Broncos Gameday Thread: Broncos vs 49ers 08/29/15

[sneakers]

Let's see if the 1st team offense can score points this week.

Go Broncos!

NO INJURIES!!!!!!!!

http://i.imgur.com/7heeXiD.jpg

[wayninja]

No, Sneakers, NO!!!!

[Magnificent Seven]

Go Broncos!

Have fun and stay away from football injuries.

[TXBRONC]

Yeah no injuries and hopefully we see the starting offense get into better sync is this game.

[VonDoom]

This will be the first game this year where I get to watch the complete game in real time. Pumped and ready to go. Stay healthy, boys

[LTC Pain]

GO BRONCOS. No injuries, 1st team scores, defense dominates and at least 6 opposing QB sacks :)

[Denver Native (Carol)]

The third one is usually the most least important.

Following two days of joint practices, the Broncos return to Sports Authority Field at Mile High on Saturday to host the 49ers in a game that means nothing in regards to either team's record.

But it could mean everything to the players fighting for one of the final roster spots — or at least the 75 the team will have after the first round of cuts are made Tuesday.

And it means a lot to even the starters, whose jobs are secure but whose evaluation in and acclimation to the new offense and defense continues.

Here are some of the top storylines to follow Saturday:

rest - http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_28724806/broncos-vs-49ers-preseason-game-3

[Davii]

Looking forward to the starters getting more work. Hopefully the starting offense can get in rhythm and score some points, and hopefully the starting D keeps impressing. No injuries!

[Denver Native (Carol)]

DENVER -- For many years, the Broncos and 49ers had a preseason rivalry -- as absurd as that collision of words may be. It was called the "Battle of the Best in the West," and the sides competed for a trophy that sits in the front lobby of the headquarters building at what is now called the UCHealth Training Center.

The plaque at the trophy's base has not been updated since 2000, when the Broncos defeated the 49ers 28-24 to close that year's preseason at 4-0. They've met in the preseason seven times since then, with the Broncos winning four, but never again has the winner of the preseason series been called the "Best in the West."

Nevertheless, the connections between the clubs have never quite faded. And now, with former 49ers quarterbacks coach Gary Kubiak now guiding the Broncos, the clubs will spar Saturday, capping a four-day period that included two joint practices.

What are the storylines worth watching on Saturday?

rest - http://www.denverbroncos.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Three-Things-to-Watch-Broncos-49ers/9d12f14c-1efc-4211-a649-aefe53d84e27

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Ronnie Robberts
‏@RonnieRobberts

@Broncos @49ers Go Broncos!! Supporting all the way from Namibia, Africa!! @PeytonManningFC @ESanders_10 @DemaryiusT

[SR]

Ronnie Robberts ‏@RonnieRobberts @Broncos @49ers Go Broncos!! Supporting all the way from Namibia, Africa!! @PeytonManningFC @ESanders_10 @DemaryiusT

These Twitter posts are why I don't do Twitter. Looks like a jumbled up mess of wingding nothingness.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

The game will be televised by ch9's alternate station ktvd. For those out of the area, might want to do a google search to see if there is a live stream on ktvd. Also, this link shows where you can pick up the SF telecast and ktvd telecast, depending on where you live.
http://506sports.com/

[tomjonesrocks]

Though I haven't found a stream for the stations, am sure both KPIX-CBS 5 and KTVD-My 20 will block/not show the game even if they do have a stream.

Am following that dude that Falco found who posted the links on Reddit for the last preseason game, but apparently the whole VLC thing and whatnot is dead. Seems like there's a good chance I'll have to wait until 9pm PT to watch the NFLN replay but will be searching...

Have found a bunch of shady pay-links to watch. If I were going to bother with that I'd subscribe to the 7 day GamePass trial and then cancel. If anyone finds a link though let me know!

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis 26s

Evan Mathis down on the field with other young linemen, working the zone-blocking technique with OL coach Clancy Barone. #9News #9Sports

Jeff Legwold ‏@Jeff_Legwold 22m

Brand new sod for #Broncos for tonight's game. Field is ready for the season

Jeff Legwold ‏@Jeff_Legwold 13m

For the Broncos tonight wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders, cornerback Chris Harris Jr., and guard Evan Mathis will... http://espn.go.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0429399332500806253-4 …

[G_Money]

Though I haven't found a stream for the stations, am sure both KPIX-CBS 5 and KTVD-My 20 will block/not show the game even if they do have a stream.

Am following that dude that Falco found who posted the links on Reddit for the last preseason game, but apparently the whole VLC thing and whatnot is dead. Seems like there's a good chance I'll have to wait until 9pm PT to watch the NFLN replay but will be searching...

Have found a bunch of shady pay-links to watch. If I were going to bother with that I'd subscribe to the 7 day GamePass trial and then cancel. If anyone finds a link though let me know!

PMed you.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I'll just wait and watch the replay on the Network tomorrow.

[Davii]

Anyone have a stream?

[MOtorboat]

Is this the one where everyone plays for a half?

Preseason sucks.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Is this the one where everyone plays for a half?

Preseason sucks.

They just said on the local pregame - Manning is expected to play at least a half, maybe more.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

They just said on the local pregame - Manning is expected to play at least a half, maybe more.

Probably a good game for him to get a lot of reps. The 9ers pass rush isn't exactly dominant.

[wayninja]

Probably a good game for him to get a lot of reps. The 9ers pass rush isn't exactly dominant.

I dunno, I hear that Aldon Smith dude is pretty good.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 5m

Norwood competing w Fowler and Caldwell for final roster spots. I expect Norwood to return some punts tonight. If shows well, would help

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I dunno, I hear that Aldon Smith dude is pretty good.

He sure is when he's allowed to be on the field. Isn't he suspended for the year?

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 2m

Doubt he plays much, but he is in uniform and warming up. RT @Reedv85: is Dan Light sitting out?

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 12m

Tony Carter not in uniform. Joins Chris Harris Jr. on the sideline tonight.

[wayninja]

He sure is when he's allowed to be on the field. Isn't he suspended for the year?

9 games, and the 49ers released him.

[TXBRONC]

He sure is when he's allowed to be on the field. Isn't he suspended for the year?

He's no longer a 49er iirc.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

2088009132 Boise Brews Cruise

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Troy Renck retweeted
Denver Post Sports ‏@DPostSports 10m

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[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Sorry, I needed a place to leave that

[sneakers]

go broncos

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 2m

Chris Harris, like Emmanuel Sanders, could have played tonight if a regular-season game. #Broncos

[MOtorboat]

John Lynch.

#humblebrag

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 32s

.@Broncos captains tonight: Corey Nelson, Danny Trevathan, Owen Daniels.

[sneakers]

They got rid of Barth?

he only made every field goal he tried

[dogfish]

way to jump on that loose ball, there, billy joe bobby!


in other news, jim tomsula is a bleeding idiot. . .

[TXBRONC]

That second play is really close but it looks like D. Thomas should be down by contact.

[dogfish]

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 5m

Norwood competing w Fowler and Caldwell for final roster spots. I expect Norwood to return some punts tonight. If shows well, would help

screw that noise! bennie fowler all day long over those other dudes. . . don't be a fool, JFE. . .

[G_Money]

One of these days we should probably try RUNNING for a first down on 3rd and short with the first team. Maybe.

[sneakers]

passing on every play....I see things haven't changed

[wayninja]

Some sorta strange play calls, and some sorta strange throws.

[TXBRONC]

One of these days we should probably try RUNNING for a first down on 3rd and short with the first team. Maybe.

They will eventually.

[Slick]

No, Sneakers, NO!!!!

It's No, Sneakers! No! Take a lap ninja.

NFL Network just did a live look-in. I haven't heard Ron Zappolo's voice in years. I used to run into him jogging at Wash park back in the day.

[wayninja]

Tryin' to hurdle Talib... lol

[dogfish]

baha. . . that's what you get for trying to act like you're back at SC, reggie. . .

[G_Money]

"You wanna hurdle you pay the price." Damn straight, Lynch.

[dogfish]

One of these days we should probably try RUNNING for a first down on 3rd and short with the first team. Maybe.

sept. 13th, G. . . hang in there. . .


:D

[sneakers]

kinda rude slamming him to the ground

[VonDoom]

Von and Talib doing work

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 1m

#Broncos have 13 sacks in two-plus games w Miller's sack tonight

[sneakers]

woo running the ball

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 18s

Broncos' 3-WR sets so far have included Latimer/DT/Norwood.

[G_Money]

Demaryius - "I ain't goin out of bounds. Where's that first down marker?"

[sneakers]

cj anderson is pretty good

[VonDoom]

CJ in mid season form

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 2m

Broncos totally different tonight. More under center. And huddling. Last week was hurry, hurry,..

[sneakers]

manning doing his kyle orton impersonation

[G_Money]

There's Ronnie Hillman. Gotta block son.

[sneakers]

first down!

[G_Money]

Well done Jordan! Somebody wants to make the team.

[G_Money]

Bowman timed that perfectly.

SOMEBODY block that dude. Jeez.

[VonDoom]

DT could have had that. Someone has to block Bowman. All in all, though, pretty nice drive

[G_Money]

DT should have caught that, but Manning should have thrown it further too. DT had the separation. Maybe Manning was concerned about the window with the over-the-top coverage.

[dogfish]

jeebus! put juwan thompson in before bowman kills manning!


:tsk:

[dogfish]

Demaryius - "I ain't goin out of bounds. Where's that first down marker?"

gotta like that in pre-season, right?

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 2m

Manning has been sacked twice, both by Bowman...First string offense scores on 6th drive of preseason. But Manning had TD, and underthrew DT

[TXBRONC]

sept. 13th, G. . . hang in there. . .


:D

I have always appreciated how you are always calm.

[wayninja]

3rd and 24, go defense!

[sneakers]

that was close

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 1m

In third-and-long. TJ Ward becomes linebacker w Bruton and Webster in coverage. A lot of versatility w this secondary #Broncos

[sneakers]

let's get a touchdown

[TXBRONC]

jeebus! put juwan thompson in before bowman kills manning!


:tsk:

After I just got done saying how calm you always are. :tsk:

[wayninja]

I was going to make a fainting goat joke, but it's preseason. Good move.

[SR]

CJ got poked in the eye. Line is shaky. I also think the camp buzz about Peyton having more zip on the ball is BS.

[VonDoom]

Line is not looking great in pass protection.

How about Colquitt, though? He wants to keep his job :D

[wayninja]

Wow, nice defensive play... 2pts!

[sneakers]

this offense doesn't look tuned up yet

[dogfish]

saaaack!!


:defense:

[sneakers]

Wow, nice defensive play... 2pts!

pls delay your posts by 2 minutes for my stream to catch up

[VonDoom]

That defense, though ...

[Northman]

Well sounds like we at least have a defense. Lol

[wayninja]

pls delay your posts by 2 minutes for my stream to catch up

I've had quite enough of your stream, thank you.

[TXBRONC]

CJ got poked in the eye. Line is shaky. I also think the camp buzz about Peyton having more zip on the ball is BS.

I think the biggest issue is that they're just not in sync yet.

[TXBRONC]

pls delay your posts by 2 minutes for my stream to catch up

Maybe your stream just blows sneak. :whoknows:

[wayninja]

I think the biggest issue is that they're just not in sync yet.

Peyton just doesn't look comfortable at all to me. Not sure if it's something physical or the new system or what, but he had some really shaky/bad passes and just looks kinda off rhythm.

[SR]

Peyton just doesn't look comfortable at all to me. Not sure if it's something physical or the new system or what, but he had some really shaky/bad passes and just looks kinda off rhythm.

I don't like him taking snaps from under center. His drop back is awful.

[wayninja]

Norwood lookin' pretty good, Dog...

[wayninja]

Peyton end zone pick... weird play. Premature celebration may be costly, like sneakers' stream.

[wayninja]

I don't like him taking snaps from under center. His drop back is awful.

It's definitely clunky, that's for sure

[VonDoom]

Norwood earning a roster spot. Offense is still out of synch, though. I have no confidence when they have the ball, which is not something I usually say since Manning has been here

[sneakers]

Maybe your stream just blows sneak. :whoknows:

it keeps freezing for a second, and then resumes so I keep falling further and further behind ;_;

[wayninja]

It could be worse, Kap hasn't completed a pass yet...

[Bronco4ever]

A long drive here would make me feel better.

[tomjonesrocks]

Damn. Very late but finally able to focus. We did all hands in cook night and it took forever to get free - but worth it.

Thanks G and Carol for feed options!

Caught "DT and Manning not on the same page"...

[SR]

It's definitely clunky, that's for sure

I give it two regular season games and a 1-1 record before Kubiak adjusts and puts Peyton back in the shotgun.

[tomjonesrocks]

I give it two regular season games and a 1-1 record before Kubiak adjusts and puts Peyton back in the shotgun.

I could see that but I hope not.

[sneakers]

daniels can catch!

[sneakers]

wooo

nice catch

[wayninja]

Bowman just vivisected CJ...

[Northman]

Manning with 2 picks? Did I see that right?

[TXBRONC]

it keeps freezing for a second, and then resumes so I keep falling further and further behind ;_;

I'm sorry sneak. I know that sucks when stream keeps freezing up. I'm using NFL Game Pass and it's frozen several times.

[wayninja]

Looks like Manning isn't exclusively under center, so it'll just be interesting to see how much it's mixed up.

[wayninja]

Manning with 2 picks? Did I see that right?

No, just the 1. Where'd you see that?

[SR]

I could see that but I hope not. I hope so.


EDIT: I don't hope for the 1-1 record but I hope Peyton spends more time in the shotgun.

[Northman]

Manning with 2 picks? Did I see that right?

No, just the 1. Where'd you see that?

On one of my game apps. But its been wacky all might so I'm not surprised.

[VonDoom]

Hillman continues to impress so far. He looks dynamic in this offense

[SR]

DT is incredible

[TXBRONC]

I give it two regular season games and a 1-1 record before Kubiak adjusts and puts Peyton back in the shotgun.

Manning ran a similar offense in Indianapolis for years.

[SR]

Hellman continues to impress so far. He looks dynamic in this offense

Except the sack he missed the block on

[SR]

Manning ran a similar offense in Indianapolis for years.

That's fine. He's old now.

[wayninja]

81 (daniels) was wide open, although manning didn't have a ton of time to think.

[dogfish]

okay, who's ready for the play-action swing out to the fullback in the flat?


old-school kubes fave. . .

[sneakers]

another field goal

[VonDoom]

Except the sack he missed the block on

CJ couldn't block Bowman either but yes, I agree

[VonDoom]

Latimer has to catch that.

Nice long drives and ball control. No penalties. Gotta punch it in though

[MOtorboat]

Vinovich truly is a piece of shit.

[Northman]

Might be a very low scoring year for us.

[SR]

CJ couldn't block Bowman either but yes, I agree

Hillman has had a phenomenal camp and preseason. Pass pro and blitz pickup has never been his strength though.

[wayninja]

Kap has -13 passing yards and is 17 yards away from making this a 1 point game (or tie depending on how it plays out)... wow.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 2m

Big gain by Kaepernick.. TJ Ward hurt on the play.. jogged off field, but now getting attention from trainer. #Broncos

[wayninja]

piece of shit move, boldin

[sneakers]

wow that was pretty cheap

[TXBRONC]

That's fine. He's old now.

True I don't think he moves that badly.

[TXBRONC]

Peyton just doesn't look comfortable at all to me. Not sure if it's something physical or the new system or what, but he had some really shaky/bad passes and just looks kinda off rhythm.


I don't think he's hurt and would bet it's the new system and not being in sync with his receivers.

[GEM]

At the game...Manning looks bad.

[Simple Jaded]

Gabbert has filthy talent.

[wayninja]

Gabbert has filthy talent.

And a filthy jersey

[wayninja]

At the game...Manning looks bad.

I just hope he doesn't break a hip getting out of his rascal

[TXBRONC]

Gabbert has filthy talent.

Do you mean he stinks?

[I Eat Staples]

Sigh...trying to remain hopeful for the new coaching regime, but that's hard to do after watching our offensive system. When will the NFL evolve and realize being in the Shotgun is always more efficient than being under center, even on running plays? I mean, even Nick Saban gets it now. But it's unreasonable to expect coaches to understand things like this when most of them still punt on 4th and short and kick 50+ yard field goals...

On the bright side, our defense looks really awesome. If we had this defense in 2012 and 2013 maybe we win 2 superbowls. Brock's been looking better this preseason too, I really hope he can be the real deal if this regime does indeed see him as the future. He's certainly a better fit in this neutered offense than Peyton...

[Simple Jaded]

Do you mean he stinks?

Oh he stinks.

[NightTerror218]

So far it seems lime Oz is a much better fit for Kubiak system.

Manning g jittery behind do his line and not trusting them? He is sounding like the Manning from the 2nd half of last season.

[GEM]

Cj is a beast. Oline let some monsters through. D gets a little bit over aggressive and whiffs here and there. Not the best show tonight. Manning scares me in this style offense.

[tomjonesrocks]

At the game...Manning looks bad.

Hmm. Wonder if Denver will have to go back to what he's comfortable with in time...

[NightTerror218]

Hmm. Wonder if Denver will have to go back to what he's comfortable with in time...

As long as its the Manning from of the 1st half of last season and not the 2nd half.

[Simple Jaded]

Sigh...trying to remain hopeful for the new coaching regime, but that's hard to do after watching our offensive system. When will the NFL evolve and realize being in the Shotgun is always more efficient than being under center, even on running plays? I mean, even Nick Saban gets it now. But it's unreasonable to expect coaches to understand things like this when most of them still punt on 4th and short and kick 50+ yard field goals...

Except it's not.

[GEM]

They will if this is the product. No way this offense scores enough to win games as it is now.

[wayninja]

I sure hope we don't have to change our entire offensive scheme just to hide the deficiencies of 1 player.

*this post was made in jest*

[TXBRONC]

Sigh...trying to remain hopeful for the new coaching regime, but that's hard to do after watching our offensive system. When will the NFL evolve and realize being in the Shotgun is always more efficient than being under center, even on running plays? I mean, even Nick Saban gets it now. But it's unreasonable to expect coaches to understand things like this when most of them still punt on 4th and short and kick 50+ yard field goals...

On the bright side, our defense looks really awesome. If we had this defense in 2012 and 2013 maybe we win 2 superbowls. Brock's been looking better this preseason too, I really hope he can be the real deal if this regime does indeed see him as the future. He's certainly a better fit in this neutered offense than Peyton...

Yeah do you have any factual data on that?

[G_Money]

Put Siemian in this game so we can win it.

[MOtorboat]

Except it's not.

Except it is.


Yeah do you have any factual data on that?

Yes.


Shotgun formations are generally more efficient than formations with the quarterback under center.
Over the past five seasons, offenses have averaged 5.8 yards per play from Shotgun (not counting the Wildcat or other college-style option plays), but just 5.0 yards per play with the quarterback under center. This wide split exists even if you analyze the data to try to weed out biases like teams using Shotgun more often on third-and-long, or against prevent defenses in the fourth quarter. Shotgun offense is more efficient if you only look at the first half, on every down, and even if you only look at running back carries rather than passes and scrambles.
Clearly, NFL teams have figured the importance of the Shotgun out for themselves. In 2001, NFL teams only used Shotgun on 14 percent of plays. Five years later, in 2006, that had increased slightly, to 20 percent of plays. Shotgun usage has risen steadily since then, shattering the halfway point in 2013 (when NFL teams used Shotgun 59 percent of the time) and then creeping over the 60 percent threshold in 2014. Before 2007, no team had ever used Shotgun on more than half its offensive plays. In 2014, 26 different teams used Shotgun over 50 percent of the time, led by Philadelphia which used Shotgun on an NFL-record 86 percent of plays. (That was actually a very slight decline for Philadelphia, from 86.0 percent in 2013 to 85.6 percent last year.) It is likely that if teams continue to increase their usage of the Shotgun, defenses will adapt and the benefit of the formation will become less pronounced. But it certainly isn't happening yet; the difference between success on Shotgun and non-Shotgun plays in 2001 was bigger than in 2008, 2009, or 2010.
Pro Football Prospectus 2007, Tampa Bay chapter

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/info/fo-basics

[Simple Jaded]

They're gonna ******* keep Caldwell again, smh.

[I Eat Staples]

Except it's not.


Yeah do you have any factual data on that?

I wish I had a link to a complete study, which I'm sure exists somewhere, but this article (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25125128/mccarthy-says-packers-will-use-more-shotgun-and-pistol-next-season) at least has some numbers to support it.

Most important line of the article:


On average over the last five seasons, 29 of 32 teams have been more productive on a yards per play basis out of the shotgun.

[UnderArmour]

They will if this is the product. No way this offense scores enough to win games as it is now.

It's preseason. If the team comes out of the gates 0-4 (or the D just carries this team everywhere and Manning can't do anything), then Manning will be benched for Oz. I'm not too worried.

[Simple Jaded]

Shotgun is for the passing game, pistol is for college.

[MOtorboat]

Shotgun is for the passing game, pistol is for college.

And it's not 1980 anymore.

[Simple Jaded]

I wish I had a link to a complete study, which I'm sure exists somewhere, but this article (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25125128/mccarthy-says-packers-will-use-more-shotgun-and-pistol-next-season) at least has some numbers to support it.

Most important line of the article:
Draw plays, whoop di do.

[Simple Jaded]

And it's not 1980 anymore.

It's not college either.

[wayninja]

I don't give a shit which is statistically more efficient... Manning looks flat out wonky trying to do whatever it is he's doing. Don't do that. That is my analysis.

[I Eat Staples]

Shotgun is for the passing game, pistol is for college.

The NFL copies/learns from the college game, not the other way around.

Just look at the great offenses around the NFL recently, most of them run greater than 50% of their offense from the shotgun. The Colts were doing it back with Manning, the Pats, Denver the past few years, the Eagles under Kelly...and it's just common sense, if you force the defense to spread out, you're going to be more successful.

[VonDoom]

Montee Ball sighting!

[MOtorboat]

A bubble screen on third down. UR is gonna be pissed.

[Simple Jaded]

A bubble screen on third down. UR is gonna be pissed.

It's an extension of the running game, because running from shotgun sucks.

[Simple Jaded]

The NFL copies/learns from the college game, not the other way around.

Just look at the great offenses around the NFL recently, most of them run greater than 50% of their offense from the shotgun. The Colts were doing it back with Manning, the Pats, Denver the past few years, the Eagles under Kelly...and it's just common sense, if you force the defense to spread out, you're going to be more successful.

Yeah spreads are awesome, I can't wait til NFL QB's are getting audibles from coaches on the sidelines.

Not all evolution is good.

[I Eat Staples]

It's an extension of the running game, because running from shotgun sucks.

The Eagles lead the NFL in rushing in 2013 and they exclusively run the shotgun.

[I Eat Staples]

Yeah spreads are awesome, I can't wait til NFL QB's are getting audibles from coaches on the sidelines.

So you don't like the spread offense at all? Good thing you aren't a Patriots fan, all those Superbowl appearances and wins would really take a toll on you!

[wayninja]

How did that not hit the ground???

[Simple Jaded]

The Eagles lead the NFL in rushing in 2013 and they exclusively run the shotgun.

The the plays they can call in running game is limited by the shotgun, if it wasn't for the sweet spread they have no chance of leading the league.

You can call any run play from under Center.

You said it was more efficient, it's not.

[wayninja]

How did that not hit the ground???

It did hit the ground, dammit.

[VonDoom]

Gamepass had been playing the Broncos broadcast and now it's suddenly the 49er broadcast? What happened here?

[Simple Jaded]

And there's why Gabbert stinks, no balls.

[I Eat Staples]

The the plays they can call in running game is limited by the shotgun, if it wasn't for the sweet spread they have no chance of leading the league.

You can call any run play from under Center.

You said it was more efficient, it's not.

What do you mean you can call any run play from under center but not in the shotgun? They're different formations, you run different plays for different formations, I don't see why there would be more or less plays, just different ones.

And even if that is true, that you have a larger play selection from under center, that has nothing to do with efficiency. If you could run the same exact play over and over and average more yards per play doing that than doing anything else, then calling that one play every down would be the most efficient course of action.

[NightTerror218]

Plus the advantage of under center s
is the RB is starting off running and not flat footed.

Patriots have tasted SB wins so why even bring the up?

Kubiak has not had a lot scoring offense in the past. This is the system that won the SBs in Denver before and was productive in Texas.

[VonDoom]

Marsh is playing himself OUT of a potential roster spot, with a big missed tackle and the PI penalty

[chazoe60]

Am I crazy for thinking that at this moment the biggest question mark on the team is Manning?

[NightTerror218]

Marsh is playing himself OUT of a potential roster spot, with a big missed tackle and the PI penalty

I think Doss beats him out.

[Hardwired]

Am I crazy for thinking that at this moment the biggest question mark on the team is Manning?

I think the same, so yes you're crazy.

[I Eat Staples]

Plus the advantage of under center s
is the RB is starting off running and not flat footed.

Sure, but if you line up in the gun and spread the defense out, there are less defenders in the middle of the field to actually tackle your running back. And if you're under center in short yardage situations, you're basically telling the defense you're going to run. In the shotgun they're forced to defend the pass, leaving them exposed to the run.

[NightTerror218]

Am I crazy for thinking that at this moment the biggest question mark on the team is Manning?

Two preseason games and I am thinking the same. I hope by game 2 of the season he figures this offense and timing out or something.

[NightTerror218]

Sure, but if you line up in the gun and spread the defense out, there are less defenders in the middle of the field to actually tackle your running back. And if you're under center in short yardage situations, you're basically telling the defense you're going to run. In the shotgun they're forced to defend the pass, leaving them exposed to the run.

That is only if you are spreading out the offense with like 3 WR. If not then it does not matter. Bring in a TE to block then it does not matter if in shot gun or under center, same amount in the box unless they are bringing down a safety.

[NightTerror218]

I think Montee ball survives the first cut but gets traded soon.

[Simple Jaded]

So you don't like the spread offense at all? Good thing you aren't a Patriots fan, all those Superbowl appearances and wins would really take a toll on you!

I hate the spread, I hate Mannings offense, and it hasn't effected my health in the slightest.

[I Eat Staples]

I hate the spread, I hate Mannings offense, and it hasn't effected my health in the slightest.

I just like watching my team win. If the stats showed that lining up under center and playing power football gained more yardage per play I'd be arguing for that. But it doesn't.

[Simple Jaded]

What do you mean you can call any run play from under center but not in the shotgun? They're different formations, you run different plays for different formations, I don't see why there would be more or less plays, just different ones.

And even if that is true, that you have a larger play selection from under center, that has nothing to do with efficiency. If you could run the same exact play over and over and average more yards per play doing that than doing anything else, then calling that one play every down would be the most efficient course of action.

It has everything to do with efficiency, but whatever, you never made any distinction whatsoever in your blanket statement. You simply said "even in the running game" (or something like that).

You can run any offensive play from under C, especially in the running game, this is why some NFL HC's have been slow to adopt a full-blown, batshit crazy spread.

Btw, I seem to remember the Cheats running from under C more than they do from shotgun, I may be wrong, yet them and their success was the first example you cited. Seems like a poor example.

[NightTerror218]

It has everything to do with efficiency, but whatever, you never made any distinction whatsoever in your blanket statement. You simply said "even in the running game" (or something like that).

You can run any offensive play from under C, especially in the running game, this is why some NFL HC's have been slow to adopt a full-blown, batshit crazy spread.

Btw, I seem to remember the Cheats running from under C more than they do from shotgun, I may be wrong, yet them and their success was the first example you cited. Seems like a poor example.

The last few years they ran more from under center in the playoffs, using Blount as a bull and following.

[chazoe60]

I despise running from the shotgun.

[I Eat Staples]

It has everything to do with efficiency, but whatever, you never made any distinction whatsoever in your blanket statement. You simply said "even in the running game" (or something like that).

You can run any offensive play from under C, especially in the running game, this is why some NFL HC's have been slow to adopt a full-blown, batshit crazy spread.

Btw, I seem to remember the Cheats running from under C more than they do from shotgun, I may be wrong, yet them and their success was the first example you cited. Seems like a poor example.

Efficiency is all about yards and scoring. Play calling, gameplanning and the like are just ways to get to that point of efficiency. If you have more play calls available under center but they generate less yards than plays you can call from the shotgun, then they aren't more efficient.

The Patriots did run from under center a lot against the Colts, but I think it was specific to that matchup.

[Simple Jaded]

I just like watching my team win. If the stats showed that lining up under center and playing power football gained more yardage per play I'd be arguing for that. But it doesn't.

You simply want stats then, football is a lot more nuanced than that, at its best the running game and passing game are symbiotic, in the spread you're emphasizing the passing game and making it easier for the QB at the expense of the running game playbook.

[I Eat Staples]

You simply want stats then, football is a lot more nuanced than that, at its best the running game and passing game are symbiotic, in the spread you're emphasizing the passing game and making it easier for the QB at the expense of the running game playbook.

I much prefer passing over running, it's easier to do because the rules favor it, so an offense SHOULD be built around passing the ball. That said, I don't believe the spread harms the running game at all. By spreading the defense out and emphasizing the passing game, you're opening up running lanes. It's still a symbiotic relationship as you say.

[wayninja]

This thread went sideways around page 9

[Simple Jaded]

Efficiency is all about yards and scoring. Play calling, gameplanning and the like are just ways to get to that point of efficiency. If you have more play calls available under center but they generate less yards than plays you can call from the shotgun, then they aren't more efficient.

The Patriots did run from under center a lot against the Colts, but I think it was specific to that matchup.
Which plays are getting less yards? Your original statement is basically just saying all NFL teams should ditch their scheme and run draw plays because there's an article on the Internet.

No, it wasn't just the Colts game, even when Doogie was in Denver they ran from under C.

[Simple Jaded]

Sure, but if you line up in the gun and spread the defense out, there are less defenders in the middle of the field to actually tackle your running back. And if you're under center in short yardage situations, you're basically telling the defense you're going to run. In the shotgun they're forced to defend the pass, leaving them exposed to the run.
If you're under C in short yardage your entire playbook is available to you, especially play action, so it is absolutely false that you're telling the defense that you're running. Whereas when you're in shotgun in short yardage you're telling the defense that it's least or less likely to run the ball.

[wayninja]

Drew Soicher was pretty animated in the post game about how stupid it was for Manning to be out there at all, and he said that the Broncos entire playbook is totally different than what we are seeing in preseason. He seemed fairly pissed. Interesting.

[Simple Jaded]

Drew Soicher was pretty animated in the post game about how stupid it was for Manning to be out there at all, and he said that the Broncos entire playbook is totally different than what we are seeing in preseason. He seemed fairly pissed. Interesting.

I can't agree that preseason games are useless but that seems to be gaining momentum.

Btw, Soicher is kind of a dick.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

There is some pretty rich over reaction in this thread. Manning will be fine. The timing will come.

The shotgun isn't the issue. The crappy fade he threw to DT was out of the shotgun. Manning had a few throws off target due to timing, and a few throws looked like the ball came out of his hand funny. He also had some really nice throws.

You guys are dilusional if you don't think Manning will have the timing issues worked out.

Finally, I love what I see with the west coast offense. We are chewing up yards and TOP with this offense. I predict lots of big plays in the second half of games as D coordinators try to find solutions for the running game. Defenses will be tired and frustrated.

But go ahead and shoot from the hip and overreact everyone. It wouldn't be the same if we didn't.

[dogfish]

manning is old, but he still has to get some reps before they count. . .

and even when he was youngr, he had some slow starts. . . and won the division every year. . . he'll do both of those this year as well, most likely. . .

older, timing-based guy, who got limited reps, and is going to throw quite a bit less this year also. . .

works just fine. . . the defense is going to be the real show this year anyway. . . manning getting his timing down around late november is gonna be perfect-- especially when he still has some arm left to help bring us home down the stretch. . .



:defense:

[Magnificent Seven]

Nice win for our Broncos. However, offensive linemen played horrible in the first half they need to work together. Offensive linemen need to have these five characteristics: intelligence, toughness, work ethic, good character, and athletic ability. They played without Clady and Mathis. That's okay. They need to find a way to improve offensive line pass-blocking skills.

Tonight was Peyton Manning's first game without wearing glove. He played fairly without Emmanuel Sanders and He will simply knock the rust off. Personally, I am not worried about him. Manning is still adjusting to Kubiak's new offense.

Holy Mackerel! Defense looks SHARP in the first half. They killed Niners' offense. It was way beyond my expectations. I am telling you something... this year will be defense's year!

Let's see how the next game will go. GO BRONCOS!

Good Night!

[silkamilkamonico]

So does Denver find a way to throw the game next season against Arizona, considering a SuperBowl winning team has never went undefeated n the preseason?

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Nice win for our Broncos. However, offensive linemen played horrible in the first half they need to work together. Offensive linemen need to have these five characteristics: intelligence, toughness, work ethic, good character, and athletic ability. They played without Clady and Mathis. That's okay. They need to find a way to improve offensive line pass-blocking skills.

Tonight was Peyton Manning's first game without wearing glove. He played fairly without Emmanuel Sanders and He will simply knock the rust off. Personally, I am not worried about him. Manning is still adjusting to Kubiak's new offense.

Holy Mackerel! Defense looks SHARP in the first half. They killed Niners' offense. It was way beyond my expectations. I am telling you something... this year will be defense's year!

Let's see how the next game will go. GO BRONCOS!

Good Night!

The offensive line did not played horribly. The 5 up front did their jobs well. The sacks were due to RB's not picking up blitzes in the A gap.

[sneakers]

Broncos going for Preseason National Champs next week

[HORSEPOWER 56]

I'm pretty sure the undefeated Dolphins team was also undefeated in the preseason that year.

[VonDoom]

This thread went sideways around page 9

You can tell how exciting the game was considering the thread going off track and still only being 13 pages

[VonDoom]

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 7h7 hours ago

#broncos win 19-12. First string offense six points on six drives. Defense dominant again. Hasn't allowed TD in preseason

Denver Broncos ‏@Broncos 7h7 hours ago Denver, CO

"We know what we're doing now. We've just got to execute."

- @CodyLatimer14 on #Broncos' new offense

Denver Broncos ‏@Broncos 7h7 hours ago Denver, CO

#Manning: "Some good things we can build on ... Just need to do a better job finishing in the red zone." #SFvsDEN

Denver Broncos ‏@Broncos 7h7 hours ago Denver, CO

#Manning: "We're still figuring out who we are -- what we can hang our hat on." #SFvsDEN

Troy Renck ‏@TroyRenck 7h7 hours ago

Kubiak said concerned about punt return. Mentioned Emmanuel Sanders as potential option on punt return when healthy

Denver Broncos ‏@Broncos 7h7 hours ago Denver, CO

.@X_RAYted56: "Each week I feel like I've gotten better, taken steps [forward]. ... I've limited my mistakes."

Danny Trevathan ‏@Grindin_59 6h6 hours ago

First game back since surgery, that juice coming back! Felt good being out there with my Squad. Great team win! #BroncosUp

Cameron Wolfe ‏@CameronWolfe 7h7 hours ago

Montee Ball said he was "surprised" at his lack of snaps tonight as the team told him he would get more. Thinks he's the 4th RB now.

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 6h6 hours ago

.@cjandersonb22, on the offense not finishing drives: "We'll get better and we'll definitely be finishing Week 1, I can promise you that."

Nicki Jhabvala ‏@NickiJhabvala 6h6 hours ago

Gary Kubiak: "Special teams is a big factor with (Montee) and Juwan as far as playing on a regular basis. We'll see. I'm fine with Montee."

Nicki Jhabvala ‏@NickiJhabvala 6h6 hours ago

Gary Kubiak said they're "right on schedule to where we want to be" with Emmanuel Sanders. Said he should back on the field this week.

Nicki Jhabvala ‏@NickiJhabvala 6h6 hours ago

Kubiak on the punt return job: "Emmanuel (Sanders) is very capable and could be a great, great punt returner. We have to get him back."

Nicki Jhabvala ‏@NickiJhabvala 6h6 hours ago

C.J. Anderson on the Broncos' offense: "It's not like the defense is beating us. We're beating ourselves up."

[TXBRONC]

I just like watching my team win. If the stats showed that lining up under center and playing power football gained more yardage per play I'd be arguing for that. But it doesn't.

Well this type of offense has a long history of being successful.

Might want to take into consideration some of other things like three rookie offensive linemen and Manning and other veterans getting days offs during camp.

[TXBRONC]

manning is old, but he still has to get some reps before they count. . .

and even when he was youngr, he had some slow starts. . . and won the division every year. . . he'll do both of those this year as well, most likely. . .

older, timing-based guy, who got limited reps, and is going to throw quite a bit less this year also. . .

works just fine. . . the defense is going to be the real show this year anyway. . . manning getting his timing down around late november is gonna be perfect-- especially when he still has some arm left to help bring us home down the stretch. . .



:defense:

I don't how long it will take for Manning and his receiving corps to get into sync but I wouldn't until late November. Hopefully be little sooner than that like maybe mid to late October.

The offense may sputter for awhile but like you said this defense looks like it's going to be show stopper.

[TXBRONC]

Broncos going for Preseason National Champs next week

Don't you have a glitchy video stream to get back too. :wave: :D

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Drew Soicher was pretty animated in the post game about how stupid it was for Manning to be out there at all, and he said that the Broncos entire playbook is totally different than what we are seeing in preseason. He seemed fairly pissed. Interesting.

I did hear that, and Soicher said that nothing offensively that we have seen in the preseason has come from the playbook. The offense will be fine once the regular season starts.

And from Peyton last night after the game


"I’m pretty comfortable doing that," Manning said of his work under center. "I’ve been doing that for a long time. I guess we’ve been in the shotgun a little bit more as of late but I’ve definitely played under center for a lot of my career so I feel pretty good doing that."

full article - http://www.denverbroncos.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Ups-downs-for-Peyton-Manning-and-the-Broncos-first-team/50f2108a-e8dc-4032-9c49-8866b5d31af8

[Northman]

Am I crazy for thinking that at this moment the biggest question mark on the team is Manning?

Nope.

[SR]

I did hear that, and Soicher said that nothing offensively that we have seen in the preseason has come from the playbook. The offense will be fine once the regular season starts. And from Peyton last night after the game full article - http://www.denverbroncos.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Ups-downs-for-Peyton-Manning-and-the-Broncos-first-team/50f2108a-e8dc-4032-9c49-8866b5d31af8

His drop backs looked uncoordinated.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

from article:


1. GETTING THE OFFENSE INTO RHYTHM.

The first-team offense mounted the kind of lengthy drives it couldn't sustain seven days earlier in Houston. Its first scoring march to a 37-yard Brandon McManus field goal consumed eight minutes, 13 seconds and took 14 plays. Its second field-goal drive gobbled up six minutes and 12 seconds, covering 72 yards in 13 plays.

But the 49ers' blitz stymied the Broncos, and helped knock them off track. Although the Broncos recovered from Navorro Bowman's first sack to get out of second-and-17 via two passes to Jordan Norwood, they couldn't recover from Bowman's second sack, which knocked the team back to second-and-18 from the San Francisco 23-yard-line. Peyton Manning looked for Demaryius Thomas near the end zone on third-and-14, but Thomas had to stop for the pass, and Dontae Johnson hit him as the football arrived, forcing an incompletion.

The 49ers' third sack, a Corey Lemonier blitz that saw him break through unblocked, forced the Broncos to punt early in the second quarter.

full article - http://www.denverbroncos.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Postgame-Three-Things-vs-49ers/5fdd38c9-e3c2-4843-973f-591673581cd9

[Dzone]

Von Miller is playing at a different speed than everyone else. Holy crap.
Montee just cant seem to find the hole

[Bronco4ever]

Montee just cant seem to find the hole

He's really good at finding a spot on the bench.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

With as far as Montee has dropped, I am thinking they may be looking to trade him.

[Valar Morghulis]

Montee just cant seem to find the hole

Said yo momma?

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Jeff Legwold ‏@Jeff_Legwold 2h

#Broncos 15 sacks in three preseason games and have 12 different players with at least .5 of a sack in those three games.

Jeff Legwold ‏@Jeff_Legwold 2h

#Broncos will be happy if sign of things to come, but #Broncos three sacks in Saturday night's game by Miller, Ware and Ray.

Jeff Legwold ‏@Jeff_Legwold 2h

Snap counts from Sat. #Broncos game -- 42 for Manning and starting OL (no Mathis). Shane Ray led D with 46, Webster 45 and Barrett w/43

Jeff Legwold ‏@Jeff_Legwold 3h

Don't think the #Broncos will make any cuts today, asked HC Gary Kubiak last night if would make cuts Sunday and he said "probably not''

Jeff Legwold ‏@Jeff_Legwold 3h

From this A.M. -- #Broncos QB Peyton Manning on where things stand with the team's offense: http://espn.go.com/blog/denver-broncos/post/_/id/14556/peyton-manning-on-offense-were-still-very-much-figuring-out-who-we-are …

Jeff Legwold ‏@Jeff_Legwold 12h12 hours ago

In terms of the Broncos depth chart two of the most intriguing items from Saturday night's preseason win were:... http://espn.go.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0429522095702023893-4 …

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 59m

Top-rated @Broncos, per @PFF: Kilgo (+3.8), M.Jackson (+3.7), Garcia (+2.8), Garland (+2.7), Sambrailo/R.Harris/Norwood (all +2.4).

[Magnificent Seven]

Von Miller is playing at a different speed than everyone else. Holy crap.
Montee just cant seem to find the hole

Let's move Von Miller to RB position! :D

[Valar Morghulis]

Let's move Von Miller to RB position! :D

i think champ bailey could do a job at rb

[MOtorboat]

i think champ bailey could do a job at rb

I am going to kneecap you in October.

FYI.

[Dzone]

Let's move Von Miller to RB position! :D
If this was 1950 he would be a two way player. Hell yes he would be a helluva fullback to bring down.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Postgame victory speech
Head Coach Gary Kubiak addresses the team after Saturday's 19-12 preseason win over the 49ers.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Postgame-victory-speech/84c322cf-3cfd-4ee8-a162-f568ed52e7b9?utm_content=buffer81b2f&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Manning: 'Good things we can build on'
Peyton Manning speaks to the press following a victory over the 49ers.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Manning-Good-things-we-can-build-on/c879228b-67ab-4950-8cc9-250cc60a279b

[Dzone]

Said yo momma?
I wondered if anyone would pick up the intended connotation

[Valar Morghulis]

I wondered if anyone would pick up the intended connotation

i am predictable if nothing else

[BroncoWave]

I wondered if anyone would pick up the intended connotation

I think you just might be the first person to use "find the hole" in such a manner. Congrats!

[tripp]

With as far as Montee has dropped, I am thinking they may be looking to trade him.

Would we even get anything for him (apart from a bag of footballs)?

[BroncoWave]

Would we even get anything for him (apart from a bag of footballs)?

A late round pick if we're really lucky. RBs are so plentiful though I'd be a little surprised if anyone bit.

[TXBRONC]

I did hear that, and Soicher said that nothing offensively that we have seen in the preseason has come from the playbook. The offense will be fine once the regular season starts.

And from Peyton last night after the game



full article - http://www.denverbroncos.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Ups-downs-for-Peyton-Manning-and-the-Broncos-first-team/50f2108a-e8dc-4032-9c49-8866b5d31af8


Why would Kubiak run plays that are not even the playbook? That just doesn't sound right.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

WATCH: Aqib Talib body slams Reggie Bush, skirmish ensues

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2015/08/30/watch-aqib-talib-body-slams-reggie-bush-skirmish-ensues/35212/

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Why would Kubiak run plays that are not even the playbook? That just doesn't sound right.

I have no idea, and I do not know how Soicher would know that, but that is what he said.

[TXBRONC]

I have no idea, and I do not know how Soicher would know that, but that is what he said.

I know you were just letting us know so my question is more for him. Like you my first thought was how would he know this?

[wayninja]

I know you were just letting us know so my question is more for him. Like you my first thought was how would he know this.

I wish I would have recorded it, I was only half listening. I want to say that he claimed he spoke with someone in the organization, but I don't remember who. My brain might just be making that up too.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Ware wants defense to keep scoring
DeMarcus Ware chipped in two points of his own during Saturday's win and says the trend could continue into the regular season.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Ware-wants-defense-to-keep-scoring/4e63b2c9-e9a8-4e87-805e-72c158064402?utm_content=buffer04767&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

[Az Snake]

I'll just wait and watch the replay on the Network tomorrow.

That's what I had to do too Al.




Probably a good game for him to get a lot of reps. The 9ers pass rush isn't exactly dominant.

Some one forgot to tell Bowman that. I winced every time Peyton got sacked.




cj anderson is pretty good

Sure hope CJ can have a career year !!!





WATCH: Aqib Talib body slams Reggie Bush, skirmish ensues

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2015/08/30/watch-aqib-talib-body-slams-reggie-bush-skirmish-ensues/35212/

That was an awesome take down by Talib !!!





Ware wants defense to keep scoring
DeMarcus Ware chipped in two points of his own during Saturday's win and says the trend could continue into the regular season.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Ware-wants-defense-to-keep-scoring/4e63b2c9-e9a8-4e87-805e-72c158064402?utm_content=buffer04767&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

This Defense has the potential to score in many ways. Looking forward to a lot of turnovers this season !
Good to see Marshall and Trevathan in the mix.
I was amazed to see Danny out there at full speed !!!
I truly thought he would never see the field again.
He was flying his body everywhere !!!
Please stay healthy Danny !!!

I think this year's "D" will be more intimidating than ever and will hold the fort while the "O" catches up.



CJ, Norwood and Daniels were just some of the bright spots in the Broncos' Offense last night.
I wouldn't be throwing the towel in just yet on the "O".
The timing will develop faster than most think.
I think we will see it in the Ravens' game.

Evan Mathis coming in will be a big help on the left side.
DT is just getting back in shape after the hold out.
The whole team is learning a new playbook.
The "D" is way ahead of the "O" as usual in every preseason; true for just about every NFL team.
I'm not worried at all.

Brock showed some good moves this preseason and I'm confident he can step up if Peyton goes down.
I'll be so glad when preseason is over.
Can't wait for the Opener !!!

GO BRONCOS !!!

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Good to see you AZ.

[Simple Jaded]

The offensive line did not played horribly. The 5 up front did their jobs well. The sacks were due to RB's not picking up blitzes in the A gap.

Looked to me like Bowman MIGHT have been Paradis' responsibility on one of them, no way of knowing.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Looked to me like Bowman MIGHT have been Paradis' responsibility on one of them, no way of knowing.

I saw one where it looked like he should have released the Nose and picked up the blitz, but then the Nose would have had a clear path, and the RB probably would have wiffed that one too.

But I don't know if we're talking about the same play. The A gap was a problem the whole first half, and the 9ers probably knew it would be available after practicing with the Broncos.

[Simple Jaded]

I saw one where it looked like he should have released the Nose and picked up the blitz, but then the Nose would have had a clear path, and the RB probably would have wiffed that one too.

But I don't know if we're talking about the same play. The A gap was a problem the whole first half, and the 9ers probably knew it would be available after practicing with the Broncos.
That's how I remember it, trying remember if the NT was a duoble-team block with the LG though, if not then you wouldn't want Paradis to let NT go.

Also can't remember what drew Andersons attention outside, you'd think inside would be priority.

[GEM]

WATCH: Aqib Talib body slams Reggie Bush, skirmish ensues

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2015/08/30/watch-aqib-talib-body-slams-reggie-bush-skirmish-ensues/35212/

Mile High went nuts over that. :D

[Dapper Dan]

When's the replay on NFLN?

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

When's the replay on NFLN?

Lol, you're 24 hours past that.

[Dapper Dan]

Lol, you're 24 hours past that.

damn

[VonDoom]

damn

Looks like they're showing it again at midnight tonight. Set your DVR.

[Dapper Dan]

Looks like they're showing it again at midnight tonight. Set your DVR.

Midnight eastern time? I can watch at work.

[VonDoom]

Midnight eastern time? I can watch at work.

Yeah, sorry, Eastern. I just looked at the website, and I'm pretty sure all times are Eastern there

[Dapper Dan]

Yeah, sorry, Eastern. I just looked at the website, and I'm pretty sure all times are Eastern there

That's perfect. I'm on ET anyway.

[TXBRONC]

Looked to me like Bowman MIGHT have been Paradis' responsibility on one of them, no way of knowing.

Maybe but the backs still had blitz pick up responsibilities and they blew it.

[Simple Jaded]

Maybe but the backs still had blitz pick up responsibilities and they blew it.

Big Al said it was definitely the RB's fault.


















So it was definitely the OL's fault.

[Dapper Dan]

Nice fumble recovery by Duncan, then they cut him.

[Dapper Dan]

Navarro Bowman doesn't play like a guy who missed a year.

[Dapper Dan]

Yikes. Peyton missed that TD. Had to settle for a FG. Can't do that all year.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

What's it like talking to yourself in a game day thread?

It must be nice not listening to the whining .

[Dapper Dan]

Nice punt leading to a safety.

[Dapper Dan]

What's it like talking to yourself in a game day thread?

It must be nice not listening to the whining .

Well, I'm only talking to myself but at the same time I'm an ******* so I don't know how I feel about it.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Nice punt leading to a safety.

Nice plug for Colquitt.
:laugh:

[Dapper Dan]

Nice plug for Colquitt.
:laugh:

Oh, was that him?

[Dapper Dan]

Offense doesn't look very well. McManus is doing a great job.

[Dapper Dan]

Darius Kilgo has been a pleasant surprise.