Current cap space

[Superchop 7]

Anybody got current numbers? Who is on the roster we can restructure.....I want 3 million back.

[SR]

Anybody got current numbers? Who is on the roster we can restructure.....I want 3 million back.

It's been mentioned in a half dozen threads already.

[Superchop 7]

Great....then what is it.

[SR]

Great....then what is it.

Before Doom's debacle we were roughly $50k under. Doom has been released saving $7mil of cap space.

[silkamilkamonico]

Before Doom's debacle we were roughly $50k under. Doom has been released saving $7mil of cap space.
Plenty of room

[Superchop 7]

Thank you.....now....how do we free up 3 million more ?

[Lancane]

Thank you.....now....how do we free up 3 million more ?

Cutting Kuper and Mays would clear another 5 or so I believe, best guess.

[SR]

Cutting Kuper and Mays would clear another 5 or so I believe, best guess.

Mays is worth $4mil alone

[Lancane]

Mays is worth $4mil alone

What about guaranteed money? If I am correct then cutting him will cause the entirety of his remaining guarantee to be immediately owed, best guess is that it about 1.5 to 2 million in itself since he just signed a new contract last off-season. Kuper has far more guaranteed then Mays.

[CoachChaz]

I think the combined nunber for both is around 6 mil.

[SR]

I think the combined nunber for both is around 6 mil.

You're worth way more than that to me.

[Tned]

Before Doom's debacle we were roughly $50k under. Doom has been released saving $7mil of cap space.

FWIW, I think that number is off a bit, even though I know it's been thrown around by reporters.

I think they have been double counting about $1.6 million of "dead money."

For '13, Doom was scheduled to make $12 million, but his cap number was higher, because there was $1.62 million in pro-rated cap allocation from early signing/roster bonuses that were spread over the life of the contract. So, his '13 cap number was roughly $13.62.

The problem is that reporters that don't understand the numbers, talk about the Broncos saving $12 million in cap space (by releasing Doom), but then they say that savings is offset by a $4.9 million cap hit, leaving the Broncos with about $7.1 million left under the cap.

The problem is that $1.6 million is being counted both in the starting point of $50k under cap AND in the dead money that''s being accelerated. But, that's wrong.

There was already $1.6 million of that $4.9 being counted for 2013 when the Broncos were $50k under cap.

So, long story, longer. If you start at the 50k under mark (let's just call it $0 space for ease), you then add the $12 million for his salary, which would say the Broncos have $12 million in space, but you then have to subtract $3.2 for the portion of Dooms dead money that wasn't already counted in the cap space (again, $1.62 was always going to be counted in 2013).

This means the Broncos have roughly $8.8 million in cap space after cutting Doom.

[Simple Jaded]

Mays' gauranteed money has already went against the cap, save for $500.000 of his '13 salary. According to Rotoworld.......

[CoachChaz]

I think the combined nunber for both is around 6 mil.

You're worth way more than that to me.

I love you, too

[BigDaddyBronco]

Time to cut Kuper and Mays and they should have enough for another pass rusher and the draft picks. I would like to see them bring back Dan Koppen, he really played well last year.

[Superchop 7]

OK, lets say we make the cut to Mays, end up about 12 million in cap space. Whats your move ?

[SR]

OK, lets say we make the cut to Mays, end up about 12 million in cap space. Whats your move ?

They're gonna bring in another FA or two and they have the draft. And if they don't pursue Doom or sign a FA pass rushing DE, I would fully expect them to look at the draft from Doom's replacement.

[Lancane]

I'm not so sure we're going to see much more by the Broncos other then adding another defensive end or at least a situational pass rusher. I expect the Broncos biggest concern may be to get Ryan Clady under contract for some cap relief.

[Ravage!!!]

Mays' gauranteed money has already went against the cap, save for $500.000 of his '13 salary. According to Rotoworld.......

I thought guaranteed money was equally divided up between the years of the contract. So how could it all be used up if he just signed a new contract last season?

[Tned]

I thought guaranteed money was equally divided up between the years of the contract. So how could it all be used up if he just signed a new contract last season?

No, only certain bonuses are spread. I haven't looked at May's contract to see the breakdown of signing bonus to salary.

[Simple Jaded]

According to Rotoworld's breakdown (fwiw) Mays had $4.5 mil gauranteed, a $500.000 signing bonus, his entire $4 mil '12 salary and $500.000 of his '13 salary. From my point of view that's about $600.000 in dead money.......

[Tned]

According to Rotoworld's breakdown (fwiw) Mays had $4.5 mil gauranteed, a $500.000 signing bonus, his entire $4 mil '12 salary and $500.000 of his '13 salary. From my point of view that's about $600.000 in dead money.......

Yea about that. $667k Dead money if he is released.

[Simple Jaded]

Yea about that. $667k Dead money if he is released.

It is Rotoworld though.......

[Tned]

It is Rotoworld though.......

My bad, it's actually $833k

The breakdown is:
$500 guaranteed '13 salary
$333 Prorated signing bonus (2/3 of $500k)

[Lancane]

So the Broncos would gain roughly 3 million if they cut Mays, so I was off a little but the Broncos would not save 4 as suggested. I believe releasing Kuper would give them far more cap relief.

[SR]

So the Broncos would gain roughly 3 million if they cut Mays, so I was off a little but the Broncos would not save 4 as suggested. I believe releasing Kuper would give them far more cap relief.

They're both likely to be cut.

[Lancane]

They're both likely to be cut.

That is what I thought as well, but I'm surprised they did not do so before now...to at least give them a chance in a fair market, and to clear the cap before the official start of the new NFL year.

[Ziggy]

Kuper and Mays can't be cut until they either pass a physical or reach and injury settlement.

[HORSEPOWER 56]

Kuper and Mays can't be cut until they either pass a physical or reach and injury settlement.

On top of that, I don't think either will be cut until after the draft. We probably won't give up 2 players that we don't know if we can replace until after the draft (and the Doom situation) plays out.

[SR]

Kuper and Mays can't be cut until they either pass a physical or reach and injury settlement.

They can be released at any time.