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Denver Native (Carol)
07-14-2013, 12:33 PM
Denver Broncos senior executives will meet Monday at the team's Dove Valley facility to discuss discipline for the recent driving under the influence arrests of personnel chiefs Matt Russell and Tom Heckert, according to a club source.

President Joe Ellis and executive vice president of football operations John Elway will be in attendance, and owner Pat Bowlen will be part of the talk via conference call. Per a team source, the team sanctions are expected to be significant, with financial repercussions and suspensions. The club has driven the process and, according to a team source, will levy its own discipline independent of the league discipline. The NFL then would look at the penalties and determine if further action is necessary.

rest - http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000217691/article/broncos-to-discuss-matt-russell-tom-heckert-discipline-monday

LTC Pain
07-14-2013, 01:00 PM
Russell and Heckert supremely ****** up. It's definitely time for the woodshed. Let the Broncos's FO response be proportional to the crime, without ruining either man for life. I'm glad no one got hurt as a result of their stupidity.

dogfish
07-14-2013, 01:27 PM
firing squad. . .

DenBronx
07-14-2013, 03:48 PM
Ellis, Bowlen AND Elway??? Yeah someones getting canned.

Denver Native (Carol)
07-14-2013, 04:29 PM
Ellis, Bowlen AND Elway??? Yeah someones getting canned.

I am thinking more suspended without pay

MOtorboat
07-14-2013, 06:11 PM
Anyone else realize how ******* stupid it is Denver is dealing with this right in the middle of negotiations with its franchise left tackle?

Can both of 'em.

Army Bronco
07-14-2013, 06:37 PM
Anyone else realize how ******* stupid it is Denver is dealing with this right in the middle of negotiations with its franchise left tackle?

Can both of 'em.I know, right. They are FO personnel and should set the example.

Denver Native (Carol)
07-14-2013, 07:02 PM
Anyone else realize how ******* stupid it is Denver is dealing with this right in the middle of negotiations with its franchise left tackle?

Can both of 'em.

Vic Lombardi ‏@VicLombardi

I hate giving play-by-play of contract negotiations. But that's why they invented Twitter. Broncos and Clady "very close to a deal".

LTC Pain
07-14-2013, 09:15 PM
Clady is signed :) http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_23659776/ryan-clady-broncos-close-new-contract-deadline-day

WTE
07-14-2013, 09:32 PM
I know, right. They are FO personnel and should set the example.

I am outraged at their behavior!

Army Bronco
07-14-2013, 10:24 PM
I know, right. They are FO personnel and should set the example.

I am outraged at their behavior!lol I laugh almost every time you post brother.

GEM
07-15-2013, 01:52 PM
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_23663616/quentin-saulsberry-adds-broncos-dui-problems-arrest-may

Another DUI arrest, this one from May. Young offensive lineman, Saulsberry arrested in Arapahoe County.

Denver Native (Carol)
07-15-2013, 01:56 PM
from article:


The Broncos have suspended Matt Russell indefinitely without pay and Tom Heckert is suspended one month without pay after their recent arrests on suspicion of drunken driving, an NFL source confirmed Monday.

Along with their suspensions, the Broncos will provide confident treatment Russell and Heckert they complete counseling programs for the two.

AND FROM ARTICLE


Also, Broncos offensive lineman Quentin Saulsberry was arrested May 19 in Arapahoe County on suspicion of drunken driving, The Denver Post has learned through a search of state records.

full article - http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_23663809/broncos-dui-arrests-lead-suspensions-matt-russell-tom

Denver Native (Carol)
07-15-2013, 02:25 PM
The Denver Broncos promised severe penalties for executives Matt Russell and Tom Heckert following their recent DUI arrests. On Monday, those penalties arrived.

Russell will be suspended indefinitely without pay, the team announced. Heckert will be suspended one month without pay for his infraction. Treatment will be provided as needed with an evaluation ongoing.

"The Broncos will support Matt and Tom during their suspensions and beyond as necessary," the team said in a statement. "They will be provided with treatment resources as needed in the form of education, counseling and other rehabilitation programs.

rest - http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000217882/article/denver-broncos-suspend-matt-russell-tom-heckert

Dzone
07-15-2013, 02:29 PM
What does "suspended indefinitely without pay" mean?

Denver Native (Carol)
07-15-2013, 02:33 PM
What does "suspended indefinitely without pay" mean?


"Specifics of their treatment will be kept confidential due to the personal nature of these matters. Both will be monitored closely to ensure compliance and will be thoroughly evaluated before any potential return to employment with the Denver Broncos."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000217882/article/denver-broncos-suspend-matt-russell-tom-heckert

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
07-15-2013, 02:33 PM
What does "suspended indefinitely without pay" mean?

It means he may or may not be fired. They will decide at a later date if they ever intend to bring him back.

Denver Native (Carol)
07-15-2013, 02:41 PM
from article:

STATEMENT FROM DENVER BRONCOS PRESIDENT JOE ELLIS



“We have closely reviewed the incidents involving Matt Russell and Tom Heckert independently as well as part of a larger issue we must address. Throughout this process, we had extensive conversations internally and consulted with the National Football League.

“This morning, we informed both Matt and Tom of the discipline as well as our expectations of them going forward. While they will be punished and held accountable, our first priority is their health and well-being. We must ensure they receive any care they need and support them however possible.

“Although they have expressed great remorse, this in no way excuses their conduct. The decisions they made away from the workplace undermined the integrity of our organization and the NFL as well as the values instilled by Pat Bowlen during his ownership.

AND

STATEMENT FROM DENVER BRONCOS EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT OF FOOTBALL OPERATIONS JOHN ELWAY


“When I was named to this position two years ago, I spoke of the role this organization has in the community. We all have an individual responsibility to represent this team in the appropriate manner at all times.

“It’s particularly disappointing that two members of my staff acted so irresponsibly. Simply put, it’s unacceptable and inexcusable.

full article - http://www.denverbroncos.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Broncos-Announce-Discipline-for-Russell-Heckert/7493cb84-509a-4b76-b4c8-6cb56cd37ac4

SR
07-15-2013, 02:43 PM
It means he may or may not be fired. They will decide at a later date if they ever intend to bring him back.

No it doesn't. It means he's suspended indefinitely, which means for a length of time that hasn't been determined.

Dzone
07-15-2013, 03:17 PM
They can work at Papa Johns if they need some extra cash,. But then again, Papa Johns probably doesnt hire guys with their records

DenBronx
07-15-2013, 03:34 PM
Sounds like they just got a slap on the wrist.

rationalfan
07-15-2013, 04:28 PM
something tells me dealing with elway and bowlen during this situation might have been punishment enough.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
07-15-2013, 06:09 PM
Sounds like they just got a slap on the wrist.

How is suspended without pay a slap on the wrist?

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
07-15-2013, 06:09 PM
No it doesn't. It means he's suspended indefinitely, which means for a length of time that hasn't been determined.

Chicken or the egg.... :D

That's sort of splitting hairs. I agree with you, and there is still a chance he doesn't come back.

dogfish
07-15-2013, 06:11 PM
How is suspended without pay a slap on the wrist?

well, when you compare it to a public burning at the stake in the middle of the 16th street mall, which is how they should have handled it. . .

SR
07-15-2013, 06:13 PM
Chicken or the egg.... :D

That's sort of splitting hairs. I agree with you, and there is still a chance he doesn't come back.

Not really. What you implied and what I said are entirely different. IMO, with the way the franchise is run, if they wanted to can him they wouldn't have suspended him.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
07-15-2013, 06:14 PM
well, when you compare it to a public burning at the stake in the middle of the 16th street mall, which is how they should have handled it. . .

I forgot about the public burnings, my apologies. :D I suppose a good caning is also an alternative. However, I personally would probably choose the caning over losing my income for a month or more.

DenBronx
07-15-2013, 06:21 PM
Sounds like they just got a slap on the wrist.

How is suspended without pay a slap on the wrist?

Compared to getting fired and losing your job? I would gladly take the one month without pay.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
07-15-2013, 06:39 PM
Compared to getting fired and losing your job? I would gladly take the one month without pay.

Personally, I don't think Heckert should lose his job over a DUI. I think a month without pay is firm enough.

Russel, on the other hand, was much more egregious. I could see him losing his job over his error. That's why the Broncos suspended him indefinitely without pay.

Dzone
07-15-2013, 07:15 PM
Im sure their salaries are public knowledge...How much do these guys make a year? 7 Figures? Something tells me they wont be hurting. Plus,Firing them would only lead to them being hired immediately by another team. Its not like they lost their job at Mcdonalds and have a family to feed.

MOtorboat
07-15-2013, 07:20 PM
Im sure their salaries are public knowledge...How much do these guys make a year? 7 Figures? Something tells me they wont be hurting. Plus,Firing them would only lead to them being hired immediately by another team. Its not like they lost their job at Mcdonalds and have a family to feed.

Latrell Sprewell disagrees.

Simple Jaded
07-16-2013, 12:08 AM
I hope Russell keeps his job, what?

LTC Pain
07-16-2013, 08:31 AM
Saulsberry should be dumped right now.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
07-16-2013, 11:23 AM
Saulsberry should be dumped right now.

He was on the practice squad last year. Do we know if he's even on the roster this year?

dogfish
07-16-2013, 01:47 PM
Saulsberry should be dumped right now.

someone needs to pay, damn it, and the fifth-stringer is highly expendable. . . :lol:

Cugel
07-16-2013, 02:24 PM
I would guess that Russell will be suspended for at least 2 months. There is talk of bringing in a "consultant" to handle his duties in the meantime. Looks like there could be an opening for a player personnel assistant in Denver.

Remember that this is just the beginning, not the END of the suspension. A lot will depend on Russell's trial. . . and running into a parked police car is not going to be good when you get into court. He's looking at some jail time if he's got any priors.

Whenever I think of jail for DUIs I always think of this classic! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k66epna2Sss)