Elvis Dumervil is Officially a Free Agent

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

Elvis Dumervil agreed to salary reduction, smartly. Remains in Denver.

[turftoad]

Sweet !!!! I like it.

[CoachChaz]

Amen!! We all get what we want

[chazoe60]

Good news, good news indeed.

[Timmy!]

Smart move Doom.

[NightTerror218]

Carol watch out for MO, he is on new thread rampage.

[Army Bronco]

Davii and i had a talk with Elvis. He saw it our way.

[Northman]

Way to go Doomer.

[topscribe]

Carol watch out for MO, he is on new thread rampage.
My advice to MO: Don't mess with Carol . . .
.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Elvis is NOT leaving the building:salute::salute::salute:

[Skinny]

Great news.

[CoachChaz]

Heard he cut it from 12 to 8 mil. Seems fair and leaves us more space to do more damage in FA. After a few more cyts, we could still have about 15 mil

[Magnificent Seven]

F***ing hallelujah!

[turftoad]

From 12 mill a year to 8 mill a year.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000151150/article/elvis-dumervil-staying-with-denver-broncos

[NightTerror218]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000151150/article/elvis-dumervil-staying-with-denver-broncos?campaign=Twitter_news

he will make $8 mill a year

[VonDoom]

This is great news! I wouldn't have blamed him if he balked at the pay cut, but I'm happy he's staying around to win that championship.

[Army Bronco]

We are ready for 2013!!!

[topscribe]

From 12 mill a year to 8 mill a year.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000151150/article/elvis-dumervil-staying-with-denver-broncos
Not up on DP yet. They scooped our own paper . . .
.

[Northman]

Gave him some love on twitter. Feel so much better now. Close call.

[turftoad]

We are ready for 2013!!!

Looking good and still have the draft to look forward to.

[BroncoWave]

Good to have him back! As others have stated, no Bronco fan dislikes him or wanted him gone. We just didn't want him at that price. Glad Doom came to his senses.

We are absolutely loaded this year.

[WARHORSE]

BAM!!

Chermpionship.

[CoachChaz]

Looking good and still have the draft to look forward to.

Still more FA damage to do as well

[Jsteve01]

http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_22799752/clock-ticks-elvis-dumervils-future-broncos-or-elsewhere?utm_medium=facebook

[Jsteve01]

mods please boot the idiot that posted this thread immediately tia. Or merge with Carol's

[NightTerror218]

Still more FA damage to do as well

I think we are good in FA....starter wise, some solid depth would be nice.

[topscribe]

mods please boot the idiot that posted this thread immediately tia. Or merge with Carol's
:lol: As if we all haven't done that . . .

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Vic Lombardi ‏@VicLombardi

Elvis last number was 10mill. Broncos held ground. He agreed to 8.

[Timmy!]

Heard he cut it from 12 to 8 mil. Seems fair and leaves us more space to do more damage in FA. After a few more cyts, we could still have about 15 mil

I was figuring 8 mil was the number (and a fair one at that) the Broncos wanted the whole time. I cant blame Doom for trying to get more, but realistically it was take 8 mil and be a Bronco or get signed for 8 mil somewhere else.

[Northman]

I havent.....

[CoachChaz]

I think we are good in FA....starter wise, some solid depth would be nice.

That's where I was going with it. Guys like Alan Branch for the DL would be nice.

[Jsteve01]

Heard he cut it from 12 to 8 mil. Seems fair and leaves us more space to do more damage in FA. After a few more cyts, we could still have about 15 mil

Koppen needs to be back. I fear kupes is a goner

[Lancane]

Still more FA damage to do as well

I don't think they have much money to do much more damage in Free Agency Coach, depending on who else they cut, I'm sure this restructure only clears about four, maybe five million.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Drew Goodman just stated that Elway made personal calls to Doom stating they want him

[topscribe]

I was figuring 8 mil was the number (and a fair one at that) the Broncos wanted the whole time. I cant blame Doom for trying to get more, but realistically it was take 8 mil and be a Bronco or get signed for 8 mil somewhere else.
I would have given him 9.

Which is why I'm not at the negotiating table . . .
.

[CoachChaz]

Nothing against Dumervil, but this whole scenario just continues to confirm just how much of a badass Elway is as team President.

[Jsteve01]

Not up on DP yet. They scooped our own paper . . .
.

Schefter was the best Broncos Beat writer Denver has ever seen. Does it surprise you?

[topscribe]

Koppen needs to be back. I fear kupes is a goner
I really do hope they retain Koppen. Jury's still out on Walton & Blake . . .
.

[Davii]

Couldn't be happier. I'll be buying a Dumervil jersey. Thanks Elvis!

[Northman]

Drew Goodman just stated that Elway made personal calls to Doom stating they want him

Good, Elway isnt an idiot then. He's forgiven.

[Northman]

Couldn't be happier. I'll be buying a Dumervil jersey. Thanks Elvis!

\m/

If there any current Broncos that are my favorites Dumervil is easily one of them.

[topscribe]

I havent.....
Right, Anubis.

Better to be a smartass than a dumbass, right? :D
.

[CoachChaz]

I don't think they have much money to do much more damage in Free Agency Coach, depending on who else they cut, I'm sure this restructure only clears about four, maybe five million.

This 4 and another 5-6 from Mays and Kuper once they are cut. Cut McGahee for another 2.5? Could free up around 13 mil once it's all said and done

[Ravage!!!]

Couldn't be happier. I'll be buying a Dumervil jersey. Thanks Elvis!

Reallly? you haven't learned that lessen yet?

[NightTerror218]

MO is going to be pissed..............i love it

[BroncoWave]

Good tweet from Andrew Mason showing what a BAMF Elway is as a GM:

"The Broncos cut Doom's salary, got Vasquez at half the price TEN paid for Levitre, got Welker at half per-year salary of Mike Wallace."

[Ravage!!!]

Good, Elway isnt an idiot then. He's forgiven.

hah.. see, Elway knows that a player just wants to feel like the team appreciates and WANTS them there. That does mend over a lot of wounds.

[CoachChaz]

Couldn't be happier. I'll be buying a Dumervil jersey. Thanks Elvis!

Just got one of my boys one last Christmas. He wore it every day this week. LOL. Needless to say, he's happy.

Kid plays DE and wears 92 for his school. This would have devastated him,

[MasterShake]

New rule of thumb on breaking news. Just assume Carol has it covered and move on with your life. Stick to posting pictures of cats or draft predictions.

[topscribe]

\m/

If there any current Broncos that are my favorites Dumervil is easily one of them.
I still have visions of his doing a speed rush outside, then shifting 180 degrees so
fast his back was nearly parallel to the ground, and sacking the QB while the OT
was still running the other way. :shocked:
.

[WARHORSE]

Now..............RB in the draft?

[Northman]

hah.. see, Elway knows that a player just wants to feel like the team appreciates and WANTS them there. That does mend over a lot of wounds.

I WAS JUST THINKING THAT.

If Elway had approached it like some of the yahoo's on here he would of bolted long ago. :lol:

[CoachChaz]

Now..............RB in the draft?

Considering what's left in FA? Yeah. I wanted Goodson, but he just go t grossly overpaid

[Northman]

New rule of thumb on breaking news. Just assume Carol has it covered and move on with your life. Stick to posting pictures of cats or draft predictions.

Told you. Thread whore.


I love you Carol! :D

[Davii]

Gave him some love on twitter. Feel so much better now. Close call.

THIS. I sent a twitter thank you to @EKD92 immediately when the radio broke the news. Make sure he knows how much the fans are grateful that it's not always ALL business...

[Denver Native (Carol)]

from article:


The Broncos had been trying to work it out with Dumervil. John Elway, the team's front-office boss, made multiple calls directly to Dumervil in recent days. Dumervil also heard from coach John Fox and defensive coordinator Jack Del Rio.

full article - http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_22799752/clock-ticks-elvis-dumervils-future-broncos-or-elsewhere

[summit pass]

Good, And the patriots are trying to land Freeney and or Abraham, the patriots must be furious.

[chazoe60]

New rule of thumb on breaking news. Just assume Carol has it covered and move on with your life. Stick to posting pictures of cats or draft predictions.

Hey, I scooped Carol just yesterday. She's losing her touch.


*ducks and prays*

[Davii]

from article:



full article - http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_22799752/clock-ticks-elvis-dumervils-future-broncos-or-elsewhere

I like seeing John get directly involved with talking to Elvis, as well as the other John and Jack to. I'm sure Elvis understood the team wanted him. Good move by Mr Elway

[broncofaninfla]

Awesome news. It was the best option for all involved IMO. The Broncos stay strong at on the edge of the DL, Doom gets paid and stays on a team that has a chance of doing something special this season. Not to mention the cap space this creates, great news and a great start to St Pattys day weekend........think I'll toast with some green beer.

[Northman]

I like seeing John get directly involved with talking to Elvis, as well as the other John and Jack to. I'm sure Elvis understood the team wanted him. Good move by Mr Elway

And it is stuff like this where McDaniels failed miserably.

[HORSEPOWER 56]

HELL YEAH!!!

I'm super stoked that Doom is staying put. The legend of Von Doom continues!!! :woot:

[Northman]

HELL YEAH!!!

I'm super stoked that Doom is staying put. The legend of Von Doom continues!!! :woot:


Missy was saying that all week.

"You cant have Von Doom without the Doom!!!!!!"

[SR]

Doom has been released according to Mike Klis's Twitter...contract wasn't filed on time.

[BroncoWave]

If Doom has even the slightest bit of loyalty he'll still sign the same contract that Denver didn't file on time. I can't imagine he won't.

[Northman]

Doom has been released according to Mike Klis's Twitter...contract wasn't filed on time.


Dont **** with me SR!!!!

[SR]

If Doom has even the slightest bit of loyalty he'll still sign the same contract that Denver didn't file on time. I can't imagine he won't.

It won't matter...

[topscribe]

Awesome news. It was the best option for all involved IMO. The Broncos stay strong at on the edge of the DL, Doom gets paid and stays on a team that has a chance of doing something special this season. Not to mention the cap space this creates, great news and a great start to St Pattys day weekend........think I'll toast with some green beer.
The Broncos remain the best in the league off the edge, and with Wolfe one year
older, bigger, and more experienced, and 660 lbs. of beef between Knighton and
Big Vick (not to mention the addition of DRC), that is shaping up as a terrifying
defense. :nod:

What'ya think . . . the kind of offense we used to fear from NE and defense we
used to fear from Baltimore? Maybe?
.

[SR]

Dont **** with me SR!!!!

I'm not. They didn't fax it in with his signature on it until 2:09.

[cmc0605]

Doom moving to safety...

[BroncoWave]

It won't matter...

What do you mean? He can still sign that same contract right?

[summit pass]

OK, I was under the impression thay had until 2:00pm.

[MasterShake]

Hey, I scooped Carol just yesterday. She's losing her touch.


*ducks and prays*

That's what she wants you to think. Everybody gets one.

hdr6SG_t1TU

[chazoe60]

:laugh::laugh:SR:laugh::laugh:

[HORSEPOWER 56]

I'm not. They didn't fax it in with his signature on it until 2:09.

Wait, what? I thought the "deadline" was some self-imposed one the Broncos placed on Doom. He was already under contract, it's not like he magically became a free agent. Nothing changes unless the Broncos release him.

[tubby]

Fact

Ka Boom

KFC is very interested.

[Northman]

So far its just Klis saying it.

[tubby]

Look for Bob "Beast" Ayers to have a monster year. :elefant:

[SR]

What do you mean? He can still sign that same contract right?

His current contract becomes effective today if he doesn't restructure by the deadline. That was the point of the deadline.

[SR]

OK, I was under the impression thay had until 2:00pm.

Yeah, 2pm came and went.

[Northman]

His current contract becomes effective today if he doesn't restructure by the deadline. That was the point of the deadline.

So then he has to be cut. Wow. What a range of emotions for me.

[rationalfan]

Wait, what? I thought the "deadline" was some self-imposed one the Broncos placed on Doom. He was already under contract, it's not like he magically became a free agent. Nothing changes unless the Broncos release him.

2 p.m. (MST) today was when the league's calendar year started. his restructured contract had to be in, signed, notorized, whatever by that time. it wasn't. i'm not sure what this means, exactly, but klis' twitter feed suggests there are serious salary cap issues.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis

Broncos could still sign Elvis Dumervil but there are salary cap implications. Not that simple.

Broncos didn't get fax with Elvis Dumervil signature on contract until 2:07 p.m. -- 7 minutes and 1 second past the deadline!

I'm serious. Contract was not filed by 1:59 p.m. Elvis Dumervil informed Broncos he was taking the new deal at 1:25.

Hold on, contract not filed in time. Elvis Dumervil has been officially released

Correction: It was 1:25 when Mike Sullivan interrupted Elway-Fox Plan B meeting to say: "He took the deal.''

Mike Sullivan told Elway and Fox: He took the deal

How close was it? Elway and Fox were having Plan B meeting at 1:15, thinking Elvis was gone. And then contract guru Mike Sullivan walked in

[SR]

So then he has to be cut. Wow. What a range of emotions for me.

He doesn't "have" to be cut. They can keep him, but he'll make the $12 million or whatever it was that he's due this year.

[summit pass]

Someone is playing in regards to doom not being resigned.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

Elvis Dumervil's contract not filed with NFL in time. Dumervil released, as Denver Post released.

[BeefStew25]

This is a huge cap savings.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Discussing this on the fan now - if the Broncos resign Doom, they will take a 4 mil cap hit!!!!!!!!

[rationalfan]

elway's first major fail as a gm/vp.

[EDIT] maybe. now there's word suggesting it was the fault of doom's agent. which, if you're into conspiracies, could have been his plan all along.

[Northman]

He doesn't "have" to be cut. They can keep him, but he'll make the $12 million or whatever it was that he's due this year.

Well, i say that because that was the whole point of John and them wanting to restructure. If they keep him it wont give them the room they wanted.

[Poet]

The Broncos can file for an extension. They will probably get it as well. The NFL doesn't want communication failings and technical blunders to stymie contract work.

[SR]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

Elvis Dumervil's contract not filed with NFL in time. Dumervil released, as Denver Post released.

Well, that's a strange chain of events.

[CoachChaz]

I thought the whole point of the deadline was for the restructuring. Unless Denver specifically releases him, he should still be under his previous contract. I'm confused

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis

#Broncos had to protect themselves. It was 1:59. No signed deal. Had they not released Elvis Dumervil, $12 mil would have been guaranteed

CONFUSING - Sounds because of the time constraint, the Broncos released Doom???????

[SR]

The Broncos can file for an extension. They will probably get it as well. The NFL doesn't want communication failings and technical blunders to stymie contract work.

They would've had to file said extension BEFORE the deadline as I understand it.

[UnderArmour]

What the hell are you doing, Elway? How the hell can you let a filing deadline put our 2nd best pass rusher on the market? This is ridiculous.

[CoachChaz]

The Broncos can file for an extension. They will probably get it as well. The NFL doesn't want communication failings and technical blunders to stymie contract work.

Seems to me like I've heard that before.

[tubby]

Freeney spotted riding down Parker Road near Arapahoe.

[summit pass]

Now what? If he is to get 12 mil Denver dose not have the cash.

[HORSEPOWER 56]

GODDAMMMMITTTT!!!!!

WTF??? You can't get a Fax off in 30 minutes????

I was so happy, too. This better get fixed. :mad:

[chazoe60]

I'm confused. They can't restructure him after 2 without the $12M counting but they can release him after 2 and not have the cap hit. WTF is going on?

[CoachChaz]

GODDAMMMMITTTT!!!!!

WTF??? You can't get a Fax off in 30 minutes????

I was so happy, too. This better get fixed. :mad:

They had to get his signature first before they faxed it to the league

[MasterShake]

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis


Broncos didn't get fax with Elvis Dumervil signature on contract until 2:07 p.m. -- 7 minutes and 1 second past the deadline!



Why the hell... in 20 ******* 13 are we using fax machines for things like this. Was Dumervil's agent too busy watching Seinfeld to get the fax out on time? I'm going to write to President Clinton and complain about this! First I gotta pop my Cranberries CD into my portable CD Player so I can walk down to the Post Office.

[SR]

I thought the whole point of the deadline was for the restructuring. Unless Denver specifically releases him, he should still be under his previous contract. I'm confused

He is still under his previous contract because the deadline passed. Had they restructured before 2pm MST, the old contract would've been void and the new, restructured one would've been in effect. But because they failed to file the new contract in time, he's owed whatever it was for this year on his "old" contract.

As I understand it, if the Broncos would've wanted to file for an extension to the 2pm deadline to finish negotiations, they would have had to file BEFORE 2pm to get the extension. I could be wrong.

[SR]

Now what? If he is to get 12 mil Denver dose not have the cash.

Follow along now. He'll be released.

[Poet]

They would've had to file said extension BEFORE the deadline as I understand it.

Ah. I thought that regardless you were allowed to ask for an extension. My bad.

[Lancane]

Freeney spotted riding down Parker Road near Arapahoe.

Not even close to being funny...

Dwight 'The Crypt Keeper' Freeney is a huge downgrade. I'd rather they signed two scrubs to compete in all honesty.

[summit pass]

Their is know way Denver missed the time frame. Dammit the patriots are trying to sign freeney and or Abraham.

[Magnificent Seven]

Crap!

[Tned]

I'm confused. They can't restructure him after 2 without the $12M counting but they can release him after 2 and not have the cap hit. WTF is going on?

Broncos just took something like a $5 million cap hit over this, which even if they resign him, they still take.

[skins_fan82]

Freeney spotted riding down Parker Road near Arapahoe.

LOL. Boy, did they really screw this up...

unless that idea of the conspiracy theory might be true. yikes.

[sneakers]

I enjoy the taste of pancakes.

[rationalfan]

I'm confused. They can't restructure him after 2 without the $12M counting but they can release him after 2 and not have the cap hit. WTF is going on?

they released him at 1:59 because they didn't have the contract yet. had they waited, the $12 million would have been guaranteed.

according to klis, the contract arrived at dove valley seven minutes late.

[CoachChaz]

Basically, any signing bonus that was left over was accelerated. Regardless of him re-signing or not.

[Lancane]

Just F'n wonderful, nice job...

[chazoe60]

Broncos just took something like a $5 million cap hit over this, which even if they resign him, they still take.

Well now I'm hearing thatthe Broncos actually released him at 1:59 and avoided the cap hit. Sounds like the screw up was on Doom's side. Maybe intentional.

[rationalfan]

Broncos just took something like a $5 million cap hit over this, which even if they resign him, they still take.

$4.7 million in dead money.

[SR]

Broncos just took something like a $5 million cap hit over this, which even if they resign him, they still take.

I don't want them to re-sign him. **** him for his shenanigans. Let him go be average and overpaid somewhere in the NFC.

[summit pass]

Yeah, 2pm came and went.

Yes I know that, try doing this on a kindle.

[SR]

Well now I'm hearing thatthe Broncos actually released him at 1:59 and avoided the cap hit. Sounds like the screw up was on Doom's side. Maybe intentional.

It has to be on Doom. He's the one that waited 35 minutes BEFORE THE DEADLINE to finally agree. It's on him.

[CoachChaz]

Their is know way Denver missed the time frame. Dammit the patriots are trying to sign freeney and or Abraham.

Now that they know what Elvis was going to take...they may turn their attention and cap space toward him

[tubby]

$7.3 million in savings. Well done.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

Elvis Dumervil contract snafu accelerates $3.25 million in salary-cap room.

[rationalfan]

I don't want them to re-sign him. **** him for his shenanigans. Let him go be average and overpaid somewhere in the NFC.

what shenanigans? his agent is at fault, reportedly. if true, doom agreed to restructure. his agent failed. if i'm doom, i'm looking for a new agent 20 minutes ago.

[Timmy!]

So Doom's agent basically screwed us. Well isn't that nice. No way the Broncos resign now if they have to take a 4 mil cap hit. 4+8=12, which is was his price was to begin with. Looks to me like Elvis has left the building, for good.

[CoachChaz]

Yeah, if it's true that they knew he agreed at 1:25 and didnt receive the contract from his agent until 2:06...it's going to be hard to hold this against the Broncos. Something sounds fishy

[rationalfan]

So Doom's agent basically screwed us. Well isn't that nice. No way the Broncos resign now if they have to take a 4 mil cap hit. 4+8=12, which is was his price was to begin with. Looks to me like Elvis has left the building, for good.

yep.

[Magnificent Seven]

Is Elvis Dumervil a gold digger or what?!

[CoachChaz]

So Doom's agent basically screwed us. Well isn't that nice. No way the Broncos resign now if they have to take a 4 mil cap hit. 4+8=12, which is was his price was to begin with. Looks to me like Elvis has left the building, for good.

Not really. If he's interested in staying, he can take the accelerated bonus out of the first year of the new deal and it would be the same amount.


But will he?????????????

[chazoe60]

Maybe Doom will do the right thing and sign for $5 and it ends up being a wash. He'd still get the same money.

[Lancane]

$7.3 million in savings. Well done.

That's not savings, they're going to have to spend a good portion of that on another defensive end, Denver would have had Dumervil and about four million, now they'll have a broken down veteran and about two million.

[BeefStew25]

This shit never happened with Mc Daniels.

[SR]

what shenanigans? his agent is at fault, reportedly. if true, doom agreed to restructure. his agent failed. if i'm doom, i'm looking for a new agent 20 minutes ago.

Doom didn't need to wait until the last minute to green light it either. He could've said "ok" at 11am...

[SR]

Rumor on the street is Elvis is a free agent and Broncos are talking to his agent to try to sign him as a free agent to the restructured deal. Rumor. On. The. Street.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Elvis Dumervil has been released by the Broncos despite reaching an agreement with the team around 1:25 p.m. Friday.

The Broncos say Dumervil's agent Marty Magid didn't get a restructured contract signed in time and the team had no choice but to release him. The team didnt' get the fax with Dumervil's signature until 2:07 p.m., seven minutes and one second after the deadline.

The Broncos had to protect themselves at 1:59 p.m. when they had not received a signed deal. Had they not released Dumervil, $12 million would have been guaranteed.

rest - http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_22799752/clock-ticks-elvis-dumervils-future-broncos-or-elsewhere

[Timmy!]

Not really. If he's interested in staying, he can take the accelerated bonus out of the first year of the new deal and it would be the same amount.


But will he?????????????

Hadn't thought of that. If indeed the failure was on his side because of his agent, Doom is friggin dead to me if he doesn't.

[HORSEPOWER 56]

This is straight garbage...

Congratulations Broncos, now you can eat a 4 million dollar cap hit AND try to find some second rate, over the hill POS like Freeney or Osi who will just eat up the majority of the 8 million you just saved cutting Doom.

Oh and, ROBERT AYERS SUCKS ASS!!! Screw that bust. They should've cut his worthless ass for the cap space to pay Dumervil. Unbelievably pissed off right now. This was a huge screwup by both our FO and Dumervil's agent. Damn I'm pissed!

[BeefStew25]

BroncosForums.com is using all available resources to get to the bottom of this. Standby,

[chazoe60]

Posted this in the other thread.

Maybe Doom does the right thing and signe for $5M(or whatever the difference is) and it's a wash cap hit wise. Doom would still make the same money.

[CoachChaz]

**** Marty Magid

[BeefStew25]

This is straight garbage...

Congratulations Broncos, now you can eat a 4 million dollar cap hit AND try to find some second rate, over the hill POS like Freeney or Osi who will just eat up the majority of the 8 million you just saved cutting Doom.

Oh and, ROBERT AYERS SUCKS ASS!!! Screw that bust. They should've cut his worthless ass for the cap space to pay Dumervil. Unbelievably pissed off right now. This was a huge screwup by both our FO and Dumervil's agent. Damn I'm pissed!

Dont lash out or anything.

[CoachChaz]

Hadn't thought of that. I bet he ends up a Patriot.

Wouldnt surprise me

[MasterShake]

They just reported on 104.3 The Fan out here that it sounds like despite the cap hit it is probably still going to happen. They pointed out per another agent that the odds are it was the best offer Dumervil got because he his agent would have been in contact with other teams.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis

Elvis Dumervil is a free agent.

The Fax, BTW, was stamped at 2:06, not 2:07. What matters is it was after 1:59. But since every minute counts in this story ..

[Lancane]

Posted this in the other thread.

Maybe Doom does the right thing and signe for $5M(or whatever the difference is) and it's a wash cap hit wise. Doom would still make the same money.

Would be nice, but either way someone or a few people really screwed the pooch on this one.

[rationalfan]

there's some, very minor, word that the league might be investigating this for the possibility of overturning it.

still, i'm not holding my breath ...

[BeefStew25]

there's some, very minor, word that the league might be investigating this for the possibility of overturning it.

still, i'm not holding my breath ...

I am hearing the same thing. STandby,

[HORSEPOWER 56]

They just reported on 104.3 The Fan out here that it sounds like despite the cap hit it is probably still going to happen. They pointed out per another agent that the odds are it was the best offer Dumervil got because he his agent would have been in contact with other teams.

I didn't think his agent could talk with other teams because Doom (until 1:59 today) was still a Bronco (unless the Broncos gave him permission to shop himself). Wouldn't that be tampering?

[CoachChaz]

You'd think the league would be able to see if it was the agents fault and overturn the rule in place. Kind of shitty when teams have to suffer a financial hit like that because a 3rd party ****** up

[Denver Native (Carol)]

They just reported on 104.3 The Fan out here that it sounds like despite the cap hit it is probably still going to happen. They pointed out per another agent that the odds are it was the best offer Dumervil got because he his agent would have been in contact with other teams.

Yes, I am listening to that, and Drew/Scott's feelings are that Doom/agent did not get the signed contract back to the Broncos in time for this to happen. Drew just said right now that the Broncos did not receive the paperwork from the agent in time.

[rationalfan]

from lindsay jones' twitter feed:

"Paper work was due to league office at 2:00 -- no extensions. League office doesn't care about verbal agreements."

[SR]

from lindsay jones' twitter feed:

"Paper work was due to league office at 2:00 -- no extensions. League office doesn't care about verbal agreements."

About what I expected.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis

Upstairs at Dove Valley, Broncos are not happy. Next step in this process: Minimum 10-minute cooling off period. Probably longer

[tubby]

That's not savings, they're going to have to spend a good portion of that on another defensive end, Denver would have had Dumervil and about four million, now they'll have a broken down veteran and about two million.
$12,000,000 (original contract)
$-4.700,000 (cap hit)
$7,300,000 SAVINGS

KA CHING
:beer:

[Lancane]

You'd think the league would be able to see if it was the agents fault and overturn the rule in place. Kind of shitty when teams have to suffer a financial hit like that because a 3rd party ****** up

This is why I never trusted F'n agents and third party contract negotiators...they're all scumbags!

[SR]

This is why I never trusted F'n agents and third party contract negotiators...they're all scumbags!

They get paid to make sure their client gets the most money possible. They're not criminals...but they more money their clients get paid, the more money they get.

[HORSEPOWER 56]

Dont lash out or anything.

It's not just about Doom. This hurts the Broncos as a whole. 4 million in dead money, the better FAs already gone, and Doom (who had agreed to their terms) now probably will be gone and we have less money to try to find an old, broken, (or in Ayers' case shitty) replacement. So yeah, I'm a little agitated.

[Lancane]

$12,000,000 (original contract)
$-4.700,000 (cap hit)
$7,300,000 SAVINGS

KA CHING
:beer:

How much do you think Freeney, Osi or Abraham would cost us?

Think about it real carefully!

[tubby]

John Elway is the man! All hail 7!

[chazoe60]

If Elvis and his agent orchestrated this then I hope the Broncos kick the shit out of whatever team he signs with and Clady smashes him or Franklin literally eats him.

[SR]

How much do you think Freeney, Osi or Abraham would cost us?

Think about it real carefully!

About that savings. Personally, I say let Ayers and Wolfe go for starting DEs and just hope the offense can rack up a shit ton of points and play from ahead 90% of the time.

[HORSEPOWER 56]

$12,000,000 (original contract)
$-4.700,000 (cap hit)
$7,300,000 SAVINGS

KA CHING
:beer:

I'd rather have Doom + 4 million in cap space than 7.3 million, 4.7 in dead money and no DEs worth a shit on the roster...

[Lancane]

They get paid to make sure their client gets the most money possible. They're not criminals...but they more money their clients get paid, the more money they get.

No, they do it so they get the best cut possible for themselves...not everyone is a Jerry McGuire type agent - few are.

[SR]

No, they do it so they get the best cut possible for themselves...not everyone is a Jerry McGuire type agent - few are.

That's what I said...the more money the client gets, the more the agent gets.

[Lancane]

About that savings. Personally, I say let Ayers and Wolfe go for starting DEs and just hope the offense can rack up a shit ton of points and play from ahead 90% of the time.

Yeah cause it worked for New England in their last two Super Bowls didn't it?

[tubby]

I'd rather have Doom + 4 million in cap space than 7.3 million, 4.7 in dead money and no DEs worth a shit on the roster...

Wolfe and Ayers are worth plenty of shits.

[SR]

Yeah cause it worked for New England in their last two Super Bowls didn't it?

Quit being so ******* snippy hombre

[tubby]

http://i47.beon.ru/75/89/818975/86/46605986/0.jpegWolfe

Howwwwwwl

[HORSEPOWER 56]

About that savings. Personally, I say let Ayers and Wolfe go for starting DEs and just hope the offense can rack up a shit ton of points and play from ahead 90% of the time.

Ayers sucks. They actually converted a rookie 4-3 DT to LDE and had him play out of position because of how bad he actually sucks. Not just as a pass rusher, Ayers sucks vs the run too, or Wolfe wouldn't have started over him. Think about it...

[Timmy!]

This is looking pretty shitty on Dooms behalf. Klis just tweeted that upstairs in Dove Valley the Broncos are pissed (well he said not happy, and need 10 minute cooling off period....that's pissed to me). If Doom doesn't sign a contract with the Broncos that pays him the 8 mil this year (including the accelerated cap hit, so it would be about 5 mil this year) he and his agent go **** themselves.

[Lancane]

Quit being so ******* snippy hombre

I'm not being F'n snippy....I'm irritated with Dumervil's agent and this whole damn situation.

[HORSEPOWER 56]

Wolfe and Ayers are worth plenty of shits.

So, what has Ayers ever done for this team... ever? He's more overpaid and underused than Moreno. He could've been completely off the roster last year and nobody would've noticed. He's f'n terrible. Fox knows it, Del Rio knows it and Elway knows it, hence why Wolfe started over him as a run stopper and their backup plan was Freeney all along if they couldn't get Doom done.

[tubby]

Jeff Legwold ‏@Jeff_Legwold
#Broncos had abt $52,000 worth of cap space before Dumervil's release. His dead money is $4.869 M. They now have abt $7.813 room or <$8M

[MasterShake]

I didn't think his agent could talk with other teams because Doom (until 1:59 today) was still a Bronco (unless the Broncos gave him permission to shop himself). Wouldn't that be tampering?

Not official talks but just gauging interest or something. I have no clue how this works. They talked to an NFL agent so I assumed he knew what he was talking about. What a mess.

What I want to know is how did the report about the signing come out despite the fact that he was officially released at 1:59? Talk about wiping your butt before you take a shit.

[BeefStew25]

Talk about wiping your butt before you take a shit.

Sometimes you have to to arrange all the hairs the right way.

[CoachChaz]

Not official talks but just gauging interest or something. I have no clue how this works. They talked to an NFL agent so I assumed he knew what he was talking about. What a mess.

What I want to know is how did the report about the signing come out despite the fact that he was officially released at 1:59? Talk about wiping your butt before you take a shit.

Apparently because he agreed at 1:25...just didnt officially sign until 2:06

[claymore]

Elways best in crunch time. He will paint this turd gold. It will all work out.

[SR]

Jeff Legwold ‏@Jeff_Legwold
#Broncos had abt $52,000 worth of cap space before Dumervil's release. His dead money is $4.869 M. They now have abt $7.813 room or <$8M

That's about what it's gonna be.

[DenBronx]

Looks like it was Dooms agent that screwed up. Not Doom or the Broncos....if I was Doom I would fire him and the Broncos should probably sue him as well.

[SR]

Elways best in crunch time. He will paint this turd gold. It will all work out.

I agree. That's why I'm not all up in arms like some of the Nancies around here.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Talk on thefan now is that it is the agent who screwed this up.

[MasterShake]

Apparently because he agreed at 1:25...just didnt officially sign until 2:06

I see. Everyone was trying to get the scoop and all they ended up doing was make Carol look like a fool. I bet she is on her way down there right now to exact some VENGEANCE.

[CoachChaz]

Jeff Legwold ‏@Jeff_Legwold
#Broncos had abt $52,000 worth of cap space before Dumervil's release. His dead money is $4.869 M. They now have abt $7.813 room or <$8M

Until they cut Kuper, Mays and a RB. They'll be fine either way

[BeefStew25]

I just beat the living shit out of my ex-wife over this.

[SR]

I just beat the living shit out of my ex-wife over this.

She had it coming anyway.

[Az Snake]

Rumor on the street is Elvis is a free agent and Broncos are talking to his agent to try to sign him as a free agent to the restructured deal. Rumor. On. The. Street.



Posted this in the other thread.

Maybe Doom does the right thing and signe for $5M(or whatever the difference is) and it's a wash cap hit wise. Doom would still make the same money.

This is what I was thinking too. If Doom wants to be a Bronco, he'll do it.
Sign for $4 mill or whatever and make the same money.
That's all he can get elsewhere anyway.
Everyone tweet "Do the right thing Doom !!!".
What a cluster. :slaphead:

.

[DenBronx]

I am hearing that they are looking into an exception with the NFL since the fax came in a few minutes late.

[CoachChaz]

As I see it there are 2 options. Do a new contract paying him 3.2 million this year (since he just got a 4.8 mil check once released) and 8 mil next year...

or...

say goodbye and move on. Doom and agent screwed this up.

[Tned]

Well now I'm hearing thatthe Broncos actually released him at 1:59 and avoided the cap hit. Sounds like the screw up was on Doom's side. Maybe intentional.

They avoided the $12 million cap hit in terms of that was what his salary was. However, by releasing him, they accelerated the signing bonus that was prorated over the life of the contract, and now have taken a $4.7 million cap hit (dead money).

So, let's say they resigned him to $8 million contract this evening (what they had agreed on), his cap number this year would be effectively $12.7 million vs. the $12 million it would have been if they had paid him his full 2013 salary. They will still have saved $4 million in cash, but saved no money in cap and might actually be worse off by half a million or so.

Considering they agreed on terms, this was a colossal disaster.

[Timmy!]

If Doom does somehow end up a Bronco the contract needs to include a clause that allows Elway to throw 10 footballs directly at the agent's crotch.

[Tned]

As I see it there are 2 options. Do a new contract paying him 3.2 million this year (since he just got a 4.8 mil check once released) and 8 mil next year...

or...

say goodbye and move on. Doom and agent screwed this up.

Problem is he didn't get a $4.8 million check (unless I'm missing something). The $4.7 million was the portion of his signing bonus (that was paid three years ago) that would have been spread over the next three years, that the Broncos now have to count against this years cap.

[tubby]

This thread title is very misleading.

[CoachChaz]

Problem is he didn't get a $4.8 million check (unless I'm missing something). The $4.7 million was the portion of his signing bonus (that was paid three years ago) that would have been spread over the next three years, that the Broncos now have to count against this years cap.

That's why I say he needs to accept a contract that only pays him 3.2 mil for this year. That way, the original agreement balances out since his agent got 4.8 of it accelerated.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

I see. Everyone was trying to get the scoop and all they ended up doing was make Carol look like a fool. I bet she is on her way down there right now to exact some VENGEANCE.

Not me - Adam Schefter

[chazoe60]

This thread title is very misleading.

Yeah, it's not like Carol to do this "duped ya'" crap. I think she's just mad because I out-scooped her on that Os story yesterday.

[slim]

**** 'em....

[BroncoWave]

Dooms agent can go suck a bag of dicks.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Sullivan at 1:25 told the Broncos that the deal was done. They needed the signed contract. Elway was on the phone with Doom stating there are other ways to get them the signed contract, other than FAX. The signed contract was received by the Broncos at 2:06, via FAX. They had an email confirming the agreement, but they needed the signed contract.

Above info from DMac on the fan

[slim]

Doom can suck a few too.

[HORSEPOWER 56]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not angry at Elway and I'm not angry at Doom (they had a gentlemen's agreement at 1:25) but unless they can get this sorted out this is a massive cluster ****.

I just can't believe that something as stupid as a fax can cost the team nearly 5 million dollars and a great player. Damn I hope this gets sorted out. I really want to punch Doom's agent in the face repeatedly.

[BeefStew25]

Dooms agent can go suck a bag of dicks.

You guys meeting in Vegas?

[Lancane]

Well we now know who is going to be Te'o's agent!

[cmc0605]

From Mike Klis:

"If I'm reading this right, Broncos may now be confronting $4.869 million in dead money against cap with Elvis Dumervil release. Complicated"

From John Clayton:

"The Broncos save $8.754 million of cap room by Dumervil's release. But they lose the player."

Not sure what to make of this...

[rationalfan]

i'm listening to Alfred Williams on the radio. he's also entertaining the idea of conspiracy/collusion regarding the late fax.

he's pointing a lot of blame at doom, wondering aloud that he got a similar offer from another team.

he also says he thinks doom will be playing for ATL next season. pure speculation on his part.

[CoachChaz]

Sullivan at 1:25 told the Broncos that the deal was done. They needed the signed contract. Elway was on the phone with Doom stating there are other ways to get them the signed contract, other than FAX. The signed contract was received by the Broncos at 2:06, via FAX. They had an email confirming the agreement, but they needed the signed contract.

Above info from DMac on the fan

Maybe that will help in their arguement with league offices

[rationalfan]

From Mike Klis:

"If I'm reading this right, Broncos may now be confronting $4.869 million in dead money against cap with Elvis Dumervil release. Complicated"

From John Clayton:

"The Broncos save $8.754 million of cap room by Dumervil's release. But they lose the player."

Not sure what to make of this...

journalists are terrible at math.

[BeefStew25]

Big money will win out. Bowlen puts a call into Goodell, and they go by intent, and we all win except the agent, who will be repping me as a anal probe sale rep agent.

[slim]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not angry at Elway and I'm not angry at Doom (they had a gentlemen's agreement at 1:25) but unless they can get this sorted out this is a massive cluster ****.

I just can't believe that something as stupid as a fax can cost the team nearly 5 million dollars and a great player. Damn I hope this gets sorted out. I really want to punch Doom's agent in the face repeatedly.

It wasn't an accident, unless you think they are unable to read a clock.

It was a big eff you to the Broncos.

[chazoe60]

i'm listening to Alfred Williams on the radio. he's also entertaining the idea of conspiracy/collusion regarding the late fax.

he's pointing a lot of blame at doom, wondering aloud that he got a similar offer from another team.

he also says he thinks doom will be playing for ATL next season. pure speculation on his part.
Alfred is retarded. I'm grateful for his time and effort as a Bronco, but that man is as dumb a human being as I have ever had the misfortune of listening to.

[CoachChaz]

i'm listening to Alfred Williams on the radio. he's also entertaining the idea of conspiracy/collusion regarding the late fax.

he's pointing a lot of blame at doom, wondering aloud that he got a similar offer from another team.

he also says he thinks doom will be playing for ATL next season. pure speculation on his part.

From what I understand, ATL has 3 mil in cap space left

[BeefStew25]

From what I understand, ATL has 3 mil in cap space left

Cut Roddy White and Matt Ryan, and BOOM.

[slim]

Does anyone know what time it is?

[jhns]

Sullivan at 1:25 told the Broncos that the deal was done. They needed the signed contract. Elway was on the phone with Doom stating there are other ways to get them the signed contract, other than FAX. The signed contract was received by the Broncos at 2:06, via FAX. They had an email confirming the agreement, but they needed the signed contract.

Above info from DMac on the fan

Yeah, NFL.com says the fax machine was on the fritz but Dooms agent is stuck in 1980 so he couldn't figure out another way to get the contract sent.

[chazoe60]

Does anyone know what time it is?

4:87

[Lancane]

It wasn't an accident, unless you think they are unable to read a clock.

It was a big eff you to the Broncos.

That's possible, but it may not be Doom's fault either. As I said either way, someone or a number of them screwed the pooch on this. If his agent is at fault, I'd fire his ass right quick, if Doom had part to play then I would move on without his ass - but it's still bitter, no matter which way you slice it.

[rationalfan]

Alfred is retarded. I'm grateful for his time and effort as a Bronco, but that man is as dumb a human being as I have ever had the misfortune of listening to.

you need to listen to more sports radio jocks; he's middle of the road in terms of idiocy.

[rationalfan]

It wasn't an accident, unless you think they are unable to read a clock.

It was a big eff you to the Broncos.

a part of me thinks you're very right.

[Ravage!!!]

This wasn't intentional. I swear, some of you guys really do need a girl or something to cool your jets. Really? You think Doom did this on purpose bfore trying to get a job with another team?

[Krugan]

so much stupid, this whole deal...

[MasterShake]

Sullivan at 1:25 told the Broncos that the deal was done. They needed the signed contract. Elway was on the phone with Doom stating there are other ways to get them the signed contract, other than FAX. The signed contract was received by the Broncos at 2:06, via FAX. They had an email confirming the agreement, but they needed the signed contract.

Above info from DMac on the fan

Alfred Williams just also mentioned that they allowed Dumervil and his agent to shop the contract this previous week and we had the best offer.

[topscribe]

According to 104.3 The Fan, the Broncos had allowed Dumervil & his agent to
shop the deal around for a week,and the Broncos had offered the best deal.
.

[jhns]

It wasn't an accident, unless you think they are unable to read a clock.

It was a big eff you to the Broncos.

That is a pretty stupid assumption being stated as fact...

Anyways, what exactly is the dead money? Does that mean they paid Doom some bonus or is it just money that now goes nowhere? This entire situation makes me sad.

[rationalfan]

more alfred williams stuff: he says he talked to some in the broncos organization and that they gave elvis permission to listen to other offers throughout this past week and that denver gave him the best deal. sounds a little self-serving, but could be true.

DMac says he talked to an "nfl executive" who said it sounds like doom and the agent gave denver an FU.

[CoachChaz]

This wasn't intentional. I swear, some of you guys really do need a girl or something to cool your jets. Really? You think Doom did this on purpose bfore trying to get a job with another team?

Well...he technically couldnt look prior to this without permission because he was under contract...but I dont know that he had anything to do with this snafu

[Lancane]

This wasn't intentional. I swear, some of you guys really do need a girl or something to cool your jets. Really? You think Doom did this on purpose bfore trying to get a job with another team?

I don't, but there is always the possibility of the unthinkable. No matter what, I think Doom needs a new freaking agent.

[topscribe]

Alfred Williams just also mentioned that they allowed Dumervil and his agent to shop the contract this previous week and we had the best offer.

Scooped by seconds. Shades of the Dumervil deal . . .

[Northman]

This is straight garbage...

Congratulations Broncos, now you can eat a 4 million dollar cap hit AND try to find some second rate, over the hill POS like Freeney or Osi who will just eat up the majority of the 8 million you just saved cutting Doom.

Oh and, ROBERT AYERS SUCKS ASS!!! Screw that bust. They should've cut his worthless ass for the cap space to pay Dumervil. Unbelievably pissed off right now. This was a huge screwup by both our FO and Dumervil's agent. Damn I'm pissed!

As pissed off as i am right now with you im hearing a lot that its on his agent. According to most the contract was signed at 1:25 and the doofus agent didnt send it in on time. Sounds like the agent was looking out for his own interest instead of his clients. His ass would be gone if i was Elvis.

[SR]

That is a pretty stupid assumption being stated as fact...

Anyways, what exactly is the dead money? Does that mean they paid Doom some bonus or is it just money that now goes nowhere? This entire situation makes me sad.

Dead money means it's money that counts against the cap but isn't being paid to a player.

[CoachChaz]

As pissed off as i am right now with you im hearing a lot that its on his agent. According to most the contract was signed at 1:25 and the doofus agent didnt send it in on time. Sounds like the agent was looking out for his own interest instead of his clients. His ass would be gone if i was Elvis.

Exactly. The agent knows the deadline. If you dont send it prior to 1:59...why send it at all?

[Ravage!!!]

Alfred Williams just also mentioned that they allowed Dumervil and his agent to shop the contract this previous week and we had the best offer.

Alfred has about zero cred when it comes to inside scoops.

[BroncoWave]

This wasn't intentional. I swear, some of you guys really do need a girl or something to cool your jets. Really? You think Doom did this on purpose bfore trying to get a job with another team?

Not that you care but I agree. I think his agent is stupid for letting the deadline pass but i have a hard time believing this was intentional.

[Ravage!!!]

Well...he technically couldnt look prior to this without permission because he was under contract...but I dont know that he had anything to do with this snafu

No.. I mean you think that Doom is going to do this to his team, intentionally, and then go looking for another job and say to them "tada" I'm here, I know you want a guy on the team tht is willing to intentionally screw you like this?? That doesn't make sense at all, and to me, is a pretty stupid thing to believe.

[Magnificent Seven]

What a day...

[MasterShake]

Alfred has about zero cred when it comes to inside scoops.

I am honestly thinking of switching over to CJ and Kreckman. I am being reminded of how much I can't stand Dmac...

[Lancane]

Not that you care but I agree. I think his agent is stupid for letting the deadline pass but i have a hard time believing this was intentional.

I'd still fire his ass!

[topscribe]

I am honestly thinking of switching over to CJ and Kreckman. I am being reminded of how much I can't stand Dmac...

I did. They were talking BASKETBALL!! :mad:

Maybe they've switched by now . . .


EDIT: They're talking Dumervil now.

[DenBronx]

None of this makes any sense really. Why did such a huge error happen at the deadline? Someone either royally screwed up or someone is playing big games with us.

All signs point to more players getting cut then. My guess is Joe Mays.

[HORSEPOWER 56]

Exactly. The agent knows the deadline. If you dont send it prior to 1:59...why send it at all?

Exactly. That's the part I don't get. If this were just an issue of Doom trying to give the Broncos the middle finger, why would he have sent back the contract at all? On top of that, I read that at 1:54, Elvis sent out text messages to teammates saying he'd be back. It just doesn't make any damned sense at all. It really makes the agent look like a completely incompetent buffoon.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis

If I'm reading this right, Broncos may now be confronting $4.869 million in dead money against cap with Elvis Dumervil release. Complicated

[tubby]

Elvis doesn't want to win a Super Bowl. Bottom line.

[DenBronx]

Why not Adobe??? Why in the hell was it a fax??

The Broncos are still talking with the NFL about this is what I am hearing to see if they could get an emergency extension. Goodell....you big piece of shit....you better give us this one!!!!

[BroncoWave]

I'd still fire his ass!

Completely agree. This snafu could cost doom millions of bucks.

[Northman]

No.. I mean you think that Doom is going to do this to his team, intentionally, and then go looking for another job and say to them "tada" I'm here, I know you want a guy on the team tht is willing to intentionally screw you like this?? That doesn't make sense at all, and to me, is a pretty stupid thing to believe.

While there is a slim chance that Doom could get a big payday elsewhere most of the commentators i was listening too on the way home agreed with Chaz's point about the average that the DE's in FA make which is around $6 mil. So its an awful risk to intentionally do that only to take less money. I agree that i think the agent just fubared here.

[DenBronx]

Exactly. That's the part I don't get. If this were just an issue of Doom trying to give the Broncos the middle finger, why would he have sent back the contract at all? On top of that, I read that at 1:54, Elvis sent out text messages to teammates saying he'd be back. It just doesn't make any damned sense at all. It really makes the agent look like a completely incompetent buffoon.


Its his agent, the dam fax machine itself or the freakin slow ass dial up they were using.

Lawsuit time.

[Northman]

The feeling i have right now is the same i had right after we lost to Bmore. Sickening.

[cmc0605]

From Klis:

"At 1:25 p.m. Broncos contract man Mike Sullivan interrupted Fox-Elway meeting to say Elvis took the deal."

Doesn't sound like Doom's fault at all

[HORSEPOWER 56]

I went ahead and merged the threads.

[Denver Native (Carol)]

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis

At 1:25 p.m. Broncos contract man Mike Sullivan interrupted Fox-Elway meeting to say Elvis took the deal.

Broncos gave Elvis Dumervil and agent Marty Magid a 1 p.m. deadline to decide. When 1 p.m came and went, Elway-Fox huddled to talk plan B.

[jhns]

Dead money means it's money that counts against the cap but isn't being paid to a player.

That's what I thought but was hoping I was wrong. Since the team doesn't have to actually spend the money, it won't count towards Bowlens pocket book. They are going to have a hard time getting Doom to sign an even lower contract now though, as they don't have the cap for that $8 mil.

I really have to laugh at the drama queens thinking Doom and his agent did this on purpose. They knew just as well as anyone that this makes it much harder for him to get paid. It doesn't sound like others want to give him more and it won't be easy for this team to pay that same $8 mil now. In order for that conspiracy theory to be right, they intentionally screwed themselves in order to screw the Broncos. That would require a lot of hate for the Broncos on their part.

[DenBronx]

I really dont think this was on Elvis or the Broncos. The two mutually had a gentlemens agreement and Elvis wants to be here.


Fax lady: You have one job to do. Send these few pages to ***-***-**** and press send. Wait for a confirmation and bring it to me.