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Northman
02-13-2016, 12:51 PM
(Using the Fanspeak Simulator) (7 round Mock)

**This Mock does include the comp picks as well as trades**


38: R2P7
OT SHON COLEMAN
AUBURN

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STRENGTHS Very long and gets maximizing disruption from arm length. Above average play strength with powerful upper body. Extremely physical with backpack full of nasty with him. Drive blocker who uproots defenders and creates space. Latches onto defenders with big, strong hands. Gets chippy as run blocker and looks for aggressive finish. Pass sets are generally balanced with decent slide to the edge and ready hands. Has ability to redirect inside against stunts. Very heavy hands. Uses his punch as a measure of force and intimidation. Fires his hands from inside his frame and lands with proper placement. Able to play in space. Relatively smooth climbs to second level and mirrors oncoming traffic looking to engage. Has played on left and right side. Held his own against Myles Garrett from Texas A&M losing badly just once on inside spin move.


WEAKNESSES Base will get too wide hindering balance. Leans into contact in pass sets and consistently plays with weight too far forward. Feet deaden when punching, opening door around the corner. Inconsistent footwork in general. Lunges at rushers trying to turn corner rather than sliding feet into position. Has habit of leading with head down and will miss run targets at times. Got away with holding in college. Doesn't bring feet thru contact in run game and has trouble sustaining without mauling. Needs hands to control defender rather than just punish. Will turn 25 as a rookie after sitting out two years overcoming a leukemia diagnosis in 2010.




63: R2P32
DE SHILIQUE CALHOUN
MICHIGAN STATE

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STRENGTHS: Lining up mostly at left defensive end, he does an excellent job using his long strides to gain instant momentum, leaning into blockers to transition that speed into power. He can do damage from both sides of the line. Has a fluid lower body and bends well off the edge with natural flexibility to curve the arc.
Often wins the edge with a straight speed rush, using his initial get-off and long strides to beat the tackle to the corner. Slips blocks with his quick feet and initial momentum to crash the pocket, showing a relentless play style to keep blockers busy.


Calhoun has shown improved hand use and pass rush moves, putting more thought into his moves and using his length to stack and shed with a violent mentality. He is stout at the point of attack to hold his ground vs. the run. Shows impressive strength, length and even agility when run defending.
He is coordinated in space to easily change directions and keeps his feet well, protecting against cut blocks. Does an excellent job playing the edges and holding contain. Does a nice job using his length to jolt blockers.



WEAKNESSES: Calhoun isn't as strong as he looks right now and is missing a power element to his game as he's too easily slowed or stonewalled at contact. He loses the leverage battle too often and his ball awareness tends to run hot/cold. His snap anticipation and technique are both underdeveloped.
Bad habit of lowering his head at contact, losing sight of his target. Calhoun needs to be a better finisher in the pocket, playing too hard and out of control at times, leaving production on the field.




95: R3P32
WR RASHARD HIGGINS (WR/ST)
COLORADO STATE

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Strengths:


Great speed




Flawless release
17 TDs in 2014 - an expert of getting open in the end zone
A monster after the catch
Dangerous in space
Fancy footwork
Not awful at blocking
Good vision
Often gives routes a 2nd effort
Can make contestant grabs
Great coordination on over-the-shoulder throws
Viable deep threat
Got some toe tap magic


Weaknesses:


A little small for the NFL
Struggled with a hamstring injury
Uses his chest to catch some balls
Acceleration isn't excellent
Concentration issues
Made quite a few easy drops in college
Runs great routes at times, but gets slippery
Isn't doing much on run plays

Northman
02-13-2016, 01:00 PM
99: R3P36
ILB SCOOBY WRIGHT III
ARIZONA

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/282/files/2015/12/ncaa-football-ucla-arizona-590x900.jpg



STRENGTHS: Quick, instinctive and relentless, Wright is a classic tackling machine at inside linebacker. He's consistently in position to make big plays in part due to his excellent diagnosis skills, showing excellent timing to jump the snap count and squeeze through gaps to make plays behind the line of scrimmage, including when rushing the quarterback.
Complementing Wright's awareness is good athleticism, including the balance, lateral agility and active hands to avoid would-be blockers in the hole. He possesses good (but not great) speed to the flanks but is made faster due to his recognition, frequently slicing through the line on toss plays wide to bottle up backs before they have a chance to turn the corner.
Wright is generally a reliable wrap-up tackler who isn't afraid to leave his feet to deliver a big blow on the ballcarrier. He has active hands and keen spatial awareness to rip or punch out the ball (recording six forced fumbles in 2014) as he's or another defender are making the tackle.



WEAKNESSES: Though listed at a prototypical inside linebacker size of 6-feet, 246 pounds, Wright does not possess an ideal build for the position. He possesses a bit of a "beach build" with a relatively slim lower half which causes him to struggle to anchor.
His production was inflated by spinning off would-be blockers and tracking down ballcarriers in pursuit, as well the action being funneled to him in Arizona's unique 3-3-5 spread defensive alignment. He was often asked to rush the quarterback rather than drop into coverage at Arizona and may lack the fluidity and straight-line speed to handle third down duties in today's pass-happy NFL.
He will overrun plays, leaving himself and his teammates vulnerable to cutbacks. He has a tendency to leave his feet to tackle, often connecting for impressive hits but lunging at air occasionally, as well.
The surgically-repaired meniscus (left knee) and foot sprain which limited Wright to just three games in 2015 will need an evaluation from NFL doctors at the Combine.




104: R4P5
CB MAURICE CANADY
VIRGINIA

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STRENGTHS: He has ideal height and length for the position with the coordinated athleticism to shadow receivers at all levels of the field. Canady accelerates well to smoothly change directions. Canady plays with nonstop competitiveness and shows a keen awareness vs. the run.

WEAKNESSES: Displays wild footwork in coverage and needs to calm his transition to stay under control ? he is able to recover after false steps in the ACC, but that won't be the case in the NFL. Lacks ideal strength to push through blocks and is more of a hugger than overpowering finisher.



136: R4P37
RB C.J. PROSISE
NOTRE DAME

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/25/files/2015/10/c.j.-prosise-quincy-adams-ncaa-football-navy-notre-dame-850x560.jpg



Strengths:

After redshirting his first year in South Bend, Prosise actually played 13 games as a wide receiver and was active on special teams. During that season, he totaled seven receptions for 72 yards. He followed that up the next season with 29 receptions for 516 yards and two touchdowns while leading the team in special teams tackles. His experience in catching the ball is fairly deep and it shows in his play.
He is an experienced route-runner for someone at his position and displays the soft hands necessary to make some difficult catches. Despite being the starting running back with over 1000 yards rushing, Prosise has still managed to total 26 receptions for 308 yards and a touchdown so far this season. He will go into the league compared to some of the better receiving backs like Arian Foster or DeMarco Murray.

Weaknesses:
While his experience as a receiver helps him to be a threat from the backfield in the passing game, it also demonstrates his inexperience at the position as a whole. This will be something on the minds of scouts, coaches, and executives alike. While it shouldn’t hinder his abilities in the NFL, his lack of experience will give him a label as a “project player”, no matter how unjustifiable it may be. Prosise will have to do a good job demonstrating the nuances of the position he’s learned in just one year of playing at the position. If he can demonstrate this at the combine and his pro-day, he can alleviate some of those fears.

While I wouldn’t necessarily consider this a weakness, this is one of those key areas of inexperience that Prosise will definitely need to continue to improve. There are times where Prosise identifies a player leaking into the backfield and there are others where he steps up against the wrong hole and the quarterback gets sacked. In a press conference after Notre Dame beat Navy, 42-24, Head Coach Brian Kelly identified this saying (http://www.und.com/sports/m-footbl/recaps/101015aah.html), “I think he’s (Prosise) still evolving within that role (running back). Missed a couple of protections today, but I think what I like the most about him is he is in that learning curve…”

Northman
02-13-2016, 01:02 PM
144: R5P5
FB GLENN GRONKOWSKI
KANSAS STATE

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STRENGTHS: Has proven himself as a versatile talent as a rusher, receiver and blocker. A versatile talent, Gronkowski established himself as one of the better blockers at the college level early in his career. Made the most of his limited touches with seven career touchdowns.



WEAKNESSES: Doesn't have the same size as his older brother. Didn't receive many chances to touch the ball (31 career offensive touches).


IN OUR VIEW: On the surface, leaving school a year early looked like a surprising move because rarely do underclassmen fullbacks leave early for the NFL Draft. But Gronkowski graduated in December and has nothing left to prove at the college level. If he feels ready for the next step in his life, then the move makes sense. Another year of college football likely won't push his draft value any higher.


Gronkowski will now compete with Northwestern's Dan Vitale and Wisconsin's Derek Watt to be the first fullback drafted in the 2016 class. Gronkowski is expected to be drafted on Day 3, likely in the fifth-to-seventh round range.
If he had a different last name, would Gronkowski still be considered a draftable player? We'll never know that answer, but his tape does speak for itself. And it shows a player worthy of late-round consideration.




146: R5P7
P DREW KASER
TEXAS A&M

https://cmgstatesmancollegesports.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/182994356-drew-kaser-of-the-texas-a-m-aggies-punts-the-gettyimages.jpg?w=640




Positives• Highly Consistent in yardage
• Has a very strong leg, 70 yard career best
• Good directional ability
• Frequently places inside the 20, avoiding touchbacks
• Very productive in college
• Smooth, quick punting technique
• Good hang time, 5.0 seconds
Negatives• Hang time can be inconsistent




219: R6P41
OLB IAN SEAU
NEVADA

http://college2nfl.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/ian-seau-nevada.jpg




Strengths:has great size
is a good pass rusher
a solid tackler
versatile
can play OLB
and DE. Has a nonstop motor
a pure play maker for the Nevada defense
and he looks faster than his projected 40 time indicates.
Weaknesses:The only negative may be the conference he played in

Northman
02-13-2016, 01:16 PM
226: R7P7
S TRAE ELSTON
OLE MISS

http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/TraeElston-650x342.jpg




STRENGTHS WEAKNESSESThe hard-hitting, extremely aggressive Elson provides quite the complement to free safety Cody Prewitt in the Rebels' secondary. While not as reliable in coverage as his teammate, Elston attacks downfield in the running game, popping off the screen due to his closing speed.


233: R7P14
RB KEENAN REYNOLDS (RB/ST)
NAVY

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/25/files/2016/01/keenan-reynolds-ncaa-football-military-bowl-pittsburgh-vs-navy-850x560.jpg





STRENGTHS: The move from quarterback should come naturally to him because Reynolds' running ability is what made him so dynamic in Navy's option offense, using his vision and shifty moves to create on his own.Shows the lower body athleticism to make quick cuts and fluidly redirect his momentum, stringing together his moves to pick through the defense. He reads the field well and has the speed to beat the linebacker to the edge.
Despite limited experience, appeared natural looking the ball into his hands before bursting downfield at Shrine Game practices. Brings versatility for a play-caller with his ability to line up in the backfield and take direct snaps, and has spent time practicing as a punt returner.



WEAKNESSES: Making the transition from quarterback to running back. Scouts will be paying attention to Reynolds during workouts when he doesn't have the ball to see how he blocks, runs routes and acclimates himself to the new position.
With his limited build, Reynolds doesn't have the body power to run through contact, which shows as an inside runner. And with 32 career fumbles at Navy, he also needs to improve his ball security. Unproven as a pass-catcher out of the backfield with only one career catch in college.




251: R7P32
QB CODY KESSLER
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA

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STRENGTHS: Put up big numbers in coach Steve Sarkisian's pro-style offense, which calls for a variety of downfield throws, including NFL staples like quick slants, deep posts and outs and wheel routes. His comfort with the system and patience are clear as he often checks second and third reads before passing. Shows great anticipation, firing passes before receivers break into their routes, along with good pocket awareness.
Kessler is pretty effective at creating space in the pocket, exhibiting light feet and spatial awareness while keeping his eyes downfield. Kessler also shows impressive accuracy on the move, making him dangerous even as the pocket breaks down and on the designed roll-outs in Sarkisian's pro-style scheme.
When he is forced to run, Kessler shows his competitiveness, surprising defenders with sneaky athleticism and leg drive.



WEAKNESSES: Lacks ideal size at 6-1, 215 pounds and arm strength. Challenged by Sarkisian at times to be more aggressive and give his tight ends and receivers opportunities to make plays downfield.
Despite significant starting experience, appeared rattled at times when his protection broke down.
Struggles to push the ball downfield on throws longer than 15 yards. Many of his passes are underneath routes or dump-offs to running backs, and lacks the same zip throwing to the outside unless he can fully step into the pass.

Northman
02-13-2016, 01:17 PM
So how did i do? Let the flames begin to burn......

gregbroncs
02-13-2016, 03:50 PM
I'd love to see them get the punter from Utah (Hackett). If your drafting a punter why not go for the best in college? He doesn't get enough credit because a lot of his kicks in college were rugby style, but the ones that were not are still great punts. He pins teams in the red zone a lot and gets plenty of air and control on his kicks whether they are rugby style or standard.

underrated29
02-13-2016, 05:51 PM
I like it. I think CJ prosise goes earlier. I bet he is a 3rd rd guy.

Everyone is on the scooby train. I just watched a bit of him this morning. I was not disappointed, but not impressed either. Will have to watch more on him.


Do you like Sterline Shepard? He is the slot wr I love!!! I like Pharoh too.



My main thing is I doubt we draft a T. We have CLady, Tysam, Schofield...Thats plenty, we dont need anymore High Round draft picks there.

Valar Morghulis
02-13-2016, 06:04 PM
My main thing is I doubt we draft a T. We have CLady, Tysam, Schofield...Thats plenty, we dont need anymore High Round draft picks there.

**** that. We need some depth at tackle, schofield sucks balls, clady might be done and ty is still getting evaluated

underrated29
02-13-2016, 06:13 PM
**** that. We need some depth at tackle, schofield sucks balls, clady might be done and ty is still getting evaluated



At the moment we have 5 of them. Clady, tysam, schofield, harris, polombus. It seems like the first 3 will be here for sure (unless we trade for Joe T- which I still suspect happens). We do not need anymore tackles, at least not early. I do expect a high upside late round T to be taken, but we need C depth, and G depth.

Tysam, did better at RT and LT being thrown into the fire than any of the T that played for us this year.

NightTerror218
02-13-2016, 11:27 PM
I like it. I think CJ prosise goes earlier. I bet he is a 3rd rd guy.

Everyone is on the scooby train. I just watched a bit of him this morning. I was not disappointed, but not impressed either. Will have to watch more on him.

Do you like Sterline Shepard? He is the slot wr I love!!! I like Pharoh too.

My main thing is I doubt we draft a T. We have CLady, Tysam, Schofield...Thats plenty, we dont need anymore High Round draft picks there.

Scooby will not last to the third round. He is very good. He awards

Unanimous*All-American*(2014)
Pac-12*Defensive Player of the Year (2014)
First-team*All-Pac-12*(2014)
Bronko Nagurski Trophy*(2014)
Rotary Lombardi Award*(2014)
Chuck Bednarik Award*(2014)
9th Place in*Heisman Trophy*voting (2014)
Jack Lambert Award*(2014)
New Mexico Bowl Defensive MVP*(2015)

He was injured most of 2015

Northman
02-14-2016, 11:50 AM
If your drafting a punter why not go for the best in college?

Well, that would be like saying why dont i draft every player that is best at their position. Its all about availability and who is there when Denver picks so its not that i think Hackett is a scrub but that i think Drew is up there in talent and available for us without first addressing some other needs. My response is obviously not meant to be flippant or sarcastic but im sure in a perfect world it would be nice to land the best player at every position if possible. Know what i mean?

Northman
02-14-2016, 11:56 AM
Do you like Sterline Shepard? He is the slot wr I love!!! I like Pharoh too.




Honestly dont know much about him.

As to Terror's opinion Scooby wont be there in the 3rd there are some who believe he will be.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/2083731/scooby-wright-iii
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000604521/article/scout-projects-lb-scooby-wright-as-possible-thirdrounder

underrated29
02-14-2016, 12:29 PM
Check out sterling. I fear he. May go earlier than 3 but I really really like him.

Northman
02-14-2016, 12:38 PM
Check out sterling. I fear he. May go earlier than 3 but I really really like him.

Yea, looking at his draft position it looks like he is slated for a 2nd or 3rd round. I cant remember where he ranks on Fanspeak in terms of higher or lower than guys like Will Fuller, Tyler Boyd, and Higgins but im sure he is in the mix.

IN terms of rankings this is CBS's big board with Wideouts.




6
WR
LAQUON TREADWELL - OLE MISS
23

WR
COREY COLEMAN - BAYLOR


36

WR
MICHAEL THOMAS - OHIO STATE


40

WR
JOSH DOCTSON - TCU


43

WR
WILL FULLER - NOTRE DAME


46

WR
BRAXTON MILLER - OHIO STATE


58

WR
TYLER BOYD - PITTSBURGH


61

WR
PHAROH COOPER - SOUTH CAROLINA


72

WR
RASHARD HIGGINS - COLORADO STATE


76

WR
STERLING SHEPARD - OKLAHOMA


86

WR
LEONTE CARROO - RUTGERS


93

WR
KENNY LAWLER - CALIFORNIA


97

WR
DE'RUNNYA WILSON - MISSISSIPPI STATE


101
WR
PAUL MCROBERTS - SOUTHEAST MISSO

Northman
02-14-2016, 12:42 PM
For the life of me i cant understand why Braxton Miller is rated so high. I dont remember him being all that great as a wideout.

Northman
02-14-2016, 01:05 PM
Here's a question i would pose to anyone who wants to chime in. I just did another mock (for fun) and surprisingly Ezy Elliott fell into our laps at 31. Generally im not fond of taking RB's high but i do feel Elliott is the best back in the draft so would you pull the trigger and draft him if he fell that far? Or would you still go in another direction? Also, in this mock i went ahead and took UR's favorite Wideout to appease him even though Higgins was still ranked higher and still obtainable at that moment. :)


31: R1P31
RB EZEKIEL ELLIOTT
OHIO STATE


63: R2P32
OLB SCOOBY WRIGHT
ARIZONA


87: R3P24
G LANDON TURNER
NORTH CAROLINA


99: R3P36
WR STERLING SHEPARD
OKLAHOMA


136: R4P37
CB MAURICE CANADY
VIRGINIA


144: R5P5
P DREW KASER
TEXAS A&M


219: R6P41
QB KEVIN HOGAN
STANFORD


226: R7P7
FB QUAYVON HICKS
GEORGIA

LTC Pain
02-14-2016, 02:42 PM
Here's a question i would pose to anyone who wants to chime in. I just did another mock (for fun) and surprisingly Ezy Elliott fell into our laps at 31. Generally im not fond of taking RB's high but i do feel Elliott is the best back in the draft so would you pull the trigger and draft him if he fell that far? Or would you still go in another direction? Also, in this mock i went ahead and took UR's favorite Wideout to appease him even though Higgins was still ranked higher and still obtainable at that moment. :)


31: R1P31
RB EZEKIEL ELLIOTT
OHIO STATE


63: R2P32
OLB SCOOBY WRIGHT
ARIZONA


87: R3P24
G LANDON TURNER
NORTH CAROLINA


99: R3P36
WR STERLING SHEPARD
OKLAHOMA


136: R4P37
CB MAURICE CANADY
VIRGINIA


144: R5P5
P DREW KASER
TEXAS A&M


219: R6P41
QB KEVIN HOGAN
STANFORD


226: R7P7
FB QUAYVON HICKS
GEORGIA

I like it North, make it so!

NightTerror218
02-14-2016, 05:13 PM
(Using the Fanspeak Simulator) (7 round Mock)

**This Mock does include the comp picks as well as trades**

38: R2P7
OT SHON COLEMAN
AUBURN

63: R2P32
DE SHILIQUE CALHOUN
MICHIGAN STATE

95: R3P32
WR RASHARD HIGGINS (WR/ST)
COLORADO STATE



I like it with exceptional to waiting so long on a safety.

I do not see Scooby falling out of 2nd round.

And do you think we need a punter after Colquitt had his best games of his career in the playoffs?

LTC Pain
02-14-2016, 05:25 PM
I have a punter in my mock draft as well. Up until SB50 Colquitt hadn't been consistent or impressive. And, yes, he had an awesome SB50! Hopefully he can keep it up against some competition in training camp and into next season.

NightTerror218
02-14-2016, 05:38 PM
I have a punter in my mock draft as well. Up until SB50 Colquitt hadn't been consistent or impressive. And, yes, he had an awesome SB50! Hopefully he can keep it up against some competition in training camp and into next season.

Trade a pick on punter then chance on another Malik or travathan? Just saying, UDFA is good place to find a kicker.

Northman
02-14-2016, 05:43 PM
I like it with exceptional to waiting so long on a safety.

To be honest im not sure how important safety is right now. I think if we keep the Dline and LB intact and add depth there i think we can wait to take a safety later in the draft. IMO


I do not see Scooby falling out of 2nd round.

He may or may not, as i posted in my other post most sites ive been visiting as far as the prospect rankings has Scooby going between the 3rd and 4th rounds. Why that is im not sure but its certainly possible that Scooby doesnt make it past the 2nd as the draft is unpredictable.


And do you think we need a punter after Colquitt had his best games of his career in the playoffs?

As LTC pointed out Colquitt had a great SB but most of the year was very inconsistent and that concerns me. Everything that i have read so far on Kaser is that he is a good and consistent punter. I dont think it would be a bad idea to give Colquitt some competition to be honest.

I dont think Peyton is coming back to Denver which means out QB situation is going to be very green still unless we sign a Vet. So with that in mind i think its prudent that Denver for the time being keeps the defense at a strong level while trying to improve the offense around the QB so that if we have to try and win another title the way we did this year it will put minimal pressure on the QB until the QB gets up to speed.

underrated29
02-14-2016, 08:13 PM
For the life of me i cant understand why Braxton Miller is rated so high. I dont remember him being all that great as a wideout.


I like Shepard way better than Pharos and they have pharoh rated higher. Shepard makes me have a tingly feeling downstairs just like I get when you post, Northy....no homo....maybe a little. :shrug:


Here's a question i would pose to anyone who wants to chime in. I just did another mock (for fun) and surprisingly Ezy Elliott fell into our laps at 31. Generally im not fond of taking RB's high but i do feel Elliott is the best back in the draft so would you pull the trigger and draft him if he fell that far? Or would you still go in another direction? Also, in this mock i went ahead and took UR's favorite Wideout to appease him even though Higgins was still ranked higher and still obtainable at that moment. :)


31: R1P31
RB EZEKIEL ELLIOTT
OHIO STATE


63: R2P32
OLB SCOOBY WRIGHT
ARIZONA


87: R3P24
G LANDON TURNER
NORTH CAROLINA


99: R3P36
WR STERLING SHEPARD
OKLAHOMA


136: R4P37
CB MAURICE CANADY
VIRGINIA


144: R5P5
P DREW KASER
TEXAS A&M


219: R6P41
QB KEVIN HOGAN
STANFORD


226: R7P7
FB QUAYVON HICKS
GEORGIA



Love the draft!!!!,!!!!,!!!,!!,


To answer your question though. NO!
Granted I have only begun to research players, and players I believe we would be interested in. Rb is one of them and Elliot too. But, I honestly don't see a major difference between him and prosise or .....shit forgot his name atm. He is a 2nd rd rb. Ken? Damn I have forgotten. To me, I just don't trust Elliott. He is the goods no doubt but, I don't see a Levon bell in him. A Todd gurley. A Clinton portis. I like Melvin Gordon much more than Elliott. Melvin was a rd 2 pick and sucked ass last year. ( I still maintain that he is going to be a very very very good rb). So for me, to burn a 1 on Elliott, I personally would decline. I see the reasoning behind it, but I feel there are other rb who would produce similirarliy and I have a lot of faith in CJ if we can make the OL onto more of a monster and less of a kitty cat.

Timmy!
02-14-2016, 08:47 PM
Prosise and mini Gronk plz.

LTC Pain
02-14-2016, 08:57 PM
I like Shepard way better than Pharos and they have pharoh rated higher. Shepard makes me have a tingly feeling downstairs just like I get when you post, Northy....no homo....maybe a little. :shrug:





Love the draft!!!!,!!!!,!!!,!!,


To answer your question though. NO!
Granted I have only begun to research players, and players I believe we would be interested in. Rb is one of them and Elliot too. But, I honestly don't see a major difference between him and prosise or .....shit forgot his name atm. He is a 2nd rd rb. Ken? Damn I have forgotten. To me, I just don't trust Elliott. He is the goods no doubt but, I don't see a Levon bell in him. A Todd gurley. A Clinton portis. I like Melvin Gordon much more than Elliott. Melvin was a rd 2 pick and sucked ass last year. ( I still maintain that he is going to be a very very very good rb). So for me, to burn a 1 on Elliott, I personally would decline. I see the reasoning behind it, but I feel there are other rb who would produce similirarliy and I have a lot of faith in CJ if we can make the OL onto more of a monster and less of a kitty cat.

Huh? Melvin Gordon was the 15th overall pick in the 2015 draft.

underrated29
02-14-2016, 09:01 PM
Huh? Melvin Gordon was the 15th overall pick in the 2015 draft.

Yeah he was. Mixed him up with perryman.

NightTerror218
02-15-2016, 12:34 AM
To be honest im not sure how important safety is right now. I think if we keep the Dline and LB intact and add depth there i think we can wait to take a safety later in the draft. IMO

He may or may not, as i posted in my other post most sites ive been visiting as far as the prospect rankings has Scooby going between the 3rd and 4th rounds. Why that is im not sure but its certainly possible that Scooby doesnt make it past the 2nd as the draft is unpredictable.

As LTC pointed out Colquitt had a great SB but most of the year was very inconsistent and that concerns me. Everything that i have read so far on Kaser is that he is a good and consistent punter. I dont think it would be a bad idea to give Colquitt some competition to be honest.

I dont think Peyton is coming back to Denver which means out QB situation is going to be very green still unless we sign a Vet. So with that in mind i think its prudent that Denver for the time being keeps the defense at a strong level while trying to improve the offense around the QB so that if we have to try and win another title the way we did this year it will put minimal pressure on the QB until the QB gets up to speed.

Scooby Wright would have been Luke keuchly of this year's draft if not for being injured almost all of this year.

Stewart and ward were banked up a lot. And we saw a drop in play with Stewart out. Waiting on safety when we might not have any backups could be a bad move.

Northman
02-15-2016, 07:31 AM
Scooby Wright would have been Luke keuchly of this year's draft if not for being injured almost all of this year.

Stewart and ward were banked up a lot. And we saw a drop in play with Stewart out. Waiting on safety when we might not have any backups could be a bad move.

I dont know, we seemed to still be ok over the course of the year when they got banged up, its not ideal but when you can pressure the QB as much as we can it helps quite a bit and thats really the catalyst to how effective the secondary can be defensively. Im really not to worried about our safety position overall.

Lancane
02-16-2016, 03:22 PM
Solid draft North, would not mind it at all.

BroncoBuckeye73
02-17-2016, 10:32 PM
As my name says im a Buckeye fan and Elliot is superior to Gordon and is easily the best back in this draft he runs, catches and blocks. Unfortunately he will be long gone at our pick I think we will go dline or oline in the first Spriggs from Indiana or Calhoune, Bullard or Washington will be at 31

Traveler
02-18-2016, 11:35 AM
Here's a question i would pose to anyone who wants to chime in. I just did another mock (for fun) and surprisingly Ezy Elliott fell into our laps at 31. Generally im not fond of taking RB's high but i do feel Elliott is the best back in the draft so would you pull the trigger and draft him if he fell that far? Or would you still go in another direction? Also, in this mock i went ahead and took UR's favorite Wideout to appease him even though Higgins was still ranked higher and still obtainable at that moment. :)


31: R1P31
RB EZEKIEL ELLIOTT
OHIO STATE

Northman, I've been messing around with Fanspeak too and I would love if Elliott made it to 31.

Hell, I would have no problem at all if they moved up to select him. Now that we don't have a QB that teams have to game plan against, the need to have a playmaker at the RB position becomes more prominent. CJ isn't a three down back and seems to take himself out of games quite frequently after only a few plays. Not sure why. Is it because he's injured, tired, or just out of shape?

Elliott is a well rounded three down bellcow back. He excels in pass protection and is a very good receiver. I'm of the opinion that Elway and company are resistant to investing a 1st round pick along the OL. If true, and he sticks to his comments about adding impact players with his 1st selection, this would be a no brainer IMO.

NightTerror218
02-18-2016, 11:46 AM
I am big Scooby Wright fan. Here is a small wrote up on ESPN about him.

Scooby Wright III, Arizona (6-foot-1, 246):*He was one of the best linebackers in America in 2014, winning the Nagurski Trophy, Lombardi Award and Bednarik Award. He had 163 tackles, 29 tackles for loss, 14 sacks and six forced fumbles in 2014. Knee and foot injuries in 2015 limited him to three games, where he had 23 tackles, 3.5 tackles for loss and two sacks. He returned for Arizona’s bowl game, but his medical evaluation at the combine will be important. If he’s available in the second or third round and the Lions go to another position early in the draft, he could be enticing.

Typical 4-3 MLB but dude has made instincts.

Traveler
02-18-2016, 12:13 PM
My latest Fanspeak Mock:

31: R1P31
LB JAYLON SMITH
NOTRE DAME

63: R2P32
G CODY WHITEHAIR
KANSAS STATE

95: R3P32
RB KENNETH DIXON
LOUISIANA TECH

99: R3P36
DE SHAWN OAKMAN
BAYLOR

136: R4P37
WR RASHARD HIGGINS
COLORADO STATE

144: R5P5
CB MAURICE CANADY
VIRGINIA

219: R6P41
OT BRANDON SHELL
SOUTH CAROLINA

226: R7P7
QB CODY KESSLER
USC

233: R7P14
S CLAYTON FEJEDEIEM
ILLINOIS

251: R7P32
P TOM HACKETT
UTAH

NightTerror218
02-18-2016, 03:03 PM
My sleeper.

Byron Marshall RB/WR Oregon Ducks
Precombine #s 5'9" 205# 4.52 40


Started college career as RB and then moved to WR.
2012 447 rush yards 5.1 ypc 4 TD
2013 1038 rush yards 6.2 ypc 14 TD
2014 392 rush yards 7.5 ypc 1 TD
1003 rec yards 13.6 ypc 6 TD
2015 injured

I like his size and has great hands. He was moved to WR because of new RB at Oregon but moved to WR to keep him on the field. Could be a nice late round pick Swiss army knife guy. Also handled KO return duties 2014.

BroncoBuckeye73
02-18-2016, 08:42 PM
Traveller I like the way you think with regards to Elliott. He is a very saavy back with good speed and great power. Watching OSU like I do I can say he is the real deal, does it all like you and I stated. The problem is I do not see how he falls near us and we may have to give up a lot to jump 10 or more spots in the draft to get him.

NightTerror218
02-18-2016, 10:42 PM
Traveller I like the way you think with regards to Elliott. He is a very saavy back with good speed and great power. Watching OSU like I do I can say he is the real deal, does it all like you and I stated. The problem is I do not see how he falls near us and we may have to give up a lot to jump 10 or more spots in the draft to get him.

I don't like how he throw coaches under the bus after a loss this season. Same game he announced he was going NFL.

Traveler
02-19-2016, 04:54 AM
Traveller I like the way you think with regards to Elliott. He is a very saavy back with good speed and great power. Watching OSU like I do I can say he is the real deal, does it all like you and I stated. The problem is I do not see how he falls near us and we may have to give up a lot to jump 10 or more spots in the draft to get him.

With the possibility of them having 10 draft picks they could do it if they choose to make a move. This team has only a few openings and ten picks will not make the final roster. The trend is not to select Rb's in the 1st round. I get that, but Elliott is a back that fits Kubiaks system perfectly. I'd have no problem if they made a move to get him.

Northman
02-19-2016, 06:25 AM
I don't like how he throw coaches under the bus after a loss this season. Same game he announced he was going NFL.

Meh, he is young and that is something that can be corrected.

G_Money
02-19-2016, 01:16 PM
Elliott is a very good back. I would rather have a top-flight tackle and a slightly lower-rated RB, but maybe we can address that OL in FA.

It'll get easier for all the backs when we get a better OL out there. Since I'm assuming Clady is not coming back and we need all our monies for the defense, the line HAS to be significantly upgraded in the draft. I don't expect to go for the first or second running back taken, but I suppose it's possible. I'm looking more at a guy like CJ Prosise later in the draft (probably because some of his runs remind me of TD and he's got a lot of upside) but I do agree we have to add another running back.

If the idea is to be a running team, get a line and some horses.

Northman
02-19-2016, 01:39 PM
I like Procise a lot, he is in a lot of my mock drafts but its hard not to see that Elliot is the better back of the bunch. But as Gmoney said if the Oline gets shored up better we can manage with guys like CJ and a guy like Procise as well.

underrated29
02-19-2016, 02:09 PM
Elliott is a very good back. I would rather have a top-flight tackle and a slightly lower-rated RB, but maybe we can address that OL in FA.

It'll get easier for all the backs when we get a better OL out there. Since I'm assuming Clady is not coming back and we need all our monies for the defense, the line HAS to be significantly upgraded in the draft. I don't expect to go for the first or second running back taken, but I suppose it's possible. I'm looking more at a guy like CJ Prosise later in the draft (probably because some of his runs remind me of TD and he's got a lot of upside) but I do agree we have to add another running back.

If the idea is to be a running team, get a line and some horses.



Prosise is pretty freaking awesome but I believe he will be a 3rd guy at the latest. Which to me, is at least 1 round too early to take a RB. If he is there in 4 or later, we have to pull the trigger. If not, my late round guy Tre Madden should be there in 5 or 6 and I believe with an OL he can produce like our own CJ does.

G_Money
02-19-2016, 03:19 PM
Prosise is pretty freaking awesome but I believe he will be a 3rd guy at the latest. Which to me, is at least 1 round too early to take a RB. If he is there in 4 or later, we have to pull the trigger. If not, my late round guy Tre Madden should be there in 5 or 6 and I believe with an OL he can produce like our own CJ does.

In the current mocks he's going around the 4th. Question is whether he gets down to us in the 4th or whether we bundle some picks to move around (cuz I doubt we're drafting 10 guys). I'm a big Prosise fan, so I wouldn't cry if we took him with our second 3rd round pick (compensatory for Julius Thomas). We've got a lot of options with that many draft picks, and we might even trade back out of the first into the middle of the second to give ourselves more flexibility depending on how the draft falls.

I'm not attached to any sequence of picks yet, just saying I would rather grab a 1st round OL and 3rd round RB than the other way round.

underrated29
02-19-2016, 04:13 PM
In the current mocks he's going around the 4th. Question is whether he gets down to us in the 4th or whether we bundle some picks to move around (cuz I doubt we're drafting 10 guys). I'm a big Prosise fan, so I wouldn't cry if we took him with our second 3rd round pick (compensatory for Julius Thomas). We've got a lot of options with that many draft picks, and we might even trade back out of the first into the middle of the second to give ourselves more flexibility depending on how the draft falls.

I'm not attached to any sequence of picks yet, just saying I would rather grab a 1st round OL and 3rd round RB than the other way round.

Thats fair, but I bet he moves up as we get closer. There are not too many RBs I like more than Prosise this year. I bet he is an early/mid 3rd.
I completely forgot we will likely have 2- 3rd rd picks this year. I would be fine with him there. I do believe we will be moving around a lot this draft and will do a lot of trading up. Not only do we not have room for 10 guys but our team is really well built that most of the depth positions are already filled too. Which means we should be shooting for quality not quantity in this draft. Id be fine with walking away with 5 players (even though we cant trade comp picks yet)

Northman
03-03-2016, 03:24 PM
Another random draft on Fanspeak for me. Just traded down once and got 4 picks from the Giants.


40: R2P9
G CODY WHITEHAIR
KANSAS STATE


63: R2P32
WR WILL FULLER
NOTRE DAME


95: R3P32
DT WILLIE HENRY
MICHIGAN


99: R3P36
OT LE'RAVEN CLARK
TEXAS TECH


110: R4P11
RB C.J. PROSISE
NOTRE DAME


136: R4P37
FB GLENN GRONKOWSKI
KANSAS STATE


144: R5P5
P DREW KASER
TEXAS A&M


149: R5P10
CB RASHARD ROBINSON
LSU


187: R6P9
S JORDAN LOMAX
IOWA


219: R6P41
QB KEVIN HOGAN
STANFORD


226: R7P7
ILB ANTONIO MORRISON
FLORIDA


233: R7P14
TE RYAN MALLECK
VIRGINIA TECH


251: R7P32
DT JOEL HEATH
MICHIGAN STATE

Northman
03-03-2016, 03:55 PM
This one should make Dapper happy.


1: R2P12
OT SHON COLEMAN
AUBURN


2: R2P32
WR TYLER BOYD
PITTSBURGH


3: R3P13
FB GLENN GRONKOWSKI
KANSAS STATE


4: R3P27
CB MAURICE CANADY
VIRGINIA


5: R3P36
DT CHRIS JONES
MISSISSIPPI STATE


6: R4P37
OLB IAN SEAU
NEVADA


7: R5P5
P TOM HACKETT
UTAH


8: R6P41
QB BRANDON DOUGHTY
WESTERN KENTUCKY


9: R7P7
RB KEENAN REYNOLDS
NAVY