Which quarterback(s) do you want Denver to acquire.

[BroncoWave]

Pretty straightforward. Can pick multiple if you want us to bring someone in and draft someone.

[chazoe60]

Fitz and a draft pick (Dak Prescott maybe).

[CoachChaz]

This ought to be a realistic thread. lol

[Edmonton Bronco Fan]

It's pretty much a no win scenario here.

A game manager like Fitz. Or two rehab projects in Kaep or RG III.

I'll go with the guy who has shown amazing potential in the past but fell off during a shitshow two seasons in which nearly the entire team under performed in San Fran. Kaepernick could thrive in a Kubiak offense, I believe. Still more unlikely than it is likely... but what have we got to lose?

[chazoe60]

This ought to be a realistic thread. lol

That reminds me. Aaron Rodgers or Andrew Luck.

[slim]

Trade CJ for Aaron Rodgers

[GEM]

Fitzpatrick makes the most sense.

[MileHighCrew]

AJ McCarron. I think it is realistic and that is who I would be excited to see as a Bronco.

[weazel]

I honestly think whoever they grab will be a stopgap until they get someone in FA or draft down the road so it doesn't really matter. If this last season showed us anything, they don't need a superstar gunslinger out there.

[weazel]

Trade CJ for Aaron Rodgers

this, definitely! I think GB would have to throw in a couple picks as well though.

[CoachChaz]

Maybe we need to get Keeper's input on this, but I'm still waiting to hear a reasonable explanation as to why Cincy would be motivated to move McCarron.

[BroncoWave]

I went with Kapernick and Prescott. Similar type players who we could smoothly transition from one to the next if Kap doesn't wind up being the franchise guy, which he probably would not. I watched a lot of Prescott in college so I am obviously biased, but the dude has a huge arm and is a great guy/leader. Can definitely make all the throws, just needs to polish up his footwork and work on making progressions. I'd love to see him in Denver.

And as for Kap, I can't freaking stand him as a person, but I think he is the best of a lot of bad options. He was really good in SF until that whole organization went to shit. Much more stability for him here.

[Bronco4ever]

It may not be popular, but I'd be ok with RGIII. He grew up a Broncos fan and would probably come cheap and bust his ass to fulfill his childhood dream. I also think he got a major slice of humble pie this past year.

[Northman]

McCarron and either Cook or Hogan.

[CoachChaz]

It may not be popular, but I'd be ok with RGIII. He grew up a Broncos fan and would probably come cheap and bust his ass to fulfill his childhood dream. I also think he got a major slice of humble pie this past year.

I agree...but A LOT is going to depend on physicals and his health moving forward.

[MileHighCrew]

Maybe we need to get Keeper's input on this, but I'm still waiting to hear a reasonable explanation as to why Cincy would be motivated to move McCarron.

I'm not sure they would but Dalton is young and if they can turn AJ into someone they could use now to win they might be interested in making a deal. Sort of like the Pats, get something for their backups while they can because he isn't going to take Dalton's job. They could draft another back up later in this draft and it would be win / win for them.

[weazel]

I don't see Cleo Lemon on the list

[Lancane]

McCarron knows he might get traded, he said he was okay with it. As to whether the Broncos are interested is another story.

As to the question, I would say Sanchez as a stopgap and draft someone, likely Lynch or Cook.

[BroncoWave]

I don't see Cleo Lemon on the list

Shit. Glaring omission on my part. My bad, guys.

[NightTerror218]

Keep Kaep off this team. He is just bad and costs to much.

[NightTerror218]

McCarron knows he might get traded, he said he was okay with it. As to whether the Broncos are interested is another story.

As to the question, I would say Sanchez as a stopgap and draft someone, likely Lynch or Cook.

Please no butt fumble.

[CoachChaz]

RGIII for me...and for many reasons...it's not even close. If his medicals check out, he's easily my first choice by far

[Lancane]

RGIII for me...and for many reasons...it's not even close. If his medicals check out, he's easily my first choice by far

Well one good thing about RGIII is he'll be easy to replace, he is use to being booed and our backups will likely get playing time when he's injured again.

[tubby]

TJ Yates

[Northman]

RGIII for me...and for many reasons...it's not even close. If his medicals check out, he's easily my first choice by far

Your insane but entitled to your opinion.

[CoachChaz]

Your insane but entitled to your opinion.

I've been called worse. :-)

[BORDERLINE]

McCarron looked the part and played extremely well against our defense in Denver with the elements. What do you guys think of sending our 2nd or first round pick in exchange for the young QB.

I'm glad I'm not making this call. I hope Elway has something up his sleeve

[dogfish]

my preference would be bob griffin and a draft pick-- ideally a second or third, but that may not be realisitc as far back as we are in each round. . . maybe we move down from 31, or up from 63. . .

[CoachChaz]

Almost voted for OTHER because I think Bradford would be a good fit...but not sure which direction the Eagles "truly" intend to go.

[dogfish]

I've been called worse. :-)

probably today. . . :heh:

[CoachChaz]

my preference would be bob griffin and a draft pick-- ideally a second or third, but that may not be realisitc as far back as we are in each round. . . maybe we move down from 31, or up from 63. . .

That's one of the benefits of the last pick in the first and an evening to think about the 2nd round. Usually there is someone that drops that another team is interested in and it can garner some trade back options. Although...if Elliott or a quality OL drops...that would be my first choice

[CoachChaz]

probably today. . . :heh:

Shit...in the past hour, bro.

[Timmy!]

I don't like it, but I'd be OK with RG3 on the cheap so long as we draft a kid early as well.

[NightTerror218]

McCarron looked the part and played extremely well against our defense in Denver with the elements. What do you guys think of sending our 2nd or first round pick in exchange for the young QB.

I'm glad I'm not making this call. I hope Elway has something up his sleeve

1st hell no. 2nd maybe.

[slim]

1st hell no. 2nd maybe.

We could give them cswil and a #2 pencil.

[VonDoom]

I went with McCarron and Prescott. There are so many variables here, though. Like someone said, we might have no shot at McCarron anyway (in which case, I'd take Kaep for a retread). None of these are particularly appealing options, as we all know.

[tripp]

I used to like the idea of Fitz coming here.. now I'm on the fence. Would like to see Kap with a second chance, he has more upside than Fitz. RG3 would've been my first choice but I'm cautious of his previous injuries that seem to be nagging him throughout his short career. Both Kap and RG3 need second chances elsewhere, but not being thrown into the fire right away.

It'd be awesome if we could nab RG3 and Kap, and have them compete in training camp.

[BroncoJoe]

We could give them cswil and a #2 pencil.

I'd give them cswil and $1,000,000 just to take that POS away from here.

[NightTerror218]

I am going to take a stab that Elway may move up in draft for Goff if he can. Some say he is over hyped and may fall a little. If he falls out of top 10 or a team just wants more picks and takes a bad trade.

Lynch is not match for this system. He is strictly a shot gun QB with poor feet due to reports.

Prescott would be the 2nd round option.

[shank]

Macarron for a 2nd would be great. I would high five myself if that went down.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

McCarron or Kaep

[Lancane]

I am going to take a stab that Elway may move up in draft for Goff if he can. Some say he is over hyped and may fall a little. If he falls out of top 10 or a team just wants more picks and takes a bad trade.

Lynch is not match for this system. He is strictly a shot gun QB with poor feet due to reports.

Prescott would be the 2nd round option.

They seem interested in Lynch, well they called his HS Coach to ask about him atleast.

[tripp]

Year in and year out teams always waste a 1st rounder on a QB because they get desperate and think they'll find a diamond in the rough. There's a reason why these scouts aren't speaking highly on most of these QB's and their worth.

I'd hate to waste a 1st rounder on a QB only to turn out like Blaine Gabbert.

[NightTerror218]

They seem interested in Lynch, well they called his HS Coach to ask about him atleast.

He is being called a project QB. Bad footwork does not do well as a QB strictly under center most of the time.

However seen as a high ceilings player.

[NightTerror218]

Year in and year out teams always waste a 1st rounder on a QB because they get desperate and think they'll find a diamond in the rough. There's a reason why these scouts aren't speaking highly on most of these QB's and their worth.

I'd hate to waste a 1st rounder on a QB only to turn out like Blaine Gabbert.

Exactly, do your homework and really pick them apart. First day out what is mental and physical problems. Determine if they are coachable because nobody is perfect.

I am like Prescott but he is a tebow style player by comparisons with better mechanics and accuracy.

[CoachChaz]

Wonder what TB would want for Glennon

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Wonder what TB would want for Glennon

That might not be a bad option. Big arm, decent mobility

[Northman]

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[OrangeHoof]

Focus, guys (and gals). We have a Super Bowl-winning defense and think we still do even with our losses. Let's not piss that away on a stopgap QB who won't last the season or turns the ball over in critical situations. IMO, the best "caretaker" QB in the bunch is Fitzpatrick. He's more mobile than he looks and he'll understand that he needs to limit mistakes and let his defense win the game (it's what he did in Houston and New York). Then get somebody in the draft to develop, hopefully Lynch but you could also try Cook, Prescott or Hackenberg.

If we were just an ordinary team, I'd be okay with RG3 or Kaepernick and see what they could do under Kubes but this defense is special and it would be a shame to waste it with a QB who thinks *he's* the star of the show.

[tripp]

At the end of the day any QB the Broncos acquire at this point wouldn't shock or surprise me. The candidates are out there for everyone to look at. May as well take our time and be thorough and not jump into anything. Would like to see 2 QB's brought in before the season starts - just for competition.

[LawDog]

Why isn't Kurt Warner in the poll?

[broncohead]

I think we should go with Fitz depending on price. Hes a vet that a rook can learn behind for a year or so.

[tomjonesrocks]

It may not be popular, but I'd be ok with RGIII. He grew up a Broncos fan and would probably come cheap and bust his ass to fulfill his childhood dream. I also think he got a major slice of humble pie this past year.

I think he'd get hurt immediately but at least he's actually available. Schefter says Denver has interest.

Wonder also what Foles would cost.

[NightTerror218]

Matt moore

[I Eat Staples]

Cook would be awesome in this offense. I'd be excited about him. And I just like Lynch in general so I'd be excited for him too.

Why do you guys like Dak Prescott?! He's another Tebow.

[BroncoWave]

Cook would be awesome in this offense. I'd be excited about him. And I just like Lynch in general so I'd be excited for him too.

Why do you guys like Dak Prescott?! He's another Tebow.

Dak is smarter, more accurate, and has a stronger arm than Tebow. And he also doesn't have the insane following and media attention. Is he a project? Yeah, probably won't be ready year 1. But I think he has way more upside than Tebow.

[BeefStew25]

I'd take Kap over RG3. If we are going to go with a minority under center they need to preferably be light skinned.

[BroncoWave]

I'd take Kap over RG3. If we are going to go with a minority under center they need to preferably be light skinned.

Yeah but RG3 is married to a white woman so he isn't really black.

[tomjonesrocks]

Yeah but RG3 is married to a white woman so he isn't really black.

He's a cornball brother. Not down with the cause.

[MasterShake]

McCarron, Kaepernick, and RGIII in that order for me. If its RGIII drafting a QB would be interesting to see if we can push him.

[MasterShake]

Or lets bring my 3rd favorite Broncos QB out of retirement! He's 41, but he is probably well rested and in good shape from all the handball.

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[NightTerror218]

Cook would be awesome in this offense. I'd be excited about him. And I just like Lynch in general so I'd be excited for him too.

Why do you guys like Dak Prescott?! He's another Tebow.

I do not want cook. He would not be able to lead the huddle. He is a follower. He was never picked as a captain.

[BroncoTech]

I don't not want Kap. Being in the bay area I watched him throw pick after pick this season throwing late over the middle from his back foot. Thanks but no thanks. I say play Siemian for a year and try to get Eli in free agency next year.

[Jsteve01]

Listen if Kubiak is proved anything over the course of his career is that he can make average quarterbacks very good. Matt Schaub being the prime example. Very similar to what Harbaugh has done with quarterbacks over the course of his career. Kap doesnt scare me just based on lack of production last year because that team starting up front and going all the way to the head coach was horrid

[HORSEPOWER 56]

RG3 and draft Prescott. This offense relies on QBs who can move around and run bootlegs to be fully successful.

[Jsteve01]

What about the kid from Louisiana Tech? I remember we played a year at Florida and look decent, and then somehow ended up at a Conference USA School. I guess he's another guy with a lot of physical talent but not skill

[ShaneFalco]

tebow not a selection?

Thread is not as cool as mine.

[Dapper Dan]

What about the kid from Louisiana Tech? I remember we played a year at Florida and look decent, and then somehow ended up at a Conference USA School. I guess he's another guy with a lot of physical talent but not skill

Jeff Driskel, I think. Total Fagg.

[Dapper Dan]

Listen if Kubiak is proved anything over the course of his career is that he can make average quarterbacks very good. Matt Schaub being the prime example. Very similar to what Harbaugh has done with quarterbacks over the course of his career. Kap doesnt scare me just based on lack of production last year because that team starting up front and going all the way to the head coach was horrid

This system made Jake Plummer not look like Jake Mistake.

[Dapper Dan]

Not listed is the only QB on our roster. :lol:

[ShaneFalco]

breaking news in the other cooler QB thread.

[Ravage!!!]

Year in and year out teams always waste a 1st rounder on a QB because they get desperate and think they'll find a diamond in the rough. There's a reason why these scouts aren't speaking highly on most of these QB's and their worth.

I'd hate to waste a 1st rounder on a QB only to turn out like Blaine Gabbert.

You mean the very QB that beat out the one you would like to see come to Denver?

[FanInAZ]

What I want to have happen will never happen, especially when you consider it goes against who Elway does business. I was very impressed with Landry Jones during his limited starts this past season & would be willing to over compensate the Steelers a little bit in order to get him.

[Lancane]

What Elway needs to do is go after someone older, Fitzpatrick or Sanchez, maybe Weeden or Hoyer and draft someone like Lynch, Hackenburgh, Cook or Hogan, maybe Lynch and groom them along with Siemien for two years...with RGIII or Kaepernick we'll have a quarterback controversy very quick either because they'll do well and have someone behind them that alot of fans are excited about or they'll stink and fans want to switch even if they're not ready. With Patrick is Mark there is at most a two year leeway fans will give to bring the younger guys along.

[Jsteve01]

Sanchez with Kubes and Knapp is slightly intriguing

[Lancane]

Sanchez with Kubes and Knapp is slightly intriguing

Agreed, Sanchez makes sense for a couple years as they solidify the line, establish a better run game before handing the reins over to whomever.

[BroncoWave]

Not listed is the only QB on our roster. :lol:

Notice the thread says who do you want Denver to "ACQUIRE". Try to keep up! :lol:

[Dapper Dan]

Notice the thread says who do you want Denver to "ACQUIRE". Try to keep up! :lol:

You win this round, buttface.

[BroncoJoe]

I wonder if any teams with a descent backup are calling the Broncos inquiring about a trade. We have plenty of draft picks...

Who are the best backups in the NFL?

[BroncoWave]

I wonder if any teams with a descent backup are calling the Broncos inquiring about a trade. We have plenty of draft picks...

Who are the best backups in the NFL?

Off the top of my head McCarron would be the obvious one. I have heard Mike Glennon's name kicked around as well. Maybe Landry Jones too? I can't think of very many who I'd really like to have compete for the job.

[Lancane]

I wonder if any teams with a descent backup are calling the Broncos inquiring about a trade. We have plenty of draft picks...

Who are the best backups in the NFL?

I would say, Metzenberger (TEN), McCarron (CIN) and Glennon (TB), then you have Sanchez (PHI), Foles (LA) and a couple others that could be traded.

[chazoe60]

Why isn't Uncle Rico a poll option?

[Lancane]

If I am a rookie QB in the draft, I'd be having my agent laying inquiries as to the teams' interest and telling the agent to let it be known that it's where I would want to be.

[MasterShake]

Why isn't Uncle Rico a poll option?

I'll never forget the time he threw a ball over them mountains.

[VonDoom]

Why isn't Uncle Rico a poll option?

If coach woulda put him in the fourth quarter, they'd be state champions. No doubt in my mind.

[weazel]

Shit. Glaring omission on my part. My bad, guys.

I expect better from you, man.

[weazel]

I think the Broncos should trade a 2nd round pick to the Texans for Brock Osweiler.

[artie_dale]

So, one principle I currently have is, I do not believe in using draft picks that would have been used on potential players to be traded for players that are unproven. So, AJ McCarren is out for me.

Questions surrounding Fitzpatrick and Sanchez are simply, we have seen all that they are capable of. Why invest in people who seemed to have peaked? No thanks.

RGIII & Kaep have already shown that they are athletic and can sling the ball with velocity. They are still young and have room to grow. SF is interested in CJ (who may have peaked as well and will allow us to keep some picks) and RGIII will be much cheaper to sign than Brock (I think).

I looked at highlights of Conner Cook, Dak Prescott, and Paxton Lynch.

I was turned off right away with the majority of Prescott's highlights being scrambles.

Conner Cook seemed to benefit mostly from rcvrs getting wide open. He has touch though, but his passes seemed to hang in the air for a while. NFL DB reaction, speed, and quickness exposes those lobs all too often.

I do like Paxton Lynch though. Yeah, he doesn't out shine all the other QBs, but I just like what he brings to the table more than the others.

If we don't sign one of these QBs that are left (I hope we don't trade for one), you bet your ass Elway will pull the trigger to trade up and snag one of these guys in the draft. (I'd rather trade picks for more potential than for guys who had chances to prove something and were mediocre in doing so)

[Lancane]

So, one principle I currently have is, I do not believe in using draft picks that would have been used on potential players to be traded for players that are unproven. So, AJ McCarren is out for me.

Questions surrounding Fitzpatrick and Sanchez are simply, we have seen all that they are capable of. Why invest in people who seemed to have peaked? No thanks.

RGIII & Kaep have already shown that they are athletic and can sling the ball with velocity. They are still young and have room to grow. SF is interested in CJ (who may have peaked as well and will allow us to keep some picks) and RGIII will be much cheaper to sign than Brock (I think).

I looked at highlights of Conner Cook, Dak Prescott, and Paxton Lynch.

I was turned off right away with the majority of Prescott's highlights being scrambles.

Conner Cook seemed to benefit mostly from rcvrs getting wide open. He has touch though, but his passes seemed to hang in the air for a while. NFL DB reaction, speed, and quickness exposes those lobs all too often.

I do like Paxton Lynch though. Yeah, he doesn't out shine all the other QBs, but I just like what he brings to the table more than the others.

If we don't sign one of these QBs that are left (I hope we don't trade for one), you bet your ass Elway will pull the trigger to trade up and snag one of these guys in the draft. (I'd rather trade picks for more potential than for guys who had chances to prove something and were mediocre in doing so)

I high fived you not for your like of RGIII or Kaepernick but assessment of the college quarterbacks. I think Denver trades up for Lynch who has been compared to Flacco as was Osweiler, he fits what they want. If they added Sanchez or Fitzpatrick then easy transition and low QB controversy in two years, not so with RGIII or Kaepernick.

[artie_dale]

I high fived you not for your like of RGIII or Kaepernick but assessment of the college quarterbacks. I think Denver trades up for Lynch who has been compared to Flacco as was Osweiler, he fits what they want. If they added Sanchez or Fitzpatrick then easy transition and low QB controversy in two years, not so with RGIII or Kaepernick.

Thanks. I'm not "high" on RGIII or Kaep (though may have seemed to give off that impression), but I do think they are young enough and offer the kind of skill set that can thrive in our system (Kubes' system). I'd rather invest now in a potential rookie if we make this move. I don't believe a rookie NEEDS to be groomed under a veteran for a couple years. But, I can see the downfalls of throwing a guy in right off the bat.

Cutler was on his way and developing nicely until that was stripped from him (they were weening him away from his bad habits). Unfortunately, Chicago took him as is and he resorted back to them.

I think a decent OL, a rookie QB can benefit from getting the reps right away.

[CoachChaz]

I high fived you not for your like of RGIII or Kaepernick but assessment of the college quarterbacks. I think Denver trades up for Lynch who has been compared to Flacco as was Osweiler, he fits what they want. If they added Sanchez or Fitzpatrick then easy transition and low QB controversy in two years, not so with RGIII or Kaepernick.

I like Lynch, but he'll definitely take 2-3 years to develop, so adding a veteran to a short deal is a must.

[VonDoom]

Even Sanders is using our joke from this thread!

https://twitter.com/ESanders_10/status/707995723334340608

[tripp]

Why isn't Vince Young an option!?

[Lancane]

Why isn't Vince Young an option!?

Because his clone RGIII is already on it! ;)

[tripp]

trey wingo ‏@wingoz 36m36 minutes ago

Colin Kaepernick was benched for Blaine Gabbert, and now.. he's the hottest QB around. What a time, to be alive

[Northman]

trey wingo ‏@wingoz 36m36 minutes ago

Colin Kaepernick was benched for Blaine Gabbert, and now.. he's the hottest QB around. What a time, to be alive

Sad isnt it? lol

[slim]

trey wingo ‏@wingoz 36m36 minutes ago

Colin Kaepernick was benched for Blaine Gabbert, and now.. he's the hottest QB around. What a time, to be alive

Brock was benched for the worst QB in the league (statistically) and he was the hottest QB around yesterday!

[NightTerror218]

Sad isnt it? lol

Tom Sula was just a bad coach. Kaep. Ever fit in that system and don't forget the exodus of talent on that team.

[VonDoom]

Brock was benched for the worst QB in the league (statistically) and he was the hottest QB around yesterday!

Great point. Teams are starved for QB's, which is why they're all getting huge pay days.

[Buff]

Brock was benched for the worst QB in the league (statistically) and he was the hottest QB around yesterday!

Brian Hoyer was statistically more effective in the regular season than was Brock. Free agency is silly.

[tripp]

Brian Hoyer was statistically more effective in the regular season than was Brock. Free agency is silly.

Does Brock's numbers even look great throughout his 7 games? Or do they look at the fact that he won 5 games as a starter (with the NFL's best defense)? Criminal he won 5, considering he was benched during his 5th win.

I don't know why I do it to myself bringing up this stuff. I just can't comprehend a QB getting that much money for 7 games when the defense was the obvious reason why he won ANY of them.

[VonDoom]

Does Brock's numbers even look great throughout his 7 games? Or do they look at the fact that he won 5 games as a starter (with the NFL's best defense)? Criminal he won 5, considering he was benched during his 5th win.

I don't know why I do it to myself bringing up this stuff. I just can't comprehend a QB getting that much money for 7 games when the defense was the obvious reason why he won ANY of them.

I posted yesterday when everything was hitting the fan this piece that Barnwell had written comparing Osweiler's first seven starts with Hoyer's. They are remarkable similar. Take from that what you will.

[DenBronx]

I never thought Brock was anything more than average. It is what it is and we could probably upgrade in the draft. Lynch will be reachable. Sign Fitzpatrick and draft a rookie...boom. #toughactintanactin

[VonDoom]

The teams still seems in good spirits, anyway:

Brandon McManus ‏@thekidmcmanus 1h1 hour ago

Pick me @ESanders_10, Pick me #KickerQB

Emmanuel Sanders ‏@ESanders_10 9m9 minutes ago

Emmanuel Sanders Retweeted Brandon McManus

No Brandon. You don't get to apply. You have a job. You have one job.

[tubby]

Matt Moore

[DenBronx]

Trade for Drew Brees. Saints aint going anywhere and were still built to win now.

[artie_dale]

The teams still seems in good spirits, anyway:

Brandon McManus ‏@thekidmcmanus 1h1 hour ago

Pick me @ESanders_10, Pick me #KickerQB

Emmanuel Sanders ‏@ESanders_10 9m9 minutes ago

Emmanuel Sanders Retweeted Brandon McManus

No Brandon. You don't get to apply. You have a job. You have one job.

HA HA. That's hilarious!

[artie_dale]

Trade for Drew Brees. Saints aint going anywhere and were still built to win now.

Ugh. I love Drew Brees, but are we going to be THOSE GUYS?

And Brees wouldn't fit in a Kubes system any better than... an old guy. And Brees is already considered an old guy in the NFL.

[CoachChaz]

Nassib would be an interesting target as well. Blocked by Manning

[Northman]

The teams still seems in good spirits, anyway:

Brandon McManus ‏@thekidmcmanus 1h1 hour ago

Pick me @ESanders_10, Pick me #KickerQB

Emmanuel Sanders ‏@ESanders_10 9m9 minutes ago

Emmanuel Sanders Retweeted Brandon McManus

No Brandon. You don't get to apply. You have a job. You have one job.

Sanders has been hilarious.

[LTC Pain]

Ryan Nassib anyone?

http://www.sportsmedia101.com/newyorkgiants/2016/03/02/are-the-new-york-giants-considering-trading-backup-qb-ryan-nassib-this-offseason/

[artie_dale]

Ryan Nassib anyone?

http://www.sportsmedia101.com/newyorkgiants/2016/03/02/are-the-new-york-giants-considering-trading-backup-qb-ryan-nassib-this-offseason/

At this point, I'd welcome Jay Cutler back if the price is right. He would thrive in a Kubiak system too.

[CoachChaz]

Ryan Nassib anyone?

http://www.sportsmedia101.com/newyorkgiants/2016/03/02/are-the-new-york-giants-considering-trading-backup-qb-ryan-nassib-this-offseason/

I like him, but he's also a FA after this year

[VonDoom]

Trade for Drew Brees. Saints aint going anywhere and were still built to win now.

This has been discussed here before, but no. If we're trying to make a big splash and trade for a possibly disgruntled QB, give me Stafford.

[MOtorboat]

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[BroncoJoe]

Ryan Nassib anyone?

http://www.sportsmedia101.com/newyorkgiants/2016/03/02/are-the-new-york-giants-considering-trading-backup-qb-ryan-nassib-this-offseason/

At least his college colors are orange and blue.

Coincidence? I think not!

[tripp]

At this point, I'd welcome Jay Cutler back if the price is right. He would thrive in a Kubiak system too.

That poor ******* has had some terrible OL for most of his career..

[MOtorboat]

That poor ******* has had some terrible OL for most of his career..

He's also not very good. So there's that.

[chazoe60]

I like him, but he's also a FA after this year

Good. Extra motivation.

[Ravage!!!]

He's also not very good. So there's that.

Yet you keep touting RG3... I think the irony is pretty ******* funny.

[BroncoWave]

Yet you keep touting RG3... I think the irony is pretty ******* funny.

RG3 has been to the playoffs as many times as Cutler has. Chew on that one for a minute.

[Ravage!!!]

RG3 has been to the playoffs as many times as Cutler has. Chew on that one for a minute.

I don't care.. chew on that. Cutler is better than RG3....period. Now we can go back and forth and say "that's your opinion" blah blah.

So chew on that, and then spit up your cud and chew on it some more.

[MOtorboat]

Let's not deal in opinions.

Griffin has a better completion percentage, a better quarterback rating and a lower interception percentage.

#facts

[Ravage!!!]

Let's not deal in opinions.

Griffin has a better completion percentage, a better quarterback rating and a lower interception percentage.

#facts

Fact. Brad Johnson has more super bowl wins than Dan Marino, Fran Tarkenton, and Dan Fouts.... combined.

[Northman]

I think I heard a turtle flush.

[BroncoJoe]

Fact. Brad Johnson has more super bowl wins than Dan Marino, Fran Tarkenton, and Dan Fouts.... combined.

So, you're saying the QB doesn't matter? Problem solved for us because we don't have one!

:beer:

[weazel]

So, you're saying the QB doesn't matter? Problem solved for us because we don't have one!

:beer:

This guy!

http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/blogs/tebow-hair-usatsi-06102013.jpg

[sneakers]

Tim Tebow

You think he would be any worse passing the ball than Manning?

edit: and you could get him for super cheap

[Bronco4ever]

I still just think RG3 has the most upside of anyone we could bring in. Kaep would be second, but I just don't trust his ability to read defenses properly or to put any sort of touch on his short throws. Fitz, Hoyer, and Sanchez aren't anything that we haven't seen from them already. McCarron might be ok, but I just don't think he's got that high of a ceiling. I'd be game to draft a QB in rounds 1-3 though.

[Ravage!!!]

That's interesting, because If I were choosign betweek Kaep and RG3, I would pick Kaep for the same reasons you said you would pick RG3.

[elsid13]

I'd give them cswil and $1,000,000 just to take that POS away from here.

I doubt anyone wants a million pesos or cswill

[elsid13]

Let's not deal in opinions.

Griffin has a better completion percentage, a better quarterback rating and a lower interception percentage.

#facts

Fact RGIII was hated by his WR, o-line and our HC's mentor and friend.

[DenBronx]

Trade for Drew Brees. Saints aint going anywhere and were still built to win now.

This has been discussed here before, but no. If we're trying to make a big splash and trade for a possibly disgruntled QB, give me Stafford.


I'm not opposed to that. Both of those QBs would be better options than anyone on the market. What other teams that are trying to rebuild would be willing to trade their QB?

[DenBronx]

Trade for Drew Brees. Saints aint going anywhere and were still built to win now.

Ugh. I love Drew Brees, but are we going to be THOSE GUYS?

And Brees wouldn't fit in a Kubes system any better than... an old guy. And Brees is already considered an old guy in the NFL.


Yeah but...hey, he might have 2-3 solid years left with a team built to win now. We would be dangerous on offense and I don't think our defense misses a beat with Mailik gone. I can easily see Shaq Barret or Shane Ray transitioning. The trolls are forgetting we're pretty damn stacked on defense.

Brees is a damn smart QB, very mobile and still playing at a high level. The Saints are going nowhere so ....hey make a call and see if they bite.

[DenBronx]

Anyone know what Brees cap is for this year?


I think I'll seriously hate it if Kap comes here. I just can't stand that guy at all. I hope all it is, is Elway trying to not show his hand. Elway values a franchise QB more than anything and doubt all he is trying to do it divert other teams attention away from the real QB he wants.

[dogfish]

NFLN reporting that we've been in contact with fitpatrick's agent. . .

[VonDoom]

Anyone know what Brees cap is for this year?

$30 million, but I believe he was going to restructure? Not sure if OTC is up to date as far as that goes. Either way, they made that bed and had to pay him a $10 million roster bonus, so he's pretty much untradeable now.

[VonDoom]

NFLN reporting that we've been in contact with fitpatrick's agent. . .

Makes sense. Doing their diligence on everyone out there.

Of course, Fitzpatrick's agent is also Brock's agent.

[Lancane]

Makes sense. Doing their diligence on everyone out there.

Of course, Fitzpatrick's agent is also Brock's agent.

Don't think it matters.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

Sign Fitz. Draft Paxton or Dak.

[Lancane]

We need you Obi-Wan Fitzpatrick, before Emperor Elway decides to give into the darkside! :lol:

[tomjonesrocks]

On The Drive they were saying Denver and SF have agreed on necessary compensation for Kaepernick but the Browns were still in the mix.

Kaep just doesn't seem like a guy for this organization. The douche with the sideways hat and headphones at the press conference playing QB in Denver? That's the guy?

[Dapper Dan]

RG3 has been to the playoffs as many times as Cutler has. Choke on that, slapnuts!

fify

[Lancane]

Here is and idea, Denver trades their second pick to San Francisco for Kaepernick then trade Kaepernick to Miami for Tannehill...lol. Then both teams get a quarterback who is a better for their schemes. Okay, not likely but my brain is fried! :lol:

[Dapper Dan]

Sign Fitz. Draft Paxton or Dak.

Hey sexy, welcome back.

[Poet]

Maybe we need to get Keeper's input on this, but I'm still waiting to hear a reasonable explanation as to why Cincy would be motivated to move McCarron.

I'm going to guess it would because some crazy team started offering first and second rounders...

He's insurance for if Dalton gets hurt or regresses. Mike Brown loved him coming out of college, I don't think we would trade him unless it was an astronomical price.

[Poet]

Jay Culter is better than RG3. RG3 is a viable option. Kaep isn't if SF really wants a first rounder for him.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 2h

Here's a sentiment not many have shared recently: Colin Kaepernick wants to play in Cleveland. Respects Hue Jackson. Browns-Niners talking.

[CoachChaz]

I'm going to guess it would because some crazy team started offering first and second rounders...

He's insurance for if Dalton gets hurt or regresses. Mike Brown loved him coming out of college, I don't think we would trade him unless it was an astronomical price.

Add the fact that his contract is almost literally peanuts and I think we can scratch hi name completely off the list

[Joel]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 2h

Here's a sentiment not many have shared recently: Colin Kaepernick wants to play in Cleveland. Respects Hue Jackson. Browns-Niners talking.
All these good-but-not-great players like Jackson, Oz and Kaep saying THEY "want" this keeps making ME want them to get it elsewhere.

The reigning SB Champs won't BEG you self-important so-and-sos to play for us.

[tripp]

Do QB's like not playing under Kubiak's offense, or are they just afraid to play under Peyton's shadow?

[TXBRONC]

Do QB's like not playing under Kubiak's offense, or are they just afraid to play under Peyton's shadow?

Flacco flourished in that system.

[artie_dale]

Do QB's like not playing under Kubiak's offense, or are they just afraid to play under Peyton's shadow?

I could see how non-mobile QBs wouldn't prefer Kubes' offense.

But, if thereare were a reason mobile QBs don't like playing in Kubes' offense, maybe its because they know rolling out may lead to injury. Which would be hard to accept since mobile QBs scramble more times than they should anyway.

[pulse]

http://i.imgur.com/keaLs.gif

[slim]

I never noticed how much Tebow looks like Jared Allen.

[slim]

The Browns just released Johnny dumbshit.

Man, what a waste.

[Poet]

The Browns just released Johnny dumbshit.

Man, what a waste.

He is a weak armed, diminutive, unsophisticated, and devoid of actual QB talent. He could have had the drive and mind of Peyton Manning and he still would have struggled.

He needs help. I don't know if he'll get it.

[CoachChaz]

He is a weak armed, diminutive, unsophisticated, and devoid of actual QB talent. He could have had the drive and mind of Peyton Manning and he still would have struggled.

He needs help. I don't know if he'll get it.

Not advocating taking a look, but all drama put aside and sample size taken into consideration...his growth from year one to year two was pretty significant.

[Poet]

Not advocating taking a look, but all drama put aside and sample size taken into consideration...his growth from year one to year two was pretty significant.

He looked awful at all stages of his career. I don't think he really improved.

[artie_dale]

I never noticed how much Tebow looks like Jared Allen.

Now THAT is some funny shit.

[artie_dale]

I wouldn't mind Johnny Manziel on the super cheap. But, I'd rather they give Siemian the keys if we need someone that bad.

[BroncoWave]

I wouldn't mind Johnny Manziel on the super cheap. But, I'd rather they give Siemian the keys if we need someone that bad.

According to some stuff I have read from Andrew Mason lately, the Broncos don't think Simean is really even close to ready to take over as starter.

[artie_dale]

According to some stuff I have read from Andrew Mason lately, the Broncos don't think Simean is really even close to ready to take over as starter.

THAT is how highly I think of Manzeil.

[ursak]

Kyle Orton was a starter.

[NightTerror218]

Johnny football is on the waiver wire......will he be claimed?

[CoachChaz]

He looked awful at all stages of his career. I don't think he really improved.

2015 QBR

Osweiler - 48.8 in 7 games
Manziel - 54.7 in 6 games

[Poet]

2015 QBR

Osweiler - 48.8 in 7 games
Manziel - 54.7 in 6 games

I'm not exactly a huge endorser of Brock. When I look at the mobile guys, if a team were to go a route, I don't see Manziel's ceiling being all that, well, promising.

[CoachChaz]

I'm not exactly a huge endorser of Brock. When I look at the mobile guys, if a team were to go a route, I don't see Manziel's ceiling being all that, well, promising.

Keep in mind, I did say I wasn't advocating bringing him in. I'm just saying that looking at the information, he did significantly improve from year 1 to year 2, so no one knows what kind of progress he could make if his head wasnt filled with shit.

[DenBronx]

Hmmm I am thinking the opposite here. I believe Manziel has way more upside that Brock but the problem is he is a knucklehead and not professional in the least. I see Brock nothing more than a mid tier QB. In fact Fitzpatrick is an upgrade over Brock. But Maniziel definitely has the physical tools to be a special player. His biggest obstacle is himself.

[Joel]

2015 QBR

Osweiler - 48.8 in 7 games
Manziel - 54.7 in 6 games
I'm obliged to give ESPN credit: When it seemed impossible ANY stat could be more arcane or useless than the standard PRS, they found a way to create one.

Sorry, but in this case I think too many Aggies spoil the broth. Johnny Fireball has "two-percenter" written all over him: That's not how we just won a SB. ;)

[Poet]

Hmmm I am thinking the opposite here. I believe Manziel has way more upside that Brock but the problem is he is a knucklehead and not professional in the least. I see Brock nothing more than a mid tier QB. In fact Fitzpatrick is an upgrade over Brock. But Maniziel definitely has the physical tools to be a special player. His biggest obstacle is himself.

How? He has a weak arm, most of his big plays come from chucking the ball up, Marvin Lewis called him a midget. You can't get styled upon by Marvin Lewis and make it in the league, DB. It's science.

To me he is a really crappy version of RG3, Kaep, or even Vince Young.

[Poet]

Keep in mind, I did say I wasn't advocating bringing him in. I'm just saying that looking at the information, he did significantly improve from year 1 to year 2, so no one knows what kind of progress he could make if his head wasnt filled with shit.

I feel you bro.

[CoachChaz]

Hmmm I am thinking the opposite here. I believe Manziel has way more upside that Brock but the problem is he is a knucklehead and not professional in the least. I see Brock nothing more than a mid tier QB. In fact Fitzpatrick is an upgrade over Brock. But Maniziel definitely has the physical tools to be a special player. His biggest obstacle is himself.

Agreed. One of the things that I got to witness and that impressed me about Manziel in college is what happened from his Heisman winning redshirt Freshman year to his sophomore year. He was much more efficient and accurate and he let plays develop more instead of immediately taking off and running. So, I know he has the capacity to develop and in reality...we dont know what his ceiling really is. But until he figures out his life outside of football...no one will ever know.

I like the Casserly notion that if you need one...get two. So I'd be okay if Denver brought him in on a VERY friendly team deal to see if he figures it out. If he doesn't...no loss.

[CoachChaz]

I'm obliged to give ESPN credit: When it seemed impossible ANY stat could be more arcane or useless than the standard PRS, they found a way to create one.

Sorry, but in this case I think too many Aggies spoil the broth. Johnny Fireball has "two-percenter" written all over him: That's not how we just won a SB. ;)

I just used QBR as a means to not have to type out all of their stats side by side. If anyone wants to go look and compare Oz's numbers on a Super Bowl team to Manziel's on the Browns, they can feel free to do the research themselves. But if all of this is still an indication that Manziel has no future simply based on his skill...then what does that also say about Brock "oh my God, I cant believe we let him walk for a measly 18 mil per year" Osweiler?

[Joel]

I just used QBR as a means to not have to type out all of their stats side by side. If anyone wants to go look and compare Oz's numbers on a Super Bowl team to Manziel's on the Browns, they can feel free to do the research themselves. But if all of this is still an indication that Manziel has no future simply based on his skill...then what does that also say about Brock "oh my God, I cant believe we let him walk for a measly 18 mil per year" Osweiler?
Fair enough; painting it as an either/or is probably a false dichotomy. But that cuts both ways: If Oz was up and down with the SB Champs and falls flat on his face in Houston, what does it say that Manziel only MARGINALLY outperformed that disaster? "They BOTH suck" is a very plausible possibility.

[CoachChaz]

Fair enough; painting it as an either/or is probably a false dichotomy. But that cuts both ways: If Oz was up and down with the SB Champs and falls flat on his face in Houston, what does it say that Manziel only MARGINALLY outperformed that disaster? "They BOTH suck" is a very plausible possibility.

Absolutely

[Poet]

Hey Chaz, what do you think of McCarron?

[Lancane]

Since I am the only one to vote for Sanchez do I win a prize? LMFAO

[TXBRONC]

Since I am the only one to vote for Sanchez do I win a prize? LMFAO

Your $5 gift card to K-Mart is in the mail.