Shaun Phillips to the Broncos

[camdisco24]

Per Schefter on Twitter:


Broncos are signing former Chargers LB Shaun Phillips.

Lindsay Jones Reaction:


Very, very interesting about Shaun Phillips. He talked sooooooooo much trash with Broncos over the years.

Thoughts?

[Poet]

I think he's got gas left in the tank. Interesting signing, I'd like to know if he's going to play end for you?

[chazoe60]

Not sure how I'll stop hating him

[Northman]

As Mr. Elway would say, "Welcome to the good side".

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis

Shaun Phillips had 9.5 sacks for Chargers last year. Thing is, he was one of Charger players Bronco players disliked most in this rivalry.

Chargers OLB-DE and free agent Shaun Phillips visited Broncos yesterday at Dove Valley.

Adam Schefter just stated that Phillips will sign with the Broncos

[camdisco24]

As Mr. Elway would say, "Welcome to the good side".


Or "Welcome to a real franchise."

[SR]

I think he's got gas left in the tank. Interesting signing, I'd like to know if he's going to play end for you?

He has to...at 6'3", 250 lbs he's too long to be a 4-3 OLB. No more Freeney or Abraham talk now.

[rationalfan]

3rd down specialist, or can he still play the run?

Also, is this the guy mcd trash talked during a pregame?

[Rick]

If he can provide enough pass rush to make teams not dbl up on Miller so much, or at least exploit teams when they DO dbl team Miller then I could care less who he is or played for.

Welcome aboard.

[Timmy!]

Decent signing.

[Poet]

It would be ironic if he has his best games against Phillip Rivers.

[Simple Jaded]

"We own you!" Almost literally.

Lmmfao.

[Nomad]

top scribe mentioned him yesterday.

[Simple Jaded]

It's just a sound, solid move. I like it.

[Northman]

It would be ironic if he has his best games against Phillip Rivers.

Even better if he starts trash talking with Phyliss. :lol:

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis

Confirming Broncos did sign former Charger enemy Shaun Phillips to 1-year deal.

[Magnificent Seven]

Orange Crush Defense Will Rise!

[SR]

It's just a sound, solid move. I like it.

I like it A LOT. That explains why they didn't go for a pass rusher early in the draft. My opinion of the first two rounds of the draft just did a 180.

[Rick]

Gives time for a guy like Smith to get over his injury and absorb the game a little bit.

[Northman]

I like it A LOT. That explains why they didn't go for a pass rusher early in the draft. My opinion of the first two rounds of the draft just did a 180.

I still didnt mind the first 2 picks but as you said it does make a LOT of sense as too why they didnt rush (no pun intended) to grab a DE early.

[I Eat Staples]

I love this signing. This front office definitely had a plan.

[Nomad]

So the FO had a plan.....hmmmmm!:lol:

[Poet]

Somewhere Zam's theory of drafting is just dying a horrible, horrible death.

[Simple Jaded]

I like it A LOT. That explains why they didn't go for a pass rusher early in the draft. My opinion of the first two rounds of the draft just did a 180.

Seriously, just a solid, intelligent move. Very under the radar, as far as I know nobody (but Top) had Phillips on their short list but he is still a solid pass rusher. We'll see, could just be much ado about nothin.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Vic Lombardi ‏@VicLombardi

Phillips is more of an OLB than a DE, but any Broncos fan knows he makes plays. We've seen it.

Love the Shaun Phillips signing. Bottom lline, he wanted to play here. His agent has been knocking on the Broncos door for weeks.

[Slick]

He's a savvy veteran player who I'm sure is hungry for a title. I think he'll give it his all. I like it.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Vic Lombardi ‏@VicLombardi

They got a little tired waiting for Freeney. I think that ship has sailed with Phillips on board. Still a chance, but slim.

[Nomad]

Phillips is a proven player compared to a rookie regardless of his age.

SR, there is still a glimpse of hope for Freeney per Vic:lol:

[Simple Jaded]

Vic Lombardi ‏@VicLombardi

Phillips is more of an OLB than a DE, but any Broncos fan knows he makes plays. We've seen it.

Love the Shaun Phillips signing. Bottom lline, he wanted to play here. His agent has been knocking on the Broncos door for weeks.

Dumervil was more of an OLB too.

[zbeg]

Ugghggh I like the move strategically, but it's going to take a little bit to dial down my seething hatred of the guy and recalibrate my feelings.

Nice move by the front office, even if it means I have to take down my Shaun Phillips dartboard.

[Magnificent Seven]

4-3 :defense:

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[OrangeHoof]

A cap-friendly alternative to Freeney and Abraham. Expect him only in passing situations but line him up with Miller, Wolfe, Ayers and Sylvester the Molester and now you have some O-coords getting the shakes.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis

Shaun Phillips trash talking Josh McDaniels: Something tells me Bronco fans are saying: That Shaun Phillips is not such a bad guy after all.

Shaun Phillips told Josh McDaniels: "I'm going to kick your *****.'' McDaniels retort: "We own you.'' Chargers then won 32-3.

In November 2009, Chargers OLB Shaun Phillips accosted then Broncos' coach Josh McDaniels walking out of tunnel. http://www.denverpost.com/devlin/ci_13946163 …

[Northman]

Lol McD "we own you" and then get our ass kicked. haha.

Well, lets hope Phillips is more like Neil Smith here and not Dale Carter.

[zbeg]

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis

Shaun Phillips trash talking Josh McDaniels: Something tells me Bronco fans are saying: That Shaun Phillips is not such a bad guy after all.

Shaun Phillips told Josh McDaniels: "I'm going to kick your *****.'' McDaniels retort: "We own you.'' Chargers then won 32-3.

In November 2009, Chargers OLB Shaun Phillips accosted then Broncos' coach Josh McDaniels walking out of tunnel. http://www.denverpost.com/devlin/ci_13946163 …

Uggh. What a classless punk. Ugghgh. I need a stiff drink to get over this.

(And before anyone says "but it was McDaniels! He's a hero!" Let's keep in mind the dude accosted an opposing team's coach after a game. That's not the sign of a mentally balanced person.)

[Northman]

I dont condone Phillips at all but its no surprise given McDaniels issues with Jay and then Haley that he had his fair share of blame. But i hope that Phillips concentrates on his play and less on his mouth so we can get a title.

[nevcraw]

'accosted' is a little strong for trash talking.. plus it was against Mcdoosh.
like this signing.

[Army Bronco]

This years team is reminding me more and more of our 1st SB team. We just signed a defensive player that helped kick our butts over the years and we even drafted a DT...ala Trevor Pryce. How about our new RB who grew up watching the Broncos and wanting to be like TD. I'm really excited.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

not to mention the playoff upset at home the previous year.

[Canmore]

not to mention the playoff upset at home the previous year.

Complete with identical 13-3 records and the number 1 seed.

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4-3 :defense:

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I wish you would have a Broncos uniform photo shopped onto that guy.

Can't stand to see that Dolts uni next to our star LBs . . .
.

[Army Bronco]

not to mention the playoff upset at home the previous year.I know!!!! Maybe Rahim Moore will knock himself and two other players in our SB win this year like the Smiling Assassin..lol. ; )

[SmilinAssasSin27]

Complete with identical 13-3 records and the number 1 seed.

and an idiotic, inexcusable play by a defender. Remember Michael Dean?

[Canmore]

and an idiotic, inexcusable play by a defender. Remember Michael Dean?

Yes!! He couldn't get his fat butt off of the field.

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Uggh. What a classless punk. Ugghgh. I need a stiff drink to get over this.

(And before anyone says "but it was McDaniels! He's a hero!" Let's keep in mind the dude accosted an opposing team's coach after a game. That's not the sign of a mentally balanced person.)
Well, I remember another classless punk (Romo) who did a lot for the team.

Let's hope this one can, too . . .
.

[smith49]

I've always liked Phillips as a player. Mostly because he's good. Can he transition to a 4-3?? I'm guessing he'll be just fine. I'm also positive he will want to destroy his old team, not that that's going to be tough to do anyhow. I like it a lot.

[Magnificent Seven]

I wish you would have a Broncos uniform photo shopped onto that guy.

Can't stand to see that Dolts uni next to our star LBs . . .
.

Can anyone do that?

[Canmore]

Can anyone do that?

Shake can.

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Can anyone do that?
It'd be a piece of cake for Alastor.

Say, Chaz, why don't you ask him? :D
.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- In about 45 minutes Saturday, the Elvis Dumervil "fax pas" finally, mercifully, wound to its resolution.

In the short term, the Broncos hope his production will be replaced by ex-Chargers linebacker Shaun Phillips. Phillips agreed to terms with the Broncos on Saturday, and the prolific pass rusher -- 69 sacks in nine seasons, including 24 in the last three years -- will line up as a pass-rushing defensive end, supplementing Robert Ayers and working opposite Von Miller.

What Phillips does is provide experience, another edge threat that opposing blocking schemes must take seriously, and time. Time is what the Broncos' first fifth-round pick, defensive end Quanterus Smith, needs in order to polish the rough edges of his game and fully recover from the torn anterior cruciate ligament he suffered last November.

rest - plus picture of Ball & Webster with Elway & Fox
http://www.denverbroncos.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/What-Smith-Phillips-Bring-to-Broncos/f5519e21-8ae9-4402-a56f-62788f321b9d

[VonDoom]

I hope Abraham and Freeney enjoy waiting for that phone to ring. The most telling part of this signing is that Phillips supposedly really wanted to play here. I'm not sure why, given their history, but I certainly won't complain. That makes him seem motivated, and makes this already solid draft seem even better.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Shaun Phillips @ShaunPhillips95

Thank you sd for the 9 great years. Time for a new chapter I couldn't be happier.

[Simple Jaded]

Go **** yourself San Diego. You too Alistor.

[Dzone]

Great pick up...This guy is a great athlete.. He is going to have a huge year. 10+ sacks. Dumer-who???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRkEuis0_js

[aberdien]

Always liked him as a player in spite of all that rivalry stuff.

[BeefStew25]

Every team needs a **** sucker.

[SR]

Dumervil was more of an OLB too.

One advantage Phillips has is he is 6'3" and 250. Same weight as Elvis, but a few inches taller with what I am sure is a moderately large wingspan. He reminds me of a smaller version of Justin Tuck.

[TXBRONC]

I've never been a big fan of Phillips but he's consistent.

[cmc0605]

It will be interesting to see how Del Rio uses our suite of pass rushers schematically. Just some names of guys who can get to the QB now: Von Miller, Wolfe, Phillips, Robert Ayers, Quanterus Smith. You'll need some DTs in any package, Sly Williams and/or Knighton and/or Vickerson with some Bannan or Unrein in rotation. Will be interesting to see how it all plays out and what combinations work best for 3rd and long.

[ForgettingBrandonMarshall]

It will be interesting to see how Del Rio uses our suite of pass rushers schematically. Just some names of guys who can get to the QB now: Von Miller, Wolfe, Phillips, Robert Ayers, Quanterus Smith. You'll need some DTs in any package, Sly Williams and/or Knighton and/or Vickerson with some Bannan or Unrein in rotation. Will be interesting to see how it all plays out and what combinations work best for 3rd and long.

Did we re-sign Bannan? I believe he is gone.

[Simple Jaded]

Bannon is a FA, I would hope he's still a possibility. Along with Dan Koppen.

[cmc0605]

Did we re-sign Bannan? I believe he is gone.

Oh, guess I'm out of touch...

[Ziggy]

It will be interesting to see how Del Rio uses our suite of pass rushers schematically. Just some names of guys who can get to the QB now: Von Miller, Wolfe, Phillips, Robert Ayers, Quanterus Smith. You'll need some DTs in any package, Sly Williams and/or Knighton and/or Vickerson with some Bannan or Unrein in rotation. Will be interesting to see how it all plays out and what combinations work best for 3rd and long.

My guess would be:
Base D-
DE- Wolfe
DT- Knighton
DT- Williams
DE- Ayers

Pass D-
DE- Miller
DT- Williams
DT- Wolfe
DE- Phillips

[SR]

Bannon is a FA, I would hope he's still a possibility. Along with Dan Koppen.


Koppen has to be brought back IMO

[TXBRONC]

Oh, guess I'm out of touch...

Nah, a little confused maybe. Zam on the other hand is out of touch.

[Simple Jaded]

Uggh. What a classless punk. Ugghgh. I need a stiff drink to get over this.

(And before anyone says "but it was McDaniels! He's a hero!" Let's keep in mind the dude accosted an opposing team's coach after a game. That's not the sign of a mentally balanced person.)

Tonight, bombshell! Players accosts coach!

[cmc0605]

Honestly, I've given up pretending that any NFL roster is going to be composed of 53 well-mannered, team-first, non trash-talking, non-punk, intelligent, straight-and-true classy guys, none of whom ever did drugs, held a gun, or were rude to other players/coaches, and have unquestionable work ethic.

Whatever impression Phillips left in the past, he's a Bronco now, and the only thing I care about is that he can be on the field to perform. He never did anything so unforgivable (like rape a girl) that I absolutely don't want association with him. We have a lot of other guys to play the classy card with.

[Dapper Dan]

"@VicLombardi: The more I hear about this Phillips signing, the better it gets. Very incentive-laden. He's gonna want some sacks to get paid. Love it."

[bcbronc]

I guess the only potential draw back to such an incentive-laden contract is if Phillips isn't getting the snaps to meet those incentives he might become a bit of a malcontent. Not too big a risk though, as presumably if he's not getting the snaps it's because someone else is proving to be more worthy, so the malcontent would be cut.

I like the signing. Low risk, lots of potential reward, wants to be here and is likely fully aware of the role he'll be given. Really like the look of our front 7 right now.

[Chidoze]

Hated him when he was with the Chargers, will hate him as a Bronco. Him & Philip can eat a bag of dicks for all I care. F you Shaun.

[bcbronc]

Hated him when he was with the Chargers, will hate him as a Bronco. Him & Philip can eat a bag of dicks for all I care. F you Shaun.

First time he gets a sack on 3rd down, you'll soften.

[Army Bronco]

Hated him when he was with the Chargers, will hate him as a Bronco. Him & Philip can eat a bag of dicks for all I care. F you Shaun.

First time he gets a sack on 3rd down, you'll soften.lol...or he will yell " Hell yeah..I still hate you"

[TXBRONC]

I wonder if this means that Elway will no longer try and sign Freeney or Abraham. :ponder:

[Nomad]

I don't recall what Phillips did to receive the hate other than be a Charger.....could someone fill me in TIA. He's a BRONCO now.

[TXBRONC]

I don't recall what Phillips did to receive the hate other than be a Charger.....could someone fill me in TIA. He's a BRONCO now.

He talked a lot smack. In '09 he told McDaniels that the Chargers we're going kick our ass and they did 32-3.

Even in losing he seems to always run his mouth. That aside he has been a good and I think he's good pickup that help replace the loss of Dumervil.

[Rick]

There are exceptions to every rule but in most cases can't hold everything against a person once they see the light.

Even Darth Vader became good in the end :)

[turftoad]

Uggh. What a classless punk. Ugghgh. I need a stiff drink to get over this.

(And before anyone says "but it was McDaniels! He's a hero!" Let's keep in mind the dude accosted an opposing team's coach after a game. That's not the sign of a mentally balanced person.)

Accosted Mcdaniels?? I wish he would have beat the shit out of him.

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I wonder if this means that Elway will no longer try and sign Freeney or Abraham. :ponder:
Doesn't sound like it. Elway said that, while the door is never shut,
they're pretty happy with the setup they have now . . .
.

[TXBRONC]

Doesn't sound like it. Elway said that, while the door is never shut,
they're pretty happy with the setup they have now . . .
.

That doesn't hurt my feelings.

[dogfish]

good signing. . .

i'd bet that, at least initially, we'll see ayers at RDE in the base defense, with philips probably replacing him in some of the nickel and dime looks. . . but more importantly, remember that we often didn't play a four or even three-man line on a lot of third downs-- particularly third and long against multiple-receiver sets. . . we played a lot of that amoeba package with only one or two down linemen-- philips will certainly play in that package, where he can rush from a two-point stance. . . that's where he likely brings the most value. . .

[Canmore]

good signing. . .

i'd bet that, at least initially, we'll see ayers at RDE in the base defense, with philips probably replacing him in some of the nickel and dime looks. . . but more importantly, remember that we often didn't play a four or even three-man line on a lot of third downs-- particularly third and long against multiple-receiver sets. . . we played a lot of that amoeba package with only one or two down linemen-- philips will certainly play in that package, where he can rush from a two-point stance. . . that's where he likely brings the most value. . .

Phillips takes care of a need. Sounds like he wanted to go to Denver and he took an incentive laden contract. Sounds like a plus. He got 9.5 sacks last year in San Diego without a lot of help. He should be alright here.

[NightTerror218]

I hatred dies once player done arrange and blue.... uh unless he injured a bronco or something.

[BroncoJoe]

Very reminiscent of the Neil Smith signing... hated that dude too.

hope it has the same results.

[Dzone]

He will be better than Dumervil...especially in this defense and Von on other side

[Dapper Dan]

He will be better than Dumervil...especially in this defense and Von on other side

That's a stretch.

[Dzone]

That's a stretch.
LOLNot at all...Can you give us reasons why he wont play as well as Dumervil?

[Dapper Dan]

LOLNot at all...Can you give us reasons why he wont play as well as Dumervil?

I'm not saying it's impossible for us to get lucky and to have Phillips play as well as Doom. But right now saying that he's better than Doom doesn't make sense to me. How long was Phillips a Free Agent? Teams jumped all over Doom, but not Phillips. Teams are willing to give Doom a lot of money, not Phillips. If, somehow, Phillips is better than Doom, I'm not the only one that missed it.

[Ravage!!!]

Great signing. Gives us the 1 year pass rusher that we need to hold the spot until our guy heals up. I liked the daft choice, and like how we decided to deal with his injury.

[Ravage!!!]

I'm not saying it's impossible for us to get lucky and to have Phillips play as well as Doom. But right now saying that he's better than Doom doesn't make sense to me. How long was Phillips a Free Agent? Teams jumped all over Doom, but not Phillips. Teams are willing to give Doom a lot of money, not Phillips. If, somehow, Phillips is better than Doom, I'm not the only one that missed it.

exactly. There really is no reason to believe he's going to be "better" than Doom. But he'll be a decent replacement on passing downs, and he'll have incentives to try and get ONE more contract after this season.

[CoachChaz]

Who gives a ****. The Replacements is on TNT

[Dapper Dan]

Who gives a ****. The Replacements is on TNT

I watched it a few days ago. They put it on these things called DVDs.

[TXBRONC]

He will be better than Dumervil...especially in this defense and Von on other side


Based on what? He's going to be 33 years old in about two weeks and has only managed roughly the same numbers as Dumervil over the last five years so doubtful he'll be better. If he can manage the same production here that he did in San Diego we'll be fine.

[Dzone]

well, in any case, all my tongue in cheek homerisms aside, Shaun Phillips is at least not on a decline like Freeney

[TXBRONC]

well, in any case, all my tongue in cheek homerisms aside, Shaun Phillips is at least not on a decline like Freeney

Sorry my friend it isn't always easy to see the tongue in cheek humor. Anyway, Phillips has been consistent so that's a plus but if there is a concern it's he going being in unfamilar position. He's always been a strongside linebacker now he'll be playing on the weakside with a hand in the dirt. My hope is that Dogfish is right in how Phillips will be used at least in the beginning where he's coming in primarily on passing downs.

[weazel]

great signing that filled a need at a cheap price!

[Chidoze]

Hated him when he was with the Chargers, will hate him as a Bronco. Him & Philip can eat a bag of dicks for all I care. F you Shaun.

First time he gets a sack on 3rd down, you'll soften.
Oh don't get me wrong, if he gets a big sack I'll be happy & cheer. The dislike for him will not be swept aside so easily though.

I listened to him talk all that shit for all those years about the Chargers being better, watching him & Philip mocking our players on the field.

He could have 20 sacks for the Broncos next year, but I will still hate him & he can still go F himself.

[Dapper Dan]

well, in any case, all my tongue in cheek homerisms aside, Shaun Phillips is at least not on a decline like Freeney

I was wondering.

You usually don't say stupid things. It makes more sense now.

[underrated29]

Oh don't get me wrong, if he gets a big sack I'll be happy & cheer. The dislike for him will not be swept aside so easily though.

I listened to him talk all that shit for all those years about the Chargers being better, watching him & Philip mocking our players on the field.

He could have 20 sacks for the Broncos next year, but I will still hate him & he can still go F himself.





Agreed. I am going to loathe finding myself cheering for someone I hate so much. I do not recall ever really having to do this before, so I am not sure what sort of inner turmoil I will be presented with. But I hate him. Hate him a lot. For the reasons you just said.

[BeefStew25]

I think he bones white chicks.

[broncohead]

Oh don't get me wrong, if he gets a big sack I'll be happy & cheer. The dislike for him will not be swept aside so easily though.

I listened to him talk all that shit for all those years about the Chargers being better, watching him & Philip mocking our players on the field.

He could have 20 sacks for the Broncos next year, but I will still hate him & he can still go F himself.

I'm sure it was just a psyche out tactic. I'm sure we will see him do this to other teams as well to get into their heads and he has always been a player to back his mouth up with his talk. I hated playing against him and even though he is on the backside of his career I love that he's on our team.

[TXBRONC]

I'm sure it was just a psyche out tactic. I'm sure we will see him do this to other teams as well to get into their heads and he has always been a player to back his mouth up with his talk. I hated playing against him and even though he is on the backside of his career I love that he's on our team.

It obviously worked on Chidoze. Hell Phillips did such a good job that he's still in Chidoze's head from four years ago.

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It obviously worked on Chidoze. Hell Phillips did such a good job that he's still in Chidoze's head from four years ago.
Lol!! As Broncohead implied, Phillips is going to be doing that to other teams now.
I fully expect him to promptly make even the Chargers hate him.

Think Romanowski. From the time Romo clocked a coach in the Broncos
locker room, I was glad the Broncos had him. They needed attitude, and he
helped to give them that. Result? Super Bowls.

Now we have Shaun. Clock a coach, Shaun.
.

[claymore]

I love the signing. Freeney can eat a bowl of ding dongs. I love how the overpriced FA's are getting screwed this year.

[TXBRONC]

Lol!! As Broncohead implied, Phillips is going to be doing that to other teams now.
I fully expect him to promptly make even the Chargers hate him.

Think Romanowski. From the time Romo clocked a coach in the Broncos
locker room, I was glad the Broncos had him. They needed attitude, and he
helped to give them that. Result? Super Bowls.

Now we have Shaun. Clock a coach, Shaun.
.

Yes Romo, the guy you love when he's on your team and despise when he plays for the opposition.

I expect that Phillips and Rivers will be jawing back and forth when we play them this year. It could end up being very entertaining.

[Lancane]

Lol!! As Broncohead implied, Phillips is going to be doing that to other teams now.
I fully expect him to promptly make even the Chargers hate him.

Think Romanowski. From the time Romo clocked a coach in the Broncos
locker room, I was glad the Broncos had him. They needed attitude, and he
helped to give them that. Result? Super Bowls.

Now we have Shaun. Clock a coach, Shaun.
.

Romo is still one of my all time favorite Broncos, so is Atwater and Alzado. Will be nice to see some of the oomph back in the locker room and on the field.

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Romo is still one of my all time favorite Broncos, so is Atwater and Alzado. Will be nice to see some of the oomph back in the locker room and on the field.
And Al Wilson . . .
.

[claymore]

Remember when Romo spit in JJ stokes face on MNF? I loved the mean attitude.

[claymore]

And Al Wilson . . .
.

His departure has been an underestimated reason for our decline.

[Jsteve01]

And Al Wilson . . .
.

His departure has been an underestimated reason for our decline.. You stole that premise from me clay. You bastage.

[Northman]

Remember when Romo spit in JJ stokes face on MNF? I loved the mean attitude.

I love how they tried to make it a race issue. Romo was an ******* to everyone. lol

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I love how they tried to make it a race issue. Romo was an ******* to everyone. lol
No doubt. No way anyone could call Romo a racist. He hated everyone the same.

The only colors he despised were the ones on the uniforms of the other team . . .
.

[NightTrainLayne]

When we picked up Romo, I liked the move even though I thought Romo classless up until that point. I immediately took a liking to Romo.

In this case, I don't have that feeling. Maybe Phillips will grow on me. Romo was in a different conference etc. If we would have played Romo twice a year before hand, I probably would have had a harder time liking him.

[Nomad]

I must of been living under a rock (or alzheimer is setting in:lol:)because I haven't a clue what Phillips did other than smack talk (from what I was told). I remember him being a solid football player.

[NightTrainLayne]

I must of been living under a rock (or alzheimer is setting in:lol:)because I haven't a clue what Phillips did other than smack talk (from what I was told). I remember him being a solid football player.

I disliked him for his terrible sack dances. But I love Vonn Miller's terrible sack dances, so I am investigating the possibility that I'm a hypocrite.

[Nomad]

I disliked him for his terrible sack dances. But I love Vonn Miller's terrible sack dances, so I am investigating the possibility that I'm a hypocrite.


Shawn Merriman got on my nerves, but i would have liked to have him as a BRONCO in his prime.

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I disliked him for his terrible sack dances. But I love Vonn Miller's terrible sack dances, so I am investigating the possibility that I'm a hypocrite.
I'll reserve judgment until I see how well you like Phillips' sack dances now. :laugh:



Shawn Merriman got on my nerves, but i would have liked to have him as a BRONCO in his prime.
Roids and all?
.

[Dapper Dan]

I'm hoping Denver gets AJ Johnson next year to replace Al Wilson.

[Lancane]

I'm hoping Denver gets AJ Johnson next year to replace Al Wilson.

I don't...sorry bro, but I am hoping that Irving lights it up and the need to replace Wilson is non-existent.

[Dapper Dan]

I don't...sorry bro, but I am hoping that Irving lights it up and the need to replace Wilson is non-existent.

That would be ideal, but I'm still a homer.

[Jsteve01]

I disliked him for his terrible sack dances. But I love Vonn Miller's terrible sack dances, so I am investigating the possibility that I'm a hypocrite.NTL acknowledging that you may be is the first step. Good for you.

[Dzone]

Will Nate Irving ever amount to anything? 3rd year coming up,

[Simple Jaded]

Romo's being a racist is why people thought Romo was a racist.

[TXBRONC]

If Fox and Elway thought they were hurting at the mike position I think they would have scouted it out more than they did. If I'm not mistaken I think someone mention Elway scouted very few linebackers.

[Northman]

Will Nate Irving ever amount to anything? 3rd year coming up,

Hard to say if he doesnt get a chance to show it on the field. But then again, maybe he isnt doing everything necessary to get on the field.

[TXBRONC]

Hard to say if he doesnt get a chance to show it on the field. But then again, maybe he isnt doing everything necessary to get on the field.

Can say for sure what Elway and Fox are thinking but by action/inaction they seem to be ok who they have compete for the mike position. They had multiple opportunities to draft a middle linebacker but didn't do it

[Northman]

Can say for sure what Elway and Fox are thinking but by action/inaction they seem to be ok who they have compete for the mike position. They had multiple opportunities to draft a middle linebacker but didn't do it

Yea, but that can just mean that they didnt like anyone too much or have the opportunity to get the guy they wanted. We all knew they wouldnt be able to fix everything in this draft but as you said it could also mean they are content with what they have at LB.

[TXBRONC]

Yea, but that can just mean that they didnt like anyone too much or have the opportunity to get the guy they wanted. We all knew they wouldnt be able to fix everything in this draft but as you said it could also mean they are content with what they have at LB.

True. IIRC though, Elway and his staff either didn't scout mikes at all or just a couple.

[NightTerror218]

Skov will be in draft next year if Irving does not work out. Now i am glad he went back for senior year.

[Chef Zambini]

This years team is reminding me more and more of our 1st(WINNING) SB team. We just signed a defensive player that helped kick our butts over the years and we even drafted a DT...ala Trevor Pryce. How about our new RB who grew up watching the Broncos and wanting to be like TD. I'm really excited.our first WINNING SB team.
we had 4 previous SB teams.

[Chidoze]

It obviously worked on Chidoze. Hell Phillips did such a good job that he's still in Chidoze's head from four years ago.
Lol, you have no idea TX.

I'm not sure I'd call it a psych out though, he just pissed me off. None of the other Chargers players really got under my skin like Shaun Phillips & Philip Rivers.

I dont even hate Merriman as much as those 2 guys. I hate them, with a passion.

I'm sure they are great guys off the field, do charity work, help kids, help old ladies in the cross-walk etc. but as football players, they can seriously kiss my orange & blue ass.

[smith49]

I disliked him for his terrible sack dances. But I love Vonn Miller's terrible sack dances, so I am investigating the possibility that I'm a hypocrite.


Shawn Merriman got on my nerves, but i would have liked to have him as a BRONCO in his prime.


Well to be fair he's not too far out if his prime. What is he 31 or so. Not ideal for PRIME, but not that old either. He's still got some good play in him I think.

[Chidoze]

I must of been living under a rock (or alzheimer is setting in:lol:)because I haven't a clue what Phillips did other than smack talk (from what I was told). I remember him being a solid football player.
I can recall a few incidents that stick out in my mind. The first was on Monday Night Football, Christmas eve of 2007, I believe. The Broncos had a 3 & out on offense, Cutler was getting ready to come off the field & Phillips was just jawing at him, then Rivers ran up was screaming bye baby bye baby while Phillips was waving & saying something else to Cutler.

Then on Monday Night Football, at San Diego week 6 or 7 in 2009, in the pregame warm ups, the Broncos came out of the tunnel & the whole Chargers team it seemed like was standing in that endzone waiting to go back into the locker rooms & Phillips, again, starts flapping his lips at Dumervil & someone else (I think it was Ayers maybe) & a small scuffle ensued then both sides were jawing back & forth. Then allegedly Phillips ran over to McDumbass & says F u we own your asses blah blah blah.

Over the years, living in southern California, I get to see the Chargers on TV every weekend. He's always talking when he's on the field, no matter what the score is. The ball carrier could have just gained 25 yards & ran Phillips over & he's up jawing in someones face like he just got a sack. For 2 guys that havent won anything of significance, Rivers & Phillips do an awful lot of shit talking like they are NFL legends.

[Canmore]

I can recall a few incidents that stick out in my mind. The first was on Monday Night Football, Christmas eve of 2007, I believe. The Broncos had a 3 & out on offense, Cutler was getting ready to come off the field & Phillips was just jawing at him, then Rivers ran up was screaming bye baby bye baby while Phillips was waving & saying something else to Cutler.

Then on Monday Night Football, at San Diego week 6 or 7 in 2009, in the pregame warm ups, the Broncos came out of the tunnel & the whole Chargers team it seemed like was standing in that endzone waiting to go back into the locker rooms & Phillips, again, starts flapping his lips at Dumervil & someone else (I think it was Ayers maybe) & a small scuffle ensued then both sides were jawing back & forth. Then allegedly Phillips ran over to McDumbass & says F u we own your asses blah blah blah.

Over the years, living in southern California, I get to see the Chargers on TV every weekend. He's always talking when he's on the field, no matter what the score is. The ball carrier could have just gained 25 yards & ran Phillips over & he's up jawing in someones face like he just got a sack. For 2 guys that havent won anything of significance, Rivers & Phillips do an awful lot of shit talking like they are NFL legends.

They are legends in their own minds!

[TXBRONC]

Lol, you have no idea TX.

I'm not sure I'd call it a psych out though, he just pissed me off. None of the other Chargers players really got under my skin like Shaun Phillips & Philip Rivers.

I dont even hate Merriman as much as those 2 guys. I hate them, with a passion.

I'm sure they are great guys off the field, do charity work, help kids, help old ladies in the cross-walk etc. but as football players, they can seriously kiss my orange & blue ass.

Dang you're entering Les Miserables territory.

Oh you may want to see doctor about the color of your ass that's not good.

[underrated29]

I don't mind rivers as much. Bt Phillips and cooper are the two dirt bags I really dislike. Especially Phillips.


I don't know who said it above but the time when they were coming out of the tunnel or whatever and Phillips was there running his mouth- I completely forgot about that. It's going to be so weird cheering for a guy I really hate.

I'd say the same would have been with Peyton but he was always funny and I disliked/hated him because he was so good and always torched us. Not because he was a Richard. As much as I hated manning in the99-2000 years I respected him. I never have respected Phillips.

[Army Bronco]

I just saw on NFL network that Dwight Freeney has lowered his asking price. I hope Denver is not considering him since we just signed Phillips but then again why not sign both and have em compete? Happened last year with Florence.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I can recall a few incidents that stick out in my mind. The first was on Monday Night Football, Christmas eve of 2007, I believe. The Broncos had a 3 & out on offense, Cutler was getting ready to come off the field & Phillips was just jawing at him, then Rivers ran up was screaming bye baby bye baby while Phillips was waving & saying something else to Cutler.

Then on Monday Night Football, at San Diego week 6 or 7 in 2009, in the pregame warm ups, the Broncos came out of the tunnel & the whole Chargers team it seemed like was standing in that endzone waiting to go back into the locker rooms & Phillips, again, starts flapping his lips at Dumervil & someone else (I think it was Ayers maybe) & a small scuffle ensued then both sides were jawing back & forth. Then allegedly Phillips ran over to McDumbass & says F u we own your asses blah blah blah.

Over the years, living in southern California, I get to see the Chargers on TV every weekend. He's always talking when he's on the field, no matter what the score is. The ball carrier could have just gained 25 yards & ran Phillips over & he's up jawing in someones face like he just got a sack. For 2 guys that havent won anything of significance, Rivers & Phillips do an awful lot of shit talking like they are NFL legends.

The McDaniel's incident and the incident in the end zone were two different incidents. The pre game incident was the first time the Broncos faced the Chargers with McDaniels. We actually won that game by about two TD's.

McDaniel was by himself in the tunnel when Phillips ran up to him. They talked a little smack back and forth, but it was harmless. We lost that game by about 4 TD's.

His smack talk might by annoying when he plays for the other team, but it's not nearly as bad as Winborn and Webster posing after making tackles 5 yards down the field while being part of one of the worst defenses historically in the NFL. :laugh:

[Ravage!!!]

His smack talk might by annoying when he plays for the other team, but it's not nearly as bad as Winborn and Webster posing after making tackles 5 yards down the field while being part of one of the worst defenses historically in the NFL. :laugh:

Man I absolutely HATED that b-boy CRAP after every tackle. It was stupid and soooo embarrassing for the Broncos.

[TXBRONC]

I just saw on NFL network that Dwight Freeney has lowered his asking price. I hope Denver is not considering him since we just signed Phillips but then again why not sign both and have em compete? Happened last year with Florence.

I think the roster is full with all the UDFA they're bring in .

[Simple Jaded]

Dump Mays and a RB and bring Freeney in, **** it!

[CoachChaz]

I like what Phillips brings to the defense. After thinking about it, I think he has a higher value to us than Freeney or Abraham would. He can slide into Miller's spot, or he can rush off the end. We can move the two of them around and create all kinds of match-up nightmares for offenses. Now, if we also added Freeney, we could add an additional element, but I'm prety excited to see what Del Rio comes up with having two versatile pass-rushing LB/DE's that can also play the run

[Ravage!!!]

I think the Broncos made up their mind with PHillips, and went that direction instead of dealing with the agent that represents Dum, Abraham, and Freeney. The agent and players felt they had the "Market cornered".. and the Broncos decided to step outside that box and get a guy that provides what we need for a year, a pass rushing specialist.

I don't think we are in the market for Freeney now.

[Simple Jaded]

Man I absolutely HATED that b-boy CRAP after every tackle. It was stupid and soooo embarrassing for the Broncos.

Winborn was the biggest jackoff to play for Denver in the 2000's, a below average player on a pathetic Defense yet he had the never ending false bravado.

[Lancane]

I like what Phillips brings to the defense. After thinking about it, I think he has a higher value to us than Freeney or Abraham would. He can slide into Miller's spot, or he can rush off the end. We can move the two of them around and create all kinds of match-up nightmares for offenses. Now, if we also added Freeney, we could add an additional element, but I'm prety excited to see what Del Rio comes up with having two versatile pass-rushing LB/DE's that can also play the run

Fully agree with you Coach, I like the addition of Phillips, especially over the likes of Freeney. I just hope there is an option clause for Denver, it would really suck if Phillips has a great season and then to watch the Broncos lose their best pass rushing defensive end in back to back off-seasons. As for Del Rio, this defense looks improved on paper, but he has a lot more talent with Knighton, Williams and Phillips then he did last year with Dumervil and Bannan. I'm psyched to see what different looks and pass rushing packages he can put together for them. Wolfe should improve, and hopefully Beal can challenge for some playing time being that he is a better pass rusher then either Jackson or Ayers, I'd like to see Jackson step it up as well and separate himself from Ayers, the two are far too much alike in their strengths and playing style.

[aulaza]

To me, this is a great bit of GMing from JFE once again. Getting Phillips for 1yr/$1M plus sack incentives is genius, considering what Freeney and Abraham were looking for. Phillips is more versatile too, and can maybe even play SAM and free up Von sometimes if they want just to change it up. Looking forward to Phillips, Wolfe, Williams and Miller rushing on third down.

I was thinking is it possible they run a hybrid with an element of 3-4 stuff? Knighton at Nose, Williams and Wolfe DE, with Phillips as the extra LB? I know we are still a 4-3 and I like our scheme as is, but just a thought I had given our personnel.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

I hope Phillips makes the full $2.2 million this year. :D

[TXBRONC]

Didn't someone say that Freeney decided rejoin he real world and lower his asking price?

[Simple Jaded]

Didn't someone say that Freeney decided rejoin he real world and lower his asking price?

Apparently he wants Osi money now, I think he got $8.5 mil for two years. I'd do that deal even with Phillips.

Broncos may have had enough of his agent tho.

[TXBRONC]

Apparently he wants Osi money now, I think he got $8.5 mil for two years. I'd do that deal even with Phillips.

Broncos may have had enough of his agent tho.

If they're not wiling to pay Phillips that kind of money I don't think Freeney would get that kind of cash out of the Broncos.

[Chidoze]

The McDaniel's incident and the incident in the end zone were two different incidents. The pre game incident was the first time the Broncos faced the Chargers with McDaniels. We actually won that game by about two TD's.

McDaniel was by himself in the tunnel when Phillips ran up to him. They talked a little smack back and forth, but it was harmless. We lost that game by about 4 TD's.

His smack talk might by annoying when he plays for the other team, but it's not nearly as bad as Winborn and Webster posing after making tackles 5 yards down the field while being part of one of the worst defenses historically in the NFL. :laugh:
Man, I was having a good day, then you had to go & dredge up Winborn & Webster :lol:

[dogfish]

Man, I was having a good day, then you had to go & dredge up Winborn & Webster :lol:

Signed,

- Dreadnaught

[Dzone]

Not sure why some think that there is no way Phillips will be as good or better than Dumervil

[TXBRONC]

Not sure why some think that there is no way Phillips will be as good or better than Dumervil

Who has said that? I think it's possible could be as productive as Dumervil but more productive I doubt it. If we have assumed correctly that he will play at RDE that means:

1.) He'll be going up against an opponents best tackle a majority of the time.
2.) He'll be playing as defensive end rather than as linebacker.

So there is a learning curve for him to overcome.

IIRC you've been very critical of Dumervil so maybe part of view is colored by that as well he'll being playing on the opposite side of Miller. Miller is a superstar and makes the players around him better but he can't teach an old dog how to play a new position.

[aulaza]

I think we will just have to wait and see.

I'm not sure that there will be much of a problem in terms of a position change. He won't be a base 4-3 RDE. He'll only come into that position to rush the passer, so my guess would be that he could do that standing up if he wanted? If we see him on the field earlier I would epect it to be at LB. Maybe others see this going differently, but that would be what I expect.

As for playing opposite Von, I think we should acknowledge that this is something he didn't have in SD. I would expect his production to increase coming to Denver given the players around him (especially Miller). He likely won't be given as much attention by opposing Offenses.

I feel pretty good about how he'll do. But as I said only time will tell.

[CoachChaz]

Who has said that? I think it's possible could be as productive as Dumervil but more productive I doubt it. If we have assumed correctly that he will play at RDE that means:

1.) He'll be going up against an opponents best tackle a majority of the time.
2.) He'll be playing as defensive end rather than as linebacker.

So there is a learning curve for him to overcome.

IIRC you've been very critical of Dumervil so maybe part of view is colored by that as well he'll being playing on the opposite side of Miller. Miller is superstar and makes the players around him better but he can't teach an old dog how to play a new position.


IIRC you've

I dont think it's that simple. Yes, he will be facing the opposing LT a lot, but I think this creates quite a bit fo versatility to move him and Miller around quite a bit. Think of the days when you never knew where Meck was going to be lined up on any given play. I think we now have 2 players that can fit that role and be moved around quite a bot to create match-up problems. Add in the versatility of Wolfe to be inside or outside and opposing OC's have some things to think about.

[TXBRONC]

I dont think it's that simple. Yes, he will be facing the opposing LT a lot, but I think this creates quite a bit fo versatility to move him and Miller around quite a bit. Think of the days when you never knew where Meck was going to be lined up on any given play. I think we now have 2 players that can fit that role and be moved around quite a bot to create match-up problems. Add in the versatility of Wolfe to be inside or outside and opposing OC's have some things to think about.

That is a good point. Miller and Dumervil move a little bit. There were times they switched sides and they even had Dumervil in a point stance every so often but now they might be able to do more of that with Phillips in tow.

[Dapper Dan]

"@ShaunPhillips95: Happy birthday to the most amazing person I know. Myself."

[TXBRONC]

"@ShaunPhillips95: Happy birthday to the most amazing person I know. Myself."

It seems self-absorbed to me but if we get out of him what we need I can live with it not that I have a choice.

[SR]

It seems self-absorbed to me but if we get out of him what need I can live with it not that I have a choice.

This might be a tough reach for some, but it's quite possible he has a sense of...how you say...humor?

[TXBRONC]

This might be a tough reach for some, but it's quite possible he has a sense of...how you say...humor?

Sure that's possible. Either way the most important thing is that he plays well.

[Simple Jaded]

"@ShaunPhillips95: Happy birthday to the most amazing person I know. Myself."

I've got sunshine on a cloudy day.
When it's cold outside I've got the month of May.
I guess you'd say
What can make me feel this way?
Myself (myself, myself)
Talkin' 'bout myself (myself).