Broncos Gameday Thread: Broncos vs Cowboys 08/28/14

[sneakers]

Lets go back ups!!!


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[Denver Native (Carol)]

Good start McManus

[tripp]

When would it ever be a good idea drafting a 27 year old QB? Idk what the Browns were thinking.

[tripp]

Good throw by Oz for a 1st down to Tamme

[Dapper Dan]

Listening on Sirius radio during lunch at work. It's going to be interesting to see who makes it and who goes. Cuts have to be made by Saturday?

[sneakers]

didn't even know what time the game started lel

[Dapper Dan]

They said it's interesting that Tamme is playing. Idk. I guess it is. But Oz is in too. It's not like we start the game with all 4th stringers.

[Dapper Dan]

didn't even know what time the game started lel

Luckily no one else snuck in and started the thread.

[VonDoom]

McManus misses a 53 yarder? Cut him! ;)

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Mike Klis @MikeKlis · 31s

Wide right. Plenty of leg. Hmmm.

Mike Klis @MikeKlis · 1m

Brandon McManus for 52-yard FG attempt.

Mike Klis @MikeKlis · 5m

Quinton Carter-David Bruton starting safeties.Duke Ihenacho goes from 17 starts last year to not starting 4th preseason game this year.

[Dapper Dan]

PFF rated Ihenacho as the worst safety, or something like that.

You guys are way ahead of my radio. Like 3 minutes or more. He's just now attempting the kick.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Jeff Legwold @Jeff_Legwold · 1h

Interesting that Peyton Manning just said on KOA pre-game #Broncos play-calling could be affected by Matt Prater's suspension.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

touchdown - anderson

[sneakers]

wooooooooooo!

[Joel]

Should've been TD Caldwell; instead he had to make a great catch and hold on to get it to the 1. Tick tock, Oz....

Who had the Int, btw? Apparently the Dallas channel decided I wanted to be sold worthless crap more than I wanted to see the game.

[BroncoWave]

Man, Tony Carter is great when he gets to play against Blaine Gabbert and Brandon Weeden! :lol:

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Vic Lombardi @VicLombardi · 10m

He may not be able to tackle, but he has the best ball skills on the team. #TonyCarter

[CrazyHorse]

Right through his hands....

[Joel]

Man, Tony Carter is great when he gets to play against Blaine Gabbert and Brandon Weeden! :lol:
Until he lets an Int through his hands right to a backup WR for an 18 yd conversion.

[Northman]

Im still in shock with the Texas A&M/SC game but see we are up 7-0. How is the game for those who can watch it live?

[BroncoWave]

Is anyone actually watching this game over the college football going on now? I'm just following the updates on Twitter.

[Joel]

Is anyone actually watching this game over the college football going on now? I'm just following the updates on Twitter.
I am; not an SECAA fan.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Is anyone actually watching this game over the college football going on now? I'm just following the updates on Twitter.

I am. I have no interest in any of the college football games tonight.

[tripp]

Good pass by Oz to Burse.

[tripp]

Oz loves these deep throws, this time to Latimer. Thought Latimer had a chance there to catch that by climbing up on the CB's shoulder. Peyton has his helmet on as if he's about to come on the field.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Jeff Legwold @Jeff_Legwold · 4m

From what I've seen in training camp and preseason games best chance for player cut by somebody else to join #Broncos roster is at returner.

Jeff Legwold @Jeff_Legwold · 10m

The #Broncos have used S Duke Ihenacho in practice on multiple special teams units as if they plan to keep him.

Jeff Legwold @Jeff_Legwold · 36m

If the #Broncos want to stick to keeping just eight in DL, will be a tough call all around. they're getting production all over depth chart

[tripp]

Oz hit hard on a 3rd and long and drills it right to Burse for a 1st down. Great throw, showed patience and stuck with his man

[tripp]

Beautiful pass down the middle by Oz to Morrah. 1st and goal babbayyyy

[Nomad]

Didn't realize the BRONCOS played tonight.....

Go BRONCOS!

[tripp]

Oz 7/11 for 126 yards. Pretty good night for Oz. A lot of long throws for big yards, don't see him completing many of those against 1st string defenders.

[Northman]

Thompson averaging 4 yds a carry so far. Thats good to see.

[Joel]

Thompson averaging 4 yds a carry so far. Thats good to see.
He only ran 2 or 3 times though, in the 2:00 drill at the end (i.e. Dallas was playing pass, so Oz was getting pounded, but still moving the ball well.) Anderson was in for all our other possessions, and he ran pretty well, too.

[Joel]

Oz 7/11 for 126 yards. Pretty good night for Oz. A lot of long throws for big yards, don't see him completing many of those against 1st string defenders.

Cowboys announcers noted as the half ended it'll be "defensive line by committee" in Dallas this year, but even their backups have been blowing by Schofield and Cornick; that's the bad news.

Good news: Oz stood in there and made some nice throws, including a big 3rd and long from about the Dallas 40 where he picked up the conversion while getting it by DEs from BOTH sides, and the deep one over the middle to set up the PAT FG. Without a sack and an incomplete into the back of Painters helmet in between, that last pass is a TD.

Even the Cowboys second teamers look as one would expect of a team switching from 3-4 to 4-3 and losing its NT, best DE and best LB, but Oz still got too GOOD a look.

[Joel]

Holy :censored:, Latimer; you were just supposed to make a 3 yd 3rd down conversion, not give us 1st and G! :)

[Dzone]

looked like Thomson should have hit that block to score cody, but he is doing good..Love J thompsons blocking, yards after contact etc

[Dzone]

Burse is looking damn good Dont know if that punt earlier was a real fumble
Vickerson-just a damn beast.Cant see that guy getting cut. No freakin way

[Joel]

Burse is looking damn good Dont know if that punt earlier was a real fumble
He didn't catch it, so yeah; I'm not even sure there should've been a penalty since it was a live ball after the touch and drop. I'm still not sold on Burse; running out 7-8 yds deep and getting planted just past the 10 was bad, the fumbled fair catch was bad, and even that last one was a nice return, but if he doesn't make that first guy miss, refusing to fair catch could've gotten him hit and fumbling. In the regular season, the first guy there won't be a guy NE cut a few days ago.


Vickerson-just a damn beast.Cant see that guy getting cut. No freakin way
It's down to his health and the teams confidence in it. Unrein's been first or second to the ball a loooot of plays, too, from a DE spot Vickerson can't play.

EDIT: And as soon as I say that, Unrein scores the 3rd down sack (almost a safety) from DT, then Burse has a huge return where the punter saves a TD. Barret had a nice sack the play before, too, but I'm not sure we'll keep an 8th LB even with Trevathan hurt, and all the #2 spots look pretty solid.

[Dzone]

Burse is going to return a punt for a touchdown real soon. Maybe against Indy.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Just a side note - the Broncos did not assign #24 to any player this year

[tripp]

Bibbs great rush for a Denver touchdown.

[sneakers]

touchdown!!! wooo

[tripp]

Just a side note - the Broncos did not assign #24 to any player this year

That's pure class.

[Joel]

Nice short TD run by Bibbs; he had a hole, but not a big one, and squirted through it to take off for the end zone in an instant. He gets a few long runs, it'll be all Local Boy Makes Good and Thompson will have a fight for that #4 spot.

[Joel]

Two KOs out the end zone and another on the end line. Just gotta be consistently accurate; that 54 yd FG try had plenty of leg, but was wide right the whole way.

[tripp]

The only Broncos preseason game I missed was the Houston one. We've looked great the 3 I watched. What the hell happened during the Houston game? I know it doesn't matter, but seems like something was out of whack aside from Welker being concussed.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Andrew Mason @MaseDenver · 15s

RT @timkawakami: Hochuli: "Los Angeles wins the toss." Betcha even Mark Davis did a double-take on that one.

[Joel]

The only Broncos preseason game I missed was the Houston one. We've looked great the 3 I watched. What the hell happened during the Houston game? I know it doesn't matter, but seems like something was out of whack aside from Welker being concussed.
What happened was all our kickers were awful (hence one's gone now) and their 3rd QB was better than our 2nd QB. Simple as that.

[Joel]

Guess the nice thing about all those almost-sacks we haven't finished in preseason is they draw holding penalties. :tongue:

[NightTerror218]

Joel you sound like a negative Nancy today.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Andrew Mason @MaseDenver · 23s

Kevin Vickerson still in the game.


Andrew Mason @MaseDenver · 58s

Total preseason stats: Juwan Thompson 25-132 (5.3 YPC), 0 TDs; Kapri Bibbs 15-68 (4.5 YPC), 3 TDs.

[NightTerror218]

He only ran 2 or 3 times though, in the 2:00 drill at the end (i.e. Dallas was playing pass, so Oz was getting pounded, but still moving the ball well.) Anderson was in for all our other possessions, and he ran pretty well, too.

Juwan had less carries for the same yards as Cj, 4 less carries (33% less carries)

[VonDoom]

Joel you sound like a negative Nancy today.

Just today? ;)

[NightTerror218]

Just today? ;)

They stand out more when it is only one sentence

[VonDoom]

Side note - I flipped over to Red Zone, and the Seahawks are playing most of their syarters against the Raiders. Pete Carroll just loves winning preseason games ...

[Joel]

Burse doing his DT impression; looks nice.

[Zweems56]

Burse is going to make this squad, and he's going to see playing time if Welker misses any significant portion of the season.

[Joel]

Juwan had less carries for the same yards as Cj, 4 less carries (33% less carries)
An average on 3 carries doesn't mean much. He's had a few more in the second half, and hasn't looked bad, but Bibbs got the goal line carries, and thus the TDs.

[NightTerror218]

Burse is a rookies. Hope he just progressively gets better

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Vic Lombardi @VicLombardi · 5m

Why can't they just keep 73? What the hell, NFL? TV is paying you 6-billion this year alone.

Vic Lombardi @VicLombardi · 5m

Unless there's a proven return man who hits waivers, I think Burse just made the 53.

Vic Lombardi @VicLombardi · 9m

Gonna be awfully tough to decide on which DT to cut. VIckerson, Unrein, Austin all playing well tonight.

[Joel]

Burse is going to make this squad, and he's going to see playing time if Welker misses any significant portion of the season.
I doubt we'll see him on offense unless we go 5 wide; he hasn't looked bad, but I still feel more comfortable with Caldwell.

[Joel]

Gonna be awfully tough to decide on which DT to cut. VIckerson, Unrein, Austin all playing well tonight.
Truth. It's a nice problem to have though; if Jackson, Smith and Anunike weren't also playing well, I'd keep Unrein as a backup DE, but as it is... tough call.

[tripp]

Another long FG attempt by McManus missed.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Andrew Mason @MaseDenver · 1m

McManus wide right from 54 yards. 1-for-3 on field goals, both misses from outside of 50 yards.

[CrazyHorse]

McManus blows. He's got the distance but not the accuracy.

[Joel]

I'd like to see some midrange FG tries from McManus; hard to judge him on misses from 54. Both had the length though—and headed wide right from the start. Not good. :(

[Zweems56]

I doubt we'll see him on offense unless we go 5 wide; he hasn't looked bad, but I still feel more comfortable with Caldwell.
As I said, if welker misses significant time. He fits more naturally into welker's role than any other receiver we have, and he's playing his ass off right now. Sanders is a slot guy, sure, but he doesn't do the underneath routes that welker does. Burse does that and loves it.

[tripp]

Side note - I flipped over to Red Zone, and the Seahawks are playing most of their syarters against the Raiders. Pete Carroll just loves winning preseason games ...

I can wait for the day for the Seahawks to get punched in the mouth.

[Joel]

As I said, if welker misses significant time. He fits more naturally into welker's role than any other receiver we have, and he's playing his ass off right now. Sanders is a slot guy, sure, but he doesn't do the underneath routes that welker does. Burse does that and loves it.
I could see Sanders or Caldwell either one in the slot, and don't see Burse as #2 there or anywhere. Maybe eventually, but not now. Just MHO. He should make the final 53 though, and then anything can happen.

[Dapper Dan]

It looks like during the first four games we will go for it or punt instead of a 50+ yard attempt.

[tripp]

Jason Garrett looks like this is the longest NFL game of his LIFE.

[VonDoom]

I feel a little bad for this Dallas QB. It's like a jailbreak on every play.

[Joel]

Louis Young doing well on these 4th qtr CB blitzes. Another case of too many guys for too few spots though.

[VonDoom]

Side note - I flipped over to Red Zone, and the Seahawks are playing most of their syarters against the Raiders. Pete Carroll just loves winning preseason games ...

I can wait for the day for the Seahawks to get punched in the mouth.

Since I posted this, they've pulled starters, but the Raiders are smoking them

[Joel]

NICE 3rd and short conversion from Thompson; he had a guy on him in the backfield, but kept moving to get the first, and didn't let the 2nd (or 3rd) guy push him back again.

[Joel]

McManus blows. He's got the distance but not the accuracy.
Yup, but Rugland has both. Just sayin'....

[VonDoom]

NICE 3rd and short conversion from Thompson; he had a guy on him in the backfield, but kept moving to get the first, and didn't let the 2nd (or 3rd) guy push him back again.

This has been his MO this preseason, and it's why he's generating buzz. He's hard to bring down

[Az Snake]

Good job Broncos, thank you and best of luck to each and everyone of you.
I sure would not want the job of deciding the final 53 !!!

[sneakers]

taking a knee???????????

[CrazyHorse]

Try a field goal?

[VonDoom]

Alright, he made a 40 yarder. If we don't give him any super long kicks, we'll be fine

[Joel]

This has been his MO this preseason, and it's why he's generating buzz. He's hard to bring down
I know, but doing it in the final minutes of the 4th is so much bigger than doing it other times. It doesn't matter here, because we curbstomped Dallas and their offense only managed a FG all night, but if Hillman had delivered as much against the Ravens first team as Thompson just did against Dallas' second/third, we probably win the SB two years ago.

[tripp]

Good job Broncos, thank you and best of luck to each and everyone of you.
I sure would not want the job of deciding the final 53 !!!

God I hate snakes. Other than Jake the Snake, naturally.

[Joel]

God I hate snakes. Other than Jake the Snake, naturally.
Same, except without the exception. ;)

[BroncoWave]

I know, but doing it in the final minutes of the 4th is so much bigger than doing it other times. It doesn't matter here, because we curbstomped Dallas and their offense only managed a FG all night, but if Hillman had delivered as much against the Ravens first team as Thompson just did against Dallas' second/third, we probably win the SB two years ago.

Wait, you said the other day it was Prater's fault we didn't win the Super Bowl. I guess fault lies with whichever player you are deciding to bash at the time, huh?

[Joel]

Wait, you said the other day it was Prater's fault we didn't win the Super Bowl. I guess fault lies with whichever player you are deciding to bash at the time, huh?
I believe I said there's plenty of blame to go 'round for that one. If Prater doesn't kick the ground before the ball, we head to halftime up 10 instead of tied, and win that game. If Hillman gets >1 first down in the last 3:00, we run out the clock and win by 7. If Moore doesn't fail the EASIEST most BASIC safety task, we still win by 7. If we EVER score in 1+ OT periods, we still win. If Manning doesn't throw a pick on our end, we still win.

Think that covers everyone; we can further note that if Holliday doesn't return a kick AND punt for a TD (setting a playoff record in the process) we lose by 2 TDs in regulation. So maybe the real moral is Fox didn't get a very talented—STACKED—roster ready to play. Good thing we haven't had any other playoff games like that, huh?

[TXBRONC]

It looks like during the first four games we will go for it or punt instead of a 50+ yard attempt.

Kickers are a dime a dozen. If McManus is cut they'll find someone else.

[tomjonesrocks]

That's pure class.

High fived, but no one should be wearing 30.

[Magnificent Seven]

So far, they are 3-1. Good sign for Broncos! Let's focus on our first game against Colts! I couldn't believe we got a game next Sunday!

[BroncoWave]

So far, they are 3-1. Good sign for Broncos! Let's focus on our first game against Colts! I couldn't believe we got a game next Sunday!

We're actually 0-0. :D

[broncosinindy]

Gonna be some danf tough cuts

[Dapper Dan]

Kickers are a dime a dozen. If McManus is cut they'll find someone else.

If that were really true I don't think we would have given up a draft pick for one.

[Dapper Dan]

God I hate snakes. Other than Jake the Snake, naturally.

We're talking about Jake Roberts, right?

[Magnificent Seven]

Gonna be some danf tough cuts

I hope they keep Juwan Thompson.

[MOtorboat]

If that were really true I don't think we would have given up a draft pick for one.

If McManus is cut they don't give up a draft pick.

[MOtorboat]

This is a really ugly first quarter, for just about everyone on both sides.

[MOtorboat]

Weeden is atrocious.

[Dapper Dan]

If McManus is cut they don't give up a draft pick.

My original point was that if kickers were a dime a dozen, why would you trade for one? Why not just pick one up since they're so easy to get?

Still a good point that you bring up. I kinda hope we cut him so we can keep our pick. The next Woodyard or Trevathan could be out there.

[Dapper Dan]

Weeden is atrocious.

I'm not sure what that means, but I think he played pretty bad.

[TXBRONC]

If that were really true I don't think we would have given up a draft pick for one.

We gave up a seventh round pick for him and IIRC it's a conditional pick. There is an abundance of kickers out there so if Denver decides to cut him they'll find another kicker.

[GEM]

Side note - I flipped over to Red Zone, and the Seahawks are playing most of their syarters against the Raiders. Pete Carroll just loves winning preseason games ...

They just come off as a really low class organization. Their 4th stringers could beat Oakland's 1st stringers.

[TXBRONC]

They just come off as a really low class organization. Their 4th stringers could beat Oakland's 1st stringers.

I agree but hey eventually something like that can come back bite them in the ass.

[MOtorboat]

My original point was that if kickers were a dime a dozen, why would you trade for one? Why not just pick one up since they're so easy to get?

Still a good point that you bring up. I kinda hope we cut him so we can keep our pick. The next Woodyard or Trevathan could be out there.

They saw one they liked and if they cut him (before week 4) they haven't given up the draft pick, so it's a wash and they can turn to the FA wire. If he's really good, he's worth the pick. After last night, the former scenario looks to be more true.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I agree but hey eventually something like that can come back bite them in the ass.

Yes it can, especially after they long season they had last year.