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Denver Native (Carol)
01-28-2016, 11:50 AM
Clete Blakeman will be Super Bowl 50 referee, good news for the Broncos?


The NFL chose eighth year official Clete Blakeman as the head referee for Super Bowl 50. Blakeman will lead a seven-man crew of highly-graded officials.

Since 2010, when Blakeman became a referee, the Broncos have a 5-0 record in games where he was the head man. The Panthers have been 2-2 during the same span.

Blakeman has officiated five career playoff games. He has only manned one this year, the Green Bay-Arizona divisional game that had the botched coin toss in overtime.

rest - http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2016/01/27/clete-blakeman-will-be-super-bowl-50-referee-good-news-for-the-broncos/37617/

Denver Native (Carol)
01-28-2016, 11:54 AM
Denver Broncos ‏@Broncos 37m

#Broncos #SB50 wallpapers?

Yes, please! http://j.mp/1lUC9Au

Denver Broncos ‏@Broncos 3h

Looking back to Nov. 11, 2012:
• @MillerLite40 HAD A DAY and we #BeatThePanthers!

http://j.mp/1JGVnFb

Denver Broncos Retweeted
Broncos TV ‏@BroncosTV 11h

Super Bowl lead-up just as important as the game.

Kubiak on #Broncos #SB50 prep 📺 http://j.mp/23v7mwa

Denver Native (Carol)
01-28-2016, 12:01 PM
The Carolina Panthers opened as clear favorites Sunday over the Denver Broncos in Super Bowl 50. The public money has been backing them ever since.

"I can't remember a more one-sided betting Super Bowl," Nick Bogdanovich, director of trading for William Hill US, told ESPN in an email.

The Westgate was the Las Vegas sportsbook with the highest opening line for Carolina (-5.5) -- with most other books opening with the Panthers favored between 3.5 points and 4.5 points. Westgate's opening number was posted at 9:06 p.m. ET Sunday and lasted a mere 13 minutes before several four-figure wagers on the Broncos pushed the line down to Carolina -4, which was the Vegas consensus line on Sunday night.

rest - http://espn.go.com/chalk/story/_/id/14665376/one-sided-action-carolina-panthers-helps-move-super-bowl-50-line-las-vegas

Denver Native (Carol)
01-28-2016, 12:04 PM
CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- Carolina Panthers quarterback Cam Newton doesn't plan to change who he is or what he says just because he's preparing for the Super Bowl and all the hype that comes with it.

Newton's response to critics he'll face heading into the Feb. 7 title game against the Denver Broncos will be the same it has been since he entered the NFL.

"I've said this since day one," Newton said. "I'm an African-American quarterback that may scare a lot of people because they haven't seen nothing that they can compare me to."

rest - http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14661081/cam-newton-says-criticized-incomparable

Joel
01-28-2016, 12:22 PM
Why do you think we're scared of the things comparable to you we've seen, Cam? Are you worried you're like some of scary things we've seen, or that the things like you we've seen are scary? It's OK, Cam: None of the things like you I've seen are scary. For example, Namath and McMahon strutting around like Gods gift to football before they'd even PLAYED the SB wasn't scary.

It is, however, very ANNOYING that criticizing you for the same reason they were criticized is "because [you're] African-American." BECAUSE that's crap.

Denver Native (Carol)
01-28-2016, 12:34 PM
from an article after the Broncos beat Carolina in 2012


Peyton Manning made sure Fox's return to Carolina was successful, throwing for 301 yards and a touchdown, and the defense turned in a dominating performance to lead the Broncos to a 36-14 rout.

AND


Manning had plenty of help from his teammates.

Linebacker Miller harassed Cam Newton all day and Trindon Holliday returned a punt 76 yards for a touchdown as the Broncos (6-3) won for the fifth time in six weeks. The Broncos sacked Newton seven times, including once for a safety, and Miller pressured him into an interception Tony Carter returned 40 yards for a score.

full article - http://espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=321111029

Joel
01-28-2016, 12:51 PM
from an article after the Broncos beat Carolina in 2012

AND

full article - http://espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=321111029
Less we discuss that the next 10 days, the better. They're clearly a VASTLY better team (particularly among Cams protectors) and reminding them and Cam we got a safety AND half a dozen more sacks is just classic bulletin board material: "They think we were just a speed bump on the way to their LAST SB?! We'll show them!" I still prefer the "keep telling them how awesome they are and how hopelessly outclassed we are" approach that worked great in '97.

tomjonesrocks
01-28-2016, 01:05 PM
'One-sided' action on Panthers helps move Super Bowl 50 line

"Over 80 percent of the early money and tickets are on the Panthers -4.5, and we are still writing tickets at that ratio," John Avello, the race and sports operations director at Wynn and Encore, said in an email. "I could see us going higher (possibly to 5.5, but even to 6)."

On Wednesday morning, the consensus line shifted to Carolina -5, as the vast majority of public money has been backing the Panthers, including several five-figure wagers at the Westgate. By Wednesday evening, the consensus line at Vegas sportsbooks was Carolina -5.5, with the lowest lines at the Wynn (-5) and Treasure Island (-4.5)."

http://espn.go.com/chalk/story/_/id/14665376/one-sided-action-carolina-panthers-helps-move-super-bowl-50-line-las-vegas

EastCoastBronco
01-28-2016, 01:36 PM
As Keith Bishop so elegantly put it at the start of "The Drive"...

"We've got em right where we want them..."

8366

Denver Native (Carol)
01-28-2016, 01:36 PM
Less we discuss that the next 10 days, the better. They're clearly a VASTLY better team (particularly among Cams protectors) and reminding them and Cam we got a safety AND half a dozen more sacks is just classic bulletin board material: "They think we were just a speed bump on the way to their LAST SB?! We'll show them!" I still prefer the "keep telling them how awesome they are and how hopelessly outclassed we are" approach that worked great in '97.

First of all - I DOUBT any Panther players are reading anything on Broncos Forums. Second, I know they are a much better offensive team, but IMO, the Broncos are a better defensive team now than they were in 2012.

VonDoom
01-28-2016, 02:11 PM
Nicki Jhabvala ‏@NickiJhabvala 7m7 minutes ago

Blasting "California Love" at Broncos practice. Of course.

Cameron Wolfe ‏@CameronWolfe 5m5 minutes ago

TJ Ward is back at the practice, not too active but still a good sign. #Broncos

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 3m3 minutes ago

Everyone is present at @Broncos practice except Darian Stewart (MCL sprain).

Denver Native (Carol)
01-28-2016, 02:40 PM
Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis 35m

Darian Stewart not practicing- nor observing - TJ Ward observing not practicing #9news #9sports

VonDoom
01-28-2016, 02:54 PM
Apparently, there is no question about whether Panthers linebacker Thomas Davis will play, such that there was.

Via Bill Voth of Black and Blue Review, Davis told reporters today that he was recovering nicely after surgery to put a plate and “11 or 12 screws” in his broken right arm.

“I fully expect to play,” Davis said.

That’s no surprise considering what the 32-year-old linebacker has gone through already, having rehabbed from three torn ACLs to play at his highest level yet. Davis earned a Pro Bowl invite this year, the first of his career.

But now that he’s this close to achieving an even greater goal, he’s not going to let something as simple as a broken arm hold him back.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/01/28/thomas-davis-i-fully-expect-to-play-after-broken-arm/

Denver Native (Carol)
01-28-2016, 03:25 PM
Looks like press conferences will start shortly. I have on ESPN and they said they would carry Peyton's press conference.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/superbowl/index.html

They just said on ESPN that Kubes will also be speaking. You can see them on above link

VonDoom
01-28-2016, 03:51 PM
Nicki Jhabvala ‏@NickiJhabvala 2m2 minutes ago

Darian Stewart and TJ Ward did not practice.

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 2m2 minutes ago

#Broncos Darian Stewart didn't practice. Vasquez and Mathis limited

Nicki Jhabvala ‏@NickiJhabvala 1m1 minute ago

Kubiak said he's "encouraged" Ward and Stewart will be available for Super Bowl 50.

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 26s27 seconds ago

#broncos Kubiak said Ward and stewart expected to practice next wk. Game plan went in today. Siemian and Osweiler simulated Cam in practice

Denver Broncos ‏@Broncos 18s19 seconds ago

Kubiak on Super Bowl prep: "It's nice to feed off players who have been there. ... But I think every time is different." #SB50

Nicki Jhabvala ‏@NickiJhabvala 2m2 minutes ago

Kubiak said Peyton hasn't said anything to him about whether this is his "last rodeo."

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 24s24 seconds ago

#broncos Kubiak said he trusts Ware and Manning. He talked to them after practice today about guiding the team through this time

VonDoom
01-28-2016, 03:59 PM
Nicki Jhabvala ‏@NickiJhabvala 3m3 minutes ago

Peyton on NFL investigation of HGH allegations: "I do welcome it. ... It's been garbage from the 1st day it came out. Still garbage today."

Denver Broncos ‏@Broncos 28s28 seconds ago

#Manning on the offense: "There's no question we can improve, and we want to improve." #SB50

Lindsay Jones ‏@bylindsayhjones 34s35 seconds ago

Peyton Manning has no interest in rehashing the "last rodeo" comments to Belichick. "That hasn't been confirmed," he snarked.

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 18s19 seconds ago

#broncos manning on his postgame conversation with #Patriots Belichick "we are on to Carolina"

Denver Native (Carol)
01-28-2016, 04:52 PM
Panthers fullback Mike Tolbert doesn't care if you don't like Carolina's touchdown celebrations, and he isn't about to bow down to Broncos passer Peyton Manning, either.

"We don't really care if this is his last game," Tolbert said of Manning's appearance in Super Bowl 50, per The Charlotte Observer. "He's played what -- 18, 19 years? He's had enough, you know what I'm saying? It's our turn."

Panthers safety Tre Boston agrees, saying he wouldn't feel the least bit bad about picking off Manning two Sundays from now.

"So if a man has the last piece of pizza in the world, are you going to take that last piece?" Boston asked. "One of y'all got to live! One of us has to win, and I'm not trying to lose. It's you and that one man. You gonna live or not? I'm trying to win. I don't care who you are."

rest - plus video
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000629333/article/tolbert-we-dont-care-if-this-is-mannings-last-game

BroncoBuckeye73
01-28-2016, 04:58 PM
Ive been reading all the stuff Carolina is saying about the game and I laugh. I hope they bring that cocky attitude with them and when they try their bully bs we punch them right in the mouth.

BroncoBuckeye73
01-28-2016, 05:06 PM
And I still dont see the aura of invincibility some people see in the Panthers. Good runnning game nothing special in recievers or passing game and their D looks like the 06 bears playing lots of zone. The got to good dts a good linebacker. Would say 2 good backers but one broke his arm and will be in a cast. Their secondary has 1 decent corner who gets way too much credit his play slipped in the second half of the season.

BroncoJoe
01-28-2016, 05:35 PM
I think Carolina is a very good team, but young and inexperienced. Not unlike a bully, punch them in the mouth and they'll wither away.

Toughness and intimidation is going to win this game. More than game planning. They'll fold like a beach chair if we can get into their heads. Guaranteed.

BroncoWave
01-28-2016, 05:37 PM
This whole embedding tweets thing is fun!

https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/status/692832032330657792

Denver Native (Carol)
01-28-2016, 05:55 PM
ERIE, Colo. - One man in Erie, Colorado, had his world rocked when he woke up last Friday morning to phone calls from strangers asking about his house being for sale.

“I just thought there was a paper with a typo. Then I read the ad and it all came together,” Brian Lusk, of Erie, Colorado, told ABC News of the epic prank that’s gone viral.

His buddy, Brian Rauk, is a diehard Steelers fan. Lusk, however, is a huge Broncos fan. When the Broncos made it to the Super Bowl, a slightly bitter Rauk decided to have a little fun with Lusk by putting a fake advertisement in three local Denver-area newspapers saying his house was for sale. The asking price? Tickets to the Super Bowl.

“Getting divorced; Leaving her with nothing,” the ad read. “Will sell home for two tickets to the Super Bowl with airfare and lodging. Must act fast! Serious inquiries only!”

rest - http://www.thedenverchannel.com/sports/broncos/denver-broncos-fan-vows-revenge-after-house-listed-for-sale-in-super-bowl-prank

Denver Native (Carol)
01-28-2016, 06:27 PM
Thursday practice: Super Bowl preparation begins

http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/photo-gallery/Thursday-practice-Super-Bowl-preparation-begins/39009682-c118-4416-a0ff-50aa20465d79

VonDoom
01-28-2016, 06:43 PM
This whole embedding tweets thing is fun!

Wait, we can do that now? Interesting

Denver Native (Carol)
01-28-2016, 07:51 PM
ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- Even though much is being made of the trend of mobile quarterbacks in the last four Super Bowls -- from Colin Kaepernick to Russell Wilson and now Cam Newton -- they aren't a particularly new breed. Those quarterbacks may not be the same style of dual-threat quarterbacks as Bob Griese, Roger Staubach and Fran Tarkenton, but they do share some similar stylistic DNA.

And to say that the age of the pocket passer is dead seems to be jumping the gun a bit. This is still a league where Peyton Manning is in the Super Bowl, where Tom Brady continues to flourish, where Joe Flacco and Drew Brees and Eli Manning have Super Bowl rings for their work in recent years.

"Be careful with these labels now," Manning said. "I think that is 100 percent for you guys [the media] to decide. That is not in my department."

But pocket passers remain in place throughout the league -- and as quarterbacks get older and lose their mobility, they can transition into passers who stay primarily in the pocket, like Pittsburgh's Ben Roethlisberger.

rest - plus Peyton video
http://www.denverbroncos.com/news-and-blogs/article-primesport/Is-the-pocket-passer-dying-No-way-says-Peyton-Manning/5957ebb3-ce9c-4a12-98f2-cfb7f18329ec

Denver Native (Carol)
01-28-2016, 07:54 PM
Go behind the scenes for CBS' television broadcast with the Broncos getting their shots in the can.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/photo-gallery/Behind-the-Scenes-Super-Bowl-broadcast-production/6786b2b6-4576-4886-8544-cfb6a1b50e6b

NightTerror218
01-28-2016, 07:59 PM
I think Carolina is a very good team, but young and inexperienced. Not unlike a bully, punch them in the mouth and they'll wither away.

Toughness and intimidation is going to win this game. More than game planning. They'll fold like a beach chair if we can get into their heads. Guaranteed.

First Denver play of game a deep pass to sanders will cut them down to size.

Denver Native (Carol)
01-28-2016, 08:27 PM
Week of prep is 'crucial' before leaving town

Players talk about the importance of this week of prep before the team leaves for Santa Clara.
http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Week-of-prep-is-crucial-before-leaving-town/b41c53cb-205f-471a-9011-bef9c518efc2

Manning on offense: 'We can improve'

Peyton Manning talks about what it means to him to play in Super Bowl 50 and how the Broncos offense can improve.
http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Manning-on-offense-We-can-improve/2681dbc1-be22-4550-80e5-674b7f11b4db

Kubiak: Practicing as if game was this Sunday

Head Coach Gary Kubiak talks about how the team is approaching its preparations this week for Super Bowl 50.
http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Kubiak_Practicing_as_if_game_was_this_Sunday/be34806a-66a2-4cd1-bffa-d87c04d6191d

Denver Native (Carol)
01-28-2016, 09:30 PM
Longtime Broncos owner Pat Bowlen wasn’t on the podium last Sunday when the confetti rained down at Sports Authority Field and the team was presented with the Lamar Hunt trophy. In his place, his wife Annabel and his children stood alongside coach Gary Kubiak and Broncos players to accept the trophy from Jim Nantz and thank the more than 77,000 fans in attendance.

Physically, Pat Bowlen, who purchased the team in 1984 but stepped down a year-and-a-half ago because of Alzheimer’s, wasn’t there. But in every other sense he was and still is.

The Bowlen-led Broncos paid for all employees — full-timers, part-timers and interns — to travel to Super Bowl 50, just as they did in 2014, when the team advanced to Super Bowl XLVIII.

“It’s a huge expense, but it buys you a lot of goodwill and equity with people and makes people feel good about working for Mr. Bowlen,” Broncos president and CEO Joe Ellis said. “So many staff members are in a working capacity when they go to the Super Bowl, but at least their families get to come out and enjoy it, because it is a special moment and it is a difficult game to get to from a team standpoint.”

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2016/01/28/broncos-pay-for-all-employees-to-travel-to-super-bowl-50/37638/

Denver Native (Carol)
01-28-2016, 10:35 PM
Urlacher doesn't like the Carolina Panthers QB's over-the-top showboating

Carolina Panthers quarterback Cam Newton is always a topic of conversation among NFL fans these days, but that was even more true on Wednesday.

At his mid-week press conference, Newton sparked another round of conversation by saying race affects how he's perceived. "I'm an African-American QB that scares people because my skill set isn't like anybody else," Newton said.

While that is part of it, there's also the fact that Newton's brash persona rubs some people the wrong way. Charles Barkley, a brash and successful former athlete, said he totally understands why people would dislike Newton by the way he acts on the field.

Now add former Chicago Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher to that mix.

rest - http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/super-bowl-50-carolina-panthers-cam-newton-brian-urlacher-hates-celebrations-012816

GEM
01-28-2016, 11:20 PM
Broncos rally, Sunday 1-2:30. Civic Center Park. :rockon:

Denver Native (Carol)
01-29-2016, 10:04 AM
Unclear how this happened or why, but it did. The grounds crew at Levi’s Stadium initially painted the Broncos’ logo on the wrong end zone, giving them the visitor’s side when they’re the home team this year.

Photos taken of the field in progress show a faint Broncos logo in the end zone that has since been painted in black in blue for the Panthers.

rest plus pictures - http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2016/01/28/super-bowl-grounds-crew-accidentally-paints-two-broncos-end-zones/37661/

Denver Native (Carol)
01-29-2016, 10:07 AM
Troy Renck Retweeted
Patrick Smyth ‏@psmyth12 56m

Coach Kubiak to @DenverSports760: "I think our players have done a great job all yr focusing on the task at hand and staying in the moment."

GEM
01-29-2016, 10:14 AM
rest plus pictures - http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2016/01/28/super-bowl-grounds-crew-accidentally-paints-two-broncos-end-zones/37661/

Saw that this morning. :D

TXBRONC
01-29-2016, 10:14 AM
This whole embedding tweets thing is fun!

https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/status/692832032330657792

Could someone explain how a betting line works? I never bet on anything so don't know.

BroncoJoe
01-29-2016, 10:37 AM
Could someone explain how a betting line works? I never bet on anything so don't know.

The sportsbooks’ goal is not to be right. Many casual bettors assume that sportsbooks are trying to predict the outcome of the game with their lines. That’s far from the truth, though often times they turn out to be quite accurate. The actual goal of the bookmakers is to set a line that lets them collect balanced action on both teams. Because of the juice sportsbooks are guaranteed to make a profit if they have the same amount of money bet on both teams. It’s important to note here that we are not talking about having the same number of bettors on both sides, but rather the same amount of money.

http://www.madduxsports.com/library/sportsbook/understanding-misunderstood-betting-lines.html

tomjonesrocks
01-29-2016, 10:40 AM
The sportsbooks’ goal is not to be right. Many casual bettors assume that sportsbooks are trying to predict the outcome of the game with their lines. That’s far from the truth, though often times they turn out to be quite accurate. The actual goal of the bookmakers is to set a line that lets them collect balanced action on both teams. Because of the juice sportsbooks are guaranteed to make a profit if they have the same amount of money bet on both teams. It’s important to note here that we are not talking about having the same number of bettors on both sides, but rather the same amount of money. http://www.madduxsports.com/library/sportsbook/understanding-misunderstood-betting-lines.html

But the books don't always succeed. I read 70%+ of the money was on the Pats last week - they cleaned up.

Denver Native (Carol)
01-29-2016, 11:03 AM
DENVER – Not just the Broncos players and coaching staff are getting ready for Super Bowl 50, the Broncos’ iconic mascot is getting prepared as well.

Thunder Two, typically seen running the field at games, is getting ready to roll to San Francisco. If the Broncos win the Super Bowl, Thunder Three will be used in the victory parade in Denver. Thunder Two and owner Sharon Magness Blake will load up next week and make the two-day road trip to San Francisco, where there will spend several days making public appearances and then get on the field for Super Bowl 50.

“So three of us will drive out there and two will fly and it takes a lot of equipment. It’s like having a child with a play pen and everything you need, everything for him, so we will have our big rig and take everything out Monday morning,” said Magness.

Thunder should start making public appearances around the San Francisco area by Wednesday or Thursday next week.

video on link
http://www.9news.com/story/sports/nfl/denver-broncos/2016/01/28/thunder-broncos-mascot-headed-san-francisco/79488170/

NightTerror218
01-29-2016, 11:08 AM
But the books don't always succeed. I read 70%+ of the money was on the Pats last week - they cleaned up.

But any people still because the line was set at 3 points and we won by 2.

Ravage!!!
01-29-2016, 11:15 AM
But any people still because the line was set at 3 points and we won by 2.

what does this say?

underrated29
01-29-2016, 11:24 AM
what does this say?

Im good at translating drunk and autocorrect....


"But many people still won because the line was set at 3 points and the broncos only won by 2

Denver Native (Carol)
01-29-2016, 11:41 AM
some things from article:


The chart below, researched by Jacob Nitzberg of ESPN Stats & Information, reveals a 15-season trend. Over that period, penalty calls -- including those that were declined or offset -- have dropped 18.4 percent in the first three rounds of the playoffs and 9.8 percent in the Super Bowl compared to regular-season averages.


Former NFL official and supervisor Jim Daopoulos, for one, openly acknowledged his playoff mindset: "Let them play football."

Daopoulos, who officiated Super Bowl XXXIII and is now an ESPN analyst, added: "Just like the players and coaches, you're on the biggest stage you've ever been on. It's a time that requires more concentration than you've ever had before because of the implications. By the time you get to the Super Bowl, you go in with the mindset that you want to make sure it's a foul.

"You want to make the big calls and not 'Mickey Mouse' these guys. Let them play football."

full article - interesting
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/197248/do-refs-really-swallow-their-whistles-in-the-super-bowl

TXBRONC
01-29-2016, 12:28 PM
The sportsbooks’ goal is not to be right. Many casual bettors assume that sportsbooks are trying to predict the outcome of the game with their lines. That’s far from the truth, though often times they turn out to be quite accurate. The actual goal of the bookmakers is to set a line that lets them collect balanced action on both teams. Because of the juice sportsbooks are guaranteed to make a profit if they have the same amount of money bet on both teams. It’s important to note here that we are not talking about having the same number of bettors on both sides, but rather the same amount of money.

http://www.madduxsports.com/library/sportsbook/understanding-misunderstood-betting-lines.html

Thanks that helps quite but. What exactly do numbers mean? Does the -5.5 mean that if Carolina wins it will be less than 5.5 points? Also the over/under is Carolina is expect to score around 45 points?

BroncoWave
01-29-2016, 12:34 PM
Thanks that helps quite but. What exactly do numbers mean? Does the -5.5 mean that if Carolina wins it will be less than 5.5 points? Also the over/under is Carolina is expect to score around 45 points?

So basically if Carolina wins by less than 5.5, anyone who bet on Denver against the spread wins their bet. The over/under is for combined points.

Joel
01-29-2016, 01:29 PM
The sportsbooks’ goal is not to be right. Many casual bettors assume that sportsbooks are trying to predict the outcome of the game with their lines. That’s far from the truth, though often times they turn out to be quite accurate. The actual goal of the bookmakers is to set a line that lets them collect balanced action on both teams. Because of the juice sportsbooks are guaranteed to make a profit if they have the same amount of money bet on both teams. It’s important to note here that we are not talking about having the same number of bettors on both sides, but rather the same amount of money.

http://www.madduxsports.com/library/sportsbook/understanding-misunderstood-betting-lines.html
Good point that they're trying to balance the book in dollars, not gamblers. For what it's worth (I've never tested it) I've read bettors can make a lot of cash just taking the dog every time, because people tend to overestimate favorites (everyone loves a winner.) That often pushes the line too far.

However one plays it, the key thing to remember when helping a bookmaker make his book is that just winning half the time is NOT breaking even: A bettor must win enough to cover losses AND the vig. If the vig's 10%, that works out to ~52½%, not 50%: Win 50% and you still lost MONEY.

If that 2½% difference seems too small to mention, just remember: It's built Vegas a billion-dollar empire.

VonDoom
01-29-2016, 01:38 PM
Im good at translating drunk and autocorrect....


"But many people still won because the line was set at 3 points and the broncos only won by 2

Which is irrelevant, because it was the Patriots favored by three, not the Broncos. If the Pats lost OR won by less than three, anyone who bet on the Broncos won. An underdog who wins outright automatically "covers" the spread.

Joel
01-29-2016, 01:51 PM
Which is irrelevant, because it was the Patriots favored by three, not the Broncos. If the Pats lost OR won by less than three, anyone who bet on the Broncos won. An underdog who wins outright automatically "covers" the spread.
Which is also irrelevant to Vegas, because when the home team's a 3½ pt dog that means there's a lot of action on the visitor. Vegas let the losers pay the winners and cleaned up on the vig, because the public overestimated the "better" team. As usual. ESPN had a piece on this the other day: They went back about 15 years (IIRC) and said Vegas only lost money on 4 SBs.

underrated29
01-29-2016, 02:52 PM
Hey Im just the translator, I dont know about the betting thing.

LawDog
01-29-2016, 03:13 PM
Which is also irrelevant to Vegas, because when the home team's a 3½ pt dog that means there's a lot of action on the visitor. Vegas let the losers pay the winners and cleaned up on the vig, because the public overestimated the "better" team. As usual. ESPN had a piece on this the other day: They went back about 15 years (IIRC) and said Vegas only lost money on 4 SBs.

Nobody is really explaining how Vegas sports betting works. Terms like "juice" and "vig" are used with no explanation. The discussion has only been about the spread itself which actually has very little to do with the actual bets themselves. From the discussion it looks like two bettors: one bets 100 on team A, and the other bets 100 on team B. The spread is 3, or more accurately team B -3. If team B wins the game by a score of 4 or more points then all those who placed bets on B win their bets. If team B wins by exactly 3 points then it is usually a push and bettors just get their original bet back with no winnings - which is why you see lines of 1/2 point, although sportsbooks have different rules on pushes. If team B loses, or wins by 2 points or less, then those who placed bets on team A wins their bets. But, that is not to say that all those who win get even money for their bet - i.e. a 100 bet would return 200 (the original bet plus an equal 100 of winnings). The odds on the bets can very greatly as well - i.e. a winning bet of 100 may return more or less than that. Sometimes you have to lay 100 to win 50 (the total return would be 150) or you can lay 100 to win 500 (total return of 600). These second scenarios is where the books really make their money. Not trying to explain it, just pointing out that it is really more complicated than a friendly wager with your neighbor - which may or may not be lawful (wink, wink).

VonDoom
01-29-2016, 04:00 PM
Nicki Jhabvala ‏@NickiJhabvala 2h2 hours ago

Broncos safeties TJ Ward and Darian Stewart are not practicing

Cameron Wolfe ‏@CameronWolfe 2h2 hours ago

Well Ward is going through some drills, but no helmet so he'll likely be listed as DNP.

Cameron Wolfe ‏@CameronWolfe 2h2 hours ago

Stewart is going through the motions on plays too. At this point, I'd be surprised if they didn't play barring setbacks.

VonDoom
01-29-2016, 04:03 PM
Cameron Wolfe ‏@CameronWolfe 28m28 minutes ago

TJ Ward, Darian Stewart, Louis Vasquez didn't practice. If they played Sunday, they all would be listed as questionable.

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 28m28 minutes ago

Kubiak: Vasquez has a sore knee, was held out because the practice got moved inside, he added.

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 27m27 minutes ago

Kubiak: "I see [Manning] really enjoying the moment."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 25m25 minutes ago

Kubiak: It's important to start fast against the Panthers. "That is something that is a big factor ... played very well early in games."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 25m25 minutes ago

Kubiak will take players on injured reserve with the team on Sunday, and not wait until Thursday before SB, as they did 2 years ago.

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 23m23 minutes ago

Kubiak: Osweiler has "been a great pro" since going back to the 2nd team. "It tells you what kind of future he has ... great team player."

Denver Broncos ‏@Broncos 19m19 minutes ago

Kubiak: "I've got a smile on my face today because my team practiced well today. ... They're getting ready to play." #SB50

Denver Broncos ‏@Broncos 22m22 minutes ago

"It's been tremendous."

- Kubiak on DC Wade Phillips' quick defensive turnaround with #Broncos

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 20m20 minutes ago

#Broncos Kubiak admits that has taken chunk of preparation for Super Bowl from experience with Shanahan w #Broncos and #49ers

VonDoom
01-29-2016, 04:04 PM
Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 18m18 minutes ago

Dennison admits that "No, I'm not" happy with where the offense is. "There's always room for improvement."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 18m18 minutes ago

Dennison: Last week "we had too many opportunities that we need to take advantage of."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 17m17 minutes ago

Dennison: Panthers D is "top 10 in almost anything they do ... they do everything very well."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 15m15 minutes ago

Dennison: "I don't think we try to be conservative ... we try to make shots," but that offense reacts to situation & opponent.

VonDoom
01-29-2016, 04:05 PM
Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 13m13 minutes ago

DeCamillis: Panthers returner Ted Ginn Jr. "is scary ... he's going to be a huge focus for us." Praises their team speed.

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 7m7 minutes ago

#Broncos Joe DeCamillis on Shiloh Keo onside kick recovery. "Not enough is talked about on that play.. He's a tough guy."

Cameron Wolfe ‏@CameronWolfe 8m8 minutes ago

ST coach Joe DeCamillis said they turned in the personal foul call on Kayvon Webster for not getting back in bounds to NFL to be reviewed.

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 7m7 minutes ago

DeCamillis says that the key to having the extra week is knowing exactly what your opponent can do ... "prepare like we never have before."

Joel
01-29-2016, 04:38 PM
Nobody is really explaining how Vegas sports betting works. Terms like "juice" and "vig" are used with no explanation. The discussion has only been about the spread itself which actually has very little to do with the actual bets themselves. From the discussion it looks like two bettors: one bets 100 on team A, and the other bets 100 on team B. The spread is 3, or more accurately team B -3. If team B wins the game by a score of 4 or more points then all those who placed bets on B win their bets. If team B wins by exactly 3 points then it is usually a push and bettors just get their original bet back with no winnings - which is why you see lines of 1/2 point, although sportsbooks have different rules on pushes. If team B loses, or wins by 2 points or less, then those who placed bets on team A wins their bets. But, that is not to say that all those who win get even money for their bet - i.e. a 100 bet would return 200 (the original bet plus an equal 100 of winnings). The odds on the bets can very greatly as well - i.e. a winning bet of 100 may return more or less than that. Sometimes you have to lay 100 to win 50 (the total return would be 150) or you can lay 100 to win 500 (total return of 600). These second scenarios is where the books really make their money. Not trying to explain it, just pointing out that it is really more complicated than a friendly wager with your neighbor - which may or may not be lawful (wink, wink).
Yeah, I (and evidently everyone) presumed everyone knows what the "vigorish" is: Essentially a finders fee opposing bettors pay to be connected with each other. Odds and spreads are two different ways of facilitating that, so it's usually one or the other and bookie's (directly) make nothing on either. 2:1 odds is just a way to avoid having twice as much money on one side, so winners pay losers and bookies pay no one.

ALL (bettors) pays the vig though, and winners may or may not get it back, but losers NEVER do: That money goes into the bookies pocket, win or lose (which is why bookies hate a push more than anyone else does: It's the ONLY way they can lose money if they did their math right.) Also (though the seasons final game is a bit late for this warning:) Avoid parlays for the same reason as lotteries.

The real moral is that IF someone wants to bet, their neighbor's EXACTLY whom they SHOULD bet; s/he doesn't charge a vig.

Now, if ya'll will excuse me, I have to split before Sawed Off Mikey gets here to chat with me about querring the deal. ;)

VonDoom
01-29-2016, 04:42 PM
Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 5m5 minutes ago

Miller: Facing Cam Newton "is not a big deal," but he says he enjoys going against fellow members of the 2011 draft class.

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 4m4 minutes ago

Von Miller: "I like it a whole lot better" with all the injured players coming with the rest of the team Sun., rather than waiting 'til Thu.

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 4m4 minutes ago

Von Miller: "We're here. We're in the moment now."

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis 3m3 minutes ago

Von Miller: "We're trying to get it for DeMarcus and Peyton.''

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 2m2 minutes ago

Von Miller: "I grew up trying to be like" DeMarcus Ware ... "having him here with me has really helped me."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 3m3 minutes ago

Von Miller says he has an autographed Luke Kuechly @Panthers helmet at his house, on his mantle.

Nicki Jhabvala ‏@NickiJhabvala 3m3 minutes ago

Von Miller: "Peyton is obviously my favorite quarterback. But other than that it's Cam. ... I'm a big fan."

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis 2m2 minutes ago

Von Miller: "If Cam Newton played defense, he could rush the passer and drop back and play safety.''

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 6m6 minutes ago

DeMarcus Ware; "It hasn't set in yet ... I feel like I'm playing a normal game, to be honest with you."

Joel
01-29-2016, 04:47 PM
Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 25m25 minutes ago

Kubiak will take players on injured reserve with the team on Sunday, and not wait until Thursday before SB, as they did 2 years ago.
Good. Foxco practically ran a clinic on how to NOT prepare for a SB; it's reassuring to have a coaching staff that actually has a clue.


Cameron Wolfe ‏@CameronWolfe 8m8 minutes ago

ST coach Joe DeCamillis said they turned in the personal foul call on Kayvon Webster for not getting back in bounds to NFL to be reviewed.
Also good, that was a BS call that could've cost us the AFC Championship. Webster DID return to the field, just not quickly enough: Because he was pushed out while running down and LOOKING down the sideline, so didn't immediately notice he was out; he came back in as soon as he realized he was out, well before reaching the returner (and, IIRC, the ball bounced out anyway.)

Regardless, there's no WAY that should be a 15 yd PF; personal fouls are supposed to be for intentional stuff that creates injury risks, not just brief and quickly corrected unawareness of whether ones feet are in our out of bounds. THAT PF turned average field position into midfield, and if NE* scores a TD from there, they probably win the game in regulation.

VonDoom
01-29-2016, 04:53 PM
Cameron Wolfe ‏@CameronWolfe 2m2 minutes ago

Wade Phillips: "They asked me if I had seen a QB like Cam Newton. There isn't one like him. I haven't seen one like him. No one has."

Nicki Jhabvala ‏@NickiJhabvala 2m2 minutes ago

Wade Phillips: "You go from Roethlisberger to Tom Brady, thinking there won't be anything tougher. And now you got Cam Newton."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 2m2 minutes ago

Wade Phillips: Cam Newton "is so versatile, that he gives you so many problems." Can run, but also a "top-notch drop-back QB."

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 2m2 minutes ago

#Broncos Wade Phillips "We are in it to win it."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 31s32 seconds ago

Wade Phillips: "You adapt the scheme to what your players can do." Said he stunted Elvin Bethea in the 1970s to take advantage of quickness.

TXBRONC
01-29-2016, 05:01 PM
[/COLOR]Good. Foxco practically ran a clinic on how to NOT prepare for a SB; it's reassuring to have a coaching staff that actually has a clue.


Also good, that was a BS call that could've cost us the AFC Championship. Webster DID return to the field, just not quickly enough: Because he was pushed out while running down and LOOKING down the sideline, so didn't immediately notice he was out; he came back in as soon as he realized he was out, well before reaching the returner (and, IIRC, the ball bounced out anyway.)

Regardless, there's no WAY that should be a 15 yd PF; personal fouls are supposed to be for intentional stuff that creates injury risks, not just brief and quickly corrected unawareness of whether ones feet are in our out of bounds. THAT PF turned average field position into midfield, and if NE* scores a TD from there, they probably win the game in regulation.

Considering he's been an assistant coach on the staffs of two Super Bowl winning teams he very experienced dealing with a moment this big.

Joel
01-29-2016, 05:07 PM
Considering he's been an assistant coach on the staffs of two Super Bowl winning teams he very experienced dealing with a moment this big.
No argument there; it's just sad that a guy who'd already been HEAD coach of a SB team had NO IDEA how to prepare when Manning carried him to a second.

Denver Native (Carol)
01-29-2016, 05:22 PM
from article:


Miles admittedly was disappointed the jerseys are black. The Panthers have a career record of 5-0 in the playoffs at home in white and 0-2 in the black.

As the designated home team, the AFC champion Denver Broncos had the option. They chose white.

"They wore their colors all in their home playoff games," Miles said of Denver. "Our white thing is a home superstition. It’s kind of weird they're preventing us from wearing white."

It was weird until Miles was reminded the Broncos are 0-4 in Super Bowls wearing orange jerseys. He still was disappointed.

"The last two [playoff games] in black we got our butts kicked," he quipped.

full article - http://espn.go.com/blog/carolina-panthers/post/_/id/19191/panthers-pack-six-jerseys-for-cam-newton-to-take-to-super-bowl

Denver Native (Carol)
01-29-2016, 07:05 PM
Panthers Pride Rally

http://www.panthers.com/media-vault/videos/Panthers-Pride-Rally/97431bd3-253c-493d-80d9-e161d6c86c0e

Denver Native (Carol)
01-29-2016, 08:12 PM
ENGLEWOOD, Colo. — In reaching the Super Bowl, the Broncos have gone through the wringer in terms of defeating some of the most challenging quarterbacks the NFL has to offer.

The Broncos began the playoffs with Pittsburgh's Ben Roethlisberger, who boasted the league's top mark in passing yards per game. A week after the Broncos took down Pittsburgh, Denver hosted the Patriots and Tom Brady, who threw 36 touchdowns—a league-leading figure—against just seven interceptions.

And now they have the delight of facing the most dangerous quarterback in the NFL, who doesn't just have the ability to torch defenses with his arm. Newton, who is expected to receive NFL MVP honors in a week, averaged 239.8 passing yards per game with 35 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. He added 636 rushing yards and 10 touchdowns on the ground.

rest - interesting, plus Wade video
http://www.denverbroncos.com/news-and-blogs/article-primesport/How-the-Broncos-are-preparing-for-Cam-Newton-a-quarterback-like-no-one-else/9dcf25d1-9bb7-41b8-9f58-e3f7a9ffcbfa

Denver Native (Carol)
01-29-2016, 10:33 PM
Broncos 'D' finds its personality under Phillips

Denver Broncos head coach Gary Kubiak and defensive back Aqib Talib explain why defensive coordinator Wade Phillips has found so much success with this group of players.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Broncos_D_finds_its_personality_under_Phillips/72959344-4653-4295-81e4-c925324d8f65

Follow the Broncos to Super Bowl 50

Go behind-the-scenes in Santa Clara with exclusive coverage from the team hotel on Broncos TV Live from Super Bowl 50 presented by PrimeSport, starting next Monday-Friday at 3:30 MT.
http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Follow-the-Broncos-to-Super-Bowl-50/4d3ca43e-85b2-4c97-8cea-6243cd709545

Phillips hasn't seen QB like Cam Newton

Defensive Coordinator talks about the challenges of facing Panthers QB Cam Newton.
http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Phillips-hasnt-seen-QB-like-Cam-Newton/14b1c961-6260-4ad0-8692-0e8883371c91

Ware motivated by teammates

DeMarcus Ware talks about playing well at the end of the season and being challenge by teammates like Von Miller.
http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Ware_motivated_by_teammates/f8dd4053-4a85-4cbf-93e1-82a6a727c269

Ware motivated by teammates

DeMarcus Ware talks about playing well at the end of the season and being challenge by teammates like Von Miller.
http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Ware_motivated_by_teammates/f8dd4053-4a85-4cbf-93e1-82a6a727c269

Miller enjoys facing 2011 draft class

Von Miller talks about facing Cam Newton after they were selected first and second in the 2011 draft.
http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Miller_enjoys_facing_2011_draft_class/a07d3774-8718-4278-894e-269ce7dc1e5c

DeCamillis: Colquitt's been 'locked in'

Special Teams Coordinator Joe DeCamillis talks about facing the Panthers and Punter Britton Colquitt's season.
http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/DeCamillis_Colquitts_been_locked_in/1442de8a-0d52-447a-bb5a-02b94e00d128

Joel
01-29-2016, 11:03 PM
One thing I absolutely LOVED about Wades game plan last week was the lack of blitzes. I Luv Ya Blue the whole Phillips family, but their preference for blitzes makes me nervous: I've seen too many great QBs burn too many great Ds deep because too many guys were wide open from the snap. I like Wades distinction between "dogs" (i.e. a 5-man blitz) and "blitzes," but anything more and I start to worry. Unless we just absolutely CAN'T get there with 4-5, I prefer situational and RARE blitzes; a coverage sack is still a sack.

Last week though we didn't even use many of Wades dogs, which is how Von Miller got the Int that gave us a big lead and left NE* playing catch up (i.e right into our Ds hands) the rest of the game. It helped that their line AND run game are nearly as bad as ours, and Carolina's far better at both, so we may have to blitz in the SB (as dangerous as that is vs. Cam.) But it was great to see how well our coverage and pass rush complemented each other last week, functioned as a unit, so Bradys WRs rarely had time to get open, he rarely had a hot read to avoid the rush, and we rarely allowed a catch even when he managed to launch a hurried pass.

Wade took the Texans D from next to LAST to next to BEST in a SINGLE year; it's been fun seeing how much more he can do WITH much more in Denver.

tomjonesrocks
01-30-2016, 12:45 AM
Some pretty cool "on to 50" wallpapers/backgrounds here:
http://www.denverbroncos.com/fans/wallpapers/

Von's now dancing on my desktop.

Denver Native (Carol)
01-30-2016, 02:51 PM
A couple of hours ago, I got in my car to go get groceries, and I looked at the mileage on my car - which I hardly ever do - and the mileage was 88888 - the first thing that came to me was - #18, #88, and #58.

Denver Native (Carol)
01-30-2016, 04:19 PM
http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/super-bowl-50-levi-stadium-forecast-dry-el-nino-enhanced-rain/55065837

Nomad
01-30-2016, 04:27 PM
For some reason, I'm losing the excitement and motivation for this game, perhaps it'll come back as it gets closer to next Sunday.

Denver Native (Carol)
01-30-2016, 04:28 PM
Troy Renck Retweeted
Nicki Jhabvala ‏@NickiJhabvala 1h

Peyton Manning had Jordan Taylor, his pregame receiver, fitted for a custom suit. Then he paid for it. Pretty cool.

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 2h

#Broncos Kubiak "we talk about Mr B a lot. Joe (Ellis) talked to team today". Practiced ended with applause for Ellis and Bowlen

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 2h

"We are practicing with noise..." Kubiak said. Peyton manning brought it up based on last Super Bowl

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis 3h

Getting a lil misty eyed (not) - final practice at Broncos headquarters this season #laterthanmost #9news #9sports

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis 3h

RG Louis Vasquez observing but not practicing #9news #9sports

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis 3h

Again TJ Ward and Darian Stewart observing but not practicing #nobigwhip #9news #9sports

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis 5h

Broncos bus out of headquarters at 12:45 pm Sunday. Arrive at DIA ar 1:15. Take off at 1:45. Arrive at San Jose at 4 MST. #9news #9sports

Magnificent Seven
01-30-2016, 07:57 PM
8392
Good News for Broncos Country.

California Untied In Orange!

There will be another SEA OF ORANGE at the Levi Stadium.

Thousands of Broncos fan are on their way to California. It is only 19 hours to drive from Denver, Colorado to Bay Area, California. The total of flight distance from San Francisco, CA to Denver, CO is 950 miles and it is only 2 hours to fly.

What’s more? Stanford is letting Broncos to use their stadium for football practice at the Stanford University. Stanford is John Elway’s college town. Bay Area is rooting for Denver Broncos!

There are A LOT A LOT A LOT of Broncos Fans in here! (San Francisco Bay Area)

Denver Native (Carol)
01-30-2016, 08:06 PM
SANTA CLARA, Calif. (CBS4)– The United in Orange banner was placed on Levi’s Stadium for Super Bowl 50 where the Denver Broncos will take on the Carolina Panthers.

The banner was placed outside the stadium to honor the Denver Broncos.

Of course there was a Panthers banner on the other side of the stadium.

picture on link showing banner
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2016/01/30/united-in-orange-banner-placed-outside-levis-stadium/

TXBRONC
01-30-2016, 08:55 PM
It would be nice to have a home game feel to this game. I'm not sure that will happen but I sure wouldn't mind if it did.

Denver Native (Carol)
01-30-2016, 09:05 PM
ENGLEWOOD, Colo. – Chris Harris, Von Miller and Derek Wolfe didn’t only miss out on playing in the Super Bowl two years ago because of injuries; they also missed out on the entire Super Bowl experience. No media day. No team picture.

Two years ago, the Broncos chose to leave all of the players on injured reserve behind in Denver. Those players, a list that included two other defensive starters as well as left tackle Ryan Clady, did not join the team until later in the week, when players’ families arrived.

It was an uncommon and very unpopular move, and one new Broncos head coach Gary Kubiak isn’t making this year. Injured Broncos players, including safeties David Bruton and Omar Bolden, and left tackles Clady and Ty Sambrailo, will be with the team when they leave Denver Sunday afternoon.

“We’re all in this together,” Kubiak said. “One thing I ask guys to do when they’re on IR is stay involved with the team—don’t just remove yourself. Guys have done that.”

rest - plus video
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2016/01/30/broncos-injured-super-bowl-50-panthers/79571210/?hootPostID=1868ad7cc38269cf0eca3eb6bc02aca1

Denver Native (Carol)
01-30-2016, 09:22 PM
ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- For the past two and a half months, the Broncos' player personnel department has operated without one of its key members.

Director of Pro Personnel Tom Heckert has been on medical leave throughout the second half of the season and the postseason because of an illness. His ongoing treatment will prevent him from traveling with the organization to the San Francisco Bay Area for Super Bowl 50.

Heckert's status was first reported by KUSA-Ch. 9 Saturday afternoon.

“I was recently diagnosed with a very treatable blood disorder,” Heckert said. “I'm feeling better every day as a result of the treatments and hope to get back to work in the near future.

“The Broncos’ organization -- in particular John Elway, Matt Russell and Joe Ellis -- have been extremely supportive and accommodating during the last few months. I sincerely appreciate everyone’s kind thoughts and will be rooting for the Broncos to bring home a Super Bowl win."

rest - http://www.denverbroncos.com/news-and-blogs/article-primesport/Tom-Heckert-not-traveling-to-Super-Bowl-50-because-of-illness/4dc6b05f-d661-49a9-8d7c-3580fff75658

VonDoom
01-30-2016, 10:22 PM
The game plan for the Super Bowl seems finished already, according to this:


The Broncos will head to Santa Clara, Calif. on Sunday, but the team did all of its game planning and installation during three practice sessions in Denver, head coach Gary Kubiak said Saturday.

“It's really hard when the game is two weeks away to ask your players, your organization to say, 'No, no, no, we're playing this week, we're going to focus this week.' That's hard on them, but coaches, administration, players, they've all done a really good job,” Kubiak said. “I really feel good getting on the plane tomorrow that they're close to being ready to go.”

Kubiak said that means three practice sessions held at Stanford University in Palo Alto should be shorter than normal and intended to sharpen and reinforce what the team worked on while they were still in Colorado.

“We'll continue our meetings and that stuff, and how we prepare to play, but I want them relaxed. They've done the work. I want them to enjoy themselves and get ready to go,” Kubiak said.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/broncos/2016/01/30/denver-broncos-super-bowl-santa-clara-preparation-done/79571214/

VonDoom
01-31-2016, 12:30 PM
https://twitter.com/sonofbum/status/693834061773611008

GEM
01-31-2016, 12:41 PM
The game plan for the Super Bowl seems finished already, according to this:



http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/broncos/2016/01/30/denver-broncos-super-bowl-santa-clara-preparation-done/79571214/

This makes me nervous.

Denver Native (Carol)
01-31-2016, 12:47 PM
I found the following 2015 NFL strength of schedule. Found it interesting in regards to the Broncos and Carolina. Does it mean anything now - maybe, maybe not

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25066031/2015-nfl-strength-of-schedule-steelers-at-no-1-falcons-at-no-32

VonDoom
01-31-2016, 01:36 PM
This makes me nervous.

I can understand, because just about everything about this game is making me nervous right now. But consider that this is different than how Fox approached the Super Bowl preparation, and anything that is the anti-Fox plan probably seems better given the result. I think they also said they had the Patriots game plan done early in the week last game as well (though obviously they didn't have the week off) and that worked out. I keep thinking about how confident they were in their plan for that game and how well they executed. If they have that same confidence at this point, I see no reason to panic. We have to trust that the coaching staff knows what they're doing.

spikerman
01-31-2016, 02:11 PM
I believe that's how the 49ers used to go about it back in the day with Bill Walsh. He would get all of the game planning, etc. out of the way the first week because he knew that the distractions during the second week would make it much more difficult on the team.

Nomad
01-31-2016, 02:20 PM
I can understand, because just about everything about this game is making me nervous right now. But consider that this is different than how Fox approached the Super Bowl preparation, and anything that is the anti-Fox plan probably seems better given the result. I think they also said they had the Patriots game plan done early in the week last game as well (though obviously they didn't have the week off) and that worked out. I keep thinking about how confident they were in their plan for that game and how well they executed. If they have that same confidence at this point, I see no reason to panic. We have to trust that the coaching staff knows what they're doing.

I believe both pass defenses are coming into this game very confident, and the run game will be the difference. Where's Howard Griffith when you need him. :lol:

VonDoom
01-31-2016, 02:38 PM
I believe that's how the 49ers used to go about it back in the day with Bill Walsh. He would get all of the game planning, etc. out of the way the first week because he knew that the distractions during the second week would make it much more difficult on the team.

Did Shanahan do this too? They've been talking about Kubiak relying on those days in his preparation this week

spikerman
01-31-2016, 02:40 PM
Did Shanahan do this too? They've been talking about Kubiak relying on those days in his preparation this week

I think so, but couldn't swear to it. I think that's one thing they used to criticize about Reeves. He would wait and the team didn't seem as prepared as it could have been.

Denver Native (Carol)
01-31-2016, 03:17 PM
I can understand, because just about everything about this game is making me nervous right now. But consider that this is different than how Fox approached the Super Bowl preparation, and anything that is the anti-Fox plan probably seems better given the result. I think they also said they had the Patriots game plan done early in the week last game as well (though obviously they didn't have the week off) and that worked out. I keep thinking about how confident they were in their plan for that game and how well they executed. If they have that same confidence at this point, I see no reason to panic. We have to trust that the coaching staff knows what they're doing.

Right now, a game plan is only as good as what you have seen on game tapes. I am sure both teams will have some new stuff in, whether it be on offense or defense.

spikerman
01-31-2016, 03:25 PM
Anybody know how the turnout was for the "send off" today? I've been hearing how impressive the Panthers' fan turnout was.

Denver Native (Carol)
01-31-2016, 03:30 PM
Anybody know how the turnout was for the "send off" today? I've been hearing how impressive the Panthers' fan turnout was.

Started at 1:00. Will find out from local news how it went. I did find this - happening now
Broncos' plane getting ready -
http://www.9news.com/videos/news/local/2015/12/02/5993325/

slim
01-31-2016, 03:57 PM
Carol, is Clete your son?

Denver Native (Carol)
01-31-2016, 04:04 PM
Broncos depart for SB50: Shaq Barrett
Broncos TV's Matt Boyer catches up with linebacker Shaquil Barrett as the buses depart for the airport on their way to Super Bowl 50.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Broncos-depart-for-SB50-Shaq-Barrett/29c717c6-44d4-4ddf-aaf1-5ad3e1351556

Denver Native (Carol)
01-31-2016, 04:10 PM
Troy Renck Retweeted
Brock Osweiler ‏@bosweiler17 2h

Thank you for the awesome send off...best fans in the world! #broncos #broncoscountry #superbowl… https://www.instagram.com/p/BBNxaBIJTBD/

At Dove Valley

Denver Native (Carol)
01-31-2016, 04:12 PM
some good stuff on Broncos twitter

Denver Native (Carol)
01-31-2016, 04:26 PM
Carol, is Clete your son?

No, not Clete

GEM
01-31-2016, 04:27 PM
Broncos rally, Sunday 1-2:30. Civic Center Park. :rockon:

Good time at the rally. I'll have to post pics at work tomorrow as my phone don't like to.

Denver Native (Carol)
01-31-2016, 04:58 PM
DENVER — The Denver Broncos are on their way to San Francisco. United is getting in on the celebration, too, with a new paint job.

There was a big send off from Dove Valley at 12:30 pm as the Broncos players and staff headed to the airport.

The team departed DIA at 1:44 pm Sunday, which is a delay from their scheduled 12:45 pm takeoff. Unlike the Panthers in their generic charter, the Broncos will be flying in a ‘customized’ United 767.

The team is scheduled to arrive in San Jose just after 4 pm mountain time. Fox 31’s sports team will be meeting the team at the San Jose International Airport and will live stream the arrival.

http://kdvr.com/2016/01/31/broncos-depart-dia-in-custom-ride/

If you want to watch the live stream of the Broncos arrival, go to kdvr.com

GEM
01-31-2016, 05:38 PM
The takeoff was aired at the rally. The team taxi'd the opposite direction of takeoff, turned back around and took off. They said the Broncos asked for that as a nod to the fans.

Denver Native (Carol)
01-31-2016, 05:59 PM
Photos: Fans rally downtown in support of Super Bowl-bound Broncos

http://kdvr.com/2016/01/31/photos-fans-rally-downtown-in-support-of-super-bowl-bound-broncos/

TXBRONC
01-31-2016, 06:05 PM
I can understand, because just about everything about this game is making me nervous right now. But consider that this is different than how Fox approached the Super Bowl preparation, and anything that is the anti-Fox plan probably seems better given the result. I think they also said they had the Patriots game plan done early in the week last game as well (though obviously they didn't have the week off) and that worked out. I keep thinking about how confident they were in their plan for that game and how well they executed. If they have that same confidence at this point, I see no reason to panic. We have to trust that the coaching staff knows what they're doing.


Kubiak has plenty of experience with how Super Bowl winning teams handle things. I would not be surprised if he handles things similar to Shanahan.

Denver Native (Carol)
01-31-2016, 06:29 PM
Denver Broncos ‏@Broncos 9m

Waiting for us at the bottom of the stairs in San Jose: @Terrell_Davis!

Denver Native (Carol)
01-31-2016, 07:49 PM
The Broncos travel to Santa Clara for SB50
Players, coaches and staff travel to Santa Clara for Super Bowl 50.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/The-Broncos-travel-to-Santa-Clara-for-SB50/825f6761-ce7d-4d37-a02c-231e5eced55b

Wheels Up: Broncos travel to Super Bowl 50

Photos - http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/photo-gallery/Wheels-Up-Broncos-travel-to-Super-Bowl-50/06e787d2-dfe6-48f1-a18e-919899cfd41d

GEM
01-31-2016, 08:07 PM
Saw some videos of the hotel in Santa Clara...lots of Broncos fans. :D

Joel
01-31-2016, 09:43 PM
I found the following 2015 NFL strength of schedule. Found it interesting in regards to the Broncos and Carolina. Does it mean anything now - maybe, maybe not

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25066031/2015-nfl-strength-of-schedule-steelers-at-no-1-falcons-at-no-32
Last year taught me that preseason SoS means little: Blowing out SF looked impressive when they were fresh off their 3rd straight NFCCG, but by seasons end they'd fired their coach because they'd turned into... well, this years team. And who predicted a Minnesota division championship last September?

All that said, this years END of season SoS (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2015/) had us 12th overall (just behind Seattle and ahead of the Bengals and Vikings,) while Carolina was dead last (by a wide margin.) The only team that came close was the 8-8 Falcons who won Carolinas sole loss, and TB was tied with the Jets and Jags for 3rd easiest schedule, yet still finished 6-10. The 7-9 Saints had the 10th easiest schedule.

In other words, Carolina not only got a VERY soft schedule facing the AFCs AND NFCs worst division, its OWN division was teams with the 2nd, 3rd and 10th easiest schedules but STILL unable to top .500. That's all but TWO Carolinas regular season games (the others were a 27-23 win @Seattle and 37-29 hosting GB.)

For what it's worth, Carolina was only +1 in turnovers vs. GB, and actually -2 @Seattle, so those are solid wins, but the rest prove little either way. It's stupid to say they suck because they should've blown out bad teams MORE, but beating lots of bad teams doesn't prove them elite either.

Denver Native (Carol)
01-31-2016, 09:55 PM
1-on-1 with Kubiak from team hotel

Head Coach Gary Kubiak spoke with Phil Milani upon arrival in Santa Clara.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/1-on-1-with-Kubiak-from-team-hotel/43ad2942-07ed-4291-bcc4-4715bc26310a

Denver Native (Carol)
01-31-2016, 10:23 PM
Wheels Down: Broncos land in Santa Clara

Photos - http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/photo-gallery/Wheels-Down-Broncos-land-in-Santa-Clara/e53af93d-4832-45cf-8ae2-b379702a8d08

VonDoom
02-01-2016, 09:01 AM
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/694127752002162692

Northman
02-01-2016, 09:19 AM
https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlf1/v/t1.0-9/12592542_10104868634559792_6871880459403703284_n.j pg?oh=65016ecbd7a6509882342884d4041b68&oe=574329D5

VonDoom
02-01-2016, 09:53 AM
I saw this in Mike Tanier's column today and thought it was pretty funny:


The Broncos are 9-0 this season when they run for 105 yards or more. This stat actually flashed on NFL Network's crawl throughout the weekend. It's the kind of nutty nugget that makes Super Bowl coverage seem trite (when only most of it is) while keeping football analytics firmly rooted in the Stone Age. It's a double-whammy of statistical tomfoolery.

First, it rehashes the old cause-and-effect problem of running the ball and winning games. Teams tend to accumulate higher rushing totals because they are playing with a lead; they don't take the lead (in most NFL circumstances) because they are accumulating high rushing totals.

The Broncos also have a gaudy record when they kick off more than their opponent and their quarterback kneels more often than the opponent's quarterback, but no one says that a team should "establish the kickoffs and kneels."

Second, that "105 yards" plateau is flashing like a neon sign, isn't it? You look at it and just know that the Broncos lost a game in which they rushed for between 100 and 104 yards.

Sure enough, they rushed for 104 yards in their regular-season loss to the Steelers. For some reason, an NFL Network staffer didn't think a 9-1 record when rushing for over 100 yards was impressive enough.

The Broncos do play better when their running game is humming, and running the ball is more important to them than it is to a team like the Patriots. Just don't expect the Panthers to fall to their knees in surrender if the Broncos reach 106 rushing yards.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2612365-nfl-super-bowl-week-hangover-cam-newton-vs-peyton-manning-vs-america

BroncoJoe
02-01-2016, 09:56 AM
Z6Y-iDI6vwE

Lets hope!

Northman
02-01-2016, 10:15 AM
I saw this in Mike Tanier's column today and thought it was pretty funny:



http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2612365-nfl-super-bowl-week-hangover-cam-newton-vs-peyton-manning-vs-america


As good as the Panthers are they did give up 60 yds and a TD on the ground to the Cardinals so i think we can run on them. We just cant give up the ball like the Cardinals did.

GEM
02-01-2016, 10:21 AM
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Broncos rally

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VonDoom
02-01-2016, 10:26 AM
From Andy Benoit at the MMQB - how the Broncos will account for Josh Norman:


Manning today plays in a less vertical passing game under head coach Gary Kubiak than he did two years ago under then-offensive coordinator Adam Gase. Avoiding Norman on the perimeter would not be outlandishly disruptive to Denver’s M.O., but avoiding any corner comes with the inherent cost of shrinking the field. And shrinking the field against a speedy zone defense like Carolina’s can be perilous.

But that doesn’t mean the Broncos won’t do it. Playing opposite Norman is Robert McClain, a fifth-year veteran who was added to the roster in December after injuries to Bene Benwikere and Charles Tillman thinned the cornerbacking corps. When inexperienced corners enter a lineup in midstream, defensive coordinators tend to have their corners play the same side snap after snap, in order to help that new corner get comfortable. The down side is that offenses are able to dictate matchups. Not surprisingly, Carolina’s opponents have deliberately thrown at McClain on the perimeter, with plus and minus results. If the Broncos want, they can get No. 1 receiver Demaryius Thomas against him simply by aligning Thomas outside to the left side of the offense.

Every once and a while, Norman and McClain will flip sides so that Norman can match against a certain receiver. This would be Carolina’s only recourse against Thomas, and it becomes null should Thomas align in the slot, where neither McClain nor Norman operate. (Those duties belong to Cortland Finnegan.) Because the Panthers are a nickel zone defense that plays five defensive backs and two linebackers—rather than six DBs and one linebacker like dime a defense would—the Broncos can use trips formations (three receivers aligned to the same side) to get Thomas matched against linebackers Luke Kuechly or Thomas Davis. Both are excellent cover linebackers, but not to the extent that they’d win repeated matchups against an upper echelon wide receiver.

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/02/01/nfl-super-bowl-50-peyton-manning-josh-norman-denver-broncos-carolina-panthers

GEM
02-01-2016, 10:30 AM
It's settling in today...Super Bowl week...and we're part of it. Holy shit! :D There are many sports fans who will never know this feeling...this just makes me so much more appreciative of my team. Love my Broncos!!! :D

NightTerror218
02-01-2016, 10:54 AM
We are ready. My daughter loves her broncos hat and jersey. Picture from Steelers game.

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Nomad
02-01-2016, 11:26 AM
We are ready. My daughter loves her broncos hat and jersey. Picture from Steelers game.

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Awesome! It's a little late but.........congrats on your daughter.

Nomad
02-01-2016, 11:29 AM
It's settling in today...Super Bowl week...and we're part of it. Holy shit! :D There are many sports fans who will never know this feeling...this just makes me so much more appreciative of my team. Love my Broncos!!! :D

Yes! 30 other teams, and their fans, wish they were in this spot.

Denver Native (Carol)
02-01-2016, 12:48 PM
Normally a daytime event on the Tuesday preceding the Super Bowl, the league has moved it to Monday night and branded it as "Super Bowl Opening Night." Looking to capitalize on fans' insatiable appetite for everything NFL, the league is shining a primetime spotlight on the circus-like affair and giving it the same pomp and circumstance that it bestows on every other league happening.

Thousands of credentialed members of the press will descend upon the SAP Center in San Jose, Calif., to grill players and coaches about what has become one of the world's biggest sporting events. The festivities will televised live on the NFL Network, beginning at 8 p.m. ET with interviews being conducted from approximately 8:15 to 9:15 p.m. and 10 to 11 p.m.

AND


Here's the info you need to know to watch the festivities on television or stream it online:
How to Watch

Time: 8 p.m. ET

Location: SAP Center, San Jose, Calif.

TV: NFL Network

Online Streaming: NFL Now

full article - http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2016/2/1/10834246/super-bowl-2016-media-day-online-streaming-time-tv-schedule

NightTerror218
02-01-2016, 02:13 PM
Awesome! It's a little late but.........congrats on your daughter.

Thanks 16 months going on 16 years

Davii
02-01-2016, 03:12 PM
So, there was one Panthers fan in my office all season long. One. We talked a few times. Amazing how they come out of the woodwork now. Panther logos on my desk, hearing shit all day long about it, Cam Vs Peyton, etc etc etc. I hope we stomp these ********. I'm just tired of so many bandwagon fans. The most tolerable person at work has been my Colonel who is a life long, die hard, Pats fan. We've had some great conversations to include talking about the game last Wednesday. He's an awesome guy and we had a great chat about the game and he's rooting for the Broncos. Said he's actually glad the Broncos won because he felt his Pats would get blown out because their D isn't good enough and their offense is one dimensional. He said he thinks we have a better shot.

Anyhow, just sick of the "Panther fans" gloating all over the place. I just say we'll see what happens...

Nomad
02-01-2016, 03:26 PM
I have not seen one Panthers fan up here, but I'm not really looking either. I'm sure they're here with an Army and Air Force base. There are many BRONCO fans, and the ones I have talked too, all are pessimistic about the BRONCOS chances........ The debbie downer BRONCO fans of Alaska :lol:

VonDoom
02-01-2016, 03:38 PM
So, there was one Panthers fan in my office all season long. One. We talked a few times. Amazing how they come out of the woodwork now. Panther logos on my desk, hearing shit all day long about it, Cam Vs Peyton, etc etc etc. I hope we stomp these ********. I'm just tired of so many bandwagon fans. The most tolerable person at work has been my Colonel who is a life long, die hard, Pats fan. We've had some great conversations to include talking about the game last Wednesday. He's an awesome guy and we had a great chat about the game and he's rooting for the Broncos. Said he's actually glad the Broncos won because he felt his Pats would get blown out because their D isn't good enough and their offense is one dimensional. He said he thinks we have a better shot.

Anyhow, just sick of the "Panther fans" gloating all over the place. I just say we'll see what happens...

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Denver Native (Carol)
02-01-2016, 04:26 PM
The Golden Road: 50 moments that got the Broncos to Super Bowl 50 -- 1-25

http://www.denverbroncos.com/news-and-blogs/article-primesport/The-Golden-Road-50-moments-that-got-the-Broncos-to-Super-Bowl-50----1-25/e35e2a8f-7311-4e78-9266-de8797ed5e8e

The Golden Road: 50 moments that got the Broncos to Super Bowl 50, 26-50

http://www.denverbroncos.com/news-and-blogs/article-primesport/The-Golden-Road-50-moments-that-got-the-Broncos-to-Super-Bowl-50-26-50/b2e08e0e-9503-4002-91df-9a2649726c28

TXBRONC
02-01-2016, 04:35 PM
Z6Y-iDI6vwE

Lets hope!

As I said in North's thread I think all Bronco fans could live with that score.

GEM
02-01-2016, 04:38 PM
I have not seen one Panthers fan up here, but I'm not really looking either. I'm sure they're here with an Army and Air Force base. There are many BRONCO fans, and the ones I have talked too, all are pessimistic about the BRONCOS chances........ The debbie downer BRONCO fans of Alaska :lol:

There was a Panther fan at the rally, the Mayor of Denver called him out and he was boo'd out of the rally. :laugh:

Denver Native (Carol)
02-01-2016, 04:54 PM
Thunder departs for Super Bowl 50
The Broncos Mascot Thunder starts the journey to Santa Clara.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Thunder-departs-for-Super-Bowl-50/1adf5644-4002-4657-b41f-f86174b1039c

1-on-1 with John Elway at the team hotel

Broncos TV's Matt Boyer speaks with general manager John Elway about head coach Gary Kubiak's success in year one, his thoughts on Von Miller and Cam Newton, and how the Super Bowl as an event has changed through the years.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/1on1_with_John_Elway_at_the_team_hotel/5e8d923d-656a-49f3-ae32-8030bdaa4c51

Young offensive linemen ready for first Super Bowl

Broncos offensive linemen Matt Paradis, Michael Schofield, and rookie Max Garcia recap what it was like seeing Broncos Country all along their journey to Super Bowl 50 in Santa Clara.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Young_offensive_linemen_ready_for_first_Super_Bowl/60698ac2-fd1a-4e9a-80e7-6d36f18e02cf

Valar Morghulis
02-01-2016, 04:55 PM
I have one panther fan.

She is a really fat woman, I have seen her in a Panthers hoodie on a few occasions.

I have therefore assumed she is a fan, but may well just be eating the hoodie as a fashion accessory.

I did meet a Colts fan the other day, he stopped me in the shop and asked about my jersey and if I was looking forward to Sunday. It's that rare I met a genuine fan they could be a total asshat and I would still talk to them!

BroncoJoe
02-01-2016, 04:57 PM
I have one panther fan.

She is a really fat woman, I have seen her in a Panthers hoodie on a few occasions.

I have therefore assumed she is a fan, but may well just be eating the hoodie as a fashion accessory.

I did meet a Colts fan the other day, he stopped me in the shop and asked about my jersey and if I was looking forward to Sunday. It's that rare I met a genuine fan they could be a total asshat and I would still talk to them!

Did you have your way with her?

Valar Morghulis
02-01-2016, 04:59 PM
Did you have your way with her?

Yes.

Northman
02-01-2016, 05:03 PM
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Denver Native (Carol)
02-01-2016, 05:22 PM
Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 58m

Tony Gonzalez on #Broncos' Manning:"In my opinion, I think it will be his final game. And I think it's going to be a treat for all of us."

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 1h

#CBS' Phil Simms on #Broncos DC Wade Phillips:"I think he has shocked the football establishment the last couple of weeks (with evolving D)"

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 2h

#CBS Tony Gonzalez predicts #broncos will win. He drew inspiration from Manning during his career

TXBRONC
02-01-2016, 06:22 PM
There was a Panther fan at the rally, the Mayor of Denver called him out and he was boo'd out of the rally. :laugh:

Was he acting like a punk?

Denver Native (Carol)
02-01-2016, 06:54 PM
Behind the scenes at Broncos' first Super Bowl practice

Photos - http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/photo-gallery/Behind-the-scenes-at-Broncos-first-Super-Bowl-practice/5a48e153-babb-4bd4-b38d-c622815bbdf5

GEM
02-01-2016, 06:59 PM
Was he acting like a punk?

Loud and boisterous but not horrible.

chazoe60
02-01-2016, 07:23 PM
There was a Panther fan at the rally, the Mayor of Denver called him out and he was boo'd out of the rally. :laugh:

A real life Panther fan? I thought they were just a myth. Probably a Raider fan in disguise.

SR
02-01-2016, 07:33 PM
Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 58m Tony Gonzalez on #Broncos' Manning:"In my opinion, I think it will be his final game. And I think it's going to be a treat for all of us." Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 1h #CBS' Phil Simms on #Broncos DC Wade Phillips:"I think he has shocked the football establishment the last couple of weeks (with evolving D)" Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 2h #CBS Tony Gonzalez predicts #broncos will win. He drew inspiration from Manning during his career

Gonzales was also the only person on the CBS pregame show that picked NE to lose to Denver.

Edmonton Bronco Fan
02-01-2016, 07:43 PM
Not sure if Carol has posted this yet but an excellent read on Demaryius' mom.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14687893/demaryius-thomas-mother-makes-hard-choice-super-bowl


DEMARYIUS THOMAS HAS just sent his mother a picture of the most unlikely Super Bowl ticket of all, the one intended for her, and now Katina Smith has a few days to decide whether she's prepared to take it.

It's been just six months since President Barack Obama granted her clemency and released her from federal prison 15 years into a 20-year drug sentence. It's been 10 weeks since she left a halfway house and moved back home; eight weeks since she bought her first cellphone; five weeks since she learned to drive again; and four weeks since she met some of her nieces and nephews for the first time. It's been two days since her most recent panic attack, which she spent holed up in her bedroom, overwhelmed by the freedoms and stresses of the outside world.

"I'm like a child," she tells Demaryius during a phone call. "I have to relearn everything. It's information overload, and my head is about to explode."

Her transition back into society has had its stressful moments, but never more so than this week. Relatives call for Super Bowl tickets. Strangers on the Internet complain to her about Demaryius' dropped passes. Her parole officer says she needs to find a job, enroll in college, submit to another drug test and fill out paperwork if she wants to travel to the Super Bowl in San Francisco. He has questions about her potential itinerary, and Katina has questions, too -- all of which she asks Demaryius each morning during their daily calls. (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14687893/demaryius-thomas-mother-makes-hard-choice-super-bowl)

TXBRONC
02-01-2016, 08:31 PM
Loud and boisterous but not horrible.

Close enough.

Joel
02-01-2016, 10:27 PM
I saw this in Mike Tanier's column today and thought it was pretty funny:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2612365-nfl-super-bowl-week-hangover-cam-newton-vs-peyton-manning-vs-america
That was an awesome clinic on what's wrong with cherry-picking and why 100-yd rushing games are winnings consequence rather than cause.

All that said, pass rushers don't hesitate nor safeties stack the box because of kickoffs and kneel downs: We NEED to run well in order to open the passing game, especially as bad as our "protection" is. Note that that's "run WELL," not just "run;" averaging 2 yds/att won't make play-action credible, bring safeties out of Cover 2 or force blitzers to look over their shoulder: PITIFUL runs scare NO ONE, certainly not enough they'll defend them at the expense of allowing 50 yd TD bombs.

Joel
02-01-2016, 10:48 PM
From Andy Benoit at the MMQB - how the Broncos will account for Josh Norman:

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/02/01/nfl-super-bowl-50-peyton-manning-josh-norman-denver-broncos-carolina-panthers
Finnegan's for real though; if we go that route (or even if we don't) DT MUST come out of his funk and play like his last (record-setting) SB. I don't know if it's nagging injuries, his mom, something else or a combo, but if he's bouncing balls off his hands they're gonna end up in PANTHERS hands: Their D is just too opportunistic for mistakes like that. Their offense didn't blow out Arizona, turnovers did, just as turnovers decided both of our playoff games.

That and our shoddy "protection" are why a high variance game plan would make me nervous. But if Carolina truly is significantly better than us, risking a blowout for a shot to win is better than a close but guaranteed loss. It's not like we run block much better, or Carolinas run D is awful; NE* has an awful run D we struggled to run on (partly because they sold out on it) and our LONE turnover kept them in it for 4 qtrs, else their last drive wouldn't have mattered.

It keeps returning to that: Are "they better than us?" If not, our mantra should be "never give a sucker an even break:" Keep it on the ground, avoid the turnovers on which Carolina feeds and trust the #1 D and Anderson to win. But if Carolina truly is better, forcing the issue is our ONLY chance—even if it blows up in our faces.

I hope we win just because I don't want to wonder the rest of my life if we lost a game we could've and SHOULD'VE won 5 days ago when installing the game plan.

BroncoBuckeye73
02-01-2016, 11:38 PM
Sorry Joel I have to say outside of Norman the Panthers secondary is not good hence the reason they play so much zone. Finnegan and their other corner were both signed in December when their regular corners went down with injuries. Finnegan really he has been washed up ever since the Rams way overpaid him to be just a piece of burnt toast. We can get him all day in their base cover 2.

Joel
02-02-2016, 01:34 AM
Sorry Joel I have to say outside of Norman the Panthers secondary is not good hence the reason they play so much zone. Finnegan and their other corner were both signed in December when their regular corners went down with injuries. Finnegan really he has been washed up ever since the Rams way overpaid him to be just a piece of burnt toast. We can get him all day in their base cover 2.
They didn't lead the league in turnover differential, and Ints specifically, because of a one-man secondary. Granted, their ILBs had (IIRC) 8, but even without those Carolina would be tied with GB for 8th most Ints, and Norman only hd 4: Coleman had 7, which is tied for the NFLs 3rd best this season. Anyway, today's Finnegans 32nd birthday, so give the dude a break. :tongue:

It still comes down to whether we should even TRY to test them. If we truly think we're the better team, the answer is "HELL, no: Play our game, keep it on the ground and DON'T give away any of the free possessions or short fields that got them to 15-1 and the SB; just trust the #1 D and Manning to keep it tight, then the #1 D and Anderson to win it late." The ONLY way we should get into a high risk/reward air war with a D THAT turnover-crazed is if we doubt we can beat them straight up.

Northman
02-02-2016, 06:16 AM
Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 58m

Tony Gonzalez on #Broncos' Manning:"In my opinion, I think it will be his final game. And I think it's going to be a treat for all of us."

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 1h

#CBS' Phil Simms on #Broncos DC Wade Phillips:"I think he has shocked the football establishment the last couple of weeks (with evolving D)"

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 2h

#CBS Tony Gonzalez predicts #broncos will win. He drew inspiration from Manning during his career

Missy was telling me she was reading last night there has been a lot of talk in Manning's private circles about this being it. Hope he is able to go out on top.

SR
02-02-2016, 07:23 AM
Sorry Joel I have to say outside of Norman the Panthers secondary is not good hence the reason they play so much zone. Finnegan and their other corner were both signed in December when their regular corners went down with injuries. Finnegan really he has been washed up ever since the Rams way overpaid him to be just a piece of burnt toast. We can get him all day in their base cover 2.

Yes. Finnegan isn't good.

BroncoBuckeye73
02-02-2016, 01:38 PM
They might have lead the league in turnovers but 2 of their starting corners went on I.R. in December and the signed to street free agents to replace them. Coleman their free saftey and Norman their corner are both having career years for them but really have not been anything special till now. Rivera is a Lovie Smith disciple who runs a cover two which Coleman loved as he played a ton of zone in college. Payton picked Riveras cover 2 apart for his only Super bowl win and even at his age he can do it again against a weakened secondary.

DenBronx
02-02-2016, 01:44 PM
Tony G picking us to win? You mean not everyone is on the Carolina hype train? Tony should have unretired and played this year for us!!

Denver Native (Carol)
02-02-2016, 02:05 PM
Kubes is talking on ESPN right now

Joel
02-02-2016, 02:15 PM
They might have lead the league in turnovers but 2 of their starting corners went on I.R. in December and the signed to street free agents to replace them. Coleman their free saftey and Norman their corner are both having career years for them but really have not been anything special till now. Rivera is a Lovie Smith disciple who runs a cover two which Coleman loved as he played a ton of zone in college. Payton picked Riveras cover 2 apart for his only Super bowl win and even at his age he can do it again against a weakened secondary.
Hope you're right, but those arguments tend toward contradiction in my eyes: If we're THAT much better than Carolina we should play a low-variance game they can't win without forcing all the turnovers that got them to the SB in the first place; just run the ball and count on the #1 D to reliably win a close one.

The only way airing it out with an aging injured QB and garbage protection makes sense is if they ARE better than us, by so much we CAN'T win a by-the-book game, in which case throwing into a good secondary is a dangerous but necessary risk.

One reason I hope we win is that if we lose swinging for the fences I'll always wonder if we really were better and could've beaten them the way we won the AFC, but if we lose playing conservative I'll always wonder if taking just a few more chances might've won. Their schedule was SO much weaker and their turnover differential SO high I'm genuinely not sure who's the better team.

Denver Native (Carol)
02-02-2016, 02:15 PM
Peyton is now talking on ESPN

VonDoom
02-02-2016, 02:16 PM
Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 10m10 minutes ago

Kubiak said he had no players report any injuries from the bus accident Monday. Players were checked out by team medical staff.

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 9m9 minutes ago

Kubiak: "I expect both (Ward and Stewart) to be back on the practice field tomorrow when we go to work."

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 6m6 minutes ago

Kubiak said 1st day got job called every player on the football team and "was proud to he part of this." Said Ware, Manning, Miller leaders

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 5m5 minutes ago

Kubiak on Osweiler simulating Cam Newton: "He's not quite as fast, I can tell you that ... but I think he's done a really good job."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 5m5 minutes ago

Kubiak: "The extra week has really helped us, especially defensively."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 4m4 minutes ago

Kubiak: "When we left town, I feel like we could have played a football game."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 4m4 minutes ago

Kubiak: "There's still a lot of work to do & we'll stay in our routine, but our work last week was good."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 3m3 minutes ago

Kubiak: The tandem of Thomas Davis and Luke Kuechly "are as good as there is in this league."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 2m2 minutes ago

Von Miller's personality "is great for our team chemistry ... he's a character in the right way."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 2m2 minutes ago

Kubiak, on Manning's lack of INTs since returning to the field: "It has a lot to do health-wise with him feeling better."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 1m1 minute ago

Kubiak: Part of Manning's lack of INTs stems from Manning "understanding the type of team he's on" re: defense & protecting the football.

Denver Native (Carol)
02-02-2016, 02:38 PM
Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 5m

#Broncos Von Miller said " energy going into AFC championship was nothing like I had felt before."


Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 11m

#broncos Derek Wolfe emphasized defense has defined self by physical play

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 12m

#broncos CJ Anderson said took while to adjust to zone run game "I learned to be patience."

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 16m

Malik Jackson when Wade Phillips"he surprised me in lockerroom when said. 'I like Drake because I started from the bottom and know I'm here"

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 20m

#broncos Malik Jackson meets the press on Antonio Smith "he's the biblical ninja"

VonDoom
02-02-2016, 02:46 PM
Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 6m6 minutes ago

#broncos von miller said "Talib and Ward are the bash brothers. They are the attitude of our defense. They get us hyped."

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 5m5 minutes ago

#broncos von miller said huge that team brought out all players at same time. Not injured guys later in week. Even team cook is out here.

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 4m4 minutes ago

Learn something every day #Broncos Von said he throws 100 passes a day to Emmanuel and DT. Von joked he's open to playing offense

Denver Native (Carol)
02-02-2016, 02:50 PM
Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 38s

#broncos Talib "TJ is our Tasmanian Devil. He plays with his hair on fire."

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 8m

Learn something every day #Broncos Von said he throws 100 passes a day to Emmanuel and DT. Von joked he's open to playing offense

Northman
02-02-2016, 03:07 PM
The good news is the last time Denver had 2 weeks to prepare for a team they came out and destroyed the Packers. I like our chances.

Denver Native (Carol)
02-02-2016, 03:30 PM
Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 40s

#Broncos Von Miller "We have to be the best defense on the field to win the game.. We know that."..

Denver Native (Carol)
02-02-2016, 03:51 PM
SAN JOSE, Calif. -- Cam Newton's unwavering confidence was on full display during Super Bowl 50 Opening Night festivities.

Asked about his team's chances in Sunday's game, Newton replied, "if they're at their best and we're at our best, we're going to win.

"We have different ways to attack the defense and I feel as if we're at our best and the other team is at their best, not just speaking of the Denver Broncos, just any other team," Newton said. "If we're at our best and another team is at their best, we will still win."

rest - http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000631270/article/cam-newton-if-both-teams-play-their-best-we-will-win

Denver Native (Carol)
02-02-2016, 03:54 PM
The New England Patriots have played in six Super Bowls since 2001, and they were one win away from making it seven this season. Because of that, their fans are overtly confident in their team's ability to reach the big game year in and year out.

This year was no different.

Coming off of a Super Bowl win a year ago, Patriots fans were already looking into making the trip to San Francisco for the 50th edition of the NFL title game. Actually, throughout the season, they looked for flights to the Bay Area more than any other fan base outside of the Denver Broncos.

rest - http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/new-england-patriots-denver-broncos-super-bowl-flights-google-map-020216

Denver Native (Carol)
02-02-2016, 04:03 PM
The Carolina Panthers lost only once this season, in Week 16 to the Atlanta Falcons, so it’s pretty tough to figure out what could undermine them with everything on the line Sunday in the Super Bowl. But every team can be undone, and Carolina is no different. Here are five things that could trip up the Panthers against the Broncos.

1. A BAD GAME FROM CAM NEWTON

It seems silly to say it given that Newton is about to win the league MVP award, but he’s not that far removed from a rather ordinary start to the season, when his passer rating was lower than 80 in five of the Panthers’ first seven games. Those were the days when everyone thought Carolina’s fast start was a fluke -- largely because the Panthers seemed to let even bad opponents hang around. It wasn’t until Newton started topping 100 in passer rating regularly -- as he did in nine of his last 11 games, including the playoffs -- that Carolina began blowing out opponents and convincing folks they were the real deal. When Newton did struggle in one late-season game -- 17-of-30 passing for 142 yards -- Atlanta pulled off the Week 16 upset. Denver’s top-ranked defense has a way of making quarterbacks look bad, so it’s at least worth considering that Newton might come back to earth in this game.

2. ACTING LIKE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN THERE BEFORE

rest - http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/super-bowl-50-preview-carolina-panthers-denver-broncos-cam-newton-peyton-manning-020216

chazoe60
02-02-2016, 04:05 PM
Home with my kids because of a snow day so I'm watching all the press conference stuff and I've noticed something. With the Panthers its all about the Panthers "we just have to do what we do" and statements similar to that. With the Broncos its all about the Panthers "we have to play our best to beat them they are really good".

I love our attitude so much better than theirs it really isn't even close. The Panthers put off a vibe that they think the game is a lock. Doesn't mean we'll win but we sure as **** have a better mindset going in.

Denver Native (Carol)
02-02-2016, 04:08 PM
One of the biggest headaches for any player who makes the Super Bowl is getting tickets. The three biggest problems with Super Bowl tickets are: Everybody wants one, they're hard to get and even if you can get one, they're really expensive.

Actually, there's also a fourth problem: Everyone has to have a ticket, even babies.

Broncos punter Britton Colquitt found that out the hard way while he was putting in his ticket requests for Super Bowl 50. Each player is allotted 15 tickets for the game; however, to get those tickets, they have to pay $1,800 for each one -- and that $1,800 price even applies to 2-week-old babies.

Babies can fly free on a plane, but when it comes to the Super Bowl, they have to pay full price.

"There's no age limit to tickets. It's $1,800 for our week-old daughter we just had. It's kind of crazy," Colquitt told the Denver Post, just days after the Broncos AFC title game win.

rest - http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25470335/broncos-punter-learns-2000-lesson-babies-dont-get-in-free-at-super-bowl

TXBRONC
02-02-2016, 04:20 PM
rest - http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/super-bowl-50-preview-carolina-panthers-denver-broncos-cam-newton-peyton-manning-020216

They are cocky and all the pressure is on them.

Dzone
02-02-2016, 04:28 PM
Manning presser is worth watching twice
Very commendable -Cam Newton-sidesteps race questions to put focus on the bigger picture. Yes, good to see someone say basically come on its time to move on and stop bringing up the race issue.
Just watched his interview and he is the real deal. Hard not to like the guy. He's a helluva lot cooler than drones like flacco and kaepernick.

SR
02-02-2016, 04:33 PM
Manning presser is worth watching twice Very commendable -Cam Newton-sidesteps race questions to put focus on the bigger picture. Yes, good to see someone say basically come on its time to move on and stop bringing up the race issue. Just watched his interview and he is the real deal. Hard not to like the guy. He's a helluva lot cooler than drones like flacco and kaepernick.

Admittedly, I'm not a big Cam fan but some of the things he's said in the last few days have really started to change my opinion of his persona. I still think he's a little bit too much of a "look at me everyone!" for my liking, but he's not dumb and he knows the impact he has which is commendable. Those pants he wore the other day have got to go.

Northman
02-02-2016, 04:41 PM
Home with my kids because of a snow day so I'm watching all the press conference stuff and I've noticed something. With the Panthers its all about the Panthers "we just have to do what we do" and statements similar to that. With the Broncos its all about the Panthers "we have to play our best to beat them they are really good".

I love our attitude so much better than theirs it really isn't even close. The Panthers put off a vibe that they think the game is a lock. Doesn't mean we'll win but we sure as **** have a better mindset going in.

"We playin the Indianapolis Colts right now! They arent even good!"

Yea, thats how i see the Panthers being right now i hope we shut them up just like we did the Packers.

chazoe60
02-02-2016, 05:07 PM
Manning presser is worth watching twice
Very commendable -Cam Newton-sidesteps race questions to put focus on the bigger picture. Yes, good to see someone say basically come on its time to move on and stop bringing up the race issue.
Just watched his interview and he is the real deal. Hard not to like the guy. He's a helluva lot cooler than drones like flacco and kaepernick.

Cam is side stepping the race issue but he was the one who brought it up first. I was :laugh: my ass off at his dodge of the issue he essentially made into an issue in his press conference last week.

Denver Native (Carol)
02-02-2016, 05:15 PM
Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 9m

Lady Gaga will sing National Anthem at #SuperBowl 50. #broncos v #Panthers

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 2h

#Broncos Von Miller. "Having all players out here is great. Even our cook, Alfedo, is here. IIt's great. It's been a positive vibe all week"

Denver Native (Carol)
02-02-2016, 05:18 PM
Kubiak: 'We have a lot of confidence in our team'
Head coach Gary Kubiak addresses the media on Tuesday after the second day of practice.
http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Kubiak-We-have-a-lot-of-confidence-in-our-team/af3aa428-cdd9-45f7-9c45-00bd6aab82c3

Denver Native (Carol)
02-02-2016, 05:43 PM
Key to Success:Team Leadership
The leadership by the veterans was key to the team's success this season as they made their way to the Super Bowl
http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Key-to-SuccessTeam-Leadership/ff73d5d1-4663-410f-b507-019d3f9e7005

Anderson: 'We just have to go play one more game'
C.J. Anderson spoke at media availability on Tuesday.
http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Anderson_We_just_have_to_go_play_one_more_game/6ba8299f-efb4-426a-9ae3-7c6064eb5731

Sanders on Super Bowl: 'Definitely a blessing'
Emmanuel Sanders spoke at the media availability on Tuesday.
http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Sanders_on_Super_Bowl_Definitely_a_blessing/0b13cbb0-f92e-4e04-a3ba-bde8ce6d51dd

Nomad
02-02-2016, 06:00 PM
Only way to keep Newton quiet is to beat him and the Panthers.

Denver Native (Carol)
02-02-2016, 06:32 PM
Broncos safety pens column on team's road to Super Bowl 50
By David Bruton Jr.
Broncos safety


We are going in the Super Bowl! Not just any Super Bowl. This is Super Bowl 50!

The Broncos have kicked and screamed and clawed their way into the biggest game of the year, the one every team strives for. The amount of work that has to be put in for a chance to be a world champion is well worth it. Every player and every team enters organized team activities and training camp with one goal in mind: to win the Super Bowl. Now there are only two teams left, one to hoist the Vince Lombardi Trophy at the end of the game, and I am confident that it will be us, the Broncos.

This year's Broncos are different. We are not the team from years past that can put up 30 points with ease. We are not a team that relies solely on the offense to make something happen, and this is not a team that crumbles under pressure.

rest - http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_29465468/david-bruton-broncos-battle-tested-hungry-super-bowl-title-first-person?source=top_stories_bar

Denver Native (Carol)
02-02-2016, 06:58 PM
Talib: 'Take advantage of the situation'
Aqib Talib spoke to the media during the team media availability on Tuesday.
http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Talib-Take-advantage-of-the-situation/a77b5a73-83c7-4a12-81ba-f5d75989c215

VonDoom
02-02-2016, 07:05 PM
Broncos safety pens column on team's road to Super Bowl 50
By David Bruton Jr.
Broncos safety



rest - http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_29465468/david-bruton-broncos-battle-tested-hungry-super-bowl-title-first-person?source=top_stories_bar

This was my favorite quote from the article:


As a player, I not only admire our fight, I believe it should be idolized. With each game, we became closer. With our backs against the wall, we came out swinging.

When the newscasters and outsiders doubted us, we continued to prove them wrong. The games were not blowouts, and they may not have been pretty, but we became more of a team with each close game.

TXBRONC
02-02-2016, 07:50 PM
Admittedly, I'm not a big Cam fan but some of the things he's said in the last few days have really started to change my opinion of his persona. I still think he's a little bit too much of a "look at me everyone!" for my liking, but he's not dumb and he knows the impact he has which is commendable. Those pants he wore the other day have got to go.


I have always been meh about him. There have been players far worse. I completely agree with you about the pants they ugly.

TXBRONC
02-02-2016, 07:59 PM
This was my favorite quote from the article:

Kicking and screaming.

Denver Native (Carol)
02-02-2016, 08:06 PM
AURORA, Colo. — A must see for all Broncos fans. The patients and staff at Children’s Hospital Colorado are going all out to cheer on the Broncos every step of the way to Super Bowl 50.

Patient and cancer survivor Daniel Hailpern wrote a “Let It Go” parody fight song called “Broncos Go!” The hospital produced a spectacular music video and shared it on its Facebook page. You can watch it in its entirety above.

http://kdvr.com/2016/02/02/childrens-hospital-lip-sync-music-video-broncos-go/

Spiritguy
02-02-2016, 09:56 PM
Looks like everyone is ready to play! :D

https://twitter.com/MarcSesslerNFL/status/694597476897071104

Denver Native (Carol)
02-02-2016, 10:36 PM
Denver Broncos rookie safety Ryan Murphy and his brother were detained and questioned Tuesday as part of a prostitution sting in San Jose, California, according to multiple reports.

Murphy eventually was released and was not charged in the incident. The Broncos have sent Murphy home.

"Although practice squad safety Ryan Murphy was not cited by police, we decided it was best for the team if we continued our preparations for Super Bowl 50 without him," the team said in a statement. "Ryan is returning to Denver but his status as a practice squad player has not changed at this time."

rest - http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14702005/super-bowl-50-denver-broncos-safety-ryan-murphy-sent-home-being-detained-part-prostitution-sting

Nomad
02-02-2016, 10:42 PM
I hope the BRONCOS match the same confidence and swagger as the Panthers. I didn't mind Sharpe and a few others talking smack before SB XXXIII, and the BRONCOS backed it up. Seahawks did it when the BRONCOS met them in the Superbowl, and we know the result.

Denver Native (Carol)
02-02-2016, 10:48 PM
SANTA CLARA, Calif. -- Denver Broncos cornerback Aqib Talib started playing football when he was 5.

And, all along, he had a plan for his future.

"I got in trouble in fourth or fifth grade for writing a paper on what we wanted to be when we grew up," Talib said. "I put an NFL player. My teacher told me we're doing 'really serious jobs.' So, I said, 'Just 'cause you're not that talented and you're not going to the NFL doesn't mean I'm not going.' Got me a little in-school suspension for that and everything.

rest - http://espn.go.com/blog/denver-broncos/post/_/id/18617/aqib-talib-keeps-the-wit-and-wisdom-coming

Northman
02-03-2016, 07:05 AM
rest - http://espn.go.com/blog/denver-broncos/post/_/id/18617/aqib-talib-keeps-the-wit-and-wisdom-coming

What a shitty teacher.

VonDoom
02-03-2016, 11:14 AM
Nicki Jhabvala ‏@NickiJhabvala 5m5 minutes ago

Gary Kubiak on Ryan Murphy incident: "There's disappointment, but it's been dealt with and we've moved on."

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 2m2 minutes ago

Cam Newton is "a special talent, a rare talent," Kubiak says.

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 25s25 seconds ago

Darian Stewart and T.J. Ward are expected to practice "full time" today, Gary Kubiak said.

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 2m2 minutes ago

Kubiak: "The one constant [on the O-line] has been Matt [Paradis]." Describes group as "grinders," says best is still to come for young OLs.

Cameron Wolfe ‏@CameronWolfe 38s38 seconds ago

Gary Kubiak on Peyton Manning's arm strength: "I don't see that. Everything I see shows he can make every throw."

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 11s11 seconds ago

#Broncos Gary Kubiak said Manning is as healthy as he's been all year "he can do everything we ask him to do."

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 28s29 seconds ago

#Broncos Kubiak said Brock Osweiler "definitely did his part to get us here and did a hell of a job when he was in there."

VonDoom
02-03-2016, 11:28 AM
Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 2m2 minutes ago

#Broncos Manning "I Have had to adjust. You can Use baseball analogy. I don't throw 95 mph anymore but I can still get guys out."

Lindsay Jones ‏@bylindsayhjones 24s25 seconds ago

Peyton Manning said if he had an MVP vote, it would have gone to Cam Newton.

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 13s13 seconds ago

#Broncos Peyton Manning said players would like to win to "honor" owner Pat Bowlen.

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 38s38 seconds ago

Manning said isn't one defining moment this season. It's body of work of how team has won by grinding out so many wins in similar fashion

Nicki Jhabvala ‏@NickiJhabvala 5m5 minutes ago

Peyton Manning said he can tell early if he'll have a good connection with a WR. Happened with Sanders. "It does not happen w/ everybody."

Cameron Wolfe ‏@CameronWolfe 2m2 minutes ago

Peyton Manning said a doctor told him he will need a hip replacement later in life. His response: "Doctor I didn't need to know that now."

TXBRONC
02-03-2016, 11:37 AM
Who is Ryan Murphy? :confused:

Northman
02-03-2016, 11:39 AM
Who is Ryan Murphy? :confused:

Rookie.

VonDoom
02-03-2016, 11:46 AM
Cameron Wolfe ‏@CameronWolfe 5m5 minutes ago

Harris said that nobody works harder than DB coach Joe Woods. The DBs complain b/c they "have to do extra, watch extra film, do extra work."

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 4m4 minutes ago

#Broncos TJ Ward said he will ease into the week with ankle "I will be all right for the game"

Cameron Wolfe ‏@CameronWolfe 2m2 minutes ago

@darianstewart26: "The injury is feeling fine. Pain-free is the biggest thing. I'm happy where I'm at."

Cameron Wolfe ‏@CameronWolfe 1m1 minute ago

Stewart said he was riddled with injuries early in his career and he needed a fresh start away from the Rams.

Cameron Wolfe ‏@CameronWolfe 4m4 minutes ago

Stewart: "Cam Newton, get all 11 hats to him when he tries to run the ball. We know he’s like another running back."

VonDoom
02-03-2016, 12:00 PM
Cameron Wolfe ‏@CameronWolfe 6m6 minutes ago

@Grindin_59 on the generational talent of Cam Newton: “I think I’m one of the best players I ever saw too so I’m ready for that matchup.”

Cameron Wolfe ‏@CameronWolfe 51s52 seconds ago

Danny Trevathan on Cam Newton: "We love his play, but they haven’t played us yet."

Denver Native (Carol)
02-03-2016, 12:06 PM
During the AFC Championship Game, the Denver Broncos' defense hit New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady 23 times while only blitzing 16 percent of the total snaps. Not only did it show that Wade Phillips -- a blitzer by trade -- knows different ways to mess with an opposing quarterback in terms of pressure, but it also allowed Denver to play a variety of coverages, unsettle Brady by bluffing pressure, and still manage to get home with the defensive line.

Different game, different QB. With a matchup against the freakish talent of Cam Newton and the Carolina Panthers this Sunday in Super Bowl 50, what can Phillips and the Broncos do to reduce big plays, limit the production of tight end Greg Olsen and ultimately create some confusion for the leading MVP candidate?

It won't be easy, but there are a number of options.

Using the tapes from the AFC Championship Game, Carolina's Week 16 loss to the Atlanta Falcons and the NFC divisional matchup against the Seattle Seahawks, let's take a look at five ways the Broncos can find that ideal blend of rush and coverage. Here's how the Broncos can slow down Newton on the game's biggest stage.

rest - http://espn.go.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/14698240/how-wade-phillips-confuse-cam-newton-nfl

sorry - did not realize that you had to be an nfl insider to read the rest of the article

Denver Native (Carol)
02-03-2016, 12:13 PM
A few minutes ago, the NFL put up a stat showing that Peyton is 2nd for passing yards in post season games. However, all you hear is how he has only won the SB one time. From the stat that was posted, it definitely shows Peyton did what he had to do, and the losses are not his fault.

Northman
02-03-2016, 12:18 PM
A few minutes ago, the NFL put up a stat showing that Peyton is 2nd for passing yards in post season games. However, all you hear is how he has only won the SB one time. From the stat that was posted, it definitely shows Peyton did what he had to do, and the losses are not his fault.

I dont think he is totally at fault for the loss to Seattle, we just got crushed in every aspect of that game. But the INT to seal the deal for New Orleans could easily be on him although people will try to argue that Wayne ran the wrong route which not really believable to me. Overall i looked at Peyton's SB career no different than John's in that even if Peyton loses this SB it wont tarnish his legacy as a HOF QB but it wont be near as pretty as it is for guys like Montana or Brady. Unfortunately Denver overall has a ugly history when it comes to winning the SB but doesnt take away that they actually got there for me. Hopefully though this can be a story book ending for Manning and he can go out on top and at least would make him .500 for SB appearances. But he will have to play the best that he has all year to do that and that is the only question mark i see for him.

Spiritguy
02-03-2016, 12:37 PM
A little levity as we move thru this week. :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSL9J0Qbc8M

BroncoTech
02-03-2016, 01:06 PM
Superbowl Weather from KPIX 5 CBS:
67 degree high and sunny!

Slick
02-03-2016, 01:18 PM
VonDoom, we're going to need you to start embedding all of those tweets.

VonDoom
02-03-2016, 01:21 PM
VonDoom, we're going to need you to start embedding all of those tweets.

I figured it would take up too much space, visually. More effort by me, too, which I try to avoid.

Slick
02-03-2016, 01:23 PM
I figured it would take up too much space, visually. More effort by me, too, which I try to avoid.

I'm just busting your stones.

BroncoBuckeye73
02-03-2016, 01:30 PM
Deep breath its only Wednesday its only Wednesday ha ha cant wait till Sunday

VonDoom
02-03-2016, 01:36 PM
Deep breath its only Wednesday its only Wednesday ha ha cant wait till Sunday

My productivity level has rapidly been approaching zero. I hate all this waiting around.

VonDoom
02-03-2016, 01:37 PM
And now today's reminder that some things are more important than football - Antonio Smith's father passed away this morning:


SANTA CLARA, Calif. — Broncos defensive lineman Antonio Smith was awakened Wednesday with news that his 55-year-old father had died in Oklahoma.

"It's rough. I just found out this morning. It was my mom who called and told me. The call came in at about 6:30," Smith told me outside of the hotel where the Broncos are staying during preparation for Super Bowl 50.

Marty Christopher Williams, who has been incacerated in prison for more than two decades, died after complications from recent heart surgery.

Smith will stay with the team and intends to play Sunday against the Carolina Panthers.

Smith is a 34-year-old NFL veteran who joined the Broncos this season after being released by Oakland. He recorded 2 1/2 sacks for the league's top-ranked defense, but is also valued as a strong presence in the locker room and a mentor to younger teammates.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_29469993/father-antonio-smith-broncos-dl-dies-after-complications

Davii
02-03-2016, 01:41 PM
And now today's reminder that some things are more important than football - Antonio Smith's father passed away this morning:


http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_29469993/father-antonio-smith-broncos-dl-dies-after-complications

That really sucks, I feel badly for him. Hopefully the team and the game are what he needs to keep his head up and grind through such a difficult time.

NightTerror218
02-03-2016, 01:44 PM
That really sucks, I feel badly for him. Hopefully the team and the game are what he needs to keep his head up and grind through such a difficult time.

Gives him a reason to kiss ass. This one is papa smith

Davii
02-03-2016, 01:49 PM
Gives him a reason to kiss ass. This one is papa smith

In best Sly Stallone (John Spartan) voice: "That's *met* his match and kicked... *kicked* his ass... "

VonDoom
02-03-2016, 02:12 PM
Nice piece on ESPN about Pat Bowlen and what it would mean to win one for him. A lot of neat stories in this one - worth the read. I liked this one:


For Mark Schlereth, the story is about a practical joke. One day in the mid-1990s, Schlereth rolled through the weight room and noticed that Barney Chavous, the team's assistant offensive line and strength coach, had closed his office door. Schlereth, a lineman, assumed Chavous was taking a power nap before practice.

So Schlereth stuck seven or eight pennies in the crack between Chavous' door and the frame, locking Chavous in. Then Schlereth called Bowlen.

"I said, 'Hey, this is Mark downstairs,'" Schlereth said. "He said, 'Yeah, what can I do for you?' I said, 'Listen, I've got Barney pennied in his office. Call him and say you've got to see him immediately.' He said, 'I can't wait.'"

Bowlen called Chavous, who leapt up not wanting to keep the owner waiting, and then realized he was locked in. Chavous then started "dog-cussing us," Schlereth said.

"And Mr. Bowlen comes sprinting down just to be a part of the festivities, because he thinks it's the funniest thing ever," Schlereth said. "He couldn't wait to call, couldn't wait to hang up and then he's sprinting down these stairs to be part of the shenanigans. He liked to have fun."

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14691863/broncos-driven-win-super-bowl-ailing-owner-pat-bowlen-nfl

I'm telling you, if we win and Elway says, "This one's for Pat", I am going to lose it.

Denver Native (Carol)
02-03-2016, 02:27 PM
CBS4’s Jamie Leary is driving to California’s Bay area with photographer Mike Abeyta for Super Bowl 50. They left from Denver early Monday morning will be filing reports about the Denver Broncos along the way.

OREM, Utah (CBS4) – Never in a million years did 14-year old Talon Peterson dream his love for the Broncos would catch the attention of ESPN’s NFL Countdown. After all, he is a Utah-born Broncos fan and he knows how die hard some of the hometown fans are. That didn’t stop him from sending the network his best Peyton Manning impression.

“Check, check, check! Fifty-two’s the Mike! Sally, Sally! Omaha, Omaha! Ready, ready ready!” Is the battle cry Talon has been perfecting for nearly his entire life and boy-oh-boy did it pay off.

ESPN chose that very impression as a winner among many and is flying Talon to the Super Bowl with not one, but two tickets. Talon is bringing his mother.

rest of article, plus video
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2016/02/02/utah-teen-with-great-manning-impression-has-dream-come-true-trip-to-super-bowl/

Denver Native (Carol)
02-03-2016, 03:46 PM
Troy Renck Retweeted
MarkMaske ‏@MarkMaske 2h

Ron Rivera: "We've kind of crashed the party. We're new to the scene.... I'm not gonna have our guys change now."

VonDoom
02-03-2016, 04:23 PM
Never change, Romo:

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/694989631637487617

Nomad
02-03-2016, 04:25 PM
I liked Romonaski when he was a BRONCO.

Nomad
02-03-2016, 04:37 PM
Troy Renck Retweeted
MarkMaske ‏@MarkMaske 2h

Ron Rivera: "We've kind of crashed the party. We're new to the scene.... I'm not gonna have our guys change now."

The Panthers are making this experience of going to the Super Bowl fun, so I believe Rivera is going about it the right way.

Northman
02-03-2016, 04:38 PM
The Panthers are making this experience of going to the Super Bowl fun, so I believe Riveria is going about it the right way.

You think the Broncos arent having fun?

Nomad
02-03-2016, 04:42 PM
You think the Broncos arent having fun?

The quote was from Rivera. Why make try to insinuate I was saying something else? I'm sure the BRONCOS are having fun as well.

Northman
02-03-2016, 04:44 PM
The quote was from Rivera. Why make try to insinuate I was saying something else? I'm sure the BRONCOS are having fun as well.

You just gave off the impression to me that they seemed to be the only ones going about it as fun. I was just checking because your initial post was unclear.

NightTerror218
02-03-2016, 04:57 PM
The Panthers are making this experience of going to the Super Bowl fun, so I believe Rivera is going about it the right way.

Fun does not mean prepared for the game. Let it go to their heads. They can get caught up in everything and not be as focused.

Joel
02-03-2016, 05:43 PM
They are cocky and all the pressure is on them.
I actually wish people would stop talking about this; that Fox hadn't listed the TOP TWO threats to a Carolina win as "a bad game from Cam" and "reminding us they haven't been there before." The whole NATION telling them the only way they lose is if they don't take us seriously just ensures they take us VERY seriously. I'm sure Rivera and their other coaches are reminding them they blew huge second half leads THREE TIMES this year (once in the playoffs.)

Denver Native (Carol)
02-03-2016, 05:54 PM
from article:


The initial signs of Fox’s incompetence came in the 2012 Divisional game against the Baltimore Ravens. It was Peyton Manning’s first year in Denver and arguably the Broncos’ best team on paper during the PFM era. You know the story by now: Fox had 31 seconds, two timeouts and a kicker, Matt Prater, who could’ve hit a field goal from 55-plus yards with ease. Fox decided to kneel the ball, saying the shell-shocked Broncos were too stunned by Joe Flacco’s late-game heroics to try anything at the end of regulation. The freezing day got even colder, and the Broncos bowed out in double-OT to the eventual Super Bowl champion Ravens.

The next year, Manning came back on a mission, leading the Broncos all the way to Super Bowl XLVIII, while Fox picked out his favorite cloud shapes in the sky. The coach badly botched Super Bowl week preparation, practicing without noise (how’d that first snap go?) and then claiming afterward he had no idea the game could possibly be loud.

Players were also out of control under Fox’s watch. One member of the Broncos went right to a strip club upon his arrival in New York. Another was so inebriated that the Broncos staff literally couldn’t find him one morning. And finally, I witnessed another Broncos player with eyes redder than a fire truck fall asleep during early morning media availability, the booze wafting off him like a sophomore in college after a fraternity mixer. Fox had no control of his team and it showed during the embarrassing 43-8 beatdown at the hands of the Seahawks.

http://milehighsports.com/john-foxs-stunning-betrayals-help-set-up-an-epic-super-bowl-50/

Denver Native (Carol)
02-03-2016, 05:57 PM
from same article:


During the 2014 season in St. Louis, I watched an irate Manning chew out Fox for incredibly bad clock management at the end of the first half in a loss to the lowly Rams. Manning was incredulous that a veteran coach like Foxy couldn’t figure out when to call a timeout; a nine-year-old Madden player could’ve done a better job persevering those precious seconds.

Still, this all goes back to my gut impression of Fox: He’s simply not the sharpest tool in the shed. It’s like Brendan Dassey from Making A Murderer fame (or infamy), sometimes the not brightest people are just going to say and do the not brightest things; not all the blame can be placed on them.

But that all changed in the week after an infuriating playoff loss to the Colts in January of 2015 when I learned what Fox had pulled off. The conniving Fox had his next job essentially lined up before the Indianapolis game, and it benefitted him to lose that day.

Fox knew his coordinators, Adam Gase and Jack Del Rio, were as good as gone for other coaching gigs and that if he didn’t win the Super Bowl, he’d likely be canned by John Elway right after the season. So what did Fox do? He more or less accepted the Bears job before the game.

According to a high level Broncos source, Fox’s wife, Robin, called the team’s sponsorship folks the Friday before the game in an absolute panic. She needed to get her hands on a few thousand dollars worth of furniture trade (gift certificates) at a local establishment immediately. She knew her family was about to leave town.

http://milehighsports.com/john-foxs-stunning-betrayals-help-set-up-an-epic-super-bowl-50/
much more

Joel
02-03-2016, 06:01 PM
Cam is side stepping the race issue but he was the one who brought it up first. I was :laugh: my ass off at his dodge of the issue he essentially made into an issue in his press conference last week.
That's where I am. To be fair, some of his fans had ALREADY raised the issue, but he put a big spotlight on it after the NFCCG when he explicitly mentioned it to the press. Many people dislike hotdogs, especially hotdogs who haven't proved anything yet: People vocally disliked Namaths Guarantee and gave McMahon crap about his permanently attached shades and Super Bowl Shuffle. And when I say, "many people" I don't mean "only people racist against white people."

Cam's not Doug Wilson, Warren Moon or Jackie Robinson, because 1) those guys handled themselves with far more class and 2) Russell Wilson started the LAST TWO SBs, winning the first. And Wilson wasn't condemned as a shameless self-promoter: BECAUSE HE WASN'T ONE! I won't list all the dual-threat QBs of BOTH races who've played well and won SBs, because I don't have the bandwidth for a list that long.

Cam's not a trailblazer: He's simply benefiting from a trail others blazed FOR him with far more dignity and humility.

BroncoBuckeye73
02-03-2016, 06:07 PM
Well there is hope for Bears fans watching this Super bowl once they fire Fox they should get in ha ha ha.

Joel
02-03-2016, 06:13 PM
the Denver Broncos' defense hit New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady 23 times while only blitzing 16 percent of the total snaps.
That really is a mind-blowing stat. Either is surprising on its own, but the combination is unbelievable. The ONE thing I dislike about Wade is that he blitzes a lot, so I dread seeing lots of blitzes leaving receivers wide open for lots of huge gains when we play top QBs: The AFCCG was a refreshing surprise. Though I do agree with Wades distinction between "dogs" and "blitzes;" I wonder what percentage of our plays had >5 blitzers.


A few minutes ago, the NFL put up a stat showing that Peyton is 2nd for passing yards in post season games. However, all you hear is how he has only won the SB one time. From the stat that was posted, it definitely shows Peyton did what he had to do, and the losses are not his fault.
That's been the story, yeah; ESPN had another Insider piece (so I didn't get to read all of that one either) about Manning posting better career postseason stats than Brady, only to end up with a .500 playoff record for reasons that had NOTHING to do with him. With the Colts, he had good protection and run support but NO defense; with the Broncos, he's had good D but NO protection nor run support. Brady usually had plenty of ALL THREE; when he didn't: See 2013 and 2015 AFCCG.

Joel
02-03-2016, 06:24 PM
I'm telling you, if we win and Elway says, "This one's for Pat", I am going to lose it.
Oh, I've pretty much expected that for a while (presuming we win.)

SR
02-03-2016, 07:24 PM
A few minutes ago, the NFL put up a stat showing that Peyton is 2nd for passing yards in post season games. However, all you hear is how he has only won the SB one time. From the stat that was posted, it definitely shows Peyton did what he had to do, and the losses are not his fault.

Peyton, throughout his entire NFL career, has failed to show up in big games. Stats don't tell the story. It's a team game and I understand that but the times when teams have needed him to step up and shoulder the load the most is when he falters the most.

BroncoBuckeye73
02-03-2016, 07:30 PM
I was reading an article today on Cbs that said panthers corner gives away when he is man coverage as opposed to zone. When he is man he starts shaking and waving his hands around and when in his more comfortable zone he is motionless. I hope we also picked this up and unfortunately for him its a force of habit even if he trys not to do it he does it subconciously so he is bound to do it in the game.

BroncoBuckeye73
02-03-2016, 07:31 PM
Norman is the corner their best one should be fun.

pulse
02-03-2016, 07:42 PM
Peyton, throughout his entire NFL career, has failed to show up in big games. Stats don't tell the story. It's a team game and I understand that but the times when teams have needed him to step up and shoulder the load the most is when he falters the most.

This perception is exactly why you would consider him a failure. Did Aaron Rodgers fail this postseason? Yes. In fact, he failed every post season except for one. Should we also proclaim he doesn't show up in big games? Of course not. There were years Peyton did show up, played his balls off and still lost. The man could win his 200th game / 14th postseason game. Win or lose, he has won plenty of big games. Not every player is lucky to spend their career playing for a dynasty ala Bradshaw, Montana and Brady. Likewise, if not for Elway's last two years in the league, I'd hate to have heard anyone dare say he was a failure.

My point is that if one player is going to have to shoulder the load the most for a team to win, they're likely going to fail more often than not. Yes, it's a team game. TEAM. Marino should have won a championship. He carried the load and pulled off miracles in a lot of big games, yet never won a Super Bowl. It takes a lot of luck and a great team to win them, not to mention great coaching.

Joel
02-03-2016, 07:45 PM
Peyton, throughout his entire NFL career, has failed to show up in big games. Stats don't tell the story. It's a team game and I understand that but the times when teams have needed him to step up and shoulder the load the most is when he falters the most.
Peyton's showed up for most, if not all, big games of his career: The problem's been that he rarely brought anyone WITH him. But PEYTON has done all anyone can to beat the entire National Football League ON HIS OWN. You may recall one of my objections to signing him was that we couldn't give him a team; while we DID build him a good D and WR corps based on our strong existing infrastructure, our line's remained a disaster throughout, forcing Manning to play around that.

You may also recall from 2012 that I said everyone would rush to blame Manning if he couldn't singlehandedly get us to a SB; apparently everyone's going to rush to do that even though he DID manage to carry us to a SB, and helped our D get us to a SECOND one.

NightTerror218
02-03-2016, 07:55 PM
I am just thinking that Philips was able to get so much pressure without blitzing but also confusion Brady as well because that was what they expected. It caused Brady to not hit the quick passes that are his bread and butter and wait another second with ball.

Philips I hope can confuse Cam with his coverage and blitzing and changing it up. It is a beautiful thing really, all season it has been.

Carolina is like 16th in passing btw. Not a juggernaut passing but they are overall on offense when running game is taking off and working off that.

They are also middle of the pack in passing defense but they create so many turnovers.

Carolina is beatable if broncos are mistake free.

VonDoom
02-03-2016, 09:15 PM
Cameron Wolfe ‏@CameronWolfe 7m7 minutes ago

According to @PFWAwriters pool reporter Peter King, the #Broncos practiced for 1 hour and 35 minutes Wednesday and did so with noise.

Nicki Jhabvala ‏@NickiJhabvala 34m34 minutes ago

Per @SI_PeterKing's Broncos pool report, cornerback Aqib Talib picked off three passes and ran one back in practice today.

Lindsay Jones ‏@bylindsayhjones 2h2 hours ago

All of the Broncos participated in practice today, with TJ Ward, Darian Stewart and G Louis Vasquez limited. Expect them all to play Sunday.

BronColt
02-03-2016, 09:55 PM
Peyton, throughout his entire NFL career, has failed to show up in big games. Stats don't tell the story. It's a team game and I understand that but the times when teams have needed him to step up and shoulder the load the most is when he falters the most.

This hasn't been mentioned anywhere, but consider this:

Rob Rivera, last time he faced Peyton Manning in a BIG game? Bears vs Colts...in the Suoer Bowl. Rivera was the D coordinator. Peyton Manning...Super Bowl MVP.

There were a few good line backers on that Bears D too, Brian Urlacher and Lance Briggs, also Charles Tillman who obviously is not playing.

8422

Peyton Manning lit up Ron Rivera's defense when they met in Super Bowl

http://espn.go.com/blog/carolina-panthers/post/_/id/19026/peyton-manning-lit-ron-riveras-defense-up-the-last-time-they-met-in-a-super-bowl

The two teams last played during the 2012 season when the Broncos went to Bank of America Stadium and leveled a 36-14 victory on Ron Rivera's team.

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2612362-panthers-vs-broncos-historic-head-to-head-record-and-super-bowl-50-pick

The Panthers and Broncos have four regular-season games in their history, and the Broncos hold a 3-1 advantage in the series. The Broncos won both games played in Denver, while the two teams have split a pair of games in Carolina.

The two teams last played during the 2012 season when the Broncos went to Bank of America Stadium and leveled a 36-14 victory on Ron Rivera's team.

Cam Newton and Peyton Manning were the two quarterbacks in that game, but Newton has become a much better and more consistent quarterback since then. Manning was in the midst of a brilliant first season in Denver, in which he completed 68.6 percent of his passes, threw for 4,659 yards and 37 touchdowns.

Newton was not the accomplished passer that he has become, but he still completed 21 of 36 passes for 241 yards with two TDs and two interceptions. Interestingly, the Broncos limited Newton to seven rushing yards on four carries.

The key to the outcome in that game was an overwhelming Denver pass rush. The Broncos defense sacked Newton seven times in that game as former Denver DT Kevin Vickerson led the way with 2.0 sacks. Vickerson has not played in the NFL since 2014.

While much has changed between the two teams since that game, a strong Denver pass rush may be the key to the Broncos earning another win in this game.

Joel
02-03-2016, 09:57 PM
I am just thinking that Philips was able to get so much pressure without blitzing but also confusion Brady as well because that was what they expected. It caused Brady to not hit the quick passes that are his bread and butter and wait another second with ball.

Philips I hope can confuse Cam with his coverage and blitzing and changing it up. It is a beautiful thing really, all season it has been.

Carolina is like 16th in passing btw. Not a juggernaut passing but they are overall on offense when running game is taking off and working off that.

They are also middle of the pack in passing defense but they create so many turnovers.

Carolina is beatable if broncos are mistake free.
Where'd you get the highlighted ranking? Pro Football Reference shows Carolina 24th in passing yards, but you can't go by that since winning teams tend to kill clock late and losing ones tend to throw more Hail Maries: Look at net AVERAGE PER PLAY and Carolinas passing is 10th overall, and its D BEST IN THE NFL after us (we obviously can't play ourselves, so this is LITERALLY the toughest pass D we could possibly face; KC and Cincy were #4 and #5, NE #8.)

Competition matters, too, and ours was MUCH tougher, but on a per play basis Carolinas offense is 10th in rushing AND net passing, its D 7th and 2nd (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/car/2015.htm).

Joel
02-03-2016, 10:04 PM
This hasn't been mentioned anywhere, but consider this:

Rob Rivera, last time he faced Peyton Manning in a BIG game? Bears vs Colts...in the Suoer Bowl. Rivera was the D coordinator. Peyton Manning...Super Bowl MVP.

There were a few good line backers on that Bears D too, Brian Urlacher and Lance Briggs, also Charles Tillman who obviously is not playing.

8422

Peyton Manning lit up Ron Rivera's defense when they met in Super Bowl

http://espn.go.com/blog/carolina-panthers/post/_/id/19026/peyton-manning-lit-ron-riveras-defense-up-the-last-time-they-met-in-a-super-bowl

The two teams last played during the 2012 season when the Broncos went to Bank of America Stadium and leveled a 36-14 victory on Ron Rivera's team.

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2612362-panthers-vs-broncos-historic-head-to-head-record-and-super-bowl-50-pick

Peyton Manning...also the QB in that game too.
This isn't 2006 SB MVP Manning, and the Panthers are FAR better than their 7-9 2012 team. Also, it's not like Manning torched the #1 D in '06; Chicagos offense was just awful in a game where the teams combined for SEVEN turnovers. The only similarity between SB XLI and SB 50 is that they're both #1 X v. #1 O—but this time #1 O brought a pretty good X of its own, not the drunk prom dates Indy fielded the whole time Manning was there.

spikerman
02-03-2016, 10:13 PM
This isn't 2006 SB MVP Manning, and the Panthers are FAR better than their 7-9 2012 team. Also, it's not like Manning torched the #1 D in '06; Chicagos offense was just awful in a game where the teams combined for SEVEN turnovers. The only similarity between SB XLI and SB 50 is that they're both #1 X v. #1 O—but this time #1 O brought a pretty good X of its own, not the drunk prom dates Indy fielded the whole time Manning was there.
So you're picking the Panthers?

Denver Native (Carol)
02-03-2016, 10:51 PM
Broncos back to Super Bowl practice
The Broncos were back on the practice field on Wednesday, as they continue to prepare for the Carolina Panthers and Super Bowl 50.
http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Broncos_back_to_Super_Bowl_practice/6ea233be-8e64-42d3-99cd-f435cb093d88

Manning, Taylor explain suit surprise
After helping Peyton Manning rehab from his foot injury, practice squad wide receiver Jordan Taylor explains how Manning returned the favor with a surprise.
http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Manning_Taylor_explain_suit_surprise/6d73eb83-25eb-4fe6-80ef-39e2aed68f1b

Wolfe: 'We have one more game to win'
Derek Wolfe spoke to the press during media availability Wednesday.
http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Wolfe_We_have_one_more_game_to_win/d774ae3c-ea1b-4110-bfc9-06d99e5ec6d7

Trevathan: 'It's going to be great challenge'
Danny Trevathan spoke to the press during media availability on Wednesday.
http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Trevathan_Its_going_to_be_great_challenge/4e7b4070-a315-44c6-88d3-98d85ad89ebd

Walker: 'Wade will put us in the best position'
Vance Walker spoke to the press during media availability on Wednesday.
http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Walker_Wade_will_put_us_in_the_best_position/2e8ec549-62d9-4162-a1da-8f87a8c2f78b

Harris: 'The focus is on another level'
Broncos players reflect on the Super Bowl forty-eight and how things have changed since then.
http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Harris_The_focus_is_on_another_level/a4440bc4-074b-4804-b81a-120278a18f16

Fowler: 'It's been a great journey'
Bennie Fowler spoke to the press during media availability Wednesday.
http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Fowler_Its_been_a_great_journey/2c2d9cda-d46b-4cd9-9d21-2175d6756522

Green: 'We are excited to get out there and play'
Virgil Green spoke to the press during media availability on Wednesday.
http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Green_We_are_excited_to_get_out_there_and_play/d06c0b63-4220-4663-ac84-c333b8953f82

chazoe60
02-03-2016, 11:06 PM
This hasn't been mentioned anywhere, but consider this:

Rob Rivera, last time he faced Peyton Manning in a BIG game? Bears vs Colts...in the Suoer Bowl. Rivera was the D coordinator. Peyton Manning...Super Bowl MVP.

There were a few good line backers on that Bears D too, Brian Urlacher and Lance Briggs, also Charles Tillman who obviously is not playing.

8422

Peyton Manning lit up Ron Rivera's defense when they met in Super Bowl

http://espn.go.com/blog/carolina-panthers/post/_/id/19026/peyton-manning-lit-ron-riveras-defense-up-the-last-time-they-met-in-a-super-bowl

The two teams last played during the 2012 season when the Broncos went to Bank of America Stadium and leveled a 36-14 victory on Ron Rivera's team.

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2612362-panthers-vs-broncos-historic-head-to-head-record-and-super-bowl-50-pick

The Panthers and Broncos have four regular-season games in their history, and the Broncos hold a 3-1 advantage in the series. The Broncos won both games played in Denver, while the two teams have split a pair of games in Carolina.

The two teams last played during the 2012 season when the Broncos went to Bank of America Stadium and leveled a 36-14 victory on Ron Rivera's team.

Cam Newton and Peyton Manning were the two quarterbacks in that game, but Newton has become a much better and more consistent quarterback since then. Manning was in the midst of a brilliant first season in Denver, in which he completed 68.6 percent of his passes, threw for 4,659 yards and 37 touchdowns.

Newton was not the accomplished passer that he has become, but he still completed 21 of 36 passes for 241 yards with two TDs and two interceptions. Interestingly, the Broncos limited Newton to seven rushing yards on four carries.

The key to the outcome in that game was an overwhelming Denver pass rush. The Broncos defense sacked Newton seven times in that game as former Denver DT Kevin Vickerson led the way with 2.0 sacks. Vickerson has not played in the NFL since 2014.

While much has changed between the two teams since that game, a strong Denver pass rush may be the key to the Broncos earning another win in this game.

It was many moons ago but I believe the last time we shut a team out it was against the Panthers in 98. I don't think we've had a shut out since then. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

Nomad
02-03-2016, 11:11 PM
It was many moons ago but I believe the last time we shut a team out it was against the Panthers in 98. I don't think we've had a shut out since then. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

2005.... vs the Jets ....27-0 .....Plummer was the man

Google is your friend :D

chazoe60
02-03-2016, 11:20 PM
2005.... vs the Jets ....27-0 .....Plummer was the man

Google is your friend :D

Okay thanks. Why use Google when my friends at BF will do it for me?

Nomad
02-03-2016, 11:21 PM
Okay thanks. Why use Google when my friends at BF will do it for me?

:lol:

Nomad
02-03-2016, 11:30 PM
I did not know Jared Allen played for the Panthers.

chazoe60
02-03-2016, 11:32 PM
I did not know Jared Allen played for the Panthers.

Google is your friend. ;)

Nomad
02-03-2016, 11:34 PM
Google is your friend. ;)

That's my line :D

So it's the Ware vs Allen Bowl.

BroncoBuckeye73
02-03-2016, 11:42 PM
I was going to say that jets game I was at it.

BroncoBuckeye73
02-03-2016, 11:50 PM
Jared Allen broke his foot against the Seahawks I dont know how effective he will be. And that goes for their linebacker Davis who broke his arm and is playing with a plate and 12 screws in it.

Canmore
02-04-2016, 12:15 AM
Jared Allen broke his foot against the Seahawks I dont know how effective he will be. And that goes for their linebacker Davis who broke his arm and is playing with a plate and 12 screws in it.

I heard it was eleven or twelve...guess the doctor wasn't sure.

BronColt
02-04-2016, 02:03 AM
Jared Allen broke his foot against the Seahawks I dont know how effective he will be. And that goes for their linebacker Davis who broke his arm and is playing with a plate and 12 screws in it.

This is probably one of the biggest underlying stories going into the Super Bowl. It's getting little attention because Thomas has done a masterful job of playing it off and SAYING he's gonna play. Just like Roethlisberger couldn't brush his teeth before that game...or was that Harris Jr? Either way, plates and screws ain't gonna matter; the only thing that could help him would be a straight injection of adamantium!

I broke my arm just last year, right at the elbow. I could still move around and grab stuff, but anything that required pressure or grip was absolutely useless. I didn't get that back for a few MONTHS, much less 2 weeks!

His playing is purely to keep his defense motivated and he's trying not to be a distraction. Now let's be real. Who exactly is he going to be tackling? It's obvious his legs won't be in question, but what happens when he's gotta tackle Anderson/Hillman/Daniels/Sanders/Thomas? He can't knock everyone down with his shoulder. He's gonna have to reach out and touch someone and that's going to include grabbing, holding AND falling on that arm. He will start the game but I highly doubt he FINISHES that game in any effective manner whatsoever.

As for Jared Allen, remember he was in the conversation days before we brought on Demarcus Ware. He was our plan B, Ware was an unexpected plan A+++. Jared is great player, I don't know how much a broken pinky toe can affect him; although it kept him out of a must win playoff game. It surely will affect his reaction time off the snap and his reaction time in turning, cutting and re positioning his body to make a tackle or get past an O lineman. I can't imagine he'll be at 100% for the same reasons listed above. The bone was BROKEN, not fractured or strained or bruised. It was broke and there is no way it CANT be re injured very easily; especially with the intensity of this game and way our defense has been hitting lately.

Those are the defensive X factors that Peyton Manning will look to exploit. That's what Peytons good at and he will challenge those two players to exploit that weakness. Every play going towards Thomas will be AWAY from Kuechly, and running backs will be stomping towards Jared on more plays than not. Whatch those feet Jared!

Watch for that in this game and see how "injured" those 2 guys really are.

Joel
02-04-2016, 02:12 AM
So you're picking the Panthers?
I expect them to win, but it just feels wrong to say I'm "picking" someone to beat my own team, so I won't. The Broncos surprised me against NE* and Cincy; hopefully they do it again. Games aren't won or lost on paper, and we should be glad of that. I can't help feeling Cam's right though: That if both teams play their best, Carolina wins, which leaves me hoping we play our best but they don't. Maybe I'm just blinded by their record against a far weaker schedule.

Canmore
02-04-2016, 02:16 AM
I expect them to win, but it just feels wrong to say I'm "picking" someone to beat my own team, so I won't. The Broncos surprised me against NE* and Cincy; hopefully they do it again. Games aren't won or lost on paper, and we should be glad of that. I can't help feeling Cam's right though: That if both teams play their best, Carolina wins, which leaves me hoping we play our best but they don't. Maybe I'm just blinded by their record against a far weaker schedule.

This is what I see. We will be fine.

Joel
02-04-2016, 02:20 AM
It's obvious [Davis'] legs won't be in question, but what happens when he's gotta tackle Anderson/Hillman/Daniels/Sanders/Thomas? He can't knock everyone down with his shoulder.
He can TOTALLY knock down Hillman with his shoulder. That's one of many reasons I hope Kubiak's just saved injury-prone CJ to FINALLY start him again in the SB. Hillman's been getting the lions share of carries for a while, but CJ nearly ALWAYS finishes with a LOT more yards; what's that tell you...?


Jared is great player, I don't know how much a broken pinky toe can affect him; although it kept him out of a must win playoff game.
Yeah, and it didn't seem to make a helluvalotta difference: 49-15, IIRC? I always say I never wanna see anyone hurt (with karmic exceptions for guys who not only want to see but CAUSE it) or win because of injuries, but doubt that will be an issue this week. I just hope WE stay healthy.

Joel
02-04-2016, 02:22 AM
This is what I see. We will be fine.
I keep meaning to do a power rating to find out HOW good, but it takes a lot of time to punch in all the victory margins, especially if normalizing for homefield.

chazoe60
02-04-2016, 06:59 AM
I expect them to win, but it just feels wrong to say I'm "picking" someone to beat my own team, so I won't. .

The Texans aren't in the SB

Joel
02-04-2016, 07:01 AM
The Texans aren't in the SB
I'm aware: They're my second choice, not first.

SR
02-04-2016, 07:11 AM
So you're picking the Panthers?

Any surprise?

VonDoom
02-04-2016, 09:17 AM
Here's a piece from the MMQB, mostly about Malik Jackson looking for a big payday if he stars in the Super Bowl (which we've discussed here before):


In my casual chats with offensive coaches around the NFL this year, Jackson’s name has come up several times, often unprovoked. When teams game-plan for the Broncos, they talk about stopping defensive tackle No. 97 almost as much as they do Miller and Ware. “We really need Malik in order to have the type of defense we have right now,” Von Miller said at the Broncos’ media session on Wednesday.

Not surprisingly, the Panthers have taken notice.

“He’s a good player,” Pro Bowl center Ryan Kalil said. “He’s a big guy. He’s physical. They’re all great pass rushers. I think the biggest thing, especially him, they do a good job getting off blocks.”

From left guard Andrew Norwell, who will be the one primarily responsible for combatting Jackson: “He’s fundamentally sound, he plays low. All around, he’s a good player.”

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/02/04/nfl-super-bowl-50-malik-jackson-denver-broncos-carolina-panthers

Slick
02-04-2016, 10:05 AM
Malik won't even be missed. He can be easily replaced. /

VonDoom
02-04-2016, 10:15 AM
Here's a (long) article by Bill Barnwell previewing the game. It's kind of depressing if you make it through the whole thing. He doesn't like the way we match up with the Panthers:


The truth is that the Broncos aren't an especially great fit for this Panthers offense. You'd want a defense who can stand up in short-yardage situations, and the Broncos are the second worst short-yardage run defense in the league, ahead of only Carolina. (Remember that when the camera pans over to Riverboat Ron before a fourth-and-short.) If you wanted to construct a defense that was designed to stop Carolina, you'd want penetrating interior linemen who could blow up plays in the backfield, rangy inside linebackers who could run with Newton and tight end Greg Olsen, and safeties who weren't going to get burned deep.

That isn't Denver.


Nobody doubts that the Carolina offense is good, but advanced metrics suggest that it isn't really the best attack in football. Football Outsiders pegs the Panthers as the league's eighth-best offensive attack through the end of the regular season by defense-adjusted value over average (DVOA). ESPN's Football Power Index has the Panthers slightly higher at sixth, even including their impressive run in the postseason.

In some cases, this would be splitting hairs. The problem is that the Denver defense looks better than its raw numbers might indicate. The Broncos were fourth in the league in points allowed, but advanced metrics find them to be irresistible. DVOA has Denver as comfortably the league's best defense, with the Panthers closer to the sixth-ranked Chiefs than their top-ranked Super Bowl opposition. FPI tells an even stronger story; the Broncos are first and the Panthers are second, but Sean McDermott's group is closer to the Patriots in 13th than they are to Denver. What seems like the best offense against a pretty good defense is actually the best defense against a pretty good offense.


Trying to poke holes in the Panthers' excellent defense isn't easy because, again, sadly for Broncos fans, they don't match up with Denver's strengths. Take the Panthers' ugly performance in short-yardage run defense. I mentioned early that Carolina has posted the league's worst success rate against short-yardage runs, with 87 percent of opponents succeeding.

If you think the Broncos have a shot, blowing the Panthers away in short-yardage situations would be a good way for them to get there. As is often the case with many undersized zone-blocking lines, though, Denver isn't especially effective trying to run the ball in short yardage, as its 61 percent success rate in power situations on offense ranks just 23rd in the league. Denver is one of the better teams in the league at manufacturing big plays with its ground game, but Kuechly & Co. have wiped away the ability to grab those huge chunks of yardage. Carolina has allowed only 36 runs of 10 yards or more this year, the fifth-lowest figure in the league.


The path to Denver scoring 20-plus points on offense is really, really difficult to trace. It involves some element that's impossible to predict, like a return touchdown against the Carolina offense or one on special teams. A kick or punt return touchdown might very well be a possibility, given that the Panthers rated well below average in both categories. The Panthers had the league's fifth-worst kick coverage and its eighth-worst punt coverage. Denver was roughly close to average on both types of returns, though, so it's hardly a significant advantage for Broncos special teams coach Joe DeCamillis to exploit.

Instead, the Denver offense is going to have to effectively execute something that the Panthers are very good at stopping. The Broncos are going to have to run the ball well on first down against the league's best first-and-10 run defense, or steadily complete screens and short passes against a group that has posted the fourth-best QBR in the league against throws within five yards of the line of scrimmage. Maybe they try to get a throw or two open downfield early to scare Carolina safeties Kurt Coleman and Roman Harper off of the line of scrimmage and create running lanes for C.J. Anderson, who simply has to get the bulk of the touches ahead of Ronnie Hillman. Given Manning's utter lack of arm strength in 2016, though, that's the easiest way for Denver to dial up a sequel to the Palmer performance of the NFC Championship Game. Even as the underdogs, it might be a better path for them to take a lower-variance approach and try to win a 13-10 game than a 24-21 contest. And even that may be asking a lot of Denver's offense.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14705931/denver-best-defense-football-facing-attack-yet-face-nfl

EastCoastBronco
02-04-2016, 10:26 AM
Hey Von Doom...
Did this joker write one last week about how we didn't match up well with New England?
If he did you should post that.
It would be fun to read...;-)

VonDoom
02-04-2016, 10:42 AM
Hey Von Doom...
Did this joker write one last week about how we didn't match up well with New England?
If he did you should post that.
It would be fun to read...;-)

Honestly, I don't know if he made a prediction on that game. He does talk in this article about how our strengths on defense match up well against the Patriots (thought that's easy to say now, right?) and how the opposite is true this week. I respect Barnwell greatly but I'm hoping all his research amounts to nothing by Sunday night.

Denver Native (Carol)
02-04-2016, 11:16 AM
Thursday press conference:

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 2m

#Broncos' Kubiak said playing time of veteran linemen was by design to keep Mathis, Vasquez and Harris healthy and fresh. It has paid off

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 5m

#broncos Kubiak said having a lot of young players contribute has brought team together. Can be any player any week, creating binding glue

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 9m

#Broncos Kubiak said "9 great years of playing got in the way of coaching. I wanted to coach right after college."

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 11m

#Broncos Kubiak "Peyton took the team over the last month. I feel good where he's at right now"

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 12m

#Broncos Kubiak said Thursday is always big work day for team. Nothing will change today
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Denver Native (Carol)
02-04-2016, 11:36 AM
Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck

#broncos Manning said he's hoping Cal's Goff breaks his #NFL rookie INT record. "Eli would have done it but you need to play 16 games."

Snoop to Manning "Can I get a 50 percent discount on Papa John's when I am in Colorado?"
Said Manning "Certainly"

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck

#broncos Manning said grateful for support of John Fox, especially in 2012. "The year before I had more neck surgeries than snaps"

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck

#Broncos manning said he's heard from all his nfl, college and high school coaches this week "I do think about coaches in weeks like this"

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 11m

Manning: "I was grateful to play for [John Fox], I've enjoyed playing for Coach Kubiak." Doesn't want to get into comparing coaches.