Which teams will draft which QBs in 2016?

[artie_dale]

Hey all, people do mock drafts and all of that and I think that takes a shit ton of work. What I propose, since it is a specific need of our Denver Broncos, lets do something a bit simpler.

Lets take a gander at which teams will draft which QBs and in which rounds.

Here is my thought:

The Browns Pass on Wentz and go best player and draft Ramsey...

SF takes Wentz

Rams take Goff

If NYJ does not get Fitz to resign, they may take Cook or Paxton Lynch.

If Paxton Lynch is available, I think AZ takes Lynch

I also expect Dallas to move back into the 2nd to take Prescott before Denver's pick (a precaution)

Denver lands Hackenberg with one of their 3rd rounders

P.S. If NYJ doesn't take Cook, I do not think AZ does and Cook falls out of the first 3 rounds

GO!

Round 1
PICK OVERALL TEAM
1 1 Tennessee
2 2 Cleveland
3 3 San Diego
4 4 Dallas
5 5 Jacksonville
6 6 Baltimore
7 7 San Francisco
8 8 Philadelphia from Miami
9 9 Tampa Bay
10 10 New York Giants
11 11 Chicago
12 12 New Orleans
13 13 Miami from Philadelphia
14 14 Oakland
15 15 Los Angeles
16 16 Detroit
17 17 Atlanta
18 18 Indianapolis
19 19 Buffalo
20 20 New York Jets
21 21 Washington
22 22 Houston
23 23 Minnesota
24 24 Cincinnati
25 25 Pittsburgh
26 26 Seattle
27 27 Green Bay
28 28 Kansas City
29 29 Arizona
30 30 Carolina
31 31 Denver

[CoachChaz]

Cleveland - Wentz
San Fran - Goff
LA Rams - Lynch
One of AZ, NYJ, KC - Cook

[underrated29]

Without a list of all the teams it is hard to say for certain.










Cleveland - Wentz
San Fran - Goff
LA Rams - Lynch
One of AZ, NYJ, KC - Cook

Arizona is definitely going to take a QB, early, I am confident.
KC- they will be looking hard as well. I will be upset if they take Hogan or Hackenberg, thats who I want us to take.
This, I def agree with this all the way.

[CoachChaz]

Without a list of all the teams it is hard to say for certain.










Arizona is definitely going to take a QB, early, I am confident.
KC- they will be looking hard as well. I will be upset if they take Hogan or Hackenberg, thats who I want us to take.
This, I def agree with this all the way.

If we want Hogan, we should have ample opportunities to take him. But if someone nabs him before the 5th round...they can have him.

[artie_dale]

Without a list of all the teams it is hard to say for certain.










Arizona is definitely going to take a QB, early, I am confident.
KC- they will be looking hard as well. I will be upset if they take Hogan or Hackenberg, thats who I want us to take.
This, I def agree with this all the way.

I added the first 1st round so you can get the gist of what the first few rounds should resemble.

[DenBronx]

All reports I have read say Goffs draft stock is climbing and so is Lynch. Guess Denver is going to get hosed because everyone else out of the big 3 are kinda just meh.

At that point, hopefully we can just pick up Fitzpatrick. With him on this team I think we can actually still be a real threat come January.

[NightTerror218]

All reports I have read say Goffs draft stock is climbing and so is Lynch. Guess Denver is going to get hosed because everyone else out of the big 3 are kinda just meh.

At that point, hopefully we can just pick up Fitzpatrick. With him on this team I think we can actually still be a real threat come January.

Don't forget Cook he is right there with Lynch

[Northman]

Realistically Goff, Wentz, Cook, and Lynch will be gone before Denver gets to draft. I wouldnt be sold on the Browns passing up on a prospect with a pick as high as they have since RGIII is an unknown for them. I really dont think they are going to put all their eggs into that particular basket.

[Valar Morghulis]

Realistically Goff, Wentz, Cook, and Lynch will be gone before Denver gets to draft. I wouldnt be sold on the Browns passing up on a prospect with a pick as high as they have since RGIII is an unknown for them. I really dont think they are going to put all their eggs into that particular basket.

Yeah, I am thinking even hackenberg will be gone by the time we have our second round pick.

[Valar Morghulis]

We need cook and company to smoke some pot, or maybe be part of a murder enquiry....

[Dzone]

We need cook and company to smoke some pot, or maybe be part of a murder enquiry....

Maybe he could try to board a plane with a loaded six shooter. That might be viewed favorably if he is a redneck

[artie_dale]

Realistically Goff, Wentz, Cook, and Lynch will be gone before Denver gets to draft. I wouldnt be sold on the Browns passing up on a prospect with a pick as high as they have since RGIII is an unknown for them. I really dont think they are going to put all their eggs into that particular basket.

But weren't all of these QBs considered "Projects" to begin with? As in Not First Year Starters? For that reason alone I don't think the Browns will spend their high pick on someone who needs a season to ride the pine when they can draft a day one starter in Ramsey. The Browns are rebuilding. They lost a lot of their starters because they are rebuilding.

These high top picks are usually spent on QBs that could be day one starters (Luck, RGIII (at the time), Cam Newton). The media is hyping these guys up so much, they are now being viewed and treated as if they are just that same crop of QBs (Lucks).

[CoachChaz]

But weren't all of these QBs considered "Projects" to begin with? As in Not First Year Starters? For that reason alone I don't think the Browns will spend their high pick on someone who needs a season to ride the pine when they can draft a day one starter in Ramsey. The Browns are rebuilding. They lost a lot of their starters because they are rebuilding.

These high top picks are usually spent on QBs that could be day one starters (Luck, RGIII (at the time), Cam Newton). The media is hyping these guys up so much, they are now being viewed and treated as if they are just that same crop of QBs (Lucks).

They have the benefit of not having to start a guy from day one and letting him sit behind RGIII for a season or two. Honestly, I dont think any of the QB's in this draft are ready to go right away.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

They have the benefit of not having to start a guy from day one and letting him sit behind RGIII for a season or two. Honestly, I dont think any of the QB's in this draft are ready to go right away.

They could do with Wentz what the Titans did with Mariot; keep it vanilla.

[CoachChaz]

They could do with Wentz what the Titans did with Mariot; keep it vanilla.

Definitely possible...but if I were a Browns fan, I'd prefer that RGIII be the sacrificial lamb behind what the OL is going to look like this year.

[Northman]

But weren't all of these QBs considered "Projects" to begin with? As in Not First Year Starters? For that reason alone I don't think the Browns will spend their high pick on someone who needs a season to ride the pine when they can draft a day one starter in Ramsey. The Browns are rebuilding. They lost a lot of their starters because they are rebuilding.

These high top picks are usually spent on QBs that could be day one starters (Luck, RGIII (at the time), Cam Newton). The media is hyping these guys up so much, they are now being viewed and treated as if they are just that same crop of QBs (Lucks).

I wouldnt call a QB rated in the first round as a project. I dont think GB saw Rodgers as a project when they drafted him but they did have the luxury to allow him to sit. Some teams (Wash,Indy) didnt have any kind of vet on their squad that the younger guys could learn from so they got thrown into the fire early. Even despite being a #1 selection Elway didnt start day one. Do i think the Browns should draft a QB in the first round? Not necessarily. But it wouldnt surprise me in the least if they did. Ideally no young QB should be considered a day one starter but QB's normally dont hit their stride until year 3 anyway. Now depending on how many draft picks the Browns have they may have the luxury to take a QB in the 2nd round like Denver did with Oz but then the talent level of QB is a lot less than the guys projected in the first. RGIII is inconsistent and very frail, he is about to enter a division in which the defenses do not take it easy on you so if im the Browns i would be VERY concerned about their backup plan at that position.

[artie_dale]

I wouldnt call a QB rated in the first round as a project. I dont think GB saw Rodgers as a project when they drafted him but they did have the luxury to allow him to sit. Some teams (Wash,Indy) didnt have any kind of vet on their squad that the younger guys could learn from so they got thrown into the fire early. Even despite being a #1 selection Elway didnt start day one. Do i think the Browns should draft a QB in the first round? Not necessarily. But it wouldnt surprise me in the least if they did. Ideally no young QB should be considered a day one starter but QB's normally dont hit their stride until year 3 anyway. Now depending on how many draft picks the Browns have they may have the luxury to take a QB in the 2nd round like Denver did with Oz but then the talent level of QB is a lot less than the guys projected in the first. RGIII is inconsistent and very frail, he is about to enter a division in which the defenses do not take it easy on you so if im the Browns i would be VERY concerned about their backup plan at that position.

That's not what I meant. Why are these guys rated first round QBs? Is it because they blew people away like Luck and Newton? Or is it because there are NFL teams with big needs at QB? I think it is the latter. That is why I honestly believe Cleveland will pass on Wentz with their pick. If SF is sold on Goff, Dallas & Rams will have a decision to make (Wentz or Lynch).

The way I view each of these QBs in this draft is below Dalton, Ryan, & Flacco. Each of those guys have been starters since they've been in the league (at least within a few weeks of the start of the season). Believing that, I actually think now that since Cleve has so many other needs to fill (they have their QBs in RGIII & McCown), they will go best player and possibly the best defensive player in the draft. Cleve even let go of their veteran Safety.

Now where it gets interesting is the teams that mostly only need a QB (SF, Dal, Rams, NYJ (D'Brickshaw just announced retirement so Fitz will likely sign back with them now due to freed up $$$), AZ, & Den.

If SF passes up on Wentz or Goff, I think Dallas or the Rams have to really consider those guys. I'm pretty sure though, that SF will draft the QB Chip wants and I still believe Dallas is high on Prescott and will wait to make a move in the late 2nd or 3rd.

[Northman]

That's not what I meant. Why are these guys rated first round QBs? Is it because they blew people away like Luck and Newton? Or is it because there are NFL teams with big needs at QB? I think it is the latter. That is why I honestly believe Cleveland will pass on Wentz with their pick. If SF is sold on Goff, Dallas & Rams will have a decision to make (Wentz or Lynch).



Well, the only problem with your logic here is if its based only on team needs than wouldnt that view apply to every other position ranked in the first round? At the end of the day because the way the draft is set up and the scouting that is done, the combine, etc they simply need a way to rate the potential prospects coming out of college. Everyone knows the draft is a crapshoot but they still need a way to define each players potential at the next level. Obviously the one thing that works against the guys like Goff, Wentz, etc is that more times than not the QB's in the first round normally dont pan out. Guys like Luck (who still needs to make strides himself) are a rarity. The Browns need help in other areas but none more than the QB position in my mind. Last year despite their record they were still able to hang with teams despite their poor QB play so again, im just not so sure they will automatically pass up a QB especially when you have 3-4 guys rated as first rounders. Im not sure Az will draft a QB but maybe i have missed something in the news because to my knowledge they still have Palmer. Im not really sure the team is willing to abandon him based off one bad game so i personally dont see the Cardinals drafting a QB in the first.

[artie_dale]

Well, the only problem with your logic here is if its based only on team needs than wouldnt that view apply to every other position ranked in the first round? At the end of the day because the way the draft is set up and the scouting that is done, the combine, etc they simply need a way to rate the potential prospects coming out of college. Everyone knows the draft is a crapshoot but they still need a way to define each players potential at the next level. Obviously the one thing that works against the guys like Goff, Wentz, etc is that more times than not the QB's in the first round normally dont pan out. Guys like Luck (who still needs to make strides himself) are a rarity. The Browns need help in other areas but none more than the QB position in my mind. Last year despite their record they were still able to hang with teams despite their poor QB play so again, im just not so sure they will automatically pass up a QB especially when you have 3-4 guys rated as first rounders. Im not sure Az will draft a QB but maybe i have missed something in the news because to my knowledge they still have Palmer. Im not really sure the team is willing to abandon him based off one bad game so i personally dont see the Cardinals drafting a QB in the first.

I think that is where we don't see eye-to-eye, is the Browns QB need. I don't entirely disagree with that, but with RGIII & McCown, I think they can go best player available. Now, I feel like I'm giving Cleveland the benefit of the doubt to do something they usually wouldn't do, which is go against the grain. The safe pick in their current situation is BPA.

[artie_dale]

This is pretty cool. It's just a small piece of the entire ESPN Insider article (I'm not an insider so this is just a link to the glimpse of the article ESPN teases us all with.


It's refreshing in this world of nervous, reactive NFL front offices to see a team operate as fearlessly and successfully as the Denver Broncos have with John Elway as general manager.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/14937766/john-elway-track-record-seeing-some-call-big-risks-work-just-fine-nfl

[Northman]

I think that is where we don't see eye-to-eye, is the Browns QB need. I don't entirely disagree with that, but with RGIII & McCown, I think they can go best player available. Now, I feel like I'm giving Cleveland the benefit of the doubt to do something they usually wouldn't do, which is go against the grain. The safe pick in their current situation is BPA.

I think that is another reason why they dont pass on QB. If your remember Detroit once went 3 straight drafts drafing a WR and we know how that played out. lol

[artie_dale]

I think that is another reason why they dont pass on QB. If your remember Detroit once went 3 straight drafts drafing a WR and we know how that played out. lol

Who was it... Roy Williams, Megatron... and who was that between them... Mike Williams?

[Northman]

Who was it... Roy Williams, Megatron... and who was that between them... Mike Williams?

Nah, i cant remember his name but he came from Michigan St if i remember.

[Northman]

Actually they did take Williams but they also took Rodgers in the same draft.

[artie_dale]

Actually they did take Williams but they also took Rodgers in the same draft.

ROGERS! That's it.

[artie_dale]

Oh, but that's when that had that other young QB prospect they drafted high. Ended up being a bust.

[artie_dale]

Joey harrington!

[artie_dale]

Joey harrington!

I didn't google that either. My mind!

[underrated29]

Hey all, people do mock drafts and all of that and I think that takes a shit ton of work. What I propose, since it is a specific need of our Denver Broncos, lets do something a bit simpler.

Lets take a gander at which teams will draft which QBs and in which rounds.

Here is my thought:

The Browns Pass on Wentz and go best player and draft Ramsey...

SF takes Wentz

Rams take Goff

If NYJ does not get Fitz to resign, they may take Cook or Paxton Lynch.

If Paxton Lynch is available, I think AZ takes Lynch

I also expect Dallas to move back into the 2nd to take Prescott before Denver's pick (a precaution)

Denver lands Hackenberg with one of their 3rd rounders

P.S. If NYJ doesn't take Cook, I do not think AZ does and Cook falls out of the first 3 rounds

GO!

Round 1
PICK OVERALL TEAM
1 1 Tennessee
2 2 Cleveland -YES
3 3 San Diego
4 4 Dallas - YES- MID RD QB
5 5 Jacksonville
6 6 Baltimore
7 7 San Francisco - YES
8 8 Philadelphia from Miami - YES
9 9 Tampa Bay
10 10 New York Giants
11 11 Chicago
12 12 New Orleans
13 13 Miami from Philadelphia
14 14 Oakland
15 15 Los Angeles - YES, BUT ONE WONT FALL TO THEM
16 16 Detroit - YES BUT 5TH RD ISH
17 17 Atlanta
18 18 Indianapolis
19 19 Buffalo- YES
20 20 New York Jets- 2ND/3RD RD
21 21 Washington
22 22 Houston
23 23 Minnesota
24 24 Cincinnati
25 25 Pittsburgh
26 26 Seattle
27 27 Green Bay
28 28 Kansas City- YES BUT 2ND RD
29 29 Arizona- YES
30 30 Carolina
31 31 Denver- YES




THOUGHTS IN ALL CAPS
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[NightTerror218]

I think QBS outside of top 2 will slip just like 2013 and 2014. Teams will draft immediate impact players over a QB that needs a year to develop. Could be a run on them at end of 1st and early 2nd rounds.

[artie_dale]

Round 1
PICK OVERALL TEAM
1 1 Los Angeles (Goff)
2 2 Philadelphia (Wentz)
3 3 San Diego
4 4 Dallas
5 5 Jacksonville
6 6 Baltimore
7 7 San Francisco
8 8 Cleveland from Miami (BPA)
9 9 Tampa Bay
10 10 New York Giants
11 11 Chicago
12 12 New Orleans
13 13 Miami from Philadelphia
14 14 Oakland
15 15 Tennessee
16 16 Detroit
17 17 Atlanta
18 18 Indianapolis
19 19 Buffalo
20 20 New York Jets
21 21 Washington
22 22 Houston
23 23 Minnesota
24 24 Cincinnati
25 25 Pittsburgh
26 26 Seattle
27 27 Green Bay
28 28 Kansas City
29 29 Arizona
30 30 Carolina
31 31 Denver

Since the Browns traded their #2 pick to Phili, I'm confident Phili will take Wentz.

My radar is paying attention to Paxton Lynch and who else needs a QB. I doubt SF takes him with the 7th (too early?), but they could trade down. If the Jets don't land Fitzpatrick or Hoyer (I think we take Hoyer for cheap), I think the teams that may target Lynch are SF, NYJ, & AZ, before Denver does.

[LTC Pain]

Round 1
PICK OVERALL TEAM
1 1 Los Angeles (Goff)
2 2 Philadelphia (Wentz)
3 3 San Diego
4 4 Dallas
5 5 Jacksonville
6 6 Baltimore
7 7 San Francisco
8 8 Cleveland from Miami (BPA)
9 9 Tampa Bay
10 10 New York Giants
11 11 Chicago
12 12 New Orleans
13 13 Miami from Philadelphia
14 14 Oakland
15 15 Tennessee
16 16 Detroit
17 17 Atlanta
18 18 Indianapolis
19 19 Buffalo
20 20 New York Jets
21 21 Washington
22 22 Houston
23 23 Minnesota
24 24 Cincinnati
25 25 Pittsburgh
26 26 Seattle
27 27 Green Bay
28 28 Kansas City
29 29 Arizona
30 30 Carolina
31 31 Denver

Since the Browns traded their #2 pick to Phili, I'm confident Phili will take Wentz.

My radar is paying attention to Paxton Lynch and who else needs a QB. I doubt SF takes him with the 7th (too early?), but they could trade down. If the Jets don't land Fitzpatrick or Hoyer (I think we take Hoyer for cheap), I think the teams that may target Lynch are SF, NYJ, & AZ, before Denver does.

If the Jets sign Hoyer then maybe Lynch will fall past #20. If so, I hope Elway trades up past the Cardinals at #29 to get Lynch. Unless, the Broncos don't think that highly of him. Who knows?

[artie_dale]

If the Jets sign Hoyer then maybe Lynch will fall past #20. If so, I hope Elway trades up past the Cardinals at #29 to get Lynch. Unless, the Broncos don't think that highly of him. Who knows?

I would rather we not trade up to get Lynch. If he doesn't fall to us, grab a decent OL or DL player and target Hackenberg in the later rounds.

[BroncoJoe]

I would rather we not trade up to get Lynch. If he doesn't fall to us, grab a decent OL or DL player and target Hackenberg in the later rounds.

No. Hogan.

[CoachChaz]

No. Hogan.

Yuck.

[NightTerror218]

Hogan and standford connect. Done deal.

[artie_dale]

No. Hogan.

I'm going to rewatch Hogan film. I don't recall why I didn't like him, only that I didn't like what I saw in him. Conner Cook too... I don't like him.

[NightTerror218]

People are assuming lynch is 3rd QB drafted, some analysis have cook higher.

I could see cook going before lynch if team wants immediate starter and can not sit lynch a year.

Broncos could snag cool at 31 or prescott on 2nd. And people will lose their minds.

[artie_dale]

Yeah, watch a few highlights and wasn't impressed. If throwing the ball to wide open rcvrs was impressive, he's the man. But, since throwing to wide open rcvrs is what a QB is supposed to do... meh.

[artie_dale]

People are assuming lynch is 3rd QB drafted, some analysis have cook higher.

I could see cook going before lynch if team wants immediate starter and can not sit lynch a year.

Broncos could snag cool at 31 or prescott on 2nd. And people will lose their minds.

I prefer Lynch & Prescott over Cook.

Cook doesn't seem as coachable as the other two. The other two have talents and skills that can be expanded upon. Cook isn't great at any one thing. He doesn't pass my eye test.

[BroncoJoe]

Yuck.

I haven't seen him play a game, other than a few highlights.

I do respect your college prospect prospective though. What's wrong with him? I believe he broke several of Luck's records at Stanford.

The Stanford connection doesn't hurt either...

[artie_dale]

I haven't seen him play a game, other than a few highlights.

I do respect your college prospect prospective though. What's wrong with him? I believe he broke several of Luck's records at Stanford.

The Stanford connection doesn't hurt either...

Yeah, Chaz, give us the lowdown.

[BroncoJoe]

Yeah, watch a few highlights and wasn't impressed. If throwing the ball to wide open rcvrs was impressive, he's the man. But, since throwing to wide open rcvrs is what a QB is supposed to do... meh.

Maybe, but the offense he ran at Stanford looks a lot like Kubiak's offense.

[DenBronx]

I personally think the Browns are terrified of drafting another QB in the 1st round.

[artie_dale]

So, Wentz & Goff go 1 & 2 (not sure which where). Does Lynch go to SF @ 7 or Cleve @8 or NYJ @ 20 or KC @ 27 or AZ @ 28?

And if Lynch goes to one of them, who is the next QB worth considering and are they worth considering @ 31?

I personally am not crazy about Cook, especially in the 1st round. But, the more I watch film on him, the more (very little) he has grown on me. I wouldn't mind him or Hack in the 3rd. I saw a mock draft said Cleve went BPA in the first and then drafted Cook with their 2nd rnd pick.

[artie_dale]

So, Wentz & Goff go 1 & 2 (not sure which where). Does Lynch go to SF @ 7 or Cleve @8 or NYJ @ 20 or KC @ 27 or AZ @ 28?

And if Lynch goes to one of them, who is the next QB worth considering and are they worth considering @ 31?

I personally am not crazy about Cook, especially in the 1st round. But, the more I watch film on him, the more (very little) he has grown on me. I wouldn't mind him or Hack in the 3rd. I saw a mock draft said Cleve went BPA in the first and then drafted Cook with their 2nd rnd pick.

Apparently, New Orleans is interested in Lynch at #12.