Broncos Gameday Thread: Broncos vs Colts 10/20/13

[wayninja]

Well, that blows dicks

[BroncoWave]

Welp. That was anti-climactic.

[ShaneFalco]

Ok D, time for another turnover!

[aberdien]

Somebody call Tebow.

[Broncolingus]

Well, that's prob the game darn it...

[DenBronx]

That's the dagger.

[ShaneFalco]

Way to hold d. Keep it up.

[Nomad]

Smh

[chazoe60]

Why is a Julius a Thomas ever in to block. He is terrible.

[skins_fan82]

put that one on the offensive line.

I really hope Indy fans aware of the fact that they lucked out and didn't have to face Orlando Franklin tonight. That wouldn't have happened if Big Ugly 74 was in there....

[DenBronx]

How far were we down in the SD game last year? Was it worse than this?

Like 3 TDs.

[ShaneFalco]

The rook!! Nice webster!

[BroncoWave]

Good thing we had the momentum heading into that drive. Oh wait...

[DenBronx]

Now, how huge was that extra point if we hold them to a field goal?

[ShaneFalco]

Defense holding it down.

[wayninja]

Please miss this mother****ing field goal. Please. Mother******.

edit; **** you Vinateri

[ForgettingBrandonMarshall]

Still plenty of time left

[FanInAZ]

So Manning has two TD's for most of the game, and now has three, but he was being bashed for most of the game. :D

Manning's not allowed to be mortal, even for 1 play.

[BroncoWave]

We need a really quick score now.

[ShaneFalco]

Still got 3 timeouts. 2 more possessions for O.

[chazoe60]

Game over.

[JPPT1974]

If Adam Makes it, it will be a nine point game!

[Nomad]

Why is a Julius a Thomas ever in to block. He is terrible.

Great hands when catching the ball, lousyblocker

[ForgettingBrandonMarshall]

Or perhaps I should go back to being negative...you know...superstition and what not

[Poet]

Good thing we had the momentum heading into that drive. Oh wait...

You could feel it shift. I'm glad you have abandoned your stance. :D

[Skinny]

Let's go O!

[Nomad]

We need a trindon td

[weazel]

still 6 minutes though...

[Nomad]

Guess not

[Davii]

Well that sucked.

[ShaneFalco]

still got 5min, 3 timeouts and the 2min warning.

[weazel]

teeing up on us now

[BroncoWave]

Oh well, at least we made it exciting. See you guys next week!

[Broncolingus]

Kinda didn't need that sack...:tsk:

I agree OL injuries finally caught up with us this game...

JMO...

[wayninja]

well, it was somewhat interesting...

[weazel]

what a catch

[Az Snake]

YES WW !!!

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[ShaneFalco]

Wes you beautiful sonofabitch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[wayninja]

Holy shit, that was the catch of the year.

[Broncolingus]

What a catch, Wes!!!

[Skinny]

What a catch by Welker. He's had some huge 3rd down catches.

[Bronco4ever]

Insane catch by Welker!

[skins_fan82]

did you see the adjustment on that ball from welker?! holy shit

[ShaneFalco]

Lets go right down their throats!!!!!!!

[BroncoWave]

Oh well, at least we made it exciting. See you guys next week!

Well, um, wait a minute...

[Broncolingus]

Movin' it down...hurry up boys!

[Nomad]

Another good effort by Decker.....hot & cold

[BroncoWave]

Wow, look at all this momentum we have!!!

[aberdien]

Is Welker a god or what the **** was that? He is the main reason we are in this game iMO.

[ForgettingBrandonMarshall]

Wes Welker is having a drive!!

[wayninja]

**** Welker for MVP!

[Nomad]

Where was Welker at the beginning

[weazel]

welker is now the ninja

[weazel]

hillman fumble

[ForgettingBrandonMarshall]

That's the game

[ShaneFalco]

The ****. Ronnie hillman. Cut him. Im so sick of these bitch ass rbs.

[skins_fan82]

of all people, when the game is on the line....you give it to Ronnie ******* Hillman??

[aberdien]

cut that bitch

[wayninja]

That's game... hillman strikes again

[DenBronx]

Thats the game. Fumble Hillman.

[HORSEPOWER 56]

Holy cow Ronnie. I can't believe it.

[BroncoWave]

:lol: Wow Hillman.

[chazoe60]

Ronnie Hillman sucks. Julius Thomas can't block.

[weazel]

hillman .................................................. .........................................

[spikerman]

Time to cut Hillman

[DenBronx]

of all people, when the game is on the line....you give it to Ronnie ******* Hillman??

I dont get it either.

He's trash.

[ShaneFalco]

of all people, when the game is on the line....you give it to Ronnie ******* Hillman??

seriously what the **** is fox thinking

[Broncolingus]

...said it before, Ronnie Hillman should never touch the ball again.

[Dzone]

Hillman sucks!!!!!

[MOtorboat]

Unbelievable.

[FanInAZ]

Somebody call Tebow.

Did the Chargers need Tebow last week? No, the just put in a FB & shoved the ball down the Colts' throat. After all, this is a team that hasn't been able to stop the SB V!

[BroncoWave]

We didn't have enough momentum for Hillman to hold onto the ball.

[Dzone]

Idiotic to put Hillman in there instead of Moreno

[weazel]

vickerson... what a tool

[chazoe60]

I really hope Hillman doesn't get another carry for this team. Leave Moreno in and Ball as the backup.

[ShaneFalco]

Wow.

[HORSEPOWER 56]

Man I just can't believe it.

[Bronco4ever]

Weak call.

[BroncoWave]

That was the worst call I have ever seen.

[wayninja]

That was some ***** tom brady shit there luck

[weazel]

vickerson... what a tool

I take it back, the call was bullshit

[Skinny]

Bull shit call refs. Home cooking right there. What a flop.

[ShaneFalco]

WHy is he still on the sideline? Send him to the locker room.

[MOtorboat]

What did Moreno do to get benched tonight?

[tomjonesrocks]

Just a messy, messy game.

Agree Hillman just can't be trusted. Let's see CJ.

[Poet]

What did Moreno do to get benched tonight?

He was not as fast as Hillman.

[HORSEPOWER 56]

Why don't these guys play with a little more discipline. What a heartbreaker.

[Slick]

We didn't have enough momentum for Hillman to hold onto the ball.

You are insufferable tonight.

[Dzone]

Hillman lost the game...Get rid of him...stupid to put him in there when Moreno has been dependable in those situations....utterly stupid

[weazel]

What did Moreno do to get benched tonight?

I was wondering the same thing when I seen Hillman lining up. Didn't want to mention anything, thought it might be a really stupid question

[Broncolingus]

Ronnie Hillman...:tsk:

[sneakers]

that was horseshit refball

[aberdien]

**** YOU Vickerson you stupid *******.

[spikerman]

As bad as the offense has been Denver won't go anywhere with this defense.

[CoachChaz]

Play calling just sucks tonight

[chazoe60]

Hillman as far as I can tell does nothing for this team other than the occasional fumble.

[ShaneFalco]

Get him off the bench, guy doesnt even deserve to be on the sideline.

[Dzone]

I hope fox getsw asked why in the hell I took Morreno out and gave the ball to the human fumbling machine, hillman

[Broncolingus]

Man did those last two turnovers hurt...

...ouch!

[skins_fan82]

Time to cut Hillman

Don't even let him on the team plane back to Denver. Cut him in the locker room

[sneakers]

he had the ball back under control and then the colts guy came and ripped it out and magically all rules in football are voided and it is colts ball

[wayninja]

I'm still not worried.

[Dzone]

Fire Fox. No ezxcuse for this loss lol

[ShaneFalco]

Like im still in shock.

At what point does someone decide to send in the person who fumbles in every situation.

[Nomad]

I agree with Michaels, Vickerson shouldn't of put himself in that position and Luck did a John Stockton....always works.

[HORSEPOWER 56]

I think I will be disappointed if Hillman is still on this team tomorrow. He's done more to hurt this team than help it.

[MOtorboat]

Get him off the bench, guy doesnt even deserve to be on the sideline.

That was just kind of the icing on the cake.

The rest of the team shouldn't be allowed on the bus, either. Just a bad, bad game.

The good news to me is that they were still in it after playing so terribly. And I like not having to worry about the "undefeated" thing.

[spikerman]

Is it too late for JDR to reconsider the USC job?

[tomjonesrocks]

I think I will be disappointed if Hillman is still on this team tomorrow. He's done more to hurt this team than help it.

If the man that still calls himself "The Dream" like an idiot didn't get cut after costing the team a Super Bowl, I'd say Hillman is safe.

[ShaneFalco]

That was just kind of the icing on the cake.

The rest of the team shouldn't be allowed on the bus, either. Just a bad, bad game.

The good news to me is that they were still in it after playing so terribly. And I like not having to worry about the "undefeated" thing.

Was more then that. It was like Romos game losing int.

Who in their right mind would send him into that situation....

[BroncoWave]

Is it too late for JDR to reconsider the USC job?

Are you serious? The D has not been the problem tonight.

[chazoe60]

I think I will be disappointed if Hillman is still on this team tomorrow. He's done more to hurt this team than help it.
I don't see why he's on this team in the first place. He's a small back without the speed to take it the distance.

[Bronco4ever]

Block the next punt and bat it out of the end zone for a safety.

[tomjonesrocks]

That was just kind of the icing on the cake. The rest of the team shouldn't be allowed on the bus, either. Just a bad, bad game. The good news to me is that they were still in it after playing so terribly. And I like not having to worry about the "undefeated" thing.

It's not a shameful loss. Tough circumstances, tough team. That was ugly though for sure.

Really my concern is Manning's health. I am just not convinced he's fine.

[wayninja]

Are you serious? The D has not been as big a problem as usual tonight.

fixed it

[MOtorboat]

Was more then that. It was like Romos game losing int.

Who in their right mind would send him into that situation....

It was his first lost fumble of the year...so I'm kind of changing my opinion on it, considering Ball has lost several. I still don't know why Moreno wasn't in, though. Is he hurt?

[Nomad]

I don't see why he's on this team in the first place. He's a small back without the speed to take it the distance.

Elway and Fox drafted him:lol:

[spikerman]

Are you serious? The D has not been the problem tonight.

They've given up 39 points. That's a problem.

[BroncoWave]

It was his first lost fumble of the year...so I'm kind of changing my opinion on it, considering Ball has lost several. I still don't know why Moreno wasn't in, though. Is he hurt?

I said this in the other thread. But lost fumbles are a fluky thing. Can't control where the ball bounces.

[Nomad]

It's not a shameful loss. Tough circumstances, tough team. That was ugly though for sure.

Really my concern is Manning's health. I am just not convinced he's fine.

Indys a damn good team at home. I would have hoped the BRONCOS played a little more mistake free. Good teams take advantage of mistakes, which Indy has.

[BroncoWave]

They've given up 39 points. That's a problem.

They have had a TON of short fields. Our defense has gotten plenty of stops tonight.

[GEM]

That push on holliday should have been penalty.

[aberdien]

i say kick the fg right now.

[Skinny]

That push on holliday should have been penalty.
The refs have sucked ass all night.

[BroncoWave]

So Moreno isn't hurt, Fox is just brain dead tonight.

[Nomad]

The refs have sucked ass all night.

The Chiefs pay off very well.:lol:

[tomjonesrocks]

I can't believe this game is still going.

[BroncoWave]

What the hell are we doing not kicking the FG there????? Fox has been HORRIBLE tonight.

[ShaneFalco]

Ronnie Hillman straight up lost this game.

[MOtorboat]

Ronnie Hillman straight up lost this game.

Not even close.

[Poet]

The Broncos lost as a cohesive unit.

[aberdien]

i say kick the fg right now.


OR waste time and get a sack first

[weazel]

Ronnie Hillman straight up lost this game.

this was a team loss... coaches, ST, D, O

[aberdien]

******* dumbasses from top to bottom tonight. Piss poor playcalling, piss poor coaching, piss poor game management. They better get their ******* shit together.

[ShaneFalco]

Sorry but he did. Talk about team all you want. You dont turn the ball over when the game is on the line.

[Broncolingus]

Well...not the best onside kick...

...dang, those two 4th qtr turnovers.

[Nomad]

The refs have sucked ass all night.

Skinny.....our football weekend sucked:lol::ohwell:

[wayninja]

Awful game. We had multiple chances to steal this and just made mistake after mistake.

[chazoe60]

I would not blame Hillman completely but he does suck terribly. Julius Thomas was shitty tonight too in a bad bad way. That dude couldn't block me.

[weazel]

Sorry but he did. Talk about team all you want. You dont turn the ball over when the game is on the line.

game was on the line all night, Manning threw INT's

[skins_fan82]

I said this in the other thread. But lost fumbles are a fluky thing. Can't control where the ball bounces.

True. but knowing the situation, you can't let your team down like that. you have one job, and that's to hold onto the god damn ball. Ronnie absolutely needs to do better than that.

I know you "lose as a team," but Ronnie certainly doomed their chances at a comeback.

[HORSEPOWER 56]

Oh well. Lost our first game. Too many mistakes by the offense tonight. We really missed Clady and Franklin tonight. Oh and Ronnie Hillman should be cut. Tonight.

[Broncolingus]

What a strange game...

OL injuries caught up and I think the secondary still has a lot of work to do, although they played better in the second half.

...Hillman, boy...I just am not sure how many more try's he's earned at this point :tsk:

[Slick]

I think the Colts are a very good team, but I think we beat ourselves tonight more than anything.

[tomjonesrocks]

I suppose we've probably seen the last of Champ.

[GEM]

Classless Indy fans with their signs, if it weren't for Peyton, your team wouldn't be what they are today. Have some class, inbred dumb****s.

[Nomad]

BRONCOS have some much needed damage control.

[Magnificent Seven]

I am blaming on offensive coordinator for giving the ball to Hillman! WHY HILLMAN, GASE?!!!!!!!!!!!

[wayninja]

I have to admit, I'm starting to worry that we may not win this game.

[shank]

I suppose we've probably seen the last of Champ.

You are a ******* retard.

[EastCoastBronco]

It's not Hillman's fault.
If we are who we think we are, we don't need a comeback special.
We were drinking the Koolaid.
KC is going to be a tough out, boys.

[Broncolingus]

Oh, and I'll eat my crow...

...I thought the wheels were off at 33-17...

...Bronco's came back and made a game of it.

Almost pulled it out...

...then gave the chance away with two bad 4th qtr turnovers...

...again, strange.

[LoyalSoldier]

That was a game we probably should have won, but continued to shoot ourselves in the foot.

[Simple Jaded]

Oh well. Lost our first game. Too many mistakes by the offense tonight. We really missed Clady and Franklin tonight. Oh and Ronnie Hillman should be cut. Tonight.

And 39 points allowed on D.

[wayninja]

You are a ******* retard.

Why?

[Nomad]

BRONCOS lost this game on all phases.

[Poet]

That was a game we probably should have won, but continued to shoot ourselves in the foot.

You're...you...you...live?

[Joel]

Colts give the game ball to Hillman and our porous offensive line. I'm actually fairly impressed with how our D played against a very good offense, even if Miller was pretty quiet. But no push from our line, Colts all over our backfield on passes AND runs; hard to win with that. Without the tipped pass that gave Indy a FG and the strip-fumble-safety that gave them the ball for a TD drive at about midfield, Hillmans fumble doesn't matter. Or, y'know, without Hillman's fumble those things don't matter. Bottom line is we got outplayed, thus beaten. Hopefully we can pick up the pieces; losing three starters on our line is starting to hurt.

[Skinny]

Skinny.....our football weekend sucked:lol::ohwell:Big ole hairy dog balls.

[Magnificent Seven]

F*** HILLMAN! Gase should give the ball to Morneo or Ball!

[Nomad]

BRONCOS lost this game on all phases.

Let me rephrase....BRONCOS made mistakes on all phases and lost to a damn good team, in which you can't make those mistakes if you plan to win.

[sneakers]

Can the broncos trade decker or thomas for a couple of offensive tackles?

[sneakers]

BRONCOS lost this game on all phases.

not punting, our punter was solid

[Nomad]

Big ole hairy dog balls.

Never tasted those:lol:

[Nomad]

not punting, our punter was solid

Our punter didn't blow up their returner....disappointing:lol:

[BORDERLINE]

Not our night. Manning was obviously affected by the moment. Let's re group come back strong. we got this fellas

[HORSEPOWER 56]

Oh well. Lost our first game. Too many mistakes by the offense tonight. We really missed Clady and Franklin tonight. Oh and Ronnie Hillman should be cut. Tonight.And 39 points allowed on D.

Maybe you didn't see the safety, the int, the poor STs play (colquitt looked like shit for most of the game), and all the 3 and outs. We had something like 8 straight drives that ended in either a turnover or a 3 and out. How much can the defense really do?

[tomjonesrocks]

You are a ******* retard.

What, faggot?

[wayninja]

not punting, our punter was solid

You mean Brandon?

[Davii]

No shame in losing to a good team in their home.

[LoyalSoldier]

And 39 points allowed on D.

To be fair though, several of those points were set up by the fact the ball was turned over right by the goal line. The defense was actually making stops when it counted, but the offense kept choking.

[CoachChaz]

BRONCOS lost this game on all phases.

not punting, our punter was solid

Especially on those 30 yarders in the first half.

We played like shit and scored 33. I'll take that as a good sign

[AlWilsonizKING]

I think the NFL needs to rethink what makes a TD. A runner can hold the ball across the goalline and have it knocked out right away and that counts because the ball crossed the line and the play is dead. A reciever has to catch the ball, cross the line and retain control throughout the fall (if they are falling). Why isnt the play dead right away as a runner would be? If a runner is falling and drops the ball after he falls across the line, it's not a fumble. Pissed me off during the game to see that. Play kept going backward after that.


PEACE!!!

[Skinny]

Never tasted those:lol:They tastes like chicken, i hear.

[Dzone]

The Hillman fumble takes us back to the ravens playoff game where hillman was run up the gut on 3rd and 7 for no gain...hillman is not dependable and shouldnt even be on the field any more...bring up cj
Id like to see hillman deactivated for a few games

[Broncolingus]

Jesus, Manning looks like shit coming up to the podium for the postgame presser here...

[topscribe]

They're down inside the 5-yard line, and they're going to power the ball in.
So what do they do? They put in, not Moreno, who has been successful on
the goal line, but the diminutive Ronnie Hillman, and they send him into the
middle of the line!

And why weren't they helping Clark out by chipping Mathis over there?

But the worst, I thought, was the TD they took away from Decker. He did
have control of the ball when it went over the goal line, and came out
only when he hit the ground - out of bounds.

But then, that wasn't what cost the ball game. It was the four turnovers.
Denver seems to have tried very hard at times this season to lose the
game, and today they finally succeeded . . .
.

[AlWilsonizKING]

But the worst, I thought, was the TD they took away from Decker. He did
have control of the ball when it went over the goal line, and came out
only when he hit the ground - out of bounds.


Yes, why was it not a TD. Why also was it not reviewed upstairs as all potential scoring play are subject to?


PEACE!!!

[BroncoWave]

They're down inside the 5-yard line, and they're going to power the ball in.
So what do they do? They put in, not Moreno, who has been successful on
the goal line, but the diminutive Ronnie Hillman, and they send him into the
middle of the line!

And why weren't they helping Clark out by chipping Mathis over there?

But the worst, I thought, was the TD they took away from Decker. He did
have control of the ball when it went over the goal line, and came out
only when he hit the ground - out of bounds.

But then, that wasn't what cost the ball game. It was the four turnovers.
Denver seems to have tried very hard at times this season to lose the
game, and today they finally succeeded . . .
.

The Decker call was correct. It's the Calvin Johnson rule. On a potential TD, you have to keep possession all the way to the ground.

[Slick]

I didn't think there was a DB on the Colts that could hang with D Thomas. The most frustrating thing to me, besides the 4 turnovers, were the terribly underthrown balls to him when he had one on one coverage.

[BroncoWave]

Yes, why was it not a TD. Why also was it not reviewed upstairs as all potential scoring play are subject to?


PEACE!!!

Only actual scoring plays are auto reviewed. Not potential ones.

[Davii]

Yes, why was it not a TD. Why also was it not reviewed upstairs as all potential scoring play are subject to?


PEACE!!!

Scoring plays are reviewed. It was ruled that it wasn't a scoring play.

[Slick]

Peyton looked completely spent at the podium.

[tomjonesrocks]

Denver now 5th in the AFC. Crazy.

[AlWilsonizKING]

The Decker call was correct. It's the Calvin Johnson rule. On a potential TD, you have to keep possession all the way to the ground.

Yes but something needs to be done about catches OUTSIDE of the endzone that cross the line, just as a runner would do. Anything after that should not matter as long as the reciever had control before crossing the line.....just my opinion though.


PEACE!!!

[topscribe]

The Decker call was correct. It's the Calvin Johnson rule. On a potential TD, you have to keep possession all the way to the ground.
I don't think it was correct. If the ball came out when Decker hit the ground,
isn't that having possession all the way to the ground? I'll have to watch it
again . . . for the third time.
.

[Simple Jaded]

Maybe you didn't see the safety, the int, the poor STs play (colquitt looked like shit for most of the game), and all the 3 and outs. We had something like 8 straight drives that ended in either a turnover or a 3 and out. How much can the defense really do?
Forgot about the safety, completely on everything.

[Joel]

They've given up 39 points. That's a problem.
Not fair: 2 pts were on the safety, 7 on the short field afterward, 7 more on an 11 yard TD play after Hollidays fumbled return and 3 on a Manning pick. So roughly half Indys points had very little to do with our D, and those are just the examples I recall. Now, the TD before the half because they couldn't even keep Indy out of our end zone a full minute; that's a problem big enough to lose the game, and our Prevent's BEEN a problem for a while. There were also a few drives "bend but don't break" gave us starting field position well insided our 20.

Yet overall our D played well (especially in the second half) against a very good offense: OUR offense just left them hanging, all night long, so we lost.

[Nomad]

Peyton looked completely spent at the podium.

He probably tossed and turned all night, not getting much sleep.

[Joel]

I think the NFL needs to rethink what makes a TD. A runner can hold the ball across the goalline and have it knocked out right away and that counts because the ball crossed the line and the play is dead. A reciever has to catch the ball, cross the line and retain control throughout the fall (if they are falling). Why isnt the play dead right away as a runner would be? If a runner is falling and drops the ball after he falls across the line, it's not a fumble. Pissed me off during the game to see that. Play kept going backward after that.

PEACE!!!
Because the ball carrier must possess the ball when it breaks the plane of the goal line; receivers don't have possession until they complete the catch. For what it's worth, I think Decker DID control that ball all the way to the ground and it only came out as he was starting to rise, but I was a lot farther away from it than the ref who made the call.

[BroncoWave]

Wow, Welker not pulling any punches post-game. This was a quote of his...

"we'll learn from this...some guys need to grow up"

[Simple Jaded]

Wow, Welker not pulling any punches post-game. This was a quote of his...

"we'll learn from this...some guys need to grow up"

Vote on who needs to grow up. Mine goes to Von Miller.

[topscribe]

I don't think it was correct. If the ball came out when Decker hit the ground,
isn't that having possession all the way to the ground? I'll have to watch it
again . . . for the third time.
.
I just watched the replay again. Decker was all the way to the ground and
rolling over out of bounds when the ball came out. He solidly had it in his
possession. Bad, bad call on the part of the officials . . .

Interestingly, on the Colts TD just before that incident, Fleener lost the ball
when he came down across the goal line, and that was ruled a TD.
.

[tomjonesrocks]

Wow, Welker not pulling any punches post-game. This was a quote of his... "we'll learn from this...some guys need to grow up"

Some intrigue there with those comments...

[Magnificent Seven]

How come we didn't see Montee Ball in action?

[tomjonesrocks]

How come we didn't see Montee Ball in action?

Good question. If he can't handle those short yardage situations I don't know why he was drafted.

[BroncoWave]

I just watched the replay again. Decker was all the way to the ground and
rolling over out of bounds when the ball came out. He solidly had it in his
possession. Bad, bad call on the part of the officials . . .
.

The rule on a TD is you have to have possession all the way to the ground. That was not a bad call. I think it's a bad rule, but not a bad call.

[topscribe]

The rule on a TD is you have to have possession all the way to the ground. That was not a bad call. I think it's a bad rule, but not a bad call.
I watched the replay again. And again. And again. Decker had possession
all the way to the ground. The ball did not come out until Decker had rolled
completely over out of bounds. It.Was.A.Bad.Call. Even the commentators
showing the highlights said it should have been a TD.

[underrated29]

Just got done watching the game- had a hockey game.


Ronnie Hillman is officially my least favorite bronco. I do not see what anyone sees in him. He is weak and fumbles like every 5 touches.

[Magnificent Seven]

Broncos should cut RB Ronnie Hillman and sign WR Tavarres King.

[aberdien]

Vote on who needs to grow up. Mine goes to Von Miller.

Why? What did he do to lose the game?

I say Vickerson, Hillman, Holliday, and J Thomas are all worthy of being told to grow up.

[Army Bronco]

Just got done watching the game- had a hockey game.


Ronnie Hillman is officially my least favorite bronco. I do not see what anyone sees in him. He is weak and fumbles like every 5 touches.but he runs really fast in practice.

[Simple Jaded]

Why? What did he do to lose the game?

I say Vickerson, Hillman, Holliday, and J Thomas are all worthy of being told to grow up.

Mostly the 6 game suspension for being a total ******* idiot, had it not been for that perhaps he wouldn't have thoroughly invisible in pass rush.

[ShaneFalco]

No.

[aberdien]

Mostly the 6 game suspension for being a total ******* idiot, had it not been for that perhaps he wouldn't have thoroughly invisible in pass rush.

Nah, I highly doubt out of all the imbecilic plays and penalties in the game he would rather randomly reference a player who did not make any of those imbecilic plays or penalties.

[BroncoNut]

Why? What did he do to lose the game?

I say Vickerson, Hillman, Holliday, and J Thomas are all worthy of being told to grow up.

I pulled out toward the end of the 3rd. what did J Thomas do?

[chazoe60]

I pulled out toward the end of the 3rd. what did J Thomas do?

Basically he missed every block he attempted. He failed miserably trying to pass block for Manning late in the 4th when the Broncos had a chance to drive down and take the lead, his guy blindsided Manning just as he threw and it ended up being an INT. He's an ex-basketball player and he blocks like one.

[Foochacho]

I thought decker had a touchdown because he caught in bounds, clearly had control then extended to the pile on. I fail to see how it was anything like Calvin Johnson's play. Calvin didn't hold onto when coming down from the air into the end one. Decker had two feet down and control. Why is ok for a runningback and not a receiver? Why have I seen other receivers do the same thing with a touchdown? Something needed reviewed.

[BroncoNut]

Basically he missed every block he attempted. He failed miserably trying to pass block for Manning late in the 4th when the Broncos had a chance to drive down and take the lead, his guy blindsided Manning just as he threw and it ended up being an INT. He's an ex-basketball player and he blocks like one.

I guess I remember him being criticized by someone somewhere for that earlier in the season. I turned it off and went to bed. it was just painful. their secondary had shut us down at that point. oh well, better be ready for the skins this sunday is all that can be said.

[MasterShake]

What a crazy game! Well personally I am just going to chalk this up to one of those losses that makes you reflect on what the hell is wrong with you that you tend to gloss over in wins. Things that have been chipped away at through the season (injuries to the o-line, ball security problems, lack of interior pass rush, etc.) are going to be exposed against better teams. I do like how explosive the offense was towards the end but it was too little, too late and even if we had pulled the victory out of our ass there would still be concerns.

The good news is I think the Broncos can FINALLY focus on some of the big issues and put them on the front burner instead of hiding behind the, "Well we won the game argument." I didn't expect them to go undefeated (though my orange and blue heart hoped they would) so if anything this is the time to refocus and reflect. Get a win next weekend and go into the Bye Week to try and make even more adjustments and get healthy for this final stretch. Not time to hit the panic button yet. For me anyway. :D

[Foochacho]

Just have to beat the Chiefs and we are in great shape. Luckily we get the bye week soon to heal up. Not even pissed we lost it is almost a relief because I want these guys to be hungry and know they can f up a game. Hopefully we lose another right before the playoffs as well. Keep the fire burning hot when it really matters.

[MasterShake]

Just have to beat the Chiefs and we are in great shape. Luckily we get the bye week soon to heal up. Not even pissed we lost it is almost a relief because I want these guys to be hungry and know they can f up a game. Hopefully we lose another right before the playoffs as well. Keep the fire burning hot when it really matters.

Exactly. I always think back to how they lost to Miami big in the regular season during the Super Bowl run and then smoked them in the playoffs. Good times!

[Dzone]

It was a rough night. Worst part was being exposed as a team with some problems. Amazing that if Hillman doesnt fumble, and Holliday doesnt fumble and manning doesnt fumble we would have dominated.

[Foochacho]

It was a rough night. Worst part was being exposed as a team with some problems. Amazing that if Hillman doesnt fumble, and Holliday doesnt fumble and manning doesnt fumble we would have dominated.
I'm not sure we would of dominated. The only reason we got to stay in the game is because we got some stops when they tried to run. Had the game stayed close they would of kept throwing and exploiting our secondary. They were moving it so good it would of looked like that Dallas game. The turnovers screwed us but had they not happened the colts would of kept playing like every other team we have played so far. These teams are laying all out trying to put up 50 points to keep up with us. It is hard on our secondary but they have to make more plays. Woodward must make a huge difference because we have not looked the same without him.

[Dzone]

How about Moore introducing himself as Rahim The Dream Moore?...I thought he had dropped that stupid name, I guess not

[tomjonesrocks]

How about Moore introducing himself as Rahim The Dream Moore?...I thought he had dropped that stupid name, I guess not He's a piece of shit. I'm sorry, but I hate Rahim Moore. His retarded intro makes it worse.

[wayninja]

Why? What did he do to lose the game?

I say Vickerson, Hillman, Holliday, and J Thomas are all worthy of being told to grow up.

Vickerson. Those late game penalties were really immature.

[wayninja]

Basically he missed every block he attempted. He failed miserably trying to pass block for Manning late in the 4th when the Broncos had a chance to drive down and take the lead, his guy blindsided Manning just as he threw and it ended up being an INT. He's an ex-basketball player and he blocks like one.

I don't blame that on JT1 too much. His weaknesses are well known. Why the hell was he in there to block?

[wayninja]

I thought decker had a touchdown because he caught in bounds, clearly had control then extended to the pile on. I fail to see how it was anything like Calvin Johnson's play. Calvin didn't hold onto when coming down from the air into the end one. Decker had two feet down and control. Why is ok for a runningback and not a receiver? Why have I seen other receivers do the same thing with a touchdown? Something needed reviewed.

I agree. At what point can a receiver let go of the ball? We've seen plenty of receivers drop the ball as soon as they cross the plane, why is this any different?

Is it like that thing they do in high school where you have to carry a sack of flour around for a month like it's a baby?

[MOtorboat]

I agree. At what point can a receiver let go of the ball? We've seen plenty of receivers drop the ball as soon as they cross the plane, why is this any different?

Is it like that thing they do in high school where you have to carry a sack of flour around for a month like it's a baby?

That play with Decker wouldn't have been a catch anywhere on the field.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis 1h

Robert Mathis alone had 2 sacks; 4 QB hits.

Peyton Manning entered Colts game with NFL-least 5 sacks; NFL-most 240 pass attempts. Colts got 4 sacks, 10 QB hits

Redding:“Letting him know we’re there. That gets to him. And all we tried to do was just get pressure on 18 and make him uncomfortable."

More Cory Redding on hitting Peyton Manning: “And if we weren’t hitting on him, we were stepping on his feet. Pushing him. Breathing on him.

#Colts DE Cory Redding on putting pressure on Peyton Manning: “Oh gosh. We were hitting that boy, and hitting him, and hitting him. ..."

[Foochacho]

That play with Decker wouldn't have been a catch anywhere on the field.

Anywhere else on the field he wouldn't of extended for the pile on. He would of kept control he hit the pile on then lost it. On e you hit the pile on when you had control before it should be a touchdown. What I saw in the replay was catch, step, step, reach. Looked like a catch two feet inbounds and a football move. I could be wrong but a review would of been nice at least.

[Dzone]

"Im somewhat relieved this game is over" -Manning...Well, I guess we all are lol...
Strange that he admitted to being tired this week.

[NightTrainLayne]

Anywhere else on the field he wouldn't of extended for the pile on. He would of kept control he hit the pile on then lost it. On e you hit the pile on when you had control before it should be a touchdown. What I saw in the replay was catch, step, step, reach. Looked like a catch two feet inbounds and a football move. I could be wrong but a review would of been nice at least.

You have to maintain control as you go to the ground. They pylon has nothing to do with that element. Decker lost the ball as soon as he came in contact with the ground.

Had he taken another step or two prior to breaking the plane, then it would have been a TD, but he didn't.

[NightTrainLayne]

"Im somewhat relieved this game is over" -Manning...Well, I guess we all are lol...
Strange that he admitted to being tired this week.

Makes me worry about big playoff games. . .

[weazel]

Makes me worry about big playoff games. . .

makes you wonder if maybe he gets a little too anxious for big games.

[Northman]

"Im somewhat relieved this game is over" -Manning...Well, I guess we all are lol...
Strange that he admitted to being tired this week.

Funny thing is, i saw the look on his face in the tunnel before the game and he looked like he was ready to puke. He looked like he didnt really want to be there.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Makes me worry about big playoff games. . .

I can't imagine any future game having the emotional impact that this game did on Peyton, even if we would have to go back to Indy for a playoff game. Wednesday, when he had to talk with the press, this is what Lindsay said -

Lindsay Jones ‏@bylindsayhjones 16 Oct

Indianapolis TV stations hijacked Manning's press conference in Denver.

Lindsay Jones ‏@bylindsayhjones 16 Oct

Just a bit of the media crowd awaiting Peyton in Denver. pic.twitter.com/IaDCLHRtBu

Lindsay Jones ‏@bylindsayhjones 16 Oct

I counted at least 14 video cameras filming the start of #broncos practice. Inc several stations from… http://instagram.com/p/fiXcQSBwSG/

Peyton has never had the same week before a game as he did this past week, and now, that is behind him.

Any future games will not be "personal", but strictly football.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Lindsay Jones ‏@bylindsayhjones 2h

Ugh RT @mchappell51: #colts worst fears confirmed. Reggie Wayne's season over with torn ACL. Humongous loss.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Funny thing is, i saw the look on his face in the tunnel before the game and he looked like he was ready to puke. He looked like he didnt really want to be there.

That's what I thought.

[Dzone]

Funny thing is, i saw the look on his face in the tunnel before the game and he looked like he was ready to puke. He looked like he didnt really want to be there.
I thought the same thing.
His body language during the game was bad too. Hanging his head. Hard to believe actually.

[Dzone]

Lets do a huge welcome home to Shannahan on sunday. Get in his head. Show him some love and then kick his ass. Just like Indy did last night

[Joel]

I don't blame that on JT1 too much. His weaknesses are well known. Why the hell was he in there to block?
Seem to recall asking that question, too; apparently the answer is "watch the games." Fair enough, but I hope I don't see many more with such poor run AND pass blocking from us, because that's why we lost.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Lets do a huge welcome home to Shannahan on sunday. Get in his head. Show him some love and then kick his ass. Just like Indy did last night

Denver to honor Mike Shanahan before Washington game

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_24351750/broncos-will-honor-mike-shanahan-washington

Even though the Broncos are doing this, I really don't think it will affect Shanahan - way different personality than Peyton.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

I thought the same thing.
His body language during the game was bad too. Hanging his head. Hard to believe actually.

IMO, Peyton's body language was due to the way things were going in the game. As far as how his face looked when coming out of the tunnel, he knew once he hit the field, the tribute to him would start, and I don't believe he was looking forward to that. When Peyton hits the field, he wants it to be all about football, not about him.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Lindsay Jones ‏@bylindsayhjones 6m

John Fox press conference coming up in about 5 minutes. Given Fox's loss and lack of sleep by everyone in the room, this should be fun.

Vontae Davis, with a +7.9 grade earned the highest single-game grade we've ever given a CB for his work vs P Manning

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Seem to recall asking that question, too; apparently the answer is "watch the games." Fair enough, but I hope I don't see many more with such poor run AND pass blocking from us, because that's why we lost.
There were so many things. In addition to the poor blocking, there was the
fumble by Holliday. When I was in high school, we were taught to carry the
ball in the arm away from the defenders. I don't know why a professional
such as Holliday has not learned that.

There were two successive personal fouls with which Vickerson personally
kept a drive alive for the Colts, which led to a touchdown.

There was the fumble by Hillman that took away a virtually sure TD. Why
oh why did they have the diminutive Hillman in there in the first place and
send him up the gut inside the five-yard line? Whose idea was that?

There was the failure to challenge the TD they took away from Decker,
which I adamantly maintain should have been a TD. It is inexplicable why
Fox didn't challenge that after his absurd challenge last week. That is a
head-scratcher.

The fact is, the Denver Broncos were beaten by the only team who can
really beat them. That would be the Denver Broncos.
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[spikerman]

...There was the failure to challenge the TD they took away from Decker,
which I adamantly maintain should have been a TD. It is inexplicable why
Fox didn't challenge that after his absurd challenge last week. That is a
head-scratcher.


Top, the Broncos would have lost that challenge. Decker did not maintain possession through the catch. It was correctly called incomplete.

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Top, the Broncos would have lost that challenge. Decker did not maintain possession through the catch. It was correctly called incomplete.
I watched the replay time and time and time again. I maintain it should
have been a touchdown. And I'm not alone. Commentators were saying that,
too, some of them former football players.
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[BroncoNut]

That's what I thought.

i'm trying to put myself in Peyton's shoes, and of course I just can't. but let's just say I was in his situation. well, let's try to anyway. I think I'd be a bit queasy too. like the past is where it belongs, in the past type of thing. memory road, even if pleasant, can be kinda a drag for some.

[BroncoWave]

I watched the replay time and time and time again. I maintain it should
have been a touchdown. And I'm not alone. Commentators were saying that,
too, some of them former football players.
.

John Fox himself said today he didn't challenge it because from what he and the coaches saw, Decker didn't maintain possession long enough. I will take his word for it.

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John Fox himself said today he didn't challenge it because from what he and the coaches saw, Decker didn't maintain possession long enough. I will take his word for it.
I also read somewhere that he didn't get a really good view of it at the time.
If that's the case, then I don't fault him so much for not challenging it..

[BroncoWave]

I also read somewhere that he didn't get a really good view of it at the time.
If that's the case, then I don't fault him so much for not challenging it..

He had coaches in the booth who could see the replays. If that's their excuse, it's a poor one. Those coaches have to be on top of that stuff. We had the ball, so it's not like the other team could rush to the line to snap it before we got to see a good replay. That's a pretty big coaching failure if that's the reason it wasn't challenged.

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He had coaches in the booth who could see the replays. If that's their excuse, it's a poor one. Those coaches have to be on top of that stuff. We had the ball, so it's not like the other team could rush to the line to snap it before we got to see a good replay. That's a pretty big coaching failure if that's the reason it wasn't challenged.
Have to agree with that.

But here's another view that I posted in another thread . . .

http://www.milehighreport.com/mhr-film-study/2013/10/21/4863200/upon-further-review-no-challenge-by-fox
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[BroncoWave]

Even though I don't think it was a catch, I do find it odd he didn't at least try to challenge it. He challenges over 7 yards in the first quarter against Jax, but won't challenge this? His challenging habits are odd.

[MOtorboat]

Can we have John Elway disown his former boss in the national media, and maybe open up the roof for the game too?

[BroncoWave]

Going against Shanny does worry me a little bit, because you know he wants to win this one. Thankfully, though, their defense can't stop anybody. This will be a nice game for our offense to hopefully correct some of their recent woes.

[spikerman]

I watched the replay time and time and time again. I maintain it should
have been a touchdown. And I'm not alone. Commentators were saying that,
too, some of them former football players.
.

I'm not sure what to tell you, Top. Although I would never put myself on the level of an NFL official or the quality of play that I see at the HS and small college levels as that of the NFL, I do have to judge catch/no catch quite a bit. I thought that was a pretty easy call. I'm glad Fox didn't challenge.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Vic Lombardi ‏@VicLombardi 3h

Ya know, on the Mathis sack that led to a safety, if Manning steps up in the pocket, he doesn't get touched.

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Vic Lombardi ‏@VicLombardi 3h

Ya know, on the Mathis sack that led to a safety, if Manning steps up in the pocket, he doesn't get touched.
Good point by Vic. But did you see how FAST Mathis got there? I'm not sure Manning had a chance . . .
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