Red McCombs trying to lure Mark Davis, Raiders to San Antonio

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Former Minnesota Vikings owner Red McCombs said in a radio interview that San Antonio is ready if the Oakland Raiders decide to move to the city and that he is even willing to invest in the team if needed.

McCombs, an 88-year-old billionaire, said in a radio interview with ESPN San Antonio on Wednesday that he talked to Raiders owner Mark Davis on Tuesday after the team withdrew its application to relocate to Los Angeles.

According to Bleacher Report, Davis owns land in the San Antonio area where he could build a stadium.

McCombs said San Antonio has "several locations that would work" to build a stadium and that he has 12 corporate sponsors lined up with "serious commitments." Now he has to convince Davis that moving his team to Texas is the right move for the franchise.

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[Davii]

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I could definitely see this happening. I like San Antonio, so it would be a shame for them it's the Raiders, but they could support a team.

[Dapper Dan]

Does San Antonio have enough criminals?

[Nomad]

The fans of San Antonio wouldn't have to change color schemes......black and silver for Spurs and Raiders. It's no big deal if the Raiders move, as long as, they stay in the AFC West.

[MNPatsFan]

Seems like a match made in heaven given that Red McCombs, Mark Davis and the Raiders are all snake oil salesmen and/or scumbags.

[olathebroncofan]

The fans of San Antonio wouldn't have to change color schemes......black and silver for Spurs and Raiders. It's no big deal if the Raiders move, as long as, they stay in the AFC West.

That's would be cool...an all silver and black sports scene. Now if only the Spurs had a Black Hole section when they played...that would be awesome. I wonder if they do move, where ever that may be, would they have a black hole in that stadium. It's not the same if they dont.

[BroncoJoe]

As the theory goes, Davis has secured a parcel of land about halfway in between Austin and San Antonio -- about 80 miles apart -- where a new stadium could potentially be located, creating leverage in his dealings with Oakland.

Davis has plenty of reasons to drop his team right between San Antonio and Austin. The two cities would offer his team over 2.3 million football-hungry sports fans. His players would enjoy a state without income taxes.

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/oakland-raiders-texas-san-antonio-austin-relocation-stadium-alamodome-011316

[Slick]

Red used to own the Spurs if I remember correctly.

[Dapper Dan]

Red used to own the Spurs if I remember correctly.

Wiki wiki...

Billy Joe McCombs, known as Red McCombs (born October 19, 1927),[2] is the billionaire founder of the Red McCombs Automotive Group in San Antonio, Texas, a co-founder of Clear Channel Communications, chairman of Constellis Group, a former owner of the San Antonio Spurs, Denver Nuggets, and the Minnesota Vikings, and the namesake of the McCombs School of Business at the University of Texas at Austin.

[chazoe60]

Seems like a match made in heaven given that Red McCombs, Mark Davis and the Raiders are all snake oil salesmen and/or scumbags.

That's hysterical coming from a Pats fan.

[OrangeHoof]

Please, no. Cowboy fans AND Raider fans??? It would be like that shootout at Twin Peaks.

[BroncoJoe]

Please, no. Cowboy fans AND Raider fans??? It would be like that shootout at Twin Peaks.

But you'd have a chance to see the Broncos in person once a year!

I like it.

[Dapper Dan]

But you'd have a chance to see the Broncos in person once a year!

I like it.

Once in a lifetime, after he gets stabbed to death.

[CoachChaz]

If San Antonio fans turn out to be anything like Cowboys or Texans fans, we wont have to worry. They wont have the football acumen to know that being a Raiders fan means you have to be a thug.

[OrangeHoof]

Please, no. Cowboy fans AND Raider fans??? It would be like that shootout at Twin Peaks.

But you'd have a chance to see the Broncos in person once a year!

I like it.

And not being able to see the Broncos 4-5 times a year on local TV because I'll be in the Raiders' home market so I'll either get the Raiders game instead of the Broncos or be blacked out.

F that.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Oakland Raiders owner Mark Davis missed out on Los Angeles, but that doesn't mean he'll return his team to Oakland.

They're playing without a lease in 2016 -- and the city of San Antonio could provide a soft landing for the Silver and Black.

Via Bleacher Report's Jason Cole:

As the theory goes, Davis has secured a parcel of land about halfway in between Austin and San Antonio -- about 80 miles apart -- where a new stadium could potentially be located, creating leverage in his dealings with Oakland.

rest - http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/oakland-raiders-texas-san-antonio-austin-relocation-stadium-alamodome-011316

[MNPatsFan]

That's hysterical coming from a Pats fan.Not sure what you are saying?:confused:

Bob Kraft is light years ahead of Red McCombs and Mark Davis when it comes to owning a sports team. Red McCombs was a disaster as the owner of the Vikings. His experience as a used car salesman showed in his actions as owner. He bought the team at a major discount because of the stadium situation and then tried to extort the public to build him a stadium, which would result in the value of the Vikings substantially increasing without his investing much, if any, of his own money. Mark Davis is apparently trying to do something similar now. Kraft, on the other hand, entirely privately financed the construction of Gillette Stadium. Although he/the team received something like 70-80 million from the state for infrastructure upgrades, the money was only a loan that had to be repaid. Gillette is one of the top stadiums in the NFL and the Krafts/Patriots were visionary in its construction, financing and development right around the stadium.

Moreover, under Kraft's ownership, the Patriots have been transformed from a laughing stock and one of the worst, least valuable teams teams in the NFL to one of the best, most valuable teams in the NFL. Neither McCombs nor Mark Davis have done that with any of the teams they own(ed).

[OrangeHoof]

As long as Kraft has cozy relationships with Goodell and CBS, he's guaranteed a home playoff game every season to maximize profits and give CBS' in-stadium sports bar an extra payday. One washes the other.

[Davii]

Not sure what you are saying?:confused:

Bob Kraft is light years ahead of Red McCombs and Mark Davis when it comes to owning a sports team. Red McCombs was a disaster as the owner of the Vikings. His experience as a used car salesman showed in his actions as owner. He bought the team at a major discount because of the stadium situation and then tried to extort the public to build him a stadium, which would result in the value of the Vikings substantially increasing without his investing much, if any, of his own money. Mark Davis is apparently trying to do something similar now. Kraft, on the other hand, entirely privately financed the construction of Gillette Stadium. Although he/the team received something like 70-80 million from the state for infrastructure upgrades, the money was only a loan that had to be repaid. Gillette is one of the top stadiums in the NFL and the Krafts/Patriots were visionary in its construction, financing and development right around the stadium.

Moreover, under Kraft's ownership, the Patriots have been transformed from a laughing stock and one of the worst, least valuable teams teams in the NFL to one of the best, most valuable teams in the NFL. Neither McCombs nor Mark Davis have done that with any of the teams they own(ed).

I think he was referencing the snake oil salesman thing, the cheating ways of your garbage franchise, etc.

[Slick]

rest - http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/oakland-raiders-texas-san-antonio-austin-relocation-stadium-alamodome-011316


I haven't made that drive up I-35 in a long, long time but putting a stadium in the middle of Austin and San Antonio seems like a bad idea. San Antonio is the larger of the two cities, build the stadium in town. Use the Alamodome while they do it.

[OrangeHoof]

http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/cbsmedia/video/thumbnails/rai_1029342_640x360.jpg

Would you want this in YOUR town?

[OrangeHoof]

Clogging I-35 with a football stadium would impede the NAFTA truckers and all the illegals streaming north from the border.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I think he was referencing the snake oil salesman thing, the cheating ways of your garbage franchise, etc.

Nice breakdown Davii :laugh:

[Joel]

I haven't made that drive up I-35 in a long, long time but putting a stadium in the middle of Austin and San Antonio seems like a bad idea. San Antonio is the larger of the two cities, build the stadium in town. Use the Alamodome while they do it.
Yeah, but San Antonio fans are more likely to drive 40 miles to see their namesake team than Austin fans are to drive 80 miles to see San Antonios team. Not to mention all the folks in San Marcos, New Braufels, Bastrop etc. who'll now have the stadium practically at their doorsteps. It's actually a pretty smart idea, IMHO.

The question's always been when an(d which) NFL team comes to San Antonio than if. Residents have been screaming one at least since the NFL gave them a WLaugh team in the late '80s (much as the Memphis precursor to the Titans,) so it's not just McCombs. But it is ALSO McCombs, who tried to talk the other Vikings owners into moving there about the same time as the San Antonio Rough Riders were gamboling across the US and Europe.

Demographically, it doesn't make sense for NY and FL to have three teams while much more populous TX has just TWO, particularly given how obsessed Texas is with football all the way down to the Pop Warner level. I mean, yeah, it's definitely displaced baseball as the national passtime, but football's not even the #1 sport in TX: It's a religion. For nearly 30 million people, and they're not evenly distributed: Roughly half live in or between Houston, Dallas and San Antonio.

That Fox article citing the San Antonio and Austin City Limits 2½ million residents only tells literally half the story: METRO San Antone has that much ALONE, and adding metro Austin plus all points produces a total on par with Dallas and Houston. Throwing in the NFLs attempts at hispanic outreach and South and West Texas identifying more with San Antonio than either Houston or Dallas just makes the prospect of an NFL team that much more inevitable.

The reality is that Arizonas current and San Antonios imminent teams are just symptoms of a longstanding national tectonic shift: The Midwest was Americas heartland for most of two centuries, but its continuing half-century decline remains the West and Souths gain, and TX is the Ground Zero where South meets West.

A San Antonio team's long made increasing sense, but TX gaining an eye-popping FOUR House seats in the last reapportionment highlights that. Hell, the state's singlehandedly maintaining an entire major partys NATIONAL relevance (absent TX, the US would have precisely 500 electoral votes, so a president would only need 251, and the consensus across the political spectrum is that Democrats have ~242 in the bag in ANY election, WHOEVER runs.)

The Raiders wouldn't exactly be my first choice, and not just because a division with Denver, KC and San Antonio is only marginally "West" in modern America, even if the Bolts stay in CA. I've long thought the Jags made more sense, not least because they'd give the Texans an in-state rivalry and their Jacksonville stadium's such a ghost town they play "home" games in London often as not, and only revenue-sharing keeps them solvent. But it's gonna be SOMEONE, and SOON.