Dish Network

[Dapper Dan]

They claim to be able to show every snap of the Denver Broncos. How does that work?

[BroncoJoe]

if the ad was in Denver, because they can give you the local channel. If not, they're most likely lying.

[Dapper Dan]

if the ad was in Denver, because they can give you the local channel. If not, they're most likely lying.

So it's an area thing? That kinda sucks? They are just playing on the fact that every game will either be primetime or local via CBS or Fox? That doesn't seem like a big deal.

[Dapper Dan]

http://www.dish.com/redirects/partners/broncos/

That's the site. I saw the ad on my Broncos Mobile app.

[chazoe60]

I've heard, and this could be completely wrong, that if you give them a Colorado address and get the local channel package you'll get Denver Channels and thus get the Bronco games. Where I've heard this is from retirees who travel around in RVs and set up their dishes all over the country but because their based out of Colorado they get Denver channels. Now, you would probably need a friend in Colorado whose address you could use as a billingg address or whatever, but it might be worth investigating.

[weazel]

I've heard, and this could be completely wrong, that if you give them a Colorado address and get the local channel package you'll get Denver Channels and thus get the Bronco games. Where I've heard this is from retirees who travel around in RVs and set up their dishes all over the country but because their based out of Colorado they get Denver channels. Now, you would probably need a friend in Colorado whose address you could use as a billingg address or whatever, but it might be worth investigating.

no, Dish Network has spot beaming. They spot beam local channels to local areas, meaning I can give them a Colorado address but being in Canada, I may not get that beam. It's not that small of a area beam but if you were on the East coast you wont be getting Denver locals. I used to have dish and did receive the Denver CBS station though. Dish uses a lot of different satellites for different parts of the country so it isn't always going to be the same, DTV is a lot more straight forward and the spot beams easier to figure out.

here is a site that can show you what spot beams you will receive. http://www.dishuser.org/satmaps.php

[chazoe60]

no, Dish Network has spot beaming. They spot beam local channels to local areas, meaning I can give them a Colorado address but being in Canada, I may not get that beam. It's not that small of a area beam but if you were on the East coast you wont be getting Denver locals. I used to have dish and did receive the Denver CBS station though.

Okay. Well most the retirees I've talked to that do that travel mostly in the Western US.

[BroncoJoe]

http://www.dish.com/redirects/partners/broncos/

That's the site. I saw the ad on my Broncos Mobile app.

totally misleading ad.

[underrated29]

Charlie Ergen is a supreme A-hole! Met him a couple of times.

[Tned]

no, Dish Network has spot beaming. They spot beam local channels to local areas, meaning I can give them a Colorado address but being in Canada, I may not get that beam. It's not that small of a area beam but if you were on the East coast you wont be getting Denver locals. I used to have dish and did receive the Denver CBS station though.

here is a site that can show you what spot beams you will receive. http://www.dishuser.org/satmaps.php

There was a time that some of the national channels that Dish broadcast was Denver. It's possible that they are still beaming Denver channels nationally in SD, and spot beaming HD, much like Direct broadcasts NY/LA nationally and the locals on spot beams.

[weazel]

There was a time that some of the national channels that Dish broadcast was Denver. It's possible that they are still beaming Denver channels nationally in SD, and spot beaming HD, much like Direct broadcasts NY/LA nationally and the locals on spot beams.

I think you are probably right, CBS9 could be a SD national. I know at one time they didnt spot beam at all, those were good times but they were running out of channels on the receivers.

[BeefStew25]

Its funny how we have all these satellites above us beaming our shows. I wonder if they ever get lonely up in that cold cruel environment.

[SR]

Dish blows.

[BeefStew25]

Dish blows.

Jason Collins has Dish.

[SR]

Jason Collins has Dish.

He's making the wrong choice. Jason Phillips = life not together.

[Timmy!]

:lol: dish.

[weazel]

Charlie Ergen is a supreme A-hole! Met him a couple of times.

figures

[underrated29]

figures



Almost did a mini biz co-op thing together. Luckily for me my ex wife worked at dish at the time. So I got a little inside info on him. Supreme Douche! In the highest regard. He signs contracts with companies and then tries to back out or renegotiate the price after- then holding whatever he can hostage or blackmailed. One of lifes biggest **** suckers I have ever seen.

[BroncoJoe]

Almost did a mini biz co-op thing together. Luckily for me my ex wife worked at dish at the time. So I got a little inside info on him. Supreme Douche! In the highest regard. He signs contracts with companies and then tries to back out or renegotiate the price after- then holding whatever he can hostage or blackmailed. One of lifes biggest **** suckers I have ever seen.

And is reflected 100% by the company he runs.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I've heard, and this could be completely wrong, that if you give them a Colorado address and get the local channel package you'll get Denver Channels and thus get the Bronco games. Where I've heard this is from retirees who travel around in RVs and set up their dishes all over the country but because their based out of Colorado they get Denver channels. Now, you would probably need a friend in Colorado whose address you could use as a billingg address or whatever, but it might be worth investigating.


no, Dish Network has spot beaming. They spot beam local channels to local areas, meaning I can give them a Colorado address but being in Canada, I may not get that beam. It's not that small of a area beam but if you were on the East coast you wont be getting Denver locals. I used to have dish and did receive the Denver CBS station though. Dish uses a lot of different satellites for different parts of the country so it isn't always going to be the same, DTV is a lot more straight forward and the spot beams easier to figure out.

here is a site that can show you what spot beams you will receive. http://www.dishuser.org/satmaps.php

I use to install dish network. I did a "mover" for a family that moved to Idaho from Alabama. When I hooked them up they were still getting all of the locals from Alabama prior to calling and giving them the new zip code. I saw the same thing with a family from Utah.

So, whatever zip code you give them, those are the local stations you'll get. It's the same 3 satellites anywhere in the United States. "110, 119, 129"

[Dapper Dan]

Well played, DirecTV.

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/2888/screeneq.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/444/screeneq.jpg/)

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Well played, DirecTV.

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/2888/screeneq.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/444/screeneq.jpg/)

:laugh: :laugh:

[weazel]

I use to install dish network. I did a "mover" for a family that moved to Idaho from Alabama. When I hooked them up they were still getting all of the locals from Alabama prior to calling and giving them the new zip code. I saw the same thing with a family from Utah.

So, whatever zip code you give them, those are the local stations you'll get. It's the same 3 satellites anywhere in the United States. "110, 119, 129"

how long ago was that? They do have spot beaming, I used to hack DTV and Dishnet and ALL channels were open to me, but after a certain point I could only get the locals that were in the spot beam.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

how long ago was that? They do have spot beaming, I used to hack DTV and Dishnet and ALL channels were open to me, but after a certain point I could only get the locals that were in the spot beam.

It was actually just last summer. I did dish installs last year while I was waiting for a non-compete agreement to expire. Honestly, I don't know what spot beaming is. I know that in the continental United States it's the same 3 satellites I mentioned. I also know they give you your locals based on zip codes.

I only did it for about 9 months, which is why I'm not exactly an expert on the subject. Installing dish or direct tv isn't rocket science anyway.

[weazel]

It was actually just last summer. I did dish installs last year while I was waiting for a non-compete agreement to expire. Honestly, I don't know what spot beaming is. I know that in the continental United States it's the same 3 satellites I mentioned. I also know they give you your locals based on zip codes.

I only did it for about 9 months, which is why I'm not exactly an expert on the subject. Installing dish or direct tv isn't rocket science anyway.

Odd, according to everything online they still use spot beaming. I know they overlapped so maybe thats what went on. I know I still received Denver and Atlanta locals when I lost others.
no I never said it was rocket science at all, people do get confused when trying to set up switches for some reason though.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Odd, according to everything online they still use spot beaming. I know they overlapped so maybe thats what went on. I know I still received Denver and Atlanta locals when I lost others.
no I never said it was rocket science at all, people do get confused when trying to set up switches for some reason though.

Which switches are you talking about? Are you talking about adding receivers to an existing LNB?

I guess it comes down to how big of an area spot beaming covers. Maybe Canada is too far north? I know the eastern Seaboard has a slightly different LNB. Utah locals in Idaho would make sense, but I'm honestly not sure how locals from Alabama were available. I'm not sure where the beggining point for Eastern arc LNB's begins. However, I do know it's the same 3 satellites for the US wherever you are.

[weazel]

Which switches are you talking about? Are you talking about adding receivers to an existing LNB?

I guess it comes down to how big of an area spot beaming covers. Maybe Canada is too far north? I know the eastern Seaboard has a slightly different LNB. Utah locals in Idaho would make sense, but I'm honestly not sure how locals from Alabama were available. I'm not sure where the beggining point for Eastern arc LNB's begins. However, I do know it's the same 3 satellites for the US wherever you are.

no, diseqc, sw34 and sw44 type switches. For some reason when you start adding those into the equation a lot of people I've seen totally lose track of whats going on.
Yes I agree it's the same 3 satellites, from what I read the spot beams have to do with the transponders.

Here is a thread that someone made explaining what spot beams work in what areas with maps, spreadsheets and all the other stuff. I never really looked at it because I haven't used DTV, Dish or FTA in over 2 years and only use Canadian satellite now.
http://www.dbstalk.com/topic/185336-spotbeam-satellite-transponder-map/

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

no, diseqc, sw34 and sw44 type switches. For some reason when you start adding those into the equation a lot of people I've seen totally lose track of whats going on.
Yes I agree it's the same 3 satellites, from what I read the spot beams have to do with the transponders.

Here is a thread that someone made explaining what spot beams work in what areas with maps, spreadsheets and all the other stuff. I never really looked at it because I haven't used DTV, Dish or FTA in over 2 years and only use Canadian satellite now.
http://www.dbstalk.com/topic/185336-spotbeam-satellite-transponder-map/

That explains my lack of understanding. I never really understood what the transponders were and what they did. I knew what my signal strength had to be on them, but all I had to do was know how to peak the dish.

The 33 and 44 switches are what I thought you were talking about. Typically, when you get an HD dish from dish network the lnb on the dish only has enough outputs for 3 receivers. The dish 500's (standard definition) only have 2 outputs. So, if you have a customer (it happens a lot with apartments) who has more than that number of receivers you have to add a switch. Aparment complexes will sometimes have a switch going to a switch because they're trying to run 6-8 receivers off of one dish. I understand how they work, but they were a pain in the butt to understand at first. They just aren't something that get used very much, so new guys like me that haven't seen them much tend to get confused easily.

An example would be 3 lines going from the dish to the switch (which just replaces the ground block), then four lines going from the switch to receivers. At least, that's how I remember it. :D

The Hopper\Joey system is pretty cool. Do you have a hopper?

[weazel]

That explains my lack of understanding. I never really understood what the transponders were and what they did. I knew what my signal strength had to be on them, but all I had to do was know how to peak the dish.

The 33 and 44 switches are what I thought you were talking about. Typically, when you get an HD dish from dish network the lnb on the dish only has enough outputs for 3 receivers. The dish 500's (standard definition) only have 2 outputs. So, if you have a customer (it happens a lot with apartments) who has more than that number of receivers you have to add a switch. Aparment complexes will sometimes have a switch going to a switch because they're trying to run 6-8 receivers off of one dish. I understand how they work, but they were a pain in the butt to understand at first. They just aren't something that get used very much, so new guys like me that haven't seen them much tend to get confused easily.

An example would be 3 lines going from the dish to the switch (which just replaces the ground block), then four lines going from the switch to receivers. At least, that's how I remember it. :D

The Hopper\Joey system is pretty cool. Do you have a hopper?

nope, all my stuff is pretty straight forward now. I still have 4 dishes up at the house but only one dish/two lnb's are used with 5 standard HD PVR receivers. So just 2 dual LNB going to two powered SW44's going to 5 receivers.

I used to have 4 dishes that totalled 7 LNB's going to a SW44 and a bunch of SW34's and then to a DTV receiver, a Dish receiver, 3 Bell receivers and 2 FTA.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

nope, all my stuff is pretty straight forward now. I still have 4 dishes up at the house but only one dish/two lnb's are used with 5 standard HD PVR receivers. So just 2 dual LNB going to two powered SW44's going to 5 receivers.

I used to have 4 dishes that totalled 7 LNB's going to a SW44 and a bunch of SW34's and then to a DTV receiver, a Dish receiver, 3 Bell receivers and 2 FTA.

You should get the hopper\joey set up. You could have all of your dvr stuff available in every room. It's a really cool system. I think it's better technology than anything Direct TV has to offer. I just haven't wanted to sign a new contract and pay the $10 a month increase for whole home DVR.

BTW, if you don't like all of those dishes up there, you can remove them easily without creating any exposed holes. You just detach the mast from the base plate. That will leave the base plate screwed to the roof, but allows you to take the mast and dish down. It takes about 5 or 10 minutes, pretty easy. You just need a couple 7\16" wrenches.

[weazel]

You should get the hopper\joey set up. You could have all of your dvr stuff available in every room. It's a really cool system. I think it's better technology than anything Direct TV has to offer. I just haven't wanted to sign a new contract and pay the $10 a month increase for whole home DVR.

BTW, if you don't like all of those dishes up there, you can remove them easily without creating any exposed holes. You just detach the mast from the base plate. That will leave the base plate screwed to the roof, but allows you to take the mast and dish down. It takes about 5 or 10 minutes, pretty easy. You just need a couple 7\16" wrenches.

we can't purchase Dish Network stuff up here and Bell doesn't offer the hopper. All my dishes are on a steel pole.

[Timmy!]

You should get the hopper\joey set up. You could have all of your dvr stuff available in every room. It's a really cool system. I think it's better technology than anything Direct TV has to offer. I just haven't wanted to sign a new contract and pay the $10 a month increase for whole home DVR.

BTW, if you don't like all of those dishes up there, you can remove them easily without creating any exposed holes. You just detach the mast from the base plate. That will leave the base plate screwed to the roof, but allows you to take the mast and dish down. It takes about 5 or 10 minutes, pretty easy. You just need a couple 7\16" wrenches.

Genie blows the Hopper away, and in general dtv crushes dish in technology. Its not even close. Oh look, my hopper can record 6 shows...but only in primetime on network feeds

[weazel]

Genie blows the Hopper away, and in general dtv crushes dish in technology. Its not even close. Oh look, my hopper can record 6 shows...but only in primetime on network feeds

I liked my DTV better than Dish as well... the audio and video were both better quality ...in my experience anyway.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Genie blows the Hopper away, and in general dtv crushes dish in technology. Its not even close. Oh look, my hopper can record 6 shows...but only in primetime on network feeds


I agree with you that Direct TV has better technology over all, but I've installed both, and I would take the hopper over the genie any day. Of course, I don't really have a need to record 6 things at once.

I like the fact that you can see all the tuners and what's being played on them from any room with the hopper system. I also like the fact you can pause live tv and continue watching it from any other room using the tuner screen

[Dapper Dan]

DirecTV is gay.

[Timmy!]

I agree with you that Direct TV has better technology over all, but I've installed both, and I would take the hopper over the genie any day. Of course, I don't really have a need to record 6 things at once.

I like the fact that you can see all the tuners and what's being played on them from any room with the hopper system. I also like the fact you can pause live tv and continue watching it from any other room using the tuner screen

Hopper isn't a bad system, it and its joeys are the same as genie with client boxes, but screw client boxes. Its pretty much an anything dish can do dtv does better deal I think after playing with both...then again I'm biased cause I get Dtvs best stuff for free lol.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Hopper isn't a bad system, it and its joeys are the same as genie with client boxes, but screw client boxes. Its pretty much an anything dish can do dtv does better deal I think after playing with both...then again I'm biased cause I get Dtvs best stuff for free lol.


They're similar, but not the same. You can't access the other tuners with the genie system. You can't pull up a screen in any room and see what's being watched in the other rooms. You can't pause live tv, walk into another room and start watching it again there. The genie is pretty cool, I just like the hopper better, especially having kids.

[weazel]

Our companies dont offer it, and we pay more... ********!

[OrangeHoof]

Anyone who needs to record six channels at once is either a football scout or somebody who watches way too much television.

[Dapper Dan]

I can't find 6 good shows period.

[olathebroncofan]

I can't find 6 good shows period.

I agreed with this.

I will say that I have been able to watch more boxing on direct tv than I did with Comcast or surewest

[Dapper Dan]

I agreed with this.

I will say that I have been able to watch more boxing on direct tv than I did with Comcast or surewest

What still exists?