the BEER THREAD!!!

[Slick]

i feel your pain, but everything in life is a tradeoff-- for example, i bet you're not getting freezing rain right now. . .

You're right. It's been 85 and sunny for two months straight. I quit posting in the 'How's your weather thread'

I should have filled half the back of my Toyota with beer before I drove down. :beer:

[Dreadnought]

The cervesa here isn't good. It's extremely limited.

I was lucky enough to find some Grolsch the other day at the store. Not the best, but a nice change. I find myself getting tired of Mexican beer.

I miss New Belgium beers, Boulder beers, Red Hook, Shiner Bock, Sierra Nevadas, Hazed and Infused. I hate you all. :lol:

Sierra Nevada Pale Ale I CAN get, and its mighty fine. The dive next to my office building has it on tap. I'll think of you next time I'm there! :beer:

[SR]

I bought a sixxer of Blue Moon's Full Moon "Winter Abbey Ale" a couple nights back...saw it in the cooler at Wal Mart and picked it up. I was pleasantly surprised because the last Blue Moon seasonal I tried was their Harvest Moon pumpkin ale and I didn't like it much at all. The Full Moon went well with my Sirloin that I marinated in Coke, Beer, A1, Sweet Baby Ray's honey BBQ sauce, Italian dressing, and Mustard.

[frauschieze]

I bought a sixxer of Blue Moon's Full Moon "Winter Abbey Ale" a couple nights back...saw it in the cooler at Wal Mart and picked it up. I was pleasantly surprised because the last Blue Moon seasonal I tried was their Harvest Moon pumpkin ale and I didn't like it much at all. The Full Moon went well with my Sirloin that I marinated in Coke, Beer, A1, Sweet Baby Ray's honey BBQ sauce, Italian dressing, and Mustard.

That marinade sounds.......interesting? Did you steak turn out okay?

[SR]

That marinade sounds.......interesting? Did you steak turn out okay?

The steak was friggin great. I just started pulling shit out of the fridge.

[Dreadnought]

I had to represent my Boss at an event put on by...

...New York state microbrewers! Free samples, and all 'on the clock". Man, we make good beer in NY! IPA's! Belgian Blondes! Hefelweizens!

I'm home now, and My wife is mad, she says I've drunk too much :D

Recommendation - If you get a chance to try Saranac Imperial Pale Ale do so. Man, I'm in a good mood! :lol: :elefant: :beer:

[MOtorboat]

I'm home now, and My wife is mad, she says I've drunk too much :D

It was on the clock, WTF else were you supposed to do?

P.S. It's like when my boss takes the office for our bonding sessions...you can't just NOT drink...I mean, seriously.

[frauschieze]

It was on the clock, WTF else were you supposed to do?

P.S. It's like when my boss takes the office for our bonding sessions...you can't just NOT drink...I mean, seriously.

One of my former bosses used to make all his employees take Sambuca shots for unity at conferences.

I hate Sambuca.

[MOtorboat]

One of my former bosses used to make all his employees take Sambuca shots for unity at conferences.

I hate Sambuca.

LOL...my boss likes taking us out for beers after work, and we even shut down the office to go bowling last Thursday...our office party was at Power Play (which is kind of like Dave and Buster's) in K.C.

[Dreadnought]

It was on the clock, WTF else were you supposed to do?

P.S. It's like when my boss takes the office for our bonding sessions...you can't just NOT drink...I mean, seriously.

Exactly! It would be irresponsible not to drink! I take my duties seriously...

Tomorrow I'll draft a bill to fix the flaw in the State ABC Law (Alcohol Beverage Control) that these guys want. I would have done it anyway. \

P.S. Dogfish, the brewers I talked to knew all about Bell's Hop Blast, and spoke of it wth reverence. A goofy quirk in NYS ABC law prevents it from being sold here. I intend to fix that :D

[frauschieze]

LOL...my boss likes taking us out for beers after work, and we even shut down the office to go bowling last Thursday...our office party was at Power Play (which is kind of like Dave and Buster's) in K.C.

We don't do anything like that at the company I work for now. Closest thing we have is when we get to the point where we can't stand the company bullshit any longer, a large group of us will go out and drink margaritas until we are all plowed.

We are long overdue for another margarita night.

[frauschieze]

Exactly! It would be irresponsible not to drink! I take my duties seriously...

Tomorrow I'll draft a bill to fix the flaw in the State ABC Law (Alcohol Beverage Control) that these guys want. I would have done it anyway. \

P.S. Dogfish, the brewers I talked to knew all about Bell's Hop Blast, and spoke of it wth reverence. A goofy quirk in NYS ABC law prevents it from being sold here. I intend to fix that :D

Dread has POWER! Wow. :salute:

[Dreadnought]

Dread has POWER! Wow. :salute:

Very limited, and very indirect. I do what I can :D I write bills that ideally get plagiarized by the Dems. No hard feelings, I'm friends w/ a lot of Dems, and can point them at bills I want plagiarized. Its just how things work in Albany, NY.

[dogfish]

Exactly! It would be irresponsible not to drink! I take my duties seriously...

Tomorrow I'll draft a bill to fix the flaw in the State ABC Law (Alcohol Beverage Control) that these guys want. I would have done it anyway. \

P.S. Dogfish, the brewers I talked to knew all about Bell's Hop Blast, and spoke of it wth reverence. A goofy quirk in NYS ABC law prevents it from being sold here. I intend to fix that :D

the stuff is legendary for good reason-- one of my very favorites. . . . :beer:


if you find a way to fix an evil, repressive law it will seriously bolster your folk hero status! best of luck to you sir-- you are fighting the good fight, and your cause is a noble one. . .


:salute:

[MOtorboat]

Dread, as a non-voting analyst in the BF Top 25...this might have just given you the right to keep the top spot.

You really bring it. And the competitor in me just doesn't know how I'm going to compete.

[shank]

drinking a sawtooth ale from lefthand brewery out of longmont.

for my lack of knowing how to talk about beer (come on, i'm 20!) i will telll you simply that i like it. :D:beer:


i feel important having performed this useful public service :lol:

[Cleveland Rocks]

I would drink right now if I could.

But, unfortunately I can't mess with alcohol while I'm taking these pills for this illness I have right now.

[shank]

I would drink right now if I could.

But, unfortunately I can't mess with alcohol while I'm taking these pills for this illness I have right now.

yeah, herpes is the pits...


:D:laugh:


anyway, i want to try home brewing soon, probably this summer when i have more time. for those of you who have done it, do you recommend diving right in and getting a decent and complete home brewing kit? 2 stage fermentation? any recommendations? or should i just get a cheep like "mr. beer" kit first to see if i like it?

[dogfish]

drinking a sawtooth ale from lefthand brewery out of longmont.

for my lack of knowing how to talk about beer (come on, i'm 20!) i will telll you simply that i like it. :D:beer:


i feel important having performed this useful public service :lol:


the sawtooth is a solid ale. . . i like lefthand a lot, they were one of my favorite colorado breweries. . . their milk stout is their best beer IMO, and they brew a nice porter also-- blackjack, i believe. . . the deep cover brown ale and the sawtooth are both quality brews as well. . . .


:beer:

[Slick]

Picked up a 12 pack of Heinekin at the store today. Not much to you guys, but a real treat for me.

Also got a bottle of Don Julio Anejo, and a bottle of Captain Morgans. Gonna throw down tonight.

[dogfish]

right on slick, and good call bumping the beer thread. . . you're right that heinekin isn't a big treat to me, but if that's what you can get down there then more power to ya. . . .

:beer:


don julio is one of my faves-- that's good stuff. . . .

[Slick]

right on slick, and good call bumping the beer thread. . . you're right that heinekin isn't a big treat to me, but if that's what you can get down there then more power to ya. . . .

:beer:


don julio is one of my faves-- that's good stuff. . . .

16 bucks for a liter DJ anejo is a good deal. The Captain is for the two ladies that are coming over and they're rum drinkers. Got a 12er of Dos Equis Ambers as well.

Bumping the beer thread on a Saturday is a good thing no?

I'm hosting a small party, I hope I've got enough booze and food for everyone.

[dogfish]

16 bucks for a liter DJ anejo is a good deal. The Captain is for the two ladies that are coming over and they're rum drinkers. Got a 12er of Dos Equis Ambers as well.

Bumping the beer thread on a Saturday is a good thing no?

I'm hosting a small party, I hope I've got enough booze and food for everyone.

nice! rock on, slick. . . . :werd:

[shank]

16 bucks for a liter DJ anejo is a good deal. The Captain is for the two ladies that are coming over and they're rum drinkers. Got a 12er of Dos Equis Ambers as well.

Bumping the beer thread on a Saturday is a good thing no?

I'm hosting a small party, I hope I've got enough booze and food for everyone.

+heines. i enjoy all those beverages! did you get any cake?! it aint a party without cake. :lol:

[Slick]

+heines. i enjoy all those beverages! did you get any cake?! it aint a party without cake. :lol:

damn no

Bought some fresh mahi mahi from one of the local boat captains. caught it today. I'm making fish tacos. Already made some black beans. waiting to make the rice. made guac and homemade pico de gallo with a little habenero in it. It's spicy. I didn't fry my own chips because I have such a small kitchen here.

maybe if I put out a plate of Oreos no one will miss the cake. :lol: Hopefully everyone will get too drunk to give a shit.

happy saturday all.

[Dreadnought]

Just picked up a six of Saranac Imperial IPA. Had it for the first time at a work function Tuesday. Wow is this good! If any of you ever get the chance buy this stuff!

[frauschieze]

Dear Slick,

I am on my way to your house for dinner and drinks. Please leave the light on for me.

Yours truly,
Cheese

[dogfish]

Just picked up a six of Saranac Imperial IPA. Had it for the first time at a work function Tuesday. Wow is this good! If any of you ever get the chance buy this stuff!

i've had that one, it's definitely solid. . . i used to drink saranac back in college-- i remember sitting on my back deck after class knocking back their pilsners and black and tans. . .

[MOtorboat]

Bud Light...Bood Light...Bud Light...

[shank]

i have bud light, coors light, budweiser cans, and PBR in my fridge lol. i truly am a member of my demographic.


dog have you ever had leinenkugels Sunset Wheat?

[MOtorboat]

i have bud light, coors light, budweiser cans, and PBR in my fridge lol. i truly am a member of my demographic.


dog have you ever had leinenkugels Sunset Wheat?

I think I'm gonna get another six pack at the half of the Duke-UNC game...

[shank]

I think I'm gonna get another six pack at the half of the Duke-UNC game...

i live here in gunnison, and it's crazy the amount of PBR this town consumes... i worked at the recycling center (coughcommunityservicecough) and every load of cans that we had to sort was at least 50% PBR.

which sucks, because i like busch and only one store here sells it...

[dogfish]

i have bud light, coors light, budweiser cans, and PBR in my fridge lol. i truly am a member of my demographic.


dog have you ever had leinenkugels Sunset Wheat?

i haven't-- i've never been much of a fan of wheat beers. . . .


i know i've had some of the other leinenkugels, but i can't remember which ones. . . .

[MOtorboat]

i live here in gunnison, and it's crazy the amount of PBR this town consumes... i worked at the recycling center (coughcommunityservicecough) and every load of cans that we had to sort was at least 50% PBR.

which sucks, because i like busch and only one store here sells it...

You don't go to Western, do you?

[frauschieze]

dog have you ever had leinenkugels Sunset Wheat?

I am fairly certain that this is the beer that was served to me fruited when I was in North Carolina last year.

Orange slices in my beer.......:mad: I ranted about this on the Freak.

[Slick]

Dear Slick,

I am on my way to your house for dinner and drinks. Please leave the light on for me.

Yours truly,
Cheese

Nobody is ever on time here in Mexico. :lol: 5 mexican minutes is like an hour and a half.

There's a spot here for you Frau.

Good thing I started with beer.

[dogfish]

I am fairly certain that this is the beer that was served to me fruited when I was in North Carolina last year.

Orange slices in my beer.......:mad: I ranted about this on the Freak.

it's pretty standard to serve heffeweizens with citrus fruit-- can't say that i've ever been a big fan. . .

[shank]

i haven't-- i've never been much of a fan of wheat beers. . . .


i know i've had some of the other leinenkugels, but i can't remember which ones. . . .

oh. i'm obsessed with the sunset wheat because it tastes exactly like fruity pebbles, the cereal. it's like drinking the twilight zone...

[frauschieze]

it's pretty standard to serve heffeweizens with citrus fruit-- can't say that i've ever been a big fan. . .

Standard-smandard. That entire bar was fruity, orange slices aside.

[frauschieze]

Nobody is ever on time here in Mexico. :lol: 5 mexican minutes is like an hour and a half.

There's a spot here for you Frau.

Good thing I started with beer.

Fantastic. I'll be there in.....four days? Maybe five.

Where the heck are you again?

[shank]

You don't go to Western, do you?

i do indeed, fine sir.

[shank]

the BEER THREAD!!! theme song:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3Y39JehmZO4

[frauschieze]

the BEER THREAD!!! theme song:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3Y39JehmZO4

Psychostick is awesome.

[MOtorboat]

i do indeed, fine sir.

I went to Chadron...We OWN you at football :D.

[shank]

I went to Chadron...We OWN you at football :D.

everyone owns us at football...






HAHA, you're average again!

[MOtorboat]

everyone owns us at football...






HAHA, you're average again!

:D Two Harlon Hills say we aren't:

http://www.durangoherald.com/sports/06/images/sports061015_2a.jpg

[Reidman]

Paulaner Salvator dopple bock...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Beer-Paulaner-Salvator-Doppelbock.jpg/450px-Beer-Paulaner-Salvator-Doppelbock.jpg

Paid 2.89 for a 1 pint bottle at Fred Meyer.

I'm not really familiar with the dopple bock style as I rarely drink them but as I was standing in the beer aisle, my curiosity lead me from my usual suspects to something more mysterious...

Poured a mahogany color (Much darker than the picture here) but still very clear with very little head and no lacing at all...Very earthy smelling with subtle hints of sweetness...should be interesting..

Taste was exceptional...wow! I wasn't expecting this, raisins, caramel, and nuts almost in the tradition of a nut brown ale but not as prevalent. A somewhat smoky flavor which I presume is from some roasted malts in there and plenty of crystal malt to lend sweetness. Moderately complex and subtle bitterness from the hops but well balanced...very tasty!

This brew has a very light body despite it's dark color which makes it easily drinkable. Not a bruiser by any means at 8% abv but a few of these could sneak up on you due to it's drinkability.

My initial reaction was "why didn't I buy more of these..?"....:lol: I highly recommend this brew if it's in your area. I know I'll be picking up a few more in the near future.

[shank]

reid, you're like some sort of connoisseur

[CoachChaz]

Paulaner Salvator dopple bock...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Beer-Paulaner-Salvator-Doppelbock.jpg/450px-Beer-Paulaner-Salvator-Doppelbock.jpg

Paid 2.89 for a 1 pint bottle at Fred Meyer.

I'm not really familiar with the dopple bock style as I rarely drink them but as I was standing in the beer aisle, my curiosity lead me from my usual suspects to something more mysterious...

Poured a mahogany color (Much darker than the picture here) but still very clear with very little head and no lacing at all...Very earthy smelling with subtle hints of sweetness...should be interesting..

Taste was exceptional...wow! I wasn't expecting this, raisins, caramel, and nuts almost in the tradition of a nut brown ale but not as prevalent. A somewhat smoky flavor which I presume is from some roasted malts in there and plenty of crystal malt to lend sweetness. Moderately complex and subtle bitterness from the hops but well balanced...very tasty!

This brew has a very light body despite it's dark color which makes it easily drinkable. Not a bruiser by any means at 8% abv but a few of these could sneak up on you due to it's drinkability.

My initial reaction was "why didn't I buy more of these..?"....:lol: I highly recommend this brew if it's in your area. I know I'll be picking up a few more in the near future.

Dopple Bock simply means double bock...or double the malt. Most double bocks run between 7.5 and 10% Go ahead and knock back 3 of the Salvators and call it a night.

[Timmy!]

http://www.nwmicrobrews.com/New_Belgium/Springboard_Ale.jpg

http://www.bigskybrew.com/_img/moose.gif

Possibly the 2 greatest beers known to man. If you can find them, you'll understand.

[SM19]

I actually had the Springboard recently and was kind of disappointed. I guess I just didn't care much for the spices in it. I definitely prefer Fat Tire, but I'm looking to try some other beers from that brewery, specifically their 1554.

My beer of the moment is Abita Turbodog, probably my favorite of the domestics I've had to date.

http://www.sevenpack.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/AbitTurbodog.jpg

[dogfish]

I actually had the Springboard recently and was kind of disappointed. I guess I just didn't care much for the spices in it. I definitely prefer Fat Tire, but I'm looking to try some other beers from that brewery, specifically their 1554.

My beer of the moment is Abita Turbodog, probably my favorite of the domestics I've had to date.

http://www.sevenpack.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/AbitTurbodog.jpg

good call-- of the ones i've had, i think 1554 is probably their best brew. . . you should try the tripel and the abbey ale as well. . . their biere de mars seasonal is another good one, and their blue paddle is one of the best pilsners i've had. . .

i've you're interested in american "belgian style" beers, i can recommend some others as well. . . angry monk by redfish brewery, and pretty much anything by new holland brewing company or brewery ommegang-- especially their three philosophers, which is spiced ale blended with lambic, or their chocolate indulgence. . . but IMO, by far the best american belgian style beers are brewed by avery-- they're a brewery in boulder, one of my two favorites. . . their reverend is an exceptional quadrupel style, and the beast (which i'm sure i've mentioned to you before) is a grand cru, possibly the most intense beer i've ever drank. . .


:beer:



okay, i hope you're making a list. . . . :lol:

[CoachChaz]

I've got to find me one of those grand cru's

[dogfish]

I've got to find me one of those grand cru's

yes, you do-- it is freakin' unbelievable!

it's pricey, but you can order them here (http://beergeek.stores.yahoo.net/usmicroale.html) . . . .

[Reidman]

yes, you do-- it is freakin' unbelievable!

it's pricey, but you can order them here (http://beergeek.stores.yahoo.net/usmicroale.html) . . . .

HA! I've got one sitting in my beer fridge, aging for a special occasion. There have been numerous times where I've wanted to break into it but I want a clear mind and no distractions when I drink that puppy....:beer: Same thing with the Meph stout.

Had a Rogue chocolate stout last night. It was ok, I've had better. I thought it would be more chocolaty, but the dark malts overpowered. I still prefer My old friend Rasputin when it comes to stouts...yumm!

[dogfish]

HA! I've got one sitting in my beer fridge, aging for a special occasion. There have been numerous times where I've wanted to break into it but I want a clear mind and no distractions when I drink that puppy....:beer: Same thing with the Meph stout.

Had a Rogue chocolate stout last night. It was ok, I've had better. I thought it would be more chocolaty, but the dark malts overpowered. I still prefer My old friend Rasputin when it comes to stouts...yumm!

have you had a beast yet?



i've got five 22oz bottles of the '04 in my basement. . . . :werd:

[Reidman]

have you had a beast yet?



i've got five 22oz bottles of the '04 in my basement. . . . :werd:

No not yet, that's why it's so hard to save the one I got...:elefant:

Hmmm...04' ought to be ready to drink by now, don't you think...?

The bottle I have is 06' I think...also have a bottle of Mephistopheles stout and a 120 I've been hording, trying to age...

[dogfish]

No not yet, that's why it's so hard to save the one I got...:elefant:

Hmmm...04' ought to be ready to drink by now, don't you think...?

The bottle I have is 06' I think...also have a bottle of Mephistopheles stout and a 120 I've been hording, trying to age...

oh, it's definitely ready-- i had a dozen of them, so i've been slowly parcelling them out. . . it's not exactly an every day drinker anyways!

i frickin' looooove that mephistopheles-- that is some serious good shit! i wouldn't age that one, though-- i'm not convinced that the sweeter stouts really age all that well. . . you should crack that bad boy open tonight!

[Reidman]

oh, it's definitely ready-- i had a dozen of them, so i've been slowly parcelling them out. . . it's not exactly an every day drinker anyways!

i frickin' looooove that mephistopheles-- that is some serious good shit! i wouldn't age that one, though-- i'm not convinced that the sweeter stouts really age all that well. . . you should crack that bad boy open tonight!

Hmmm..don't tempt me...:beer:

[dogfish]

Hmmm..don't tempt me...:beer:

nah dude, let yourself be tempted-- patience isn't always a virtue, and that beer will never be better than it is right now. . . . you know you wanna drink it. . . .

[NameUsedBefore]

I like my drinks girly and easy:


http://www.beveragewarehouse.com/images/products/2946.gif

[SM19]

okay, i hope you're making a list. . . . :lol:

Always! :D

And yeah, you've told me about the The Beast. Unfortunately I haven't seen it in this area and would probably have to order it to get it at all. My next buy will probably be either the 1554, as mentioned, or Abita's Fleur-de-lis Restoration Ale, which I've had my eye on for awhile. Given the dense pile of work I have to do over the next week and a half though, I don't think I'll be drinking much of anything in the near future. :sad:

[lex]

it's pretty standard to serve heffeweizens with citrus fruit-- can't say that i've ever been a big fan. . .

Something that isnt too bad is Cola-Wiezen. Dont knock it until you rock it.

[SM19]

I've got a delicate beer-related balancing act that I thought I'd present to the beer thread for consideration. I'll be hosting a pre-party for members of my copy editing staff this Friday. I expect the turnout will be a dozen or fewer, so a case should be plenty in addition to the liquor that I'll ask the other editors to bring. The desk as a whole is roughy two-thirds female, if that makes any difference. The beer chosen needs to be:

1) Available in cases in northern Chicagoland. I'm on a budget, and I won't be buying that much beer in individual six-packs if I can't expect to drink all of them.
2) At or below 5% ABV, with a little margin for error. The last thing I need is for people who aren't used to stronger beers to get ahead of themselves.
3) Not Corona, Heineken, any of your entry-level American macrobrews, or anything comparable. My staff did a great job this quarter, they deserve better.
4) Accessible. Stouts, porters, and the hoppier pale ales are probably not good choices, as I think I'm the only one in the group who tries these on a regular basis. Lagers, witbiers, and possibly blonde or milder pale ales are likely to be more to the taste of this crowd.

Current candidates include Harp, Smithwick's (one of my fellow editors loves this beer), Dos Equis, Goose Island 312, Blue Moon (slightly outside the ABV range but a local favorite), Samuel Adams Boston Lager, and maybe Fat Tire (though I'm not sure how accessible it is compared to the others and it's marginally outside my preferred ABV range).

To summarize, I'm looking for a beer that I can buy in reasonable quantity, that people can drink at my place without having a problem continuing their drinking somewhere else later on that night, and that people will enjoy and appreciate as better than the usual even if they haven't had any exposure to great beers. Thoughts?

[dogfish]

I've got a delicate beer-related balancing act that I thought I'd present to the beer thread for consideration. I'll be hosting a pre-party for members of my copy editing staff this Friday. I expect the turnout will be a dozen or fewer, so a case should be plenty in addition to the liquor that I'll ask the other editors to bring. The desk as a whole is roughy two-thirds female, if that makes any difference. The beer chosen needs to be:

1) Available in cases in northern Chicagoland. I'm on a budget, and I won't be buying that much beer in individual six-packs if I can't expect to drink all of them.
2) At or below 5% ABV, with a little margin for error. The last thing I need is for people who aren't used to stronger beers to get ahead of themselves.
3) Not Corona, Heineken, any of your entry-level American macrobrews, or anything comparable. My staff did a great job this quarter, they deserve better.
4) Accessible. Stouts, porters, and the hoppier pale ales are probably not good choices, as I think I'm the only one in the group who tries these on a regular basis. Lagers, witbiers, and possibly blonde or milder pale ales are likely to be more to the taste of this crowd.

Current candidates include Harp, Smithwick's (one of my fellow editors loves this beer), Dos Equis, Goose Island 312, Blue Moon (slightly outside the ABV range but a local favorite), Samuel Adams Boston Lager, and maybe Fat Tire (though I'm not sure how accessible it is compared to the others and it's marginally outside my preferred ABV range).

To summarize, I'm looking for a beer that I can buy in reasonable quantity, that people can drink at my place without having a problem continuing their drinking somewhere else later on that night, and that people will enjoy and appreciate as better than the usual even if they haven't had any exposure to great beers. Thoughts?


i would see if you can find new belgium's blue paddle pilsner. . . it's light in complexion and very drinkable-- it's not going to be considered extreme, even by the beer novice-- but IMO is far better than old standbys like heineken and corona. . . also, i don't know if great lakes beers are available as far west as chicago, but i'm betting that they probably are-- if so, i would highly recommend their burning river pale ale. . . it's moderately more hoppy than your garden variety pale, but not so much so as to be offensive to an inexperienced palate. . . . it's extremely citrusy, and just plain good. . . .

if you want a lager, grolsch might be a bit more adventuresome than heinny. . . i'm not sure about it's ABV, but hoegarrden (sp?) is a nice, smooth belgian-style white ale (brewed from wheat). . . .

and if you're buying sixers, there's no reason you can't get a variety instead of four of the same. . . .

[SM19]

Well, buying four separate sixers on my student budget is exactly what I'm hoping to avoid, especially since I'll also be buying some liquor and be expected to contribute to the main party fund. I don't want to be cheap, mind you, but all that starts to add up! Two different twelve-packs might be an option.

I've seen the Great Lakes beers even in stores with limited selections here, so I'll look out for that pale ale, as well as for the Blue Paddle and Grolsch. Hoegaarden I've had on several occasions and enjoyed, but it may be limited to sixers here.

[dogfish]

Well, buying four separate sixers on my student budget is exactly what I'm hoping to avoid, especially since I'll also be buying some liquor and be expected to contribute to the main party fund. I don't want to be cheap, mind you, but all that starts to add up! Two different twelve-packs might be an option.

I've seen the Great Lakes beers even in stores with limited selections here, so I'll look out for that pale ale, as well as for the Blue Paddle and Grolsch. Hoegaarden I've had on several occasions and enjoyed, but it may be limited to sixers here.

understandable. . . let us know how it works out-- the more active this thread is, the happier i am. . . .


:beer:

[shank]

is odell out there in chicagoland?

i don't think you can go wrong with easy street.

or one of my favorites, Levity from Odell.

i don't know how to describe beer, so i copied this:


Modest body, full malt palate … light and delicate. Smooth mouth feel with a light carbonation after a judicious pour. Bitterness from hops are straight forward and cut through at bit and clean things up. Sweet malt up front with a lingering light toasted and caramel flavour the stretches even to the finish. Pear like fruitiness mingles with the spicy herbal hop flavour. Hops and malt go hand in hand into a long lasting finish.

i don't know if they have cases... might only be available in six packs, but it's delicious, accessible, and right at 5% abv

[shank]

my very young cap collection:

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j73/shawshank24/0117081718.jpg

forgive the abundance of bud light.

[Timmy!]

my very young cap collection:

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j73/shawshank24/0117081718.jpg

forgive the abundance of bud light.

Double salute. One for the collection, and 1 for apologizing for the bud light.

That's a very nice start. Around 5 years ago 3 buddies and I collected caps all summer. It filled a 15 gallon fish tank almost to the top. We were tying to find something original to do with all of them they were "accidentally" thrown away by a spiteful woman.........

[MOtorboat]

forgive the abundance of bud light.

There's absolutely no reason to forgive someone for an abundance of bud light...none...at all...:elefant::elefant:

[broncogirl7]

my very young cap collection:

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j73/shawshank24/0117081718.jpg

forgive the abundance of bud light.

That would make a great table top if you enclose it in some resin. Great for the game room.

[LoyalSoldier]

Personally I am more of a wine guy and even though I am not the get drunk kind I can always appreciate a good beer. The best one I had was from a smaller brewer in Germany. It doesn't export the beer, but that was a very good beer.

[shank]

Double salute. One for the collection, and 1 for apologizing for the bud light.

That's a very nice start. Around 5 years ago 3 buddies and I collected caps all summer. It filled a 15 gallon fish tank almost to the top. We were tying to find something original to do with all of them they were "accidentally" thrown away by a spiteful woman.........

that's insane. mine is a little over a year in the making, but i must inform you that i'm a poor college student and mostly drink canned beer. mine started as a collection of a few caps so that we could play 'caps' the drinking game whenever we wanted to, and at some point i found a bag and just kept em all...


There's absolutely no reason to forgive someone for an abundance of bud light...none...at all...:elefant::elefant:

my brother is a bud light drinker. he buys more often then i do... (^^ i'm broke!) and he always gets a 20 pack of bl and a 12 pack of good beer... plus, i ONLY save caps that are pristine, and a lot of my friends really suck at getting a pop-top off without fukking up the cap, so the twist-offs all get saved...


That would make a great table top if you enclose it in some resin. Great for the game room.

that's what i was thinking... a friend of mine has a coffee table made of caps she got from a brewery and resin and it looks great. i have enough for a coffee table, but my ultimate goal is a beerpong table... it'll be a little while longer!

[Thnikkaman]

My palette is still in training, but I have this to offer to the beer thread:
http://www.millstreambrewing.com/images/stoutlabel.jpghttp://www.millstreambrewing.com/images/stoutglass.jpg
Colony Oatmeal Stout used to be just a winter seasonal brew when it first was introduced back in 1996. But since then popular demand has made it into an all year affair. The 'oatmeal' in the name is due the 10% oatmeal in the the grist of this brew. Oats give beer a real thick mouthfeel, something definitely desirable in a stout! But the real secret is in our lager yeast. Most stouts are made using ale yeast, but we wanted ours to be a smooth as our lagers! Black malt and roasted barley give the beer its color, and coffee-like flavors. If you like thick full-bodied stout, this beer is for you! We now only make the Stout in the colder months, because that is when it is the most popular. In the winter, you'll find it in stores in its own 'stout' packaging.

[dogfish]

oatmeal stouts are tasty! breckinridge brewery and sam smith both make excellent versions. . . .

[CoachChaz]

oatmeal stouts are tasty! breckinridge brewery and sam smith both make excellent versions. . . .

I wasn't impressed with the Breckenridge...seemed a little watery. However, the Sam Smith is awesome. Young's is very good...but Goose Island is one of the best I've had

[tubby]

I wasn't impressed with the Breckenridge...seemed a little watery. However, the Sam Smith is awesome. Young's is very good...but Goose Island is one of the best I've had

Have you tried 90 Schilling yet, Coach?

[dogfish]

I wasn't impressed with the Breckenridge...seemed a little watery. However, the Sam Smith is awesome. Young's is very good...but Goose Island is one of the best I've had

i've never had the young's, i should probably try it some time-- how does it compare to their chocolate?

[CoachChaz]

i've never had the young's, i should probably try it some time-- how does it compare to their chocolate?

I'm not a big fan of chocolate stout, but Young's is good. The oatmeal stout is really nice as well. Not the best, but a solid beer.

[CoachChaz]

Have you tried 90 Schilling yet, Coach?

Haven't had the 90 yet. Right now I have a small list that I'm trying to get my hands on without getting raked.

Mikkeller Beer Geek Breakfast - an actual breakfast beer with a coffee flavor.

Bells Kalamazoo Stout

Scotch Irish Corporal Punishment - Canadian Brown Ale

Surly Darkness - Imperial Stout

[Thnikkaman]

i've never had the young's, i should probably try it some time-- how does it compare to their chocolate?

That reminds me of a bar I used to go to here in Iowa City that was called Fitspatricks that no longer exists that made a very tasty Otmeal Stout. They used to do $0.25 tacos and $1.50 pints of their microbrews. One of the few good bars here in a ton of crappy dives.

[CoachChaz]

That reminds me of a bar I used to go to here in Iowa City that was called Fitspatricks that no longer exists that made a very tasty Otmeal Stout. They used to do $0.25 tacos and $1.50 pints of their microbrews. One of the few good bars here in a ton of crappy dives.

Was it actually one of their microbrews? I see so many places that sell other stuff and have fake brewing equipment in the facility filled with colored water to give that impression. Never know who to believe anymore.

[NightTrainLayne]

Was it actually one of their microbrews? I see so many places that sell other stuff and have fake brewing equipment in the facility filled with colored water to give that impression. Never know who to believe anymore.

Are you kidding? Man, if I went into a microbrewery that tried to pull that I think I'd file a class-action lawsuit. That's criminal! :beer:

[CoachChaz]

Are you kidding? Man, if I went into a microbrewery that tried to pull that I think I'd file a class-action lawsuit. That's criminal! :beer:

Most of them do it. The fake brewing equipment that you can see is just for show. The best proof is to see if you can find any employees around the stuff when you are there. If they were brewing their own recipes on sight...wouldn't they have a few people nearby to actually do it?

[NightTrainLayne]

Most of them do it. The fake brewing equipment that you can see is just for show. The best proof is to see if you can find any employees around the stuff when you are there. If they were brewing their own recipes on sight...wouldn't they have a few people nearby to actually do it?

I haven't experienced that yet. The ones that I frequent do actually brew their own, but I'm not surprised. I've probably been in one that didn't brew it's own and didn't catch it.

[dogfish]

speaking of brewpubs. . . any of you denver residents ever tried the bull and bush? if not, you really should-- that place freakin' rocks! their brown ale and their IPA are both killer, and they brew a heffeweisen that the ladies love. . . they do imperial versions of both the brown and the IPA at least once a year, and they're fantastic. . . and their food is at the top end of the "bar food" spectrum. . .

[cpr940]

I recently tried Paulaner Dopplebock.


And was intrigued enough to also try their Hefewiezen....on tap, no less. This was one old school, authentic European style pub.


These are sweeter and served warmer than the brews with the same name typically found in the U.S.


I must say though, I liked them. A lot. I will see if I can try all of their varieties.

[Thnikkaman]

Just popped the cap off of a New Belgium Brewery (famous for fat tire) 1554 Brussels Style Black Ale, and I am enjoying it thoroughly.

[dogfish]

Just popped the cap off of a New Belgium Brewery (famous for fat tire) 1554 Brussels Style Black Ale, and I am enjoying it thoroughly.

good stuff!

[Thnikkaman]

good stuff!

I think it was a little too cold when I started drinking it. I think it has warmed up to about 50 degrees right now, and I am beginning to enjoy the depth of the beer. I need to train myself on the different flavors of hopps, malt, grain, and yeast, and I think that I will really enjoy my beer that much more. I really hope to brew my own someday.

[dogfish]

I think it was a little too cold when I started drinking it. I think it has warmed up to about 50 degrees right now, and I am beginning to enjoy the depth of the beer. I need to train myself on the different flavors of hopps, malt, grain, and yeast, and I think that I will really enjoy my beer that much more. I really hope to brew my own someday.

a lot of the darker beers are best served at cellar temperature (which i believe is around 54, not sure exactly)-- you can taste the malt flavors better when it's not quite as cold. . .

[Reidman]

Good beer is best served 45-50 degrees...

Cold kills flavor, that's why Bud, Miller and Coors advertise their beer ice cold...

[dogfish]

mojo risin' double IPA by boulder beer


i love this stuff for two reasons-- because it's name derives from one of the doors' best songs, and even more because it kicks ass. . . an extremely dry IPA with just a hint of skunkiness. . . drier than the desert. . . solid but not overwhelming hop punch (the label says they use amarillo hops)with distinct citrus notes, and just a touch of spice in the finish. . . very subtle underlying sweetness--almost a raisiny flavor in the aftertaste. . . the beer is 10% ABV, but the hops definitely dominate the barley in this one. . . overall, quite a pleasant offering of my favorite style of brew. . . did i mention how dry it is? always leaves me thirsty for another one. . .



:beer: :beer:

[SM19]

Never did get back to this thread with the results of my party... opted for just the Blue Moon and it was a hit.

Tried a nice diverse group of new beers Wednesday and Thursday... the Young's Chocolate Stout, Franziskaner Weiss, Czechvar, and Boddington's Pub Ale. All pretty good. The Czechvar was better than most of the other pilseners I've had, maybe all of them.

In Florida for spring break, so it'll be interesting to see what they serve in this part of the country.

[dogfish]

few things beat walking into the store and finding out that your favorite brewery has a new offering, so i was pretty happy to see dogfish head's new limited edition, palo santo marron. . . this is the description on the label:


An unfiltered, unfettered, unprecedented brown ale aged in handmade wooden brewing vessels. The caramel and vanilla complexity unique to this ale comes from the exotic Paraguyan Palo Santo wood from which these tanks were crafted. At 10,000 gallons each, these are the largest wooden brewing vessels built in America since before Prohibition. It's all very exciting. We have wood. Now you do too.


:laugh:

an exceptionally big ale, this is a brown only by the very loosest definition of the term. . . so dark and thick it makes any porter i've ever had look like a punk in comparison, and it packs a pretty good whallop at 12% ABV. . . a serious sipper that it's almost impossible to chug. . . the previously mentioned caramel and vanilla notes float on a bath of smokey, almost ashy wood flavor and mocha bitterness. . . at first i thought it was similar to their indian brown ale, but the hops are very muted in this one, and it leaves a rich, lingering aftertaste. . . a very good ale that you wouldn't want to drink every day-- and probably couldn't afford to unless you're independently wealthy. . . excellent addition to their line, though. . .


:beer: :beer: :beer:

[SM19]

Just tried a Breckenridge Avalanche Ale, one of a make-your-own six pack I put together at World Market. It's not exactly bad, but I can't say I prefer it to the very similar Fat Tire. A little too coppery-smelling, and a bit of a weird balance between the flavors.

[dogfish]

Just tried a Breckenridge Avalanche Ale, one of a make-your-own six pack I put together and World Market. It's not exactly bad, but I can't say I prefer it to the very similar Fat Tire. A little too coppery-smelling, and a bit of a weird balance between the flavors.

i always thought the avalance was decent-- nothing special, but it's a solid, drinkable beer if you can't get something better. . . i drank quite a few of them at the pepsi center-- usually at avs games, appropriately enough. . . :laugh:

[Timmy!]

Avalanche is good stuff, but I tend to like most of New Belgiums brews better.

[shank]

you won't catch me turning down an avalanche

[DenverBronkHoes]

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/1/14/640616/image001.jpg

[SM19]

you won't catch me turning down an avalanche

Yeah, like I said, it's not exactly that I dislike it. I like that style in general, which helps, and I'd probably still take it over most of the usual suspects around here.

May open the Dogfish 90 Minute tonight. I've been hearing about it for a long time and still haven't had one myself. I know our own dogfish is a big fan. :D

[dogfish]

Yeah, like I said, it's not exactly that I dislike it. I like that style in general, which helps, and I'd probably still take it over most of the usual suspects around here.

May open the Dogfish 90 Minute tonight. I've been hearing about it for a long time and still haven't had one myself. I know our own dogfish is a big fan. :D

goes without saying. . . :lol:


let me know what you think of it. . .

[shank]

coors light and guiness.

i'm thirsty and can't decide.

EDIT: chose coors light. i just ate dinner, and don't have room for a 2nd meal (guiness).

[Dreadnought]

Just found out my local Beer center stocks Dogfish...any specific recommendations?

Also, my wife told me today (she had to for various reasons) she is throwing me a belated birthday bash at a local microbrewery this Saturday! Gawd I love her!

[dogfish]

Just found out my local Beer center stocks Dogfish...any specific recommendations?

Also, my wife told me today (she had to for various reasons) she is throwing me a belated birthday bash at a local microbrewery this Saturday! Gawd I love her!

yes, i recommend getting lots of it. . . .


:laugh:


the 60 minute IPA is one of their standards-- still very good, but less extreme than some of their other brews, and a solid introduction. . . the 90 minute IPA is a classic, but IMO the barley overwhelms the hops a little, leaving it less hoppy than it'd prefer for a big IPA. . . the 120 minute IPA is ungodly expensive, but one of my all-time favorites-- it's a whopping 120+ IBUs and 23% ABV, making it one of the biggest beers ever brewed. . . the indian brown is IMO the best brown ale on the planet-- that one is the beer that first made me fall in love with dogfish head. . .

the worldwide stout is another ridiculously strong, expensive, over-the-top brew that i would highly recommend if you're big on stouts. . . and the new limited edition, the palo santo marron that i mentioned a few posts back, is very interesting. . .


i'd say that you can't go wrong with the 60 minute IPA and the indian brown as your introduction, unless they have the 120 and you feel like you're ready to go for the gusto right off the bat, so to speak. . .

definitely let me know what you decide on and how you like them!


:beer: :beer:



and i don't know if you get avery beers that far east, but keep an eye out for the maharaja imperial IPA-- one of the best beers i've ever drank, and they just came out with this year's batch. . . .



and enjoy your belated bash!

[Reidman]

.......the maharaja imperial IPA. . . .


I was reading your post and got distracted by this....

Yeah, one of the best I've ever had as well...but it's like a hot girl you meet or see in a crowd and when she's gone you spend your whole life looking for her but never find her again........:lol:

[dogfish]

I was reading your post and got distracted by this....

Yeah, one of the best I've ever had as well...but it's like a hot girl you meet or see in a crowd and when she's gone you spend your whole life looking for her but never find her again........:lol:

nah man, it comes out every february. . . . :lol:


:beer: :beer: :beer:

[claymore]

Just found out my local Beer center stocks Dogfish...any specific recommendations?

Also, my wife told me today (she had to for various reasons) she is throwing me a belated birthday bash at a local microbrewery this Saturday! Gawd I love her!Does she know my address for the Invite?

[CoachChaz]

Just found out my local Beer center stocks Dogfish...any specific recommendations?

Also, my wife told me today (she had to for various reasons) she is throwing me a belated birthday bash at a local microbrewery this Saturday! Gawd I love her!

Assuming they only carry the basic Dogfish line, I'd go with the 90.

[CoachChaz]

the indian brown is IMO the best brown ale on the planet-- that one is the beer that first made me fall in love with dogfish head. . .

and the new limited edition, the palo santo marron that i mentioned a few posts back, is very interesting. . .



The Marron is probably a better Brown IMO and has a ridiculous ABV, but the best American Brown I've ever had was Bender. The extremely surprising thing about it's quality is that it comes in a can. It's by far the best American Brown...which happens to be my favorite style.

[Dreadnought]

Does she know my address for the Invite?

If you can get your Happy Ass to Albany at 2 PM this Saturday, it is at the Albany Pump Station on Spencer Street. You can consider yourself invited BFF.:beer:

[dogfish]

The Marron is probably a better Brown IMO and has a ridiculous ABV, but the best American Brown I've ever had was Bender. The extremely surprising thing about it's quality is that it comes in a can. It's by far the best American Brown...which happens to be my favorite style.

bender, huh? i like the name, anyways. . . :lol:


i've never seen it, but if i ever do i'll grab some. . .

[Dreadnought]

Just finished a bottle of Dogfish 60 minute IPA. That was Mighty Fine, I've gotta say. They stocked the 120 Minute IPA at my local store - at a startling $8.99 a bottle! I'll treat myself to one each time we beat an AFC West opponent next year. I'm hoping to be out $53.94 by the end of the Year.

[shank]

you IPA guys;

did you always like it or was it an acquired taste?

because i love most beers, but the IPA's or other really hoppy beers are just not appealing to me. not refreshing in any way, just bitter and sour (i don't know proper beer terminology...)

should i just force feed myself until i convince my body i like it? you all talk about your favorite beers and a lot of them are IPA or uber-hops...

[dogfish]

Just finished a bottle of Dogfish 60 minute IPA. That was Mighty Fine, I've gotta say. They stocked the 120 Minute IPA at my local store - at a startling $8.99 a bottle! I'll treat myself to one each time we beat an AFC West opponent next year. I'm hoping to be out $53.94 by the end of the Year.

did you pick up anything else?



don't wait on the 120-- it's a seasonal, and it probably won't be available during football season. . . why not buy one now and drink it on draft day?


:beer: :beer:

[Dreadnought]

you IPA guys;

did you always like it or was it an acquired taste?

because i love most beers, but the IPA's or other really hoppy beers are just not appealing to me. not refreshing in any way, just bitter and sour (i don't know proper beer terminology...)

should i just force feed myself until i convince my body i like it? you all talk about your favorite beers and a lot of them are IPA or uber-hops...

I think it may be somewhat acquired. I've always liked Pale Ales, but at first a few of the IPA's seemed a bit over the top. As time went by, I found I really liked them more and more, the hoppier the better.

You don't get bonus points for drinking IPA's though - there's no moral component! If you like Lagers, Stouts, Weissbiers, what have you, its all good. Myself I don't like Stouts and Porters even a little bit, so I don't drink them.

[dogfish]

you IPA guys;

did you always like it or was it an acquired taste?

because i love most beers, but the IPA's or other really hoppy beers are just not appealing to me. not refreshing in any way, just bitter and sour (i don't know proper beer terminology...)

should i just force feed myself until i convince my body i like it? you all talk about your favorite beers and a lot of them are IPA or uber-hops...

yes, as a matter of fact it WAS an acquired taste. . . i pretty much started drinking good beer (okay, acceptable beer-- the first beers i liked were probably dos equis and heineken)-- i've never liked american schwill, but for years my favorites were sweeter, darker beers like stouts and brown ales, maybe a few porters. . . as my beer horizons started to expand i was trying all kinds of different brews, but i honestly never liked IPAs all that much. . . as you say, they were too bitter for me. . .

i don't know how or why, but i just started liking them at some point. . . and now no other beers even comes close, and they don't make such as thing as a beer that's too bitter. . .


:beer:

[Thnikkaman]

yes, as a matter of fact it WAS an acquired taste. . . i pretty much started drinking good beer (okay, acceptable beer-- the first beers i liked were probably dos equis and heineken)-- i've never liked american schwill, but for years my favorites were sweeter, darker beers like stouts and brown ales, maybe a few porters. . . as my beer horizons started to expand i was trying all kinds of different brews, but i honestly never liked IPAs all that much. . . as you say, they were too bitter for me. . .

i don't know how or why, but i just started liking them at some point. . . and now no other beers even comes close, and they don't make such as thing as a beer that's too bitter. . .


:beer:


I am still at that stage where I am aquiring a taste for IPAs. Every once in a while, I just feel like I need an IPA.

[dogfish]

I am still at that stage where I am aquiring a taste for IPAs. Every once in a while, I just feel like I need an IPA.

that's where it starts. . . and before you know it, they're sleeping in your bed and borrowing your car, and your sweat smells like hops!


:beer:

[Thnikkaman]

that's where it starts. . . and before you know it, they're sleeping in your bed and borrowing your car, and your sweat smells like hops!


:beer:

Oooh. I can bottle that sweat, and use it in another IPA. :beer:

[SM19]

Never did drink that 90 Minute IPA... it's still sitting in my fridge. I'll drink it tomorrow night as part of my preparation for going out. Two birds with one stone, y'know.

[SM19]

The 90 Minute IPA was outstanding. Knowing nothing about the beer except what I knew of 'fish's tastes, I kind of expected to be overwhelmed with hops, but that wasn't the case at all; it's a very well-balanced IPA. I've probably mentioned before that this isn't nearly my favorite style of beer, but I'll definitely drink this one again.

[dogfish]

The 90 Minute IPA was outstanding. Knowing nothing about the beer except what I knew of 'fish's tastes, I kind of expected to be overwhelmed with hops, but that wasn't the case at all; it's a very well-balanced IPA. I've probably mentioned before that this isn't nearly my favorite style of beer, but I'll definitely drink this one again.

glad you liked it. . . it's a classic, one of the flagship beers of my favorite brewery. . .


:beer:

[Dreadnought]

I was just given a six pack each of Great Divide Denver Pale Ale and "Hazed and Confused" by Boulder Brewing. Any reviews of these two?

[MOtorboat]

I was just given a six pack each of Great Divide Denver Pale Ale and "Hazed and Confused" by Boulder Brewing. Any reviews of these two?

I've had Hazed and Confused. If memory serves, its a very fruity beer. It was OK, if I recall correctly.

[dogfish]

I was just given a six pack each of Great Divide Denver Pale Ale and "Hazed and Confused" by Boulder Brewing. Any reviews of these two?

i love hazed and infused, and i suspect that you will also-- it's a very crisp, bitey ale with plenty of hops. . . pretty much everything boulder brewing co. makes is quality IMO. . .


i've never had the denver pale ale, but great divide's titan IPA kicks ass-- i've got one of those in my fridge ATM. . . .


enjoy!



:beer:

[SM19]

Had a Belhaven St. Andrews Ale at the Knot tonight, one of the few remaining beers there that I hadn't tried. Positively delicious. Very much in line with my tastes specifically, but I'd recommend it to anyone.

Edit: And I'll thank you all to ignore the fact that I was at the pub on a Sunday night.

[dogfish]

Had a Belhaven St. Andrews Ale at the Knot tonight, one of the few remaining beers there that I hadn't tried. Positively delicious. Very much in line with my tastes specifically, but I'd recommend it to anyone.

Edit: And I'll thank you all to ignore the fact that I was at the pub on a Sunday night.

definitely one of the better scottish ales that i've had, although the style generally isn't among my favorites. . . i don't know what it is exactly, they have a distinctive flavor that i'm just not that fond of. . . probably has something to do with the grains they use. . . and i know some scottish ales are made with peat moss, which is kinda funky-- skullsplitter is a good example. . .

i used to drink the belhaven back when i was in college. . . it's been a while, but i remember it being smooth and creamy, without too much bite. . . have you ever had wexford's irish cream ale? if not, keep an eye out for it. . . .


http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/4249/wexfordsrj9.jpg

[SM19]

Can't recall having seen Wexford's anywhere. Not even EV1, which has by far the widest selection of beers in town. I might have to hope that that one shows up on some bar's spring beer list. Seems that when I lived in Ireland, I missed out on a lot by being ten years old. :lol:

Tonight's beer for the basketball championship (he's heating up!) was Ommegang Abbey Ale, which once again I really enjoyed. It's been a while since I've had Chimay Rouge or Westmalle Dubbel, but the Ommegang didn't seem markedly inferior to either of them. I'll probably buy it again in the future as a cost-effective alternative to the true Belgian dubbels. Bought a four-pack to share during the game... one to me, one to my friend and fellow beer explorer (who loved it), one to a girl who said that it wasn't bad but kind of reminded her of Worcestershire sauce (seriously?), and the remaining beer returned to my fridge for a later date.

I remember dogfish recommending me some other specific beers from this brewery, but unfortunately I've yet to see those on offer. If they're anywhere near as well done as this one, I look forward to trying them.

[dogfish]

Can't recall having seen Wexford's anywhere. Not even EV1, which has by far the widest selection of beers in town. I might have to hope that that one shows up on some bar's spring beer list.

Tonight's beer for the basketball championship (he's heating up!) was Ommegang Abbey Ale, which once again I really enjoyed. It's been a while since I've had Chimay Rouge or Westmalle Dubbel, but the Ommegang didn't seem markedly inferior to either of them. I'll probably buy it again in the future as a cost-effective alternative to the true Belgian dubbels. Bought a four-pack to share during the game... one to me, one to my friend and fellow beer explorer (who loved it), one to a girl who said that it wasn't bad but kind of reminded her of Worcestershire sauce (seriously?), and the remaining beer returned to my fridge for a later date.

I remember dogfish recommending me some other specific beers from this brewery, but unfortunately I've yet to see those on offer. If they're anywhere near as well done as this one, I look forward to trying them.



got a couple of those in the fridge myself. . . the other one i recommended was probably three philosophers-- it's a lambic blended with some other type of belgian-style ale (can't remember exactly what off the top of my head). . . makes a nice, light brew. . .

[SM19]

Thread search says that the other one you recommended specifically was their Chocolate Indulgence. I know I've enjoyed the chocolate stouts I've tried, and I have to think I'd get at least as much enjoyment out of a chocolate Belgian ale.

Someone else I know is a big fan of Ommegang Ommegeddon, any experience with that one?

[dogfish]

Thread search says that the other one you recommended specifically was their Chocolate Indulgence. I know I've enjoyed the chocolate stouts I've tried, and I have to think I'd get at least as much enjoyment out of a chocolate Belgian ale.

Someone else I know is a big fan of Ommegang Ommegeddon, any experience with that one?

ahh, that's right-- i forgot about the chocolate indulgence. . . damn good stuff! you should definitely grab a bottle of it. . .

i've been tempted to get the ommegeddon, but haven't tried that one as of yet-- i'm sure i will at some point. . . if you get one, let me know what you think of it. . . .



:beer:

[frauschieze]

Dear dogfish,

I am feeling particularly lazy so I ask you instead of attempting to look it up: What is the general difference between a hefeweizen and other wheat beers? Tonight, a friend of mine and I realized that while he likes hefes, I dislike almost all of them and he can't drink wheat beers but I rather like them. We have similar taste in beer otherwise, so it struck us as somewhat odd.

Also, I would gladly accept any of your recommendations. :D

Love always,
Cheese

[BroncoJoe]

Dear Cheese,

Find a new man.

Cordially,
BroncoJoe

[frauschieze]

Dear Cheese,

Find a new man.

Cordially,
BroncoJoe

Negatory, dear Joe. This one has been one of my best friends for 14 years. I think I'll keep him around as such. Plus, he's a hardcore Broncos fan. :defense:

[BroncoJoe]

Oh. Well then, OK. Please enjoy yourself, and give him my regards.

[Thnikkaman]

Dear Cheese,

Find a new man.

Cordially,
BroncoJoe

Hey Joe, I like your ejaculate & evacuate avatar. I go there all the time.

[Thnikkaman]

Dear dogfish,

I am feeling particularly lazy so I ask you instead of attempting to look it up: What is the general difference between a hefeweizen and other wheat beers? Tonight, a friend of mine and I realized that while he likes hefes, I dislike almost all of them and he can't drink wheat beers but I rather like them. We have similar taste in beer otherwise, so it struck us as somewhat odd.

Also, I would gladly accept any of your recommendations. :D

Love always,
Cheese

Hefeweizen is a German style of wheat beer in which the yeast is not filtered out. Though Kristallweizen (clear), Dunkelweizen (dark), and Weizenstarkbier or Weizenbock (higher alcohol content) varieties are available, they are not considered true hefeweizen unless left unfiltered. The filtration which takes the yeast out of Kristallweizen also strips the wheat proteins which make Hefeweizen cloudy.

Alternate terms for Hefeweizen include: Hefeweißbier, sometimes Weißbier, Hefeweiße, Weizenstarkbier (not necessarily a Hefeweizen unless left unfiltered)

The Hefeweizen style is particularly noted for its low hop bitterness (about 15 IBUs) and relatively high carbonation (approaching four atmospheres), considered important to balance the beer's relatively malty sweetness.

Another balancing flavour note unique to hefeweizen beer is its phenolic character; its signature phenol is 4-vinyl guaiacol, a metabolite of ferulic acid, the result of fermentation by ale yeast appropriate for the style. Hefeweizen's phenolic character has been described as "clove" and "medicinal" ("Band-aid") but also smoky. Other more typical but less assertive ale flavour notes include "banana" (amyl acetate) and sometimes "vanilla" (vanillin).

Some prominent commercial examples of Hefeweizen are produced by Paulaner, Erdinger, Schneider Weisse (original amber only), Franziskaner, Rothaus, Hacker-Pschorr, Ayinger (Bräu Weisse) and Weihenstephan. The style is nowadays drunk throughout Germany, but is especially popular in its Southern German homeland.

[dogfish]

i
Dear dogfish,

I am feeling particularly lazy so I ask you instead of attempting to look it up: What is the general difference between a hefeweizen and other wheat beers? Tonight, a friend of mine and I realized that while he likes hefes, I dislike almost all of them and he can't drink wheat beers but I rather like them. We have similar taste in beer otherwise, so it struck us as somewhat odd.

Also, I would gladly accept any of your recommendations. :D

Love always,
Cheese


dear cheese,

i pretty much don't know shit about wheat beer, so i'm glad thnikka answered that one. . .

tell me what kind of beer you do like, and i can give you some recommendations. . . .


love,

dogfish





:beer:

[frauschieze]

i


dear cheese,

i pretty much don't know shit about wheat beer, so i'm glad thnikka answered that one. . .

tell me what kind of beer you do like, and i can give you some recommendations. . . .


love,

dogfish





:beer:

I think Thnikka copy pasted from wikipedia. :D But I appreciate the answer all the same. I'm going to guess that I don't like yeast in my beer.

I have to say here that I am flat stunned that there is a 'genre' of beer you aren't an expert on. I seem to be liking wheat beers at the moment but I haven't had a large variety of them. I also recently tried and really liked Cold Smoke, which is a Scotch ale. I, of course, don't know what the hell makes an ale a 'Scotch' ale and was wondering if you could point me to any others.

[Dreadnought]

Quick follow up on one of my two Birthday Party beers, the "Hazed and Infused". Very enjoyable, tasty, hoppy, but not up to Dogfish 60 or Saranac Imperial IPA.

[Reidman]

I think Thnikka copy pasted from wikipedia. :D But I appreciate the answer all the same. I'm going to guess that I don't like yeast in my beer.

I have to say here that I am flat stunned that there is a 'genre' of beer you aren't an expert on. I seem to be liking wheat beers at the moment but I haven't had a large variety of them. I also recently tried and really liked Cold Smoke, which is a Scotch ale. I, of course, don't know what the hell makes an ale a 'Scotch' ale and was wondering if you could point me to any others.

Wow dog is human after all when it comes to beer....:eek:

Yeah, that blew me away too...

[Requiem / The Dagda]

I'm going to turn 21 on Saturday; any PM's with beverage advice or in this thread would be appreciated.

[CoachChaz]

I think Thnikka copy pasted from wikipedia. :D But I appreciate the answer all the same. I'm going to guess that I don't like yeast in my beer.

I have to say here that I am flat stunned that there is a 'genre' of beer you aren't an expert on. I seem to be liking wheat beers at the moment but I haven't had a large variety of them. I also recently tried and really liked Cold Smoke, which is a Scotch ale. I, of course, don't know what the hell makes an ale a 'Scotch' ale and was wondering if you could point me to any others.

A Scotch Ale is simply feremented in the same manner as regular Scotch, using smoked malts. Hence a beer with the name "Cold Smoke".

Sam Adams makes a REALLY nice Scotch Ale.


They also make a Weizen (wheat beer), but I'm not a big fan of weizens. They are a very hoppy beer and I usually just get a bloated feeling after a few of them, followed by 2 days of gas.

[MOtorboat]

What exactly is a heffenweizen, I always loved the special Michelob Heffenweizen that came out at Christmas. My buddy always brought a Christmas sampler home from the liquor store he worked at. We fought over the heffenweizen.

[frauschieze]

A Scotch Ale is simply feremented in the same manner as regular Scotch, using smoked malts. Hence a beer with the name "Cold Smoke".

Sam Adams makes a REALLY nice Scotch Ale.


They also make a Weizen (wheat beer), but I'm not a big fan of weizens. They are a very hoppy beer and I usually just get a bloated feeling after a few of them, followed by 2 days of gas.

I'll check it out the Sam Adams Scotch Ale.

As for the Weizen, I'm guessing it's unfiltered and therefore, not something I'll like. I think I'll pass.

:cheers:

[frauschieze]

What exactly is a heffenweizen, I always loved the special Michelob Heffenweizen that came out at Christmas. My buddy always brought a Christmas sampler home from the liquor store he worked at. We fought over the heffenweizen.

As Thnikka states above, a Hefeweizen is a wheat beer that does not have the yeast filtered out.

[MOtorboat]

As Thnikka states above, a Hefeweizen is a wheat beer that does not have the yeast filtered out.

Hey...look at that :2thumbs:

[CoachChaz]

There are two basic types. A Hefeweizen, which is a regular wheat beer and a Dunkelweizen, which is a darl wheat beer. It does have a higher "dosage" of yeast in it that you can typically see floating on the bottom...especially in home brewed versions. However, if a good beer is drank the way it's suppose to be...out of a glass...this will stir the yeast and add the flavor to the entire beer.

[frauschieze]

There are two basic types. A Hefeweizen, which is a regular wheat beer and a Dunkelweizen, which is a darl wheat beer. It does have a higher "dosage" of yeast in it that you can typically see floating on the bottom...especially in home brewed versions. However, if a good beer is drank the way it's suppose to be...out of a glass...this will stir the yeast and add the flavor to the entire beer.

Okay....so you seem to know about these.....what's the main difference then between a weizen and a witbeer? As far as I can tell, I really like the latter and greatly dislike the former.

[CoachChaz]

Okay....so you seem to know about these.....what's the main difference then between a weizen and a witbeer? As far as I can tell, I really like the latter and greatly dislike the former.

Witbier means "white beer". It's a very pale beer in color. It has all the sediment that a wheat beer has and is very hoppy and is high in carbon dioxide.

The main difference between the two is that a witbeer has more spices in it. Orage peel, etc.

[frauschieze]

Witbier means "white beer". It's a very pale beer in color. It has all the sediment that a wheat beer has and is very hoppy and is high in carbon dioxide.

The main difference between the two is that a witbeer has more spices in it. Orage peel, etc.

Huh. I need more beer schooling.

[CoachChaz]

Huh. I need more beer schooling.

It requires ALOT of reading...which can be boring. ALOT of testing...which is time consuming. ALOT of tasting...which isn't always as great as it sounds.

[frauschieze]

It requires ALOT of reading...which can be boring. ALOT of testing...which is time consuming. ALOT of tasting...which isn't always as great as it sounds.

I think I'll use this thread instead and taste test on the weekends. :cheers:

[CoachChaz]

I think I'll use this thread instead and taste test on the weekends. :cheers:

Taste tests can get expensive.

[frauschieze]

Taste tests can get expensive.

Why are you raining on my parade? :confused:

[Thnikkaman]

I would have posted my interpretation of the Wiki if I had the time, but Coach seems to be more knowlageable.

In the mean time, I am a big fan of this one:
http://www.blacksheepbrewery.com/images/Beers/bottles/bottles_holy.jpg

Hazy, honey golden hue with aromas of honey and earthy hops. Nice malt sweetness and subtle fruit and mineral notes on the palate balanced by refreshing bitterness. A solid English quaffer.

[SR]

I was at Sam's Club last weekend and picked up a case of Leinenkugel's veriety Weiss and wheat beers. It came with a Summer Shandy, Berry Weiss, Sunset Wheat, and Honey Weiss. They're all pretty tasty, except the Berry. It tastes a little too much like a wine cooler. The Honey Weiss tastes similar to the Sam Adams Honey Porter. The Summer Shandy is Weiss beer mixed with real lemonade and it's pretty good. The Sunset Wheat is badass though. It's got a fruity pebbles kind of taste to it, but it is still really good and really smooth.

[frauschieze]

I was at Sam's Club last weekend and picked up a case of Leinenkugel's veriety Weiss and wheat beers. It came with a Summer Shandy, Berry Weiss, Sunset Wheat, and Honey Weiss. They're all pretty tasty, except the Berry. It tastes a little too much like a wine cooler. The Honey Weiss tastes similar to the Sam Adams Honey Porter. The Summer Shandy is Weiss beer mixed with real lemonade and it's pretty good. The Sunset Wheat is badass though. It's got a fruity pebbles kind of taste to it, but it is still really good and really smooth.

Sunset Wheat is the orange slice beer from my trip to NC. I liked it. :salute:

[Dreadnought]

I think I'll use this thread instead and taste test on the weekends. :cheers:

Good plan. A bunch of these guys know a lot more than I do, for sure, and I'm picking their brains regularly here. This is like Beer Grad school, and its free.

[Reidman]

I never know what has been mentioned but I tried Sam Adams Black recently and was pleasantly surprised. It was like drinking a stout but with the smoothness of an ale. Burnt, roasted malts describes the flavor, and crisp! Maybe one of the few dark malted beers I could drink on a warm summer day.

I wish there were more offerings around where I live from these guys because they make some damn good beers!

[Jaws]

I never know what has been mentioned but I tried Sam Adams Black recently and was pleasantly surprised. It was like drinking a stout but with the smoothness of an ale. Burnt, roasted malts describes the flavor, and crisp! Maybe one of the few dark malted beers I could drink on a warm summer day.

I wish there were more offerings around where I live from these guys because they make some damn good beers!

Sounds quite similar to one of my favourite beers, one that's brewed locally by Purple Moose (Mws Piws) brewery, "dark side of the moose".

http://www.purplemoose.co.uk/pmb_the_beer_range_all_year.htm#Dark%20Side

[shank]

leinenkugel's sunset wheat; brought to you by kellogg's

[SM19]

I'd never heard of that Holy Grail before a few days ago, but now it seems to be popping up all over the place.

Tried an Austrian brew called Stieglbock last night and it was very tasty. Not by any means a "purist" beer, but I found it very unique, bold and sweet almost to the point of being dessert-like.

Now drinking Abita Fleur-de-lis Restoration Ale. Solid malt, milder hops than some of the other American pale ales I've had (Sierra Nevada, Anchor Liberty). This is a good beer, and a dollar of every six pack sale goes to help rebuild New Orleans. I bought this on the strength of some of Abita's other beers and I don't regret the purchase at all.

[CoachChaz]

Sam Adams is flat out awesome. I've had all 19 or 20 kinds and there are very few that I don't like. The black is great. I drink it pretty regularly.

The Holy Ale really surprised me when I first tried it. I find myself getting a bottle or two every time I hit my favorite microbrew store.

[NightTrainLayne]

On the other end of the color spectrum I took care of a six-pack of Sam Adams White this weekend.

I'm not usually a fan of wheat beers, but this is a wheat beer on steroids if you ask me. Lots of good spicy, full-bodied flavor that is usually missing in a lot of wheat beers (not all).

[CoachChaz]

On the other end of the color spectrum I took care of a six-pack of Sam Adams White this weekend.

I'm not usually a fan of wheat beers, but this is a wheat beer on steroids if you ask me. Lots of good spicy, full-bodied flavor that is usually missing in a lot of wheat beers (not all).

A Witbier is made similar to a Weizen, but made with the spices and citrus flavors. What you drank was not technically a wheat beer...hence the difference.

[Thnikkaman]

I don't know what it is about Sam Adams, but their beers have a really funky aftertaste that I can't get past. I don't know if its the yeast they use or what.

[claymore]

I don't know what it is about Sam Adams, but their beers have a really funky aftertaste that I can't get past. I don't know if its the yeast they use or what.I like most of them, but cannot stand the taste of the regular "Boston Lager". It tastes like acorns or something. Really bitter to me.

[Slick]

I split one of those mini Heinekin kegs with my neighbor last night. It said it was 5 liters. Not the best beer in the world but a good change from the mexican beer.

[CoachChaz]

I like most of them, but cannot stand the taste of the regular "Boston Lager". It tastes like acorns or something. Really bitter to me.

My wife says the same thing. She can drink most of the SA stuff, but can't stand the Boston Lager. I like it, but the Boston Ale is better.

[Reidman]

Tried Lagunita's Gnarleywine recently...

Not too impressed, especially since I have been spoiled with Dogfish's Oldeschool barleywine. For those not familiar with the style, it is usually a hopped up, malty high abv monster that usually has a lot of residual sugars left behind to sweeten it up.

Really this one was bland and over-carbonated for this particular style. No hop
character either which is usually prevalent but not overstated.

Even Sierra Nevada's Bigfoot is better than this but I'll try anything once and I've done my service here.

[SM19]

Eesh.

Is a saison supposed to taste lightstruck? I suspect the answer's no, but I've never had one before and I want to be sure. I just got into the fourpack of Ommegang Hennepin I bought on Tuesday, and the beer tastes really, really skunky. I'm really disappointed -- I'd heard this was one of the best beers of its kind and I was really looking forward to drinking it. I want to give it another try, but the prospect of drinking through three more bad bottles just to try my luck again is looking really unappealing right now. :sad:

[Requiem / The Dagda]

Eesh.

Is a saison supposed to taste lightstruck? I suspect the answer's no, but I've never had one before and I want to be sure. I just got into the fourpack of Ommegang Hennepin I bought on Tuesday, and the beer tastes really, really skunky. I'm really disappointed -- I'd heard this was one of the best beers of its kind and I was really looking forward to drinking it. I want to give it another try, but the prospect of drinking through three more bad bottles just to try my luck again is looking really unappealing right now. :sad:

This must be the beer my friend who was drunk the other night was referring to as Ommegagger Hewsacker. To me it just sounded pissy. Got any good ideas for maybe an import that can be found at American bars?

I'm thinking about going out tonight (I know I am Sunday) and would like to enjoy some new kinds of drinks. I think the 10 Vodka Sours I had on my birthday were more than enough of those for a while.

[SM19]

This must be the beer my friend who was drunk the other night was referring to as Ommegagger Hewsacker. To me it just sounded pissy.

Probably one and the same. Compounding my frustration is the fact that I found the Ommegang Dubbel to be positively fantastic. Consequently, part of me just doesn't want to believe that this brewery could create a beer I don't like.


Got any good ideas for maybe an import that can be found at American bars?

Imports? Look for Boddingtons, Hoegaarden, or -- if you're lucky -- Leffe Blonde, a sentimental favorite of mine. But to be honest, there aren't any good imports that I've seen offered across the board at American bars. (I'd make an exception for Guinness, which is a genuinely good stout served everywhere.) You're probably better off looking for one of the good American beers -- in your area, most likely something from Goose Island, New Belgium, Breckenridge, Rogue, or Dogfish Head. (These are guesses, of course. I have no idea what's actually served in the Dakotas.)

[Reidman]

Tried another offering from Lagunita's...simply titled "Censored"....

http://lh3.ggpht.com/andrea.ardemagni/Ryc_92mUmFI/AAAAAAAAAH4/PkdHng2TcLE/imgp0713.jpg?imgmax=512

Poured a coppery color that was crystal clear (you could read through it) and a thick white head with lots of lacing. I've come to like this brewery for their over abundant use of hops in most of their brews.

Sweet caramel taste with a nice hoppy bite on the tail end. Maybe not for bitter lovers like myself but that's my thing. Very crisp and easily drinkable with moderate carbonation. Not sure of the abv but it's probably in the 5-6% range based on the OG printed on the bottle.

I recommend to anyone with a sweet tooth for red ales or IPA's...

[Timmy!]

Beer is good.

[Nomad]

Report: Climate change will threaten beer production
By Caroline McCarthy, CNET news.com
We all know already that climate change will affect everything from food prices to cute baby polar bears.

But now it's really hitting home, folks. A report from a researcher at the National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research in New Zealand suggests that rising temperatures may threaten beer.

An Associated Press report details the findings from climate scientist Jim Salinger, who presented his research at the Institute of Brewing and Distilling's annual convention in Wellington, New Zealand. The grim results? Climate change may affect the production of malting barley, an ingredient crucial to the tasty beers we all know and love.

If we aren't careful, the regions in Australia and New Zealand in which malting barley can grow could experience some tragic shrinkage. Salinger's study didn't extend beyond those two countries, but he did warn that "similar effects could be expected" across the globe.

"It will mean either there will be pubs without beer or the cost of beer will go up," the Associated Press article quoted Salinger as saying.

One word: Noooooooooooo!

[Reidman]

Report: Climate change will threaten beer production
By Caroline McCarthy, CNET news.com
We all know already that climate change will affect everything from food prices to cute baby polar bears.

But now it's really hitting home, folks. A report from a researcher at the National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research in New Zealand suggests that rising temperatures may threaten beer.

An Associated Press report details the findings from climate scientist Jim Salinger, who presented his research at the Institute of Brewing and Distilling's annual convention in Wellington, New Zealand. The grim results? Climate change may affect the production of malting barley, an ingredient crucial to the tasty beers we all know and love.

If we aren't careful, the regions in Australia and New Zealand in which malting barley can grow could experience some tragic shrinkage. Salinger's study didn't extend beyond those two countries, but he did warn that "similar effects could be expected" across the globe.

"It will mean either there will be pubs without beer or the cost of beer will go up," the Associated Press article quoted Salinger as saying.

One word: Noooooooooooo!
Easy solution....

switch to rice....:yuck:

[Nomad]

Easy solution....

switch to rice....:yuck:

I'd rather give it up all together!

[SM19]

"It will mean either there will be pubs without beer..."

My thoughts on this. (http://www-cs.canisius.edu/~salley/Bard.book/pub.no.beer.html)

[shank]

just got a case of stella artois. good stuff.

[Slick]

just got a case of stella artois. good stuff.

Jealousy is coarsing through my veins.

[Reidman]

3 of the 9300 gallon wood aging tanks at the dogfish head brewery...made from white american oak and palo santo wood...cool!

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7906/woodtanksapril08hn9.jpg

[Requiem / The Dagda]

Spent the night having mostly Killian's and Newcastle. Not a bad night, very good still. Meow.

[CoachChaz]

Spent the night having mostly Killian's and Newcastle. Not a bad night, very good still. Meow.

I'll take the Newcastle, but Killian's isn't the same anymore

[Nomad]

Newcastle is $10 a six pack where I'm at. Smooth though! I like my Alaskan Amber too bad they don't sell it here. But my mother-in-laws coming to visit from Wa state and bringing a good supply.:elefant:

[CoachChaz]

Newcastle is $10 a six pack where I'm at. Smooth though! I like my Alaskan Amber too bad they don't sell it here. But my mother-in-laws coming to visit from Wa state and bringing a good supply.:elefant:

I love Newcastle, bu that's a tough price to pay. I hate paying $7.50 for a sixer here. Sadly, I had to drink Lone Star this weekend..but tonight is dart league night, so I can fill up on some decent stuff.

[Nomad]

I love Newcastle, bu that's a tough price to pay. I hate paying $7.50 for a sixer here. Sadly, I had to drink Lone Star this weekend..but tonight is dart league night, so I can fill up on some decent stuff.

Is Lone Star Beer the "Hamms" of Texas

[CoachChaz]

Is Lone Star Beer the "Hamms" of Texas


I suppose. It's really not all that bad anymore. You use to be able to buy it real cheap and it tasted horrible, but they kind of went through some changes and while it's still a simple lager, it tastes alot better than it use to and costs a whole lot more as well.

[dogfish]

i'm going toa bar tonight for a party to "welcome dogfish head to san francisco"-- they've never had their beers out here before, so it's a happy day for people who live out here. . . i can't wait to see which ones they have-- i'll be drinking fantastic draught beer in a few hours. . . .



:beer:

[dogfish]

Eesh.

Is a saison supposed to taste lightstruck? I suspect the answer's no, but I've never had one before and I want to be sure. I just got into the fourpack of Ommegang Hennepin I bought on Tuesday, and the beer tastes really, really skunky. I'm really disappointed -- I'd heard this was one of the best beers of its kind and I was really looking forward to drinking it. I want to give it another try, but the prospect of drinking through three more bad bottles just to try my luck again is looking really unappealing right now. :sad:



no, hennepin shouldn't taste like that-- take it back to the store, they should exchange it for you. . . .

[SM19]

Too late. Although the other bottles definitely tasted better... still a little of that flavor, but not nearly as bad. I'll just count this one as a learning experience and hope to try the beer again sometime under better circumstances. Thanks for the advice though, I'll remember that in the future!

[SR]

Tonight I bought some Paulaner Salvator Double Bock and some Shock Top Belgian White. The Paulaner is badass. I haven't had the Shock Top yet. I've never tried it, but it was different and it was there. Those two sixxers together cost me $19!

[SR]

Alright...just broke open the first Shock Top. It wasn't cold yet, but I couldn't stand it anymore. It's WAY better than Blue Moon. It's a little more orange tasting (which I should have guessed by the orange slice wearing sunglasses on the box) than Blue Moon, but has a fuller flavor, isn't as cloudy, and is less filling (which is good for people like me who go for quantity as well as quality). It really is a wonder how I don't weigh 300 pounds from all the beer I drink.

[SM19]

Picked up a selection of individual bottles at World Market on Monday. Last night it was a Sierra Nevada Porter while grilling up some steaks -- good stuff! Maybe a little hoppier than I prefer, but I like porters in general and enjoyed this one.

Tonight it'll be either the Dogfish Head Indian Brown, or the Black Sheep Holy Grail Ale. Haven't decided which yet, will probably be a game-time choice.

[dogfish]

i've enjoyed a pretty good selection of beers out here-- mostly IPAs, no surprise. . . the lagunitas is a good session IPA, mild and citrusy-- it's similar to bell's two-hearted ale. . . mad river brewing's steelhead imperial IPA is very solid-- tough, thick and bitter. . . local brewery speakeasy makes a big daddy IPA and a double daddy imperial version, both very drinkable. . . anderson valley brewing also has an imperial IPA right now. . . and i can get deschuttes brews here also-- the mirror pond pale ale and the inversion IPA. . .


i also had dogfish head's midas touch and palo santo marron on tap yesterday. . . .


:beer: :beer:

[sanluis]

At the Gym I go to they started a special on Fridays from 5-8 pm . All tap beer is $1.50. Yes they serve beer and wine at the gym here, and Guinness is one of the beers on Tap. So needless to say I am there just about every Friday. My wife see this as counter productive but I see it as motivation to work-out extra to justify a couple of pints!

Guinness is my favorite beer right now by far! :D

:beer:

[frauschieze]

At the Gym I go to they started a special on Fridays from 5-8 pm . All tap beer is $1.50. Yes they serve beer and wine at the gym here, and Guinness is one of the beers on Tap. So needless to say I am there just about every Friday. My wife see this as counter productive but I see it as motivation to work-out extra to justify a couple of pints!

Guinness is my favorite beer right now by far! :D

:beer:

Now THERE'S an idea! Motivation to work out for us lazy folks.

[CoachChaz]

It is a fact that a pint of Guinness is only like 80 calories to begin with. Not the worst stuff out there.

[Dreadnought]

Ah, the pressures of work! Some days my job sucks...others, not so much! My duties consisted of travelling with some Assembly Members to Cooperstown NY, where we held a hearing on job, population, and business loss in Upstate NY (hint: High taxes and moronic government will do it every time). Finished the day with a tour of Brewery Ommegang, a Belgian style microbrewery, complete with samples of all their wares.

I'm not a huge fan of Belgian style beers as a rule, but this stuff was very nice. I ended up buying a bunch for later use. Their "3 Philosophers" was my favorite.

[dogfish]

very cool, dread. . . three philosophers is good stuff!



:beer: :beer:

[SM19]

The beer journey continues. Had the Dogfish Head Indian Brown about a week ago. That one takes the gold medal from the last batch of beers I purchased, it's a real standout in a style (the brown ale) that I've always liked. A close second was the Rogue Mocha porter, and the third-place finish goes to the Black Sheep Holy Grail Ale, a pleasant-enough English pale notable mostly for being associated with a great film. The latter two were enjoyed (and the use of that verb is intentional) while watching the first day of the NFL draft.

Tonight, drank my first-ever Trois Pistoles. It's good and I'll be very happy to drink the three remaining bottles, but unlike the Ommegang Dubbel, I don't think it's really in the same league with the Belgian beers that inspired it. Still, I've been pretty impressed with the Unibroue beers and I'm looking forward to opening the 750ml Blanche de Chambly in my fridge.

[dogfish]

The beer journey continues. Had the Dogfish Head Indian Brown about a week ago. That one takes the gold medal from the last batch of beers I purchased, it's a real standout in a style (the brown ale) that I've always liked. A close second was the Rogue Mocha porter, and the third-place finish goes to the Black Sheep Holy Grail Ale, a pleasant-enough English pale notable mostly for being associated with a great film. The latter two were enjoyed (and the use of that verb is intentional) while watching the first day of the NFL draft.

Tonight, drank my first-ever Trois Pistoles. It's good and I'll be very happy to drink the three remaining bottles, but unlike the Ommegang Dubbel, I don't think it's really in the same league with the Belgian beers that inspired it. Still, I've been pretty impressed with the Unibroue beers and I'm looking forward to opening the 750ml Blanche de Chambly in my fridge.


ahh, the indian brown-- it's in my top five, one of the best beers ever brewed!

:beer:



i like the trois pistoles as well. . . . i actually tried that one per whodey's recommendation in the Bmania beer thread. . . i really like their apple ephemere as well-- i'm not a big fan of fruit beers, but that one just kicks ass. . .

[Stargazer]

At the Gym I go to they started a special on Fridays from 5-8 pm . All tap beer is $1.50. Yes they serve beer and wine at the gym here, and Guinness is one of the beers on Tap. So needless to say I am there just about every Friday. My wife see this as counter productive but I see it as motivation to work-out extra to justify a couple of pints!

Guinness is my favorite beer right now by far! :D

:beer:

You have got to be kidding me!:laugh:

[Stargazer]

Budweiser Budvar. Love it! And room temp!

[SR]

I'm still drinking the bageezus out of that Shock Top I mentioned earlier. Love it.

[dogfish]

i'm psyched. . .


just got an email to set up an interview for a new job-- regional beer ambassador (AKA outside sales rep) for a killer brewery here in the midwest -- new holland, the makers of the legendary dragon's milk! it's only a preliminary phone interview, but i am fairly pumped about it. . . seriously, can anybody think of a much better job for me?



:beer: :beer:

[horsesense]

Budweiser Budvar. Love it! And room temp!

Ever spend any time in Germany? :beer:


i'm psyched. . .

just got an email to set up an interview for a new job-- regional beer ambassador (AKA outside sales rep) for a killer brewery here in the midwest -- new holland, the makers of the legendary dragon's milk! it's only a preliminary phone interview, but i am fairly pumped about it. . . seriously, can anybody think of a much better job for me?

Congrats, & Good Luck!:beer:

[frauschieze]

i'm psyched. . .


just got an email to set up an interview for a new job-- regional beer ambassador (AKA outside sales rep) for a killer brewery here in the midwest -- new holland, the makers of the legendary dragon's milk! it's only a preliminary phone interview, but i am fairly pumped about it. . . seriously, can anybody think of a much better job for me?



:beer: :beer:

WOW! That would be perfect for you. If you need any references on your beer qualifications, I think anyone here would be willing to vouch for you, myself included. Good luck! Keep us posted.

[Reidman]

i'm psyched. . .


just got an email to set up an interview for a new job-- regional beer ambassador (AKA outside sales rep) for a killer brewery here in the midwest -- new holland, the makers of the legendary dragon's milk! it's only a preliminary phone interview, but i am fairly pumped about it. . . seriously, can anybody think of a much better job for me?



:beer: :beer:

Perfect job for you dog! Good luck. Will you be getting paid in beer..?:lol:

On another note I finally broke into the Meph stout. All I can say is Holy Shit!!

I sipped that for probably 3 hrs, it was like an aged cognac. The initial taste was of dates, chocolate, prunes, and coffee, wow, super complex. I know it's fermented with turbinado sugar which probably helped impart a toffee flavor as well. I was blown away by the alcohol warmth on the tail end of drinking this. I seriously was buzzed off this for a couple hours...very good stuff!! Oh yeah, I held it to a 100 watt halogen and still couldn't get any light to pass through...:eek:

a 12 oz bottle cost me over 7$ at a specialty brew shop:
http://www.beverageworld.com/images/stories/NewProducts-JanFeb06/Mephistopheles.jpg

Thanks for the suggestion dogfish. Someday I will build the courage to drink the "Beast" that's siting in my fridge...

[dogfish]

Perfect job for you dog! Good luck. Will you be getting paid in beer..?:lol:


nah, i'm pretty sure the fresh beer you get to take home would just be an added bonus. . . .


:beer:




On another note I finally broke into the Meph stout. All I can say is Holy Shit!!

I sipped that for probably 3 hrs, it was like an aged cognac. The initial taste was of dates, chocolate, prunes, and coffee, wow, super complex. I know it's fermented with turbinado sugar which probably helped impart a toffee flavor as well. I was blown away by the alcohol warmth on the tail end of drinking this. I seriously was buzzed off this for a couple hours...very good stuff!! Oh yeah, I held it to a 100 watt halogen and still couldn't get any light to pass through...:eek:

a 12 oz bottle cost me over 7$ at a specialty brew shop:
http://www.beverageworld.com/images/stories/NewProducts-JanFeb06/Mephistopheles.jpg

Thanks for the suggestion dogfish. Someday I will build the courage to drink the "Beast" that's siting in my fridge...


frickin' unbelievable stuff, isn't it? i LOOOOOVE the meph! easily one of the best stouts i've ever had. . . i'm not sure that light from the SUN would pass through it, let alone anything man-made. . . if you think that's a complex brew, i can't wait to see what you think of the beast. . . :eek:

[Thnikkaman]

I will have to look for that one.

[elsid13]

I am glad I found the thread. This are the beers that I'm currently drinking and reviewing

Lions' Stout- Outstanding Stout! It my current go to. It 8 time winner of International Beer Festive. 8,0 ALC The Web site http://www.lionbeer.com/

Wild Blue - HORRIBLE STAY AWAY from this supposed Blueberry lager which won gold medal from the North America Brewer's Ass. Looks like grape soda and taste worse then wine. The only thing going for it is 8.0 ALC, which if you can swill down 4 or 5 might make you forget the taste

[Nomad]

My mother-in-law is coming from Wa state with a couple 12s of Alaskan Amber!:elefant:

[MOtorboat]

Bud Light, Bood Light, Bud Light, Bood Light...

[elsid13]

My mother-in-law is coming from Wa state with a couple 12s of Alaskan Amber!:elefant:

I actually like the limited edition stout that they did.

[elsid13]

Bud Light, Bood Light, Bud Light, Bood Light...

Sir, you are close to become my least favorite new buddy. If don't stop drinking/promoting that piss, I will be force to call in the black helicopters and force some quality time in little island to the south.

[MOtorboat]

Sir, you are close to become my least favorite new buddy. If don't stop drinking/promoting that piss, I will be force to call in the black helicopters and force some quality time in little island to the south.

Let me guess, you drink deer piss.

[Nomad]

I actually like the limited edition stout that they did.

I liked all the beers they made but grew to like the Amber! I miss Octoberfest in Seattle where last time I went they had over 300 different kinds of beer! Good times back then!:cheers:

[frauschieze]

Sir, you are close to become my least favorite new buddy. If don't stop drinking/promoting that piss, I will be force to call in the black helicopters and force some quality time in little island to the south.

Dear elsid,

If I may explain: There are many a member here who have pledged their allegience to various imitation beers: Bud Light, Coors Light, Michelob, etc. While this behavior is not encouraged, so long as they don't stoop to drinking wine coolers (*looks pointedly at Timmy!*), they are accepted.

Yours truly,
Cheese

[elsid13]

I liked all the beers they made but grew to like the Amber! I miss Octoberfest in Seattle where last time I went they had over 300 different kinds of beer! Good times back then!:cheers:

I do love going to the NW for work, just for the beer. I started to like Black Butte Porter from Deschutes Brewery. Also there was a beer pub in Silverdale, WA that I really enjory the brewmaster's stouts and porters

[elsid13]

Dear elsid,

If I may explain: There are many a member here who have pledged their allegience to various imitation beers: Bud Light, Coors Light, Michelob, etc. While this behavior is not encouraged, so long as they don't stoop to drinking wine coolers (*looks pointedly at Timmy!*), they are accepted.

Yours truly,
Cheese

Dear Cheese

While I understand that most Americans have been brutalized by the three major brewers in the US to drink horse piss. I refuse to let my fellow Americans continue this path of darkness without putting up the good fight. If we do not stand for weak can we truly call ourselves the greatest nation on earth?

So I ask; will you to stand up and be counted or will continue to support the addiction to mass produced horse swill?

Your humble Servant

Elsid

PS We send wine cooler drinkers to the Hotrod's Real Man Summer Camp.

[frauschieze]

Dear Cheese

While I understand that most Americans have been brutalized by the three major brewers in the US to drink horse piss. I refuse to let my fellow Americans continue this path of darkness without putting up the good fight. If we do not stand for weak can we truly call ourselves the greatest nation on earth?

So I ask; will you to stand up and be counted or will continue to support the addiction to mass produced horse swill?

Your humble Servant

Elsid

PS We send wine cooler drinkers to the Hotrod's Real Man Summer Camp.

You'll find me firmly in the beer snob camp. Have been since day one, But I have to tell you....You're fighting a lost cause.

[Dreadnought]

Dear elsid,

If I may explain: There are many a member here who have pledged their allegience to various imitation beers: Bud Light, Coors Light, Michelob, etc. While this behavior is not encouraged, so long as they don't stoop to drinking wine coolers (*looks pointedly at Timmy!*), they are accepted.

Yours truly,
Cheese

Let me add that Zima is right out, too. If you a guy who drinks Zima please do us all a favor and become a Chargers fan.

Elsid, I am with you 100% in spirit. When I swap the water from my daughter's aquarium every few weeks what I get in the pail is pretty indistinguishable from, say, Coor's Light. This leaves me in a dilemma, as one of our finest citizens and a role model to all - Bronco Joe - swears by that stuff. I think we should try to bring them over to good beer by friendly persuasion rather than a more Hellfire and Brimstone presentation on the evils of drinking what is in effect colored and slightly distilled rice syrup.

Zima and wine cooler drinkers, if male, are already lost and beyond redemption.

[elsid13]

You'll find me firmly in the beer snob camp. Have been since day one, But I have to tell you....You're fighting a lost cause.

Cheese

I am Polish we don't believe in lost causes.

[MOtorboat]

Let me add that Zima is right out, too. If you a guy who drinks Zima please do us all a favor and become a Chargers fan.

Elsid, I am with you 100% in spirit. When I swap the water from my daughter's aquarium every few weeks what I get in the pail is pretty indistinguishable from, say, Coor's Light. This leaves me in a dilemma, as one of our finest citizens and a role model to all - Bronco Joe - swears by that stuff. I think we should try to bring them over to good beer by friendly persuasion rather than a more Hellfire and Brimstone presentation on the evils of drinking what is in effect colored and slightly distilled rice syrup.

Zima and wine cooler drinkers, if male, are already lost and beyond redemption.

I have just disowned you.

No man compares a Bud Light or a Coors Light to a Zima.

No man.

How dare you.

You are a disgrace.

[MOtorboat]

Cheese

I am Polish we don't believe in lost causes.

Just white flags...:elefant:

[elsid13]

Just white flags...:elefant:

Does it appear that I am speaking French???

[MOtorboat]

Does it appear that I am speaking French???

That's right, the Polish just roll over and play dead...:elefant:

[frauschieze]

That's right, the Polish just roll over and play dead...:elefant:

Best be careful or you'll have Coach on your ass, after he finishes with Dr. Death.

[BigDaddyBronco]

My mother-in-law is coming from Wa state with a couple 12s of Alaskan Amber!:elefant:
Man, I like you more and more. That's my favorite beer! :salute:

[MOtorboat]

Best be careful or you'll have Coach on your ass, after he finishes with Dr. Death.

Meh...he'll feel sorry for me when he sees me in real person and then get me laid...

Besides, he's a Texan, he's moved on from the Polish pride.

[Dreadnought]

I have just disowned you.

No man compares a Bud Light or a Coors Light to a Zima.

No man.

How dare you.

You are a disgrace.

Read it again, sparky - I said Bood Light, etc., blows, but that Zima is a complete loss. I never made that comparison!

NB, Mizzou - are you being drunk and belligerent again?

[MOtorboat]

Read it again, sparky - I said Bood Light, etc., blows, but that Zima is a complete loss. I never made that comparison!

So now you're making fun of the foreign kid...damn Dread...seriously...so uncompassionate.

[dogfish]

alright, enough talk about buttwiper-- this is the BEER thread, there's no place for that garbage here. . .



sid, always good to have more people around who can appreciate a quality fermented beverage. . .


:beer:

[elsid13]

JW Dundee's IPA. Not bad but IPA so it is what you get from IPA

[Nomad]

Read it again, sparky - I said Bood Light, etc., blows, but that Zima is a complete loss. I never made that comparison!

NB, Mizzou - are you being drunk and belligerent again?



Who are you referring to here! I surely hope not me!:confused:

[Thnikkaman]

I have just disowned you.

No man compares a Bud Light or a Coors Light to a Zima.

No man.

How dare you.

You are a disgrace.

You, a man who is an editor at a newspaper, and probably has an English or similar degree needs to learn how to read.

[elsid13]

Wolaver organic oatmeal stout. The word that comes to mind - yuck. Not even close to being a good oatmeal stout, and left a bitter aftertaste.

[SM19]

Speaking of oatmeal stouts, since Thursday I've had three from my sixer of the Breckenridge Oatmeal Stout. Honestly, I feel the same way about this that I did about the Avalanche Ale. It's pleasant enough, but just isn't living up to my expectations.

[Stargazer]

Ever spend any time in Germany? :beer:





Czech Republic:D

[Stargazer]

I'm sure some do not like it, but I love 1664(having one right now).:D

[Stargazer]

Ever spend any time in Germany? :beer:






I've spent some time in Deutschland. Who doesn't like Berliner Kindle and Hofbrau. I recommend to everyone visit the Hofbrauhaus in Munich.:D

[Timmy!]

:salute: to everybody who appreciates non piss beer.

[Reidman]

I'm sure some do not like it, but I love 1664(having one right now).:D

At first I thought you miss typed and meant 1554 but then I googled it and
found what your talking about. Sounds interesting from the description I read.
I've never seen it here but I will try it if I ever do.

[Nomad]

Man, I like you more and more. That's my favorite beer! :salute:

The Amber is going down smooth tonight watching a little basketball. Nieces and nephew are here with mother/sister in law. Alot of whiny kids in the house (2,3,4,5 yr olds) so thank god for great beer!:twitch:

[shank]

Busch:
It pours a pale yellow straw color with a foamy white head. The body is very clear and clean with plenty of carbonation. The aroma is mostly salty and hay like. A metal can note is also detected in the nose. The taste is very light. Light malts cut with rice are most noticeable. It's also salty and has some very light bitterness to it. Busch is light bodied and thin with lots of fizzy carbonation. The finish is dry and abrupt.

[Timmy!]

Drinking some good ole Fat Tire tonight. I think I'm going to try and find some Dogfish tomorrow in honor of..well...Dogfish. God bless this great thread.