2013 Denver Broncos NFL Draft Day thread

[Tebowtime2011]

No way we sign freeney unless his demands go down. They must have alot of faith in robert ayers.

[Rick]

Who's grades are we talking about? Mel's?

I don't think GM's pay much attention to what Mel and the rest of ESPN think.

I am not saying this kid will be good...since I know nothing about him but there are plenty of guys Mel graded high that got passed over by a lot of teams. He has Barkley rated as best of the rest for the entire 3rd round I think, but apparently GM's don't agree.

Apparently Webster is rated decent by Elway and co, time will tell if they are right.

[ForgettingBrandonMarshall]

No way we sign freeney unless his demands go down. They must have alot of faith in robert ayers.

No, we will sign a FA pass rusher . . . and we will overpay.

[MOtorboat]

Who's grades are we talking about? Mel's?

I don't think GM's pay much attention to what Mel and the rest of ESPN think.

I am not saying this kid will be good...since I know nothing about him but there are plenty of guys Mel graded high that got passed over by a lot of teams. He has Barkley rated as best of the rest for the entire 3rd round I think, but apparently GM's don't agree.

Apparently Webster is rated decent by Elway and co, time will tell if they are right.

Lancane is using Mayock's.

[Lancane]

We got Doom in the 4th. Just sayin

Granted, we got Doom in the fourth round. But what is bothering me Coach is the rarity of such success and or the time frame to develop into a player good enough to be as effective, in most cases.

[ForgettingBrandonMarshall]

I just want to draft a pass rusher for contract negotiations at this point. If we don't get anyone in the draft, Freeney/Abraham/etc. will see that it is still a glaring need and use that as leverage.

[Lancane]

Lancane is using Mayock's.

I use Mayock's, the NFL Scouts (combined) and CBSNDS...I try not to use Mel 'Hair Helmet' Kiper's grades.

[MOtorboat]

I prefer Scouts, Inc., which is McShay. I don't think Kiper has ever put his actual grades out there.

[CrazyHorse]

Still want a pass rushing end, a middle line-backer, as well as a safety.

[Lancane]

I prefer Scouts, Inc., which is McShay. I don't think Kiper has ever put his actual grades out there.

He does, just I don't pay attention to them. I am not a fan of McShay either...he's another Kiper IMHO.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Last night, the analysts on ESPN said that every team will rate a player different, based on the systems they run, how the player would fit in their system, etc.

[topscribe]

I just want to draft a pass rusher for contract negotiations at this point. If we don't get anyone in the draft, Freeney/Abraham/etc. will see that it is still a glaring need and use that as leverage.
I really don't see that. The teams who need pass rushers are getting them.
At least, they think so. But, as you displayed, there are multiple names out
there who don't have jobs. They can be used against each other for leverage,
if it comes down to that, I would think.
.

[Nomad]

Tyrann and Patrick back together again. I hope Honey Badger straightens up....he's a damn good ball player.

[ForgettingBrandonMarshall]

I predict we go Simon/Okafor in the 4th (this is probably wishful thinking), the Miami (OH) QB in the 5th or 7th, and then some plug in special teamer with the other pick.

[underrated29]

Welp, guys I'd still like to see us take.

Simon
Barrett jones
Kev reddik
Mike muati
Duke Williams
Tyler dysert

[Poet]

We got Doom in the 4th. Just sayin

Geno Atkins also hails from the fourth round.

[Nomad]

Did Swope get drafted today?

I guess we'll find out if Teo is all that playing him twice a year.

[rationalfan]

This stuff is hilarious, turning on elway over a 3rd round pick.

Hey, I'm all for criticizing the establishment, but so much of this reads like "it's a bad pick because its not what I would have done."

[Jsteve01]

This stuff is hilarious, turning on elway over a 3rd round pick.

Hey, I'm all for criticizing the establishment, but so much of this reads like "it's a bad pick because its not what I would have done."

rf the criticism here is legitimate. We are pretty deep at DB, so I get it if you decide you like someone who's got a good grade and has fallen, but there literally is no one that I've found who had this guy as a day two pick. Maybe they like him in the old Sam Brandon role in the big nickel, but let's be honest, he's not that big, and a 3rd is too high to use on a utility player when we still have a glaring hole at RDE. I love Elway and am on board with the first two picks but this one raises eyebrows for good reason.

[Davii]

I'm ecstatic with the Ball pick. I don't see what anyone has to complain about. Kayvon obviously impressed Elway, Fox, and Del Rio. Let's not forget that John Lynch also served as an advisor in the DB scouting so maybe he had something to do with it. He's got decent measurables and runs a 4.4 40. I can see him giving us a lot of production, he also returned kicks, and becoming one of our starting corners at some point.

Bottom line, we wanted a CB at some point and we got one. I trust the FO to scout the right one.

[Nick]

I am fine with them getting Webster. I remember seeing an article about him from someone thinkning we were going to grab in 3rd round and how he was one of the guys we interviewed.

Might have been this one: http://www.milehighreport.com/2013/2/4/3951916/2013-nfl-draft-prospects-kayvon-webster-scouting-report

Man Broncos are getting a lot of hard workers. These are people that all progressed through dedication and alot of hard work. I like this draft and I do not know much about him but things I do know is he was a "No body" That earned a spot to start in his final season and excelled. That team I don't think had much of a pass rush... I know they were pretty bad. From what I hear is he is very aggressive and does not quit. Saw very few games this year from them.

As far as reaching. We are selecting BPA in NEED areas in this draft. I feel very very comfortable about these selections and reasoning. His increase in production from 1 year to next says a different story... Plus.. It would take a lot of film to select this kids with team was playing with and them running zone etc. I think Broncos felt they had a sleeper and also felt like if not selected he would not be there at there next selection.

As far as prospect rankings... Will Davis that was drafted afterwards can not be ranked much better or has to be a lot worse then Webster.

Man, He might be the shortest person with longest arms. lol Thas is just cool.

Walterfootball, CBS, FFtoolbox doesn’t have him listed, and other ones have no info... ESPN atleast has his statistics... These sites don't have shit on this kid... I need to read USF forum posts and local papers right now.

Attention to all you Armchair GM's. If you knew how to evaluate and select players for an NFL team, you'd be evaluating and selecting players for an NFL team. Elway and Fox have made a lot of moves in the past 2+ seasons and the pros outweigh the cons.

In his videos (seen about 30, shows a lot of intensity and don't see him ever picking daisy's or sleeping on a play. Why he was able to get start in senior year... I'm sure) Then again, I see this kids speed and tackle ability and see why he looks up to champ. He might be a beast at safety? Has all the tools... He is like a twice as fast matt elam... http://mockdraftable.com/players/2013/ surprisingly both 5'10 with freaky length of arms, which again is awesome!

Looks like we have a lot hard workers willing to put in 100 percent. I like that a lot better then taking risk on character issues reflecting the Broncos organization. Mile High salute to the first two days of draft. Not flashy but looks like Broncos did a lot of homework.

Also deja vu looking at Web's twitter https://twitter.com/_KAY6 and sly's very thankful for everything every day and understand life is what you make it. Very high with motivation and determination.

We all know Ball is a work horse and with many people familiar with him... Don't need to explain... Glad it was not Lacy.

[Ziggy]

The Broncos need more depth at corner. 2 of the top 3 are free agents next season and the other one will be 36 when next season begins.

[Rick]

While I personally believe that a pass rush specialist DE was the most important position we needed I would disagree that CB is not a need.

We don't know what is going to happen after this year with DRC, Champ isn't getting any younger, Carter is sound but probably not more than a dime CB, we have no idea yet what Bolden is.

[NightTerror218]

I am hoping for Gholston in 4th tomorrow, I think he could be a good pass rush specialist

[Jsteve01]

but again Rick, which is a greater need? I say DE

[Northman]

I really wanted an edge rusher (Damontre Moore) and I think Lacy is the best halfback, but I'm okay with Ball too.

Agreed. But like the Williams pick at least they addressed a need.

[Davii]

but again Rick, which is a greater need? I say DE

All depends, what if there's a DE we like in the fourth or fifth? What if Wolfe loses a little weight and moves outside? What if we sign Freeney?

You can't evaluate in a vacuum, there are too many other variables. Time will tell.

[NightTerror218]

Okafor and Jessie Williams still available. Trade up elway. Lol

[Rick]

Hard to say. Personally, I would say DE.

They have better scouting though, they may value a lot of remaining DEs as similar in situational pass rush skill and if considering Webster as a nickel, maybe they think of him as the best nickel back.

This is purely speculation as I don't know their grades on the players, or if they are even thinking of Webster as a nickel, but it could weigh into it.

Be nice to hear John's explanations of the pick in his conference, if he explains it at all.

[Ziggy]

Hard to say. Personally, I would say DE.

They have better scouting though, they may value a lot of remaining DEs as similar in situational pass rush skill and if considering Webster as a nickel, maybe they think of him as the best nickel back.

This is purely speculation as I don't know their grades on the players, or if they are even thinking of Webster as a nickel, but it could weigh into it.

Be nice to hear John's explanations of the pick in his conference, if he explains it at all.

Fox tries:
Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver 1h
Fox: Had "trade options" in the third round. Wasn't expecting Kayvon Webster to be there. Elway says "he's tough" & will provide run support

[Northman]

Wanted a back. Hope Ball works out--this is the sort of pick if done in a previous regime I'd be outraged...

Hopefully the Broncos talent evaluators are on the money. Lacy would have seemed the better fit.

Yea. Definitely would of preferred Lacy or at the very least taken the boy from South Carolina later. But, Ball was good at Wisconsin so not much to complain about. Again, they addressed the RB position so at least i feel better about the depth there.

[Ziggy]

Elway said that it was close between Lacy and Ball but in the end it was Ball because of medical.

[NightTerror218]

Elway said that it was close between Lacy and Ball but in the end it was Ball because of medical.

Makes sense with bronco RB corps

[Lancane]

I don't mind the pick of Webster, just the spot of where they took him. But according to several people I guess Belichick was big on Webster so Denver wanted to grab him up before the Patriots could take him with the 91st Pick which was right after their own or the 102nd which is the fifth pick in the fourth round.

[sneakers]

I have a new picture for gameday threads this season:

http://i.imgur.com/DVYGrv5.jpg

[topscribe]

Lol, I just noticed that the video on the official site (http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Highlights-Sylvester-Williams/10f261ed-120b-478d-a444-205acb9888cb) shows Sly Williams trucking Montee Ball.
.

[aberdien]

Diggin the draft so far. Especially Ball. Would've preferred a safety to a corner, but whatevs. Still wanna pick up a safety or DE.

[Poet]

MonteeBALLSOHARD!

I love being a terrible poster. I've mastered it.

[aberdien]

MonteeBALLSOHARD!

I love being a terrible poster. I've mastered it.

You mastered it a while back.

[Dapper Dan]

I assume one of our RBs will have to go.

[Davii]

I assume one of our RBs will have to go.

We probably shuffle our Balls. :lol:

Seriously, Lance probably won't make the team. I know people get down on Knowshon, but he's better than Ball. Hillman is still our change of pace guy and only second year. I doubt Ball improves enough to keep him around. I don't think we'll carry a FB either, no point if we're always in 3 wide.

We'll see how Willis does coming back, he might be getting too many miles. We shall see but I think Ball, Lance is definitely gone.

[Dapper Dan]

Kinda what I was thinking. I think it would be wise to stick with 4 RBs. 5 would be too many. I wonder if Lance bumps down to the practice squad though.

[Dzone]

Hillman sucking against baltimore made this pick of Montee Ball even more critical. Of course, Hillman got no blocking in that game, but he also showed no ability to run hard when given the ball.

[Dapper Dan]

Hillman sucking against baltimore made this pick of Montee Ball even more critical. Of course, Hillman got no blocking in that game, but he also showed no ability to run hard when given the ball.

I think Ball and Hillman will be a good 1-2 punch for a while.

[Dapper Dan]

I know I asked it, but it's been 30 pages ago.

How many times has Montee Ball been hurt? I hear about durability concerns.Is there any proof to that other than running the ball a lot? It's not like anyone drafts a RB looking for a strong 10 year career.

[aberdien]

I don't think he's been injured that much. He got a concussion when he got jumped by a bunch of thugs his senior year but other than that he sounds clear.

[sneakers]

I don't think he's been injured that much. He got a concussion when he got jumped by a bunch of thugs his senior year but other than that he sounds clear.

That's the weird thing, they weren't thugs...they were students all with around a 3.8 GPA

[Jaws]

*waves from across the pond* :wave:
It's 1.30AM ... but BBC radio are broadcasting the first round of the draft live on one of their digital stations.
There's increased UK interest in the NFL draft this year as one of the possible picks is Menelik Watson (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/apr/25/menelik-watson-nfl-draft-2013), from Manchester, England ...

How could Watson go to the Raiders. Never trust an Englishman ;)

[Dapper Dan]

That's the weird thing, they weren't thugs...they were students all with around a 3.8 GPA

Regardless, my point is about peoples concerns with Montee Ball's health.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

Regardless, my point is about peoples concerns with Montee Ball's health.

Missed all of ZERO games in 2011 and 2012. In 2010, he had a 4 game stretch of 2 carries, 3 carries, DNP and 3 carries. Although he did avg 6 ypc and had a TD in the last one on the list. 2009 is hard to tell. No stats early and then not many carries til mid season...but he was also a frosh with Clay there.

Also...they didn't even "kid glove" him after the assault. Had 32, 15 and 37 carries in his first 3 games last year.

Anyone citing injury concerns/history is just trying to be difficult. Much like his ability to catch the ball His catch #s weren't great in 2012, but he had a bunch in 2011.

[Dapper Dan]

Missed all of ZERO games in 2011 and 2012. In 2010, he had a 4 game stretch of 2 carries, 3 carries, DNP and 3 carries. Although he did avg 6 ypc and had a TD in the last one on the list. 2009 is hard to tell. No stats early and then not many carries til mid season...but he was also a frosh with Clay there.

Also...they didn't even "kid glove" him after the assault. Had 32, 15 and 37 carries in his first 3 games last year.

Anyone citing injury concerns/history is just trying to be difficult. Much like his ability to catch the ball His catch #s weren't great in 2012, but he had a bunch in 2011.

I think it's mostly the "mileage" card. Which, IMO, means they think he'll get injured. I don't think it's as big of a concern as people are saying.

According to his carries, he has about a season's worth more than a lot of the other backs in this draft. Backs who came out after their junior year usually. And he only about about 100 more carries than Stepfan Taylor, who (including me) a lot of people like. There's no mileage question on him. I don't know. I think it's just something to complain about.

[SmilinAssasSin27]

Agreed...but I like to save the injury concerns for someone who has actually BEEN injured.

[Dapper Dan]

Agreed...but I like to save the injury concerns for someone who has actually BEEN injured.

But, Ass, if someone has ran it 900 or so times, it means he's about to get hurt. :lol:

[SmilinAssasSin27]

True. True. Knowhson must have run it a BUNCH in High School then.

[Slick]

This stuff is hilarious, turning on elway over a 3rd round pick.

Hey, I'm all for criticizing the establishment, but so much of this reads like "it's a bad pick because its not what I would have done."

This year the complaining is almost non existent. In years past we would have 30 additional threads, outside of the draft thread, of people losIng their minds over who was or wasn't drafted. I was surprised about the corner being picked. I thought it was going to be a DE.

I love the first two picks. Guys who will play this year.

[Lancane]

This year the complaining is almost non existent. In years past we would have 30 additional threads, outside of the draft thread, of people losIng their minds over who was or wasn't drafted. I was surprised about the corner being picked. I thought it was going to be a DE.

I love the first two picks. Guys who will play this year.

Actually, there has been a fair share of complaining...with Williams a little less then the rest, but the Ball pick had a good number of people questioning the pick - some because Lacy was still available or because they liked Michael or Taylor, or felt it was not such a need. Personally I was pretty content with the first two picks, reminded me of their draft two years ago when they got Von Miller and then Rahim Moore. It's the third round pick that has me scratching my head, and I'll admit that I've been complaining about it (because the value makes no sense) not against the kid as some did with Osweiler last year or Ball this year with some posters.

I see Ball starting this year, but Williams might not be a starter from day one...he'll be a part of the rotational system and will still make an impact. Now Webster, as I stated in another thread, according to Andrew Mason - the Broncos think he'll compete with Carter for that fourth roster spot.

[Slick]

You didn't start a thread and type in all caps, Lancane. That's what I meant. The complaining has been mild as opposed to previous regimes.

[Dapper Dan]

MonteeBALLSOHARD!

I love being a terrible poster. I've mastered it.

So I ball so hard motha****as wanna fine me
but first niggas gotta find me

[Poet]

You too....we are now friends.

[underrated29]

I'm a HAMballgler.
Say wuuuut!

[rationalfan]

This stuff is hilarious, turning on elway over a 3rd round pick.

Hey, I'm all for criticizing the establishment, but so much of this reads like "it's a bad pick because its not what I would have done."

rf the criticism here is legitimate. We are pretty deep at DB, so I get it if you decide you like someone who's got a good grade and has fallen, but there literally is no one that I've found who had this guy as a day two pick. Maybe they like him in the old Sam Brandon role in the big nickel, but let's be honest, he's not that big, and a 3rd is too high to use on a utility player when we still have a glaring hole at RDE. I love Elway and am on board with the first two picks but this one raises eyebrows for good reason.

You're not wrong, that's for sure. I just think the tact of some of these posts is interesting. It's one thing to disagree, another to claim ineptitude because of a difference of opinion or strategy.

As somebody wrote in today's Denver post, some of the complaining just feels like wannabe GMs bitter their visions weren't fulfilled.

But, admittedly, I'm no draftnik, just a broncos fan.

[Ziggy]

It happens every year. Denver didn't take the guys that I would have taken, but I know that this front office is far more qualified than I am to make these picks. People spend a month or two pimping the players they really love and when the Broncos don't take them, they get offended. It's quite comical really. I was humbled in the 89 draft when I watched the Broncos pass on the top rated safety in the draft for some guy that was rated in the 3rd round. I got mad, Denver got a cornerstone defensive player. Atwater is still one of my favorite all time Broncos. Louis Oliver ended up having much shorter, less productive career.

Every since then, as much as I love the players I've scouted and predicted the Broncos to take, I instantly become a fan of the player they actually do take. Some folks can find the dark cloud in every silver lining though.

[Lancane]

You're not wrong, that's for sure. I just think the tact of some of these posts is interesting. It's one thing to disagree, another to claim ineptitude because of a difference of opinion or strategy.

As somebody wrote in today's Denver post, some of the complaining just feels like wannabe GMs bitter their visions weren't fulfilled.

But, admittedly, I'm no draftnik, just a broncos fan.

As somebody wrote not long ago in Pro Football Weekly - "You have to prove yourself as a coach, as a player, as a coordinator or as a general manager, you have to prove yourself to the fans, the organization, the locker room and your peers, nothing is given and there are no free rides simply because of your name or pedigree."

[Ziggy]

As somebody wrote not long ago in Pro Football Weekly - "You have to prove yourself as a coach, as a player, as a coordinator or as a general manager, you have to prove yourself to the fans, the organization, the locker room and your peers, nothing is given and there are no free rides simply because of your name or pedigree."

All but 1 of players picked in our last 2 drafts are on the roster. Show me another GM with that kind of a track record Lan. If there is any, they are few and far between.

[Ziggy]

I still think we can get a starter today if the Broncos can swoop up Schwenke, Jones, Williams, or one of the MLB'ers out there.

[Ravage!!!]

As somebody wrote not long ago in Pro Football Weekly - "You have to prove yourself as a coach, as a player, as a coordinator or as a general manager, you have to prove yourself to the fans, the organization, the locker room and your peers, nothing is given and there are no free rides simply because of your name or pedigree."

Yeah... but it is funny that the ones that feel themselves "worthy" of the criticisms are sitting at home doing insurance, and don't really have to worry about making bad calls or bad picks in their mocks. So although the fans are the ones that want to gripe, bitch and complain, they have the 100% benefit of only judging on the past...after having the benefit of hindsight.

You'll hear a lot of "I told you so's"..."I never liked that pick"... and "this is the guy I wanted." EASY PEASY to ignore all the bad picks they wanted when people aren't holding them accountable.

Personally, I don't care about what some magazine feels a player "should" be taken at or what their grade is. We didn't give away picks to move up for a guy, and took the player that we felt was the best (at the position they felt of need) on the board compared to others.

I'll admit, I didn't see DB as being a need until later. But then, why later? I have always said that you can't have too many DBs on a roster, and felt we would take one later. But why would one later be better than sooner if a player is there that they wanted?

[aberdien]

Missed all of ZERO games in 2011 and 2012. In 2010, he had a 4 game stretch of 2 carries, 3 carries, DNP and 3 carries. Although he did avg 6 ypc and had a TD in the last one on the list. 2009 is hard to tell. No stats early and then not many carries til mid season...but he was also a frosh with Clay there.

Also...they didn't even "kid glove" him after the assault. Had 32, 15 and 37 carries in his first 3 games last year.

Anyone citing injury concerns/history is just trying to be difficult. Much like his ability to catch the ball His catch #s weren't great in 2012, but he had a bunch in 2011.
And even so, his team was much less good in 2012. And he didn't have Russell Wilson. With a solid offensive line and Peyton Manning I reckon he'll do just fine.

I think it's mostly the "mileage" card. Which, IMO, means they think he'll get injured. I don't think it's as big of a concern as people are saying.

According to his carries, he has about a season's worth more than a lot of the other backs in this draft. Backs who came out after their junior year usually. And he only about about 100 more carries than Stepfan Taylor, who (including me) a lot of people like. There's no mileage question on him. I don't know. I think it's just something to complain about.
LT had more carries than Ball coming out of college. It's just a nitpicky thing. I mean, he has carried a shit ton of times which does wear a person down, but i'm not going to concern myself with that until a few years down the road.

[Ravage!!!]

I still think we can get a starter today if the Broncos can swoop up Schwenke, Jones, Williams, or one of the MLB'ers out there.

I think they might be happier with Irvin, Trevathan, and Mays than we realize.

[Ziggy]

I think they might be happier with Irvin, Trevathan, and Mays than we realize.

I'm not giving up on Irving either, but Mays will be long gone by the time training camp starts.

[Poet]

Is the cap hit to cut Mays not that bad?

[aberdien]

Some dude on NFLN just said the Broncos were looking to trade Mays. So i'd expect a LB here pretty quick.

[Slick]

I read on the Mane that Mays is on the trading block.

[Ziggy]

LT had more carries than Ball coming out of college. It's just a nitpicky thing. I mean, he has carried a shit ton of times which does wear a person down, but i'm not going to concern myself with that until a few years down the road.

Along with leading the NFL in touches 3 of his 11 year career.

[Ziggy]

Who in their right mind would trade for Joe Mays? He's hurt, overpaid, and has zero instincts. They must be talking to Jerry Jones.

[Ravage!!!]

I'm not giving up on Irving either, but Mays will be long gone by the time training camp starts.

Yeah.. I agree. I heard that he's on the trading block, as is, so you are most probably right. I truly believe that MLB is a major need, however, I've caught myself forgetting that Irvin hasn't really had the opportunity. I'm sure the coaches know more about his skill set than I do. It's one of those "out of sight out of mind" scenarios. It might be that MLB isn't as big of a need as I imagine it to be.

[Ziggy]

Eagles trade up to start the 4th round.

[Ziggy]

There goes Barkley.

[aberdien]

lol eagles

[underrated29]

Who in their right mind would trade for Joe Mays? He's hurt, overpaid, and has zero instincts. They must be talking to Jerry Jones.



He's a freaking beast though on ST. Lets not forget that. That is where his skills are and they are very good. Remember in two different games he knocked out tony meoiki from the chiefs in ST. And he was always one of the best gunners/ tacklers on ST.....we got him for a 4th, maybe we could get another one in return for him.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis

Don't sleep on 4th round. Bronco 4th-rd picks: Brandon Marshall, Elvis Dumervil, Quinton Carter, Ben Hamilton, David Bruton, Olandis Gary.

Broncos weren't taking LB Andre Brown at No. 58, BTW. Liked him, but RB-CB were far greater needs.

John Fox on concerns Montee Ball had 663 carries last 2 college yrs: "I don't think it's wear and tear, it looks like he can handle workload

John Elway on deciding between Montee Ball/Eddie Lacy: "It was a close call. Bottom line we looked at the medical.''

Broncos also considered DE Damonte Moore in second. Ultimately went Ball because there was a drop-off of "big'' backs after Ball-Lacy

CB Jamar Taylor or RB Le'Veon Bell had they been their at No. 58. But then it came down to CB Blidi Wreh-Wilson and RB Montee Ball.

The way the Broncos figured Day 2 of the draft: They thought there were more good corners than RBs. They might have taken CB Darius Sly,

[Ziggy]

There should be a big run on QB's now.

[Poet]

Both Geno and Barkley are fortunate. Not being a first round pick does alleviate some of the pressure from them. Of course they're probably down right now, which I understand. But in the long-term, I think this has helped their careers. Geno is in New York, on a team that cannot develop offensive talent at all, so he may still be screwed.

I will probably root for both of the guys.

[Ziggy]

He's a freaking beast though on ST. Lets not forget that. That is where his skills are and they are very good. Remember in two different games he knocked out tony meoiki from the chiefs in ST. And he was always one of the best gunners/ tacklers on ST.....we got him for a 4th, maybe we could get another one in return for him.

You're going to pay a special teams player 4 million/year? If the Broncos get a 7th for him they've fleeced someone.

[underrated29]

Oh I forgot the ridiculous salary we gave him.....damn

[Northman]

Actually, there has been a fair share of complaining...with Williams a little less then the rest, but the Ball pick had a good number of people questioning the pick - some because Lacy was still available or because they liked Michael or Taylor, or felt it was not such a need. Personally I was pretty content with the first two picks, reminded me of their draft two years ago when they got Von Miller and then Rahim Moore. It's the third round pick that has me scratching my head, and I'll admit that I've been complaining about it (because the value makes no sense) not against the kid as some did with Osweiler last year or Ball this year with some posters.

I see Ball starting this year, but Williams might not be a starter from day one...he'll be a part of the rotational system and will still make an impact. Now Webster, as I stated in another thread, according to Andrew Mason - the Broncos think he'll compete with Carter for that fourth roster spot.

Not every player that is drafted will be a starter Lan, you should know this.

[Ziggy]

I think Sylvester Williams starts at UT early. As much as I love big Vick, he's not near the pass rusher that Williams is.

[Lancane]

Yeah... but it is funny that the ones that feel themselves "worthy" of the criticisms are sitting at home doing insurance, and don't really have to worry about making bad calls or bad picks in their mocks. So although the fans are the ones that want to gripe, bitch and complain, they have the 100% benefit of only judging on the past...after having the benefit of hindsight.

You'll hear a lot of "I told you so's"..."I never liked that pick"... and "this is the guy I wanted." EASY PEASY to ignore all the bad picks they wanted when people aren't holding them accountable.

Personally, I don't care about what some magazine feels a player "should" be taken at or what their grade is. We didn't give away picks to move up for a guy, and took the player that we felt was the best (at the position they felt of need) on the board compared to others.

I'll admit, I didn't see DB as being a need until later. But then, why later? I have always said that you can't have too many DBs on a roster, and felt we would take one later. But why would one later be better than sooner if a player is there that they wanted?

True...

And I've been a pretty stout supporter of this regime in regards to their moves, even if I haven't fully agreed with a pick or addition here and there. The only gripe I really have is that Elway as VP and handling the GM duties needs to separate himself from those of the past in such roles, such as Shanahan, Xanders and McDaniels. Who've all in their own way left a bad taste in the mouth of fans. So, I think at times we're more critical each new regime and in a way Elway is getting a pass because A) the success he's had on the field, B) the additions of Manning and Miller, C) his history and namesake with the fans. However, I am critical and I will admit as much, because I know I am...there is no disputing it.

As for K. Webster, it's not a bad pick...it's not a great pick...there was no value in the pick, so yeah, I bitched and griped about it, just because it really goes against the grain for either drafting philosophy. Could he be a Pro Bowler or an All Pro, I don't know, I don't think any of us do. So at this point it's all wait and see, it can not be changed, so I know I simply have to deal with it whether I like it or not, same for everyone else.

[Northman]

It happens every year. Denver didn't take the guys that I would have taken, but I know that this front office is far more qualified than I am to make these picks. People spend a month or two pimping the players they really love and when the Broncos don't take them, they get offended. It's quite comical really. I was humbled in the 89 draft when I watched the Broncos pass on the top rated safety in the draft for some guy that was rated in the 3rd round. I got mad, Denver got a cornerstone defensive player. Atwater is still one of my favorite all time Broncos. Louis Oliver ended up having much shorter, less productive career.

Every since then, as much as I love the players I've scouted and predicted the Broncos to take, I instantly become a fan of the player they actually do take. Some folks can find the dark cloud in every silver lining though.


I dont think thats real a fair assessment man. Yes, people like certain players and some dont like certain players but thats just the way it is with fandom. The only time i find it comical is if someone beats the horse to death but when the draft is still ongoing and someone would of rather had someone else i don think its the end of the world or bad that said member/fan dislikes the pick and states so. And i hate to burst the bubble but even though the FO do spend more time and have more qualifications doesnt mean they can or wont mistakes. I laugh at those who think that only the guys in the FO can make good calls vs bad ones. I know for a fact that i could do just as well as they do and also do just as bad as they do. Its ALL a crapshoot so there are really no "experts" as some people want to believe. I love your takes and your knowledge that you share on here but make no mistake you can come across just as arrogant or cocky as the rest of us. No one is innocent on this board when it comes to talking football and how they behave with who is a Bronco or who isnt. Just because Denver drafted a guy like Clarett (someone who i was strongly against drafting) doesnt mean i have to like him. Dude may have had talent but was a clear piece of shit and i didnt have to play in the NFL to know that.

[underrated29]

There goes okra for.

[aberdien]

damnit

[underrated29]

Cardinals have a great draft!

[Lancane]

Not every player that is drafted will be a starter Lan, you should know this.

Oh, I know that North, but I do believe that, that should be the focus for the first three rounds.

[G_Money]

Cardinals need a great draft. We need a coupla guys...

~G

[Ziggy]

I dont think thats real a fair assessment man. Yes, people like certain players and some dont like certain players but thats just the way it is with fandom. The only time i find it comical is if someone beats the horse to death but when the draft is still ongoing and someone would of rather had someone else i don think its the end of the world or bad that said member/fan dislikes the pick and states so. And i hate to burst the bubble but even though the FO do spend more time and have more qualifications doesnt mean they can or wont mistakes. I laugh at those who think that only the guys in the FO can make good calls vs bad ones. I know for a fact that i could do just as well as they do and also do just as bad as they do. Its ALL a crapshoot so there are really no "experts" as some people want to believe. I love your takes and your knowledge that you share on here but make no mistake you can come across just as arrogant or cocky as the rest of us. No one is innocent on this board when it comes to talking football and how they behave with who is a Bronco or who isnt. Just because Denver drafted a guy like Clarett (someone who i was strongly against drafting) doesnt mean i have to like him. Dude may have had talent but was a clear piece of shit and i didnt have to play in the NFL to know that.

Let me apologize for the times when I do come across as arrogant or cocky. That's something that I've tried to work on over the years in every day life. It's harder on the net because you can easily lose context. I'll work harder on it.

[Lancane]

I don't really know if the Broncos are going to be able to unload Mays, but not like they have anyone else to unload for picks...unless they want to go forward without Moreno, he'd have some value.

[underrated29]

I'm really torn right now. I know we have like 20 picks til we are up but I don't know who I would choose out of:

Barrett jones- we need a backup C badly! Plus he can play all Ol positions. Very smart.
Duke Williams- we are looking for a ss to replace Adams and this guy is the goods. Likely will not fall to round 5 at all
John Simon- he is a PRS just like doom, could end up as good as him too. Love his motor and speed. Solid DE to groom
Ryan swope- I don't like his hands but in the 4th he is worth it. Like all our wr will be FA in 1 or 2 years. Need one.
Reddick/muati- both these MLBs are great muati was like a top 50 player til he got hurt. Good ILbs.

Sadly, I would resume none will be there at our pick in 5. Some might not even make it to our 4th. These are guys I like best and I wouldn't know which to take.

[underrated29]

Damn. There goes duke.

[G_Money]

I just wonder how many people would have lost their shit if we'd drafted Chris Harris in the 3rd. That would have turned out all right. Or Woodyard, who also went undrafted but I was SCREAMING about on draft day. We'll see what happens with Webster, but with the DB success we've had recently I wouldn't put it past us to have found a contributor.

And as to whether he was drafted too early, well... it only takes one other team to value someone the way you do and he's outta there, so while it sure ain't how I saw that 3rd round going I wanna see how the rest plays out first. Still gotta get valuable pieces the rest of the way.

I was more upset about Osweiler last year, I guess.

~G

[Northman]

Let me apologize for the times when I do come across as arrogant or cocky. That's something that I've tried to work on over the years in every day life. It's harder on the net because you can easily lose context. I'll work harder on it.

You dont have to apologize for anything. Having confidence in your takes or your views shows you do the homework or stand behind what you believe. I didnt mean to come off like i was trying to lecture you so i apologize for that myself. But, i was just trying to show that everyone feels and believes strongly in certain players and certain moves. Its why some people still believe that McDaniels was better than he actually was (my take). But yea, dont change anything, its not like you come across as a douchebag like me. Your just confident in your assessments. :)

[LTC Pain]

So now the Eagles have Vick, Foles and Barkley on the roster??? Foles must be a goner.

[Northman]

I think Vick is actually the goner. Foles showed more promise than Vick has the last couple of years.

[underrated29]

I just wonder how many people would have lost their shit if we'd drafted Chris Harris in the 3rd. That would have turned out all right. Or Woodyard, who also went undrafted but I was SCREAMING about on draft day. We'll see what happens with Webster, but with the DB success we've had recently I wouldn't put it past us to have found a contributor.

And as to whether he was drafted too early, well... it only takes one other team to value someone the way you do and he's outta there, so while it sure ain't how I saw that 3rd round going I wanna see how the rest plays out first. Still gotta get valuable pieces the rest of the way.

I was more upset about Osweiler last year, I guess.

~G



Heheh- dude I had Woodward to us in the second in my mock. Lol. I'm such an idiot. 2nd round or undrafted. Hmmmm. Broncos certainly knew better than me. Still feel dumb about that one

[Poet]

Yeah, for instance, one did not need to be a genius to realize that JaMarcus Russell was probably going to fail in Oakland. A few years ago the Giants got laughed at for the selection of Jason Pierre-Paul because they took him too early. They saw what they needed to see and took him. Then Jax tries to do the same thing with the DT/DE guy that was rated as a pick in the mid-second round that they took in the top ten. Some people are good at it, some people are not. But again, why is it with regularity I can tell you if the top four picks for Cincinnati will pan out for us?

Why can a lot of the 'smart' fans?

I don't doubt that the scouts are paid for a reason. But I do doubt that their job is some ridiculous super technical brilliant amalgamation of mental talent. For crying out loud, Kiper Jr. can lay into someone for their technique and motor.

[underrated29]

I think Vick is actually the goner. Foles showed more promise than Vick has the last couple of years.



What? Are you sure? Didnt foles throw like 1td and 7 ints?

[Ravage!!!]

I think Vick is actually the goner. Foles showed more promise than Vick has the last couple of years.

Not in the new system. Vick is the poster boy for that system from Oregon.

[Northman]

Yeah, for instance, one did not need to be a genius to realize that JaMarcus Russell was probably going to fail in Oakland. A few years ago the Giants got laughed at for the selection of Jason Pierre-Paul because they took him too early. They saw what they needed to see and took him. Then Jax tries to do the same thing with the DT/DE guy that was rated as a pick in the mid-second round that they took in the top ten. Some people are good at it, some people are not. But again, why is it with regularity I can tell you if the top four picks for Cincinnati will pan out for us?

Why can a lot of the 'smart' fans?

I don't doubt that the scouts are paid for a reason. But I do doubt that their job is some ridiculous super technical brilliant amalgamation of mental talent. For crying out loud, Kiper Jr. can lay into someone for their technique and motor.

Exactly. Pay me money to fly around the country to watch players and tape. Its not rocket science here.

[Northman]

What? Are you sure? Didnt foles throw like 1td and 7 ints?


To be fair he was a rookie on a really really overrated team. I mean, are we really going to slight the guy in his first season?

[Northman]

Not in the new system. Vick is the poster boy for that system from Oregon.

Then i will continue to watch them fail. Vick is brittle and can not pass worth a damn when he needs too. Not that i care though, i find it rather enjoyable. lol

[silkamilkamonico]

You have to wonder what Chip Kelly is going to do in Philly.

Matt Barkley is everything not what Kelly looks for in a QB for his system.

[underrated29]

To be fair he was a rookie on a really really overrated team. I mean, are we really going to slight the guy in his first season?



You are right but I would take Vick over foles 100/100 times for any system. Vick has proven it, so I like that more than someone who could prove it.

[Northman]

So Washington is still out there?

[Northman]

You have to wonder what Chip Kelly is going to do in Philly.

Matt Barkley is everything not what Kelly looks for in a QB for his system.

Yea, if Vick is what he wants than Barkley isnt that kind of player. It sounds like he may go in more traditional QB direction which would actually be smart at the professional level.

[underrated29]

Yeah just saw that. Thought he ws gone.....I dont know much about him but coach and a few others like him quite a bit. More than Simon- who I really like.

[Northman]

I wonder if Zam thinks this is good for NY. To give Eli some competition in camp.

[NightTerror218]

Yea, if Vick is what he wants than Barkley isnt that kind of player. It sounds like he may go in more traditional QB direction which would actually be smart at the professional level.

I think he will go up tempto with traditional QB. I think Vick is on way out, big contract and canter stay healthy. Barklwy and foles can fight for starter

[Poet]

Didn't they pay him a chunk of change when they kept him on the roster? If I had to guess, I would keep Vick for a year and let Barkly sit and learn. Foles isn't a talentless scrub, so I could understand keeping him and cutting Vick. Regardless, Chip just gave the Eagles options that aren't revolting. I think that's a good sign for the Iggles.

[Northman]

So how many more picks we got til us?

[Ziggy]

Titans get Warmack and Schwenke along with adding Levitre in free agency. Talk about rebuilding a line in short order. Dang.

[Ziggy]

And there goes Barrett Jones.

[Poet]

Is it mean to point out that THE DREAM'S JOB IS SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAFE!?!??!?

[underrated29]

Sob

[Skinny]

Nice pick by the Rams. They need to protect Bradford better, especially with these new weapons they want him to get the ball too.

[Northman]

Nice pick by the Rams. They need to protect Bradford better, especially with these new weapons they want him to get the ball too.

Yea, but it probably pisses off Chronic who wants Tebow to be the starter over Bradford. lol

[Ziggy]

The Rams are killing this draft.

[Ziggy]

Broncos in 10 picks.

[Northman]

The Rams are killing this draft.

They will be greatly improved. Its no shocker that Fisher is turning them around. Dont care about the Rams but im happy for Chris Long. Maybe Denver could convince Fisher to trade Long for Mays?


Ok, back to reality......

[Skinny]

Yea, but it probably pisses off Chronic who wants Tebow to be the starter over Bradford. lol

It's only a matter of time. War Tebow.

[Northman]

Come to think of it as they discuss Jones, is Stiles in the draft and has he been taken?

[Ziggy]

There's still a ton of talent on the board.

[underrated29]

Getting close......

[underrated29]

Cinch takes swope?

[underrated29]

Nope

[Ziggy]

Anyone else think that there's a chance the Broncos double up on RB's? Johnathan Franklin and Marcus Lattimore would both be great value here.

[Northman]

Im hoping Lattimore keeps falling. I still want him. lol

[Ziggy]

Best player on the board right now IMO---Jesse Williams

[Northman]

Anyone else think that there's a chance the Broncos double up on RB's? Johnathan Franklin and Marcus Lattimore would both be great value here.

Beat me too it. lmao

[Ziggy]

Great pick for Shanny there.

[underrated29]

Best player on the board right now IMO---Jesse Williams



I just texted my bears friend that

[Ziggy]

Williams, Simon, Swope, Lattimore, Franklin, Washington, Reddik, Poyer.......lots of studs left.

[underrated29]

I don't want another rb. Value is there but we are not getting rid of Hillman, and ball is our starter.....I guess they'd be cheaper than knowshon but I like knowshon and any other would have to play ST which I'm not sure they do, to bet out lance

[Nomad]

Skinny.....you keeping your fingers crossed for Lattimore?

[Nick]

lol @ landry and barkley going in 4th.

[Skinny]

Skinny.....you keeping your fingers crossed for Lattimore?Yes. I'd love to him in the orange and blue, or vise versa....

[Ziggy]

Best pass rusher in the draft is still on the board as well.

[chazoe60]

Think Hou takes Swope here?

[underrated29]

I'm sure it's going to be someone I've never heard of but man I hope for Simon, Williams, reddick, muati, swope.....do it johns.madd another John to the team!

[Ziggy]

On the clock.

[Nick]

A.J. Klein?

[Skinny]

I'd be real happy with Swope here.

[underrated29]

Lets do it! Here we goooo!

[Nomad]

Think Hou takes Swope here?

NO!!!!!!!:lol:

[Nick]

Who has best work ethic? lol

[Northman]

I'm sure it's going to be someone I've never heard of but man I hope for Simon, Williams, reddick, muati, swope.....do it johns.madd another John to the team!

I wouldnt mind Swope but after getting Welker i dont think its near a big need anymore.

[Nomad]

This is like going to a buffet.

[ForgettingBrandonMarshall]

Trade

[Northman]

Denver traded out?

[spikerman]

Pick traded to Packers.

[Ziggy]

Traded to Packers

[chazoe60]

We got Aaron Rodgers!!!!!! Hells yeah baby!!!!!!!

[I Eat Staples]

We should have traded our 3rd round pick and taken Webster with this pick.

[Nomad]

Meltdown!

[SR]

We got Aaron Rodgers!!!!!! Hells yeah baby!!!!!!!

And he's gonna sit behind Peyton to learn!

[Simple Jaded]

Stealers got a steal, best QB in the draft.

[Northman]

Pack get Franklin

[Simple Jaded]

And he's gonna sit behind Peyton to learn!

But is he legit competition for Osweiler?

[Northman]

Maybe Denver wants Lattimore. :)

[ForgettingBrandonMarshall]

What did we get?

[Skinny]

We got picks #146 #161 in the 5th now.

[underrated29]

Arghhhhhh I've got to deuce so bad and I was waiting for the pick before I did.....now I have to wait longer. Not cool elway, not cool!

[SR]

Maybe Denver wants Lattimore. :)

Highly doubt it.

[chazoe60]

Any idea what we got?

[Ziggy]

traded down for a 6th.

[SR]

But is he legit competition for Osweiler?

No.

[Dapper Dan]

Oh My God!!!!


I'm so confused.

[Ziggy]

have 146th in the 5th and 173 in the 6th now.

[Ziggy]

Traded down for a 6th with impact players on the board. I'm confused.

[Dapper Dan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdFydPakxaI

[Simple Jaded]

No.

Then we're no better than before.

[ForgettingBrandonMarshall]

I think we traded a little too far down...I didn't mind the trade back, but there are a lot of quality picks that will go before we get to pick again

[Dapper Dan]

The money will be going around. Good luck with that. I am going to bed now.

[underrated29]

Ok. 20 picks before we get to pick. Ima go do the Triple S- if anyone would care to post the picks I will keep my iPad with me-

[Nomad]

Goodman had a good game against LSU.

[Skinny]

Goodman had a good game against LSU.Really good pass rusher. Needs some work on his run defense.

[Dzone]

what a stupid trade.

[Krugan]

Still some decent players out there, just not sure anyone who will make an impact right away.

Would love to see latimore, if he heals well, hes a steal at this point.

[silkamilkamonico]

We traded our 4th.

What did we get?

A 5th and a 6th?

[Northman]

Still some decent players out there, just not sure anyone who will make an impact right away.

Would love to see latimore, if he heals well, hes a steal at this point.

Totally agree. I have a feeling that the FO thinks we are ok at DE with what we have (although im not so sure) but at this point its all about depth and potential.

[ForgettingBrandonMarshall]

We traded our 4th.

What did we get?

A 5th and a 6th?

Yes

[Skinny]

We traded our 4th.

What did we get?

A 5th and a 6th?

Andrew Mason ‏@MaseDenver
#Broncos will pick three times in 28 selections (146, 161, 173).

[ForgettingBrandonMarshall]

And the Ravens take Simon...

[Dapper Dan]

I'm so confused

[Nomad]

Damn....how many picks do SF and Balt have in this draft.

[Nomad]

I'm so confused

You talk n type in your sleep.:lol:

[Ziggy]

There are about 20 very very good players left on the board as far as I can tell. The Broncos could end up walking away with 3 of them. We'll see what happens.

[Northman]

Dman, SF just took Lattimore. :(

[Nomad]

Sorry Skinny and North......damn 9ers.

[Ziggy]

Lattimore to San Fran. The rich get richer.

[silkamilkamonico]

Damn.

Great pick for the 49ers.

[Northman]

Niners are going to be scary once again. Kaep with another year under his belt and some good draft picks for the Niners to boot.

[Skinny]

Happy for Lattimore. Good situation for him there.

[Northman]

Happy for Lattimore. Good situation for him there.

Perfect one really. Wont be forced to come back to early and has a solid young team there.

[Nomad]

Say Toilolo 5 times as fast as you can:lol:

[Skinny]

Perfect one really. Wont be forced to come back to early and has a solid young team there.Exactly.

[underrated29]

Ok I'm back. So Simon went to the birds those **** faces and latt went to the niners?


Are Williams Washington, reddick, muati, still on the board?

[Ziggy]

Ok I'm back. So Simon went to the birds those **** faces and latt went to the niners?


Are Williams Washington, reddick, muati, still on the board?

Yes

[Nick]

Lattimore would be a waste of roster space... for us. Frisco is not a bad place for him but if grabbing another back... much rather have Marshall out of Arizona. Not sure where he is at but has some good receiving abilities.

[Ziggy]

There are still 3 guys on the board that could come in and challenge for the starting MLB job. AJ Klein, Kevin Reddick, and Michael Mauti.

[Poet]

The spend so much time sucking off the Ravens and the Niners, but I don't see more than three drafts better than Cincinnati's this year. Going back the last four years we've been one of the best drafting teams in football. I'm not taking away from the Niners or the Ravens, because they're killing it. The Rams and the Cardinals have had a helluva draft too.

[Nomad]

Curious.....did Swope get picked up yet?

[Simple Jaded]

Lattimore would be a waste of roster space... for us. Frisco is not a bad place for him but if grabbing another back... much rather have Marshall out of Arizona. Not sure where he is at but has some good receiving abilities.
They can get Cameron Marshall after the draft, I think. Good Practice Squad player, imo.

[Northman]

No...

[Nomad]

Denard's family looks more excited than himself.

[Nick]

Is David Bass DE still available would be worth a shot at one of our spots. Not sure why he his rated but how the Broncos are drafting. wonderful motor and work ethic and keeps improving. Worth a shot. Saw some games of this kid and does not quit

[underrated29]

Williams all gone. So sad.

[chazoe60]

Denard's family looks more excited than himself.

I think we should take a flyer on the big fella in the pink shirt in the 7th round.



The announcement would be funny as Hell "With the 28th pick in the 7th round the Broncos take the big dude in the pink shirt who was hanging out with Denard."

[Nick]

I really like the “worker” mentality we are going after. Good character, all with very good drive. Drive is one thing you can not teach.

[underrated29]

Milehireefer.......lol awesome name.

[Nick]

Williams all gone. So sad.

Was he rated higher? Seems like a 1-2 down situational career player IMO. Maybe the seahawks drafted him as a FB? (if you don't get that you don't watch college).

[underrated29]

Seen him anywhere from late 1 to 2

[Nick]

Man knee injuries killed everyone's draft didn't it. Looks like a lot of teams just absolutely removed people with certain injuries.

[underrated29]

Ok we are close.

Swope, reddick, muati, dysert, bray, Arizona Matt........I hope we don't reach on the qb first. I don't know any good SS left but I wouldn't be surprised if tht was a position we looked at.

[Simple Jaded]

Stephan is gone! Thank God.

[underrated29]

Coaches and LANs Washington is still there too.

[Simple Jaded]

Coaches and LANs Washington is still there too.

Take Washington, Buchanon and Q. Smith. **** it!

[underrated29]

Take Washington, Buchanon and Q. Smith. **** it!


Boom!

[chazoe60]

I just hope we draft white guys from here on out. AJ Klein/Mike Mauti, John Boyett, Connor Vernon etc..

[Skinny]

I just hope we draft white guys from here on out. AJ Klein/Mike Mauti, John Boyett, Connor Vernon etc..Can we just throw Bumphis in so we don't get penalized by the NFL committee?

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis

Broncos now have picks 146 and 151 in 5th; 173 in 6th; 234 in 7th. All told, they will have 7 picks in 7-round draft

[Nomad]

My favorite coach.....Coach Les Miles!

[underrated29]

Alright please not qb...lets go HAM on this pick Denver

[Simple Jaded]

Boom is right mothertruckers!

[OrangeHoof]

Quanterus Smith sounds like he should be quadruplets.

[Nomad]

Quanterus...what a name. Hope he can play.

[chazoe60]

Well, he's obviously not a white guy so I'm pissed.

[Nomad]

Well, he's obviously not a white guy so I'm pissed.

Could you tell in name alone?!?:lol:

[honz]

Well, he's obviously not a white guy so I'm pissed.

Post flagged for racism, cracker.

[Rick]

Certainly later than I would have hoped, but pass rush specialist...hope he works out.

[Nick]

work ethic undersized, probably special teams starting out. Had ACL... Faster then Bess but would need to put on some weight IMO. Another guy with drive. Good risk... Probably be a lot higher if was not for injury

[Simple Jaded]

He may have to start season on Pup, which is why I think they should draft another DE.......or two.

[Nick]

I like him and bess... While smaller dudes they have that don't quit mentality. Bess would have been safer because of injury. The anylists I am sure love this pick

[Nick]

There goes Western Kentucky's draft class lol

[Dzone]

Hes a foot taller than Elvis Dumervil, that is an upgrade at the position. This guy has Paul Toviessi written all over him

[Simple Jaded]

He's a PRS, reminds me of Reggie Hayward. He abused Bama this year.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis

Quanterus Smith also had 3.5-sacks vs. Arkansas State. So 11.5 of 12.5 sacks came in 3 games. You know what they say: Sacks come in bunches.

Quanterus Smith, opened 2012 with 3.0 sacks vs. Alabama. had 5.0 sack game vs. Florida International. 12.5 sacks for year

Quanterus Smith, 6-5, 250. Edge pass rusher

That's Qunaterus Smith, Western KY. Had big sack game vs. Alabama

[Magnificent Seven]

Through ten games, he was leading the nation in sacks with 12.5

[Denver Native (Carol)]

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/quanterus-smith?id=2539337

Draft Grade - 75.7

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis

DE Quanterus Smith tore ACL in left knee on Nov. 17. So he won't be ready to practice until start of training camp at earliest.

[Nick]

LOL @ Denard GIF: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/22152221/nfl-draft-jags-select-denard-robinson-in-5th-round-135th-pick

[Nick]

add bess in at DE here and would be great

[Simple Jaded]

add bess in at DE here and would be great

Nick do you mean David Bass?