Connor Barth is the Broncos new kicker [Archive]

VonDoom

11-25-2014, 03:50 PM

Interesting, wasnt he just playing this weekend for someone or am i thinking of someone else?

Barth hasn't played since 2012.

Also, he seemingly wasn't kicking off in his last two years, though the Broncos claim that he "looked good" doing that in their tryout.

Jon Heath ‏@JonHeathNFL 16m16 minutes ago

Of Connor Barth's 162 career kickoffs, only 11 have been touchbacks. Compare that to Brandon McManus, who has had 48-of-64 go for TBs.

VonDoom

11-25-2014, 03:50 PM

Was mcmannis cut, or just this guy added?

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McManus was waived to make room for Barth.

BroncoJoe

11-25-2014, 03:51 PM

Got a link MHC? I can't find anything.

EDIT:

Nevermind: http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_27010637/kicker-connor-barth-agrees-terms-broncos

Spiritguy

11-25-2014, 04:03 PM

Connor Barth (K) Workout at IMG Academy October 21, 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ77zt0GluA#t=68

crossing fingers.

VonDoom

11-25-2014, 04:09 PM

Says Klis:

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis 10m10 minutes ago

Connor Barth expected to handle kickoffs. Hasn't done it since 2010. He won't be as strong as Brandon McManus. But FG the priority

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis 8m8 minutes ago

Was told Jay Feely went 14-15 on field goal attempts during workout. Long of 60. Big factor: Barth is 28; Feely is 38.

HORSEPOWER 56

11-25-2014, 04:10 PM

Anyone who can say their name while vomiting is okay in my book...

FanInAZ

11-25-2014, 04:11 PM

Connor Barth (K) Workout at IMG Academy October 21, 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ77zt0GluA#t=68

crossing fingers.

It looked like he made a 61 yarder, what's the elevation of IMG Academy?

Denver Native (Carol)

11-25-2014, 04:13 PM

Mike Klis @MikeKlis · 11m

Was told Jay Feely went 14-15 on field goal attempts during workout. Long of 60. Big factor: Barth is 28; Feely is 38.

Mike Klis @MikeKlis · 13m 13 minutes ago

Connor Barth expected to handle kickoffs. Hasn't done it since 2010. He won't be as strong as Brandon McManus. But FG the priority

Mike Klis @MikeKlis · 28m

Was informed Connor Barth did NOT kickoff for Tampa Bay in 2012.

Mike Klis @MikeKlis · 36m

In 2012, Connor Barth's last season, TB had NFL-best 66.67 touchback rate. Barth was 10-11 FG att up to 39 yards; 12-13 from 40-49; 6-9 50+

Cugel

11-25-2014, 04:19 PM

Well, he's better than McManus. That's all we need. And if he flames out after a few games, they can always cut him and sign Jay Feely. It's not as if there are lots of teams who are stupid enough to cut their veteran kicker in the middle of the season so they need a kicker. :coffee:

Edmonton Bronco Fan

11-25-2014, 04:21 PM

Buff

11-25-2014, 04:22 PM

Kick it between the sticks, fella.

CrazyHorse

11-25-2014, 04:30 PM

I wish we kept McManus for punts/kickoffs and cut Colquitt instead. Makes more sense to me.

BroncoWave

11-25-2014, 04:42 PM

I wish we kept McManus for punts/kickoffs and cut Colquitt instead. Makes more sense to me.

We absolutely should have. McManus averaged 45 yards per punt in college. Colquitt is averaging 44 right now. Plus McManus is cheaper and could still kick off. Really don't get why we kept Colquitt over him.

Buff

11-25-2014, 04:46 PM

We absolutely should have. McManus averaged 45 yards per punt in college. Colquitt is averaging 44 right now. Plus McManus is cheaper and could still kick off. Really don't get why we kept Colquitt over him.

Was McManus really that above average on kickoffs? I genuinely don't know, but my impression of him was that he was fairly average. I know our touchback percentage is high, but we also play a mile above sea level. Venturing a guess, I'd say that we didn't really think of him as a sure-thing kickoff specialist; nor could we be certain that he'd seamlessly step into punting duties with zero experience at this level. We really don't have the benefit of time to try him out as punter for a while and see how that works out.

Timmy!

11-25-2014, 04:46 PM

*cough colquit is our holder cough*

BroncoWave

11-25-2014, 04:50 PM

Was McManus really that above average on kickoffs? I genuinely don't know, but my impression of him was that he was fairly average. I know our touchback percentage is high, but we also play a mile above sea level. Venturing a guess, I'd say that we didn't really think of him as a sure-thing kickoff specialist; nor could we be certain that he'd seamlessly step into punting duties with zero experience at this level. We really don't have the benefit of time to try him out as punter for a while and see how that works out.

I can't imagine there is a giant difference between punting at the pro and college levels. I don't claim to be an expert on the subject though.

Dzone

11-25-2014, 05:15 PM

Getting to kick at mile high has to be a dream come true for a kicker. Barth has the experience to get it done. Thats cool they cut mcmanus right after clanking one from 33 yards.

Denver Native (Carol)

11-25-2014, 05:27 PM

In the end, the Broncos decided they couldn't wait on Brandon McManus to snap out of his placekicking slump.

Tuesday, they opted for the veteran steadiness of Connor Barth, who last kicked in the regular season two years ago for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers before missing the 2013 season after tearing the Achilles tendon in his kicking leg before training camp.

Barth lost a preseason competition to Patrick Murray this summer, but left having re-established credentials that he set during his four seasons with the Bucs. He left Tampa Bay as the most accurate placekicker in club history, hitting 84.3 percent of his field-goal attempts in four seasons there.

rest - http://www.denverbroncos.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Barths-accuracy-gives-him-nod-over-McManus/6c2282e2-53af-4cbb-8135-8f27a8a46a43

Denver Native (Carol)

11-25-2014, 06:07 PM

from article:

The plan is for the Broncos to have Barth kick off, which he hasn't done since the 2010 season, when the tee was backed up to the 30-yard line. That year, Barth had just one touchback in 76 kickoffs.

In the next season of 2011, kickoffs were moved up to the 35-yard line and Tampa Bay brought in punter Michael Koenen, who arguably had the strongest kickoff leg in the league.

So the Broncos' kickoff coverage unit will be challenged the rest of the season. But the Broncos have given field goals a higher priority than kickoffs.

full article - http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_27010637/kicker-connor-barth-agrees-terms-broncos

VonDoom

11-25-2014, 06:43 PM

That article (at least, the updated version) says we signed Barth through 2016. I question that decision if he can't get touchbacks

I Eat Staples

11-25-2014, 06:54 PM

Don't know much about him but he's at least better than McManus. I hope he lights it up.

HORSEPOWER 56

11-25-2014, 07:02 PM

We'll know if it pays off the first time Barth has to win a game on a last second FG. Clutch kicks in big games (like the playoffs) are where kickers really earn their place on the team.

I can't help but think about the year we had both Haushka and Prater in the preseason. Haushka kicked better but we kept Prater because he had the stronger leg. I thought Haushka wouldn't be unemployed long and Seattle snapped him up right after final cuts. He's had a good career with them so far. Had we kept Haushka, he'd still be our kicker.

Tangerine

11-25-2014, 07:07 PM

That article (at least, the updated version) says we signed Barth through 2016. I question that decision if he can't get touchbacks

He's never kicked off from the 35, so nobody really knows. Something to keep in mind, in 2010 the year before the kickoff was moved, Matt Prater had 20 touchbacks, last year Prater's touchbacks quadrupled to 80.

The 5 yards has made a large difference for all kickers

OrangeHoof

11-25-2014, 07:13 PM

At altitude, he can probably be 5 yards better than at sea level but keep in mind that we still have games in KC, San Diego and Cincinnati.

MileHighCrew

11-25-2014, 07:18 PM

Hopefully he is the answer! GL new kicker

Ravage!!!

11-25-2014, 07:28 PM

I can't imagine there is a giant difference between punting at the pro and college levels. I don't claim to be an expert on the subject though.

If that were the case, then every team would simply hire the guy with the highest YPP average. That's not the case. Height and depth is much more important than just distance. Not to mention the ability to kick and keep it inside the 10 yrd line. Simply looking at the average punt distance isn't really seeing the whole package.

sneakers

11-25-2014, 07:31 PM

John Connor Barth Vader

Nomad

11-25-2014, 07:50 PM

Better wear your leatherneck, Barth.

Simple Jaded

11-25-2014, 11:15 PM

Btw, it was Manning missing a wide open Welker and taking a sack that led to the final nail in McManus coffin, the NFL is a bitch.

JPPT1974

11-25-2014, 11:41 PM

Wishing Brandon the best of luck and welcome to Connor B!

BroncoWave

11-25-2014, 11:46 PM

If that were the case, then every team would simply hire the guy with the highest YPP average. That's not the case. Height and depth is much more important than just distance. Not to mention the ability to kick and keep it inside the 10 yrd line. Simply looking at the average punt distance isn't really seeing the whole package.

Even if McManus sucks as a punter, Colquitt has sucked this year too, but McManus is at least cheaper and can still do kickoffs. If Colquitt were still the same guy who got that big contract, I wouldn't be suggesting this.

Timmy!

11-26-2014, 02:20 AM

Even if McManus sucks as a punter, Colquitt has sucked this year too, but McManus is at least cheaper and can still do kickoffs. If Colquitt were still the same guy who got that big contract, I wouldn't be suggesting this.

Colquitt doesn't suck...and again....holder.......buuuuuuuuut thats not accounting for the I know better than the FO forum factor.

Pudge

11-26-2014, 02:23 AM

Colquitt doesn't suck...and again....holder.......buuuuuuuuut thats not accounting for the I know better than the FO forum factor.

I was thinking of starting a petition on change org to get btb in the front office. As much as he says he knows he should be able to whip us into shape just in time for the playoffs

Timmy!

11-26-2014, 02:26 AM

I was thinking of starting a petition on change org to get btb in the front office. As much as he says he knows he should be able to whip us into shape just in time for the playoffs

Cause, you know, having a guy who has never punted in the NFL punt and do kickoffs, just cause yay touchbacks, and firing your proven top 10 punter, who has been the holder for 5 or so years (soooooo replaceable) is fool proof....right?

Dapper Dan

11-26-2014, 02:43 AM

Colquitt doesn't suck. You know who sucks? The guy that just got cut.

I've always liked Conner Barth. I think he will do well enough. It will be nice to have FG as an option.

Dapper Dan

11-26-2014, 02:44 AM

He's never kicked off from the 35, so nobody really knows. Something to keep in mind, in 2010 the year before the kickoff was moved, Matt Prater had 20 touchbacks, last year Prater's touchbacks quadrupled to 80.

The 5 yards has made a large difference for all kickers

This guy in here dropping knowledge. I thought it was a good point.

Dapper Dan

11-26-2014, 02:51 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7alyMHbP30

I Eat Staples

11-26-2014, 02:54 AM

Colquitt has been pretty awful this year. It's a shame, because he looked like one of the best punters in the league at one point.

Dapper Dan

11-26-2014, 02:57 AM

MOtorboat

11-26-2014, 04:03 AM

Colquitt's stats are pretty much middle of the road. I haven't seen him play awful on the field either. I'm not sure where all of this is coming from. If he were as bad as some suggested, we would be getting a new punter, just like we got a new kicker.

Colquitt is only allowing 8.6 yards per return and has 18 kicks inside the 20 with just one touchback. He's doing just fine.

Timmy!

11-26-2014, 04:11 AM

Colquitt is only allowing 8.6 yards per return and has 18 kicks inside the 20 with just one touchback. He's doing just fine.

McManus!!!

Joel

11-26-2014, 08:43 AM

Not the ideal placekicker but at this point of the season our options were severely limited. No way McManus could stay on another week; inevitable decision. Hopefully Barth just does his job, he's fairly accurate which is good.
Pretty much my take: Had to be done, and accuracy trumps power for placekickers (especially in Mile Highs thins air.) McManus is practically an object lesson on that.

I'd still rather have Ruglands accuracy AND power, but realize that was probably never going to happen; his bad luck to be a lefty, I guess.

Joel

11-26-2014, 08:50 AM

Colquitt's stats are pretty much middle of the road. I haven't seen him play awful on the field either. I'm not sure where all of this is coming from. If he were as bad as some suggested, we would be getting a new punter, just like we got a new kicker.
This one mystifies me, too; Colquitts critics must point out specifically what they're seeing, because I CAN'T see it.

Colquitt is only allowing 8.6 yards per return and has 18 kicks inside the 20 with just one touchback. He's doing just fine.
When I watch our games, it seems like Colquitt has a LOT of punts inside the opponents 20; I don't know what more one can ask from a punter.

ForgettingBrandonMarshall

11-26-2014, 08:55 AM

Pudge

11-26-2014, 09:20 AM

I thought he played pretty bad in the Rams game.

The whole team played bad, and the thing that stuck out most to you was our punting wasn't phenomenal?

OrangeHoof

11-26-2014, 11:16 AM

If Barth does just as poorly, Denver fans can bring "Barth Bags (tm)" to the stadium. Clear, plastic ones, of course.

Nomad

11-26-2014, 11:23 AM

If Barth does just as poorly, Denver fans can bring "Barth Bags (tm)" to the stadium. Clear, plastic ones, of course.

That's why I made my comment....it's cut throat in BRONCOland.

Ziggy

11-26-2014, 11:34 AM

This one mystifies me, too; Colquitts critics must point out specifically what they're seeing, because I CAN'T see it.

When I watch our games, it seems like Colquitt has a LOT of punts inside the opponents 20; I don't know what more one can ask from a punter.

Colquitt is average at best. Unfortunately, he has the contract of an elite punter, which he's not. He's 23rd in the NFL in gross average, and that's kicking mostly in altitude and good weather. The opposing team's punters have outkicked him in 7 out of the 11 games this year. As pitiful as that is, it's still an improvement over last season. If you want to factor in kicks inside the 20, the opposing punters have more in head to head matchups. Special teams as a whole in Denver are as sloppy as a soup sandwich. I still think Jeff Rodgers has pictures of Elway in compromising positions.

tbjoe

11-26-2014, 11:39 AM

"The Denver Broncos have run out of patience in Brandon McManus.

McManus was waived and will be replaced by veteran kicker Connor Barth, the team announced Tuesday.

McManus struggled with consistency after taking over for Matt Prater, who was released at the conclusion of his four-game suspension for violating the league's substance-abuse policy. McManus missed a 33-yard attempt in Sunday's win over the Miami Dolphins and was just nine of 13 (69.2 percent) in 11 games.

Barth is a five-year veteran who spent the past four seasons with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He missed all of the 2013 season after suffering a torn Achilles tendon while playing in a charity basketball game. In his last active season (2012), Barth went 28 of 33 (84.8 percent), missing just one of 13 attempts between 40-and-49 yards. He also made six of nine kicks from 50 yards and

So, in other words, Barth only missed two FG's under 50 the last season he kicked in the NFL. And he was kicking at what I can only assume is close to sea level, not 5,000+ft. I'll take it.

Also, Colquitt is fine. You don't just switch out your holder with a new kicker. It's an incredibly important part of the process and Colquitt is very good at it.

11-26-2014, 12:45 PM

This guy in here dropping knowledge. I thought it was a good point.

Am I the only one that thinks his user name is funny :lol:

BroncoWave

11-26-2014, 12:50 PM

Colquitt doesn't suck...and again....holder.......buuuuuuuuut thats not accounting for the I know better than the FO forum factor.

Sorry, I forgot we're not allowed to give opinions on roster moves on this board if we aren't front office members. Noted for future reference

Mike

11-26-2014, 12:55 PM

Colquitt has not been worth the money Denver pays him. Punting isn't something you can tell everything based on numbers. He has been very meh for the last few years. I am surprised that he has defenders here.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor

11-26-2014, 01:16 PM

Am I the only one that thinks his user name is funny :lol:

I didn't think about it until you pointed it out. He's a naughty guy.

Dapper Dan

11-26-2014, 01:49 PM

Colquitt barely has a top 10 salary as compared to other punters. He gets a little more than Bubba Caldwell.

Dapper Dan

11-26-2014, 01:49 PM

Sorry, I forgot we're not allowed to give opinions on roster moves on this board if we aren't front office members. Noted for future reference

Boohoo

OrangeHoof

11-26-2014, 01:52 PM

I have seen plenty of rookie punters wash out in the NFL and you wonder why. What could be different between punting in the NFL and punting in college? Speed of play, for one. But mostly, the pros want kickers who can get the ball high enough for the return team to get into position to cover any possible return. Distance isn't the chief requirement. It's preventing long returns.

Denver Native (Carol)

11-26-2014, 04:48 PM

Andrew Mason @MaseDenver · 49m

Connor Barth says of his post-Achilles tear leg strength, "hopefully, it's stronger" because of the rehab work he put int.

Andrew Mason @MaseDenver · 51m

Barth, on workouts: "All I really need is a light pole to kick at. If I can hit a light pole, I can usually put it (through) the uprights."

Andrew Mason @MaseDenver · 52m

Connor Barth kept in shape by kicking at IMG Academy, his high school, &, on one occasion, he kicked "at a light pole on an open field."

Valar Morghulis

11-26-2014, 04:57 PM

what is a light pole

Valar Morghulis

11-26-2014, 05:05 PM

sounds like something mike hawk might talk about

Denver Native (Carol)

11-26-2014, 05:12 PM

Vic Lombardi @VicLombardi · 2h

Barth just dropped the old reliable: "I'm taking it one kick at a time"

Vic Lombardi @VicLombardi · 2h

Connor Barth calls Jason Elam an idol. It's why he chose number-one as his jersey. "Hopefully he's okay with it".

Ravage!!!

11-26-2014, 05:42 PM

what is a light pole

I'm not sure if you are serious with this question, but considering you are from across the pond, t maybe its just a difference in vocabulary?

A light pole is a pole that has electricity run to it, so that it can power lights.

Valar Morghulis

11-26-2014, 05:44 PM

I'm not sure if you are serious with this question, but considering you are from across the pond, t maybe its just a difference in vocabulary?

A light pole is a pole that has electricity run to it, so that it can power lights.

Oh, Like the lights at a stadium. We call them "flood lights"

Ravage!!!

11-26-2014, 05:48 PM

Oh, Like the lights at a stadium. We call them "flood lights"

Yeah, the lights themselves is what we call flood lights. The pole they sit on is the light pole.

However, I'm guessing that there wasn't a pole large enough to hole flood lights in the middle of the field that Barth was refering to. Most probably, an old pole that used to harbor some old street light or something simple.

dogfish

11-26-2014, 05:51 PM

what is a light pole

come on, dave, you can deductively reason this one out!

it's a street light, mate, not a flood light. . .

Valar Morghulis

11-26-2014, 05:53 PM

come on, dave, you can deductively reason this one out!

it's a street light, mate, not a flood light. . .

Lol, so what the fvck is he doing with a street light

Valar Morghulis

11-26-2014, 05:55 PM

Lol, so what the fvck is he doing with a street light

Kicking AT it?

Denver Native (Carol)

11-26-2014, 06:05 PM

from article:

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- The newest Denver Broncos player took part in his first practice with the expectation that he'd fix the team’s kicking game.

Connor Barth, signed Tuesday after a workout at the Broncos’ suburban complex, took part in his first practice Wednesday and is expected to be the Broncos kicker the rest of the way in whatever becomes of this season. He is the third place-kicker to hold the job since training camp opened.

AND

“Went with the experience,’’ said Broncos coach John Fox. “Connor brings some of that. That position in this league is very tough first time around, I’ll just say that. Brandon’s got a future in this league he just needs to go back and work on his swing, so to speak, I think he’ll be back."

full article - http://espn.go.com/blog/denver-broncos/post/_/id/10270/connor-barth-ready-to-take-his-turn-as-broncos-kicker

Joel

11-26-2014, 06:14 PM

Lol, so what the fvck is he doing with a street light
This discussion of poles keeps flirting with more than just disaster....

Joker56

11-26-2014, 07:11 PM

So now we have a Veteran kicker .....
We won't have to score TD's anymore ?
See how that's gonna turn out......
Good luck Barth.....

Denver Native (Carol)

11-26-2014, 08:01 PM

Andrew Mason retweeted
Jason Elam @Jason_Elam · 1h

Thanks for all the support @Broncos fans. I think Connor Barth will solidify the position. He'll be great! I wish him all the best.

Dapper Dan

11-26-2014, 08:14 PM

Andrew Mason retweeted
Jason Elam @Jason_Elam · 1h

Thanks for all the support @Broncos fans. I think Connor Barth will solidify the position. He'll be great! I wish him all the best.

Haha. Finally a former Bronco with some good words.

Simple Jaded

11-26-2014, 08:14 PM

This guy in here dropping knowledge. I thought it was a good point.

Mike Hawk has a point.

Dapper Dan

11-26-2014, 08:17 PM

And it looks like Jaded just won the internet.

Simple Jaded

11-26-2014, 08:30 PM

What'd I win? Please be an Electric Sex lamp?

Dapper Dan

11-26-2014, 08:36 PM

What'd I win? Please be an Electric Sex lamp?

Joel's new book, a bottle of Wave's tears, and a bag of Lord Chronic's special oregano.

FanInAZ

11-26-2014, 09:27 PM

...and a bag of Lord Chronic's special oregano.

Just don't send him too much. There's a big difference in possession & possession with the intent to sell. Even if he isn't caught selling, just the amount on him could lead law enforcement to jump to erroneous conclusions. :nod:

Simple Jaded

11-26-2014, 09:38 PM

Joel's new book, a bottle of Wave's tears, and a bag of Lord Chronic's special oregano.

Cool, I gotta 4 day weekend.

Simple Jaded

11-26-2014, 09:42 PM

Just don't send him too much. There's a big difference in possession & possession with the intent to sell. Even if he isn't caught selling, just the amount on him could lead law enforcement to jump to erroneous conclusions. :nod:
It's ok, Chron is my lawyer.

ForgettingBrandonMarshall

11-27-2014, 01:25 AM

The whole team played bad, and the thing that stuck out most to you was our punting wasn't phenomenal?

I don't recall saying that it was the only thing that stuck out most to me.

Ziggy

11-27-2014, 03:08 AM

Colquitt barely has a top 10 salary as compared to other punters. He gets a little more than Bubba Caldwell.

He's the 8th highest paid punter in the NFL at 2 mill.

http://www.spotrac.com/rankings/nfl/punter/

Dapper Dan

11-27-2014, 03:33 AM

He's the 8th highest paid punter in the NFL at 2 mill.

http://www.spotrac.com/rankings/nfl/punter/

Yep. I know

BroncoWave

11-27-2014, 06:28 PM

Joel's new book, a bottle of Wave's tears, and a bag of Lord Chronic's special oregano.

I didn't realize that suggesting a roster move qualified as "tears". I do find it funny how up in arms people are getting about whom I think our punter should be though.

Dapper Dan

11-27-2014, 06:36 PM

I didn't realize that suggesting a roster move qualified as "tears". I do find it funny how up in arms people are getting about whom I think our punter should be though.

Maybe you should ask permission before you suggest who our punter should be.