Bold Predictions

[Superchop 7]

At this point, I can guarantee LAST PLACE in the AFC West.

I will bring back the thread at the end of the year.

Have a nice day.

GO BRONCOS.

[Jaws]

This is my bald prediction- there will be a lot more shiny topped dudes on this board before season's end!

Get ready for some stress induced hairpulling!

But we ain't gonna be last.

[FanInAZ]

I've said 2nd place from day 1 and I'm sticking with it.

Chargers (have not done anything to mess up what they already had going for them)
Broncos (have messed a lot of what they had going for them, but may have made some strides on Defense)
Chiefs (had nothing going for them last year so saying that they will improve isn't saying much)
Raiders (no matter how much tallent they may aquire, Al Davis' ego is capable of ruining them)

[claymore]

I dont see Cassel doing much for the Chiefs. They were fooled to. At least they have their #1 pick next year.

[Northman]

19-0

[EastCoastBronco]

19-0

North...I think you just set the world record for largest amount of sarcasm jammed into the fewest amount of characters...;-)

I'm betting that once the offence starts to click, we do a lot better than people are thinking...

9-7

[claymore]

North...I think you just set the world record for largest amount of sarcasm jammed into the fewest amount of characters...;-)

I'm betting that once the offence starts to click, we do a lot better than people are thinking...

9-7

I hope your right.

[roomemp]

I say we wish either 9-7 or 8-8. The defense really steps up their game.......I think we play a lot of close games. By season's end, we will have built a sound foundation to build on.

[Jaws]

Six wins at worst, nine at best, that's my prediction.

[MasterShake]

Six wins at worst, nine at best, that's my prediction.

Sounds about right to me, too. Second place. I don't see us doing worse than the Raiders and Chiefs. We are a mess, they are disasters. Though the Chargers are just a few key injuries from a bad season, they are still the most talented and cohesive team in our division. And now I'm gonna go throw up because I can't believe I just typed that.

[LRtagger]

my bold prediction:

This thread will not be bumped at the end of the season.

[Northman]

Six wins at worst, nine at best, that's my prediction.

If we get nine than im sold which is what im expecting. Good luck to him.

[Traveler]

Bold prediction: Still 6-10 with noticable improvement after Week 8.

[Shazam!]

Yeah, that's bold.

My prediction-

Stewed crow, broiled crow, fried crow, baked crow, crow pie, crow kabobs, crow stir fry will all be served up by the end of the season.

[broncophan]

4-12.........and that's pushin' it with the schedule we have...
one win against the chiefs, 1 against the raiders, one against the bengals.....and one other win against some team we shouldn't beat.

[Dortoh]

3-13 and I hope to eat alot of crow over that prediction.

[Ravage!!!]

5 wins... + or minus 1

[CoachChaz]

How we can predict anything with the unknown ahead of us is strange to me, but based on talent and scheme against our schedule, I will simply say that 6-10 would be expected as par considering the changes that HAD TO BE MADE. Anything better than that is a positive and a move in the right direction.

[Ravage!!!]

How can we predict??? Isn't that what every casino betting ring in the nation is built on?

[CoachChaz]

How can we predict??? Isn't that what every casino betting ring in the nation is built on?

I'll elaborate. if Shanny were still here, we'd know the players and the system and what to expect. Right now, we cant even begin to create expectations because we arent completely familiar with the personnel and how they (old and new) will perform in the new systems. That makes it harder to get a read on the team until we see them play.

[NightTrainLayne]

I book-marked this thread way back when it was made to check back in on it after the season. The majority of the predictions were surprisingly close to the mark.




This is my bald prediction- there will be a lot more shiny topped dudes on this board before season's end!

Get ready for some stress induced hairpulling!

But we ain't gonna be last.


I've said 2nd place from day 1 and I'm sticking with it.

Chargers (have not done anything to mess up what they already had going for them)
Broncos (have messed a lot of what they had going for them, but may have made some strides on Defense)
Chiefs (had nothing going for them last year so saying that they will improve isn't saying much)
Raiders (no matter how much tallent they may aquire, Al Davis' ego is capable of ruining them)


I say we wish either 9-7 or 8-8. The defense really steps up their game.......I think we play a lot of close games. By season's end, we will have built a sound foundation to build on.


Six wins at worst, nine at best, that's my prediction.


Sounds about right to me, too. Second place. I don't see us doing worse than the Raiders and Chiefs. We are a mess, they are disasters. Though the Chargers are just a few key injuries from a bad season, they are still the most talented and cohesive team in our division. And now I'm gonna go throw up because I can't believe I just typed that.


my bold prediction:

This thread will not be bumped at the end of the season.

[Broncolingus]

At this point, I can guarantee LAST PLACE in the AFC West.

I will bring back the thread at the end of the year.

Have a nice day.

GO BRONCOS.

http://fatfinch.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/american-crow.jpg

I like LTRaggers post the best...

[Superchop 7]

Record aside......

Going 0-3 against the AFC West "in their own house" especially when it mattered has left me no doubt who the worst team in the division truly was.

[Ziggy]

Record aside......

Going 0-3 against the AFC West "in their own house" especially when it mattered has left me no doubt who the worst team in the division truly was.

So even when you're proven wrong in your own thread, you can't man up and eat your crow. Instead, you just pick something else to whine about. The football IQ you've shown in this forum since you've joined is identical to that of a fish stick. You have no credibility here.

[MasterShake]

Record aside......

Going 0-3 against the AFC West "in their own house" especially when it mattered has left me no doubt who the worst team in the division truly was.

Going 3-0 against the AFCW on the road was awesome though!:salute:

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Record aside......

Going 0-3 against the AFC West "in their own house" especially when it mattered has left me no doubt who the worst team in the division truly was.

NO NO NO - your initial post:

"At this point, I can guarantee LAST PLACE in the AFC West.

I will bring back the thread at the end of the year.

Have a nice day."

No record aside - no NOTHING - you guaranteed LAST PLACE in the AFC West

DAMN - why can't people man up, rather than trying to cover up :tsk:

[Bozo Jr.]

NO NO NO - your initial post:

"At this point, I can guarantee LAST PLACE in the AFC West.

I will bring back the thread at the end of the year.

Have a nice day."

No record aside - no NOTHING - you guaranteed LAST PLACE in the AFC West

DAMN - why can't people man up, rather than trying to cover up :tsk:

too tru! Chop, yes you were wrong....again.

[pnbronco]

At this point, I can guarantee LAST PLACE in the AFC West.

I will bring back the thread at the end of the year.

Have a nice day.

GO BRONCOS.

This is what you posted. The fact is that the Broncos were not last in the AFC West. In your opinion the Broncos are the worst team, but opinions are not facts.

[BroncoJoe]

Opinions are like Superchops. They all stink.

Wait. Shouldn't there be a body part in that sentence?

Oh. Checked again. Guess there is.

[FanInAZ]

I've said 2nd place from day 1 and I'm sticking with it.

Chargers (have not done anything to mess up what they already had going for them)
Broncos (have messed a lot of what they had going for them, but may have made some strides on Defense)
Chiefs (had nothing going for them last year so saying that they will improve isn't saying much)
Raiders (no matter how much tallent they may aquire, Al Davis' ego is capable of ruining them)

KCL, what's wrong with your Chiefs! I would have had perfect predictions if they would step up and over the Raiders! Seriously, I must admit that the Raiders did a lot better then I expected. KC did improve like I predicted, but the Raiders improved more. So DS will be happy to see that his team is the 1 team that I totally missed on.

I must also admit that our defense improved more then I ever believed that they could in 1 off-season. Although I didn't make it part of my official prediction, I was only expecting Denver to get maybe 6 or 7 wins at the most. So even though we collapsed at the end of the season AGAIN, I'm very pleased with 8-8.

[Lonestar]

most folks do not want to think about it but both the Chiefs and the faiders have been sucking up talent for the past 5-6 years mostly from the top draft choices they have been getting and maybe with the raiders longer than that.
all that has been holding them and even the Bolts back have been good coaching.

I think we should be #2 in our division next year but it will be a dog fight as all the team except perhaps the bolts will get better with more experience.

[Superchop 7]

most folks do not want to think about it but both the Chiefs and the faiders have been sucking up talent for the past 5-6 years mostly from the top draft choices they have been getting and maybe with the raiders longer than that.
all that has been holding them and even the Bolts back have been good coaching.

I think we should be #2 in our division next year but it will be a dog fight as all the team except perhaps the bolts will get better with more experience.


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We need to make some progress before I would predict #2.

[broncofaninfla]

IMO we finsihed as the worst team in the AFC West this year. Throw the win/loss record out, we got beat by EVERY AFC West foe at home and by both the Raiders and Chiefs at home when we needed to win to stay in the post season hunt. We were outcoached and outplayed by all AFC West teams at home and regressed as the season progressed with the Chiefs and Raiders both getting better. 2010 will be a new season but if 2009 is any indication we'll have our work cut our work cut out for us. Oakland has finally realized that Russell is a liability so we can't count on him to hand us the games anymore and the Chiefs are only getting better with Charles toting the rock. Charles is a bonfide stud RB, something we desperatly lack. Throw out the bad oline argument on him as he makes a large number of his moves behind the line of scrimmage and has shown the ability to freelance and make something out of nothing. We have a lot of holes to fix in personel, coaching and schemes.

[MasterShake]

IMO we finsihed as the worst team in the AFC West this year. Throw the win/loss record out, we got beat by EVERY AFC West foe at home and by both the Raiders and Chiefs at home when we needed to win to stay in the post season hunt. We were outcoached and outplayed by all AFC West teams at home and regressed as the season progressed with the Chiefs and Raiders both getting better. 2010 will be a new season but if 2009 is any indication we'll have our work cut our work cut out for us. Oakland has finally realized that Russell is a liability so we can't count on him to hand us the games anymore and the Chiefs are only getting better with Charles toting the rock. Charles is a bonfide stud RB, something we desperatly lack. Throw out the bad oline argument on him as he makes a large number of his moves behind the line of scrimmage and has shown the ability to freelance and make something out of nothing. We have a lot of holes to fix in personel, coaching and schemes.

Chiefs had practically the same record as us over the last stretch, so I'd say we stalled, not regressed. Losing by one point to the Raiders is still a loss, but I hardly call that being outcoached. That was players being outplayed on the final drive by a team playing loose and playing spoiler.

And yes, that Charles is a freak! :lol:

[Superchop 7]

The Chiefs are now the Patriots with Weiss and Romeo.

[Medford Bronco]

The Chiefs are now the Patriots with Weiss and Romeo.

Not until they get actual Patriot like players with Tom Brady
and some of the defense of the past.

they do have a nice building block in Jamal Charles though

[T.K.O.]

sounds like the same ol' "we'll be lucky to win 3 games" crowd :D
we may also want to consider we we're 8-8 (again) and wont be dealing with a 1st year coach ,scheme and players in that system.
maybe we could wait until we see how free agency,the draft and TC goes before we consider next year a complete loss ?
just sayin':confused:

[spikerman]

sounds like the same ol' "we'll be lucky to win 3 games" crowd :D
we may also want to consider we we're 8-8 (again) and wont be dealing with a 1st year coach ,scheme and players in that system.maybe we could wait until we see how free agency,the draft and TC goes before we consider next year a complete loss ?
just sayin':confused:
Sounds fair and I hope for the best, but does this also mean that if there is no improvement there won't be any excuses for the coach?

[Superchop 7]

sounds like the same ol' "we'll be lucky to win 3 games" crowd :D
we may also want to consider we we're 8-8 (again) and wont be dealing with a 1st year coach ,scheme and players in that system.
maybe we could wait until we see how free agency,the draft and TC goes before we consider next year a complete loss ?
just sayin':confused:

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I agree, he "could" hit it out of the park.....

But

This time in history reminds me of the beginnings of free agency....

The Broncos were aggressive and got an edge.

This time....

Guys with deep pockets will have an edge.

and.....we don't have deep pockets.

So......free agency will probably be limited.

Our draft may have a couple of bright spots....

But

We have quite a few holes to fill.

[slim]

Classic.

[Ziggy]

Sounds fair and I hope for the best, but does this also mean that if there is no improvement there won't be any excuses for the coach?

No. It takes more than 2 offseasons to change a culture and completely revamp both the offensive and defensive lines. Add that to the fact that the Broncos were severely lacking an overall talent base, and you have to give it time. I would expect to see some improvement next season, but I'm not looking for the Broncos to be a serious threat to win the AFC title.

[Ziggy]

sounds like the same ol' "we'll be lucky to win 3 games" crowd :D
we may also want to consider we we're 8-8 (again) and wont be dealing with a 1st year coach ,scheme and players in that system.
maybe we could wait until we see how free agency,the draft and TC goes before we consider next year a complete loss ?
just sayin':confused:

There's always going to be some fans who give up hope before the first snap ever happens. It's just thier nature. Personally, I love the offseason and training camp almost as much as the season. This year should be even more interesting than the last. I was a big Shanahan fan, but I'm looking forward to having a coach that makes adressing the LOS #1 priority in the offseason. Hopefully McD is that guy. If so, it will bode well for the long term success of this team.

[Lonestar]

sounds like the same ol' "we'll be lucky to win 3 games" crowd :D
we may also want to consider we we're 8-8 (again) and wont be dealing with a 1st year coach ,scheme and players in that system.
maybe we could wait until we see how free agency,the draft and TC goes before we consider next year a complete loss ?
just sayin':confused:

yep I agree we could come out of the offseason really well and al might be sucking hind teat again..

if he ever gets a real coach and GM that team will be something to contend..

SAn should not be as good next year as some will be lost to FA and others will be dealt and then there is always the Norv factor.

But for all of those that were calling us NE west well folks it just moved to KC..

[Lonestar]

No. It takes more than 2 offseasons to change a culture and completely revamp both the offensive and defensive lines. Add that to the fact that the Broncos were severely lacking an overall talent base, and you have to give it time. I would expect to see some improvement next season, but I'm not looking for the Broncos to be a serious threat to win the AFC title.

The bad part is how many top 100 picks that KC and OAK have had over the past 3-4 years now at least KC is getting the coaching staff together to use it..

we on the other hand have the coaching staff and suck for talent.. will be interesting offseason me thinks..

[spikerman]

No. It takes more than 2 offseasons to change a culture and completely revamp both the offensive and defensive lines. Add that to the fact that the Broncos were severely lacking an overall talent base, and you have to give it time. I would expect to see some improvement next season, but I'm not looking for the Broncos to be a serious threat to win the AFC title.

I would be shocked if they won the title too, but now McDaniels has full ownership of the personnel and the program. If he's 8-8 or 7-9 next year does he start getting some of the blame?

[NightTrainLayne]

I would be shocked if they won the title too, but now McDaniels has full ownership of the personnel and the program. If he's 8-8 or 7-9 next year does he start getting some of the blame?

Of course. He gets blame for this season. It's his team and has been since last spring.

At the same time he's making an overhaul of the roster to fit what he wants to do, and as such he's allotted some time to accomplish that.

If we're 8-8 or 7-9 next year, McD will be facing a ton of criticism. But if we're 13-3 is he going to get some of the credit? :rhetoricalquestion:

[Cugel]

I predicted 6 or 7 wins -- most likely scenario. Eight wins possible -- tops 9. So, I underestimated by 1.

But in reality this was a 6-10 team with two incredibly lucky FLUKE wins to start the season 6-0 (the "immaculate deflection" play). They count in the record book, but NOT to gauge the talent level of the team and how well they played as an indicator for the future.

Take those lucky bounces away and the team starts 4-2 and finishes 2 and 8. :coffee:

That's really what the talent level of play on the team was last year -- and Brandon Marshall and Elvis Dumervil were pretty much the only really bright lights on the team -- and both could be gone by next season!

Whatever Bowlen is saying publicly (not much) he has to be wondering if he made the right decision in hiring McDaniels. He's going to stick it out for one more season, but if 2010 is anything like 2009, then McDaniels is GONE!

And we're starting from scratch. I'd give THAT prediction about a 50% chance -- 50-50 McDaniels is FIRED after the 2010 season! 75-25 chance he's gone in January 2012. :coffee:

[Cugel]

Of course. He gets blame for this season. It's his team and has been since last spring.

At the same time he's making an overhaul of the roster to fit what he wants to do, and as such he's allotted some time to accomplish that.

If we're 8-8 or 7-9 next year, McD will be facing a ton of criticism. But if we're 13-3 is he going to get some of the credit? :rhetoricalquestion:

What kind of ridiculous question is that? Of COURSE he'll "get the credit" if the Broncos finish 13-3!

That would mean that his player personnel decisions all panned out and that unlike this season when the team flat QUIT on him down the stretch and rolled over for KC and OAK, they rallied around and played outstanding football all season long.

I'm not holding my breath waiting for that to happen. :coffee:

[NightTrainLayne]

I predicted 6 or 7 wins -- most likely scenario. Eight wins possible -- tops 9. So, I underestimated by 1.

But in reality this was a 6-10 team with two incredibly lucky FLUKE wins to start the season 6-0 (the "immaculate deflection" play). They count in the record book, but NOT to gauge the talent level of the team and how well they played as an indicator for the future.

Take those lucky bounces away and the team starts 4-2 and finishes 2 and 8. :coffee:

That's really what the talent level of play on the team was last year -- and Brandon Marshall and Elvis Dumervil were pretty much the only really bright lights on the team -- and both could be gone by next season!

Whatever Bowlen is saying publicly (not much) he has to be wondering if he made the right decision in hiring McDaniels. He's going to stick it out for one more season, but if 2010 is anything like 2009, then McDaniels is GONE!

And we're starting from scratch. I'd give THAT prediction about a 50% chance -- 50-50 McDaniels is FIRED after the 2010 season! 75-25 chance he's gone in January 2012. :coffee:


If Orton doesn't get hurt in Washington we win that game.

If Philadelphia doesn't make an amazing side-line catch to put them in FG range, and McNabb doesn't convert 3rd and 25 maybe we win that game.

If a couple calls don't go against us in the 2nd game with Oakland we win that one.

If you want to discount the "flukes", then recognize that we only lost to Oakland by one-point and lost to Philly on a last-second FG, and would have beat Washington if Orton hadn't gotten hurt.

Non-"fluke" start = 4-2. Alternate finish = 5-5. Whoa. . .that's a 9-7 season

Everyone can play these games. That's why the ACTUAL results are what matter. Not a bunch of what-ifs.

We played one of the most difficult schedules in the league and finished 8-8 with a new coaching staff, somthing like 30 new players and completely new schemes on both the offensive and defensive sides of the ball.

[Lonestar]

If Orton doesn't get hurt in Washington we win that game.

If Philadelphia doesn't make an amazing side-line catch to put them in FG range, and McNabb doesn't convert 3rd and 25 maybe we win that game.

If a couple calls don't go against us in the 2nd game with Oakland we win that one.

If you want to discount the "flukes", then recognize that we only lost to Oakland by one-point and lost to Philly on a last-second FG, and would have beat Washington if Orton hadn't gotten hurt.

Non-"fluke" start = 4-2. Alternate finish = 5-5. Whoa. . .that's a 9-7 season

Everyone can play these games. That's why the ACTUAL results are what matter. Not a bunch of what-ifs.

We played one of the most difficult schedules in the league and finished 8-8 with a new coaching staff, somthing like 30 new players and completely new schemes on both the offensive and defensive sides of the ball.

meant to say GREAT post :salute:

everyone is still pissed about not hiring a Defensive guru like spags (love what he did in STL), scrapping the ZBS, and going to the NE scheme that he was hired to bring in..

Therefore any and every thing this guy does will in fact be a failure to those that are still thinking everything that mike did was great. (save a total lack of defense) but to them his O was the bomb, even though we have had RED Zone failures since I can't remember when.. just how did Jason elam become one of the best and highest scoring FG in the NFL.. OUR FAILURE to produce inside the 10 yard line.


Pat was tired of what was going on I believe that he was the impetus in hiring Jim Bates. mike certainly would never done that what out prompting considering he had just named slowit his DC a few weeks before.
While he allowed him to draft the DL he wanted I will always maintain he set him up for failure to prove a point to Pat that he was and still is the mastermind.

He wanted his butt boy slowit as his DC and he ulitimately got his way and his ticket out of town.

now we will see an encore in WAS..

[Dreadnought]

If Orton doesn't get hurt in Washington we win that game.

If Philadelphia doesn't make an amazing side-line catch to put them in FG range, and McNabb doesn't convert 3rd and 25 maybe we win that game.

If a couple calls don't go against us in the 2nd game with Oakland we win that one.

If you want to discount the "flukes", then recognize that we only lost to Oakland by one-point and lost to Philly on a last-second FG, and would have beat Washington if Orton hadn't gotten hurt.

Non-"fluke" start = 4-2. Alternate finish = 5-5. Whoa. . .that's a 9-7 season

Everyone can play these games. That's why the ACTUAL results are what matter. Not a bunch of what-ifs.

We played one of the most difficult schedules in the league and finished 8-8 with a new coaching staff, somthing like 30 new players and completely new schemes on both the offensive and defensive sides of the ball.


Yes, we can all play those games, but the fact remains our record over the last ten weeks was better than the Rams and the Lions - and I think thats about it. That is no fluke either, because by the end of the season we had become one of the League's bottom feeding teams. That is where I expect we will see them in 2010.

They started as a team which would end up far better than my expected 5-11, and by the time they were done they weren't even that good.

[NightTrainLayne]

Yes, we can all play those games, but the fact remains our record over the last ten weeks was better than the Rams and the Lions - and I think thats about it. That is no fluke either, because by the end of the season we had become one of the League's bottom feeding teams. That is where I expect we will see them in 2010.

They started as a team which would end up far better than my expected 5-11, and by the time they were done they weren't even that good.

Such a pessimist. :tsk: