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Denver Native (Carol)
03-11-2016, 01:28 PM
Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis 1m

Broncos acquire Mark Sanchez from Philly for conditional draft pick. Process has begun #9news #9sports

artie_dale
03-11-2016, 01:29 PM
I started a thread as well. Please feel free to remove it.

chazoe60
03-11-2016, 01:30 PM
That's just stupid

turftoad
03-11-2016, 01:30 PM
I started a thread as well. Please feel free to remove it.

Done

turftoad
03-11-2016, 01:31 PM
Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis 1m

Broncos acquire Mark Sanchez from Philly for conditional draft pick. Process has begun #9news #9sports

WTF..... Noooooo!!

slim
03-11-2016, 01:31 PM
Oh my

Denver Native (Carol)
03-11-2016, 01:32 PM
Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis 31s

Mark Sanchez to Broncos for 2017 conditional draft pick no doubt based on play time/production #9news #9sports

Timmy!
03-11-2016, 01:32 PM
I would assume we are still going after Kap/rg3/fitz. If the plan is butt fumble and a rookie who probably won't be ready year 1, I will be afraid. Very afraid.

chazoe60
03-11-2016, 01:34 PM
If the plan is for Sanchez to be our starter then I take back all the nice things I said about Elway as a GM. Now Kaep seems like a dream.

weazel
03-11-2016, 01:35 PM
Lmmfao

artie_dale
03-11-2016, 01:35 PM
I would assume we are still going after Kap/rg3/fitz. If the plan is butt fumble and a rookie who probably won't be ready year 1, I will be afraid. Very afraid.

Nah. Sanchez is paid as a backup in Phili. He's just the gap filler until we can move in the draft to possibly draft PAXTON LYNCH (I'm hopeful). A conditional draft pick tells me that if Sanchez sucks, we ain't giving up a high pick, and since Elway stuck to his guns about giving up anything to high for Kaep, if Sanchez does decent, we still ain't giving up high pick. I think this is a safe move, even though I do not like Sanchez. Not even a little bit.

Joel
03-11-2016, 01:36 PM
"Conditional draft pick" says it all, IMHO:

"If you give us Sanchez we'll give you our next 2nd round pick if he plays >50% of 2016 (which there's no chance in HELL we'll let him do. :))"

slim
03-11-2016, 01:36 PM
If the plan is for Sanchez to be our starter then I take back all the nice things I said about Elway as a GM. Now Kaep seems like a dream.

There are no good options, Chaz.

artie_dale
03-11-2016, 01:38 PM
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/mark-sanchez/

One year left under current contract and it's super cheap.



YEAR----------------------------------AGE----BASE SALARY-----SIGNING BONUS--------WORKOUT BONUS---------MISC.--------CAP HIT-------DEAD CAP
2015--Contract details by year-------28----$2,500,000--------$1,000,000-----------------------------------------$250,000------$3,750,000----$5,500,000
2016--Contract details by year-------29----$4,500,000--------$1,000,000---------------------------------------------------------$5,500,000 $2,000,000
2017 Free Agent Year-----------------30------UFA

MOtorboat
03-11-2016, 01:38 PM
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Denver Native (Carol)
03-11-2016, 01:38 PM
If the rumors are correct, Kap wants to play in Cleveland, and rg3 wants to play in SF.

Davii
03-11-2016, 01:38 PM
Well, he did beat out Tebow to keep the starting job. At least there's that. :lol:

CoachChaz
03-11-2016, 01:39 PM
Before everyone has a heart attack...Sanchez is being brought in to "compete". Elway probably doesnt feel all warm and fuzzy having Siemian as a true back-up...and rightfully so.

MOtorboat
03-11-2016, 01:40 PM
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Denver Native (Carol)
03-11-2016, 01:41 PM
People keep saying that the Broncos just need a QB who is a game manager. Can Sanchez do that, can Siemien do that, we just might see.

slim
03-11-2016, 01:42 PM
Well at least Mo is gay for this move.

weazel
03-11-2016, 01:43 PM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/L9W5xFp-cmY/hqdefault.jpg

Dreadnought
03-11-2016, 01:43 PM
Its now to the point I am afraid to refresh my PFT window, for fear of some fresh new 2016 offseason nightmare. Yep, we signed Mark Sanchez. Of course we did. Why not, after all?

Timmy!
03-11-2016, 01:44 PM
http://img.pandawhale.com/61024-Mark-Sanchez-butt-fumble-gif-xDAf.gif

Denver Native (Carol)
03-11-2016, 01:44 PM
Sanchez is signed at a reasonable backup rate ($4.5 million), and it seems reasonable to think the Broncos are still looking for a starter.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/03/11/broncos-trade-eagles-a-draft-pick-for-mark-sanchez/

artie_dale
03-11-2016, 01:44 PM
"Conditional draft pick" says it all, IMHO:

"If you give us Sanchez we'll give you our next 2nd round pick if he plays >50% of 2016 (which there's no chance in HELL we'll let him do. :))"

LOL! In Mr. Burns' voice "Excellent."

NightTerror218
03-11-2016, 01:44 PM
This means Kaep was too steep and not willing to restructure. Another cheap QB will prob come in as well to compete. Sanchez was prob a 6th round and maybe 5th if he plays great.

Ensures we draft a new QB this year.

Davii
03-11-2016, 01:44 PM
Well at least Mo is gay for this move.

8729?

VonDoom
03-11-2016, 01:45 PM
The Sanchize!

In all seriousness, he's not good, as we all know. But a) he's cheap and b) he was productive in 2010/11 when the Jets went to back to back AFCCG. Those teams had great defenses and he was a game manager. He should be fine in a system where we run the ball a lot behind a good o-line. Of course, our line isn't good and we have no RB's on the roster, but we can always hope!

slim
03-11-2016, 01:45 PM
8729?

ALL aboard

VonDoom
03-11-2016, 01:46 PM
Listen to the man himself:

John Elway ‏@johnelway 32s33 seconds ago

Acquired QB Mark Sanchez for a conditional '17 pick. He brings veteran leadership & will compete. This is the 1st step in our process.

CoachChaz
03-11-2016, 01:47 PM
This means Kaep was too steep and not willing to restructure. Another cheap QB will prob come in as well to compete. Sanchez was prob a 6th round and maybe 5th if he plays great.

Ensures we draft a new QB this year.

The latest word is that Kaep and the Broncos were able to agree on a contract...but the Broncos and Niners were unable to agree on draft pick compensation....and the Browns and Niners are able to agree on draft pick comp, but not on contract terms with Kaep.

VonDoom
03-11-2016, 01:47 PM
Schefter says conditional 7th rounder. So basically, nothing except his salary.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
03-11-2016, 01:48 PM
Listen to the man himself:

John Elway ‏@johnelway 32s33 seconds ago

Acquired QB Mark Sanchez for a conditional '17 pick. He brings veteran leadership & will compete. This is the 1st step in our process.
Exactly, we could still get Kap, draft Prescott and move Simien back to the practice squad

MOtorboat
03-11-2016, 01:48 PM
This means Kaep was too steep and not willing to restructure. Another cheap QB will prob come in as well to compete. Sanchez was prob a 6th round and maybe 5th if he plays great.

Ensures we draft a new QB this year.

It doesn't really say any of that.

tubby
03-11-2016, 01:48 PM
I had him in my mock.

slim
03-11-2016, 01:50 PM
I had him in my mock.

Is he better than TJ Yates

Timmy!
03-11-2016, 01:51 PM
A veteran backup for peanuts isn't exactly a horrible move.

Joel
03-11-2016, 01:51 PM
Schefter says conditional 7th rounder. So basically, nothing except his salary.
Basically what Houston gave us for Clark. That's kind of funny, especially since Clark was far more likely to meet the conditions than Sanchez is.

MOtorboat
03-11-2016, 01:51 PM
Is he better than TJ Yates

He has quadruple the number of playoff wins that Yates and Cutler have.

GEM
03-11-2016, 01:52 PM
Oh **** yea....:championship:

:screwy:

slim
03-11-2016, 01:53 PM
He has quadruple the number of playoff wins that Yates and Cutler have.

And Tebow

artie_dale
03-11-2016, 01:53 PM
My approach to this next season is that if we win the division, that's a bonus (new QB, new personnel, upgraded Raiders team). If we make it further than that then that is a super bonus.

So with that, we need to build. Our Defense will keep us in the mix, but the chances that they are as good as they were last season are slim. I'm okay with it.

I'm thinking since Sanchez is currently so cheap, I think Elway trades up in this draft to get one of the QBs (I hope it's Paxton Lynch). Just made this draft that much more interesting for me.

chazoe60
03-11-2016, 01:54 PM
Elway is just trying to buy the Hispanic vote.

ShaneFalco
03-11-2016, 01:54 PM
This is a joke right? we seriously have butt fumble on this team?

dogfish
03-11-2016, 01:54 PM
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slim
03-11-2016, 01:55 PM
A veteran backup for peanuts isn't exactly a horrible move.

This is true.

The Sanchez train is leaving the station

CoachChaz
03-11-2016, 01:56 PM
My approach to this next season is that if we win the division, that's a bonus (new QB, new personnel, upgraded Raiders team). If we make it further than that then that is a super bonus.

So with that, we need to build. Our Defense will keep us in the mix, but the chances that they are as good as they were last season are slim. I'm okay with it.

I'm thinking since Sanchez is currently so cheap, I think Elway trades up in this draft to get one of the QBs (I hope it's Paxton Lynch). Just made this draft that much more interesting for me.

Only problem there is Sanchez has one year left and most scouts think Lynch needs 2 years to develop. I still think another QB is brought in and if we're lucky enough to draft Lynch for development, then we can dump Siemian.

artie_dale
03-11-2016, 01:57 PM
And, Denver was officially awarded a 3rd, 4th, & 6th round compensatory draft picks. More to move up in the draft with.

Joel
03-11-2016, 01:58 PM
And, Denver was officially awarded a 3rd, 4th, & 6th round compensatory draft picks. More to move up in the draft with.
STILL can't trade comp picks till 2017. ;)

Timmy!
03-11-2016, 01:58 PM
And, Denver was officially awarded a 3rd, 4th, & 6th round compensatory draft picks. More to move up in the draft with.

Can't trade them this year.

ShaneFalco
03-11-2016, 01:58 PM
well this off season officially sucks

https://media1.giphy.com/media/48yJdqxl7wzL2/200.gif

Timmy!
03-11-2016, 01:59 PM
Only problem there is Sanchez has one year left and most scouts think Lynch needs 2 years to develop. I still think another QB is brought in and if we're lucky enough to draft Lynch for development, then we can dump Siemian.

This is my line of thinking as well.

artie_dale
03-11-2016, 01:59 PM
STILL can't trade comp picks till 2017. ;)

What? Those comp picks are for 2016. Why would we want to trade 2016 picks in 2017?

VonDoom
03-11-2016, 01:59 PM
This is a joke right? we seriously have butt fumble on this team?

The Rams? No.

Timmy!
03-11-2016, 02:00 PM
well this off season officially sucks

https://media1.giphy.com/media/48yJdqxl7wzL2/200.gif

3 pages slow smokey.

artie_dale
03-11-2016, 02:01 PM
Can't trade them this year.

What I mean was, we have more picks, a couple picks in a few rounds, so we can trade our original picks and the comp picks will offset those picks. Did I miss something? Because I feel like I did.

Timmy!
03-11-2016, 02:03 PM
What I mean was, we have more picks, a couple picks in a few rounds, so we can trade our original picks and the comp picks will offset those picks. Did I miss something? Because I feel like I did.

I kinda figured that's what you meant, but the way it was worded implied the comp picks were "ammo" for this year.

ShaneFalco
03-11-2016, 02:05 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdSd7rfVIAAKpli.jpg:large

GEM
03-11-2016, 02:08 PM
Awww look, Denver's first gay qb. :tape:

Ravage!!!
03-11-2016, 02:08 PM
CHEAP!! That's all that matters. We didn't need anyone other than to just take snaps, anyway.

Davii
03-11-2016, 02:09 PM
Anyone know his 3 cone time?

Who is the girl in the bottom right photo? Does she come with the deal?

If so...

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Davii
03-11-2016, 02:10 PM
Awww look, Denver's first gay qb. :tape:

No, that happened a few years ago with that Tebow guy.

artie_dale
03-11-2016, 02:10 PM
Saw a theory on reddit r/broncos.

The theory is that Chip Kelly apparently still fancies Mark Sanchez, so Elway may be using Sanchez as a piece of the trade puzzle to avoid giving SF a 2nd or 3rd pick for Kaep. It's not a stretch imo.

Ravage!!!
03-11-2016, 02:10 PM
This means Kaep was too steep and not willing to restructure. Another cheap QB will prob come in as well to compete. Sanchez was prob a 6th round and maybe 5th if he plays great.

Ensures we draft a new QB this year.

That's not what this means at all.

GEM
03-11-2016, 02:12 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdSd7rfVIAAKpli.jpg:large

Now our qb has pics that match with Brady.

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Davii
03-11-2016, 02:12 PM
Saw a theory on reddit r/broncos.

The theory is that Chip Kelly apparently still fancies Mark Sanchez, so Elway may be using Sanchez as a piece of the trade puzzle to avoid giving SF a 2nd or 3rd pick for Kaep. It's not a stretch imo.

Trade him straight across for Kaep. That would be awesome, he never plays a down for us so we don't have to give up anything for the conditional pick... Elway would instantly increase his GM street cred.

artie_dale
03-11-2016, 02:12 PM
I would rather just keep Sanchez (ugh) on the cheap and draft a young QB, instead of still acquire Kaep and make him our franchise QB.

ShaneFalco
03-11-2016, 02:13 PM
708363263889661952

The comments are hilarious

D1g1tal j1m
03-11-2016, 02:16 PM
Can't wait to get my DVD of this past Superbowl Season and play it on a loop to help drown out this offseason of pain...

artie_dale
03-11-2016, 02:17 PM
Trade him straight across for Kaep. That would be awesome, he never plays a down for us so we don't have to give up anything for the conditional pick... Elway would instantly increase his GM street cred.

That would still come with Kaep's price (which isn't unreasonable). I do think Sanchez's production is comparable to Kaep's & RGIII's. Just a matter of deciding to make a move to pay more for similar production or keep Sanchez on the cheap and get similar production.

Joel
03-11-2016, 02:18 PM
What I mean was, we have more picks, a couple picks in a few rounds, so we can trade our original picks and the comp picks will offset those picks. Did I miss something? Because I feel like I did.
Ah, OK, that's actually not bad logic then: Comp picks are at the end of the round, but we're ALREADY picking at the end of the round (except for the 4th, where we've already traded away our pick.) So trade our natural pick and use a comp pick that's practically the same spot anyway.

In fact, that's EXACTLY what NE* did with its 3rd round natural and comp picks last year:



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Cleveland Browns (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Cleveland_Browns_season)
Xavier Cooper (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xavier_Cooper)
DT (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tackle_(American_football)#Defensive_tackle)
Washington State (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Washington_State_Cougars_football_team)
Pac-12 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pac-12_Conference)
from New England (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_New_England_Patriots_season) [R3 - 11] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_NFL_draft#cite_note-54)


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New England Patriots (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_New_England_Patriots_season)
Geneo Grissom (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneo_Grissom)
DE (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_end)
Oklahoma (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Oklahoma_Sooners_football_team)
Big 12 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_12_Conference)



They gave up a SINGLE spot and a late 7th rounder in exchange for a 4th, 5th AND 6th mid-round pick. If Elway can pull off the same after OUR SB win, great.

NightTerror218
03-11-2016, 02:19 PM
That's not what this means at all.

He has been in close talks with Kaep and then it stalls and bam a new QB.

This has been what he does works multi angles at one time and if one does not work he takes the other. DRC and Talib was this way. Allen and ware was this was. Looks like the exact same scenario to me. Go for trade for Kaep while working with other QB, one did not work so he went with other. Sanchez has 1 year left on contract, to me that means draft a new QB.

Buff
03-11-2016, 02:21 PM
I'm just glad we didn't have to downgrade in handsomeness from Brock.

Ravage!!!
03-11-2016, 02:22 PM
I would rather just keep Sanchez (ugh) on the cheap and draft a young QB, instead of still acquire Kaep and make him our franchise QB.

Lets not exaggerate the role of Kaep ths early. One, he's young so that if he DOES turn things around, we could have a good QB for years. If not, we still can draft a QB. But there is no reason to think the signing Kaep makes him our "Franchise" QB by any means.

artie_dale
03-11-2016, 02:26 PM
CHEAP!! That's all that matters. We didn't need anyone other than to just take snaps, anyway.

Check this out! If we keep Sanchez for his final season at that price ($4.5M?), we can use the $10M saved from not acquire Kaep to shore up Von Miller and extend B-Marsh AND Draft Paxton Lynch.

artie_dale
03-11-2016, 02:27 PM
ah, ok, that's actually not bad logic then: Comp picks are at the end of the round, but we're already picking at the end of the round (except for the 4th, where we've already traded away our pick.) so trade our natural pick and use a comp pick that's practically the same spot anyway.

In fact, that's exactly what ne* did with its 3rd round natural and comp picks last year:



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cleveland browns (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_cleveland_browns_season)
xavier cooper (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/xavier_cooper)
dt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/tackle_(american_football)#defensive_tackle)
washington state (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_washington_state_cougars_football_team)
pac-12 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/pac-12_conference)
from new england (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_new_england_patriots_season) [r3 - 11] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_nfl_draft#cite_note-54)


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new england patriots (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_new_england_patriots_season)
geneo grissom (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/geneo_grissom)
de (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/defensive_end)
oklahoma (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_oklahoma_sooners_football_team)
big 12 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/big_12_conference)




they gave up a single spot and a late 7th rounder in exchange for a 4th, 5th and 6th mid-round pick. If elway can pull off the same after our sb win, great.

yup yup.

Edmonton Bronco Fan
03-11-2016, 02:29 PM
You can not make this shit up. Nobody wants Sanchez on their team. Nobody.

VonDoom
03-11-2016, 02:29 PM
Saw a theory on reddit r/broncos.

The theory is that Chip Kelly apparently still fancies Mark Sanchez, so Elway may be using Sanchez as a piece of the trade puzzle to avoid giving SF a 2nd or 3rd pick for Kaep. It's not a stretch imo.

Couldn't the Niners just have given up peanuts to get Sanchez from the Eagles directly? Or are they assuming that the Eagles want no part of trading with Kelly?

artie_dale
03-11-2016, 02:32 PM
Couldn't the Niners just have given up peanuts to get Sanchez from the Eagles directly? Or are they assuming that the Eagles want no part of trading with Kelly?

I have no idea. I can't take credit for the theory.

tomjonesrocks
03-11-2016, 02:36 PM
Just ordered my custom Elite Sanchize jersey.

I'm in butt fumble's corner.

Lancane
03-11-2016, 02:36 PM
Smart move by the Broncos. Everyone seems to forget that Sanchez ran a run first offense with a good defense that went to back to back AFC Championships. He's not a Superstar, but a game manager with a good arm, he either ends up a stopgap or as the backup. As to the trade theory, Baalke is the GM, no way do they trade Kaepernik who has value straight across for Sanchez, no matter what Chip wants...Denver would still have to give up a pretty good pick.

MOtorboat
03-11-2016, 02:38 PM
The Sanchise.

ShaneFalco
03-11-2016, 02:41 PM
4.5m for a bunch of turnovers.... what could go wrong..

Ravage!!!
03-11-2016, 02:43 PM
4.5m for a bunch of turnovers.... what could go wrong..

He's cheap though. Ask ninja, this is all we need.

Ravage!!!
03-11-2016, 02:46 PM
Check this out! If we keep Sanchez for his final season at that price ($4.5M?), we can use the $10M saved from not acquire Kaep to shore up Von Miller and extend B-Marsh AND Draft Paxton Lynch.

yeah.. and? I have zero faith in Lynch becoming a franchise QB.

Plus, we already have the money to do all that, already.

Davii
03-11-2016, 02:47 PM
4.5m for a bunch of turnovers.... what could go wrong..

You're against this move?

Given your obvious lack of QB evaluation skills this could turn out to be a big win.

artie_dale
03-11-2016, 02:50 PM
yeah.. and? I have zero faith in Lynch becoming a franchise QB.

Plus, we already have the money to do all that, already.

That's fair. I think I need to take a step back from becoming a Lynch Homer. Rational me knows this QB crop isn't one to go bonkers over. The football fan in me (the irrational one) gets giddy about the thoughts of making a splash in the draft.

BroncoJoe
03-11-2016, 02:50 PM
I'm just glad we didn't have to downgrade in handsomeness from Brock.

He is an attractive fellow.

Sincerely,

Nut/Agap

MOtorboat
03-11-2016, 02:51 PM
4.5m for a bunch of turnovers.... what could go wrong..

I don't think anyone ideally thinks he's the opening day starter.

That said, I'm not totally against that idea.

BroncoJoe
03-11-2016, 02:52 PM
4.5m for a bunch of turnovers.... what could go wrong..

Winning the Superbowl was fantastic!

Sincerely,

PFM

EastCoastBronco
03-11-2016, 02:53 PM
Dirty Sanchez.
Jesus wept...

ShaneFalco
03-11-2016, 02:56 PM
http://stylepantry.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/stylepantrymarksanchez2.jpg

underrated29
03-11-2016, 02:58 PM
Its funny, I just said this morning that I would like Sanchez. THink he can do as good or better job than brock for us.

And sure enough we trade for him. lol.


Dont mind this move at all. Better than Simien starting for us.

NightTerror218
03-11-2016, 02:59 PM
1 year left on contract. He can not be worse then what we had last year.

Gives a new rookie a year.

ShaneFalco
03-11-2016, 03:03 PM
i am not even mad. I am depressed.

BroncoJoe
03-11-2016, 03:03 PM
8LL8FHwqDTs

Lancane
03-11-2016, 03:10 PM
He could well end up being our version of Fitzpatrick.

Davii
03-11-2016, 03:10 PM
i am not even mad. I am depressed.

Yeah, this really sucks being Super Bowl Champions. Man, I hate having to trust that guy that took our franchise from a dumpster fire of a coach and roster to two Super Bowls and one Championship in five years. How damn depressing. I can't even imagine how depressing it will be if we do well this year, nevermind figuring out a way to win another Super Bowl, people might start jumping off bridges around here.

artie_dale
03-11-2016, 03:13 PM
8LL8FHwqDTs

In my personal opinion, to be "Clutch" wouldn't result in going into that many over times. Right?

BroncoJoe
03-11-2016, 03:15 PM
He could well end up being our version of Fitzpatrick.

But a hell of a lot cheaper.

He is the next Jake the Snake. Descent athletic ability, good arm and accuracy. Kubiak will make him a star.

Or we'll get someone else. WTF do I know?

TXBRONC
03-11-2016, 03:16 PM
Since I have not found any posts that come right out and said it I will. This was one butt ugly trade. :lol:


Seriously, it's actually a little better than getting Fitzpatrick and as others have I think this all but assures Denver drafting another quarterback.

artie_dale
03-11-2016, 03:18 PM
But a hell of a lot cheaper.

He is the next Jake the Snake. Descent athletic ability, good arm and accuracy. Kubiak will make him a star.

Or we'll get someone else. WTF do I know?

I agree. He can still play. Hell, wouldn't it be something if his time under Chip Kelly and the speediness of Chip's offense makes adjusting to a Kubiak offense easier for him to do? Its possible.

Dzone
03-11-2016, 03:18 PM
Great pick up! Super Bowl 51 here we come!!!

Tned
03-11-2016, 03:23 PM
Of course this happens when I'm on a plane at a jetway, with no cell reception. I wanted to be the first to ask if this was a "chainsaw" worthy signing.... :eek:

artie_dale
03-11-2016, 03:25 PM
of course this happens when i'm on a plane at a jetway, with no cell reception. I wanted to be the first to ask if this was a "chainsaw" worthy signing.... :eek:

ha ha ha ha ha ha

Nomad
03-11-2016, 03:29 PM
This is when you give Elway one of those looks:suspicious:, but I have to trust him and his magic.

Lancane
03-11-2016, 03:29 PM
He comes at a solid price too, and probably his agent and Broncos talking extension for an extra year or two, Von Miller can get his deal done, they can either retain Anderson or go after another tailback now. With Kaepernick looking at around 13 mil. same with Fitzpatrick.

TXBRONC
03-11-2016, 03:30 PM
Of course this happens when I'm on a plane at a jetway, with no cell reception. I wanted to be the first to ask if this was a "chainsaw" worthy signing.... :eek:

Idk but I heard that Dog and her dad went over to her house and took away all sharps including the chainsaw and all her ammo just as a precaution.

artie_dale
03-11-2016, 03:30 PM
He comes at a solid price too, and probably his agent and Broncos talking extension for an extra year or two, Von Miller can get his deal done, they can either retain Anderson or go after another tailback now. With Kaepernick looking at around 13 mil. same with Fitzpatrick.

Lets bring in Alfred Morris. He'd compliment a Kubiak offense.

TXBRONC
03-11-2016, 03:32 PM
He comes at a solid price too, and probably his agent and Broncos talking extension for an extra year or two, Von Miller can get his deal done, they can either retain Anderson or go after another tailback now. With Kaepernick looking at around 13 mil. same with Fitzpatrick.

I could see Elway doing this right away.

Lancane
03-11-2016, 03:35 PM
Morris or Foster, maybe both. Sanchez gives Broncos breathing room. I think they either draft Lynch or Cook, they may well consider trading day up for Wentz who they are real high on. Nothing would surprise me. But I like the Sanchez signing a lot more then adding Kaepernick or RGIII, though would have been okay with Fitzpatrick coming here.

VonDoom
03-11-2016, 03:42 PM
Barnwell says:


As for the Broncos, while it's easy to turn Sanchez into a punchline, the reality is that he was probably the highest-floor quarterback available to them. They're not done shopping at quarterback, given that they could still add Colin Kaepernick or Robert Griffin III, but Sanchez is a upper-echelon backup and a reasonable emergency starter. It's hard to even argue that this is a significant downgrade for the Broncos at quarterback, given that they spent most of last year trotting out (and winning with) a very limited Peyton Manning at quarterback.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14932572/grading-big-free-agent-deals-nfl

artie_dale
03-11-2016, 03:52 PM
Morris or Foster, maybe both. Sanchez gives Broncos breathing room. I think they either draft Lynch or Cook, they may well consider trading day up for Wentz who they are real high on. Nothing would surprise me. But I like the Sanchez signing a lot more then adding Kaepernick or RGIII, though would have been okay with Fitzpatrick coming here.

I think Fitz would have come at the same price as RGIII & Kaep. I like the deal we got.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
03-11-2016, 03:53 PM
That's just what I was thinking....even Sanchez could play better than what we saw last year. He probably has better pocket awareness than Brock as well.

Denver Native (Carol)
03-11-2016, 03:56 PM
Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis 12m

Since 2014: Sanchez 13 GP, 18 TD, 86.6 passer RTG; Osweiler 11 GP, 11 TD, 86.6 RTG. You can look it up #9news #9sports

GEM
03-11-2016, 03:57 PM
Nah, not chainsaw worthy. We got him cheap with a cheap contract to deal with. Not bad for a backup....now if he's the starter and we do nothing else, we may need to revisit this decision. ;)

VonDoom
03-11-2016, 03:59 PM
Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis 12m

Since 2014: Sanchez 13 GP, 18 TD, 86.6 passer RTG; Osweiler 11 GP, 11 TD, 86.6 RTG. You can look it up #9news #9sports

Sanchez has also thrown 15 INT in that time period, which is my only real concern. Part of that was the up tempo Kelly offense. He's actually better suited to run the kind of scheme we want to run, similar to his early success with the Jets. I think he's actually better now than when he played for them.

We could do a lot worse for a veteran backup, that's for sure. As a starter? I don't see it yet, but it is just one piece as Elway said.

Ravage!!!
03-11-2016, 04:02 PM
Hmmm... a revisiting of the vagina.

GEM
03-11-2016, 04:03 PM
Hmmm... a revisiting of the vagina.

I'll never live that comment down. :laugh:

Lancane
03-11-2016, 04:06 PM
We have little cap space, very little and I would rather have a stopgap Sanchez then a brokeback headcase in RGIII or Kaepernick, we have to solidify the defensive end position, offensive line and run game. All which were of far more importance in our Super Bowl run.

Ravage!!!
03-11-2016, 04:06 PM
I'll never live that comment down. :laugh:

Hah.. no you won't. But it does let our minds wander. :D

Northman
03-11-2016, 04:07 PM
I would assume we are still going after Kap/rg3/fitz. If the plan is butt fumble and a rookie who probably won't be ready year 1, I will be afraid. Very afraid.

Lol, Sanchez is really no worse than the other guys we have been looking at. The QB position this year is going to be questionable anyway no matter if its a rookie or one of the B and C rate players we've been hearing about. If people honestly believe players like Kap or RGIII are going to flourish in Denver they are smoking a lot of crack. When Sanchez has had a great defense he has at least been able to make it to a pair of AFCCG's in the process. The reality is Denver's long term future QB probably wont materialize for a couple of years.

GEM
03-11-2016, 04:08 PM
Hah.. no you won't. But it does let our minds wander. :D

Well then, you're welcome. :heh:

OrangeHoof
03-11-2016, 04:08 PM
If he's the backup, I'm okay with this. The question is whether we draft a QB to develop or bring in a better QB to start. Still hoping for Fitzpatrick as a 1-2 year fix.

NightTerror218
03-11-2016, 04:15 PM
If he's the backup, I'm okay with this. The question is whether we draft a QB to develop or bring in a better QB to start. Still hoping for Fitzpatrick as a 1-2 year fix.

Teams who were talking to Fitz are now talking with others.

Jets are bring RG3 in.

Lancane
03-11-2016, 04:19 PM
If he's the backup, I'm okay with this. The question is whether we draft a QB to develop or bring in a better QB to start. Still hoping for Fitzpatrick as a 1-2 year fix.

Problem is Fitzpatrick wants 13 mil. a season, not 7 to 9 as the Jets are offering, and RGIII might be willing to take that to reboot his career, whereas Kaepernick will be looking for similar to Fitzpatrick money. Osweiler's deal, the one he got from Houston would have killed our cap, we may restructure to open a few million up with Clady and Ware, but outside quarterback we still have to solidify a roster. I say go with Sanchez, Siemien and either Lynch or Cook, maybe one of the top two...but our franchise quarterback will likely be our draftee or Siemien, those who want him to have a shot should love this move.

tubby
03-11-2016, 04:19 PM
LAST TWO YEARS

Mark Sanchez: 13 games, 18 TD's, 86.6 rating - $4.5 million
Brock Osweiler: 12 games, 11 TD's, 86.6 Rating - $18 million

tomjonesrocks
03-11-2016, 04:20 PM
Its funny, I just said this morning that I would like Sanchez. THink he can do as good or better job than brock for us. And sure enough we trade for him. lol. Dont mind this move at all. Better than Simien starting for us.

Sanchize > Fainting Goat

Timmy!
03-11-2016, 04:21 PM
Sanchize > Fainting Goat

This is true.

ShaneFalco
03-11-2016, 04:22 PM
Yeah, this really sucks being Super Bowl Champions. Man, I hate having to trust that guy that took our franchise from a dumpster fire of a coach and roster to two Super Bowls and one Championship in five years. How damn depressing. I can't even imagine how depressing it will be if we do well this year, nevermind figuring out a way to win another Super Bowl, people might start jumping off bridges around here.

ok well what tangible evidence do you have that makes you think Denver will repeat ??

other then "trust in elway".

We cant let a core group of guys walk and say to Von/Cj/whoever "we used the money to sign sanchez"

MOtorboat
03-11-2016, 04:24 PM
ok well what tangible evidence do you have that makes you think Denver will repeat ??

other then "trust in elway".

We cant let a core group of guys walk and say to Von "we used the money to sign sanchez"

Von Miller, DeMarcus Ware, Shane Ray and Shaq Barrett.

Ravage!!!
03-11-2016, 04:26 PM
LAST TWO YEARS

Mark Sanchez: 13 games, 18 TD's, 86.6 rating - $4.5 million
Brock Osweiler: 12 games, 11 TD's, 86.6 Rating - $18 million


Wait.. 12 games? So they are including the game he came in for about 2 snaps, or kneeled down, into the statistics??? Then, they are only including 13 games of Sanchez... which 13 games?

This is the funny thing about stats and people wanting them to tell a story. They can be soooo misleading. Also shows that teams are willing to pay for potential as opposed to paying for a known product.

ShaneFalco
03-11-2016, 04:30 PM
Von Miller, DeMarcus Ware, Shane Ray and Shaq Barrett.

will be harder to get Ware to restructure and Von to sign a long term deal without adding more money now.

Do broncos negotiate contracts during the season?

Or are they like the Steelers who only do it in the offseason? I forget. DT had his coming out of camp, if i can remember correctly.

Lancane
03-11-2016, 04:31 PM
Von Miller, DeMarcus Ware, Shane Ray and Shaq Barrett.

Exactly, Sanchez can do what Manning/Brock did as far as offense, if not do better. They can give Von his big payday now, go after a veteran tailback, add cheaper veterans to solidify the roster...but our core reason for being Champions Von, Ware, Wolfe, Sly, Harris, Steward, Ward, Roby and Talib...they are all still here. Marshall might even be retained because the money Sanchez unlike other options gives the team.

wayninja
03-11-2016, 04:34 PM
If this hasn't been posted yet, let me just be the first to say:

H07zYvkNYL8

BigDaddyBronco
03-11-2016, 04:37 PM
Somewhere Claymore is having a coronary.

Ravage!!!
03-11-2016, 04:37 PM
If this hasn't been posted yet, let me just be the first to say:

H07zYvkNYL8

???? I thought all we needed was someone to take snaps and let the defense win again? Why wouldn't you be right on board with this, this is exactly what you were wanting.

Mike
03-11-2016, 04:39 PM
I would rather have Colquitt be the QB.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k145/bubba_thudd/Ef9q8_zps8f29762a.gif (http://s87.photobucket.com/user/bubba_thudd/media/Ef9q8_zps8f29762a.gif.html)

Lancane
03-11-2016, 04:40 PM
What happened to "In Elway we Trust", guess the moniker is only good when certain fans agree with the moves being made.

wayninja
03-11-2016, 04:40 PM
???? I thought all we needed was someone to take snaps and let the defense win again? Why wouldn't you be right on board with this, this is exactly what you were wanting.

No it's not. Probably why you were arguing so much.

I said if it's possible to win with defense, it's possible to win again with defense. I did not say I wanted Sanchez as the starting QB. At least it looks like we are still looking, so all is not lost.

BroncoJoe
03-11-2016, 04:43 PM
What happened to "In Elway we Trust", guess the moniker is only good when certain fans agree with the moves being made.

I will never step off the Elway train. Never.

I trust him 100%.

Ravage!!!
03-11-2016, 04:44 PM
No it's not. Probably why you were arguing so much.

I said if it's possible to win with defense, it's possible to win again with defense. I did not say I wanted Sanchez as the starting QB. At least it looks like we are still looking, so all is not lost.

Not Sanchez in particular, but you were saying that you didn't see why we needed a good QB since our defense won it with poor QB play last year. Well, now e don't have a good QB and saved that cap space you were wanting to save. So it's exactly what you were wanting.

tubby
03-11-2016, 04:45 PM
Wait.. 12 games? So they are including the game he came in for about 2 snaps, or kneeled down, into the statistics??? Then, they are only including 13 games of Sanchez... which 13 games?

This is the funny thing about stats and people wanting them to tell a story. They can be soooo misleading. Also shows that teams are willing to pay for potential as opposed to paying for a known product.

In the last 2 years Osweiler played in 12 games and Sanchez played in 13. I don't believe kneel downs effect QBR.

Lancane
03-11-2016, 04:46 PM
I will never step off the Elway train. Never.

I trust him 100%.

I know you do Joe, you're consistent in your posts. But that was used against some of us who questioned going after RGIII, Kaepernick or about Osweiler...just shows how hypocritical some are.

Tned
03-11-2016, 04:47 PM
I'll never live that comment down. :laugh:

A quote that will live in infamy. Right up there with:



Four score and seven years ago....



I have a dream...



Alright, alright, alright....

Tned
03-11-2016, 04:48 PM
I will never step off the Elway train. Never.

I trust him 100%.

Ditto. I would trust him with my nineteen year old daughter.

wayninja
03-11-2016, 04:48 PM
Not Sanchez in particular, but you were saying that you didn't see why we needed a good QB since our defense won it with poor QB play last year. Well, now e don't have a good QB and saved that cap space you were wanting to save. So it's exactly what you were wanting.

No. You are purposefully reinterpreting what I said. I said we really had no place to go but up on offense and that I would rather use the money to keep the D together than overpay Brock. We did didn't overpay brock, but we also didn't keep Trevathan or Malik. Not the end of the world there, just stating what I'd rather have. Which didn't happen.

None of that means I want Sanchez to be the QB. Stop intentionally mischaracterizing what I say in order to provoke an argument.

Ravage!!!
03-11-2016, 04:50 PM
In the last 2 years Osweiler played in 12 games and Sanchez played in 13. I don't believe kneel downs effect QBR.

PLAYED in.. That's my point. In those other 5 games, other than this year's 7... how much 'play' did Os get in those games? Very very little..which is my point.

Ravage!!!
03-11-2016, 04:51 PM
No. You are purposefully reinterpreting what I said. I said we really had no place to go but up on offense and that I would rather use the money to keep the D together than overpay Brock. We did didn't overpay brock, but we also didn't keep Trevathan or Malik. Not the end of the world there, just stating what I'd rather have. Which didn't happen.

None of that means I want Sanchez to be the QB. Stop intentionally mischaracterizing what I say in order to provoke an argument.

You are getting defensive. But you did state that we didn't need much at QB since we didn't have much at defense last year. So, take that as you want. Perhaps you are seeing that the reality of not having that QB is hitting, and hoping to rely on the defense is coming more of a reality as well. I don't know.

Mike
03-11-2016, 04:54 PM
I will never step off the Elway train. Never.

I trust him 100%.

If he goes with Sanchez then that will be the first time I think he is 100% wrong.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k145/bubba_thudd/2ps0nsnjpg_zps3bd737e4.gif (http://s87.photobucket.com/user/bubba_thudd/media/2ps0nsnjpg_zps3bd737e4.gif.html)

MileHighCrew
03-11-2016, 04:55 PM
I'm driving to Montreal all happy and then this happens. Wtf...... Puke in my mouth

wayninja
03-11-2016, 04:57 PM
You are getting defensive. But you did state that we didn't need much at QB since we didn't have much at defense last year. So, take that as you want. Perhaps you are seeing that the reality of not having that QB is hitting, and hoping to rely on the defense is coming more of a reality as well. I don't know.

If I'm defensive, it's because you are behaving like a douche. I said that our offense could only go up because it was awful. I have no idea what you mean by "we didn't have much at defense last year". I never said that.

I would WAY rather have Tebow than Sanchez. I stand by that. The rest is you simply being unable to hear that name without going apoplectic.

Northman
03-11-2016, 04:59 PM
If he goes with Sanchez then that will be the first time I think he is 100% wrong.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k145/bubba_thudd/2ps0nsnjpg_zps3bd737e4.gif (http://s87.photobucket.com/user/bubba_thudd/media/2ps0nsnjpg_zps3bd737e4.gif.html)

It wont matter who he goes with at QB right now, none of them are any good or long term answers.

VonDoom
03-11-2016, 05:00 PM
I'm driving to Montreal all happy and then this happens. Wtf...... Puke in my mouth

I hear they have great strip clubs in Montreal. Don't let this ruin your day

BroncoJoe
03-11-2016, 05:00 PM
If he goes with Sanchez then that will be the first time I think he is 100% wrong.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k145/bubba_thudd/2ps0nsnjpg_zps3bd737e4.gif (http://s87.photobucket.com/user/bubba_thudd/media/2ps0nsnjpg_zps3bd737e4.gif.html)

Do you really think Sanchez could be worse than the QB play we had this year?

PS - we won Superbowl 50.

MileHighCrew
03-11-2016, 05:01 PM
I hear they have great strip clubs in Montreal. Don't let this ruin your day
They do I have been to a few but I'm here with wife and kids for wwe wrestling lol

Mike
03-11-2016, 05:01 PM
Do you really think Sanchez could be worse than the QB play we had this year?

PS - we won Superbowl 50.

With a better defense. Yes, I think he would be worse/

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
03-11-2016, 05:02 PM
Sanchez would be good depth. Jeez, what a bunch of sally's!!

TXBRONC
03-11-2016, 05:03 PM
Good grief guys it's not like he was named the starter and even if he eventually does it will be short lived.

Tned
03-11-2016, 05:05 PM
Do you really think Sanchez could be worse than the QB play we had this year?

PS - we won Superbowl 50.

We could have the 32nd rated QB play, instead of 31st, so there is room for Sanchez to regress offense.

BroncoJoe
03-11-2016, 05:08 PM
We could have the 32nd rated QB play, instead of 31st, so there is room for Sanchez to regress offense.

I have no retort.

Tned
03-11-2016, 05:18 PM
I have no retort.

Fortunately, QB play was so bad, likely anyone with a pulse will result in better QB play.

MileHighCrew
03-11-2016, 05:19 PM
Fortunately, QB play was so bad, likely anyone with a pulse will result in better QB play.

Maybe but do they really have to test that theory????

wayninja
03-11-2016, 05:21 PM
He may very well be "better" statistically. Some of us actually want to enjoy watching the Broncos play though.

I can't imagine enjoying it.

MOtorboat
03-11-2016, 05:22 PM
He may very well be "better" statistically. Some of us actually want to enjoy watching the Broncos play though.

I can't imagine enjoying it.

And yet you want that piece of trash Tebow back. Lol

Bronco4ever
03-11-2016, 05:25 PM
Just ordered my Sanchez jersey.

wayninja
03-11-2016, 05:26 PM
And yet you want that piece of trash Tebow back. Lol

**** yeah. One of the most fun to watch seasons for almost a decade before it.

Northman
03-11-2016, 05:30 PM
**** yeah. One of the most fun to watch seasons for almost a decade before it.

Then get aboard the Dirty Sanchez train Ninja!

MOtorboat
03-11-2016, 05:30 PM
It still never cease to me amaze me that people had more fun in that season than any of the Manning seasons or the Plummer seasons when this team was actually was good. Just baffling.

Denver Native (Carol)
03-11-2016, 05:32 PM
Jeff Legwold ‏@Jeff_Legwold 19m

If Fitzpatrick is hoping for Bradford/Osweiler money -- $18M per year, and why wouldn't he? Hard to see scenario where #Broncos make it work

Jeff Legwold ‏@Jeff_Legwold 31m

In the end I think FA earned and deserved for players and they should get every $ they can, but draft long-term answer to build organization

Jeff Legwold ‏@Jeff_Legwold 60m

Consider the FAs the Broncos just lost were 2nd, 5th, 6th round draft picks by the team means April still matters most in all of this.

Jeff Legwold ‏@Jeff_Legwold 1h

#Broncos make low-risk deal for Mark Sanchez, but expect more on the way at QB, draft included -- http://espn.go.com/blog/denver-broncos/post/_/id/19392/broncos-first-move-at-quarterback-is-mark-sanchez-with-more-to-come

wayninja
03-11-2016, 05:37 PM
Then get aboard the Dirty Sanchez train Ninja!

I tried that once in college. Never again.

wayninja
03-11-2016, 05:38 PM
It still never cease to me amaze me that people had more fun in that season than any of the Manning seasons or the Plummer seasons when this team was actually was good. Just baffling.

Then read better?

for almost a decade before it.

weazel
03-11-2016, 05:40 PM
The sky just hit me in the head!

Northman
03-11-2016, 05:49 PM
The sky just hit me in the head!

That wasnt the sky, that was the OG's ass.

Signed,
Mark Sanchez

Hawgdriver
03-11-2016, 05:58 PM
Sanchez gives Broncos breathing room.

...sigh...

That kind of breathing room?

But I agree.

Lancane
03-11-2016, 06:02 PM
Viva La Dirty Sanchez, Iye, Iye, Iye!!!

TXBRONC
03-11-2016, 06:07 PM
The sky just hit me in the head!

You need a hard hat.

Rick
03-11-2016, 06:09 PM
No issues with him at backup QB, that is what you want, a vet that can step in in a pinch.

I have no doubts we will get at least as much from him if he were starting as last years superbowl winning QB.

Is it too much to ask though that we score more than 20 points in a game? :(

TXBRONC
03-11-2016, 06:11 PM
No issues with him at backup QB, that is what you want, a vet that can step in in a pinch.

I have no doubts we will get at least as much from him if he were starting as last years superbowl winning QB.

Is it too much to ask though that we score more than 20 points in a game? :(

I have hunch that Elway and Kubiak both would like to score more than 20 points per game.

weazel
03-11-2016, 06:13 PM
That wasnt the sky, that was the OG's ass.

Signed,
Mark Sanchez

:laugh: that was good

aberdien
03-11-2016, 06:13 PM
Not the end of the world. At least it's not Johnny Manziel.

Lancane
03-11-2016, 06:14 PM
No issues with him at backup QB, that is what you want, a vet that can step in in a pinch.

I have no doubts we will get at least as much from him if he were starting as last years superbowl winning QB.

Is it too much to ask though that we score more than 20 points in a game? :(

They're re-tooling the offense, right now Sanchez gives them room to focus on Von, maybe Marshall, a running back and re-working Clady and Ware's contracts. Also gives them time to better evaluate rookie quarterbacks and focus on those they like.

ShaneFalco
03-11-2016, 06:15 PM
**** yeah. One of the most fun to watch seasons for almost a decade before it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4aNh511oHA

oh look sanchez played in this game. Too bad Tebow WEnT TEBOW TIME ALL OVER HIS FACE.

Lancane
03-11-2016, 06:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4aNh511oHA

oh look sanchez played in this game. Too bad Tebow WEnT TEBOW TIME ALL OVER HIS FACE.

Get over him already, the rest of the NFL has. :lol:

wayninja
03-11-2016, 06:59 PM
Get over him already, the rest of the NFL has. :lol:

True. I hear the NFL is pretty high on this sanchez guy.

scott.475
03-11-2016, 07:00 PM
I just have one question: the chaperone we'll need to hire to keep Sanchez away from high school girls, does that count against the cap?

scott.475
03-11-2016, 07:03 PM
I'll never live that comment down. :laugh:

It was one for the ages. A truly glorious moment to witness.

MOtorboat
03-11-2016, 07:07 PM
True. I hear the NFL is pretty high on this sanchez guy.

Sanchez is worlds better at being a quarterback in the NFL as Tebow. And its not really close.

Lancane
03-11-2016, 07:08 PM
I just have one question: the chaperone we'll need to hire to keep Sanchez away from high school girls, does that count against the cap?

No, that is paid for through Bowlen Sports Inc. which owns the Broncos and cuts the checks for executives. Probably a good tax write off though.

TXBRONC
03-11-2016, 07:13 PM
True. I hear the NFL is pretty high on this sanchez guy.

He still has a job in the NFL unlike........?

TXBRONC
03-11-2016, 07:16 PM
:laugh: that was good

That's the butt naked truth of the matter.

wayninja
03-11-2016, 07:34 PM
He still has a job in the NFL unlike........?

Unlike the people that don't? Not sure how that makes your point. There's plenty of backups who will likely see less snaps in the NFL than Tebow did. Guess that proves their relevance.

wayninja
03-11-2016, 07:36 PM
Sanchez is worlds better at being a quarterback in the NFL as Tebow. And its not really close.

Meh, I disagree. I'll leave it at that because I understand I'm in the minority and it's an opinion.

dogfish
03-11-2016, 07:40 PM
Meh, I disagree. I'll leave it at that because I understand I'm in the minority and it's an opinion.

it's true-- discretion often IS the better part of valor. . .


:D

BroncoWave
03-11-2016, 07:41 PM
This thread is gold. Solid gold. Well done, everyone.

Lancane
03-11-2016, 07:42 PM
This thread is gold. Solid gold. Well done, everyone.

You know we aim to please.

scott.475
03-11-2016, 07:54 PM
This thread is gold. Solid gold. Well done, everyone.

8734

I Eat Staples
03-11-2016, 08:02 PM
Trump was right. We need to build a wall around Denver to keep Mark Sanchez out. Make the Broncos great again!

Buff
03-11-2016, 08:04 PM
Trump was right. We need to build a wall around Denver to keep Mark Sanchez out. Make the Broncos great again!

Another Mexican taking a white mans job... Amirite guyz?

chazoe60
03-11-2016, 08:17 PM
Can we make Sanchez pay for the wall?

TXBRONC
03-11-2016, 08:18 PM
Unlike the people that don't? Not sure how that makes your point. There's plenty of backups who will likely see less snaps in the NFL than Tebow did. Guess that proves their relevance.

Yes it proves their relevance. They're in the NFL and Tebow isn't.

TXBRONC
03-11-2016, 08:23 PM
Another Mexican taking a white mans job... Amirite guyz?

He's an American.

BroncoWave
03-11-2016, 08:24 PM
He's an American.

I need to see his birth certificate.

TXBRONC
03-11-2016, 08:27 PM
I need to see his birth certificate.

You are so xenophobic. :tsk:

MOtorboat
03-11-2016, 08:29 PM
I need to see his birth certificate.

I bet he was born in Teewanna.

Jaded
03-11-2016, 08:31 PM
I hope we get a Buttfumble, I need this in my life.

Tned
03-11-2016, 08:33 PM
Another Mexican taking a white mans job... Amirite guyz?

Last time we went down this road with Sanchez.some guy threatened to behead another guy. :popcorn:

tomjonesrocks
03-11-2016, 08:53 PM
This thread is gold. Solid gold. Well done, everyone.

Ok Timmy.

In all honesty I don't think this is that bad. Sanchez is actually pretty serviceable as a stopgap for no money.

I don't even see him as that big a dropoff from Brock.

Krugan
03-11-2016, 09:00 PM
I am so glad i didnt pay attention to anything broncos related while at work.

I screamed ohhh for ****s sake, as soon as i saw this tonight.

Sanchez, wow, its ugly at the bottom of the barrel....

TXBRONC
03-11-2016, 09:07 PM
I am so glad i didnt pay attention to anything broncos related while at work.

I screamed ohhh for ****s sake, as soon as i saw this tonight.

Sanchez, wow, its ugly at the bottom of the barrel....

It could be much worse.

Krugan
03-11-2016, 09:11 PM
I could be much worse.

I wish i could feel that way.

There is a reason he was traded for a conditional pick, he just doesnt have it.

Ohh well, its early in the offseason.

TXBRONC
03-11-2016, 09:21 PM
I wish i could feel that way.

There is a reason he was traded for a conditional pick, he just doesnt have it.

Ohh well, its early in the offseason.

I don't they see him as a long term solution.

Jaded
03-11-2016, 09:50 PM
He may very well be "better" statistically. Some of us actually want to enjoy watching the Broncos play though.

I can't imagine enjoying it.
But you enjoy watching Tebow? Serious question, how is that possible?

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
03-11-2016, 11:21 PM
Ok Timmy.

In all honesty I don't think this is that bad. Sanchez is actually pretty serviceable as a stopgap for no money.

I don't even see him as that big a dropoff from Brock.

He probably has more pocket awareness than Brock.

Mike
03-11-2016, 11:29 PM
He probably has more pocket awareness than Brock.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k145/bubba_thudd/sanchez211_zpsiumxiwxx.gif (http://s87.photobucket.com/user/bubba_thudd/media/sanchez211_zpsiumxiwxx.gif.html)

Lancane
03-11-2016, 11:49 PM
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k145/bubba_thudd/sanchez211_zpsiumxiwxx.gif (http://s87.photobucket.com/user/bubba_thudd/media/sanchez211_zpsiumxiwxx.gif.html)

The defender pushed the lineman into the lane, Brock tripped his own running back with his feet.

TXBRONC
03-11-2016, 11:52 PM
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k145/bubba_thudd/sanchez211_zpsiumxiwxx.gif (http://s87.photobucket.com/user/bubba_thudd/media/sanchez211_zpsiumxiwxx.gif.html)

Mike, Denver will be fine.

Jsteve01
03-12-2016, 12:06 AM
Not to be negative but wouldn't Christian Ponder be a better option than this fool?

Lancane
03-12-2016, 12:11 AM
Not to be negative but wouldn't Christian Ponder be a better option than this fool?

Christian Ponder lost the starting job in less then two years and only ever played through one entire season, one! I'd rather have Sanchez.

Buff
03-12-2016, 12:11 AM
Not to be negative but wouldn't Christian Ponder be a better option than this fool?

Based on what? His many egregious failures?

dogfish
03-12-2016, 12:27 AM
Not to be negative but wouldn't Christian Ponder be a better option than this fool?

probably not. . .




:doh:

MOtorboat
03-12-2016, 01:14 AM
I'm still trying to figure out what you could possibly use in your argument to say Tebow is better than Sanchez.

Hawgdriver
03-12-2016, 01:16 AM
I think you just use moar Tebowwwww in your argument.

Lancane
03-12-2016, 02:32 AM
A little unknown tidbit, Sanchez wanted to come to Denver two years ago after being cut by the Jets to learn from Manning but the Broncos had Osweiler.

FanInAZ
03-12-2016, 02:37 AM
I'm still trying to figure out what you could possibly use in your argument to say Tebow is better than Sanchez.

Rex Ryan is a Joe Namath fan who sabotaged Tebow career to protect Namath's legacy with the Jets.

Joel
03-12-2016, 02:51 AM
I'm still trying to figure out what you could possibly use in your argument to say Tebow is better than Sanchez.
Who won their head-to-head? The preference of an offensively-challenged defensive guru like Rex Ryan means little: Look what kind of QBs he considers "good."

Maybe GOOD QB coaching like Kubiaks instead of the Ryan and Schottenheimer Show could make Sanchez decent, but he'll be 30 by seasons end. By then, I think most QBs are what they'll always be; trying to fix bad ones that late is usually a losing battle against indelibly ingrained and very BAD instincts and habits. I've long thought Shanny and Kubiak might've salvaged Plummer had he made it to Denver sooner; instead they had a constant hopeless war to keep his head in the game.

Plummer, of course, arrived in Denver at 29, turning 30 the following December; Sanchez hits 30 in November....

Note that the preceding is in no way an argument for Tebow: He turns 29 in August, and his skill level's a LOT more than a single year behind Sanchez'. Too late. :tsk:

Valar Morghulis
03-12-2016, 03:28 AM
Sanchez is Kyle Orton minus a neck beard plus a butt fumble.

He will never be named starter. Not a bad back up though.

TXBRONC
03-12-2016, 08:23 AM
Not to be negative but wouldn't Christian Ponder be a better option than this fool?

Honestly I wouldn't think so. Although he does have a hot looking wife so maybe you're right.

artie_dale
03-12-2016, 10:32 AM
Nah, not chainsaw worthy. We got him cheap with a cheap contract to deal with. Not bad for a backup....now if he's the starter and we do nothing else, we may need to revisit this decision. ;)

We'll do more and I'd even be fine if he was our starter. I mean, how much leverage do they have when they are under contract for $4.5M - $5.5M? I'm sure they can justify talking Elway up a little, but the bottom line is he's already under contract.

Let's let CJ have a fresh start reunited with Gase and lets go get Alfred Morris (IF he's not over weight).

artie_dale
03-12-2016, 10:33 AM
I'll never live that comment down. :laugh:

It's etched in Broncoforums.com's history now.

artie_dale
03-12-2016, 10:38 AM
Lol, Sanchez is really no worse than the other guys we have been looking at. The QB position this year is going to be questionable anyway no matter if its a rookie or one of the B and C rate players we've been hearing about. If people honestly believe players like Kap or RGIII are going to flourish in Denver they are smoking a lot of crack. When Sanchez has had a great defense he has at least been able to make it to a pair of AFCCG's in the process. The reality is Denver's long term future QB probably wont materialize for a couple of years.

Exactly. If we can go undefeated with as bad as Peyton played this season, and win the division and SB with as many dropped passes this season, and have a sporadic run game ALL season, and have terrible inconsistent OL play, Sanchez kind of sounds like he could be an upgrade (that's not really a reach either). If we keep our D fluent, really all that needs major repair (because any QB at this point would almost be a parallel move when compared to who we had) is shoring up our OL. And getting a qualify RB. Our O should naturally be upgraded to at least average (can everyone agree that we were below average last season?).

artie_dale
03-12-2016, 10:44 AM
Maybe but do they really have to test that theory????

For that price? Hellz yeah!

artie_dale
03-12-2016, 10:45 AM
He may very well be "better" statistically. Some of us actually want to enjoy watching the Broncos play though.

I can't imagine enjoying it.

Dude, you made it through last season's QB play. You'll be fine.

artie_dale
03-12-2016, 10:47 AM
It still never cease to me amaze me that people had more fun in that season than any of the Manning seasons or the Plummer seasons when this team was actually was good. Just baffling.

That's why I don't value Loyalty. See what it does? smh

artie_dale
03-12-2016, 10:51 AM
They're re-tooling the offense, right now Sanchez gives them room to focus on Von, maybe Marshall, a running back and re-working Clady and Ware's contracts. Also gives them time to better evaluate rookie quarterbacks and focus on those they like.

Hell, I think if Sanchez is "the guy", we may not need to retool Ware's contract too much. Clady is committed to retooling and staying, and he hasn't earned his in a while so, his definitely needs to be revamped.

artie_dale
03-12-2016, 10:52 AM
True. I hear the NFL is pretty high on this sanchez guy.

Hmmm.... Which one is still in the NFL? Oh yeah, the right one.

artie_dale
03-12-2016, 10:54 AM
Unlike the people that don't? Not sure how that makes your point. There's plenty of backups who will likely see less snaps in the NFL than Tebow did. Guess that proves their relevance.

The fact that they still exist in the NFL, physically, is their relevance.

artie_dale
03-12-2016, 10:55 AM
8734

"Why don't they call it 'Round-tine?'"

ShaneFalco
03-12-2016, 01:31 PM
I thought homerism had limits....

wayninja
03-12-2016, 02:26 PM
The fact that they still exist in the NFL, physically, is their relevance.

It's so funny to me the lengths people will go to shit on a guy who gave the broncos the first division title and playoff win in a long time despite being a backup QB and being handed a 1-4 record to work with. Even going so far as to say that somehow folks who will never take an NFL snap are more relevant.

wayninja
03-12-2016, 02:27 PM
Dude, you made it through last season's QB play. You'll be fine.

Will I? WILL I?

Yeah probably. So?

MOtorboat
03-12-2016, 02:28 PM
It's so funny to me the lengths people will go to shit on a guy who gave the broncos the first division title and playoff win in a long time despite being a backup QB and being handed a 1-4 record to work with. Even going so far as to say that somehow folks who will never take an NFL snap are more relevant.

No one is shitting on Von Miller.

wayninja
03-12-2016, 02:30 PM
No one is shitting on Von Miller.

Well, chiefs fans are. Which is about as relevant to the conversation.

TXBRONC
03-12-2016, 02:42 PM
Tebow isn't relavent to this conversation. He's never going to play for the Broncos again.

artie_dale
03-12-2016, 03:39 PM
It's so funny to me the lengths people will go to shit on a guy who gave the broncos the first division title and playoff win in a long time despite being a backup QB and being handed a 1-4 record to work with. Even going so far as to say that somehow folks who will never take an NFL snap are more relevant.

Come on man. Being "thankful" for what Tebow accomplished is one thing. But to disregard all the other factors that it took in order for him to accomplish what he did is the only way to give him full credit. Our defense was amazing for him that season. They never get an inkling of gratitude for carrying Tebow the entire season (well, after he was given the keys).

And Tebow didn't earn the starting job, Kyle Orton lost it.
The offense had to be entirely revamped to cater to Tebow's abilities, because maybe the coaches realized he sure as hell wasn't going to be able to adapt to their needs.
Lastly, that wild card game against the Steelers, it was literally won be DT. An over-time dump pass that resulted in a two-for-one stiff-arm and a sprint of around 70 yards.

My favorite thing about Tebow when he was on the field was his poise and positive attitude.
The thing that irked me the very most was after a 3 & out, or a turnover, not once did he go to the sideline and review pre-snap photos with the OC.

Since his time in Denver, I've concluded for myself that there must be one of three possible reasons he is not an NFL QB:
1) He is just terrible and that is the reason why he can't stay on a roster (likely the case)
2) He is actually good enough to make a roster, but NFL coaches do not want him because he's Tebow (not likely because it is closest to a conspiracy)
3) He is actually good enough to make an NFL roster, but coaches, GMs, and owners do not want to deal with his fan base because they are overwhelming and suffocating (can be the case as well)

Ravage!!!
03-12-2016, 05:27 PM
There are a lot of avid fans for a lot of people. Seems like there is only ONE player I can think of where the fan base is used as an excuse for that player NOT being on a roster. I wonder why that is? :confused:

wayninja
03-12-2016, 07:56 PM
Come on man. Being "thankful" for what Tebow accomplished is one thing. But to disregard all the other factors that it took in order for him to accomplish what he did is the only way to give him full credit. Our defense was amazing for him that season. They never get an inkling of gratitude for carrying Tebow the entire season (well, after he was given the keys).

I'm not disregarding anything. He was a sophomore QB who hadn't ever had 1st team reps. Some people want to ignore that when they will give that benefit of doubt and inexperience to any number of other rookie/first time starters in the league. He didn't look super impressive, but he (or his team as some want to say) won games, and it looked to me like he was growing/learning. His mechanics in preseason last year for the eagles looked like they did address or at least begin to address a lot of the criticisms of his technique. I'm simply not willing to throw out as lost a QB who was has a winning NFL record and playoff win without ever having been the starter for a full season. Lots of current backup QB's simply don't have that pedigree.


And Tebow didn't earn the starting job, Kyle Orton lost it.

Fair enough. Yet, Tebow was ostensibly 3rd on the depth chart... So, I guess he beat out Quinn? Seems like he did a fair job replacing the guy who lost the job because the team was sucking shit. That's all I'm looking at.


The offense had to be entirely revamped to cater to Tebow's abilities, because maybe the coaches realized he sure as hell wasn't going to be able to adapt to their needs.

This is where I disagree with most people and I think one of the biggest reasons his career is now dead. The offense did NOT have to be revamped. That was a choice the coaches made and it did Tebow and his career no favors. He looked way better before they "revamped" the offense in the games he played (see the houston game the season before). The "revamped" offense made the broncos ENTIRELY one dimensional especially because of the stupid shit Fox said about the subject.


Lastly, that wild card game against the Steelers, it was literally won be DT. An over-time dump pass that resulted in a two-for-one stiff-arm and a sprint of around 70 yards.

Lol. I know this is always the way with tebow. Receiver stats count for every other QB in the world besides Tebow. I'm used to it. Tebow was on around the 15 yard line and hit DT in stride around the 36 yard line. That's hardly a "dump pass", but whatever.

Cugel
03-12-2016, 08:35 PM
Rex Ryan is a Joe Namath fan who sabotaged Tebow career to protect Namath's legacy with the Jets.

No! It was really a secret plot by Sasquatch - who was in the pay of the Illuminati, fiendishly designed to undermine born-again Christians by sabotaging Tebow and making him unable to throw a forward pass!

8737 + 8738

TXBRONC
03-12-2016, 08:46 PM
Actually Tebow did get first team reps in his rookie season. He started the last three games of year.