Broncos Gameday Thread: Broncos vs Seahawks 08-07-14

[sneakers]

So I guess there are 3 things to say:
1. Glad a new season is starting
2. No injuries pls
3. GO BRONCOS!


http://i.imgur.com/7heeXiD.jpg

[silkamilkamonico]

Not sure anything about scheduling and am sure this has already been covered, but why is Denver playing a team in the preseason that they play in the regular season?

[Canmore]

I don't know a definitive answer, but a lot of it has to do with travel times in the preseason. I think the NFL tries to keep travel distances down during preseason so you play teams in your geographical area.

[Magnificent Seven]

Not sure anything about scheduling and am sure this has already been covered, but why is Denver playing a team in the preseason that they play in the regular season?

I think west coast teams want to travel shortly and save times. Same thing for Denver.

[DenBronx]

Well...at least no one else started this thread. Off to a good start already.

[tubby]

Not sure anything about scheduling and am sure this has already been covered, but why is Denver playing a team in the preseason that they play in the regular season?
It's BS......Niners too....I dot get it. Dallas and MIN make more sense.

[wayninja]

I'm glad you weren't too scared to post this.

[MOtorboat]

I'm glad you weren't too scared to post this.

Why? He didn't start the Super Bowl thread.

[wayninja]

Why? He didn't start the Super Bowl thread.


Sorry, that was a typo. Meant to say "too scarred to post this"

[CrazyHorse]

What happens if someone else starts the gameday threads?

[Jaws]

I almost forgot about this!!

Great to have our first gameday thread of the next chapter :D

Go Broncos!!!!!!!!

[VonDoom]

What happens if someone else starts the gameday threads?

We lose!

[VonDoom]

I'm excited to actually see this team play - it's been too long. I wish it weren't the Seahawks, but whatever. No injuries is the biggest thing. Let's do this!

[GEM]

Not sure anything about scheduling and am sure this has already been covered, but why is Denver playing a team in the preseason that they play in the regular season?

Why do the Broncos play the Patriots every year? Weird.

[Shazam!]

[QUOTE=silkamilkamonico;2211840]Why do the Broncos play the Patriots every year? Weird.

Why do they have to travel to NE for the third straight year, that's what bothers me. Last time they were in Denver for reg season was with TT.

[EastCoastBronco]

Here's hoping that "Dick" Sherman tears whatever passes for the ACL in his jaw from opening it too wide and overusing it and gets placed on IR...;-)

[VonDoom]

[QUOTE=GEM;2211923]

Why do they have to travel to NE for the third straight year, that's what bothers me. Last time they were in Denver for reg season was with TT.

As I posted in this thread - http://www.broncosforums.com/forums/showthread.php/571712-Denver-Broncos-2014-Schedule-Broncos-2014-Opponents-Finalized/page4


I just did research on this elsewhere and don't feel like going through all the specifics, but it is indeed on a cycle. Remember, we play the Patriots every three years because we're playing the AFC East. If we play them in the intervening years, it's because we've finished in the same position in our division as they did in theirs. Since the format changed after 2002, our six year cycle in those games has been as follows:

2003 - vs AFC East, at AFC South
2004 - vs AFC East, at AFC North
2005 - vs AFC North, at AFC South
2006 - at AFC East, vs AFC South
2007 - at AFC East, vs AFC North
2008 - at AFC North, vs AFC South

That cycle repeated from 2009-2014; in this example, 2012 and 2013 we were at that AFC East team that happened to be the Patriots. This cycle starts again with 2015 and 2016 being home games against the AFC East team; if it is the Patriots in that scenario, then we will play them at home two years in a row. And in 2017, we will play the AFC East in its entirety again, and it should flip the home/away games, meaning that we'd play the Pats (and Jets) at home. So potentially, we could play the Pats three straight years AT HOME in the near future.

[NightTrainLayne]

What's the television schedule like for this? Will it be replayed on NFL Network?

[BroncoJoe]

I haven't checked, but I'd imagine it'll be broadcast live on the NFLN.

[MOtorboat]

I haven't checked, but I'd imagine it'll be broadcast live on the NFLN.

1 a.m. Eastern. On tape.

[NightTrainLayne]

1 a.m. Eastern. On tape.

Thanks Mo! I'll set the DVR. . . or stay up late.

[BroncoJoe]

1 a.m. Eastern. On tape.

Yep - I didn't realize there were other games tonight.

[NightTrainLayne]

Yep - I didn't realize there were other games tonight.

Well, there's not any other games that count.

[NightTerror218]

Not sure anything about scheduling and am sure this has already been covered, but why is Denver playing a team in the preseason that they play in the regular season?

I has to do with the fact Broncos play NFC West every preseasin. Just thus year they play in the normal season as well. That us why we do not play all 4 NFC West teams this year.

[BigDaddyBronco]

1 a.m. Eastern. On tape.

Thank God for DVR's.

[NightTrainLayne]

Thank God for DVR's.

I'm tempted to take a nap from about 9:00 to midnight, and then get up and watch the game.

But, alas, it's just the first pre-season game. . . at 2:30 in the morning, I don't think I want to be watching all the future cuts running around.

[MOtorboat]

Thank God for DVR's.

I'll get off work when the game is over, so it's perfect timing for me.

[tomjonesrocks]

Simply can't bring myself to watch this one. Look forward to hear how guys looked, but I'm not ready to see Sherman and Carroll and hear the whole SB narrative throughout a game without seeing another opponent first. Going to stick with reading about this one.

[BroncoJoe]

I'd love our first play to be a direct snap to the RB, with Peyton acting like the snap went over his head.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I'd love our first play to be a direct snap to the RB, with Peyton acting like the snap went over his head.

:laugh: ...........................:mad:

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I'm eager to see the defensive line play, plus to see what kind of a push the left side of the offensive line gets now. Clady and Franklin next to each other should be night and day compared to last year. For those of you who think Clady isn't good in the run game, you're wrong. :D

[TXBRONC]

[QUOTE=Shazam!;2211934]

As I posted in this thread - http://www.broncosforums.com/forums/showthread.php/571712-Denver-Broncos-2014-Schedule-Broncos-2014-Opponents-Finalized/page4


I just did research on this elsewhere and don't feel like going through all the specifics, but it is indeed on a cycle. Remember, we play the Patriots every three years because we're playing the AFC East. If we play them in the intervening years, it's because we've finished in the same position in our division as they did in theirs. Since the format changed after 2002, our six year cycle in those games has been as follows:

2003 - vs AFC East, at AFC South
2004 - vs AFC East, at AFC North
2005 - vs AFC North, at AFC South
2006 - at AFC East, vs AFC South
2007 - at AFC East, vs AFC North
2008 - at AFC North, vs AFC South

That cycle repeated from 2009-2014; in this example, 2012 and 2013 we were at that AFC East team that happened to be the Patriots. This cycle starts again with 2015 and 2016 being home games against the AFC East team; if it is the Patriots in that scenario, then we will play them at home two years in a row. And in 2017, we will play the AFC East in its entirety again, and it should flip the home/away games, meaning that we'd play the Pats (and Jets) at home. So potentially, we could play the Pats three straight years AT HOME in the near future.

We play the Patriots almost every year regardless which division we face.

[VonDoom]

[QUOTE=VonDoom;2211949]

We play the Patriots almost every year regardless which division we face.

Yes, because they've finished in the same position in their division as we have in recent years (first, in this case). We will play an AFC East team at home in 2015 and 2016 - if we finish in the same spot as the Patriots each year, it will be them.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

For those locally, the game will be televised live on ch5, or HD 657 - those are the channels for Comcast. There will also be a pregame special, starting at 6:00 PM MST. Also, on the Broncos site, you can sign up to watch all preseason games online for $19.99 - https://preseason.nfl.com/nflpl/secure/packages?wl=DEN&team=DEN&nlrefer=DEN&app=PRESEASON_LIVE&icampaign=PJ_GPPSL_ht_domestic_DEN&cvosrc=Affiliate.DEN.PSLPJHT_DOMESTIC&affiliateId=73660&clickId=992057765&affiliateCustomId=

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

[QUOTE=TXBRONC;2212115]

Yes, because they've finished in the same position in their division as we have in recent years (first, in this case). We will play an AFC East team at home in 2015 and 2016 - if we finish in the same spot as the Patriots each year, it will be them.

It would be nice if we got to play them at home every other year, instead of once out of every 5 games. I think the last time we played them at home was 5 years ago...other than the AFC Championship game last year.

[OB]

My nails are painted - Im ready Im ready Im ready

[OB]

[QUOTE=GEM;2211923]

Why do they have to travel to NE for the third straight year, that's what bothers me. Last time they were in Denver for reg season was with TT.


I got my ass chewed for mentioning that yesterday :coffee:

[BroncoJoe]

STOP QUOTING!

Or, at least fix it before hitting Post Quick Reply.

[Dzone]

STOP QUOTING!

Or, at least fix it before hitting Post Quick Reply.

Huh?

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Jeff Legwold @Jeff_Legwold · 3h

For #Broncos Brock Osweiler fired up to get gameday work tonight against Seahawks: http://espn.go.com/blog/denver-broncos/post/_/id/7834/osweiler-still-working-on-qb-grindstone …

[Dzone]

Cool. Want to see how Oz and Dysert will do. How Hillman, cj and the res t of the rbs do. Ware, wolfe, barrow, ward, aqib, Irving, moore...Not sure if Miller will play. Am guessing he isnt suiting up

[Nomad]

Just win the game, BRONCOS! Regardless if it's preseason.

I think Seattle is a good matchup for the first preseason game. They kicked the BRONCOS ass last preseason and in the Super Bowl.

[Dzone]

[QUOTE=Shazam!;2211934]


I got my ass chewed for mentioning that yesterday :coffee:
Youre kidding ? What miserable, friendless putz would chew your ass over something so petty & trivial? smh

[BroncoWave]

[QUOTE=GEM;2211923]

Why do they have to travel to NE for the third straight year, that's what bothers me. Last time they were in Denver for reg season was with TT.


I got my ass chewed for mentioning that yesterday :coffee:

Probably because the "we always have to go to new England" thing is a huge myth that some Broncos fans like to perpetuate. In the Tom Brady era, we have played exactly half of our games against the pats in denver and half on the road.

[VonDoom]

It would be nice if we got to play them at home every other year, instead of once out of every 5 games. I think the last time we played them at home was 5 years ago...other than the AFC Championship game last year.

We played them at home in 2011. Unfortunately the way the schedule worked out, we play(ed) them in NE for three straight years. Potentially, though, we will play them in Denver for three straight years starting next year (2017 is the only one guaranteed at this point, but I think we all assume we'll both finish first in our respective divisions this year).

[MOtorboat]

I got my ass chewed for mentioning that yesterday :coffee:

Seriously?

**** off. I pointed out it's not nearly as lopsided as it looks, and that's it. I didn't "chew your ass" at all.

[GEM]

Would you 2 knock it off. FFS put each other on ignore already.

[Pudge]

I'm so sick of superbowl highlights

[GEM]

[QUOTE=OB;2212140]

Probably because the "we always have to go to new England" thing is a huge myth that some Broncos fans like to perpetuate. In the Tom Brady era, we have played exactly half of our games against the pats in denver and half on the road.

My problem isn't where we play them, my question is HOW OFTEN we play them. You'd think we were in the same division playing once every year. :D

[Valar Morghulis]

2am is a late one for the pre season, but i really want to see the progress of our depth chart, especially at running back, so i guess i will be staying up

[Denver Native (Carol)]

For those locally, the game will be televised live on ch5, or HD 657 - those are the channels for Comcast. There will also be a pregame special, starting at 6:00 PM MST. Also, on the Broncos site, you can sign up to watch all preseason games online for $19.99 - https://preseason.nfl.com/nflpl/secure/packages?wl=DEN&team=DEN&nlrefer=DEN&app=PRESEASON_LIVE&icampaign=PJ_GPPSL_ht_domestic_DEN&cvosrc=Affiliate.DEN.PSLPJHT_DOMESTIC&affiliateId=73660&clickId=992057765&affiliateCustomId=

Bump - for anyone who did not see this, and would not mind paying $19.99

[OB]

STOP QUOTING!

Or, at least fix it before hitting Post Quick Reply.

Not my fault - its spikers quote or this thread so calm the fuk down

[OB]

Would you 2 knock it off. FFS put each other on ignore already.

In my defense I never quoted or mentioned names - maybe it hit home with him but he wasnt the only one i was referring to, so.....and he did have me on ignore - and took me off - not something I have control of nor have I ever bitched about MO to a mod nor have I ever reported anything he said - i figure our relationship will be over when he defriends me on facebook (which he could have I havent checked) - until then I just figure he has as much patience for me as he does just about every other person on the planet - which is very little :D

[GEM]

Boss wouldn't let us do Broncos day as he has axed casual days in the office (BOOOOO!!!) so I went through today with only my Broncos bandana in my hair, nice top and slacks. He gave me a sideways look about the bandana and told me I was cheating the rules. :laugh: So now that he is gone....I changed to all Broncos! :rockon: Ready to welcome football back!!


Go BRONCOS!!!

[GEM]

EBohdltpVUY

My dad has bbq chicken on the grill and I'm counting minutes to get out of work! Let's go 5 o'clock!!!

[OB]

You all can stop rubbing it in our (non-Colorado faces) that we arent going to be able to watch the game :(

[GEM]

You all can stop rubbing it in our (non-Colorado faces) that we arent going to be able to watch the game :(

$20 on Broncos site and you can watch all 4 games. ;)

[OB]

$20 on Broncos site and you can watch all 4 games. ;)


Ya......no

It's preseason - no one should have to pay money to watch a preseason game

[GEM]

Then just move your ass to Denver. :D

[Canmore]

You all can stop rubbing it in our (non-Colorado faces) that we arent going to be able to watch the game :(

Don't you get NFL Network? The game is on at 10pm pacific time.

[OB]

Then just move your ass to Denver. :D

Do you need a roommate :)

[OB]

Don't you get NFL Network? The game is on at 10pm pacific time.

I think so - Dont shun me for not knowing :/

[GEM]

Do you need a roommate :)

I can make room :D

[OB]

I can make room :D

Anything would be more room than my current living conditions :lol:

[spikerman]

Not my fault - its spikers quote or this thread so calm the fuk down
:confused:

[OB]

:confused:


Oh no - i didnt mean it bad - there is something weird going on in this thread that when you quote someone it doesnt do it the normal way it usually does and Joe was getting all pissy thinking it was the posters mistake - when its obvious its tneds fault :)

I just noticed that most of the time the person quoting your post was having issues but I see from other quotes itsnot just your posts but something to do with this thread i think

[spikerman]

Oh no - i didnt mean it bad - there is something weird going on in this thread that when you quote someone it doesnt do it the normal way it usually does and Joe was getting all pissy thinking it was the posters mistake - when its obvious its tneds fault :)

I just noticed that most of the time the person quoting your post was having issues but I see from other quotes itsnot just your posts but something to do with this thread i think

I'm confused because up until the head scratch I haven't posted in this thread. haha

[OB]

I'm confused because up until the head scratch I haven't posted in this thread. haha

OK well i am a dipshit - it was Shazam - not you - during the day I have to quickly read and post so no one can see my screen - the other day one of the attorneys was like "what screen is that, that is so dark blue :eek: )

[spikerman]

OK well i am a dipshit - it was Shazam - not you - during the day I have to quickly read and post so no one can see my screen - the other day one of the attorneys was like "what screen is that, that is so dark blue :eek: )
I really had to go back and look to see if I posted in here. At my age it's easy to forget. ;)

[OB]

I really had to go back and look to see if I posted in here. At my age it's easy to forget. ;)

At my age - i apparently cant read

[sneakers]

2 hours to go!

[OB]

My conundrum is do I just come here and follow the thread or do I wait and watch it on NFLN :confused: I think I would get better insight from this thread - I can pretend its like listening to the game on the radio :) I used to love listening to Yankees games on the radio back in the day before I had cable and only a black and white TV that got 3 stations

[Denver Native (Carol)]

For those who are out of area, and do not have NFL Network, or do not want to stay up to watch the tape of the game, can listen on this link - it is better than nothing. They are talking about the game right now.

http://www.iheart.com/live/Newsradio-850-KOA-389/?cid=main.html&pname=668&campid=play_bar&autoplay=true

[Valar Morghulis]

My NFL Games Pass subscription is playing up - it is saying i have no active subscription (my credit card statement does not agree)

If i have stayed up for nothing i will be raging!

[Magnificent Seven]

Does anyone have problem with Pre-Season Live on NFL.com? I couldn't get in.

[Valar Morghulis]

Does anyone have problem with Pre-Season Live on NFL.com? I couldn't get in.

yeah - i am furious!

[Magnificent Seven]

My NFL Games Pass subscription is playing up - it is saying i have no active subscription (my credit card statement does not agree)

If i have stayed up for nothing i will be raging!

Same thing for me. I am having a problem to get in Pre-Season Live.

[Magnificent Seven]

I am going to use this website for Broncos game.

http://ifirstrowus.eu/sport/american-football.html

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

[QUOTE=BroncoJoe;2212144]STOP QUOTING!

Or, at least fix it before hitting Post Quick Reply.

Why do you say that?

[DenBronx]

Spoiled ass Denver peeps get to watch the game live without paying for a choppy stream. Lol

[DenBronx]

I'm just going to impatiently watch it on NFLN work in a few hours or so.

[BroncoWave]

Still waiting for a link to pop up on first row sports.

[sneakers]

Who the heck is Ron Zappo?

[BroncoWave]

Does anyone have a streaming link they can PM me?

[DenBronx]

Does anyone have a streaming link they can PM me?

Try Bronco Planet on FB. Those guys are on top of stuff like that and will most likely know one.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Who the heck is Ron Zappo?

He has done the sports on different tv stations in Colorado, and also the main news person on tv. Ch9 hired him to do the preseason games, along with Lynch. And it's Zappolo

[sneakers]

first down!

[BroncoWave]

Doesn't look like a stream will pop up on first row. Oh well, guess I'll have to be patient and watch it on DVR tomorrow.

[BroncoWave]

Just as I say that a link pops up. Thank the internet gods!

[sneakers]

Holy Cow! First Row has the best stream for once ever

[BroncoWave]

Rahim Moore is back, bitches!

[BroncoWave]

Well, not quite. But we still get the ball back.

[UnderArmour]

No interception. Oh well. Ware is going to be an All Pro player this year for the Broncos and was well worth the buck. Really great to see him in action.

[BroncoWave]

I don't know if this Burse guy is any good but he has the type of hair you like to see from your punt returner.

[Bronco4ever]

My cable company is hosing me. A technical difficulties screen is all I'm seeing.

[spikerman]

I'm not watching the game, just tracking it on nfl.com. What's with all of the penalties? Also, is Manning even looking to throw the ball downfield?

[sneakers]

Manny down the field pushing DT to first down!

[Denver Native (Carol)]

My cable company is hosing me. A technical difficulties screen is all I'm seeing.

Call them to see what the problem is, and tell them you want credit, as you can not see what you want to see.

[DenBronx]

Touchdown!


Take that Seabirds!!!


I don't care if it's preseason. I'm still pissed off! Lol

[BroncoWave]

Hillman and Anderson are both running the ball well.

[spikerman]

I was waiting for Carol's TD announcement. I've missed that.

[Valar Morghulis]

I am going to bed, no point staring at black screen.

Glad to see we are up by 7!

[Valar Morghulis]

Hillman and Anderson are both running the ball well.

That's exactly what I wanted to hear.

[spikerman]

So, not that they've been on the field that much, but does Denver's defense look more physical?

[UnderArmour]

Ryan Clady is a huge difference major. The offensive line is night and day versus the one that didn't show up in the Super Bowl. Glad coach Fox and coach Manning left the offense out there to get a score.

[DenBronx]

I am going to bed, no point staring at black screen.

Glad to see we are up by 7!

At least our starting O scored on them. Can't wait for us to pound them come regular season.

[DenBronx]

Ryan Clady is a huge difference major. The offensive line is night and day versus the one that didn't show up in the Super Bowl. Glad coach Fox and coach Manning left the offense out there to get a score.

I'm fully convinced someone put a spell on our team that game. No way a record breaking team just disappears like that. We did get better so this year will be real real interesting.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Lightening in area - game suspended

[Denver Native (Carol)]

I was waiting for Carol's TD announcement. I've missed that.


:salute: TOUCHDOWN BRONCOS :salute:

:salute: HILLMAN :salute:

[BroncoWave]

I've seen enough to be happy. They can go ahead and call it for all I care. :lol:

[sneakers]

Why has the game stopped?

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Vic Lombardi @VicLombardi · 41s

These storms may stick around until 9pm, according to radar. Of that's the case, seriously, just call it right now.

Vic Lombardi @VicLombardi · 7m

Game suspended due to lighting. Let's just call this thing right now. seen enough.

[sneakers]

Vic Lombardi @VicLombardi · 41s

These storms may stick around until 9pm, according to radar. Of that's the case, seriously, just call it right now.

Vic Lombardi @VicLombardi · 7m

Game suspended due to lighting. Let's just call this thing right now. seen enough.

AGAIN! Same thing last season opener against the ravens

[Valar Morghulis]

Yeah I am definitely going to bed now that it is suspended!

Catch you all tomorrow people.

[sneakers]

Do the broncos have a 3rd QB in camp?

[NightTerror218]

Hillman is doing awesome. Manning is having a floater game either way we are doing good. Chippy game.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

They just said that the game should restart at 8:15

[Dzone]

Colorado springs channel 11 just left the game and is now showing Jeopardy LOL...I wonder if they are going to go back to the game
Screw football, Im on a roll on Jeopardy tonight...total domination lol
Clady is amazing. Hillman actually looked ok on a ciouple runs. d Ware was lookin good. TJ Ward lining up near los like a linebacker a few times

[VonDoom]

DT is a beast so far. OL looks much better (thanks Clady!) And we didn't let them push us around after that TD. So far so good. Looks like I won't see as much of this game as I wanted to, though

[sneakers]

Colorado springs channel 11 just left the game and is now showing Jeopardy LOL...I wonder if they are going to go back to the game
Screw football, Im on a roll on Jeopardy tonight...total domination lol

Jeopardy is wonderful

[BroncoJoe]

Back on finally.

[NightTerror218]

Missing Harris right now Webster is laying off and getting picked on for two first downs

[BroncoWave]

Demarcus Ware is still really good. He's been in Wilson's face all night. I can't wait until he and Von are on the field at the same time.

[BroncoWave]

The NFL is going to be unwatchable this season if they call illegal contact/holding/PI at this rate. This is a little ridiculous.

[Dzone]

Russell Wilson is the only seahawk with any class
Wolfe looked like a freakin tank on that tackle...D Ware is fast. I didnt know he was so damn fast
Wow...guys better wear their thigh pads against aqib , that was ******* beautiul

[Dzone]

The NFL is going to be unwatchable this season if they call illegal contact/holding/PI at this rate. This is a little ridiculous.
No doubt. They are toying with the game too much. If it aint broke why fix it.

[BroncoWave]

No doubt. They are toying with the game too much. If it aint broke why fix it.

In good news, though, Manning will shatter all the records he broke last season. :lol:

[Simple Jaded]

Didn't take Talib long.

[NightTerror218]

This is the ugliest game penalty wise good lord

[Dzone]

**** you refs **** you refs are ruining the game,,,there is a penalty on every ******* play

[BroncoWave]

Soooo much ticky tack crap. I wasn't seeing some huge pull of the facemask there.

[Dzone]

Illegal contact my ass ..what a friggin joke

[Bronco4ever]

I hate all the penalties, but I like watching the defense harass Wilson. I like Wilson, but I'm still bitter!

[Denver Native (Carol)]

If the squaks score, the touchdown goes to the refs

[OB]

Not watching - can't. But I was afraid of this as far as rule changes.

[UnderArmour]

Denver's drive: fueled by stellar offensive play. Seattle's drive: fueled by questionable penalties. Can't wait for the regular season.

[NightTerror218]

13 penalties so far 8 on broncos I think 5 that drive all gave first downs.

[VonDoom]

We should have gotten off the field four times that drive but got called for bad penalties each time. Might as well call one on every play.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Vic Lombardi @VicLombardi · 18s

The Seahawks have gained more yards thanks to penalties (65) than actual offensive yards (60).

[Dzone]

Not watching - can't. But I was afraid of this as far as rule changes.
Why cant you watch it? You should turn it on, its the first half denver has played great. refs gave seattle a touchdown. It should be 7 zip

[CrazyHorse]

With the way they're enforcing pass interference Manning will probably break all the records he set last year.

[Simple Jaded]

Broncos picked the wrong year to invest in physical DB's.

[Dzone]

GJ , looks like a concussion...looked like he got knocked out for a second and dropped the ball...he could be done for the preseason if it is...then bibbs or that other guy could move up

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Vic Lombardi @VicLombardi · 4s

RT @srjohn65: @VicLombardi Who is Thompson?--->> rookie free agent out of Duke. Highly recommend by PFM's friend, the Duke coach.

[Dzone]

Juwan Thompson looks like pocket Hercules on steroids dayummmm...
The dude is a beast

[OB]

Why cant you watch it? You should turn it on, its the first half denver has played great. refs gave seattle a touchdown. It should be 7 zip

It's not on until midnight here. ******* cowboys

NFLN here did SF - Cowboys - Broncos.

[Bronco4ever]

Roby caused a fumble. Nice!

[NightTerror218]

Nice Roby forced a fumble. I like him already.

[Bronco4ever]

Austin with the sack. Our 2nd D-line might be good enough to start.

[Bronco4ever]

Thompson flashing some speed and power.

[Bronco4ever]

Might as well throw a flag every play at this point.

[CrazyHorse]

Thompson looks good.

[Bronco4ever]

Thompson looks good... and now hurt. Damn.

[Dzone]

shoul.d have been 15 yards that dude body slammed juwan out of bounds and drove his head into the ground...these refs are horrific

[Bronco4ever]

27 is a punk. Check ya later!

[nevcraw]

want to see Oz throw it some!

[wayninja]

I'm a little behind since I had to work, but it's been like 3 hours and the 3rd quarter is still young. Is this whole game one big shit bag of penalties or what?

If this is what the season is going to be like... **** me.

[Bronco4ever]

I'm a little behind since I had to work, but it's been like 3 hours and the 3rd quarter is still young. Is this whole game one big shit bag of penalties or what?

If this is what the season is going to be like... **** me.

Lightning delay. I'm not sure how long it lasted. 30 mins? The penalties are definitely slowing the game down though.

[artie_dale]

Anyone else think Brock's deep balls float too much?

[Dzone]

Osweiller not impressive. He looks tentative at times. Hope we see some Dysert.
20 penalties thru 3 quarters is ridiculous. At this pace, this game will end sometime friday morning....
Awesome that Juwan Thompson is back in the game...oh great another flag on the first play of the 4th. These refs are p-athetic...Im sure they were told by goddell et al to throw the laundry tonight
Quanterus Smith is a serious athlete...He has julius peppers type skill...he is going to be a force
Another penalty, zapplollo says it is comical now...

[BroncoJoe]

Anyone else think Brock's deep balls float too much?

Seems tentative, and definitely trying to ease the ball in there. I know he's got an arm and he needs to put some heat on his throws.

[Dzone]

Ya the Duke-Manning connection is paying off...Aninuke and Thompson look to be making the team

[Simple Jaded]

Anyone else think Brock's deep balls float too much?

Hit Latimer right in the hands, besides, they're supposed to put air under it.

[sneakers]

How is Brockembe Motumbo doing tonight?

[Simple Jaded]

Team Edward! Whoot whoot.

[Dzone]

So what if it is preseason, losing this game tonight to the seahawks will suck ass
edit-Thank you little Stevie! It was looking bleak and you Saved the victory
Snapping seattles 9 game preseason winning streak is awesome , esp since carroll treats thim like real games. We punched seattle in the mouth tonight..granted, they sat 18 players, but we met their toughness and exceeded it

[Hawgdriver]

Good game--no injuries (hopefully that's nothing serious with Talib or CJ), a lot of talent on display, and a meaningful win in a meaningless game. Plenty to improve upon, but the season is starting on the right foot.

[TXBRONC]

So what if it is preseason, losing this game tonight to the seahawks will suck ass
edit-Thank you little Stevie! It was looking bleak and you Saved the victory

It's always leaves a sour taste in your mouth if the Broncos lose even in the preseason but if Denver had I wouldn't to disappointed. The reason being is that first and second stringers looked pretty good other than the penalties.

[GEM]

Pretty exciting seeing us have some talented depth.

[Hawgdriver]

Wolfe looked like a freakin tank on that tackle...

He looked primitive tonight, I'm stoked.

[Dzone]

The difference between Thompson/Bibbs and Hillman is that Bibbs and Thompson require gang tackling and Hillman does not...Hillman is fast, but he isnt going to hurt anyone

[sneakers]

CELLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEBRATE GOOD BRONCOS

C'mON!

OH BRONCOS BRONCOS

[NightTerror218]

Our back up RB looked good. Cj Anderson may not have a roster spot guerenteed. Thompson and Bibs had some great runs.

[Hawgdriver]

Thompson making an impact as a physical runner. If the reports of his blocking acumen are true, he'll be sure to get a good look with the first team offense. Nothing wrong with a punishing running back and road grader linemen to sap an opponent's will to play. I'd love to see Thompson lay the wood on the Seattle secondary come regular season, even if he's not as elusive and as high of a yards-per-carry back as Ball. Just to send a message.

[Dzone]

Quanterus Smith looked like Alabama game all over again...he was all over the place...Incredible athlete with speed and power...

[MOtorboat]

The hold on Vasquez was a phantom hold. That was a terrible call.

First team defense looks pretty good after one series, minus the penalty.

[MOtorboat]

Anderson's cutback looked good, but called back on the formation penalty. D. Thomas is abusing Maxwell.

[MOtorboat]

The difference between Thompson/Bibbs and Hillman is that Bibbs and Thompson require gang tackling and Hillman does not...Hillman is fast, but he isnt going to hurt anyone

I somewhat disagree. He broke two tackles and it took three Seahawks to tackle him on the first down run out of the shotgun on the second drive.

In general, yes, he's a different type of back, though. Granted, I'm only watching this as it comes on here on NFLN, but I think Hillman looks better than last year. Thompson and Bibbs were also playing scrubs who won't be on rosters in three weeks, too.

[ShaneFalco]

tj ward got stiff armed by R Wilson?

What a chump. "hard hitting safety"

ya ya, last time i believe a word about a Browns "star".

[silkamilkamonico]

Undrafted RB's looked real good, especially Thompson/Bibbs.

Our first 2 picks with Roby and Latimer I was not impressed with at all.

[MOtorboat]

tj ward got stiff armed by R Wilson?

What a chump. "hard hitting safety"

ya ya, last time i believe a word about a Browns "star".

Lol.

[MOtorboat]

LMAO...three plays later, he comes flying off the edge and sacks Wilson..."what a chump!"

[MOtorboat]

Another shit call.

[chazoe60]

Quit bitching about officiating MO.

[MOtorboat]

Quit bitching about officiating MO.

It was pretty bad tonight, apparently.

[Hawgdriver]

I somewhat disagree. He broke two tackles and it took three Seahawks to tackle him on the first down run out of the shotgun on the second drive.

In general, yes, he's a different type of back, though. Granted, I'm only watching this as it comes on here on NFLN, but I think Hillman looks better than last year. Thompson and Bibbs were also playing scrubs who won't be on rosters in three weeks, too.

It's hard to ignore what your eyes tell you when guys like Thompson and Bibbs run wild even though it's against 2d or 3d teamers. But you are right, and it's worth remembering it's scrub on scrub action. Still, Thompson does have a style of running that jumps out at you, and I'll keep an eye on him.

[MOtorboat]

It's hard to ignore what your eyes tell you when guys like Thompson and Bibbs run wild even though it's against 2d or 3d teamers. But you are right, and it's worth remembering it's scrub on scrub action. Still, Thompson does have a style of running that jumps out at you, and I'll keep an eye on him.

He does. My comments came before I saw that.

[MOtorboat]

Osweiler's seam pass to Norwood was special.

He has the arm. But Broncos fans are familiar with quarterbacks who have the arm, but not everything else.

[Timmy!]

tj ward got stiff armed by R Wilson?

What a chump. "hard hitting safety"

ya ya, last time i believe a word about a Browns "star".

Put the pipe down Chong. TJ is the goods.

[Timmy!]

Overall impressions: Dline has more depth than I have ever seen. The defense overall seems more physical. Clady makes a difference on the O-line. Thompson makes this team. After a bad pick, OZ lead a nice drive.

[Timmy!]

LMAO...three plays later, he comes flying off the edge and sacks Wilson..."what a chump!"

Stupid chump....leading all NFL dbs in tackles for loss last season. To quote hoes "hack!"

[tomjonesrocks]

How did Irving look? Haven't read his name in camp reports -- wondered how he's doing.

[Timmy!]

How did Irving look? Haven't read his name in camp reports -- wondered how he's doing.

Surprisingly pretty good. He was in on a lot of plays and making the correct reads.

[MOtorboat]

Surprisingly pretty good. He was in on a lot of plays and making the correct reads.

Penalty should be noted, but it wasn't egregious.

[tomjonesrocks]

How many backs can Denver keep on the roster?

Seems like if Thompson is killing it and Hillman keeps getting chances, Bibbs goes to the PS...

[Timmy!]

Penalty should be noted, but it wasn't egregious.

1/2/the penalties were bullshit. Some were legit, but holy shit zebras settle down.

[Timmy!]

How many backs can Denver keep on the roster?

Seems like if Thompson is killing it and Hillman keeps getting chances, Bibbs goes to the PS...

No more than 4, if that......and Thompson is a special teams stud, I think he makes it, so do ball (obviously) and hillman.

[ShaneFalco]

LMAO...three plays later, he comes flying off the edge and sacks Wilson..."what a chump!"

i would hope so. Getting stiff armed by some little ass qb is pretty embarrassing. Glad he redeemed himself. I didnt get to see rest of game. Did he lay Wilson out?

[artie_dale]

Nice to see Brock redeem himself with that great TD pass. Latimer didn't impress. Great defensive line play by our 2nd/3rd stringers.

Overall happy with the balanced play. Hillman is not the answer, imo, but I was pleasantly pleased and surprised by Thompson. Hope C.J. bounces back quickly.

[Northman]

Didnt catch the game. Anyone got cliff notes? I see by the box score Thompson did well which makes me happy.

[artie_dale]

Didnt catch the game. Anyone got cliff notes? I see by the box score Thompson did well which makes me happy.

Well, off the top of my head:

Peyton and DT have great chemistry.
Peyton had some ducks... more than I'm comfortable with.
Hillman did "okay", imo. (he did score the first TD)
Julius Thomas didn't show much.
E. Saunders didn't catch anything.
Welker showed up, nearly scored with Peyton under pressure.
The penalties were outrageous. No tempo in the game at all until our rookie RB's started getting touches.
C.J. got plowed and removed due to concussion.
Brock seemed a bit cautious at first, but he was consistant extending plays with his legs (reminds me of Rothlisberger being hard to arm tackle). I thought his deep balls floated, but he did zip it nicely for his only TD pass.

The overall D-line put pretty good pressure on the QB and stopped the run (Lynch didn't play), imo.
D-Ware ran Russell Wilson down for a 1 yd loss (Russell scrambled).
Irving played really great. Was on a lot of tackles.
TJ Ward put a lot of pressure on the QB (forced Wilson to scramble and extend plays).
Wolfe had a sack, I think, or a tackle for a loss (he looks solid).
Travathon seemed to pick up where he left off.
Talib hurt his arm making a great openfield tackle (it wasn't a light hit), but I think he'll be fine.

Juwan Thompson was the highlight reel of the game. He broke some big gains via off tackles AND cuts through the line. Honestly reminded me of TD a little bit. And, when he was brought down, he was falling foward and his tacklers were falling backward. Strong runner!

Seattle wouldn't have scored their 1st offense's TD had it not been for Bronco penalties prolonging drives. The Broncso looked really well and balanced in all aspects, imo.

P.S. Our starting O-Line looked really great against the Seattle starting D-Line. Clady is a difference maker.

[BroncoNut]

what about the defense? how did Roby do? sounds like a real fun game to have watched. I'm not to big on preseason though, the A-teamers hold back

[artie_dale]

what about the defense? how did Roby do? sounds like a real fun game to have watched. I'm not to big on preseason though, the A-teamers hold back

Oh yeah, Roby. He was up and down. Looks like growing pains to me (getting used to the speed ability of professional rcvrs). In coverage, seems more reactive right now, but may be athletic enough to stay with and react better to rcvrs.

I'm with ya, Nut. I don't put much stock into the preseason, but I am paying a lot of attention to Brock Osweiller. I'm really looking for him to step up his game. He seemed good and accurate on the short routes, but didn't complete anything deep.


OH, and our starting O-Line looked really great against the Seattle starting D-Line. Clady is a difference maker.

[Northman]

Well, off the top of my head:

Peyton and DT have great chemistry.
Peyton had some ducks... more than I'm comfortable with.
Hillman did "okay", imo. (he did score the first TD)
Julius Thomas didn't show much.
E. Saunders didn't catch anything.
Welker showed up, nearly scored with Peyton under pressure.
The penalties were outrageous. No tempo in the game at all until our rookie RB's started getting touches.
C.J. got plowed and removed due to concussion.
Brock seemed a bit cautious at first, but he was consistant extending plays with his legs (reminds me of Rothlisberger being hard to arm tackle). I thought his deep balls floated, but he did zip it nicely for his only TD pass.

The overall D-line put pretty good pressure on the QB and stopped the run (Lynch didn't play), imo.
D-Ware ran Russell Wilson down for a 1 yd loss (Russell scrambled).
Irving played really great. Was on a lot of tackles.
TJ Ward put a lot of pressure on the QB (forced Wilson to scramble and extend plays).


Wolfe had a sack, I think, or a tackle for a loss (he looks solid).
Travathon seemed to pick up where he left off.
Talib hurt his arm making a great openfield tackle (it wasn't a light hit), but I think he'll be fine.

Juwan Thompson was the highlight reel of the game. He broke some big gains via off tackles AND cuts through the line. Honestly reminded me of TD a little bit. And, when he was brought down, he was falling foward and his tacklers were falling backward. Strong runner!

Seattle wouldn't have scored their 1st offense's TD had it not been for Bronco penalties prolonging drives. The Broncso looked really well and balanced in all aspects, imo.

P.S. Our starting O-Line looked really great against the Seattle starting D-Line. Clady is a difference maker.


Thanks for the info man. \m/

[BroncoNut]

Oh yeah, Roby. He was up and down. Looks like growing pains to me (getting used to the speed ability of professional rcvrs). In coverage, seems more reactive right now, but may be athletic enough to stay with and react better to rcvrs.

I'm with ya, Nut. I don't put much stock into the preseason, but I am paying a lot of attention to Brock Osweiller. I'm really looking for him to step up his game. He seemed good and accurate on the short routes, but didn't complete anything deep.

OH, and our starting O-Line looked really great against the Seattle starting D-Line. Clady is a difference maker.

this is all good to hear, especially on Osweiller, preseason games are valuable for that kinda thing (young backup qb) imo anyway. I'm sure tubby will have some kind of a smart ass comment about how retarded I am or something on that though, so stay tuned

[atwater27]

Our offensive and defensive lines did a great job, especially the starters. This is an awesome sign for the season. These guys would have kept the Super Bowl a lot closer at least. The young running backs look promising. Seattles defense is so freaking good and intimidating. They really must be scary to play against, I don't care who you are.

[artie_dale]

Our offensive and defensive lines did a great job, especially the starters. This is an awesome sign for the season. These guys would have kept the Super Bowl a lot closer at least. The young running backs look promising. Seattles defense is so freaking good and intimidating. They really must be scary to play against, I don't care who you are.

I didn't notice if Cam Chancelor was playing. That guy is a beast.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

DENVER- Peyton Manning and the first team offense didn’t play past the first quarter. While he and his multitude of weapons were on the field on Thursday night, they did make an impact – showing glimpses of the offensive magic we saw last season and giving the second team offense a one-touchdown cushion as they came on the field in the second quarter.

While Manning went 10-of-13 for 78 yards and his second quarter relief Brock Osweiler added 85 yards of his own, No. 18 was particularly impressed with the team’s progress on the ground. The Broncos racked up 116 yards on the ground.

“It’s nice to get some reps in the run game and the pass game,” Manning said. “I thought Ronnie [Hillman] and C.J. [Anderson] had a couple nice runs. Certainly Montee [Ball’s] injury is another opportunity for those guys to get some reps, so we’ll see a lot from the film. Definitely some good things out there.”

rest - http://www.denverbroncos.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Peytons-Take-Broncos-Seahawks/23249ab3-57b3-4984-9d66-a40a08e62a23

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Review all the action of the Broncos' preseason game against the Seahawks with full highlights and play-by-play.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/How-it-Happened-Broncos-Seahawks/b2e02ad4-8ece-4cae-a80a-abe532b7cd4e

[MOtorboat]

Obligatory:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGDBR2L5kzI

[silkamilkamonico]

Quanterus SMith had some very nice consistent pressure. I wonder where he stands in the scheme of things.

Some other teams are going to get some very good/potentital with our dlinemen that don't make the team.

[Dzone]

Besides the flags, that was one of the best damn preseason games in years. We have some serious talent on this team.
Wondering how Talibs shoulder is today and CJs concussion...Not sure if there were any other injuries

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Andrew Mason @MaseDenver · 16s

Most snaps last night: Offense, Paul Cornick (38); defense, Duke Ihenacho & Bradley Roby (40 apiece); special teams, Steven Johnson (14).

Andrew Mason @MaseDenver · 2m

Trevathan's PI flag: more legit than Irving call. But not by much. Could've gotten Baldwin for off. PI. No call

Retweeted by Andrew Mason
C.J. Anderson @CjAndersonRB9 · 12m

I jus wana take the time 2 thank The Lord everything is going 2 be ok

Andrew Mason @MaseDenver · 11m

Irving's illegal-contact penalty: maybe the softest contact I've ever seen draw a flag. Didn't impact route. Wouldn't be a foul in soccer.

Andrew Mason @MaseDenver · 23m

I, for one, eagerly anticipate the 4 1/2-hour game that looms. RT @Mikedecicco: Wow. The refs are making this game unwatchable. Geez.

Andrew Mason @MaseDenver · 1h

ICYMI: @DeMarcusWare wasted no time showing "brutal nasty" (http://dbron.co/4i4 ) & Three Questions, Answered (http://dbron.co/4i8 ).
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Andrew Mason @MaseDenver · 11h

Behind Thompson. He did well, but Thompson was terrific & didn't do anything to move down. RT @Joe_Black1062: @WoldsWorld What about Bibbs?

Andrew Mason @MaseDenver · 11h

In his Denver debut, @DeMarcusWare wasted no time setting the "brutal nasty" tone. More here: http://dbron.co/4i4

Andrew Mason @MaseDenver · 11h

Looking back at my 3 questions -- RBs, Osweiler & emerging defenders. How were they answered? http://dbron.co/4i8

Andrew Mason @MaseDenver · 12h

All fine. Anderson's concussion was the only injury, Fox said. RT @projectksl: any updates on TALIB, Trev, or Moore? They all good?

Andrew Mason @MaseDenver · 13h

#Broncos RB Juwan Thompson: "I do like to make people feel the pain & make sure they don't try to tackle me the next time."

[Denver Native (Carol)]

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2014/08/08/broncos-locker-room-interviews/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

[Denver Native (Carol)]

DENVER – Just how healthy did DeMarcus Ware look in his preseason debut for his new team?

Let’s ask Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson, who on Thursday night seemed to be constantly trying to outrun the new Denver Broncos’ defensive end. Ware sacked Wilson once in the first quarter of Denver’s 21-16 win, pressured Wilson into an incomplete throw and recorded a tackle for a loss in limited action.

“He is a force,” Wilson said late Thursday night. “He’s right there on every play.”

rest - http://q.usatoday.com/2014/08/08/how-did-the-broncos-big-ticket-free-agents-fare-in-preseason-debut/

[TXBRONC]

Our offensive and defensive lines did a great job, especially the starters. This is an awesome sign for the season. These guys would have kept the Super Bowl a lot closer at least. The young running backs look promising. Seattles defense is so freaking good and intimidating. They really must be scary to play against, I don't care who you are.

Part of their reputation is built on them doing things like they did in the end zone when Hillman scored.

[atwater27]

Part of their reputation is built on them doing things like they did in the end zone when Hillman scored.

I know what you are saying, but the talent and the coaching are there. They are an amazing defense, especially in this pass offense friendly league.

[TXBRONC]

Quanterus SMith had some very nice consistent pressure. I wonder where he stands in the scheme of things.

Some other teams are going to get some very good/potentital with our dlinemen that don't make the team.

I don't see him getting cut. If he keeps playing that against better competition he could easily end up in the starting line up eventually.

[TXBRONC]

I know what you are saying, but the talent and the coaching are there. They are an amazing defense, especially in this pass offense friendly league.

I agree they are very talented on defense.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Free agents need moments.

Juwan Thompson went undrafted and signed with the Broncos for $3,500. The minimal investment explains the urgency to capitalize on every chance.

Thompson's arrived Thursday with 6:41 remaining in the second quarter of the Broncos' exhibition game with the Seattle Seahawks. From the shotgun, quarterback Brock Osweiler handed to Thompson, who motored around right end for 18 yards.

"It took a long time for me to get into the game," said Thompson, his debut delayed by the 45-minute lightning stoppage. "Just like coach says, 'You've got to be ready to go. There's only one opportunity to play in the NFL.'^"

rest - http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_26302767/juwan-thompson-battles-into-mix-playing-time-at

[Denver Native (Carol)]

The preseason can only tell us so much. It helps to decide some starting jobs. It gives us a peek at some promising rookies. And it proves that some veterans are healthy once again.

It only took one quarter of action Thursday night in Denver to realize that DeMarcus Ware is back to being DeMarcus Ware.

In his brief work, Ware recorded a quarterback sack, stuffed a run at the line of scrimmage and recorded two more quarterback pressures. His best play was wiped out by a penalty, but it showed that Ware is feeling like his old self.

rest - http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000375632/article/demarcus-ware-looks-healthy-again-for-broncos

[DenBronx]

Our offensive and defensive lines did a great job, especially the starters. This is an awesome sign for the season. These guys would have kept the Super Bowl a lot closer at least. The young running backs look promising. Seattles defense is so freaking good and intimidating. They really must be scary to play against, I don't care who you are.

I didn't notice if Cam Chancelor was playing. That guy is a beast.

He's a game changer.

[Hawgdriver]

I'm about as excited as I can get about a free agent about this Thompson kid.


Thompson brings a puncher's chance of making the roster because he's built like a boxer, a sculpted 5-foot-11, 225 pounds.

That surprised me, the dude plays like he's 245 or something. Then I find out he's academic all-conference and he's saying, "I love to pass block, I love special teams"--I'm rooting for this dude big time.

[atwater27]

Yeah, # 40 was not wasting any time after he got the handoff. He finds the hole but-quick.

[EastCoastBronco]

Yeah, # 40 was not wasting any time after he got the handoff. He finds the hole but-quick.

I hope he gets some reps with the first team so we can see how he performs against a first string D.
That's always the illusion with these guys. They look like monsters against 3rd and 4th stringers.
If he smashes away like that against a first string D in week 4 of the pre-season...look out.

[atwater27]

I hope he gets some reps with the first team so we can see how he performs against a first string D.
That's always the illusion with these guys. They look like monsters against 3rd and 4th stringers.
If he smashes away like that against a first string D in week 4 of the pre-season...look out.

Yeah, but there are a lot of guys who can't even run good against 3rd and 4th stringers. Also, you gotta remember that he had 3rd and 4th stringers blocking for him.

[artie_dale]

Yeah, but there are a lot of guys who can't even run good against 3rd and 4th stringers. Also, you gotta remember that he had 3rd and 4th stringers blocking for him.

Yeah, Thompson won me over. He's a rookie, first preseason game, ran around and through defenders with 2nd, 3rd, & 4th stringers blocking for him.

Hillman = still not impressed.

C.J. = always have hopes for him, but he seems to not be able to get over a hump that has been in his way the entire time he's been in Denver.

[Hawgdriver]

Yeah, Thompson won me over. He's a rookie, first preseason game, ran around and through defenders with 2nd, 3rd, & 4th stringers blocking for him.

Hillman = still not impressed.

C.J. = always have hopes for him, but he seems to not be able to get over a hump that has been in his way the entire time he's been in Denver.

That was bad luck for CJ. I saw when he got hit he had the old fencing response that was a sign of a concussion. Unlucky, hit at an awkward angle in the wrong spot of the crown. I hope he doesn't feel the need to rush back and the medical staff learns their lesson from Wolfe, he could be an important part of the season. He's probably a legit #2 considering his time in the system. I see JT as making the roster as a versatile, grindy football player and a nice "salt the game" change of pace back late in games to seal a win (the pace = you tackle me you feel pain so just give up already). I'd rather have CJ, Hillman (ball security issues the only caveat), and Ball when the Broncos are losing or even.