Showbox App...thank me later

[Ravage!!!]

Ok. If you have an android device, then do a google search on your phone webbrowser... NOT the App store... for Showbox app.

The website should be showboxappdownload.com/

Download the android app... install.... and enjoy HD movies on the fly that you can watch, OR download, and then thank me later. HD quality, the speed of the streaming is fantastic, and I use Chromcast to stream it my television. Yet one more way to avoid paying the cost of cable and/or satelite.

If not to replace, then it certainly is a FANTASTIC way of adding to your service. Basically, its netflix.... without the subscription. Great for MOVIES AND TV shows.

Applestore doesn't have it...and the showbox in the google store is different, so install from searching web. I haven't installed onto a computer, so I don't know about that, yet.

The app looks like a zoomed in "eye." Just so you k now you got the right one.

[weazel]

I will try this on my media PC tonight

[chazoe60]

It's porno right?

[weazel]

nope...

[Timmy!]

Just installed it my old moto ultra that's only running on WiFi to try it. Tried several movies, all work. Pretty sweet.

[Ravage!!!]

I will try this on my media PC tonight

Let me know how it is on PC.. I was a bit skeptical to try it there, but felt safer with the app. The app for my adroid...works perfectly. REALLY updated movies...and TONS of TV shows to select from. Pretty awesome.

[BroncoWave]

I don't know rav, I'm a little worried about taking your advice on products after Google wallet. :D

But seriously I'll give it a try tonight. Sounds pretty cool. How quickly are new shows put on there?

[OB]

BS (as an apple person) just BS

[Timmy!]

Looks like tonight I'm watching Interstellar, Wolf of Wall Street & newest Hobbit.....none of which are on any movie channels yet (I get every channel DTV has 4 free). Good find Ravage.

[Timmy!]

Hahaha....my girl is pissed cause her icrap won't support it. #andriodmasterrace

[Ravage!!!]

I don't know rav, I'm a little worried about taking your advice on products after Google wallet. :D

But seriously I'll give it a try tonight. Sounds pretty cool. How quickly are new shows put on there?

Big Hero 6, Mockingjay, Interstellar, and American Sniper are the top 4 on the list right now.

[BroncoJoe]

As a cable company employee, I object!

Honestly though - sounds great. I don't need it, but may tell my out of town/state daughters about it.

[Ravage!!!]

Fury, The Imitation Game, Unbroken, Boyhood, Gaurdians of Galaxy, Birdman are just a few more as I'm scrolling.

[Timmy!]

As a cable company employee, I object!

Honestly though - sounds great. I don't need it, but may tell my out of town/state daughters about it.

Its got stuff that's still in theaters Joe, (American Sniper) or are only available "on demand" (like Guardians of the Galaxy).

[Ravage!!!]

Its got stuff that's still in theaters Joe, (American Sniper) or are only available "on demand" (like Guardians of the Galaxy).

And in HD too!

Its nice, cause you can scroll through all the TV shows and movies... and just add to your favorites tab.

[BroncoJoe]

Its got stuff that's still in theaters Joe, (American Sniper) or are only available "on demand" (like Guardians of the Galaxy).

I can't imagine it lasting too long. At least for free. Sounds like pirated stuff, but clearly I could be wrong.

[Ravage!!!]

And in HD too!

Its nice, cause you can scroll through all the TV shows and movies... and just add to your favorites tab.

AND... you are taking a trip, you can DOWNLOAD the movies to watch later. So good for plane trips or keeping kids entertained while driving.

[Ravage!!!]

I can't imagine it lasting too long. At least for free. Sounds like pirated stuff, but clearly I could be wrong.

You never know. I've been using XBMC for years.

[BroncoJoe]

Call me strange, but I prefer to pay for my stuff. All these types of sites do is increase the price of the merchandise.

Do they throw in commercials or something? It sounds way to fishy to me.

[Ravage!!!]

Call me strange, but I prefer to pay for my stuff. All these types of sites do is increase the price of the merchandise.

Do they throw in commercials or something? It sounds way to fishy to me.

Not me.. I think cable is a rip off....especially their internet services. They choke it down so they can charge you more money to get more speed. Go to any other country, and the internet speed blows ours away because its not choked down to bleed the consumers. Pisses me off that I can go to mexico and get faster internet service than here.

So give me fishy, because I feel the cable companies are fishy.

[Timmy!]

I can't imagine it lasting too long. At least for free. Sounds like pirated stuff, but clearly I could be wrong.

Some quick research shows its been around for a year. I'd bet its hosted on a foreign server. There are adds (small ones on menu screen just like many free apps). I'm surprised at all the series it has too (not that I need them). Game of Thrones, etc.

[BroncoJoe]

Not me.. I think cable is a rip off....especially their internet services. They choke it down so they can charge you more money to get more speed. Go to any other country, and the internet speed blows ours away because its not choked down to bleed the consumers. Pisses me off that I can go to mexico and get faster internet service than here.

So give me fishy, because I feel the cable companies are fishy.

100% false.


Given that Akamai surveys 243 countries to produce its "State of the Internet" report, ninth place might not seem too low. U.S. Internet providers, after all, contend with a bigger landmass -- and a larger population -- than those in South Korea or Japan. And in real terms, the U.S. average connection speed improved in the interval between reports, becoming 27 percent faster than last year. It just wasn't enough to beat ever-speedier Sweden.

Mexico has higher speed internet? You're really off base here.

[DenBronx]

Not me.. I think cable is a rip off....especially their internet services. They choke it down so they can charge you more money to get more speed. Go to any other country, and the internet speed blows ours away because its not choked down to bleed the consumers. Pisses me off that I can go to mexico and get faster internet service than here.

So give me fishy, because I feel the cable companies are fishy.

100% false.


Given that Akamai surveys 243 countries to produce its "State of the Internet" report, ninth place might not seem too low. U.S. Internet providers, after all, contend with a bigger landmass -- and a larger population -- than those in South Korea or Japan. And in real terms, the U.S. average connection speed improved in the interval between reports, becoming 27 percent faster than last year. It just wasn't enough to beat ever-speedier Sweden.

Mexico has higher speed internet? You're really off base here.


Joe can you please explain the 100% false part? Ive been hearing the US is way slower than the European market.

[DenBronx]

If this works for Chromecast then it should also work for Roku player right? XBOX 1???

[BroncoWave]

Big Hero 6, Mockingjay, Interstellar, and American Sniper are the top 4 on the list right now.

What about tv shows? I don't really watch movies very often.

[weazel]

BS (as an apple person) just BS

pssst... moviebox

[DenBronx]

Just downloaded it. It's pretty sweet Rav! Thanks man!

[Ravage!!!]

What about tv shows? I don't really watch movies very often.

Tons... everything from netflix tv series, to showtime, to network.

[Ravage!!!]

If this works for Chromecast then it should also work for Roku player right? XBOX 1???

Great qustion Bronx... I don't know.

[Ravage!!!]

100% false.



Mexico has higher speed internet? You're really off base here.

Not from my experience. LIke I said.. the cable companies choke down your internet speed, forcing you to pay more for faster service. International locations do not. It's pretty amazing when you go overseas or mexico and find their internet service just ZOOMING...while you have to pay 100 bucks to get the fastest speeds available in the US.

I know you work for cable..and I'm not taking a shot at you....but the truth is, people are tryign EVERYTHING to get around the strangle hold that the cable companies have on us.

[DenBronx]

The have Sons of Anarchy the final season, Netflix and Hulu doesn't. Same with The Walking Dead. Everything is updated, current and not 2-3 years behind like Netflix.

[DenBronx]

So...on a scale of 1-10 how illegal is this exactly and should I hurry and watch the shows I like before it gets shut down? Lol

[OB]

Seriously. It's like Napster or something.

I want to get a droid just for this purpose.

[ShaneFalco]

comcast is the devil

[BroncoJoe]

Joe can you please explain the 100% false part? Ive been hearing the US is way slower than the European market.

Any other country? Do I really need to explain that?


Not from my experience. LIke I said.. the cable companies choke down your internet speed, forcing you to pay more for faster service. International locations do not. It's pretty amazing when you go overseas or mexico and find their internet service just ZOOMING...while you have to pay 100 bucks to get the fastest speeds available in the US.

I know you work for cable..and I'm not taking a shot at you....but the truth is, people are tryign EVERYTHING to get around the strangle hold that the cable companies have on us.

Mexico may have spots that are high speed. One thing I guarantee - the speeds in the US are slow because of DSL, not cable.


comcast is the devil

From you, I consider this a compliment.

[ShaneFalco]

From you, I consider this a compliment.

That company lies to me about what my bill will be constantly. They give me some triple play phone service when i dont even have a home phone, tell me its cheaper, then bill me an extra 20$ on the side.

Its not just me. America as a whole hates comcast.

[BroncoJoe]

That company lies to me about what my bill will be constantly. They give me some triple play phone service when i dont even have a home phone, tell me its cheaper, then bill me an extra 20$ on the side.

Its not just me. America as a whole hates comcast.

You have options. You don't have to stay with Comcast.

And, most people love Comcast. Squeaky wheel syndrome.

[ShaneFalco]

Joe.

Most people do not love Comcast.

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/surprise-twc-comcast-two-most-hated-companies-america-142559432.html

dont take it personal, i used to like Comcast. Until they started to charge me for extra shit i never needed.

[BroncoJoe]

Joe.

Most people do not love Comcast.

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/surprise-twc-comcast-two-most-hated-companies-america-142559432.html

That proves nothing. People that are dissatisfied are the ones that scream the most. You've heard of the squeaky wheel syndrome, right? What's your solution? Government intervention? That'll solve it, right Shane?

The three most complained about services? Cable, cell phone and insurance.

[OB]

Big Corps suck in general. Any company, regardless, who has a monopoly (even if it's the purple Baltic ave properties) has an advantage.

My only gripe is we really don't have a choice where I am (and I think it's like this for most) but from three companies (we don't have Comcast so I can't say if they suck or not) Cox, Direct and Dish. Those three know their competition so they all hover around the same, and IMO they all pretty much suck at customer service. And it's because business (big business) no longer cares about customer loyalty, their main goal is to get new customers. They treat them better than those of us who have been loyal for years and years.

[olathebroncofan]

I love comcast. Our only other options are consolidated communications formerly sure west and the suck, and satellite.

The only bad thing about comcast is that I started getting emails from them telling me that I was illegally downloading movies when I would get stuff off of the pirate bay. Consolidated communication never said anything.

Back to showbox, I have had it since November. The gal at the tmobile store told me about it. It's a great app. I finished the last two seasons of soa, and the100. Downloaded a bunch of kid movies fir my youngest so I could enjoy my oldest sons basketball games.

[Ravage!!!]

Mexico may have spots that are high speed. One thing I guarantee - the speeds in the US are slow because of DSL, not cable.

I'm saying the speeds in the US are slow when the cable company DECIDES they want them slow. They slow down your internet until you PAY to have faster internet. My company has three levels. So they CHOKE it down, keep it slow...on purpose... until people pay to have it faster. They have the ABILITY to give everyone faster internet, but they choose to limit the access unless you pay more moola.

I get it.. the american way. Screw the customers for as much money as you can. Cable companies...along with oil companies/insurance/phone companies... are well known for doing just that. Cable isn't the only one...but they certainly have free reign considering they basically have a monopoly on the market.

[DenBronx]

Only good thing about Comcast is their internet. 100 megs isnt bad at all.

[Ravage!!!]

So...on a scale of 1-10 how illegal is this exactly and should I hurry and watch the shows I like before it gets shut down? Lol

well.. its been up a year+. Just like many other streaming sites, I'm sure they are from over seas. So the US can't really shut them down. I've been running XBMC for a long time, and friends that have been using XBMC for years. This app is just easier than most of the streaming solutions I've run across. Doesn't get much easier than tapping on an app.

[BroncoJoe]

I'm saying the speeds in the US are slow when the cable company DECIDES they want them slow. They slow down your internet until you PAY to have faster internet. My company has three levels. So they CHOKE it down, keep it slow...on purpose... until people pay to have it faster. They have the ABILITY to give everyone faster internet, but they choose to limit the access unless you pay more moola.

I get it.. the american way. Screw the customers for as much money as you can. Cable companies...along with oil companies/insurance/phone companies... are well known for doing just that. Cable isn't the only one...but they certainly have free reign considering they basically have a monopoly on the market.

And a BMW should cost the same as a Ford, right? I'd love it if the price of a Mercedes was the same as a Hyundai! Sign me up for that!!!

Give me a break. If you offer a superior product, you should be compensated for it. Period. We offer different packages based on need and people's budget. Why on earth should we just give our superior services away at a discount?

As mentioned before, you have options. Go a head and get a DSL connection (even though they charge the same if not more for much slower speeds). Or, maybe you should go to NetZero dial up for $9.95/month.

Oh wait - you like to get things for free, and cause the price to go up for others. I forgot. Maybe you can steal the WiFi signal from one of your neighbors. That'll solve the problem.

[underrated29]

I run my business off of comcast. Aside from an occasional outage they have been rock solid and like 68% cheaper then what I was paying before. You can ask Joe, I was making a mortgage payment with my phone lines and internet and elvis dumervils (fax). Now I pay like $350 for everything.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I wonder if I would be able to use it on my smart tv?

Or is that what you were implying?

[DenBronx]

I run my business off of comcast. Aside from an occasional outage they have been rock solid and like 68% cheaper then what I was paying before. You can ask Joe, I was making a mortgage payment with my phone lines and internet and elvis dumervils (fax). Now I pay like $350 for everything.

$350 for internet, cell and home lines is still very high.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

$350 for internet, cell and home lines is still very high.

I believe he's referring to his business, not his home

[underrated29]

$350 for internet, cell and home lines is still very high.




Lol, my business. Not my house.

I have 12 lines, 4-5 of those 12 are toll free, 2 fax, Internet and 1 processing line. Believe me, there is nothing else out there that is reliable and cheaper. And if you know of some company please let me know.

[MasterShake]

This is similar to the Movie Box app for iPhone that runs through Cydia on jail broken phones. They run the movies off Russian servers/torrent sites so just be sure you are cool with that type of thing before installing. And of course never download the movies, they often have malware or trackers on them.

[chazoe60]

This is similar to the Movie Box app for iPhone that runs through Cydia on jail broken phones. They run the movies off Russian servers/torrent sites so just be sure you are cool with that type of thing before installing. And of course never download the movies, they often have malware or trackers on them.

What about downloading them to an old phone that doesn't have service anymore? I have an old Galaxy Note I was thinking about getting this app and downloading movies on to it to watch during those boring days at work when I'm stuck at a Substation with nothing to do for ten hours. Would the malware and shit even matter if the phone wasn't an active phone but just being used like an iPod?

[DenBronx]

$350 for internet, cell and home lines is still very high.




Lol, my business. Not my house.

I have 12 lines, 4-5 of those 12 are toll free, 2 fax, Internet and 1 processing line. Believe me, there is nothing else out there that is reliable and cheaper. And if you know of some company please let me know.

Ok I was thinking home and personal. Lol

[MasterShake]

What about downloading them to an old phone that doesn't have service anymore? I have an old Galaxy Note I was thinking about getting this app and downloading movies on to it to watch during those boring days at work when I'm stuck at a Substation with nothing to do for ten hours. Would the malware and shit even matter if the phone wasn't an active phone but just being used like an iPod?

Its more of the legal issue to be honest. Streaming is a gray area as far as copyright infringement, but when you download something you are basically taking that torrent file and putting it on your phone. Like I said earlier this is a judgment call on your own feelings on this, but I'd stay away from downloading incriminating evidence if Interpol ever gets those server records. People that download torrents use IP Masks and and anonymous VPN's for a reason. The reason streaming is a gray area is the the servers are often overseas (in this case Russia) so you are accessing the content to view. There are some arguments that "technically" streaming IS downloading. I'm just saying use caution. If it seems too good to be true and it is, it may be illegal.

[OrangeHoof]

Saw "Unbroken" which was released on Christmas Day. It had to stop for buffering a few times but otherwise a good show. Not bad for "free". Not a bad product. Doubt it lasts for long.

[Slick]

Just to clarify, the internet speeds here in Mexico are not very fast unless you live in Mexico DF. We have a mid tier package and we get 5 down 1 up.

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[Rick]

So...on a scale of 1-10 how illegal is this exactly and should I hurry and watch the shows I like before it gets shut down? Lol

Pretty damn but not sure they can come after you unless you download the movies.

There have been plenty of people taken to court and fined over illegal downloads and multitudes of free movie stream websites that the FBI has shut down and have arrested the website owners.

I am not standing on a high horse or anything, very possible I have visited some of the aforementioned sites...not saying one way or the other :) I also did NOT inhale or have sexual relations with that woman.

Just know when you use the app or visit the site and watch on PC, it is definitely not legal.

[MasterShake]

Pretty damn but not sure they can come after you unless you download the movies.

There have been plenty of people taken to court and fined over illegal downloads and multitudes of free movie stream websites that the FBI has shut down and have arrested the website owners.

I am not standing on a high horse or anything, very possible I have visited some of the aforementioned sites...not saying one way or the other :) I also did NOT inhale or have sexual relations with that woman.

Just know when you use the app or visit the site and watch on PC, it is definitely not legal.

Yeah, pretty much what I am getting at as well. We are kind of in a really strange era where the technology moves faster than laws but downloading the streams to keep on your device definitely falls under Copyright Infringement/Distribution laws that have been around for decades in advance of things like the VCR.

Also just from an entertainment standpoint the "in theater" movies on apps or websites like that... if they are good movies you should really try and experience those in the theater and pay for them, even if its a matinee. If you don't you can't complain when studios have to play it safe with sequels and prequels just to make money when good movies are out there right now losing money to piracy. Sorry I'll get off my soapbox, because I may or may not also inhale. :lol:

[Rick]

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[weazel]

well.. its been up a year+. Just like many other streaming sites, I'm sure they are from over seas. So the US can't really shut them down. I've been running XBMC for a long time, and friends that have been using XBMC for years. This app is just easier than most of the streaming solutions I've run across. Doesn't get much easier than tapping on an app.

I haven't had a chance to look at this yet but if its just one application it is way better than xbmc, configuration wise.

[OrangeHoof]

The only reason to pay for a movie in the theatre is if special effects is what you came to see or if you wanted to scare the shit out of your girlfriend so she would feel a need to grab you and get close to you. Otherwise, you're just paying for something you'll pay less for later if you just show some patience.

[Ravage!!!]

And a BMW should cost the same as a Ford, right? I'd love it if the price of a Mercedes was the same as a Hyundai! Sign me up for that!!!

Give me a break. If you offer a superior product, you should be compensated for it. Period. We offer different packages based on need and people's budget. Why on earth should we just give our superior services away at a discount?

As mentioned before, you have options. Go a head and get a DSL connection (even though they charge the same if not more for much slower speeds). Or, maybe you should go to NetZero dial up for $9.95/month.

Oh wait - you like to get things for free, and cause the price to go up for others. I forgot. Maybe you can steal the WiFi signal from one of your neighbors. That'll solve the problem.

I get that you are defensive on the product for the company you work for. Doesn't make your compan, or companies like yours, more well liked. People can see the difference in what is available and how they are treated. Cable companies have basically the monopoly for their area, and take advantage of that.

I don't steal cars because I think I should "Get it for free." Hardly. In fact, I would LOVE to pay for cable tv and would be glad to do it if I felt I wasn't being ripped off by the Mediacom. But, I don't. I know they choke down service. So I don't do service with them. jUst as I don't do service with phone companies that promise you unlimited data, but then choke down the data speed after reaching a certain number. It's BS, just like cable companies are.

Like I said. I get that you want to defend the company that feeds you, and I respect that. But cable companies are up there with oil companies and insurance as to the perception of how they rip people off. I'm sure you know this.

[weazel]

took a look tonight on PC using bluestacks... started a movie but couldnt get it full screen, tried another, can't seem to get full screen, is there a way? I'm not going to ask about the audio because streaming is horrible no matter what but xbmc can do full screen and has decent audio

[weazel]

so trying to watch an episode of Entourage and have got to about 12 minutes of it twice now and it comes up with "add a google account" ad in the middle that you cnat get past. Have to close down the app and start over.

[BroncoJoe]

I get that you are defensive on the product for the company you work for. Doesn't make your compan, or companies like yours, more well liked. People can see the difference in what is available and how they are treated. Cable companies have basically the monopoly for their area, and take advantage of that.

I don't steal cars because I think I should "Get it for free." Hardly. In fact, I would LOVE to pay for cable tv and would be glad to do it if I felt I wasn't being ripped off by the Mediacom. But, I don't. I know they choke down service. So I don't do service with them. jUst as I don't do service with phone companies that promise you unlimited data, but then choke down the data speed after reaching a certain number. It's BS, just like cable companies are.

Like I said. I get that you want to defend the company that feeds you, and I respect that. But cable companies are up there with oil companies and insurance as to the perception of how they rip people off. I'm sure you know this.

I can't speak for Mediacom, but can for Comcast. We do not choke down speeds, and in fact have increased our standard product to above 100 Mbps at no additional cost - at least in the area I work in. We also offer slower packages for those who don't stream or do heavy downloading - just simple web-surfing and email at a reduced price. We also offer mid-range service to 1,000's of low income families (last time I checked, the number was well above 7,000 in NM and CO) with internet service for $9.95/month.

I can't tell you how many people complain to me about their bill, etc. I take a look, and see they have multiple DVR's, order movies all the time and have a bunch of premium movie channels and sports packages. I can't help stupid people. We've upgraded our infrastructure to deliver the higher speeds, yet they're too lazy to have an upgraded modem sent (for free) that can handle those speeds, or don't want to schedule an appointment. Yep - they're probably complaining about our internet speed but are too lazy or stupid to do something about it - again for free.


The Verdict: 9.83/10 We have to admit, few can compete with Comcast. Comcast provides fast, consistent internet and continues to add new technologies and infrastructure to improve services.

http://isp-review.toptenreviews.com/comcast-review.html

Any big company is going to have rogue employees who hate their job, and that is reflected in their customer interaction. I can tell you that our #1 company wide objective for 2015 is to move or eliminate those disgruntled employees, and focus on improving our 94% customer satisfaction index. Yes, with over 19 million customers, we do have around 1,400,000 that aren't necessarily pleased with us. That leaves 17,600,000 that are satisfied.

[Timmy!]

Mods, please rename this thread to "Joe's Comcast thread." Tia.

[Slick]

I just browsed the Comcast website and looked at packages. 25 mbps for $40 a month including HBO? That's a great deal. I don't think you guys know how good you have it in the US.

We're paying $50 a month for a home land line with DSL and you guys saw my speeds.

[Slick]

XBMC hasn't been working very well for me lately. I installed a program called Popcorn Time which sounds a lot like what Ravage is describing here with the Showbox App. The Linux nerds designed it but I think it is now available for Windows users and Mac. It's been working okay.

I think my biggest problem is my internet speed. Netflix works fine, streams in 720p most of the time but if I try to stream anything in 1080 using anything other than Netflix, I run into trouble.

[tomjonesrocks]

XBMC has pretty much been a disappointment from go for me.

I have an adapted ready-installed Apple TV 2 - turns out it's got nowhere near the RAM needed. With every release they up the RAM requirement. I wound up downgrading and even so I can rarely finish a movie without a crash. Just totally inadequate hardware for this and unsure why that setup is popular. It blows.

Mash Up going away has really hurt also IMO. Yes there's Genesis and whatnot but I had visions of watching PPV MMA fights--the UFC has done an excellent job smashing the party and links are always unreliable with terrible resolution. SportsDevil is a complete letdown. For NFL games it would be completely unacceptable.

If it worked reliably enough for family movie night that would be something. But I barely use mine. As any sort of TV replacement its a total fail.

[weazel]

After trying this a few times and not being happy with the constant buffering I tried a different app that I had heard about before bur never tried, called PopcornTime. It streams much better than showbox and they basically have all the same stuff.

[Ravage!!!]

I've actually been having really good luck with the buffering, and surprisingly great results Chromcasting to my bigscreen.

BTW!!

If you want to chromecast to your TV, you have to use one version older than the newest. Here is the link. WHen you open the app and is asks you to update, simply hit "Ask Me Later"... you can udate the newest shows...but not the version. ALLCAST is the app from the appstore to use to chrome it over to your TV.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/tlnw2l27u8x6ep6/Show+Box_3.84.apk

[DenBronx]

I really wish one of these could be added to Roku.

[ShaneFalco]

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/hbo-go-blocked-on-ps4-by-comcast-just-like-on-ps3/1100-6425719/


HBO Go Blocked on PS4 by Comcast, Just Like on PS3

The idiots that run comcast are unbelievable.

DISH, Direct TV. All have done this, but the great and mighty comcast can not be bothered!

[DenBronx]

So I ordered an HDMI cable that runs from my cell to the TV. Instead of streaming on shobox I download the movies. I can fit 3 or 4 on my cell but only download 2 at a time. Instead of getting a choppy and laggy movie it comes out nice and smooth. But get to watch it on any TV with this new cable. Cost me $14 shipped from amazon.

[Pudge]

So I ordered an HDMI cable that runs from my cell to the TV. Instead of streaming on shobox I download the movies. I can fit 3 or 4 on my cell but only download 2 at a time. Instead of getting a choppy and laggy movie it comes out nice and smooth. But get to watch it on any TV with this new cable. Cost me $14 shipped from amazon.

How well does it work? I might order one as well.

I tried using the showbox app on my phone and it has a bunch of shit about earning points, am I on the right app?

[Ravage!!!]

So I ordered an HDMI cable that runs from my cell to the TV. Instead of streaming on shobox I download the movies. I can fit 3 or 4 on my cell but only download 2 at a time. Instead of getting a choppy and laggy movie it comes out nice and smooth. But get to watch it on any TV with this new cable. Cost me $14 shipped from amazon.

I'd be careful about downloading the movies from those apps, bro. Streaming is one thing, but downloading might, later on, come back to bite you in the ass. These streaming sites seem to be running on the "edge" as far as what is legal in the industry. By streaming, you aren't keeping, and thus, not making copies. But the moment you download it, that's a completely NEW story. I honestly, suggest you don't download and only stream.

[weazel]

Okay I have to make it clear as some don't understand... when you are streaming a movie you are IN FACT downloading it. Anything you will get while downloading, you will get while streaming... it is the same exact thing. The only difference is that while streaming, the downloaded file will automatically delete after you close the browser/app you are using to view it in.

Ravage, how do you think you are viewing the data if you aren't downloading the data to your computer?

[Ravage!!!]

Okay I have to make it clear as some don't understand... when you are streaming a movie you are IN FACT downloading it. Anything you will get while downloading, you will get while streaming... it is the same exact thing. The only difference is that while streaming, the downloaded file will automatically delete after you close the browser/app you are using to view it in.

Ravage, how do you think you are viewing the data if you aren't downloading the data to your computer?

That's interesting, but I guess I never thought about it like that because when you stream you can (sometimes) get gitches, freezes and/or "hiccups" while viewing as opposed to when you "download" something. So yes, I guess I understood that you were "downloading" small bits of info at a time, but basically viewing at the same rate as it was/is being streamed in. Which is why sometimes (depending on your internet speed or time of day) you have to buffer the stream so that you can view without a/the video freezing.

But when streaming you aren't downloading the complete and entire video at one time, right? You are 'downloading' bits, as you are viewing which is then being 'replaced' or deleted as the new data is being streamed in over the top...replacing... it? Thus at the end of the streaming, you don't have any of the video left....or perhaps just a very small bit of it left, correct?

All I know is, that they HIGHLY recommend that you don't choose to download the movie, saving it, to view later. Stream it, so that nothing is "downloaded" to your computer or phone.

[MasterShake]

Okay I have to make it clear as some don't understand... when you are streaming a movie you are IN FACT downloading it. Anything you will get while downloading, you will get while streaming... it is the same exact thing. The only difference is that while streaming, the downloaded file will automatically delete after you close the browser/app you are using to view it in.

Ravage, how do you think you are viewing the data if you aren't downloading the data to your computer?

You are downloading the data, but not directly to your computer. Do you have tons of youtube and Netflix videos saved on your hard drive? The data is being "downloaded" in the background and streamed directly to your media player (SilverLight, Quicktime, HTML5, etc). The file you stream is never applied to your hard drive as a copy you are just viewing the download through a stream.

That is the key difference right now and what the law is having a hard time keeping up with. When you download say a torrent or something you are accessing a copy of the media on your computer directly as a duplicate file. Streaming never actually gives you the duplicate file, you are just watching or listening to the stream of the file being downloaded via a player or other streaming service.

So yes they are both technically downloading, but for some reason it is much worse to keep a duplicate of the file than it is to simply stream and watch the download and never get a copy. From a legal standpoint you run much less of a risk from streaming than you do directly downloading a file.

There is a great Intellectual Property and Corporate Law article that explains it here. He uses the analogy of data being water and streaming being a shower and downloading being a bathtub. This is an excerpt:


At this point you might be saying, “So what Jordan? Download, stream – who cares? I still get to watch my movie.” Well, that might be true, but here’s the key difference from a legal perspective: in our simplistic model, when you stream, you don’t keep any data. And if you aren’t keeping any data, then you can’t redistribute that data. This therefore means that you only use the data for one simple purpose: consumption. From a content distributor’s perspective, this avoids some of the necessity of ensuring that you, the user, doesn’t redistribute the content or data in illegitimate ways. It simplifies the licensing requirements involved in providing content on a streaming basis. A license to stream, on the most simple terms, is simply a license to use the data as it passes through, with no right to sublicense, redistribute, store, amend, duplicate, change, or so on. You simply take it as it comes to you, much in the same way you take the water from the shower as it falls out of the spout.

http://www.nahmiaslaw.com/streaming-vs-downloading-whats-the-difference-legally-speaking/

In short it is all about the redistribution potential. They can go after the hosting sites for the streaming services, but you hardly every hear about them going after the people streaming the data.

[weazel]

actually you are downloading the entire movie to your hard drive... it is cached and then deleted once the movie is done. If you want you can actually save the movie from the cache if you would like. You don't have a ton of them on your drive because it deletes it after, but you can save it first if you like.

Them saying you're not keeping data just means it deletes the cache after a stream... it still downloads the entire file before deleting though. Thats why you can get plugins to save the cached data before it deletes it at the end.

Yes you are getting an entire duplicate of the file. Java and HTML5 streams are different than each other and can appear to hide the data on your drive, but you can get the full file from either if you know what you are doing.

[MasterShake]

actually you are downloading the entire movie to your hard drive... it is cached and then deleted once the movie is done. If you want you can actually save the movie from the cache if you would like. You don't have a ton of them on your drive because it deletes it after, but you can save it first if you like.

Them saying you're not keeping data just means it deletes the cache after a stream... it still downloads the entire file before deleting though. Thats why you can get plugins to save the cached data before it deletes it at the end.

Yes you are getting an entire duplicate of the file. Java and HTML5 streams are different than each other and can appear to hide the data on your drive, but you can get the full file from either if you know what you are doing.

That is only the data cache though. You still need to take an extra step to download the cache file to your hard drive. That is when you run into legal issues. You can only play streamed media from the source location via a web streaming device. Once you download the file or the cache you referred to then you can access it offline and watch it without an internet connection. The internet cache for the streaming is not stored on your hard drive unless you seek out the file and make a copy to your hard drive. If you get plugins to save the cached data before it is deleted than you are downloading the file instead of just streaming it.

For example you can only stream a file while online (if you lose your connection you lose the stream after the buffer wears out), but you can play a downloaded file anytime because it is being accessed from your hard drive. I think the shower/bath tub analogy is perfect there. If the streaming was actually saved to your physical memory and not just the media server cache we would all be screwed. Most smart phones that stream music and radio only have 16-32 gigs of physical memory and rely on streaming countless gigs over the course of time. If that was actually saved to your physical memory you would never have room for photos and mp3s.

[Pudge]

How well does it work? I might order one as well.

I tried using the showbox app on my phone and it has a bunch of shit about earning points, am I on the right app?

Bump

[OrangeHoof]

You're downloading to a temp file in your cache which gets deleted to make room for other media soon after. How else can you go back and rewatch a scene if it didn't store the data temporarily? However, there are ways to save the file if one knows what they are doing.

[MasterShake]

You're downloading to a temp file in your cache which gets deleted to make room for other media soon after. How else can you go back and rewatch a scene if it didn't store the data temporarily? However, there are ways to save the file if one knows what they are doing.

Yes I agree but the cache is a temp file, not a full file in your computers hard drive. All that data is being served to you remotely until you use a program to download it. Also you can rewatch a scene only if the cache still exists. If you turn off your internet while viewing a stream and skip ahead you lose ALL of the data because it is hosted elsewhere. Not until you download the cache do you actually become the host.

Damn I hate days without NFL football! :lol:

[Valar Morghulis]

Yes I agree but the cache is a temp file, not something in your computers hard drive. All that data is being served to you remotely until you use a program to download it. Damn I hate days without NFL football! :lol:

Does that mean the Fed's will never know about all that porn you stream..... Asking for a friend

[MasterShake]

Does that mean the Fed's will never know about all that porn you stream..... Asking for a friend

The only true way to hide porn history is to click "share on Facebook" on each video.

[weazel]

That is only the data cache though. You still need to take an extra step to download the cache file to your hard drive. That is when you run into legal issues. You can only play streamed media from the source location via a web streaming device. Once you download the file or the cache you referred to then you can access it offline and watch it without an internet connection. The internet cache for the streaming is not stored on your hard drive unless you seek out the file and make a copy to your hard drive. If you get plugins to save the cached data before it is deleted than you are downloading the file instead of just streaming it.

For example you can only stream a file while online (if you lose your connection you lose the stream after the buffer wears out), but you can play a downloaded file anytime because it is being accessed from your hard drive. I think the shower/bath tub analogy is perfect there. If the streaming was actually saved to your physical memory and not just the media server cache we would all be screwed. Most smart phones that stream music and radio only have 16-32 gigs of physical memory and rely on streaming countless gigs over the course of time. If that was actually saved to your physical memory you would never have room for photos and mp3s.

The file cache IS on your hard drive.

[weazel]

Yes I agree but the cache is a temp file, not a full file in your computers hard drive. All that data is being served to you remotely until you use a program to download it. Also you can rewatch a scene only if the cache still exists. If you turn off your internet while viewing a stream and skip ahead you lose ALL of the data because it is hosted elsewhere. Not until you download the cache do you actually become the host.

Damn I hate days without NFL football! :lol:

actually the cached file is the full file... the only time it is not is if you don't have enough room, then it removes data as it adds. But rest assured, if there is room for the entire file, it is there.

[BroncoJoe]

Two nerds duking it out over HD storage and streaming.

How could life get any better? !!

[MasterShake]

actually the cached file is the full file... the only time it is not is if you don't have enough room, then it removes data as it adds. But rest assured, if there is room for the entire file, it is there.

I think we are actually agreeing with each other. My point is the cache file is still just a cache and the point of that is to make it easier to access online for streaming purposes. Until you convert that cache file into a full file (like an MP3, MP4, etc) you will not be able to play it independently of the streaming services you are using. The cache can be a full file but one that is used to access the video or podcast or whatever from another device while online. When you are streaming a video you are playing it on your device but the file is stored on another device or media server and the cache just allows it to play seamlessly.

When you do a hard download of the video you are not relying on the host device to access the missing non cached data because it is stored on your hard drive and that is where the legal issue lies. That is all I am saying. Of course you are always downloading the file but streaming doesn't save the file (in a usable format) to your hard drive. A cache is not a usable file unless you have the full cache and convert it. I can go to chrome://cache/ on my browser and see MP3, MP4, HTML, JPG, etc but until I use a program to download that internet cache data (creating a full file to my Hard Drive) it is useless. Once I do that however I can watch it whenever I want or make copies and sell them. That is why Neflix and other services are like renting movies whereas downloading a movie is like buying a movie. The difference I am pointing out is that streaming, while technically downloading data, is not the same. You can't access a temporary internet cache file offline without relying on the host to play the file unless you download it.

And Joe, go to hell. :lol:

[weazel]

I refuse to agree with you now that Joe called us nerds

[MasterShake]

I refuse to agree with you now that Joe called us nerds

Yeah... I think I'm going to go to my room and "stream" some music now...

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u14/Kenobi1_bucket/putting-gun-to-head_zps9ygbe7ta.gif

[BroncoJoe]

Don't do it Shake!!!!

I'll give you a login for my Comcast account. You can do it legally!