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Northman
05-02-2015, 06:15 PM
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/5/2/8537295/top-nfl-undrafted-free-agents-nfl-draft-2015

http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2015/05/02/2015-nfl-draft-undrafted-free-agent-signings-tracker/



12. La’el Collins, 6’4 5/8, 308 pounds, OT, LSU


67. Ellis McCarthy, 6’5, 325 pounds, DT, UCLA


85. Kevin White, 5’9 3/8, 180 pounds, CB, TCU


96. Josue Matias, 6’6, 325 pounds, G, Florida State


100. Joey Mbu, 6'2 3/4, 315 pounds, DT, Houston


107. Cedric Reed, 6’5, 272 pounds, DE, Texas


109. Zack Hodges, 6'2 5/8, 242 pounds, OLB, Harvard


110. Cody Prewitt, 6’2 1/8, 212 pounds, S, Ole Miss


116. Jean Sifrin, 6’5 1/4, 245 pounds, TE, Massachusetts


129. Corey Crawford, 6’5 1/4, 283 pounds, DE, Clemson


131. Terry Williams, 6’1, 353 pounds, DT, East Carolina


135. Chris Hackett, 6'2, 195 pounds, S, TCU


136. Lynden Trail, 6'6 5/8, 269 pounds, OLB, Norfolk State


138. B.J. Finney, 6’3 3/4, 318 pounds, C, Kansas State


145. Josh Harper, 6’0 3/4, 189 pounds, WR, Fresno State


148. Reese Dismukes, 6’2 7/8, 295 pounds, C, Auburn


149. Sean Hickey, 6’5 3/4, 309 pounds, OT, Syracuse


152. Anthony Harris, 6’1, 183 pounds, S, Virginia


153. Xavier Williams, 6’2, 309 pounds, DT, Northern Iowa


155. Durell Eskridge, 6’2 7/8, 208 pounds, S, Syracuse


158. Deontay Greenberry, 6’3, 200 pounds, WR, Houston


160. Ladarius Gunter, 6’1 3/8, 200 pounds, CB, Miami


161. Jacoby Glenn, 6’0, 186 pounds, CB, Central Florida


163. Justin Coleman, 5'11, 184 pounds, CB, Tennessee


165. Jeff Luc, 5'11 3/4, 263 pounds, ILB, Cincinnati


166. Shane Carden, 6’1 7/8, 218 pounds, QB, East Carolina


174. Tony Washington, 6'3 5/8, 247 pounds, OLB, Oregon


175. Taiwan Jones, 6'2 1/4, 258 pounds, ILB, Michigan State


177. Antwan Goodley, 5’10 1/2, 210 pounds, WR, Baylor


180. Malcolm Brown, 5’11 5/8, 223 pounds, RB, Texas


182. Titus Davis, 6’0 3/4, 196 pounds, WR, Central Michigan


184. Louis Trinca-Pasat, 6'1 1/4, 291 pounds, DT, Iowa


186. Ray Drew, 6’5, 284 pounds, DE, Georgia


187. Wes Saxton, 6'3 7/8, 243 pounds, TE, South Alabama


189. Eric Lefeld, 6’6, 309 pounds, OT, Cincinnati


190. Kaleb Johnson, 6’4, 300 pounds, G, Rutgers


191. Mike Hull, 6'0, 237 pounds, ILB, Penn State


193. Troy Hill, 5’10 1/2, 182 pounds, CB, Oregon


194. Norkeithus Otis, 6'1, 235 pounds, OLB, North Carolina


196. Leon Orr, 6’4 7/8, 323 pounds, DT, Florida


197. James Vaughters, 6'1 7/8, 258 pounds, OLB, Stanford


198. Trey DePriest, 6’0, 254 pounds, ILB, Alabama


200. Rannell Hall, 6'0 3/8, 193 pounds, WR, Central Florida


202. Austin Hill, 6’2 3/8, 210 pounds, WR, Arizona


203. Deion Barnes, 6'3 7/8, 260 pounds, DE, Penn State


204. Deon Long, 6'0, 188 pounds, WR, Maryland


205. Dominique Brown, 6’2, 234 pounds, RB, Louisville


206. E.J. Bibbs, 6’2, 258 pounds, TE, Iowa State


207. Bryan Bennett, 6'3, 215 pounds, QB, Southeastern Louisiana


209. Thomas Rawls, 5’9, 215 pounds, RB, Central Michigan


212. Quinton Spain, 6’5, 332 pounds, G, West Virginia


213. Donald Celiscar, 5’10 7/8, 194 pounds, CB, Western Michigan


214. Kaleb Eulls, 6'4, 295 pounds, DT, Mississippi State


218. Terrence Magee, 5’9, 220 pounds, RB, LSU


220. Kurtis Drummond, 6’0 5/8, 205 pounds, S, Michigan State


222. Zach Vigil, 6’2, 240 pounds, ILB, Utah State


223. Garry Peters, 5’11 3/4, 191 pounds, CB, Clemson


224. Dres Anderson, 6’1, 187 pounds, WR, Utah


227. Chucky Hunter, 6'0 1/8, 298 pounds, DT, TCU


229. Connor Halliday, 6’3, 196 pounds, QB, Washington State


238. Derek Lott, 6’4, 314 pounds, DT, Tennessee-Chattanooga


239. Devante Davis, 6'3, 220 pounds, WR, UNLV


240. Blake Sims, 5'11 1/2, 218 pounds, QB, Alabama


242. Alani Fua, 6’5, 238 pounds, OLB, BYU


244. James Castleman, 6'2 3/4, 311 pounds, DT, Oklahoma State


247. Jermaine Whitehead, 5’11, 197 pounds, S, Auburn


248. Brandon Bridge, 6’4 3/8, 229 pounds, QB, South Alabama


249. DaVaris Daniels, 6'1 1/2, 203 pounds, WR, Notre Dame


252. Cam Worthy, 6’2, 211 pounds, WR, East Carolina


253. Nigel King, 6'3, 210 pounds, WR, Kansas


256. Darrian Miller, 6’5 1/8, 307 pounds, OT, Kentucky


258. Taylor Heinicke, 6'1, 211 pounds, QB, Old Dominion


260. Deshazor Everett, 6’0, 193 pounds, CB, Texas A&M


261. George Farmer, 6’1, 220 pounds, WR, Southern California


262. Travis Raciti, 6'5, 285 pounds, DE, San Jose State


263. Chris Bonner, 6’7, 225 pounds, QB, Colorado State Pueblo


264. Jermauria Rasco, 6’3 1/2, 259 pounds, DE, LSU


266. Nick Marshall, 6'1 1/2, 205 pounds, CB, Auburn


268. Ishaq Williams, 6'5 1/2, 271 pounds, OLB, Notre Dame


268. Justin Cox, 6’0 5/8, 191 pounds, S, Mississippi State


269. Braylon Heard, 5’9 5/8, 198 pounds, RB, Kentucky


270. Terrell Hartsfield, 6’3, 246 pounds, DE, Cincinnati


271. Casey Pierce, 6'3 1/2, 244 pounds, TE, Kent State


272. A.J. Tarpley, 6'0 1/4, 233 pounds, ILB, Stanford


273. Cam Thomas, 6'0 1/4, 195 pounds, CB, Western Kentucky


276. Thurston Armbrister, 6'3, 241 pounds, OLB, Miami


277. Trey Williams, 5’7 1/2, 195 pounds, RB, Texas A&M


278. Rob Crisp, 6’7, 301 pounds, OT, North Carolina State


280. Donatella Luckett, 5’11 3/4, 211 pounds, WR, Harding


281. Anthony Jefferson, 6’0 7/8, 198 pounds, CB, UCLA


282. Tyler Varga, 5’11, 222 pounds, FB, Yale


283. Christion Jones, 5’10 1/8, 182 pounds, WR, Alabama


284. Tevin McDonald, 5'11 1/4, 192 pounds, CB, Eastern Washington


285. Ryan Delaire, 6’4 1/8, 254 pounds, DE, Towson


286. Cody Riggs, 5’9, 185 pounds, CB, Notre Dame


287. Justin Manton, 6'2, 196 pounds, K/P, Louisiana Monroe


288. Terrance Plummer, 6’1, 236 pounds, ILB, Central Florida


289. Bobby Richardson, 6’3, 286 pounds, DT, Indiana


291. John Crockett, 5'11 3/4, 217 pounds, RB, North Dakota State


293. Davon Walls, 6’4 3/8, 301 pounds, DT, Lincoln


295. Devin Gardner, 6'4, 217 pounds, WR, Michigan


296. Hutson Mason, 6’2 1/8, 207 pounds, QB, Georgia


297. Jordan Taylor, 6'5, 210 pounds, WR, Rice


299. Gabe Martin, 6'2, 236 pounds, OLB, Bowling Green

chazoe60
05-02-2015, 06:19 PM
Wow! We signed a lot of guys. That's like three teams worth.

Northman
05-02-2015, 06:19 PM
Players i would like to look at:

12. La’el Collins, 6’4 5/8, 308 pounds, OT, LSU
149. Sean Hickey, 6’5 3/4, 309 pounds, OT, Syracuse
152. Anthony Harris, 6’1, 183 pounds, S, Virginia
175. Taiwan Jones, 6'2 1/4, 258 pounds, ILB, Michigan State
214. Kaleb Eulls, 6'4, 295 pounds, DT, Mississippi State
220. Kurtis Drummond, 6’0 5/8, 205 pounds, S, Michigan State
295. Devin Gardner, 6'4, 217 pounds, WR, Michigan

Lancane
05-02-2015, 06:19 PM
Hopefully Elway can bring in La'el Collins, Ellis McCarthy and Zach Hodges.

Northman
05-02-2015, 06:20 PM
Wow! We signed a lot of guys. That's like three teams worth.

No silly. Just who is available and who we end up signing.

chazoe60
05-02-2015, 06:21 PM
No silly. Just who is available and who we end up signing.

Sarcasm my friend.

CoachChaz
05-02-2015, 06:24 PM
Players i would like to look at:

12. La’el Collins, 6’4 5/8, 308 pounds, OT, LSU
149. Sean Hickey, 6’5 3/4, 309 pounds, OT, Syracuse
152. Anthony Harris, 6’1, 183 pounds, S, Virginia
175. Taiwan Jones, 6'2 1/4, 258 pounds, ILB, Michigan State
214. Kaleb Eulls, 6'4, 295 pounds, DT, Mississippi State
220. Kurtis Drummond, 6’0 5/8, 205 pounds, S, Michigan State
295. Devin Gardner, 6'4, 217 pounds, WR, Michigan

Harris signed with MINN...Jones with NYJ...Prewitt with TENN.

Simple Jaded
05-02-2015, 06:27 PM
Collins
Mancz
McCarthy
Prewitt
Anthony Harris
Malcolm Brown
Ray Drew
Chris Bonner
Brian Suite
Kevin Snyder
Tyrell Williams

Lancane
05-02-2015, 06:28 PM
If Denver could literally land La'el Collins via UDFA I would be less depressed about the Draft.

Northman
05-02-2015, 06:33 PM
Added a link for the team tracker in the original post.

Lancane
05-02-2015, 06:35 PM
So Denver has signed Matt Miller WR Boise State, but that is it so far.

CoachChaz
05-02-2015, 06:35 PM
Awesome. Signed a WR with an ankle injury

Northman
05-02-2015, 06:36 PM
Denver Broncos
Matt Miller, WR, Boise State

Northman
05-02-2015, 06:37 PM
Taiwan Jones is a Jet.

Northman
05-02-2015, 06:41 PM
Well, its not spectacular but it was cool that Seattle signed that 34 year old LS Boyer. Good story but not sure how he will pan out overall in the NFL.

Lancane
05-02-2015, 06:44 PM
Dolphins signed Vigil and three other Inside Linebackers.

Northman
05-02-2015, 06:45 PM
Ah man, i had forgotten about Byrd. Panthers just signed him.

Damiere Byrd, WR, South Carolina

BroncoWave
05-02-2015, 06:53 PM
We need to sign some more Tulane guys! :D

CoachChaz
05-02-2015, 06:54 PM
We need to sign some more Tulane guys! :D

3 in 2 years is enough

Northman
05-02-2015, 06:56 PM
Broncos added another LB

Denver Broncos
Zaire Anderson, OLB, Nebraska
Matt Miller, WR, Boise State

CoachChaz
05-02-2015, 06:56 PM
Add Zaire Anderson, LB, Nebraska and Dillon Day, C, Miss st.

BroncoWave
05-02-2015, 06:58 PM
Add Zaire Anderson, LB, Nebraska and Dillon Day, C, Miss st.

A Mississippi State guy too! Awesome! I don't know that Dillon Day will stick on in the league but he has a real nasty streak to him. I would love his attitude on our o-line.

Northman
05-02-2015, 06:59 PM
Patriots signed Gardner from Michigan.

CoachChaz
05-02-2015, 07:02 PM
Add Zaire Anderson, LB, Nebraska and Dillon Day, C, Miss st.

A Mississippi State guy too! Awesome! I don't know that Dillon Day will stick on in the league but he has a real nasty streak to him. I would love his attitude on our o-line.

Dude has been suspended twice for stomping on players. Yeah...great pickup

chazoe60
05-02-2015, 07:02 PM
Patriots signed Gardner from Michigan.

I think you misread that, most gardeners are from Mexico not Michigan.

Lancane
05-02-2015, 07:04 PM
LOL... Dillon Day was suspended for stepping on an Auburn player last year. Not a bad lineman, but he has an attitude.

chazoe60
05-02-2015, 07:05 PM
Dude has been suspended twice for stomping on players. Yeah...great pickup

Do we play the Dolphins this year? Maybe we brought him in just to block Suh. Those two could have a kickboxing match at midfield.

Northman
05-02-2015, 07:06 PM
Denver added OT Kyle Roberts from Nevada.

BroncoWave
05-02-2015, 07:07 PM
Dude has been suspended twice for stomping on players. Yeah...great pickup

Rather have someone who is dirty but actually is tough in the trenches than a softie. Now I don't think Day has much of a shot at making the team, but I don't really care about the stomping incidents.

Northman
05-02-2015, 07:08 PM
While i frown upon dirty players we did at one time have Romonowski who was dirty as they come.

Northman
05-02-2015, 07:09 PM
Its crazy that Collins is still out there. Wasnt he rated as a top 10 prospect?

Northman
05-02-2015, 07:10 PM
Hmmm Bears picked up Shane Carden from ECU. I didnt think he was too bad but i didnt catch a lot of his games. Cutler better be ready. lmao

Lancane
05-02-2015, 07:12 PM
I think La'el Collins is off the wine list for Denver.

G_Money
05-02-2015, 07:12 PM
Kyle Roberts is a backflipping snowboarder. He and Sambrailo can go hit the slopes together - or could, if their contracts wouldn't expressly forbid it. Apparently slope experience is a prerequisite to getting drafted as a tackle here. No wonder we stayed away from all those SEC guys. They couldn't meed our criteria.

G_Money
05-02-2015, 07:30 PM
Glad we kept up our "draft all the injured kids" motif with Matt Miller. I'm actually curious to see how he's healed, though - from what I remember from two seasons ago, he caught everything no matter how poorly it was thrown. 3rd down possession receivers are okay to find.

spikerman
05-02-2015, 07:31 PM
Sounds like a nasty disposition is a big factor this year. I like it.

OrangeHoof
05-02-2015, 07:36 PM
Dude has been suspended twice for stomping on players. Yeah...great pickup


That will come in handy if we play the Dolphins....

VonDoom
05-02-2015, 07:58 PM
According to the official website, these are the nine UDFA we came to terms with:

Zaire Anderson LB Nebraska
Kalon Davis OL Clemson
Dillon Day OL Mississippi St.
Matt Miller WR Boise St.
Chuka Ndulue NT Oklahoma
Connor Rains OL Wyoming
Kyle Roberts OL Nevada
Jordan Taylor WR Rice
Josh Watson DL Clemson

GEM
05-02-2015, 07:59 PM
LOL... Dillon Day was suspended for stepping on an Auburn player last year. Not a bad lineman, but he has an attitude.

We've all bitched at the softness of our players, maybe some mean and nasty can take the place of ***** mofo's.

GEM
05-02-2015, 08:02 PM
Collins said if he didn't go Friday he wouldn't sign with the team who drafted him and re-enter next years draft. Teams wouldn't take a chance after that.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
05-02-2015, 08:39 PM
Awesome. Signed a WR with an ankle injury

That happened a while ago. He should he fine now. I won't hold my breath about him making the roster though. He's a big guy with excellent hands, but not much speed. He's probably a 4.6 guy. I could see him making the ps however.

Denver Native (Carol)
05-02-2015, 09:16 PM
some things from article:


Making Collins less attractive in the draft was a vow to sit out the year and re-enter the draft in 2016, if he were drafted this year. Ultimately, that may have been a ploy aimed at ensuring he wasn’t drafted at all.

Ultimately, Collins can salvage the early portion of his career by signing the standard three-year deal as an undrafted rookie. While he’d be eligible for restricted free agency after three years, the numbers suggest that he’ll do fairly well, given the current amount and the historic growth of the restricted free agency tenders.

If the tenders continue to increase at a rate of five percent annually, Collins could make more than all drafted players except the top 41 picks, based on three years of minimum salaries and the first-round tender for 2018. With the second-round tender, he’ll make more than all but 52 of the picks. With the original-round tender, he’ll make more than all but 65 of the picks.

Also, and perhaps most importantly, Collins gets to pick his NFL team. No drafted player gets to do that.

full article - http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/02/collins-plans-to-sign-once-hes-cleared/

Simple Jaded
05-02-2015, 09:23 PM
I think La'el Collins is off the wine list for Denver.

Yep, too talented to fit the ZBS.

broncobuss
05-02-2015, 09:24 PM
Collins can't enter next year's draft. He can now only sign as an udfa.. even next year
His agent is dumb

Simple Jaded
05-02-2015, 09:31 PM
Lmao

Jordan Taylor, here come the Easy Ed comps.

CoachChaz
05-02-2015, 09:51 PM
Lmao

Jordan Taylor, here come the Easy Ed comps.

Thought that was Matt Miller's job.

Denver Native (Carol)
05-02-2015, 09:52 PM
Whether La'el Collins can enter the 2016 NFL Draft depends on the league's whims

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/5/2/8535609/lael-collins-nfl-draft-eligibility-2015-2016-murder-investigation

Simple Jaded
05-02-2015, 10:04 PM
Thought that was Matt Miller's job.

I think Miller will be moved to TE and resurrect the Desmond Clark/Byron Chaimberlain/Billy Miller/Jeb Putzier lineage of TE wanna-bes.

broncobuss
05-03-2015, 01:04 AM
Nfl not gonna let him enter the draft 2016

GETTHERE
05-03-2015, 01:28 AM
Hello Denver -- New to the board. Anyway not saying it was right but I would like to get it out there so all will know (or a few ) the whole story behind the stepping on the Auburn player. Yes I know it sounds bad and Dillon has been bashed about with the LSU deal the truth is that the Auburn player once Dillon took him down cleanly on a play and without any cause the Auburn player struck Dillon in the groin as he was coming up off the guy.
Not to say it was right but in the heat of the moment I think I know what a lot of Men would do under those circumstances. So yes it was a payback for a cheep and dirty shot. Yes in the replays or still shots it just shows Dillon with his foot on him, none show the player taking the cheep shot. Yes - it looks like Dillon was the only one at fault and he is the one that ends up with the bad reputation. So anyway not the smartest move for Dillon at the time but that is the way it is. The Media are very good at making a story. The Kid has great Character and the Team and Fans will find out soon what a hell of a player and Man they have. HailState -- Go Broncos!!

SoCalImport
05-03-2015, 01:33 AM
Hello Denver -- New to the board. Anyway not saying it was right but I would like to get it out there so all will know (or a few ) the whole story behind the stepping on the Auburn player. Yes I know it sounds bad and Dillon has been bashed about with the LSU deal the truth is that the Auburn player once Dillon took him down cleanly on a play and without any cause the Auburn player struck Dillon in the groin as he was coming up off the guy.
Not to say it was right but in the heat of the moment I think I know what a lot of Men would do under those circumstances. So yes it was a payback for a cheep and dirty shot. Yes in the replays or still shots it just shows Dillon with his foot on him, none show the player taking the cheep shot. Yes - it looks like Dillon was the only one at fault and he is the one that ends up with the bad reputation. So anyway not the smartest move for Dillon at the time but that is the way it is. The Media are very good at making a story. The Kid has great Character and the Team and Fans will find out soon what a hell of a player and Man they have. HailState -- Go Broncos!!

ALways good to get another perspective. Here's hoping He can contribute.

MOtorboat
05-03-2015, 01:55 AM
Hello Denver -- New to the board. Anyway not saying it was right but I would like to get it out there so all will know (or a few ) the whole story behind the stepping on the Auburn player. Yes I know it sounds bad and Dillon has been bashed about with the LSU deal the truth is that the Auburn player once Dillon took him down cleanly on a play and without any cause the Auburn player struck Dillon in the groin as he was coming up off the guy.
Not to say it was right but in the heat of the moment I think I know what a lot of Men would do under those circumstances. So yes it was a payback for a cheep and dirty shot. Yes in the replays or still shots it just shows Dillon with his foot on him, none show the player taking the cheep shot. Yes - it looks like Dillon was the only one at fault and he is the one that ends up with the bad reputation. So anyway not the smartest move for Dillon at the time but that is the way it is. The Media are very good at making a story. The Kid has great Character and the Team and Fans will find out soon what a hell of a player and Man they have. HailState -- Go Broncos!!

The media didn't make the story up. He stomped on a couple of kids when he lost his cool, regardless of how it happened. I'm sure the other team isn't innocent, they never are, but you can't lose your cool. That said, Denver obviously doesn't care and is taking a flyer on him. As a UDFA, he has a tough road ahead of him anyway. Hope he can contribute. This team badly needs offensive lineman.

Northman
05-03-2015, 08:54 AM
Collins said if he didn't go Friday he wouldn't sign with the team who drafted him and re-enter next years draft. Teams wouldn't take a chance after that.

I thought this too but then MO pointed out that in order for Collins to enter next years draft he had to be drafted this year and then DECLINE to sign with that team in order to re-enter next year. Its my understanding now that Collins is just a UDFA and cannot enter the draft again.

BroncoWave
05-03-2015, 09:36 AM
We've all bitched at the softness of our players, maybe some mean and nasty can take the place of ***** mofo's.

Exactly. Sometimes you need a dirty guy on the o-line or d-line. Kinda like your goon/enforcer in hockey. It seems like Day has too many guys ahead of him on the depth chart to make the team at this point, but I would LOVE to see him catch on.

BroncoWave
05-03-2015, 09:38 AM
Hello Denver -- New to the board. Anyway not saying it was right but I would like to get it out there so all will know (or a few ) the whole story behind the stepping on the Auburn player. Yes I know it sounds bad and Dillon has been bashed about with the LSU deal the truth is that the Auburn player once Dillon took him down cleanly on a play and without any cause the Auburn player struck Dillon in the groin as he was coming up off the guy.
Not to say it was right but in the heat of the moment I think I know what a lot of Men would do under those circumstances. So yes it was a payback for a cheep and dirty shot. Yes in the replays or still shots it just shows Dillon with his foot on him, none show the player taking the cheep shot. Yes - it looks like Dillon was the only one at fault and he is the one that ends up with the bad reputation. So anyway not the smartest move for Dillon at the time but that is the way it is. The Media are very good at making a story. The Kid has great Character and the Team and Fans will find out soon what a hell of a player and Man they have. HailState -- Go Broncos!!

Oh hey, another MSU fan! Welcome aboard! Hope you stick around.

GEM
05-03-2015, 09:55 AM
I want some mean and nasty in that locker room. That mentality of not wanting to go to Foxboro...**** that noise. Ever hear the likes of Stink saying some shit like that? How about Sharpe? **** no, because they weren't soft ass bitches. Playing down to the weak ass Colts to avoid a trip to Foxboro...just **** that chicken shit line of thinking...******* embarrassing. Those dudes must check their balls out with the equipment crew cause they didn't have them attached that day.

By the looks of draft picks...Elway seems to agree.

spikerman
05-03-2015, 09:58 AM
I want some mean and nasty in that locker room. That mentality of not wanting to go to Foxboro...**** that noise. Ever hear the likes of Stink saying some shit like that? How about Sharpe? **** no, because they weren't soft ass bitches. Playing down to the weak ass Colts to avoid a trip to Foxboro...just **** that chicken shit line of thinking...******* embarrassing. Those dudes must check their balls out with the equipment crew cause they didn't have them attached that day.

By the looks of draft picks...Elway seems to agree.
Only CJ didn't check his at the door.

GEM
05-03-2015, 10:00 AM
Only CJ didn't check his at the door.

You got that right, Spike! That effing run...he's all balls and everyone else bumbling around like they'd rather be sipping tea at some damn tea party.

DT looked like he wanted to play patty cake over there!

Slick
05-03-2015, 10:35 AM
I want some mean and nasty in that locker room. That mentality of not wanting to go to Foxboro...**** that noise. Ever hear the likes of Stink saying some shit like that? How about Sharpe? **** no, because they weren't soft ass bitches. Playing down to the weak ass Colts to avoid a trip to Foxboro...just **** that chicken shit line of thinking...******* embarrassing. Those dudes must check their balls out with the equipment crew cause they didn't have them attached that day.

By the looks of draft picks...Elway seems to agree.

Posts like this make me love you.

Cugel
05-03-2015, 11:16 AM
La’el Collins, 6’4 5/8, 308 pounds, OT, LSU. Obviously, if he's cleared in the murder investigation there are going to be a lot of teams interested in signing him for big bucks. Essentially, it's like being given an extra mid first round draft pick. A MUCH better RT prospect than Sambrailo. Hopefully, the Broncos will make an effort to sign him.

However, I'm betting Elway will give us a bunch of B.S. about how they "believe in Michael Schofield and Sambrailo". Yeah, well, even if you think that Schofield is going to be an adequate starter, (I'm skeptical) he's not a sure-fire first round pick.

I anticipate that Elway will give us excuses for not signing him though rather than making a play that would prove he's serious about winning the SB.

Edit: Apparently, it's going to be a complete cluster bomb, because teams are "limited in how much they can offer" him because he's an undrafted FA.


La'el Collins goes undrafted; not eligible for '16 draft

By Conor Orr
Around The NFL Writer
Published: May 2, 2015 at 06:42 p.m.
Updated: May 2, 2015 at 07:06 p.m.


Collins is scheduled to meet with Baton Rouge (Louisiana) police in connection with the shooting death of a 29-year-old pregnant woman, Brittany Mills. He is not a suspect in the case, and had a previous relationship with Mills. NFL Media's Albert Breer reported Collins will meet with authorities after the draft.

Collins' representatives had told clubs that Collins would refuse to sign with a team that drafted him outside the third round and that Collins would simply re-enter the draft in 2016. However, that is not an option according to NFL rules, NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported Saturday. Teams were wary of drafting Collins until they know more information. The opinion across football has been relatively simple: Wait until the investigation process runs its course.

Collins' case is unprecedented in part because of the timing and because of his talent on the field. His playing comparison to Maurkice Pouncey and a brutal display of power and body control on film made him a no-brainer for so many teams coming into the draft that were looking for help across their offensive line.

Marc Ross, the Giants' director of college scouting, summed the process up perfectly: "We thought about La'el the whole time, because he's sitting up there," he told reporters in East Rutherford, New Jersey, on Saturday. "But we were going to pass on that."

Collins will theoretically be available to sign as an undrafted free agent if he is cleared legally. But the amount that a team could pay him would be heavily limited by NFL rules governing undrafted free agents.

So for now, as we enter a white-knuckle period for player reps who are rapidly fielding calls for undrafted free agents, Collins' status remains a mystery.

NFL general managers were first informed about the situation on Tuesday, according to Rapoport. Included in the note to GMs was information that a woman Collins knew, Mills, was murdered. Mills was pregnant and the baby initially survived, but the infant died Friday, per Baton Rouge police. The police are now trying to determine parental responsibility. The note said that Collins had not contacted Mills since September.


I don't know how knowing paternity will help Collins though. If he's not the child's father does that rule him out as a suspect? No, because he could have thought that he was. If he was the child's father, does that rule him in or out? Maybe he was OK with that, maybe he wasn't.

Even if he's never indicted or accused of anything, the murder investigation is not going to exonerate him any time soon, and maybe not at all, in which case no NFL team would touch him with a barge pole. Not after Robert Kraft was forced to testify in district court in the Aaron Hernandez case. No owner will run the slightest risk of that happening to them.

GEM
05-03-2015, 12:08 PM
Posts like this make me love you.

:) The real scandal shouldn't have been the Pansies deflated footballs...it should have been the Broncos playing with no balls!

Northman
05-03-2015, 12:10 PM
:) The real scandal shouldn't have been the Pansies deflated footballs...it should have been the Broncos playing with no balls!

Great point.

LTC Pain
05-03-2015, 01:22 PM
Latest on La'el Collins. He may sign with a team soon as he's cleared by law enforcement. Maybe Monday evening at the earliest.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/10371/lael-collins

Spiritguy
05-04-2015, 01:06 PM
Sounds like Collins will have his choice of team to play for. The limitation of what the teams can pay him now will likely have everyone trying to get his attn. Will be interesting to see who he chooses. That is of course if he is cleared.

On another note. Of the 9 guys that were brought in as UDFA's who do you think will / could be the guy that makes it to the 53 this year? I don't know enough about them to even guess. :lol:

Zaire Anderson LB Nebraska
Kalon Davis OL Clemson
Dillon Day OL Mississippi St.
Matt Miller WR Boise St.
Chuka Ndulue NT Oklahoma
Connor Rains OL Wyoming
Kyle Roberts OL Nevada
Jordan Taylor WR Rice
Josh Watson DL Clemson

olathebroncofan
05-04-2015, 01:16 PM
Edit: Apparently, it's going to be a complete cluster bomb, because teams are "limited in how much they can offer" him because he's an undrafted FA.


Imagine if teams could pay what they wanted for free agency. Im sure there would be a lot of players willing to take that chance to play for a certain team or coach. We would hear stories like this all the time.

I hope dude's name is cleared though.

weazel
05-04-2015, 01:31 PM
Imagine if teams could pay what they wanted for free agency. Im sure there would be a lot of players willing to take that chance to play for a certain team or coach. We would hear stories like this all the time.

I hope dude's name is cleared though.

some teams will just offer him under the table money... some teams *cough Patriots*, don't care about consequences of breaking the rules.

G_Money
05-04-2015, 01:38 PM
Of the 9 guys that were brought in as UDFA's who do you think will / could be the guy that makes it to the 53 this year?

None of em - except we always get one, right?

Zaire is too small to play the Mike and too slow to play Will. I think he has a good shot to make it on to the practice squad anyway. :) The guy is a fighter.

Miller is too slow to be the outside receiver and not big enough to play TE. I'd like him to make the PS too because he just catches everything, and with proper body positioning he can be an inside possession receiver even if he'll never ever take the top off a defense.

Jordan Taylor is a "Catch Radius" guy but other than jump balls I never saw him do much on the field worth noting (didn't watch a lot of Rice). Hopefully he's got more in the tank than I think - he can make some spectacular plays tho. Maybe with some work on route running he could be something? Where's Rod Smith when you need to polish up a guy's fundamentals?

Rains is the right size to be a mobile OL for us, but I don't think he has the skills. Don't expect us to keep him.

I think Roberts is probably a little better than Rains, but not enough.

Josh Watson - underdog, Malik Jackson type perhaps. Kind of a tools pickup - we'll see if he can flash in camp.

Kalon Davis is a slooow, hulking interior monster (Orlando Frankin-esque) who wears creepy contacts to enhance his scare-factor (ooooh) but naturally had back surgery before the draft. Probably give him a medical year if we wanna keep him around, like we did for Q, in order to get a better look. Really bright guy though.

Dillon Day - tries to make up for poor technique with nasty attitude. Maybe we can get him some polish. We'll see how fast he learns, anyway.

Chuka Ndulue - looking for a Mitch Unrein career.

------------

I dunno - not feeling a lot of impact from any of those guys, but several have practice squad potential while we try to figure out if they can help us next year.

Spiritguy
05-04-2015, 02:34 PM
Would be a shame for the streak to come to an end. Hopefully someone will surprise us.

Simple Jaded
05-04-2015, 10:42 PM
La'el Collins, otherwise the streak is ovah.

VonDoom
05-05-2015, 01:05 PM
According to an ESPN update, the Broncos signed all of these guys along with one not mentioned here, Auburn CB Trovon Reed

G_Money
05-05-2015, 03:49 PM
I actually think Trovon Reed would have been interesting, and NFL.com has him as a Bronco, but the rest of the net has him as a Seahawk - including his own instagram it looks like. So not ours, unfortunately. Besides, we have no use for DBs that didn't go to Tulane.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEC3zrPWEAAWUbH.jpg

Denver Native (Carol)
05-05-2015, 04:17 PM
Jeff Legwold @Jeff_Legwold May 4

#Broncos will have a handful of tryout players at rookie minicamp this weekend, so now have a roster spot open if one catches their eye.

VonDoom
05-05-2015, 04:32 PM
I actually think Trovon Reed would have been interesting, and NFL.com has him as a Bronco, but the rest of the net has him as a Seahawk - including his own instagram it looks like. So not ours, unfortunately. Besides, we have no use for DBs that didn't go to Tulane.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEC3zrPWEAAWUbH.jpg

Well, that's odd. Thanks for the catch. ESPN did me wrong.

BroncoWave
05-05-2015, 05:07 PM
Besides, we have no use for DBs that didn't go to Tulane

Real Talk

underrated29
05-05-2015, 05:41 PM
I like Jordan Taylor. I have mocked him to us in the 7th a ton on Fanspeak. I bet he makes the team over Fowler, norwood and Burse.

G_Money
05-05-2015, 06:37 PM
Well, Norwood and Burse are small-ish punt returning types, who would be pushing Caldwell I would guess. Taylor, Miller and Fowler are not that, so their competition is more with each other. All three of the big guys need work with routes, blocking, etc. I think Taylor's speed helps him over Miller, and he and Fowler share "catch radius" status so he's definitely got a shot at being the last wideout off the bench.

Simple Jaded
05-06-2015, 08:51 PM
From the sounds of it Denver has no interest in Collins, which is depressing.

The Fatal Flaw has returned, apparently, dude is far too talented for this system.

Traveler
05-07-2015, 07:08 AM
From the sounds of it Denver has no interest in Collins, which is depressing.

The Fatal Flaw has returned, apparently, dude is far too talented for this system.

I really hate that crap of we can be just as good with less talented players.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
05-07-2015, 08:15 AM
We drafted offensive linemen in the second and fourth rounds. I don't think it's fair to say we don't value talent at those positions.

chazoe60
05-07-2015, 09:05 AM
Jaded = broken record

G_Money
05-07-2015, 10:40 AM
We drafted offensive linemen in the second and fourth rounds. I don't think it's fair to say we don't value talent at those positions.

Jaded's saying that Sambrailo was not the most talented tackle when we took him, and we took him for non-football-talent reasons (he's "athletic enough to play the ZBS"). La'el Collins would be better than Sambrailo. Sambrailo may just be a guard, and Schofield may not be a starting tackle in this league.

Taking talent that would be backups on other teams and penciling them in as starters on yours because your scheme can cover some of their weaknesses (in theory) is less smart than just taking great talent and further maximizing it with your badass blocking scheme.

Elway's championship teams weren't built around athletic-but-inferior linemen. Zimmerman wasn't just some dude who got coached up. It's okay to go for athletic-and-great. Nobody liked Sambrailo as much as we did. Maybe that's because he was in-state and we got to see a lot of him without traveling far, and we understand his potential impact better than other teams might. Maybe not.

I'm hoping the Broncos added a pair of Pro-Bowl level OL starters in this draft. But that projection takes some orange-colored glasses and some faith in a system that can make some questionable guys serviceable, but doesn't make a lot of Pro Bowlers out of guys who aren't already massively talented.

Kubes has only ever put two guys in the Pro Bowl who were drafted for his system, right? Duane Brown (first round talent) and Chris Myers (late round draftee who excels at the duties of C in this system).

Centers get drafted later. Finding a good system fit there is okay, and I'm hoping Garcia can be a good fit even though he's not exactly a Myers clone. Sambrailo is gonna have some work to do. I really hope the FO got that pick right, because if not we could be in a world of hurt.

OrangeHoof
05-07-2015, 11:05 AM
There were no Pro Bowl offensive lineman in Houston until Arian Foster was discovered. So where is Denver going to find their next undrafted superstar?

G_Money
05-07-2015, 11:13 AM
There were no Pro Bowl offensive lineman in Houston until Arian Foster was discovered. So where is Denver going to find their next undrafted superstar?

In theory, that's CJ. Or Juwan. Ball should be pretty darn good in this system and might finally start pulling his 2nd-round weight.

Our stable of backs doesn't worry me, really. It's running (and moreso PASSING) behind the OL consisting of:

- injury-slowed former All-Pro
- double-fisted Grocery Bagger
- laconic Movie Theater Attendant
- former All-Pro
- 24 Hour Liquor Mart Drive Thru Operator

That concerns me.

VonDoom
05-07-2015, 12:38 PM
Cowboys are apparently signing La'el Collins. Because who needs more O-line help than the Cowboys, amirite?

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 5m5 minutes ago

The #Cowboys are signing #LSU OL La’El Collins, source said.

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 3m3 minutes ago

The #Cowboys deal for #LSU OL La’El Collins is for 3 years, fully guaranteed, per source. (@NFLCharean had it first)

G_Money
05-07-2015, 12:49 PM
Yeah... that OL of theirs is getting back to their SB days of the 90s.

I wanted to sign La'el to significantly boost our talent level on the offensive front, the 'Boys sign him as an insurance policy. Adding strength to strength - that's the way the Seahawks made their defense work, and it's how the Cowboys want to work their OL out. We'll see how they do with the rest of their offense, but the trenches are never a bad place to start.

CoachChaz
05-07-2015, 01:22 PM
Cowboys are apparently signing La'el Collins. Because who needs more O-line help than the Cowboys, amirite?

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 5m5 minutes ago

The #Cowboys are signing #LSU OL La’El Collins, source said.

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 3m3 minutes ago

The #Cowboys deal for #LSU OL La’El Collins is for 3 years, fully guaranteed, per source. (@NFLCharean had it first)

LOL. Kind of a waste of a draft for the Cowboys. A CB whose performance doesnt live up to his measurables...an idiot DE that struggles to maintain his already low weight that they want to throw into a Tampa 2 defense...and now 2 OT's to sit on the bench.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
05-07-2015, 01:39 PM
Jaded's saying that Sambrailo was not the most talented tackle when we took him, and we took him for non-football-talent reasons (he's "athletic enough to play the ZBS"). La'el Collins would be better than Sambrailo. Sambrailo may just be a guard, and Schofield may not be a starting tackle in this league.

Taking talent that would be backups on other teams and penciling them in as starters on yours because your scheme can cover some of their weaknesses (in theory) is less smart than just taking great talent and further maximizing it with your badass blocking scheme.

Elway's championship teams weren't built around athletic-but-inferior linemen. Zimmerman wasn't just some dude who got coached up. It's okay to go for athletic-and-great. Nobody liked Sambrailo as much as we did. Maybe that's because he was in-state and we got to see a lot of him without traveling far, and we understand his potential impact better than other teams might. Maybe not.

I'm hoping the Broncos added a pair of Pro-Bowl level OL starters in this draft. But that projection takes some orange-colored glasses and some faith in a system that can make some questionable guys serviceable, but doesn't make a lot of Pro Bowlers out of guys who aren't already massively talented.

Kubes has only ever put two guys in the Pro Bowl who were drafted for his system, right? Duane Brown (first round talent) and Chris Myers (late round draftee who excels at the duties of C in this system).

Centers get drafted later. Finding a good system fit there is okay, and I'm hoping Garcia can be a good fit even though he's not exactly a Myers clone. Sambrailo is gonna have some work to do. I really hope the FO got that pick right, because if not we could be in a world of hurt.

Not everyone rates players the same. He is regarded as an athletic player who needs to add strength. That was the same thing said about Ryan Clady coming out of college. The guy has natural athleticism. It's a lot easier to add strength than natural athleticism. I personally won't be so quick to dismiss him as a system guy. I think they took him because of his ceiling.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
05-07-2015, 01:43 PM
LOL. Kind of a waste of a draft for the Cowboys. A CB whose performance doesnt live up to his measurables...an idiot DE that struggles to maintain his already low weight that they want to throw into a Tampa 2 defense...and now 2 OT's to sit on the bench.

I find it funny they think they don't need to upgrade RB. It's like having the german autobon for an offensive line and they say, "we don't need no race cars, we've got the autobon! A few honda civics will do just fine!"

CoachChaz
05-07-2015, 02:13 PM
I find it funny they think they don't need to upgrade RB. It's like having the german autobon for an offensive line and they say, "we don't need no race cars, we've got the autobon! A few honda civics will do just fine!"

The other thing to look at is that it seems to be rare that an entire offensive line replicates it's performance from one year to the next. What was the last OL that was a top 5 line for more than a year or maybe 2? That being said, the Colling and Green acquisitions might make more sense, but I think combining the expectations of that line with the lack of skill running behind it is going to force us to see more of the Tony Romo of old.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
05-07-2015, 02:39 PM
The other thing to look at is that it seems to be rare that an entire offensive line replicates it's performance from one year to the next. What was the last OL that was a top 5 line for more than a year or maybe 2? That being said, the Colling and Green acquisitions might make more sense, but I think combining the expectations of that line with the lack of skill running behind it is going to force us to see more of the Tony Romo of old.

They are also making a dangerous assumption that they will be able to catch lighting in a bottle with McFadden. He was one of the most dangerous running backs in the game, but that was a while ago.

G_Money
05-07-2015, 03:19 PM
Not everyone rates players the same. He is regarded as an athletic player who needs to add strength. That was the same thing said about Ryan Clady coming out of college. The guy has natural athleticism. It's a lot easier to add strength than natural athleticism. I personally won't be so quick to dismiss him as a system guy. I think they took him because of his ceiling.

That's what I'm hoping for: a raw player with a huge ceiling once he gets his technique refined and muscle built. Clady was an All-American though, and drafted 12th overall - I wouldn't whip out that comparison for Ty. If Sambrailo can get anywhere close to being a tackle like Clady or Duane Brown - both guys who fit this system AND were tremendous talents - I'll be ecstatic. If he can just do that on the right side, great!

I'm much more thinking Charles Brown - but again, we might just circumvent the issue by turning him into a G like Beadles, which I would think he'd be fine at.

It's just not what I'm hoping for from a 2nd round pick by a team in desperate need of a RT.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
05-07-2015, 05:19 PM
That's what I'm hoping for: a raw player with a huge ceiling once he gets his technique refined and muscle built. Clady was an All-American though, and drafted 12th overall - I wouldn't whip out that comparison for Ty. If Sambrailo can get anywhere close to being a tackle like Clady or Duane Brown - both guys who fit this system AND were tremendous talents - I'll be ecstatic. If he can just do that on the right side, great!

I'm much more thinking Charles Brown - but again, we might just circumvent the issue by turning him into a G like Beadles, which I would think he'd be fine at.

It's just not what I'm hoping for from a 2nd round pick by a team in desperate need of a RT.

He supposedly has good feet, so he might be best suited at RT where he can handle edge rushers, especially his first year, unless we want to see more of what we saw with Zane Beadles getting pushed on a sled back into the qb by larger DT's.

Forgive me, I probably used the Clady comparison too loosely. I know he's not Ryan Clady. I'm just saying he has a similar scouting report. Clady's scouting report stated he may have had the best feet in the draft class, so obviously he was a more highly regarded draft prospect.

Let's just hope we don't give up on him in a couple of years and then have someone else reap the rewards, like Tyler Polumbus.

Simple Jaded
05-07-2015, 10:53 PM
I really hate that crap of we can be just as good with less talented players.

That and the ridiculous notion that "fits the system" doesn't apply to the top lineman.

Simple Jaded
05-07-2015, 10:55 PM
Jaded = broken record

Chazoe = dead to me.

MOtorboat
05-11-2015, 12:20 PM
Matt Miller has been released, per Renck on Twitter.

@TroyRenck: #Broncos waive receiver Matt Miller. Was an undrafted guy

CoachChaz
05-11-2015, 12:43 PM
Matt Miller has been released, per Renck on Twitter.

@TroyRenck: #Broncos waive receiver Matt Miller. Was an undrafted guy

An injured receiver with lineman speed couldnt make the cut. Shocking

G_Money
05-11-2015, 12:52 PM
An injured receiver with lineman speed couldnt make the cut. Shocking

I don't mind them bringing him in. If he runs faster than he did a few months ago you can keep him around, and if not you cut him with no strings. Matt has a ranch to run, he'll be fine.

VonDoom
05-11-2015, 12:52 PM
Also waived - G Jon Halapio (signed to the PS in December):

Denver Broncos ‏@Broncos 12m12 minutes ago

OFFICIAL: #Broncos waive G Jon Halapio and WR Matt Miller.

Jeff Legwold ‏@Jeff_Legwold 9m9 minutes ago

Roster update....Broncos also waived undrafted rookie WR Matt Miller today...roster stands at 86. They have four available spots.

underrated29
05-11-2015, 12:58 PM
Where did my man Kurtis Drummond end up signing. I am so pissed we didn't get him as a udfa, let alone drafting him in the 7th.

G_Money
05-11-2015, 12:58 PM
Kalon Davis didn't pass the physical either, remember, so he's another undrafted in the wind. I thought they might have him spend a year on IR after his back surgery, but it looks like we didn't want any part of it. So that's one of those 4 available spots.

CoachChaz
05-11-2015, 01:00 PM
Where did my man Kurtis Drummond end up signing. I am so pissed we didn't get him as a udfa, let alone drafting him in the 7th.

Houston

underrated29
05-11-2015, 01:21 PM
Houton always gets the Safties I like.


Dj Swearinger, whom no one seems to like, including Houston themselves. (I still like him)
Drummond- My happy thoughts from this years draft.

BroncoWave
05-11-2015, 04:10 PM
Read the other day that Dillon Day got the biggest signing bonus all our UDFAs. Didn't realize there was really a discrepancy in UDFA signing bonus, but I guess so. I would really, really like to see him catch on and make an impact. His game does need work, but the attitude is exactly what our o-line needs.

Ziggy
05-11-2015, 06:52 PM
The Broncos will be able to sign free agents that were cut from other teams without compensatory pick implications starting tomorrow. I wonder if they have a few vets in mind that they are saving these roster spots for.

VonDoom
05-11-2015, 07:34 PM
The Broncos will be able to sign free agents that were cut from other teams without compensatory pick implications starting tomorrow. I wonder if they have a few vets in mind that they are saving these roster spots for.

Good point. I forgot they moved up the June 1 rule this year. Elway has been very careful playing the comp pick formula lately, so it's certainly possible this date was in his mind.

CoachChaz
05-12-2015, 12:04 PM
Houton always gets the Safties I like.


Dj Swearinger, whom no one seems to like, including Houston themselves. (I still like him)
Drummond- My happy thoughts from this years draft.

Well...he was just released, so you can keep hope alive

Valar Morghulis
05-12-2015, 12:29 PM
Well...he was just released, so you can keep hope alive

I still have not forgiven him for last off season

CoachChaz
05-12-2015, 12:35 PM
I still have not forgiven him for last off season

Some team will give him a chance, though. If he could cover ANYTHING, it might be worth a shot, but he's basically just a big hitter in the secondary

Valar Morghulis
05-12-2015, 12:35 PM
I still have not forgiven him for last off season

But he would add some more meaness to our D

CoachChaz
05-12-2015, 12:38 PM
But he would add some more meaness to our D

If he could tackle or cover ANYONE, that would be great. As it stands, a nasty disposition is all he brings to the table.

Simple Jaded
05-17-2015, 03:16 AM
Swearinger is a snatch.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
05-17-2015, 04:26 PM
The SS we have is much better than Swearinger.

FanInAZ
05-17-2015, 07:14 PM
I really hate that crap of we can be just as good with less talented players.


That and the ridiculous notion that "fits the system" doesn't apply to the top lineman.

I could be wrong, but its my understanding that the players that we are discussing in this thread are those with a 0.9% chance of making the opening day roster, & the players that have a 0.5% chance that they are bumping from the roster. If they do make the roster, they'll be sitting on the bench or on the PS waiting for us to get destroyed with injuries at their position.

Simple Jaded
05-18-2015, 12:13 AM
I could be wrong, but its my understanding that the players that we are discussing in this thread are those with a 0.9% chance of making the opening day roster, & the players that have a 0.5% chance that they are bumping from the roster. If they do make the roster, they'll be sitting on the bench or on the PS waiting for us to get destroyed with injuries at their position.

This thread is about undrafted free agents and my post was about an UDFA who would have had a 100% chance of starting at any one of 3 different positions on the OL. And, yes, that includes C, I refuse to accept the notion that there's anything on a football field that Gradkowski can do that Collins could not. . .other than getting beat like a rented mule.

BroncoWave
05-18-2015, 06:20 AM
This thread is about undrafted free agents and my post was about an UDFA who would have had a 100% chance of starting at any one of 3 different positions on the OL. And, yes, that includes C, I refuse to accept the notion that there's anything on a football field that Gradkowski can do that Collins could not. . .other than getting beat like a rented mule.

How do you know Denver did not try to go after Collins? Just because we are the Denver Broncos does not mean we can just magically get any player we want. Other teams were going after Collins as well.

FanInAZ
05-18-2015, 09:19 PM
This thread is about undrafted free agents and my post was about an UDFA who would have had a 100% chance of starting at any one of 3 different positions on the OL. And, yes, that includes C, I refuse to accept the notion that there's anything on a football field that Gradkowski can do that Collins could not. . .other than getting beat like a rented mule.

I probably did an over kill response to those, who might include the 2 members that I quoted in my post, who are to quick to assume that anyone who's drafted after the 4th round or so won't amount to much. You can tell them we took TD in the 7th, & Rod Smith was an UDFA, & it doesn't matter. Odds are what the odds are, so I tried to show that even those who will probably washout of the league in a year or 2 may be called on to step for a few games this season.

Simple Jaded
05-19-2015, 09:05 PM
How do you know Denver did not try to go after Collins? Just because we are the Denver Broncos does not mean we can just magically get any player we want. Other teams were going after Collins as well.

No, I agree, that post was about radio talk at the time saying the Broncos weren't in on Collins.

Rick
05-20-2015, 08:11 AM
Because we always tell the local media who we are looking at.

Simple Jaded
05-23-2015, 12:32 AM
Because we always tell the local media who we are looking at.

Because the media is always wrong.

Traveler
05-23-2015, 06:18 AM
I probably did an over kill response to those, who might include the 2 members that I quoted in my post, who are to quick to assume that anyone who's drafted after the 4th round or so won't amount to much. You can tell them we took TD in the 7th, & Rod Smith was an UDFA, & it doesn't matter. Odds are what the odds are, so I tried to show that even those who will probably washout of the league in a year or 2 may be called on to step for a few games this season.

Hey Fan,

My post you referenced took issue with the team supposedly believing they can still have great success with this scheme while drafting less talented players. In an earlier post,
G-Money expressed my sentiment much more clearly. Shanahan began to have the same point of view later in his tenure and look where it got him. FIRED! Immensely talented players will make and productive system great.