tned merged them. I was so surprised that there wasn't a thread on it that I got all flustered and forgot to hyphenate.

Mike
04-18-2016, 06:17 PM
Whatever....as long as he isn't the workhorse and isn't used for short-yardage/goal line situations...whatever.

turftoad
04-18-2016, 07:47 PM
Well he's such a tackle breaking beast maybe the thought is to turn him into a fullback!

Simple Jaded
04-18-2016, 08:00 PM
He'll fit much better if the OL can get it together, maybe then he'll be able to use the straight line speed. To me he looks like Poorti$ when he runs but he profiles like a smaller version of Tatum Bell, only with less even power because of size limitations, not a lot of creativity and make you miss.

Still want Keith Marshall as a mid-late round flyer, literally better at everything than Hillman and Thompson is J.A.G.

TXBRONC
04-18-2016, 09:14 PM
Well he's such a tackle breaking beast maybe the thought is to turn him into a fullback!

Short yardage specialist.

Simple Jaded
04-19-2016, 12:13 AM
Darius Jackson from EMU is another late round sleeper I'd like.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/members/ratings/profile.php?pyid=123620

underrated29
04-19-2016, 12:31 AM
If you tell Under this he's going to take a chainsaw to his mangina.

Too late

MOtorboat
04-19-2016, 03:08 AM
What happens when he's getting the majority of the carries again? Do we freak out about how much Anderson is getting paid?

Traveler
04-19-2016, 04:28 AM
What happens when he's getting the majority of the carries again? Do we freak out about how much Anderson is getting paid?

Hopefully Anderson is working on losing weight and building up his stamina. Gase was right to call him "fatty." I don't want to see him pulling himself out of games anymore after one or two plays because he is gassed. Also holding out hope my namesake Marshall is drafted by Denver.

Northman
04-19-2016, 04:33 AM
Yay?

Northman
04-19-2016, 04:36 AM
Zomg. Does Elway even know what he's doin. Hillman must have some dirt on Elway


IDK, someone has to be the 4th RB.

Bwhahahahahahahaaa oh shit, nicely played Slimdog.

Dapper Dan
04-19-2016, 08:15 AM
Bwhahahahahahahaaa oh shit, nicely played Slimdog.

He doesn't deserve to be on the team! He sux!!!!11!!1

Dreadnought
04-19-2016, 08:38 AM
I actually don't mind Hillman, and am pretty OK with this signing.

OTOH, my instincts are telling me to be wary here. Ronnie is Broncowave's boi, and Broncowave has an almost unblemished record of always being totally wrong about any subject you care to name, so on that note this argues we should have sent him packing.

I am torn.

BroncoWave
04-19-2016, 09:09 AM
I actually don't mind Hillman, and am pretty OK with this signing.

OTOH, my instincts are telling me to be wary here. Ronnie is Broncowave's boi, and Broncowave has an almost unblemished record of always being totally wrong about any subject you care to name, so on that note this argues we should have sent him packing.

I am torn.

You mean like Hillis, Cutler, and Scheffler? Wait, no, I was 100% right on all of them.

Slick
04-19-2016, 09:10 AM
He might surprise us if the o line can open up some holes.

wayninja
04-19-2016, 09:37 AM
I want to have sexual relations with this thread.

artie_dale
04-19-2016, 10:00 AM
Miss me yet? :wave:

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2015/0303/20150303__peyton-hillis-broncos-030315~p1.jpg

THANKS JOSH MCDANIELS!

Too bad Hillis relied too much on the HGH/Steroids (just a strong assumption due to the way he bulked up from the time he as in Denver to the time he was too injured to continue to play).

artie_dale
04-19-2016, 10:02 AM
He (Hillman) came cheap. Makes me wonder though, just how much confidence they have in Bibbs or if they just want to have competition and depth AND if they plan on drafting a RB. They'll probably do what they've done and rely on UFAs to add more depth.

tubby
04-19-2016, 10:07 AM
You mean like Hillis, Cutler, and Scheffler? Wait, no, I was 100% right on all of them.

Identifying lack of talent is different though.

Dreadnought
04-19-2016, 11:07 AM
You mean like Hillis, Cutler, and Scheffler? Wait, no, I was 100% right on all of them.

No, you pulled (yet another) O-fer on those three. Like I said, a perfect record.

Buff
04-19-2016, 11:27 AM
My problem with Hillman (aside from him not being very good at football) is that our coaches like to use their RBs interchangeably. He does not possess an "interchangeable" skill-set. He's a 3rd down scat back who we like to run between the tackles on 1st and 10 for some unknowable reason.

We better draft a RB this year.

BroncoWave
04-19-2016, 11:29 AM
No, you pulled (yet another) O-fer on those three. Like I said, a perfect record.

So scheffler didn't wash out of the NFL soon after leaving Denver? Hillis didn't get let go of by about 3 different teams after leaving Denver? Cutler hasn't been wholly average since leaving Denver? Are you watching an NFL in an alternate universe that I'm not aware of?

turftoad
04-19-2016, 11:32 AM
My problem with Hillman (aside from him not being very good at football) is that our coaches like to use their RBs interchangeably. He does not possess an "interchangeable" skill-set. He's a 3rd down scat back who we like to run between the tackles on 1st and 10 for some unknowable reason.

We better draft a RB this year.

Unknowable reason? Buff, its because he's an up the middle tackle breaking beast of a man.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
04-19-2016, 11:38 AM
My problem with Hillman (aside from him not being very good at football) is that our coaches like to use their RBs interchangeably. He does not possess an "interchangeable" skill-set. He's a 3rd down scat back who we like to run between the tackles on 1st and 10 for some unknowable reason.

We better draft a RB this year.

...a 3rd down back who hasn't proven to be an asset as a receiver or blocker, no less.

LTC Pain
04-19-2016, 11:42 AM
My problem with Hillman (aside from him not being very good at football) is that our coaches like to use their RBs interchangeably. He does not possess an "interchangeable" skill-set. He's a 3rd down scat back who we like to run between the tackles on 1st and 10 for some unknowable reason.

We better draft a RB this year.

I agree!

Cugel
04-19-2016, 11:49 AM
Nobody here really has any idea how Hillman can do in this offense. What they know is how he does with one of the worst OLs in the NFL. He's a smaller change of pace back. Only he was getting hit 2 yards in the backfield a LOT and Peyton was operating out of the pistol because he couldn't play from under center for most of the year. That didn't help the running game.

The Broncos have dumped their starting OL: Ryan Harris, Evan Mathis, and Louis Vasquez are gone and Schofield has been benched as a starter and is only still here because he's earning $600k. He might not make the 53 man roster.

This year they are going to have decent if not great OL, so we'll see what Hillman can do if he's not getting hit behind the los.

August will be plenty of time to evaluate whether Ronnie Hillman can contribute with a rebuilt OL. They let him hit FA and find out that there wasn't a lot of interest in him out there - or for RBs in general these days. So he re-signed for virtually no money (for an NFL veteran).

He will have to compete with Bibbs, and probably a rookie RB.

artie_dale
04-19-2016, 11:53 AM
My problem with Hillman (aside from him not being very good at football) is that our coaches like to use their RBs interchangeably. He does not possess an "interchangeable" skill-set. He's a 3rd down scat back who we like to run between the tackles on 1st and 10 for some unknowable reason.

We better draft a RB this year.

Hillman lost me when he didn't put forth ANY effort to cover that backward pass against the Pats. I don't give a shit if he didn't know or not, you ALWAYS play as if it was. Dude is an IDIOT as far as I'm concerned. He'd have to do something pretty amazing for me to forgive him for that idiotic, lack of situational awareness, narrow minded, move.

Buff
04-19-2016, 11:56 AM
Hillman lost me when he didn't put forth ANY effort to cover that backward pass against the Pats. I don't give a shit if he didn't know or not, you ALWAYS play as if it was. Dude is an IDIOT as far as I'm concerned. He'd have to do something pretty amazing for me to forgive him for that idiotic, lack of situational awareness, narrow minded, move.

He lost me when he sent the stupid "Peyton Manning/fake fans" tweet - and was dead to me when he showed zero situational awareness on that backward pass.

Northman
04-19-2016, 01:28 PM
He lost me when he sent the stupid "Peyton Manning/fake fans" tweet - and was dead to me when he showed zero situational awareness on that backward pass.

Dont you dare talk bad about Dapper's favorite player man! He's going to let you have it!

TXBRONC
04-19-2016, 01:43 PM
I actually don't mind Hillman, and am pretty OK with this signing.

OTOH, my instincts are telling me to be wary here. Ronnie is Broncowave's boi, and Broncowave has an almost unblemished record of always being totally wrong about any subject you care to name, so on that note this argues we should have sent him packing.

I am torn.

True, but Under has even worse track record fwiw.

TXBRONC
04-19-2016, 02:00 PM
He (Hillman) came cheap. Makes me wonder though, just how much confidence they have in Bibbs or if they just want to have competition and depth AND if they plan on drafting a RB. They'll probably do what they've done and rely on UFAs to add more depth.

I would suspect that it's a combination of the two.

turftoad
04-19-2016, 02:02 PM
Nobody here really has any idea how Hillman can do in this offense. What they know is how he does with one of the worst OLs in the NFL. He's a smaller change of pace back. Only he was getting hit 2 yards in the backfield a LOT and Peyton was operating out of the pistol because he couldn't play from under center for most of the year. That didn't help the running game.

The Broncos have dumped their starting OL: Ryan Harris, Evan Mathis, and Louis Vasquez are gone and Schofield has been benched as a starter and is only still here because he's earning $600k. He might not make the 53 man roster.

This year they are going to have decent if not great OL, so we'll see what Hillman can do if he's not getting hit behind the los.

August will be plenty of time to evaluate whether Ronnie Hillman can contribute with a rebuilt OL. They let him hit FA and find out that there wasn't a lot of interest in him out there - or for RBs in general these days. So he re-signed for virtually no money (for an NFL veteran).

He will have to compete with Bibbs, and probably a rookie RB.

I'm more excited to see what CJ can do with the same sitch.

Simple Jaded
04-19-2016, 04:54 PM
After everything Hillis, Cutler and Scheffler did for you guys? Smdh.

Tned
04-19-2016, 09:34 PM
You mean like Hillis, Cutler, and Scheffler? Wait, no, I was 100% right on all of them.

McDaniels...

BroncoWave
04-19-2016, 09:36 PM
McDaniels...

No, I was right about him too. I have pretty consistently said he was not ready to be a head coach and have roster control and Bowlen was right to fire him when he did. Now I never unleashed the "he set us back 10 years" #hottake, but I have consistently been right about him.

Tned
04-19-2016, 09:36 PM
I'm more excited to see what CJ can do with the same sitch.

Hillman was a cheap re-sign and hopefully Bibbs will beat him out in camp, and if not, then Hillman is solid and knows the offense.

slim
04-19-2016, 09:46 PM
No, I was right about him too. I have pretty consistently said he was not ready to be a head coach and have roster control and Bowlen was right to fire him when he did. Now I never unleashed the "he set us back 10 years" #hottake, but I have consistently been right about him.

Lol

wayninja
04-19-2016, 10:14 PM
Not sure what there is to discuss. He got a contract and is therefore good. That's how this works, as I have been made to understand.

slim
04-19-2016, 10:22 PM
Not sure what there is to discuss. He got a contract and is therefore good. That's how this works, as I have been made to understand.

Your understanding lacks understanding

wayninja
04-20-2016, 04:46 PM
Your understanding lacks understanding

Your comment lacks content.

Tned
04-20-2016, 05:58 PM
https://twitter.com/MikeKlis/status/722918314276556801

Tned
04-20-2016, 06:18 PM
No, I was right about him too. I have pretty consistently said he was not ready to be a head coach and have roster control and Bowlen was right to fire him when he did. Now I never unleashed the "he set us back 10 years" #hottake, but I have consistently been right about him.

Actually, I did a quick search, because I remembered it differently, and you are right. It was some McDaniels fan boy named BaileyTheBest that had hundreds of McDaniels fan boy/defense posts, just a smattering of which are below. I'm not sure why I was thinking it was you.



So the wins were all on miracles and the losses were all because McDaniels is a horrible coach. Yet more proof that logic is simply ignored when McD is discussed on here.


You don't start a season 6-0 by having no idea how to coach. Come on now. Yeah we were awful after that, but you have to have at least SOME idea what you're doing when the team you coach starts 6-0.

You should also look no further than how much Kyle Orton overpreformed to get a sense of his coaching abilities.

Maybe if we went 0-16 you'd have a point that he was completely incompetent as a coach but that wasn't the case.



Yes, you can.

McD is the one who controls the offense so he can't really yell at himself. You have no idea how hard he was on himself about the offense struggling or how much effort he put into fixing it, so unless you are privy to those facts you really have no grounds for calling him a hypocrite.


No, but I'm not the one accusing him of things like being a hypocrite, now am I? I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt because I don't know all the facts.


Agreed. That is such a ridiculous and bull-headed opinion to have on this topic. Josh McDaniels has never had a losing season in his life in football. He is all about winning. Do you REALLY think he would sacrifice trying to win games just to justify a draft pick? Sorry but I just don't buy that. That's not how he's wired.

turftoad
04-20-2016, 06:31 PM
https://twitter.com/MikeKlis/status/722918314276556801

Not bad for a power Fullback!

Ravage!!!
04-21-2016, 10:54 AM
No, I was right about him too. I have pretty consistently said he was not ready to be a head coach and have roster control and Bowlen was right to fire him when he did. Now I never unleashed the "he set us back 10 years" #hottake, but I have consistently been right about him.

Hard to tell where the team would have been had we kept McDick and Tebow. We wouldn't have had Manning, and using that once-in-a-lifetime example as proof that 'everything turned out great'..... is pretty short sighted.

Davii
04-21-2016, 11:44 AM
Hard to tell where the team would have been had we kept McDick and Tebow. We wouldn't have had Manning, and using that once-in-a-lifetime example as proof that 'everything turned out great'..... is pretty short sighted.

The Los Angeles Broncos maybe?

BroncoWave
04-21-2016, 11:44 AM
Hard to tell where the team would have been had we kept McDick and Tebow. We wouldn't have had Manning, and using that once-in-a-lifetime example as proof that 'everything turned out great'..... is pretty short sighted.

We made the playoffs with Tebow and without Manning the year after McD was fired. Even if Manning never comes to town, we would have been fine. Maybe not two Super Bowl appearances fine, but we wouldn't have been in the gutter for 10 years like many proclaimed.

turftoad
04-21-2016, 11:50 AM
We made the playoffs with Tebow and without Manning the year after McD was fired. Even if Manning never comes to town, we would have been fine. Maybe not two Super Bowl appearances fine, but we wouldn't have been in the gutter for 10 years like many proclaimed.

You don't know that for sure.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
04-21-2016, 11:53 AM
We made the playoffs with Tebow and without Manning the year after McD was fired. Even if Manning never comes to town, we would have been fine. Maybe not two Super Bowl appearances fine, but we wouldn't have been in the gutter for 10 years like many proclaimed.

The law of attrition in the NFL puts teams in 3-4 year rebuild cycles, generally speaking. Ten years is a bit dramatic, but he definitely set us back 3-4 years with the way he depleted the roster though burning bridges and horrible drafting.
Also, having a coach no one wants to play for hurts landing FA's.
Fortunately, Elway brought in Manning and everything changed.

BroncoWave
04-21-2016, 11:53 AM
You don't know that for sure.

I would feel pretty safe in saying that John Elway would not have let this franchise be a bottom feeder for 10 years. I have a little more faith in him than that.

BroncoWave
04-21-2016, 11:58 AM
You don't know that for sure.

But if we do want to pull this card, I don't know that we would have been fine any more than you know if we would have sucked for years and years, so really all we can go off of is the facts, which definitely are on the side of McD barely setting the franchise back at all.

turftoad
04-21-2016, 11:59 AM
I would feel pretty safe in saying that John Elway would not have let this franchise be a bottom feeder for 10 years. I have a little more faith in him than that.

You are probably right about this because Elway would have kicked McDousch out the door on day one.

The Glue Factory
04-21-2016, 12:11 PM
Your comment lacks content.

I find your lack of faith... disturbing.

BroncoJoe
04-21-2016, 01:30 PM
I find your lack of faith... disturbing.

Wave is going to be totally lost with this post.

VonDoom
04-21-2016, 01:37 PM
I find your lack of faith... disturbing.

8861

BroncoWave
04-21-2016, 02:05 PM
Wave is going to be totally lost with this post.

Jesus Christ, I don't remember one quote from an obscure movie I saw once three years ago and suddenly I don't know any movie quote ever?

Davii
04-21-2016, 02:12 PM
Jesus Christ, I don't remember one quote from an obscure movie I saw once three years ago and suddenly I don't know any movie quote ever?

That's just like, your opinion, man.

underrated29
04-21-2016, 02:12 PM
Jesus Christ, I don't remember one quote from an obscure movie I saw once three years ago and suddenly I don't know any movie quote ever?


What was the quote you didnt recall?

Davii
04-21-2016, 02:13 PM
Jesus Christ, I don't remember one quote from an obscure movie I saw once three years ago and suddenly I don't know any movie quote ever?

Don't **** with the Jesus.

MOtorboat
04-21-2016, 02:26 PM
Wait. People are still spouting that ridiculous line that Denver was set back 10 years by trading Cutler?

Lolololololololololol.

Davii
04-21-2016, 02:28 PM
Wait. People are still spouting that ridiculous line that Denver was set back 10 years by trading Cutler?

Lolololololololololol.

This is a gross oversimplification of what people state.

MOtorboat
04-21-2016, 02:29 PM
This is a gross oversimplification of what people state.

You know who was set back by that trade?

The Bears.

turftoad
04-21-2016, 02:36 PM
Wait. People are still spouting that ridiculous line that Denver was set back 10 years by trading Cutler?

Lolololololololololol.

No, that was Wave bringing it up again. No one else.

wayninja
04-21-2016, 02:37 PM
This thread took a sharp left turn somewhere. It's about hillman signing a contract and of course we have Tebow, Cutler, McDaniels, and Manning in the mix all sprinkled together with non-sequitur movie quotes. Pretty, pretty.... pretty good.

turftoad
04-21-2016, 02:39 PM
No, I was right about him too. I have pretty consistently said he was not ready to be a head coach and have roster control and Bowlen was right to fire him when he did. Now I never unleashed the "he set us back 10 years" #hottake, but I have consistently been right about him.


I would feel pretty safe in saying that John Elway would not have let this franchise be a bottom feeder for 10 years. I have a little more faith in him than that.


Wait. People are still spouting that ridiculous line that Denver was set back 10 years by trading Cutler?

Lolololololololololol.

There you have it MO.

BroncoWave
04-21-2016, 02:41 PM
What was the quote you didnt recall?

Some quote from Draft Day. Totally on par with not knowing a famous quote from star wars I guess.

BroncoWave
04-21-2016, 02:42 PM
There you have it MO.

FWIW, this was started by dread saying I'm wrong about everything, which is his way of trolling me about my mcd takes.

Davii
04-21-2016, 03:05 PM
FWIW, this was started by dread saying I'm wrong about everything, which is his way of trolling me about my mcd takes.

Wrong again. It was started by you being wrong about everything. :lol:

Sorry, sorry... Conduct unbecoming a moderator and what not....

Glad Ronnie's back on a one year, small money deal. Obviously his value around the league was not what he thought it was. Maybe this motivates him, and maybe with an improved OL he can start finding his groove.

TXBRONC
04-21-2016, 07:45 PM
Lol

Agreed.

Tned
04-21-2016, 07:47 PM
Wait. People are still spouting that ridiculous line that Denver was set back 10 years by trading Cutler?

Lolololololololololol.

People called, McDaniels said no. Right?

Tned
04-21-2016, 07:50 PM
Wrong again. It was started by you being wrong about everything. :lol:

Sorry, sorry... Conduct unbecoming a moderator and what not....

.

If you are right, is it really conduct unbecoming? :confused:

Slick
04-21-2016, 07:53 PM
McDaniels got us Von.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
04-21-2016, 07:53 PM
Wrong again. It was started by you being wrong about everything. :lol:

Sorry, sorry... Conduct unbecoming a moderator and what not....

Glad Ronnie's back on a one year, small money deal. Obviously his value around the league was not what he thought it was. Maybe this motivates him, and maybe with an improved OL he can start finding his groove.

Get some hands and learn to pick up the blitz would be great too!!

MOtorboat
04-21-2016, 07:55 PM
People called, McDaniels said no. Right?

Too bad the quarterback couldn't handle it better.

Oh well, the franchise is much better off.

dogfish
04-21-2016, 10:52 PM
McDaniels got us Von.

lol! he did not. . . elway got us von. . . mcd sucked bad enough to "earn" that pick, but he undoubtedly would have found a way to eff it up if he'd been left in charge. . . that dude wasted an embarrassment of high picks with crap all to show for it besides DT. . . my favorite was when he gave up a future first (the pick that seattle used to find a guy named earl thomas) to draft that slow midget corner in the second. . .

dogfish
04-21-2016, 10:54 PM
Get some hands and learn to pick up the blitz would be great too!!

and fall on the ball next time, idiot!

wayninja
04-21-2016, 11:09 PM
If we are going to just go with total causality, you can credit McD with the superbowl win. How else do events unfold for us to hoist the lombardi if not for him?

Also, Hitler made America great.

Poet
04-21-2016, 11:14 PM
lol! he did not. . . elway got us von. . . mcd sucked bad enough to "earn" that pick, but he undoubtedly would have found a way to eff it up if he'd been left in charge. . . that dude wasted an embarrassment of high picks with crap all to show for it besides DT. . . my favorite was when he gave up a future first (the pick that seattle used to find a guy named earl thomas) to draft that slow midget corner in the second. . .

You don't like Alphonso Smith?

Simple Jaded
04-22-2016, 01:19 AM
Wait. People are still spouting that ridiculous line that Denver was set back 10 years by trading Cutler?

Lolololololololololol.


Thank God for John Elway, otherwise we'd been absolutely right. Tim ******* Tebow.

MOtorboat
04-22-2016, 03:01 AM
Thank God for John Elway, otherwise we'd been absolutely right. Tim ******* Tebow.

That's always the funny part. As ******* horrible as Tebow was, that season clearly proved how ridiculous the McDaniels trading Cutler blow up among the fans always was.

BroncoWave
04-22-2016, 06:35 AM
Thank God for John Elway, otherwise we'd been absolutely right. Tim ******* Tebow.

Elway was being groomed to eventually take over the Broncos before McD was ever even hired. So a scenario in which he wasn't running things at this point really wasn't in the cards regardless of had we hired McD or not.

Tned
04-22-2016, 06:54 AM
That's always the funny part. As ******* horrible as Tebow was, that season clearly proved how ridiculous the McDaniels trading Cutler blow up among the fans always was.

Explain.

TXBRONC
04-22-2016, 06:58 AM
Jesus Christ, I don't remember one quote from an obscure movie I saw once three years ago and suddenly I don't know any movie quote ever?

This post of yours proves Joe 100% right.

BroncoWave
04-22-2016, 07:00 AM
This post of yours proves Joe 100% right.

Right about what?

Davii
04-22-2016, 07:18 AM
Right about what?

That thing. You know.

BroncoJoe
04-22-2016, 07:24 AM
I'm always 100% right.

Davii
04-22-2016, 07:34 AM
I'm always 100% right.

72% of the time, you're 100% right.

Tned
04-22-2016, 07:37 AM
72% of the time, you're 100% right.

Unless your name is BroncoWave, then it's more like 15% of the time, you're 100% right.

TXBRONC
04-22-2016, 09:04 AM
This thread took a sharp left turn somewhere. It's about hillman signing a contract and of course we have Tebow, Cutler, McDaniels, and Manning in the mix all sprinkled together with non-sequitur movie quotes. Pretty, pretty.... pretty good.

Nice Star Trek reference Ninj. :beer:

TXBRONC
04-22-2016, 09:05 AM
Unless your name is BroncoWave, then it's more like 15% of the time, you're 100% right.

15% seems generous.

BroncoWave
04-22-2016, 10:19 AM
15% seems generous.

I take what I can get!

NightTerror218
04-22-2016, 10:26 AM
Hillman is a 1 yr stop gap RB until next year when we draft McCaffery.

MOtorboat
04-22-2016, 10:35 AM
Explain.

Explain what? The trade didn't set Denver back; it was clearly possible to win without Cutler and Tebow to this day has the same number of playoff wins as the great Jay Cutler.

wayninja
04-22-2016, 10:49 AM
Explain what? The trade didn't set Denver back; it was clearly possible to win without Cutler and Tebow to this day has the same number of playoff wins as the great Jay Cutler.

This should probably go in my signature.

tubby
04-22-2016, 10:50 AM
#cok6

Slick
04-22-2016, 12:05 PM
lol! he did not. . . elway got us von. . . mcd sucked bad enough to "earn" that pick, but he undoubtedly would have found a way to eff it up if he'd been left in charge. . . that dude wasted an embarrassment of high picks with crap all to show for it besides DT. . . my favorite was when he gave up a future first (the pick that seattle used to find a guy named earl thomas) to draft that slow midget corner in the second. . .

Well no shit babycakes. I didn't mean McD picked Von. His suckage gave Denver the ability to get a player like Von.

BroncoWave
04-22-2016, 12:40 PM
my favorite was when he gave up a future first (the pick that seattle used to find a guy named earl thomas) to draft that slow midget corner in the second. . .

This comment about Alphonso Smith made me curious so I looked it up. Here are some of his combine measurables compares to CHJ.

Smith: 5'9, 190 LBS, 4.37 40 yard dash (which is anything but slow)
CHJ: 5'9, 194 LBS, 4.48 40.

So they are the exact same height and CHJ is slower. The mesurables aren't everything.

While Smith obviously didn't work out, it's not because he was too short or too slow.

turftoad
04-22-2016, 12:50 PM
What about that great move to trade up into the 2nd round round for TE Richard Quinn? :shocked:

Poet
04-22-2016, 12:54 PM
What the **** is a Richard Quinn?

wayninja
04-22-2016, 01:40 PM
Can we rename this thread to "Anything but hillman signing a 1 year contract"? TIA.

Slick
04-22-2016, 01:42 PM
Can we rename this thread to "Anything but hillman signing a 1 year contract"? TIA.

By all means, continue to talk about the greatness that is Ronnie Hillman. School us.

dogfish
04-22-2016, 01:51 PM
What the **** is a Richard Quinn?

big dick quinn. . . he's the TE we drafted in the second or third round who had like nine total catches in his college career. . .


but hey, what a blocker! if we still had him here, i bet he could blast open some huge holes for hillman. . . although we all know ronnie will just run guys over if there's not a hole. . .

dogfish
04-22-2016, 02:00 PM
This comment about Alphonso Smith made me curious so I looked it up. Here are some of his combine measurables compares to CHJ.

Smith: 5'9, 190 LBS, 4.37 40 yard dash (which is anything but slow)
CHJ: 5'9, 194 LBS, 4.48 40.

So they are the exact same height and CHJ is slower. The mesurables aren't everything.

While Smith obviously didn't work out, it's not because he was too short or too slow.

lol. . . but what was his three cone? stats schmats. . . nice job comparing a complete scrub to chris harris, though. . . while totally missing the point. . . elway "took a chance" on an instinctive DB with less than ideal measurables as an undrafted free agent. . . freakin' mcdaniels traded away a future first (earl thomas!) to draft a guy with nickel back written all over him. . .

Davii
04-22-2016, 02:23 PM
lol. . . but what was his three cone? stats schmats. . . nice job comparing a complete scrub to chris harris, though. . . while totally missing the point. . . elway "took a chance" on an instinctive DB with less than ideal measurables as an undrafted free agent. . . freakin' mcdaniels traded away a future first (earl thomas!) to draft a guy with nickel back written all over him. . .

Yeah, but Elway's not a moron or a complete failure as the head of a franchise...

TXBRONC
04-22-2016, 04:16 PM
big dick quinn. . . he's the TE we drafted in the second or third round who had like nine total catches in his college career. . .


but hey, what a blocker! if we still had him here, i bet he could blast open some huge holes for hillman. . . although we all know ronnie will just run guys over if there's not a hole. . .

Dick Quinn before he dicks you.

TXBRONC
04-22-2016, 04:18 PM
This comment about Alphonso Smith made me curious so I looked it up. Here are some of his combine measurables compares to CHJ.

Smith: 5'9, 190 LBS, 4.37 40 yard dash (which is anything but slow)
CHJ: 5'9, 194 LBS, 4.48 40.

So they are the exact same height and CHJ is slower. The mesurables aren't everything.

While Smith obviously didn't work out, it's not because he was too short or too slow.

:lol:

So what 4.37 40. In pads he was slow.

wayninja
04-22-2016, 04:35 PM
By all means, continue to talk about the greatness that is Ronnie Hillman. School us.

Well, he does have a contract. And we all know that means he's good. So there's that. Class dismissed.

TXBRONC
04-22-2016, 06:39 PM
Well, he does have a contract. And we all know that means he's good. So there's that. Class dismissed.

He's not a great back but he is versatile and is nice change of pace.

tubby
04-22-2016, 09:29 PM
Oh no not Dick Quinn. What shitty drafts. I'll post em on Monday unless someone beats me to it.

Simple Jaded
04-22-2016, 09:45 PM
Elphonso Smith's "official" 40 time was a 4.57, totally worth that 14th overall pick that turned out to be that Free Safety from Seattle that's only been named to one or two All-Pro teams.

Slick
04-22-2016, 10:19 PM
Ed Reed!!

dogfish
04-22-2016, 10:27 PM
Ed Reed!!

darcel mcbath. . .

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
04-22-2016, 10:51 PM
Alphono's official combine 40 yard dash was 4.51....nice try though. Those aren't the numbers you want from an undersized corner in the top of the 2nd, unless your Josh freaking McDoushbag.

slim
04-22-2016, 11:06 PM
#cok6

How many coaches does he have to kill before someone does something?

Simple Jaded
04-22-2016, 11:08 PM
Alphono's official combine 40 yard dash was 4.51....nice try though. Those aren't the numbers you want from an undersized corner in the top of the 2nd, unless your Josh freaking McDoushbag.

Those numbers are what you settle for as a Cover/Tampa 2 CB in the mid-to-late rounds.

Valar Morghulis
04-23-2016, 01:19 AM
a guy with nickel back written all over him. . .

Why would we draft a guy with a Chad Kroeger tattoo?

Tned
04-23-2016, 01:24 AM
I take what I can get!

Ok, so now you're quoting Josh McD?

dogfish
04-23-2016, 03:49 AM
How many coaches does he have to kill before someone does something?

who would you take right now?

frown cannon cutler, mark sanchez, kaepernick, RG3, or fitzpatrick?


any of ya. . .

dogfish
04-23-2016, 03:51 AM
This comment about Alphonso Smith made me curious so I looked it up. Here are some of his combine measurables compares to CHJ.

Smith: 5'9, 190 LBS, 4.37 40 yard dash (which is anything but slow)
CHJ: 5'9, 194 LBS, 4.48 40.

So they are the exact same height and CHJ is slower. The mesurables aren't everything.

While Smith obviously didn't work out, it's not because he was too short or too slow.


Elphonso Smith's "official" 40 time was a 4.57, totally worth that 14th overall pick that turned out to be that Free Safety from Seattle that's only been named to one or two All-Pro teams.


Alphono's official combine 40 yard dash was 4.51....nice try though. Those aren't the numbers you want from an undersized corner in the top of the 2nd, unless your Josh freaking McDoushbag.


wait, wait. . . there is some serious imbalance with the force here. . . which of you effers is telling the troof?


i may have to appeal to that bastion of honesty and goodness, BroncoJoe, to get to the bottom of this. . .

Simple Jaded
04-23-2016, 03:55 AM
wait, wait. . . there is some serious imbalance with the force here. . . which of you effers is telling the troof?


i may have to appeal to that bastion of honesty and goodness, BroncoJoe, to get to the bottom of this. . .
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/members/ratings/profile.php?pyid=33825

My Proof of troof, listed under combine results, this is the electronically timed bullshit. But it's "official ".

BroncoWave
04-23-2016, 06:37 AM
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/members/ratings/profile.php?pyid=33825

My Proof of troof, listed under combine results, this is the electronically timed bullshit. But it's "official ".

It also lists his low 40 time as 4.37, so we are both correct. This site also had him rated as a low first to mid second rounder. But don't let that get in the way of the #hottake that McD was taking a guy thought of as a mid to late round prospect.

Valar Morghulis
04-23-2016, 07:47 AM
who would you take right now? frown cannon cutler, mark sanchez, kaepernick, RG3, or fitzpatrick? any of ya. . .

This is a bit like asking if you would like to be raped by 3 aggressive men or ten gentle lovers....

Neither is particularly appealing.

But I would have went with rg3

Ravage!!!
04-23-2016, 09:28 AM
who would you take right now?

frown cannon cutler, mark sanchez, kaepernick, RG3, or fitzpatrick?


any of ya. . .

Cutler is easily the best QB of that list, without question or hesitation.

slim
04-23-2016, 09:29 AM
who would you take right now?

frown cannon cutler, mark sanchez, kaepernick, RG3, or fitzpatrick?


any of ya. . .

Fitz for one year while we develop our rookie

BroncoWave
04-23-2016, 09:48 AM
I would take kap over Cutler and not think twice about it. He's younger, has led a team to a super bowl, and he's more athletic. Both make bad decisions with the football so that part is a wash.

TXBRONC
04-23-2016, 12:54 PM
darcel mcbath. . .

His career ended on the same note as McBeth.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
04-23-2016, 12:55 PM
This is a bit like asking if you would like to be raped by 3 aggressive men or ten gentle lovers....

Neither is particularly appealing.

But I would have went with rg3

Rape and gentle lover don't belong in the same sentence bro. It's an oxymoron. :D

Valar Morghulis
04-23-2016, 01:05 PM
Rape and gentle lover don't belong in the same sentence bro. It's an oxymoron. :D

I dont know - plenty of "date" rapists will be "gentle"

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
04-23-2016, 01:07 PM
It also lists his low 40 time as 4.37, so we are both correct. This site also had him rated as a low first to mid second rounder. But don't let that get in the way of the #hottake that McD was taking a guy thought of as a mid to late round prospect.

4.37 would have been a hand held time. He was no where near a 4.3 guy.
Maybe he was rated that high, it doesn't change the fact McCluster's draft was a disaster.

Poet
04-23-2016, 01:59 PM
who would you take right now?

frown cannon cutler, mark sanchez, kaepernick, RG3, or fitzpatrick?


any of ya. . .

Frown cannon all day.

TXBRONC
04-23-2016, 02:13 PM
who would you take right now?

frown cannon cutler, mark sanchez, kaepernick, RG3, or fitzpatrick?


any of ya. . .

Cutler hands down.

Tned
04-23-2016, 05:25 PM
It also lists his low 40 time as 4.37, so we are both correct. This site also had him rated as a low first to mid second rounder. But don't let that get in the way of the #hottake that McD was taking a guy thought of as a mid to late round prospect.

For someone that isn't and wasn't a McDaniels' fan boy, it's amazing how much time you've spent over the years defending nearly every criticism against him. You must have 1,000+ posts doing such.

wayninja
04-23-2016, 07:03 PM
who would you take right now?

frown cannon cutler, mark sanchez, kaepernick, RG3, or fitzpatrick?


any of ya. . .

You're glaringly omitting a former bronco from that list. One that was not really given a chance to shine in denver yet having potential.

I'm of course talking about Brady Quinn.

wayninja
04-23-2016, 07:04 PM
For someone that isn't and wasn't a McDaniels' fan boy, it's amazing how much time you've spent over the years defending nearly every criticism against him. You must have 1,000+ posts doing such.

It's all a smokescreen so that he can use the word hottake. It's either a drinking game or something to do with royalties. I'm not sure which.

TXBRONC
04-23-2016, 07:17 PM
It's all a smokescreen so that he can use the word hottake. It's either a drinking game or something to do with royalties. I'm not sure which.

#wayninja's hottake :D

BroncoWave
04-23-2016, 07:23 PM
For someone that isn't and wasn't a McDaniels' fan boy, it's amazing how much time you've spent over the years defending nearly every criticism against him. You must have 1,000+ posts doing such.

I only post facts about McD, not hot takes.

Tned
04-23-2016, 07:28 PM
I only post facts about McD, not hot takes.

Ok, I still clearly don't know what a hot take is, since pulling crap out of your ass and spewing it isn't a hot take. Ok, let me go back to Google on that one.

dogfish
04-23-2016, 07:39 PM
You're glaringly omitting a former bronco from that list. One that was not really given a chance to shine in denver yet having potential.


i assumed no one would actually pick brad van pelt. . .

TXBRONC
04-23-2016, 08:20 PM
i assumed no one would actually pick brad van pelt. . .

I thought he was talking about Dick Quinn. :confused:

Davii
04-23-2016, 09:26 PM
I only post facts about McD, not hot takes.

I could sweat you've said he is a good coach, that is most certainly a hot take

BroncoWave
04-23-2016, 09:48 PM
I could sweat you've said he is a good coach, that is most certainly a hot take

I think had Elway been around and been responsible for picking the roster when McD was hired, he would have been a very successful coach here. His role as his GM was far more the reason for his undoing than his coaching IMO.

Tned
04-23-2016, 10:05 PM
I think had Elway been around and been responsible for picking the roster when McD was hired, he would have been a very successful coach here. His role as his GM was far more the reason for his undoing than his coaching IMO.

Davii that can be translated to yes he has said and believes McDaniels was a good head coach.

Simple Jaded
04-23-2016, 10:47 PM
I think had Elway been around and been responsible for picking the roster when McD was hired, he would have been a very successful coach here. His role as his GM was far more the reason for his undoing than his coaching IMO.

There's zero indication of this though.

He's never been anything but dysfunctional when not with the P*triots, his players hate him and his results well below average.

Simple Jaded
04-23-2016, 11:06 PM
It also lists his low 40 time as 4.37, so we are both correct. This site also had him rated as a low first to mid second rounder. But don't let that get in the way of the #hottake that McD was taking a guy thought of as a mid to late round prospect.

First of all, I actually agree that the 4.57 is not the time I'd go by, for the longest time they were using hand held times and now all of a sudden they wanna change that. And if you'd read mo than just what supports your arguement you'd see this site explain how/why they list those times. He's not a 4.37, he never was, never played like a 4.37 guy.

Second of all, I don't know why there's an issue with saying Elfonso being a mid-late round prospect (though, obviously that's what he was) but my issue with that pick was the fact that Doogie traded a 1st round pick to move up 7-10 spots (or whatever it was) to draft a prospect that you don't really need if he's not there at your original pick.......meaning he was never the kind of player you move around to get, like Shane Ray, for example. Iirc, Doogie said they considered him with one of their 1st round picks, which is fittingly pathetic considering how poor those 1st round picks turned out to be.

Third, as for hottakes, apparently I'm not understanding why this is supposed to be an insult. I must literally be too stupid to insult.

Davii
04-23-2016, 11:20 PM
I think had Elway been around and been responsible for picking the roster when McD was hired, he would have been a very successful coach here. His role as his GM was far more the reason for his undoing than his coaching IMO.

#hottake

wayninja
04-24-2016, 12:05 AM
I only post facts about McD, not hot takes.

I've seen you spew your eagle clad hottake over many a thread my friend.

Tned
04-24-2016, 02:13 AM
#hottake

Man, it must be nice living in an alternate universe then the rest of society. Lilly fields full of Victoria Secret models where only only flip flops....

Wasn't it in his "coaching" role when he did things like take his starting wide receiver (Marshall) in training camp and first make him work as a punt gunner on the scout team (with the entire defense laughing at him on the sideline), and then another time had him playing safety on the scout team.

Even if a starting WR came in out of shape, or didn't know his playbook or got in the coaches dog house for any other reasons, can anyone think of too many times when they've seen a head coach to something like this with his starting/star WR? He later suspended Marshall after he tortured him with crap like this for a week or two, and finally in frustration at one point he punted a ball.

There were numerous well documented pissing contests that McDaniels got into with players, which good head coaches, shit, any NFL head coach, doesn't get into.

BroncoWave
04-24-2016, 07:28 AM
Blaming McD for Marshall's meltdown is kinda stupid when two other teams have traded him for peanuts since then for more of the same antics. Coaching is not Marshall's problem. Marshall is Marshall's problem.

Wouldn't you think Marshall's teammates would have had his back instead of laughing at him had McD done him wrong?

dogfish
04-24-2016, 10:22 AM
Third, as for hottakes, apparently I'm not understanding why this is supposed to be an insult. I must literally be too stupid to insult.

i think it's some shit they say on ESPN, so he thinks it sounds cool. . .

Davii
04-24-2016, 10:38 AM
Blaming McD for Marshall's meltdown is kinda stupid when two other teams have traded him for peanuts since then for more of the same antics. Coaching is not Marshall's problem. Marshall is Marshall's problem.

Wouldn't you think Marshall's teammates would have had his back instead of laughing at him had McD done him wrong?

True, but McD's actions in that were also unacceptable. His lack of "people skills" in dealing with players and other coaches was pretty well documented. He is NOT a good head coach nor a leader of men. Any statement to the contrary is, in fact, a "hot take" of the highest order

Tned
04-24-2016, 11:10 AM
Blaming McD for Marshall's meltdown is kinda stupid when two other teams have traded him for peanuts since then for more of the same antics. Coaching is not Marshall's problem. Marshall is Marshall's problem.

Wouldn't you think Marshall's teammates would have had his back instead of laughing at him had McD done him wrong?

We aren't talking about Marshall's problems, but instead McDaniel's approach - public humiliation.

The point is that good head coaches don't do that to their starting players to punish and humiliate them. He got into pubic pissing contests with other players a well.

BroncoWave
04-24-2016, 01:35 PM
i think it's some shit they say on ESPN, so he thinks it sounds cool. . .

It's something people on Twitter use to make fun of the dumb shit they say on ESPN.

Simple Jaded
04-24-2016, 01:43 PM
That's why I don't get it, I've never tweeted.

TXBRONC
04-24-2016, 05:28 PM
Davii that can be translated to yes he has said and believes McDaniels was a good head coach.

Yeah pretty much.

TXBRONC
04-24-2016, 05:34 PM
I only post facts about McD, not hot takes.

Wave, you've posted your opinions about McDouche bag but not facts. :lol:

Simple Jaded
04-24-2016, 09:01 PM
We aren't talking about Marshall's problems, but instead McDaniel's approach - public humiliation.

The point is that good head coaches don't do that to their starting players to punish and humiliate them. He got into pubic pissing contests with other players a well.

IN his defense one of them was bangin his wife.

TXBRONC
04-24-2016, 09:33 PM
IN his defense one of them was bangin his wife.

McDouchenozzle was paranoid.

Tned
04-24-2016, 09:49 PM
IN his defense one of them was bangin his wife.

In response to Wave's bullshit, err hotttake, this guy did a pretty good job of chronicalling some of the many public feuds/pissing contests that McDaniels got into when he was in Denver.

Cutler
Marshall
Hillis
Scheffler
Offensive line
Mike Nolan (yea, not a player, but still)
I'm sure some I'm not thinking of or this guy didn't chronical

He also touches on his public incidents with Todd Haley and Saun Phillips.

Besides all of that, for the period when he was head coach, he almost never let his coaches talk to the media/beat reporters, it was all Josh all the time.

His behavior in publicly calling out players, punishing/humiliating them, etc., was more like you would expect to see if the the high school paper photographer was somehow given control of the varsity football team, and now wanted to "teach" those players that had tormented him. It wasn't just unprofessional, but juvenile.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/josh-mcdaniels-feud-history-jay-cutler-brandon-marshall-todd-haley/

dogfish
04-24-2016, 09:49 PM
IN his defense one of them was bangin his wife.

i can't imagine losing all those games made him feel any better about it. . .

Tned
04-24-2016, 09:54 PM
i can't imagine losing all those games made him feel any better about it. . .

Yea, but if the guy was going to punch it into Josh's wife's end-zone, the least he could have done was let him do the same on the field. Josh might as well have gotten something for the embarrassment.

Simple Jaded
04-24-2016, 11:16 PM
i can't imagine losing all those games made him feel any better about it. . .

That's was his job and he did it well.

wayninja
04-24-2016, 11:48 PM
That's why I don't get it, I've never tweeted.

Most hot takes are the direct result of vigorous tweeting.

sneakers
04-25-2016, 12:40 AM
He is just good enough to keep around

Simple Jaded
04-25-2016, 12:56 AM
Most hot takes are the direct result of vigorous tweeting.

Then I'm mostly safe.

Tned
04-25-2016, 07:47 AM
Most hot takes are the direct result of vigorous tweeting.

Isn't Tweeting or posting #hottake or hot take in and of itself a hot take, which in return, deserves a response of hot take or #hottake, which creates an infinite loop that will never stop?

The use of the term hot take is the work of weak minds.

BroncoJoe
04-25-2016, 08:07 AM
The use of the term hot take is the work of weak minds.

So is tweeting, basically.

Tned
04-25-2016, 08:22 AM
So is tweeting, basically.

#hotttake

TXBRONC
04-25-2016, 08:51 AM
In response to Wave's bullshit, err hotttake, this guy did a pretty good job of chronicalling some of the many public feuds/pissing contests that McDaniels got into when he was in Denver.

Cutler
Marshall
Hillis
Scheffler
Offensive line
Mike Nolan (yea, not a player, but still)
I'm sure some I'm not thinking of or this guy didn't chronical

He also touches on his public incidents with Todd Haley and Saun Phillips.

Besides all of that, for the period when he was head coach, he almost never let his coaches talk to the media/beat reporters, it was all Josh all the time.

His behavior in publicly calling out players, punishing/humiliating them, etc., was more like you would expect to see if the the high school paper photographer was somehow given control of the varsity football team, and now wanted to "teach" those players that had tormented him. It wasn't just unprofessional, but juvenile.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/josh-mcdaniels-feud-history-jay-cutler-brandon-marshall-todd-haley/

There where two other incidences that I don't remember coming out until after McDaniels had been shit canned. He gave Ryan Harris a dressing down in front of his teammates. Harris was so pissed he walked out. Dawkins and couple of other guys chased after him got him calmed down and returned. Other incident I involved the entire coaching staff. After the beat down Denver took from the Raiders he took his entire staff into Bowlen's office and scream at them that it all their fault that they lost to tje Raiders. You don't take the entire staff before the owner and blame them for a loss and not own up to any resposibility.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
04-25-2016, 08:53 AM
He also blamed his first draft on not being prepared because he was just hired.
Maybe you should have listened to the Goodmans?

Tned
04-25-2016, 09:08 AM
He also blamed his first draft on not being prepared because he was just hired.
Maybe you should have listened to the Goodmans?

But, you know, he was a really good head coach, just ask Wave...

TXBRONC
04-25-2016, 09:09 AM
He also blamed his first draft on not being prepared because he was just hired.
Maybe you should have listened to the Goodmans?

From the time he was hired to the time and until the time he left he deflected blame to others.

TXBRONC
04-25-2016, 09:12 AM
But, you know, he was a really good head coach, just ask Wave...

This is a #hot cake. :D

Tned
04-25-2016, 09:14 AM
This is a #hot cake. :D

Let's start going with #flapjack instead.

BroncoWave
04-25-2016, 09:17 AM
The continue posting in this thread further proves my point that you guys are way more obsessed with my thoughts on mcd than I actually am with mcd. This is just too easy. :lol:

Tned
04-25-2016, 09:19 AM
The continue posting in this thread further proves my point that you guys are way more obsessed with my thoughts on mcd than I actually am with mcd. This is just too easy. :lol:

#flapjack

Nomad
04-25-2016, 10:04 AM
Good to see McManus remaining a BRONCO.

TXBRONC
04-25-2016, 04:22 PM
Let's start going with #flapjack instead.

I'm good with that.

When Wave it should be #flapjackswithsyrup

TXBRONC
04-25-2016, 04:33 PM
#flapjack

#flapjackswithsyrup