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Joel
12-03-2013, 10:15 PM
It makes far more sense in the seasons last month than in its first (though I still prefer a Super Bowl win to breaking any or all of them.)

Team scoring (589 pts) We've scored 464 pts in 12 games, an average of 38.75/gm; if we average 31 over our last 4 games we'll finish with 588. So it's very doable if we keep scoring the 35 we did @KC, but even averaging the 31 we had @NE will leave us feeling like Adrian Peterson when he came up 9 yds short of the season rushing record last year.

Team Passing TDs (51) Ironically, Brady WASN'T on EITHER of the two teams ('04 Colts, '11 Pack) that hold this record, but Manning WAS. 10 more will tie and 11 break it, same as with QB TDs.

Individual Passing TDs (50) Sundays 5 TDs helped Mannings case a lot: He's up to 41 on the year now, an average of just under 3.5/game; the record's 50, so he needs to average 2.5 over the last 4 games to break it. Technically, the player record for TOTAL TDs is 52, because Brady ran for 2 the year he threw 50; Manning's run for 1 so far, so 11 more would break that one, too.

Individual Passing Yards (5476) This one may be hardest; Manning has 4125 through 12 games, an average of 343.75/gm, but Brees averaged barely 1 yd less (342.3) setting the record. Still very doable, but Mannings average can't slip >6 yds or the record holds.

There are surely others within reach, if not grasp, but there are LOTS of records, and many get quite obscure, so those interested in hunting down each one to see if we have a shot at it are referred here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Football_League_records_(team) and here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Records_(Individual)

Our next opponents are 9th, 29th, 19th and 3rd in yards allowed, 7th, 28th, 2nd and 24th in passing yards allowed and 17th, 22nd, 20th and 10th in rushing yards allowed. We can run on all but (maybe) Oakland if the line run blocks better than in recent months (they've been pass blocking well since the SD game though, and that's the top priority on any team with PFM.) Hopefully our injured defensive starters return soon and we can create and exploit a few turnovers into the bargain.

Tennessee and Houston are good vs. passing, but Tennessee only has one good pass rusher (DT Jurrell Casey, 8 sacks) and CB (Alterraun Verner, 5 Ints) so we may be able to take advantage of them at home. Houstons D is tough, and our first priority IS protecting the franchise, but they've historically been vulnerable to the long ball, even with Wade Phillips as DC. The Bolts and Faders secondaries are HIGHLY flammable; hopefully we torch them (as in the first Raiders game) especially with SD at home.

Peyton Manning's no longer on pace for >70 TDs and >7000 yds, but it was never realistic to expect the whole season to go like the first month, when health, weather and quality of opponents all favored us. Even now those early stats are still inflating the season averages a bit—but not like when they WERE the season average. Games like that 150 yd 2 TD performance @NE have been factored in also, and the pace is still high enough to break all the records in play at the start. Whether our remaining games break any season records remains an open question....

BroncoWave
12-03-2013, 10:17 PM
I think we get points and both of the TD records. Yards will be the tough one. That could go either way. He is barely on pace for it though.

Dapper Dan
12-03-2013, 10:54 PM
I read an entire Joel post. Good topic. Good information.

Broncolingus
12-03-2013, 11:17 PM
I read an entire Joel post. Good topic. Good information.

Ditto...

Joel
12-03-2013, 11:23 PM
I think we get points and both of the TD records. Yards will be the tough one. That could go either way. He is barely on pace for it though.
I'm on the fence on the season scoring record; 31/game is a tough average to maintain, and Houston and Tennessee both have good defenses. They DO have vulnerabilities though, and a few weeks after Manning became the first person in 40 years to throw 7 TDs in a game, Foles joined him against Oakland, so shredding their poor D on the road and SDs weak secondary at home might be the difference. If Ball keeps breaking big gains like his last 2 games without reviving his fumbling problem, he and Moreno could tear up all four of our last opponents.

It's just, averaging >31 pts 4 games straight is hard, even for us. Certainly possible; as it turns out, we've averaged PRECISELY 31 our LAST 4 games, easily the toughest stretch of the year (the only really good opponents we've faced other than Indy, thrice in 4 games, with Del Rio replacing Fox at the start.) It's just a really big number to maintain a whole year, especially if DT and JT are gone long. I'm still concerned about CJ2K gashing us without Big Vick in the middle (Charles averaged 4.9/carry last week; glad they kept passing and dropping.)

I agree the TD record looks pretty good, though the individual total is harder. At this point in the season with his ankles taped it's hard to see Manning jogging in for another. If he has another game with 4 or 5 though (as he easily could against SD or Oakland) at least one of those records should be in the bag. Yards, yeah, that'll be an accomplishment at this point; there the first month of blowouts really are the only reason we're still on pace (on the other hand, that NE game DOES skew the average.)

Oh, there was one more notable record I forgot: Team TDs, which the '07 Cheatriots also got with 50 through the air, 17 on the ground, 6 on D and 2 on returns for a total of 75. So far we have 41 through the air, 14 on the ground, 2 on D, 2 on returns and 1 on a blocked kick for a total of 60. So that one's also within reach, but won't be easy.

BroncoWave
12-03-2013, 11:25 PM
We've only been held below 31 twice in 12 games. I see no reason we can't keep that average up over the last 4 weeks.

Lancane
12-03-2013, 11:30 PM
We've only been held below 31 twice in 12 games. I see no reason we can't keep that average up over the last 4 weeks.

So who's going to offer the hookers as a bonus if the offense can make it happen? Rav, Nut, Mo or DB?

Joel
12-03-2013, 11:36 PM
We've only been held below 31 twice in 12 games. I see no reason we can't keep that average up over the last 4 weeks.
Well, one of those was against the team we play in two weeks, but I'm more concerned (and not just for sake of records) about the health of the Thomases. And continuing to protect Manning, naturally, but Clark seems to have gotten that worked out, and the rest have done a pretty good job all year (though Ramirez hasn't been consistent, just MUCH better than at guard.) We haven't faced a defense like Houstons yet either; maybe KC, but they've been kind of tame ever since our first meeting. It only takes one game to blow it when we need that much each week.

Dapper Dan
12-03-2013, 11:44 PM
So who's going to offer the hookers as a bonus if the offense can make it happen? Rav, Nut, Mo or DB?

Surely MO knows some midget hookers.

CrazyHorse
12-04-2013, 10:12 AM
Our next two games our at home against teams Manning should be familiar with. Our last two games might be on the road but they're warm weather which is good for our passing offense. I think Manning throws at least 3 TD's the next 4 games and gets the record. I think we get points too. Even more impressive is that we could finish with 3 receivers over a 1,000 yards and 5 players with double digit TD's on offense, D. Thomas, J. Thomas, Decker, Welker, and Moreno. Of course all of these records will be empty if the team fails to accomplish their ultimate goal of a championship.

TXBRONC
12-04-2013, 10:28 AM
So who's going to offer the hookers as a bonus if the offense can make it happen? Rav, Nut, Mo or DB?

It will be a joint venture.

CrazyHorse
12-04-2013, 10:49 AM
Hookers would be too much of a distraction. We can't have the team contracting syphilis right before the playoffs.

TXBRONC
12-04-2013, 10:50 AM
Well, one of those was against the team we play in two weeks, but I'm more concerned (and not just for sake of records) about the health of the Thomases. And continuing to protect Manning, naturally, but Clark seems to have gotten that worked out, and the rest have done a pretty good job all year (though Ramirez hasn't been consistent, just MUCH better than at guard.) We haven't faced a defense like Houstons yet either; maybe KC, but they've been kind of tame ever since our first meeting. It only takes one game to blow it when we need that much each week.

Well when Denver faced the Chargers last it was in San Diego this time it will be in Denver. Also they held Denver to 28 point at their place so it was by field goal that they held Denver to under 30 points.

Joel
12-04-2013, 06:21 PM
Well when Denver faced the Chargers last it was in San Diego this time it will be in Denver. Also they held Denver to 28 point at their place so it was by field goal that they held Denver to under 30 points.
Good points both, but holding us even a FG <31 pts would force us to score >34 once even with 31 in the other two. Records are made to be broken, but that's not the sole reason they exist.

Same goes for all the others; the TD record is quite attainable, since Manning needs "only" 3 TDs/game, but 3 TDs/game is PRECISELY what he was averaging before the 5 last Sunday. It's what Marino averaged setting the record then thought unbreakable; only Manning and Brady have done better in a season, and only by 1 and 2 TDs. Todays passing craze takes some shine off, but even so 3 TDs/game remains a lot. Even if we score like crazy and break the team TD record, just a FEW goal line handoffs to Moreno and/or Ball could deny Manning the record.

Just like last year: Adrian Peterson ran for 200 yds against GB, and his last carry was a HUGE one that won the game and sent Minnesota to the playoffs—but he was tackled at the 11, so they sent out the FG unit to break the tie and Peterson finished 9 yds short of the record anyway. Records exist for a reason, even if few last forever.

Joel
12-04-2013, 06:25 PM
Just to be clear, I DO agree SD at home is a golden opportunity to give the team and Manning a cushion on the chase for some records, but we'd have to really light them up to do it. Another 28 would be nice, and likely win the game, but put us behind the curve in terms of the record. To seal the deal(s) we need another game like the Ravens or Eagles (for the "record," two teams have scored 50+ twice in one season; no one's done it thrice since the merger.)

Poet
12-04-2013, 07:13 PM
The Texans play man-to-man as much as the Chiefs. Manning probably is throwing for five TD's against them, but I think he gets three, perhaps four.

Joel
12-04-2013, 08:11 PM
The Texans play man-to-man as much as the Chiefs. Manning probably is throwing for five TD's against them, but I think he gets three, perhaps four.
I think it depends on our pass blocking there; Houston's got a good rush (as you likely recall; Andy Dalton surely does...) but when QBs stayed alive they were torching that secondary for years before Wade took over as DC, and that's one of the few areas he hasn't improved their defense much. I can't count how many times I've seen them push an offense back on back-to-back downs only to give up a huge pass on 3rd and pack a lunch. Once last year it was a 70 yd TD bomb on (IIRC) 3rd and 30-something against the Colts, which helped cost them playoff homefield.

If we're reasonably healthy and give Manning even a little time in he can light up that secondary just in time for Christmas. Could be a rough day for Kareem Jackson (but then, most are.)

AllThings18
12-04-2013, 08:23 PM
Let's try this again.

Perfect thread for this chart.
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WR Pace
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Joel
12-04-2013, 09:25 PM
Let's try this again.

Perfect thread for this chart.
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WR Pace
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IMG didn't work, sorry. Good charts though, thanks. I gave up on total team yards from scrimmage for the reason you stated: Factoring NOs quite good rushing total in setting the record makes it VERY hard to think we'll top it. 500 offensive yds/game is a LOT, however obtained. Once or twice, if Manning passes for 400 and our RBs rush for 100, but four times straight? No way.

The completions record was much the same, a byproduct of Brees' stunning 71% accuracy that year; it'll be very hard for anyone to break the first record without at least approaching the second. About the only other way is a crapton of attempts every game, and (considering what that usually means) I prefer Manning not get NEAR that record. ;)

If Orange Julius comes back strong and has another monster game somewhere the 4 Broncos might get 1000 yds receiving (Welker getting another 300 might be the harder mark to hit then.) The 4 receivers with 10 TDs looks good as long as Decker doesn't disappear again. It's unlikely anyone gets 100 catches, but that's a BIG milestone; most WRs NEVER hit it, and I only know two times two guys on the same team got there the same year (Herman Moore and Brett Perriman were first with the '95 Lions, and had exactly 200 combined in '96, but Moore had "more.")

Rating, well, there are enough variables it's possible, but not likely and not worth much anyway. The Passer Rating System says outright it doesn't rate QBs, just PASSERS, but doesn't even do that WELL: It rates West Coast Offenders. The real wonder is Brees DIDN'T break the record with his record-setting completion percentage, because that's really all the PRS is about; it just adds bonuses for yards and TDs (and penalties for Ints.) Go 3/3 for 10.5 yds, you've got a 100.7 PR; keep throwing those 3.5 yd passes all day and you always will. You'll punt a lot, too. :tsk:

Or how 'bout this: Even if you never get a TD NOR gain EVEN A YARD, you'll STILL have an 85.4 PR as long as you NEVER miss. Complete every pass for 3 yds and you're at 97.9—but NEVER get a first down except by penalty. The PRS is a REALLY bad system, but gets away with it because the NFL obscures its fairly simple mechanics behind enough smoke and mirrors most people never know how it really works (and thus why it doesn't.) If you know the formula you can probably figure out most game ratings in your head, but it'll leave a bad taste in your mouth.

DenBronx
12-05-2013, 05:28 PM
Good thread Joel!

AllThings18
12-09-2013, 02:29 PM
Manning 2014
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WR Targets
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https://24.media.tumblr.com/692ff5a4cdce9d99ee152de7e54e464d/tumblr_mxjznrZRLI1s5gh7fo1_r1_1280.jpg
WR Pace
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Chasing Favre
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40+td
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Simple Jaded
12-09-2013, 03:58 PM
Yeah I stand corrected, AllAbout18 can rival Joel.

ForgettingBrandonMarshall
12-09-2013, 04:14 PM
Soooooooooo…..many……..chartsssssssssss

Joel
12-10-2013, 06:17 AM
I agree the concussion from Brandon "The refs pick on me but I ain't done NOTHIN'!" Pollard probably prevents Welker reaching 1000 yds. I still don't see the team yardage record going down, though anything's possible. We got the 500 yd game but, again, four straight are unlikely. Although if we get into a shootout with the Bolts all totals could climb high against their pathetic D. The passing yardage record's very doable though, especially with SD and Oakland upcoming.

It'll be interesting to see what happens if we win our next two and NE loses one (they've come VERY close against BAD teams the past two weeks, and are @Miami and @Baltimore next.) If we've already clinched playoff homefield when we go to Oakland, does Manning start...?


Soooooooooo…..many……..chartsssssssssss
It's not THAT many, the IMG tags just aren't working.

Dapper Dan
12-10-2013, 01:18 PM
I like the charts.

AllThings18
12-10-2013, 03:17 PM
It's not THAT many, the IMG tags just aren't working.

I'm not sure what you mean by that. I've seen you mention it twice.

I post the image in the tags, and then post it as a link so that it can be blown up larger if needed, depending on how legible they are on various screens.

Joel
12-11-2013, 12:25 PM
I'm not sure what you mean by that. I've seen you mention it twice.

I post the image in the tags, and then post it as a link so that it can be blown up larger if needed, depending on how legible they are on various screens.
Maybe it's just my computer, but I don't get the charts in the image tags; it just displays as the same link twice.

AllThings18
12-11-2013, 04:17 PM
Maybe it's just my computer, but I don't get the charts in the image tags; it just displays as the same link twice.


I'm not sure. They show up IMAGE then link for me. Maybe others can chime in with what the see.

Dapper Dan
12-11-2013, 06:06 PM
Everything works for me.

Joel
12-11-2013, 07:36 PM
Everything works for me.
So there IS a Broncos Forums conspiracy against me! I knew it111 :foilhat:

Dapper Dan
12-11-2013, 07:39 PM
So there IS a Broncos Forums conspiracy against me! I knew it111 :foilhat:

Join Lord chronic in the pot forum.

Joel
12-11-2013, 09:29 PM
Join Lord chronic in the pot forum.
Don't tell me what to do! This is a free country, fascist111 :tongue:

Dapper Dan
12-11-2013, 10:42 PM
Don't tell me what to do! This is a free country, fascist111 :tongue:

But this isn't a free site. Tned runs this and he takes his orders from Furer Elway.

Simple Jaded
12-12-2013, 12:12 AM
So there IS a Broncos Forums conspiracy against me! I knew it111 :foilhat:

The charts are big and orange and take up half the page, you see them yet?

sneakers
12-12-2013, 01:01 AM
It makes far more sense in the seasons last month than in its first (though I still prefer a Super Bowl win to breaking any or all of them.)

Team scoring (589 pts) We've scored 464 pts in 12 games, an average of 38.75/gm; if we average 31 over our last 4 games we'll finish with 588. So it's very doable if we keep scoring the 35 we did @KC, but even averaging the 31 we had @NE will leave us feeling like Adrian Peterson when he came up 9 yds short of the season rushing record last year.

Team Passing TDs (51) Ironically, Brady WASN'T on EITHER of the two teams ('04 Colts, '11 Pack) that hold this record, but Manning WAS. 10 more will tie and 11 break it, same as with QB TDs.

Individual Passing TDs (50) Sundays 5 TDs helped Mannings case a lot: He's up to 41 on the year now, an average of just under 3.5/game; the record's 50, so he needs to average 2.5 over the last 4 games to break it. Technically, the player record for TOTAL TDs is 52, because Brady ran for 2 the year he threw 50; Manning's run for 1 so far, so 11 more would break that one, too.

Individual Passing Yards (5476) This one may be hardest; Manning has 4125 through 12 games, an average of 343.75/gm, but Brees averaged barely 1 yd less (342.3) setting the record. Still very doable, but Mannings average can't slip >6 yds or the record holds.

There are surely others within reach, if not grasp, but there are LOTS of records, and many get quite obscure, so those interested in hunting down each one to see if we have a shot at it are referred here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Football_League_records_(team) and here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Records_(Individual)

Our next opponents are 9th, 29th, 19th and 3rd in yards allowed, 7th, 28th, 2nd and 24th in passing yards allowed and 17th, 22nd, 20th and 10th in rushing yards allowed. We can run on all but (maybe) Oakland if the line run blocks better than in recent months (they've been pass blocking well since the SD game though, and that's the top priority on any team with PFM.) Hopefully our injured defensive starters return soon and we can create and exploit a few turnovers into the bargain.

Tennessee and Houston are good vs. passing, but Tennessee only has one good pass rusher (DT Jurrell Casey, 8 sacks) and CB (Alterraun Verner, 5 Ints) so we may be able to take advantage of them at home. Houstons D is tough, and our first priority IS protecting the franchise, but they've historically been vulnerable to the long ball, even with Wade Phillips as DC. The Bolts and Faders secondaries are HIGHLY flammable; hopefully we torch them (as in the first Raiders game) especially with SD at home.

Peyton Manning's no longer on pace for >70 TDs and >7000 yds, but it was never realistic to expect the whole season to go like the first month, when health, weather and quality of opponents all favored us. Even now those early stats are still inflating the season averages a bit—but not like when they WERE the season average. Games like that 150 yd 2 TD performance @NE have been factored in also, and the pace is still high enough to break all the records in play at the start. Whether our remaining games break any season records remains an open question....

Haha

you said "doable"

Joel
12-12-2013, 01:45 AM
But this isn't a free site. Tned runs this and he takes his orders from Furer Elway.
Live free or die!


The charts are big and orange and take up half the page, you see them yet?
Nope, just duplicate links, but they work; good enough.


Haha

you said "doable"
Like your mom? :tongue:

Broncolingus
12-12-2013, 10:11 AM
Like your mom? :tongue:


Goodness...check out the quick comeback from, Joel.


http://www.grolschfilmworks.com/media/uploads/images/samuel-l-jackson-as-jules-winnfield-in-pulp.jpg


Well done...

AllThings18
12-12-2013, 11:28 AM
Live free or die!


Nope, just duplicate links, but they work; good enough.


Like your mom? :tongue:

When others post an image/graphic are they visible to you? or is it just a link?

Slick
12-12-2013, 11:30 AM
Nice charts All Things 18. Works for me on the tablet.

Joel
12-12-2013, 11:46 AM
When others post an image/graphic are they visible to you? or is it just a link?
Hadn't thought of it till now, but I don't think I've ever seen a chart or pic (outside of avatars) on here, just links.

Ravage!!!
12-12-2013, 12:53 PM
here are some fun stats!

• The Broncos have run 163 plays in the red zone
• The Tampa Bay Buccaneers and New York Jets have combined for a total of 159 red-zone snaps so far this season
• The Broncos have run 105 snaps in the red zone since Week 6
• Fifteen NFL teams don't have 105 red zone snaps for the year
• Peyton Manning has eight games in which he posted a Total QBR above 80
• Drew Brees (6) is the only other quarterback with more than five such games
• The Broncos' offense has scored 16 touchdowns on plays that originated outside of the red zone
• The Baltimore Ravens have two such touchdowns
• Four Broncos players have scored at least ten touchdowns
• There are only 12 players in the NFL with at least that many scores
• Jeremy Kerley, Jeff Cumberland and Chris Ivory share the lead for touchdowns scored for the Jets, with three scores each

AllThings18
12-12-2013, 01:27 PM
here are some fun stats!

• The Broncos have run 163 plays in the red zone
• The Tampa Bay Buccaneers and New York Jets have combined for a total of 159 red-zone snaps so far this season
• The Broncos have run 105 snaps in the red zone since Week 6
• Fifteen NFL teams don't have 105 red zone snaps for the year
• Peyton Manning has eight games in which he posted a Total QBR above 80
• Drew Brees (6) is the only other quarterback with more than five such games
• The Broncos' offense has scored 16 touchdowns on plays that originated outside of the red zone
• The Baltimore Ravens have two such touchdowns
• Four Broncos players have scored at least ten touchdowns
• There are only 12 players in the NFL with at least that many scores
• Jeremy Kerley, Jeff Cumberland and Chris Ivory share the lead for touchdowns scored for the Jets, with three scores each

The Broncos 515 are more than a number of combo's, not just the two last place teams, Jags & Jets, but combos up to the 15th highest scoring team the Colts 313 + Jags 201.

The Broncos 1st half points 231 are more than the Jags & Jets
The Broncos 2nd half points 284 would rank 22nd in the NFL.

The Broncos scored more points 203 in 4 games(Balt, Dallas, Philly, & Tennessee) than the Jags have all season.

Manning's 45 touchdown passes are two fewer than the cumulative totals of 4 teams(Raiders, Bills, Jags, Jets)


I have another one I'll throw out at some point depending on how everything ends up. Just keeping it up my sleeve for now.

AllThings18
12-12-2013, 01:29 PM
Hadn't thought of it till now, but I don't think I've ever seen a chart or pic (outside of avatars) on here, just links.

I don't know if there is a setting in the software that has it set up like that or not. Was just curious.

Broncolingus
12-12-2013, 04:03 PM
Keep those stats and facts coming...that's awesome!

DenBronx
12-13-2013, 09:25 AM
Manning got the TD record for sure. The 5,476 yards is going to be a tough one now that Manning didn't throw a little better against SD.


Hope he goes off these next two games. I want 8 TDs against Oakland, have a few friends going to that game and I want their dreams shattered.

Broncolingus
12-13-2013, 09:36 AM
Manning got the TD record for sure. The 5,476 yards is going to be a tough one now that Manning didn't throw a little better against SD.


Hope he goes off these next two games. I want 8 TDs against Oakland, have a few friends going to that game and I want their dreams shattered.


That's (really) anyone's game right now...

Joel
12-14-2013, 04:51 AM
Manning got the TD record for sure. The 5,476 yards is going to be a tough one now that Manning didn't throw a little better against SD.
I don't see 800 passing yds in our last 2 games, no; if he couldn't manage 300 against a D that's 31st in passing yds/att, how much better can it get? A lot of that's because they ran him off the field, but if our D allowed a team that's 23rd in rushing average its SEASON RUSHING HIGH, AT HOME, what will they do on the road against a team that runs as well as Houston, but has a MUCH better D? Really, this team's about the D giving our explosive offense opportunities to do its job, and Thursday raised HUGE questions about how well it can do that without Big Vick and Wolfe.


Hope he goes off these next two games. I want 8 TDs against Oakland, have a few friends going to that game and I want their dreams shattered.
I hope he gets the ball our last two games, preferably not with his butt to our goal line every time. A pair of TDs/game looks pretty good though; he got that many even Thursday.

CrazyHorse
12-14-2013, 05:12 AM
666. That's the magic number for yards.

Joel
12-14-2013, 05:15 AM
666. That's the magic number for yards.
Disturbingly right you are; not sure where I got the other 100. Doable, but we'll need the ball >15:00/game.

GEM
12-14-2013, 10:14 AM
I dont care about records, I care about post season.

Broncolingus
12-14-2013, 12:07 PM
I dont care about records, I care about post season.

****-in A...

Joel
12-14-2013, 12:42 PM
I dont care about records, I care about post season.
When I said that a few months ago I was told a REAL fan would appreciate and savor the once in a lifetime accomplishment we're watching unfold. Even though several of these records have been broken MORE than once in just the last decade; maybe the people chiding me were goldfish. The postseason's my priority, too, but looking at our D, special teams, delayed starts, poor finishes (too often both of those,) stupid penalties, turnovers, blown assignments, late season tinkering that leaves an abused rookie in primary coverage for a month, all I can say is this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scVJL19akH0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scVJL19akH0)

MOtorboat
12-14-2013, 02:11 PM
When I said that a few months ago I was told a REAL fan would appreciate and savor the once in a lifetime accomplishment we're watching unfold. Even though several of these records have been broken MORE than once in just the last decade; maybe the people chiding me were goldfish. The postseason's my priority, too, but looking at our D, special teams, delayed starts, poor finishes (too often both of those,) stupid penalties, turnovers, blown assignments, late season tinkering that leaves an abused rookie in primary coverage for a month, all I can say is this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scVJL19akH0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scVJL19akH0)

Thursday made you giddy, didn't it?

Can we label this tripe spam yet?

CrazyHorse
12-15-2013, 05:29 AM
I dont care about records, I care about post season.

Agreed. I'd love for them to break some records but it will all feel a bit empty if they don't win a Super Bowl. Just ask the 2007 Patriots.

Dean
12-15-2013, 05:20 PM
I want it all. I want season wins, play-off wins, Super Bowl, and every offensive record that's on the books. Surely that's not too much to ask.:D

Joel
12-15-2013, 08:27 PM
I want it all. I want season wins, play-off wins, Super Bowl, and every offensive record that's on the books. Surely that's not too much to ask.:D
Not at all, but if forced to pick I agree there's no contest (said so in September, along with noting a SEPTEMBER pace for 70+ TDs didn't mean much.) After all, if we manage 55 pts and 4 passing TDs in our last 2 games, what will the '07 Pats have to show for their amazing season? A Lamar Hunt Trophy and Moss' single season receiving record, for as long as the latter lasts.

It's just, if we spotted a 3-11 team a 21-7 second half lead at home when we had every defender but Champ, and got beat at home by a 6-7 team, what's going to happen when we have a 10 win team at home? At least I could have some faith in our D against the run before, but after giving a team with the 10th worst rushing average its best rushing total of the year it looks like we can't even stop the run anymore. Our offense is phenomenal when focused, but unless we kick onside (with our awful STs) we still have to give the ball back after every score.

Dapper Dan
12-15-2013, 09:01 PM
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2596/mh0e.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/14/mh0e.jpg/)

Army Bronco
12-15-2013, 09:30 PM
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2596/mh0e.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/14/mh0e.jpg/)These are awesome...lmao.

Simple Jaded
12-15-2013, 09:51 PM
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2596/mh0e.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/14/mh0e.jpg/)

"Woe to you, Oh Earth and Sea, for the Devil sends the
beast with wrath, because he knows the time is short...
Let him who hath understanding reckon the number of the
beast, for it is a human number, its number is Six hundred and
sixty six."

CrazyHorse
12-16-2013, 12:47 AM
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2596/mh0e.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/14/mh0e.jpg/)

I would buy that.

Dapper Dan
12-22-2013, 05:02 PM
1 record down...

Simple Jaded
12-22-2013, 05:08 PM
51 TD's, is that good? I hear it's pretty good.

Dapper Dan
12-22-2013, 05:11 PM
51 TD's, is that good? I hear it's pretty good.

Not as good as 52.

wayninja
12-22-2013, 05:12 PM
51 TD's, is that good? I hear it's pretty good.

It's ok, but not sure how 'playoff' it is.

Dapper Dan
12-22-2013, 05:22 PM
265 yards for the record, I think.

SR
12-22-2013, 05:38 PM
265 yards for the record, I think.266

Dapper Dan
12-22-2013, 05:43 PM
266

Right. Yeah. 265 would be to tie, I guess. You're right.

Joel
12-22-2013, 06:01 PM
Not as good as 52.
52 is the season individual all purpose TD record for a season: Brady ran for 2 in 2007, while Manning just had the one twice/decade goal line end run this year. However, he tied that record today, and would break it with his first TD by ANY means next week, plus that would put us within 11 pts of the team scoring record for one season. Decker also joined D/JT and Welker with 10 TDs on the season today, plus Moreno got his 1000 yd season, all with a game to go.

I think that's everything; it's theoretically POSSIBLE to break the '07 Pats record for team TDs, but only with 8 of them next week, and that's asking a bit much even against the Faders. For what it's worth, I hope we really pour it on against Oakland, to not only ensure the 18 pts we need for the season record, but pad it as much as possible so it lasts a while even in the current pass-obsessed defenseless NFL. The Pats are fully in control of Baltimore now, up 17-0 at the half, so all our starters should play next week, at least unless/until the game's firmly in hand.