Jay Feely to visit Broncos for kicking audition Tuesday

[Denver Native (Carol)]

The Broncos are bringing in Jay Feely for a workout Tuesday, according to two NFL sources.

It's hardly a surprise given the inconsistency of Broncos first-year kicker Brandon McManus. With the Broncos on the short list of Super Bowl contenders, they could use a kicker with experience in crunch time.

McManus missed a 33-yard field-goal attempt Sunday in the Broncos' 39-36 victory against Miami and he ranks 31st among the 31 kickers ranked with a 69.2 field-goal percentage (nine-of-13).

Feely, 38, has kicked in 13 NFL seasons for five teams, most recently last season with the Arizona Cardinals.

The Broncos also will work out a second veteran kicker. Among the veterans available are Alex Henery, Garrett Hartley, Connor Barth, John Potter and Nate Kaeding.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_27003627/kicker-jay-feely-workout-broncos-tuesday

[weazel]

hmmm, imagine that.

[Northman]

Feeeeeely, nothing more than Feeeeeeely.

[Cugel]

If they hadn't totally screwed the pooch by cutting Prater they wouldn't be auditioning kickers in the 12th week of the season. :coffee:

[DenBronx]

This move makes sense. Mc-Anus has sucked ass and was given a full shot. Time to move on from this mistake.

[Northman]

If Feely does take over and miss a kick the meltdown will be hilarious on here.

[Cugel]

This move makes sense. Mc-Anus has sucked ass and was given a full shot. Time to move on from this mistake.

No question about that. It's just painful. WTF are they doing cutting their veteran kicker in the middle of the season? The time to cut him is AFTER the season when he's due a big pay-day.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Prater's stats with Detroit - 6 games played, 16 field goals attempted, 12 field goals made

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/...22/matt-prater

[Buff]

I cut Elway some slack because our drunk kicker sort of forced his hand... You can't be a highly paid kicker and get suspended and put the team at risk. That said, I'd be interested to know ultimately what caused them to move on from Prater. Was it the fear that he was an ongoing team cancer drinking when he shouldn't be? Was it a money thing?

Hindsight is 20/20, but this move has obviously blown up in our face. Time to move on to anyone not named McManus.

[BroncoJoe]

No question about that. It's just painful. WTF are they doing cutting their veteran kicker in the middle of the season? The time to cut him is AFTER the season when he's due a big pay-day.

Well, first of all he was on a suspension and not playing - it's not like they said "see ya" while he was on the roster or playing for that matter. Second, he was already making pretty big money for a kicker.

[BroncoJoe]

Prater's stats with Detroit - 6 games played, 16 field goals attempted, 12 field goals made

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/...22/matt-prater

A MASSIVE 5 percentage points higher than McManus.

[OB]

I cut Elway some slack because our drunk kicker sort of forced his hand... You can't be a highly paid kicker and get suspended and put the team at risk. That said, I'd be interested to know ultimately what caused them to move on from Prater. Was it the fear that he was an ongoing team cancer drinking when he shouldn't be? Was it a money thing?

Hindsight is 20/20, but this move has obviously blown up in our face. Time to move on to anyone not named McManus.


My thoughts exactly (scary huh ;) )

[Nomad]

The exaggeration is thick in here.:lol:

[Buff]

Can we dig up the graphic that the CBS guy made that showed Feely single handedly beating us in 2010?

[Timmy!]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_00M0dtKxfiI/TQZkglGtFTI/AAAAAAAAAyY/ie6c6fk3CCw/s1600/Jay%2BFeely.jpg

[Buff]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_00M0dtKxfiI/TQZkglGtFTI/AAAAAAAAAyY/ie6c6fk3CCw/s1600/Jay%2BFeely.jpg

Perfect! Sign him up!

[Northman]

Looks almost like the score from the St. Louis game, only we actually had a QB this year. lmao

[BroncoWave]

Just another reason elway is the best. You can always count on him to make the right move. I was really pulling for McManus to work out, but it just wasn't happening. It's too bad you don't get points for hitting the upright. He would have been the best kicker in the league.

[Nomad]

If Feely does take over and miss a kick the meltdown will be hilarious on here.

Yep! Look at the patience fans have with a first year kicker, and the expectations for Feely are going to be through the roof for Feely, especially going off that 2010 game. Be careful, Jay, BRONCOland can be cut throat.:lol:

[VonDoom]

My only concern with Feely is power. At least McManus could get touchbacks. As someone said (I believe on here), the thought of kickoffs landing at the 10 yard line with our special teams is worrisome.

[Northman]

My only concern with Feely is power. At least McManus could get touchbacks. As someone said (I believe on here), the thought of kickoffs landing at the 10 yard line with our special teams is worrisome.

Oh god, i forgot about all that. Is Feely that bad with touchbacks? Our ST's coverage has issues as it is.

[Dzone]

The exaggeration is thick in here.:lol:
Mc-anus is the worst kicker in the history of football. He is beyond terrible. I can kick better than him.
Is that chick kicker from CU available?

[Denver Native (Carol)]

from article:


Money

Jeff Legwold ✔ @Jeff_Legwold

Prater's release saves #Broncos $3.25 million off '15 salary cap -- Prater had one year left on deal will be $812,500 dead money next year.12:18 PM - 3 Oct 2014

Prater was owed over $4 million in 2015, and he was already set to be one of the highest paid Broncos in 2014 at a pricetag of $3 million (just behind T.J. Ward and just above Terrance Knighton). Was Prater worth that much? No. He was always a little overpaid

Risk

Of course, the Broncos never would have released Prater if he hadn't been suspended in the first place. It is our understanding that Prater is still one sip of alcohol away from at least a one-year ban. As GM, John Elway has to weigh risks vs. reward, and the risk of Prater slipping again just couldn't be justified.

Performance

Let's pause for a minute and remember that Matt Prater hasn't made a clutch, long, game-winning kick in awhile - his only game-winner in 2013 was from 28 yards against Dallas, and I could have made that (okay, Stefan Fatsis could have made that). He missed a field goal in the 2012 playoff game that ended in a Broncos loss to the Ravens - remember that?

Furthermore, his execution in the preseason and training camp this year merited pause. Prater didn't look great in camp by most accounts (I was there and remember thinking he seemed off); that was compounded by his misses in the preseason during Week 3. Prater later admitted that his looming suspension affected his play during that game and presumably training camp, but that begs the question:

Is that really something you want your kicker to admit?

full article - http://www.milehighreport.com/2014/10/3/6905605/matt-prater-released-five-reasons-the-broncos-kicker-was-cut

[Dzone]

Prater saying he was mentally distracted in he preseason was reason enough to launch him. Just admitting to that shows he aint all there

[Buff]

Mc-anus is the worst kicker in the history of football. He is beyond terrible. I can kick better than him.
Is that chick kicker from CU available?

Katie was not only a girl, she was terrible. OK? There's no other way to say it. :D

[Mike]

I don't give a crap about Prater. I just want a kicker who can be relied on to kick between the uprights. McManus ain't that guy. Next up.

[Nomad]

Mc-anus is the worst kicker in the history of football. He is beyond terrible. I can kick better than him.
Is that chick kicker from CU available?

You proved my point:lol:. McManus is on par as an average first year kicker, and is not terrible. I get we have a small window of opportunity, and don't have time or patience to let McManus figure it out. I hope Jay works out, so the BRONCOS can focus on the defense and mental mistakes by the offense.

[MOtorboat]

I'm not a huge fan of Feely, but McManus has to go.

[CrazyHorse]

My only concern with Feely is power. At least McManus could get touchbacks. As someone said (I believe on here), the thought of kickoffs landing at the 10 yard line with our special teams is worrisome.

With a career long of 61 yards 2 years ago I don't think that should be much of an issue.

[jhildebrand]

Are we going to keep McManus for kickoffs? Because his kick offs on the road have been stellar especially in the 2nd half. Prater's 2nd half kick offs were almost always poor.

I don't think Feeley will be a huge step up. IIRC, he had some accuracy issues last season and before. There is a reason he is currently available.

[HORSEPOWER 56]

NFL Network is saying Connor Barth is the other guy we're bringing in for a look. Wasn't Kaeding pretty good for SD? Is he just too old?

[MOtorboat]

Are we going to keep McManus for kickoffs? Because his kick offs on the road have been stellar especially in the 2nd half. Prater's 2nd half kick offs were almost always poor.

I don't think Feeley will be a huge step up. IIRC, he had some accuracy issues last season and before. There is a reason he is currently available.

One too many cold ones during halftime.

[Buff]

NFL Network is saying Connor Barth is the other guy we're bringing in for a look. Wasn't Kaeding pretty good for SD? Is he just too old?

Kaeding retired due to recurring injuries in his kicking leg.

[ShaneFalco]

i spent my whole week being banned working to become an elite fg kicker. Feely you dont stand a chance when Elway gives me a shot!

[BroncoWave]

I'd cut Colquitt and keep McManus on to punt and kickoff. That would also be useful because McManus could come on to try a long fg in an emergency situation if we needed it.

[Nomad]

I'd cut Colquitt and keep McManus on to punt and kickoff. That would also be useful because McManus could come on to try a long fg in an emergency situation if we needed it.

Can McManus punt?

[CrazyHorse]

Can McManus punt?

Yes, he would be cheaper than Colquitt too. Keeping him to punt and adding another kicker would be an ideal situation.

[VonDoom]

I'd cut Colquitt and keep McManus on to punt and kickoff. That would also be useful because McManus could come on to try a long fg in an emergency situation if we needed it.

I suggested that in another thread. Works for me! Doesn't McAfee do that for the Colts?

[BroncoJoe]

Hi guys:

I'm meeting with John Elway later today and will relay your thoughts.

:coffee:

[Nomad]

Yes, he would be cheaper than Colquitt too. Keeping him to punt and adding another kicker would be an ideal situation.

He could continue to develop as a PK. Perhaps the veteran kicker, who comes in, can give McManus some advice/pointers on how to fix his issues.

[jhildebrand]

I think Elway has been hesitant because the lost pick that went the Giants for McManus. The guy will get it. I hope they find a way to work through things with him even if another kicker comes in short term.

[BroncoWave]

Hi guys:

I'm meeting with John Elway later today and will relay your thoughts.

:coffee:

Can you have him fire whomever relays challenge decisions to Fox while you are at it?

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Feely has been with 5 teams, and it appears he had descent stats, so why has he bounced around so much?

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/2548/jay-feely

[HORSEPOWER 56]

Feely has been with 5 teams, and it appears he had descent stats, so why has he bounced around so much?

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/2548/jay-feely

Happens with a lot of kickers. They're like rentals because when they have a good year and are looking for a payday, it's usually more cost effective just to let them walk than pay them premium $. Many teams see them as a dime a dozen, but that's mostly teams without playoff aspirations.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Working out Feely and Barth, though, does not mean the Broncos will necessarily make a move with McManus.

"We work out guys every week," said Broncos coach John Fox. "We don't bring in guys to cut guys. We bring in guys to look at them."

full article - http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_27003627/kicker-jay-feely-workout-broncos-tuesday

[MOtorboat]

Happens with a lot of kickers. They're like rentals because when they have a good year and are looking for a payday, it's usually more cost effective just to let them walk than pay them premium $. Many teams see them as a dime a dozen, but that's mostly teams without playoff aspirations.

His leg strength is also kinda iffy. 56 percent from 50+ (Prater is 75 percent).

He's also outspoken...nobody likes a mouthy kicker.

[MOtorboat]

He's a good Twitter follow, though.

[Dzone]

So Mcmanus is another Kluwe? No thanks!

[MOtorboat]

So Mcmanus is another Kluwe? No thanks!

I was talking about Feely. But I believe his politics line up with yours. Fwiw.

[Dzone]

Why does fox have to parse words and say they dont bring guys in to replace anyone but that they bring people in all the time. Come on. For once I would like to see Fox say "Yes, we brought in some guys to see if they can replace our shitty kicker"

[Dzone]

I was talking about Feely. But I believe his politics line up with yours. Fwiw.
So its alright if a kicker is outspoken as long as it is in line with your pro gay agenda? Figures.

[MOtorboat]

So its alright if a kicker is outspoken as long as it is in line with your pro gay agenda? Figures.

No. I don't really like Kluwe, either. Good grief, take a leap in logic much?

[Joker56]

RK PLAYER TEAM FGM FGA PCT LNG 1-19 20-29 30-39 40-49 50+ XPM XPA PCT
31 Brandon McManus, PK DEN 9 13 69.2 44 0-0 5-5 2-3 2-3 0-2 41 41 100.0
NFL Team Kickoff Touchback Percentage
Rank Team 2014 Last 3 Last 1 Home Away 2013
1 Carolina 78.00% 90.91% 75.00% 78.57% 77.27% 77.65%
2 Indianapolis 76.71% 75.00% 100.00% 77.78% 75.68% 44.55%
3 Denver 75.00% 64.71% 71.43% 89.74% 52.00% 71.54%
4 Detroit 74.47% 66.67% 75.00% 79.17% 69.57% 53.57%
So far McManus has better % for touchbacks than Prater did last year.

[dogfish]

man, some of you guys place waaay too much importance on touchbacks. . .

i mean, sure, it's better to get them than not get them. . . the next time they award any points for one will be the first, though. . . field goals win and lose games every week-- field position doesn't, barring extreme cases. . .

reliability on field goals >>>>> getting touchbacks on kick-offs

[MOtorboat]

man, some of you guys place waaay too much importance on touchbacks. . .

i mean, sure, it's better to get them than not get them. . . the next time they award any points for one will be the first, though. . . field goals win and lose games every week-- field position doesn't, barring extreme cases. . .

reliability on field goals >>>>> getting touchbacks on kick-offs

Canada.

[dogfish]

Canada.

twelve?

[Ravage!!!]

man, some of you guys place waaay too much importance on touchbacks. . .

i mean, sure, it's better to get them than not get them. . . the next time they award any points for one will be the first, though. . . field goals win and lose games every week-- field position doesn't, barring extreme cases. . .

reliability on field goals >>>>> getting touchbacks on kick-offs

Yes and no, df. Special teams returns wins games every week, as well.

Field position is HUGE... which is why at one time we had our punter kicking off because Elam couldn't get the ball into the endzone. Did you see the stats on our starting field position against the Rams?? Its a HUGE part of the game.

Can you substitute field position for points..... sure, if the points are guaranteed. How much field position are we talking? Are they floating kickoffs that allows teams to get down the field to cover, or more line drives to try and get more depth, thus allowing teams to return?

[jhildebrand]

Field position is huge especially with the current construct of this offense. Remember the first play of the Super Bowl? :confused: This team, for whatever reason, seems to always be backed up. A shorter field position could lead to an extra possession or two which could lead to an extra score or two which, in some games, is the difference in the W/L column. As for the D, when they are consistently tasked with stopping an opposing O who has an average start not far from midfield, it limits some of their aggressive play calls. Finally, when our kick coverage unit is as weak as it is, I'd much rather see a touchback.

[weazel]

twelve?

rouge... CFL doesn't want touchbacks or fair catches, they make rules to force the returner to do something with the ball.

[Ravage!!!]

rouge... CFL doesn't want touchbacks or fair catches, they make rules to force the returner to do something with the ball.

I kind of like that. I hate that the NFL is now kicking from the 30. Sure takes away from some fun possibilities at the end of games.

[OrangeHoof]

The NFL is trying to reduce concussions by reducing kick returns. Faulty logic but, that's what's behind it.

[Dapper Dan]

So we wasted a pick?

[Dapper Dan]

Patience? For a damn kicker? What team gives a kicker time to develop?

[Dapper Dan]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_00M0dtKxfiI/TQZkglGtFTI/AAAAAAAAAyY/ie6c6fk3CCw/s1600/Jay%2BFeely.jpg

Was that a preseason or regular season game?

[Dapper Dan]

Lol. He can't kick very well, let's make him punt. Great idea.

[ShaneFalco]

what pick did Denver give up for Mcanus

[Buff]

what pick did Denver give up for Mcanus

7th rounder next year.

[BroncoWave]

Yes and no, df. Special teams returns wins games every week, as well.

Field position is HUGE... which is why at one time we had our punter kicking off because Elam couldn't get the ball into the endzone. Did you see the stats on our starting field position against the Rams?? Its a HUGE part of the game.

Can you substitute field position for points..... sure, if the points are guaranteed. How much field position are we talking? Are they floating kickoffs that allows teams to get down the field to cover, or more line drives to try and get more depth, thus allowing teams to return?

As I said earlier, I think this could easily be fixed by cutting Colquitt and keeping McManus on as the punter. McManus averaged 45 yards per punt in college. Colquitt is averaging 44 this year. To me it's a no-brainer to keep McManus on in that role.

[BroncoWave]

Lol. He can't kick very well, let's make him punt. Great idea.

He was a starting punter in college and averaged 45 yards per punt on about 100 punts over two seasons. He can absolutely do it.

[VonDoom]

As I said earlier, I think this could easily be fixed by cutting Colquitt and keeping McManus on as the punter. McManus averaged 45 yards per punt in college. Colquitt is averaging 44 this year. To me it's a no-brainer to keep McManus on in that role.

Agreed. Colquitt just isn't that good, and then McManus would have had a dual role, making him more valuable.

[tomjonesrocks]

Was McManus a punter in college or something?

[Dapper Dan]

How many NFL teams currently interchange their kickers and punters? Just curious.

[dogfish]

He was a starting punter in college and averaged 45 yards per punt on about 100 punts over two seasons. He can absolutely do it.

bwahaha! did you actually just type that, or am i trippin'?

quick, somebody post vince young's college stats. . .



"he can absolutely do it!"

:spit:

:lol: :hahaha: :rofl::lol: :pound:

[BroncoWave]

bwahaha! did you actually just type that, or am i trippin'?

quick, somebody post vince young's college stats. . .



"he can absolutely do it!"

:spit:

:lol: :hahaha: :rofl::lol: :pound:

Yes, because the difference between playing qb at the college and pro levels is totally the same as the difference between punting at the college and pro levels. Killer insight, man.

[Dapper Dan]

Anus cut. /discussion

[BroncoWave]

Anus cut. /discussion

That sounds pretty painful.

[Dapper Dan]

That sounds pretty painful.

It would explain your butthurt

[dogfish]

Yes, because the difference between playing qb at the college and pro levels is totally the same as the difference between punting at the college and pro levels. Killer insight, man.

don't try to get sarcastic with me, junior-- you aren't nearly good enough at it. . .

and your suggestion was so dumb, elway would fall over laughing if he heard it. . . yea. . . "well, he sucks horribly at the one thing he's supposed to be good at-- guess that means we should probably let him try something else". . .

:lol::lol:

i take it you haven't watched the NFL before, if that's how you think it works. . .

[BroncoWave]

don't try to get sarcastic with me, junior-- you aren't nearly good enough at it. . .

and your suggestion was so dumb, elway would fall over laughing if he heard it. . . yea. . . "well, he sucks horribly at the one thing he's supposed to be good at-- guess that means we should probably let him try something else". . .

:lol::lol:

i take it you haven't watched the NFL before, if that's how you think it works. . .

You're right, I'm such a huge idiot for thinking that someone who punted successfully in college could POSSIBLY do it successfully in the NFL as well. Thank you for blessing me with your massive wealth of football knowledge. Please tell me your ways.

[ShaneFalco]

i wanted feely. 14/15 in the tryout would make me sign him asap.

but to be honest, just glad mcanus is gone.