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TXBRONC
08-13-2009, 06:19 AM
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_13049637


Broncos' schedule: Potential woes with tough foes

By Mike Klis
The Denver Post
Posted: 08/13/2009 01:00:00 AM MDT
Updated: 08/13/2009 01:43:09 AM MDT

Most years, a team's schedule lines up so clean and orderly, it looks nice on a refrigerator door.

This year, the Broncos might have to keep their schedule on a leash. Their list of opponents don't line up so much as they menacingly congregate into a pack of forecasted doom.

"Because they have what is probably the most difficult schedule in the NFL, the Broncos have a very tough road in 2009," said Jay Kornegay, who is a Denver native, Colorado State graduate, lifelong Broncos fan — and executive director of the Race & Sports book for the Las Vegas Hilton.

Even the most orange-shaded expectations might struggle to reconcile their optimism versus the reality of the schedule. Josh McDaniels has a chance to become a special head coach, but have you seen that schedule? The offense should be good even without Jay Cutler, but what about that schedule? The defense has to be better than last year, and if the offense is just as good, the Broncos should improve on their 8-8 record from last year.
Then again, there's that schedule.

Difficult? There is the defending Super Bowl champion Pittsburgh Steelers and the previous season's Super Bowl champs, the New York Giants.

There is Tom Brady and the New England Patriots and Peyton Manning and the Indianapolis Colts.

There are two games against the three-time defending AFC West champion San Diego Chargers with a healthy Shawne Merriman and LaDainian Tomlinson. And there are four games against the NFC East, traditionally the NFL's roughest, toughest and glitziest division.

According to projections made by the Hilton sports book, the Broncos are the only team to have the six highest-rated teams on their schedule. This formidable sixsome does not include the Dallas Cowboys, who should be formidable, or Ray Lewis' Baltimore Ravens, who went 11-5 last season and made it to the AFC championship game.

"The thing about rating how tough this year's schedule is, it's based on what happened

in 2008," said Broncos' defensive end/linebacker Elvis Dumervil. "There are a lot of teams just like us who shuffle things around. I like the fact that people say we have a tough schedule. We'll find out what we're made of."
True, the NFL is playing in an era when every year a team such as the Miami Dolphins will go from worst to first and a team such as the Seattle Seahawks will go from first to dreadful. All the Broncos need is for Pittsburgh to stumble, the Patriots and Chargers to get old, the Colts and Ravens to drop off. And the NFC East to soften and all will be well.

"I think Josh will have these guys playing very competitive," said Jim Miller, former NFL quarterback and now an analyst on NFL Sirius Radio. "But I don't think they're ready to beat those teams."

An even scarier thought regarding the Broncos' schedule: What happens if the supposedly weaker teams such as Cincinnati, Cleveland, Oakland and Kansas City improve more than the cachet of strong opponents decline? Broncoland just gulped.

To help promote parity, the NFL arranges for the previous year's division winner to play the winners of other divisions, while the second-place teams play other runner-ups, and so on.

Great concept, but not always well-executed. San Diego will play Tennessee and Miami, who as surprise division winners last year are expected to slip this year, while the Broncos drew the second-place Patriots and Colts, annual Super Bowl contenders.

"I think the Broncos got a tough break with their schedule," said former general manager and NFL Network analyst Charley Casserly. "I think you'd rather play Tennessee and Miami than New England and Indy."
The difficulty of the schedule is the principal reason Kornegay and five of his wise guys gathered in a Las Vegas room last spring and placed the Broncos' over/under win total at 7 1/2, meaning you would bet "over" if you thought the Broncos would win 8 or more games, and "under" if you thought 7 or fewer. Then Brandon Marshall acted up and most of the bets started pouring in on the under. The Broncos' victory line is currently at 7.

Yes, the perceived falloff from Jay Cutler to Kyle Orton at quarterback was a factor in setting the over/under. The enormous transition in the coaching staff, roster and implementation of a new system was also considered.

"But the schedule was a huge factor," Kornegay said.

To avoid missing the playoffs for a fourth consecutive year, the Broncos will have to figure out how to navigate a playoff-caliber, regular-season schedule.

"I pay no attention to what people say about the schedule," McDaniels said. "Because anybody who talks about the schedule doesn't have any idea how tough the schedule is really going to be. Nobody said Atlanta, Miami, Baltimore and all those teams were going to be pains in the butts last year. So who are going to be those three or four surprise teams this year? I don't know.

"And then there's the teams that go from 11-5 and 12-4 to 6-10 and 7-9. If people want to rest on last year, they're going to be sorry for it."

Mike Klis: 303-954-1055 or mklis@denverpost.com

Dirk
08-13-2009, 07:15 AM
Even though I agree that anything can happen each season. And those teams that were good could be bad...and the bad teams could be good....

The Broncos still have a tough schedule...period.

MasterShake
08-13-2009, 07:46 AM
ANY schedule in the NFL is tough. After the last few years looking at the schedule before the season and thinking "Oh, we are gonna kick Detroits butt!" or "No way we lose to Miami on my birthday AT HOME! I'm going to pay $200 and go to that game!" I'm slowly realizing that all of these guys are paid professionals. All it takes is a costly turnover early on or an injury, or just one team being more motivated than the other for whatever reason to change the complexion of a game.

Basing your win/loss record on last years performance of other teams is like is like saying the next M. Knight Shyamalan movie is going to be good because the Sixth Sense was a cool movie. You know what happens when you do that? You get movies about dumbass aliens invading a planet that is 80% water when water kills them, or movies where the trees kill you because its a little breezy. Wait, what are we talking about?

Oh yeah, NFL schedules. You just never know. Two words: Arizona Cardinals. Even if I could go back in time knowing that they would make it to the Super Bowl I could not convince my past self it would happen. That would make a cool movie. M. Knight Shymalan should direct it. It could be called, "Improbable Premise with Twist Ending Where the Steelers Win Anyway."

Fan in Exile
08-13-2009, 08:09 AM
[url]All the Broncos need is for Pittsburgh to stumble, the Patriots and Chargers to get old, the Colts and Ravens to drop off. And the NFC East to soften and all will be well.

Well if that's all we need then we're in! Championship!!!!!





:sigh:

TXBRONC
08-13-2009, 08:53 AM
ANY schedule in the NFL is tough. After the last few years looking at the schedule before the season and thinking "Oh, we are gonna kick Detroits butt!" or "No way we lose to Miami on my birthday AT HOME! I'm going to pay $200 and go to that game!" I'm slowly realizing that all of these guys are paid professionals. All it takes is a costly turnover early on or an injury, or just one team being more motivated than the other for whatever reason to change the complexion of a game.

Basing your win/loss record on last years performance of other teams is like is like saying the next M. Knight Shyamalan movie is going to be good because the Sixth Sense was a cool movie. You know what happens when you do that? You get movies about dumbass aliens invading a planet that is 80% water when water kills them, or movies where the trees kill you because its a little breezy. Wait, what are we talking about?

Oh yeah, NFL schedules. You just never know. Two words: Arizona Cardinals. Even if I could go back in time knowing that they would make it to the Super Bowl I could not convince my past self it would happen. That would make a cool movie. M. Knight Shymalan should direct it. It could be called, "Improbable Premise with Twist Ending Where the Steelers Win Anyway."

I don't anyone could convince their past self that the Cardinals would do what they did last year. Even so they didn't have a particularly difficult schedule six of their nine regular season wins came against division opponents.

MasterShake
08-13-2009, 09:45 AM
I don't anyone could convince their past self that the Cardinals would do what they did last year. Even so they didn't have a particularly difficult schedule six of their nine regular season wins came against division opponents.

Even when the playoffs started I just assumed it was gonna be a Tennessee vs Carolina matchup. You just never know.

TXBRONC
08-13-2009, 09:49 AM
Even when the playoffs started I just assumed it was gonna be a Tennessee vs Carolina matchup. You just never know.

That's very true.

broncofaninfla
08-13-2009, 09:53 AM
The schedule looks tough on paper but I'll never use it as a crutch if we perform badly this year. To be the man, you have to beat the man so we need to field a team that can be the man and wlling to take on any opponent.

T.K.O.
08-13-2009, 10:01 AM
i just hope we beat the niners !;) (remember....one week at a time)

Ravage!!!
08-13-2009, 10:01 AM
Well.... there is a reason that Las Vegas casino's can afford multi-BILLION dollor hotels, and it isn't because they don't know how to set the odds in their favor. They are VERY good at their jobs (hence why they are able to work at places that has so much riding on their predictions).

NightTrainLayne
08-13-2009, 10:08 AM
On the bright side. .. if we make it to the playoffs, we will be battle-tested, and can maybe make some noise.

T.K.O.
08-13-2009, 10:19 AM
Well.... there is a reason that Las Vegas casino's can afford multi-BILLION dollor hotels, and it isn't because they don't know how to set the odds in their favor. They are VERY good at their jobs (hence why they are able to work at places that has so much riding on their predictions).

well the odds are set by the people who place the bets,a teams stock rises and falls based on who bets they will do well or do poorly,im pretty sure they make all that scratch off vacationers who dump off their kids college funds on the way through !and drunken college kids using daddy's visa !:laugh:

Ravage!!!
08-13-2009, 10:24 AM
well the odds are set by the people who place the bets,a teams stock rises and falls based on who bets they will do well or do poorly,im pretty sure they make all that scratch off vacationers who dump off their kids college funds on the way through !and drunken college kids using daddy's visa !:laugh:

Actually.. the initial odds are set by the odds makers. YOu are talking about the 'betters odds' in which people react/bet on those set odds. Those can fluctuate the odds, but they generally stay somewhere around the same area. Even then, the odds makers are generally expecting that and set the initial odds in order to get a big reaction.

But in all seriousness.. the LV odd setters, are VERY good at what they do. Amazingly so in fact.

T.K.O.
08-13-2009, 10:30 AM
i bet the broncos odds this season are very similar tp the cards ,ravens and falcons last season....there is hope they will be wrong again !

TXBRONC
08-13-2009, 11:21 AM
i bet the broncos odds this season are very similar tp the cards ,ravens and falcons last season....there is hope they will be wrong again !

Always, there is hope because games are won and lost on the field. But I think the point he is making Vegas tends to be right more times than they are wrong. However, that doesn't mean we should close shop and go home is over before it even starts.

BroncoWave
08-13-2009, 12:10 PM
i just hope we beat the niners !;) (remember....one week at a time)

Who cares if we beat the niners?

In the preseason, staying healthy and getting experience >>>>> actually winning the games. Remember that Detroit went 4-0 in the preseason last year.

TXBRONC
08-13-2009, 02:23 PM
Who cares if we beat the niners?

In the preseason, staying healthy and getting experience >>>>> actually winning the games. Remember that Detroit went 4-0 in the preseason last year.

I hope no one is allergic to vanilla because we'll be seeing that the entire preseason.

T.K.O.
08-13-2009, 02:53 PM
Who cares if we beat the niners?

In the preseason, staying healthy and getting experience >>>>> actually winning the games. Remember that Detroit went 4-0 in the preseason last year.

i care because i HATE IT when the broncos lose pre,reg or post season.
obviously it is more important to win in THAT order.
however if you think it wont hurt the confidence of this young team to get their asses handed to them in the preseason your wrong .
so it does matter and i bet it matters more to the players than it does me.(so thats alot)
anyway im not preaching the importance of the preseason,and you are absolutely correct that staying healthy and gaining experience is MORE important,but starting off on a positive note will go a long way towards showing the guys that there work is paying off and they are good enough to win !!(also very important):salute:so that is why i say "who cares " is not for this fan !

Lonestar
08-13-2009, 03:17 PM
well initially I was saying 5-11 this year just at looking at the upcoming schedule will revise it just prior to the first real game..

but it is a brutal schedule and unless alot of top teams really are looking past us or the injury snake bite everyone but us.. it will be a tough year..

I might add I expect us to be a better team this year across the board not getting blown out or losing an home as much as we have been..

heres it no trap games that cost us 2-3 games a year..:beer:

TXBRONC
08-13-2009, 03:25 PM
i care because i HATE IT when the broncos lose pre,reg or post season.
obviously it is more important to win in THAT order.
however if you think it wont hurt the confidence of this young team to get their asses handed to them in the preseason your wrong .
so it does matter and i bet it matters more to the players than it does me.(so thats alot)
anyway im not preaching the importance of the preseason,and you are absolutely correct that staying healthy and gaining experience is MORE important,but starting off on a positive note will go a long way towards showing the guys that there work is paying off and they are good enough to win !!(also very important):salute:so that is why i say "who cares " is not for this fan !

I don't think the players let it get them down.

The Cowboys went 4-0 in preseason during Jimmy Johnson's first year as head coach and then proceeded to go 1-15 during the regular season and coarse some already mentioned the Detroit debacle.