Mo's official Owen Daniels appreciation thread

[Timmy!]

Discuss.

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[BroncoWave]

He is our best tight end, and is rightfully getting the most snaps.

[Edmonton Bronco Fan]

He was absolutely on fire last night. Best he's looked as a Bronco.

Still want to see Virgil Greene more involved. Kubiak seems to be as adverse to playing him as he does CJ though.

[Dreadnought]

Brilliant thread. I salute your decision to start this thread in honor of that most under-appreciated 2015 Bronco hero, Owen Daniels...who, I might add, has been a clear upgrade at the TE position over that baby-soft predecessor Julius Thomas this year.

Note too that more reps to Daniels, and more targets to Daniels in key 4th Q situations, helped lead us to Victory. We can only wonder what would have happened in the OAK and Pitt games had it been OD on the field rather than useless Vernon Davis. I'm thinking 13-2.

[Edmonton Bronco Fan]

Brilliant thread. I salute your decision to start this thread in honor of that most under-appreciated 2015 Bronco hero, Owen Daniels...who, I might add, has been a clear upgrade at the TE position over that baby-soft predecessor Julius Thomas this year.

Note too that more reps to Daniels, and more targets to Daniels in key 4th Q situations, helped lead us to Victory. We can only wonder what would have happened in the OAK and Pitt games had it been OD on the field rather than useless Vernon Davis. I'm thinking 13-2.

I hate parsing games down to one or two individual plays but based on the magnitude of those being 3rd and 4th down plays that would have picked up major yardage and basically put us in position to win both games, I'd have to agree.

[Timmy!]

Personally I hate anti alligator armed, fearless over the middle, tough, smart, good blocking TE's because they can't run a 4.5 40.

[MOtorboat]

So we had to wait 15 weeks for him to have a good game?

He's played much better since they threatened his job by trading for Vernon Davis.

[BroncoJoe]

Personally I hate anti alligator armed, fearless over the middle, tough, smart, good blocking TE's because they can't run a 4.5 40.

But what was his cone drill time?

[BroncoWave]

So we had to wait 15 weeks for him to have a good game?

He's played much better since they threatened his job by trading for Vernon Davis.

Lol this was not his first good game. Nice #hottake though.

[Timmy!]

But what was his cone drill time?

He's no Drew Brees.

[aberdien]

Don't understand why you wouldn't play Virgil in addition to Daniels though. Both seem more than capable.

[MOtorboat]

Lol this was not his first good game. Nice #hottake though.

I know. That's why I followed it up with the second sentence. He was absolute shit for eight weeks, had his job threatened and started to play much better. Last night was by far his best game. He and Osweiler basically won the game.

[Edmonton Bronco Fan]

I know. That's why I followed it up with the second sentence. He was absolute shit for eight weeks, had his job threatened and started to play much better. Last night was by far his best game. He and Osweiler basically won the game.

Gotta give DT some love as well. Came up huge in the clutch as well. That one handed 3rd down grab with the DB draped all over him was ridiculous. I can't believe some people on here were advocating getting rid of him after the past couple weeks leading up to the Bengals game.

[MOtorboat]

Gotta give DT some love as well. Came up huge in the clutch as well. That one handed 3rd down grab with the DB draped all over him was ridiculous.

Of course.

[Dapper Dan]

Don't understand why you wouldn't play Virgil in addition to Daniels though. Both seem more than capable.

Keep him by the RT.

[Dapper Dan]

I'd still rather have Julius Thomas, with Owen Daniels salary.

[Dapper Dan]

So we had to wait 15 weeks for him to have a good game?

He's played much better since they threatened his job by trading for Vernon Davis.

He's been playing possum.

[Buff]

He got off to a slow start - but has been reliable as of late. He is tough and an improvement over Tamme.

[Slick]

Go with Daniels and Green the rest of the way. Let Vernon Davis bring them water when they're thirsty.

[Dreadnought]

Go with Daniels and Green the rest of the way. Let Vernon Davis bring them water when they're thirsty.

He might drop it though, and I don't want those guys getting thirsty. Give that job to Bubba Caldwell

[VonDoom]

Keep him by the RT.

If they're not going to actually throw to Green, this is the least they can do with him.

[Dapper Dan]

Tamme is having a decent year in Atlanta.

[DenBronx]

Got to give Daniels some credit. He really stepped up.

Can he continue this is the question?

[MOtorboat]

Let's not get too carried away. Owen Daniels has more drops than Davis this season.

[BroncoWave]

Let's not get too carried away. Owen Daniels has more drops than Davis this season.

What is each of their drop rate though? It seems like Daniels has probably been targeted more.

[MOtorboat]

What is each of their drop rate though? It seems like Daniels has probably been targeted more.

Probably. Owen Daniels is in the Top 25 players for drops according to Washington Post. Davis isn't listed, meaning he has less.

Daniels had a good game. Caught two crucial catches. I'm not going to get carried away.

[BroncoWave]

Probably. Owen Daniels is in the Top 25 players for drops according to Washington Post. Davis isn't listed, meaning he has less.

Daniels had a good game. Caught two crucial catches. I'm not going to get carried away.

I mean, no one is saying Daniels is an all-pro. But he is our most productive tight end at the moment.

[Nomad]

Let's not get too carried away. Owen Daniels has more drops than Davis this season.


All is forgiven for now, especially as much as O.D. stepped up last night helping the BRONCOS to the win.

[Ravage!!!]

I mean, no one is saying Daniels is an all-pro. But he is our most productive tight end at the moment.

But what is that really saying?

[TimHippo]

Personally I hate anti alligator armed, fearless over the middle, tough, smart, good blocking TE's because they can't run a 4.5 40.

You could run a 4.2 but you are no good as a tight end if you can't catch.

*daniels runs a 6.87 3 cone which is elite for a tight end. The vaunted Vernon Davis only runs a 7.00. Still very good but not elite.

[MOtorboat]

Lol

[TimHippo]

Lol

Boatttttttttttt!

[MOtorboat]

Boatttttttttttt!

You're quoting 3-cone drills from 10 years ago. There's really no other appropriate response other to laugh and point fingers.

[TimHippo]

You're quoting 3-cone drills from 10 years ago. There's really no other appropriate response other to laugh and point fingers.

Did you like the new Star Wars?

[TXBRONC]

I know. That's why I followed it up with the second sentence. He was absolute shit for eight weeks, had his job threatened and started to play much better. Last night was by far his best game. He and Osweiler basically won the game.

His lack of production had more do with Manning sucking than anything else.

[Simple Jaded]

If Daniels is the best they can do next season there's a problem.

[Davii]

Owen Daniels season:
45 catch, 502 yds, 11.2 avg, 3 td

Julius Thomas season:
44 catch, 443 yds, 10.1 avg, 5 td

[BroncoWave]

Owen Daniels season:
45 catch, 502 yds, 11.2 avg, 3 td

Julius Thomas season:
44 catch, 443 yds, 10.1 avg, 5 td

Mo's head just exploded.

[Dapper Dan]

Jacob Tamme

55 catches 596 yards 10.8 average 1 TD

[BroncoWave]

Jacob Tamme

55 catches 596 yards 10.8 average 1 TD

Classic use of the self-high five.

[Buff]

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[aberdien]

Owen Daniels season:
45 catch, 502 yds, 11.2 avg, 3 td

Julius Thomas season:
44 catch, 443 yds, 10.1 avg, 5 td

Plus JT is on the 10th best passing offense.

[Dapper Dan]

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"Mom made pizza rolls!"

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I love how Daniels fights for extra yards and doesn't go down like a 170 pound receiver.

[Dreadnought]

I love how Daniels fights for extra yards and doesn't go down like a 170 pound receiver.

That spin move he made on his 16 yard catch along the sideline was pretty cool. He actually pretty good at YAC

[Dapper Dan]

8196

[Buff]

8196

g-t-f-o

[TXBRONC]

8196

Liked Tamme as pass catching tight end but he wasn't a strong blocker and he never seemed to do well in the red zone.

[Dapper Dan]

g-t-f-o

8200

[BroncoWave]

WTF does Tamme have to do with any of this?

[Dapper Dan]

WTF does Tamme have to do with any of this?

He's here to piss you off.

[Ravage!!!]

You could run a 4.2 but you are no good as a tight end if you can't catch.

*daniels runs a 6.87 3 cone which is elite for a tight end. The vaunted Vernon Davis only runs a 7.00. Still very good but not elite.

Dude.. seriously...... what is it with you and the Madden Football logic?

[BroncoWave]

Dude.. seriously...... what is it with you and the Madden Football logic?

He has to be trolling right? Like, he can't seriously believe he is offering sound football analysis can he?

[Dapper Dan]

Does anyone really pay attention to a 3 cone drill in Madden?

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Does anyone really pay attention to a 3 cone drill in Madden?

You don't?

[Dapper Dan]

You don't?

No, I just use their overall ratings, mostly.

[Simple Jaded]

Hey! Jacob Tamme > Nasty Nate Jackson.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

No, I just use their overall ratings, mostly.

I have no idea what I'm talking about. I played Madden once, and that was about 9 years ago.

[Dapper Dan]

I have no idea what I'm talking about. I played Madden once, and that was about 9 years ago.

Nice try. They didn't have Madden during the Ike Administration.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Nice try. They didn't have Madden during the Ike Administration.

You sumbich

[Simple Jaded]

I played Madden once, and that was about 9 years ago.

How is this even possible? What are you, some kind of overachiever, or something?

[JPPT1974]

Underappreciated but awesome talent!

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

How is this even possible? What are you, some kind of overachiever, or something?

I wanted to quit undefeated.

[Simple Jaded]

I wanted to quit undefeated.

See you're just about the records, just like Peyton, but they're temporary. A life wasted is a legacy you can pass on to your kids.

[slim]

He has redeemed himself.

I think the change in QB may have helped.

[Dreadnought]

He has redeemed himself.

I think the change in QB may have helped.

Ya think?

[TXBRONC]

He has redeemed himself.

I think the change in QB may have helped.

I believe so.

The only thing that the hybrid offense to help Manning be more comfortable did was cause more problems.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

See you're just about the records, just like Peyton, but they're temporary. A life wasted is a legacy you can pass on to your kids.

Fear not compadre. ..my kids have already learned it's perfectly normal to spend 9 or 10 hours a week watching football.

[Dreadnought]

Bump

[Dapper Dan]

Getting Tds were so easy for him today.

[BroncoWave]

Quality bump!

[MOtorboat]

Interesting. So the blocking doesn't matter when he scores two touchdowns...

[VonDoom]

He's really been coming on as of late. Kubiak's offense is designed to use TE's more and I'm glad they're actually doing it now.

[Joel]

Interesting. So the blocking doesn't matter when he scores two touchdowns...
Who said that? He's a good blocker who ALSO catches TDs; if only there were a word for a player like that....

[MOtorboat]

Who said that? He's a good blocker who ALSO catches TDs; if only there were a word for a player like that....

He allowed a sack. He got completely blown up.

But I don't give a shit, he scored two touchdowns. I just think it's interesting that the people who moan about blocking no matter what the tight end does receiving are now ignoring Daniel's blocking screw ups and trying to make me eat crow.

[Joel]

He allowed a sack. He got completely blown up.

But I don't give a shit, he scored two touchdowns. I just think it's interesting that the people who moan about blocking no matter what the tight end does receiving are now ignoring Daniel's blocking screw ups and trying to make me eat crow.
Screw upS, or screw up? I don't expect him to make 100% of blocks, but JT allowed a HELL of a lot more than ONE sack while in Denver. I know Brady was glad Gronk's not just a one-trick pony, and could stay in to help keep Miller off his neck in the second half; they ultimately sent him out to catch 4th down passes because they had no choice, but Brady got KILLED EVERY DOWN when they did, whether he completed the pass or not.

If people want to just sign a big fast WR, fine, but let's call him what he is, which isn't "TE." And, once again, if that's the case, DT's a better WR AND blocker than JT, so we kept the right guy. And JT and Beadles can enjoy the satisfaction of huge paydays while finishing behind Houston and Indy.

[MOtorboat]

Screw upS, or screw up? I don't expect him to make 100% of blocks, but JT allowed a HELL of a lot more than ONE sack while in Denver. I know Brady was glad Gronk's not just a one-trick pony, and could stay in to help keep Miller off his neck in the second half; they ultimately sent him out to catch 4th down passes because they had no choice, but Brady got KILLED EVERY DOWN when they did, whether he completed the pass or not.

If people want to just sign a big fast WR, fine, but let's call him what he is, which isn't "TE." And, once again, if that's the case, DT's a better WR AND blocker than JT, so we kept the right guy. And JT and Beadles can enjoy the satisfaction of huge paydays while finishing behind Houston and Indy.

Says the guy who two years later is still freaking the **** out over one sack allowed by Orlando Franklin in the Super Bowl.

I'll take shit from Dread. I'll take shit from others. But you can **** off.

[Timmy!]

Interesting. So the blocking doesn't matter when he scores two touchdowns...

Lol. You were wrong. Own it. #SB50

[MOtorboat]

Lol. You were wrong. Own it. #SB50

I was. He had a fantastic game.

[Timmy!]

I was. He had a fantastic game.

Atta kid. Only took what 13 games? Now if only 80 who we traded for (which woke 81 up...thank god) would help a bit

[Joel]

Says the guy who two years later is still freaking the **** out over one sack allowed by Orlando Franklin in the Super Bowl.

I'll take shit from Dread. I'll take shit from others. But you can **** off.
STILL not "just one game," else I wouldn't be sweating bullets over our pitiful run game and how the HELL we're gonna keep Manning on his feet for a whole SB when the last time we got him through a whole season healthy was 2012. I guess if he completes 65% of his passes for 300 yds again and our D plays lights out again but we STILL GET BLOWN OUT AGAIN I won't be able to object to that "just one game" either.

Let's just excuse a STACKED team coming up short FOUR STRAIGHT SEASONS by dividing each of them into "just one game; proves nothing."

[Joel]

I'll take shit from Dread. I'll take shit from others. But you can **** off.


Lol. You were wrong. Own it. #SB50
I was. He had a fantastic game.
So you're CONCEDING that argument was (and remains) VALID, but just giving me crap about it because it IS me.

Never change, MO; I wish our linemen could throw good blocks as consistently you throw your own... other stuff.... :rolleyes:

[MOtorboat]

So you're CONCEDING that argument was (and remains) VALID, but just giving me crap about it because it IS me.

Never change, MO. :rolleyes:

Who were those free agents you wanted instead of Manning again?

[Joel]

Who were those free agents you wanted instead of Manning again?
Moot point since 1) we could've had BOTH but 2) we didn't: Manning, CJ and Hillman ride with Schofield, Harris and Mathis, and may God have mercy on their souls.

[Timmy!]

So you're CONCEDING that argument was (and remains) VALID, but just giving me crap about it because it IS me.

Never change, MO; I wish our linemen could throw good blocks as consistently you throw your own... other stuff.... :rolleyes:

How's Houston's draft looking?

[MOtorboat]

Moot point since 1) we could've had BOTH but 2) we didn't: Manning, CJ and Hillman ride with Schofield, Harris and Mathis, and may God have mercy on their souls.

No. No. You wanted them INSTEAD of Manning.

If I have to sit here and read you berating me because I was wrong about Owen Daniels, you're going to take full credit for not wanting Manning to begin with.

[Timmy!]

No. No. You wanted them INSTEAD of Manning.

If I have to sit here and read you berating me because I was wrong about Owen Daniels, you're going to take full credit for not wanting Manning to begin with.

#joelforgm2017

[Hawgdriver]

Interesting. So the blocking doesn't matter when he scores two touchdowns...

Kinda, yeah. lol

Not sure the truth of my statement, but I'll stand behind it.

[MOtorboat]

Kinda, yeah. lol

Not sure the truth of my statement, but I'll stand behind it.

I was being facetious. I don't give a shit how a tight end blocks.

[Joel]

How's Houston's draft looking?
Not great; their division's so awful they managed to make the playoffs.

I'm kind of amazed O'Brien managed to find not one but MULTIPLE QBs worse than the one who got himself, Kubiak and everyone else fired; McNair's really taken a page from that "if you don't win a championship within 4 years I'll punish the team by blowing it up" thing that made Bud Adams so beloved in Houston (ask Wade or Kubiak about that.) Kubiak's been gone TWO FULL YEARS and TJ Yates is STILL the best they've got.

Why do you ask? Think they should've kept Kubiak, Dennison and Wade around to bail out that sinking ship? Probably, but their loss is our gain.

[Joel]

No. No. You wanted them INSTEAD of Manning.
Sure, and I was wrong: We could easily have had BOTH, and a couple championships by now. Since we decided Manning was a one-man offense, it doesn't MATTER.


If I have to sit here and read you berating me because I was wrong about Owen Daniels, you're going to take full credit for not wanting Manning to begin with.
It's not that I didn't want him, it's that I thought he'd be WASTED on us because we couldn't give him anything but Clady, DT and Decker, and expecting an old, immobile bionic QB fresh off FOUR SPINAL SURGERIES to last a whole season, much less win a SB, was a fools errand. Was that belief false?

[MOtorboat]

Sure, and I was wrong: We could easily have had BOTH, and a couple championships by now. Since we decided Manning was a one-man offense, it doesn't MATTER.


It's not that I didn't want him, it's that I thought he'd be WASTED on us because we couldn't give him anything but Clady, DT and Decker, and expecting an old, immobile bionic QB fresh off FOUR SPINAL SURGERIES to last a whole season, much less win a SB, was a fools errand. Was that belief false?

Sure. Whatever you say.

[Hawgdriver]

I was being facetious. I don't give a shit how a tight end blocks.

Did you know that facetious is one of two words that contain all the vowels in alphabetical order? The other....

abstemiously. guess you could add a y to the other one, too