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Nature Boy
06-08-2009, 08:05 PM
Supposedly ESPN insider is reporting that Cutler is urging the Bears front office to lure Brandon Marshall to Chicago. Any truth to this? Anyone hear/read anything?

Marshall might as well go. Then at the end of this season, the Bears can replace Lovie Smith with Mike Shanahan. The take over will then be complete.

Thanks a lot PAT! and especially McDummass.

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silkamilkamonico
06-08-2009, 08:08 PM
Well, at least they wouldn't be Denver's problem.

It isn't 1999 anymore. They would consistently underachieve just fine year after year in Chicago.

OaklandRaider
06-08-2009, 08:10 PM
Are the bears trying to become the Baby Broncos? LOL

But it wouldn't surprise me if Cutler is really trying to get his boy Marshall to Chi Town. They were really good together.

Nature Boy
06-08-2009, 08:12 PM
Well, at least they wouldn't be Denver's problem.

It isn't 1999 anymore. They would consistently underachieve just fine year after year in Chicago.


Not with that Bears defense they wont. Last year was kind of a down yr for that Defense but they weren't the 29-30th ranked defense that Cutler/Shanahan/Marshall had to stand behind. (yet we barely missed the playoffs.)

Mikey, Cutler, Marshall teamed with a usual Bears' defense is an automatic real SB contender.

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silkamilkamonico
06-08-2009, 08:16 PM
Not with that Bears defense they wont. Last year was kind of a down yr for that Defense but they weren't the 29-30th ranked defense that Cutler/Shanahan/Marshall had to stand behind.

Mikey, Cutler, Marshall teamed with a Bears usual defense is an automatic real SB contender.

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I don't believe so.

Shanahan has actually become dumber in terms of defense. What he would do is immediately hire a guy like Bob Slowick who would most certainly underachieve as well. That would happen for about 2-3 years which would be about the time that the current Bears players would start aging or moving on.

Shanahan's inability to figure out how to score in the red zone would certainly come back to bite him in the playoffs when possessions become so important.

And he also wouldn't have Jason Elam anymore to cover his ass.

weazel
06-08-2009, 08:21 PM
Supposedly ESPN insider is reporting that Cutler is urging the Bears front office to lure Brandon Marshall to Chicago. Any truth to this? Anyone hear/read anything?

Marshall might as well go. Then at the end of this season, the Bears can replace Lovie Smith with Mike Shanahan. The take over will then be complete.

Thanks a lot PAT! and especially McDummass.

.

:Cry:


THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!!!!!

Nature Boy
06-08-2009, 08:22 PM
I don't believe so.

Shanahan has actually become dumber in terms of defense. What he would do is immediately hire a guy like Bob Slowick who would most certainly underachieve as well. That would happen for about 2-3 years which would be about the time that the current Bears players would start aging or moving on.

Shanahan's inability to figure out how to score in the red zone would certainly come back to bite him in the playoffs when possessions become so important.

And he also wouldn't have Jason Elam anymore to cover his ass.


You're right, you're the smartest guy on the board. :confused:

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Nature Boy
06-08-2009, 08:23 PM
:Cry:


THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!!!!!


Yep, only Matt Cassel can save the day for Bronco Nation now.

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silkamilkamonico
06-08-2009, 08:26 PM
You're right, you're the smartest guy on the board. :confused:

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I wouldn't say that. I'm certainly smart enough to understand that our defense last year was a joke and changes were needed, something Shanahan didn't understand.

In fact, Shanahan could have probably been the only guy that had any involvement whatsoever with NFL, (fan or work related) to think our defense would have been "fine" next year, especially with Bob Slowick running it.

It isn't that hard to figure out really.

silkamilkamonico
06-08-2009, 08:29 PM
Yep, only Matt Cassel can save the day for Bronco Nation now.

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Matt Cassell has more winning seasons than Jay Cutler does in the NFL, and college, combined, and the dude has been a backup QB since f'n high school.

:lol:

Simple Jaded
06-08-2009, 08:30 PM
Why would the Bears want Brandon Marshall? He's actually a proven starter, what they really need to do is get their hands on some 30-something 2nd string talent.

This deal would never happen, it only makes sense for the Broncos.

The Broncos could trade Marshall for Rashied Davis.......tell their fans that it's Marshall's fault and that Davis is just as good or better than Marshall knowing they'll buy it.......and they wouldn't have to worry about breaking away from The Patriot Way.

That's what they call a Win/Win Situation.

The Bears, on the other hand, would be stuck with another Elite talent.......

silkamilkamonico
06-08-2009, 08:32 PM
Why would the Bears want Brandon Marshall? He's actually a proven starter, what they really need to do is get their hands on some 30-something 2nd string talent.

This deal would never happen, it only makes sense for the Broncos.

The Broncos could trade Marshall for Rashied Davis.......tell their fans that it's Marshall's fault and that Davis is just as good or better than Marshall knowing they'll buy it.......and they wouldn't have to worry about breaking away from The Patriot Way.

That's what they call a Win/Win Situation.

The Bears, on the other hand, would be stuck with another Elite talent.......

The Bears haven't had elite talent on their roster from the offensive end since Walter Payton. Elite usually entails one of the best at their position.

Simple Jaded
06-08-2009, 08:38 PM
The Bears haven't had elite talent on their roster from the offensive end since Walter Payton. Elite usually entails one of the best at their position.

Is that a fact? Olin Kruetz has only made the ProBowl 6 times in his career, I think maybe you should reconsider your definition of Elite.

Marshall is a Top10 player with the talent to get even better, I said Elite Talent, not Elite Player.......

JKcatch724
06-08-2009, 08:42 PM
Uh oh... Jay wants Marshall, might as well give up and start saying our goodbyes now before it's too late.

:rolleyes:

dogfish
06-08-2009, 08:46 PM
"lure?"


what does THAT mean? are they going to lay out a trail of candy bars with a trap at the end or something?


:lol:



he's kinda under contract for at least another year. . . .

silkamilkamonico
06-08-2009, 08:49 PM
Is that a fact? Olin Kruetz has only made the ProBowl 6 times in his career, I think maybe you should reconsider your definition of Elite.

Marshall is a Top10 player with the talent to get even better, I said Elite Talent, not Elite Player.......

Good point, although I was thinking more along the lines of skill position players. I think when you said "another Elite talent", I was thinking you were saying they were starting to fill up on the offensive end or something. Considering Kreutz has really been down since 2006, they are still an offense without any elite "talent", or "players".

Besides, elite talent is such an overrated way of analyzing the players in the NFL, considering so many elite talents have amounted to jack chit, and so many non elite talents have become the games best, and more importantly most winning players.

silkamilkamonico
06-08-2009, 08:51 PM
Uh oh... Jay wants Marshall, might as well give up and start saying our goodbyes now before it's too late.

:rolleyes:

I think it would be a comedy act myself. They can piss and moan at the staff for being a run oriented offense (I don't care about winning, I just wanna sling the ball around), and then act like they are God's gift to the NFL at the same time "Marshall lockdown" comes into effect and is good for giving Jay about 10+ more interceptions throughout the season.

And here I've been thinking Cutler might actually become a better QB for not having Marshall to "lock down" on.

LTC Pain
06-08-2009, 08:58 PM
Supposedly ESPN insider is reporting that Cutler is urging the Bears front office to lure Brandon Marshall to Chicago. Any truth to this? Anyone hear/read anything?

Marshall might as well go. Then at the end of this season, the Bears can replace Lovie Smith with Mike Shanahan. The take over will then be complete.

Thanks a lot PAT! and especially McDummass.

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You have a link to this ESPN Insider story? You're not honestly expecting all the readers to search ESPN to validate your rumor right?

T.K.O.
06-08-2009, 09:04 PM
it only makes sense for cutler to want marshall in chicago,however as previously stated he's under contract.
does that mean we won trade him to chicago.....no
if the pot is sweet enough mcd will take it and should.
no matter how much we like brandon if he (like jay) decides he's gonna be a pain in the a$$,he's gotta go.
contract or no contract...especially when marshall is getting paid 25% of what he is worth in todays nfl market.
if a player of his caliber is not happy he can be forced to stay,but will be a locker room cancer and should be let go !
that being said i cant imagine a team letting go of two 25 year old probowl players in one offseason.....crazy.
but if it happens i hope they both rott in chicago while we use all their draft picks for the next 3 years !!
and it will be "OH SO SWEET" when we go to the playoffs next year while cutler whines about not having an O-line !

silkamilkamonico
06-08-2009, 09:04 PM
You have a link to this ESPN Insider story? You're not honestly expecting all the readers to search ESPN to validate your rumor right?

It doesn't matter.

Jay Cutler isn't going to be the determinant factor on where Marshall goes, if he even goes anywhere.

horsepig
06-08-2009, 09:13 PM
I really like BM. He fights for rac. He seems like a nice enough guy to me.

He is a "talent". I could care less about his girlfriend troubles. Seems like he likes to have these girls around that are always on his ass. Maybe it's just one of those, "I want a girl just the girl dear old Dad had" things.

I really don't care as long as he p[erforms like he has I'm all for it.

Rick
06-08-2009, 09:24 PM
Am I the only one getting sick of the Cutler got traded for Orton crap?

News flash...Cutler DID NOT get traded for Kyle Orton...

The way I break down the trade personally is Cutler got dealt for:

Moreno(I believe we would have taken Ayers or someone else defensive at 11 if we did not have the second first)
Smith(Again do not believe this would have happened if we did not have a second first next year)
A run blocking specialist TE
Orton.

For this trade to have been successful Orton does not have to be better or even as good as Cutler, this TEAM just has to be better.


On the note of BMarsh...I seriously doubt this rumor is true. Even if it was treue he was on some sort of block wouldnt it actually be to a team with first rounders to offer??

T.K.O.
06-08-2009, 09:26 PM
I really like BM. He fights for rac. He seems like a nice enough guy to me.

He is a "talent". I could care less about his girlfriend troubles. Seems like he likes to have these girls around that are always on his ass. Maybe it's just one of those, "I want a girl just the girl dear old Dad had" things.

I really don't care as long as he p[erforms like he has I'm all for it.

yeah..... not so much.
i agree that a player deserves a private life,and the scrutiny they endure is insane ,however if he truly cant find a way to have a relationship without having to "get physical"
it does bother me ,he's a big dude and only needs to control his emotions or cut the biatch loose and move on.
there is no place for that kind of behavior in the nfl.....or the local walmart for that matter.
i know he hasnt raped or robbed anybody but still.....time to grow up !
that being said i hope he's wearing a broncos jersey in september and gets to play all 19 games......

Lonestar
06-08-2009, 09:49 PM
I don't believe so.

Shanahan has actually become dumber in terms of defense. What he would do is immediately hire a guy like Bob Slowick who would most certainly underachieve as well. That would happen for about 2-3 years which would be about the time that the current Bears players would start aging or moving on.

Shanahan's inability to figure out how to score in the red zone would certainly come back to bite him in the playoffs when possessions become so important.

And he also wouldn't have Jason Elam anymore to cover his ass.

that about covers it I could not have said it better myself..

we all know that jay will lobby for something better than the skells he has not at WR.. is this really a surprise for/to anyone?


FWIW the bears defense was not all the good the past couple of years they were living off of REP..


YPG 2008 #21 29 yards per game better than we were..
YPG 2007 #28 18 yards per game WOrse than we were..
TLT POINTS 2007 #17 21.8 p/g 61 total points better than DEN
TLT POINTS 2008 #16 21.9 p/g 98 total points better than DEN

looks to me like jay is going to have to do it without an All pro WR and perhaps the best OLINE in the NFL last year.. not to mention Royale, and stokley who were close to being pro bowlers..

ahahahahahahahahahahaha

Shazam!
06-08-2009, 10:11 PM
If Cutler is trying to woo Marshall to Chicago, perhaps he finally realizes what a downgrade he's made.

slim
06-08-2009, 10:32 PM
I guess Jay doesn't realize that he can't have everything he wants.

That is a tough lesson to learn...my 5 week old just went through it.

BroncoJoe
06-08-2009, 10:35 PM
Ah, Nature Boi at it again.

Get over the Shanahan firing already. I'd rather go through a year of "rebuilding" than another five years of "we're just one or two players away..."

dogfish
06-08-2009, 10:40 PM
Ah, Nature Boi at it again.

Get over the Shanahan firing already. I'd rather go through a year of "rebuilding" than another five years of "we're just one or two players away..."


you might be in luck, joe-- if we trade marshall off too, we might be more like five or six players away. . . .



:elefant:

GEM
06-08-2009, 10:43 PM
"lure?"


what does THAT mean? are they going to lay out a trail of candy bars with a trap at the end or something?


:lol:



he's kinda under contract for at least another year. . . .

McDonald's burgers...conveniently the wrappers will also line the way. :D

ikillz0mbies
06-08-2009, 10:49 PM
If Cutler wanted Marshall, then he would've shut the hell up and stayed in Denver. Now that he's in Chicago, he realizes that he has no one to throw to other than Greg Olsen and Matt Forte. He's screwed.

lex
06-08-2009, 10:50 PM
They should trade Marshall to Chicago for more future #1 picks...so they can trade them to take a punter...Instead of a punter I was going to say longsnapper but thankfully we have Lonnie Paxton.

slim
06-08-2009, 10:58 PM
I think we should trade him to the Chiefs for Jamal Charles.

Jamal would put us over the top.

Requiem / The Dagda
06-08-2009, 11:02 PM
What are they going to trade us for Marshall? Jay Cutler!? They really don't have the picks to pull it off unless they think their second and third are fair value for him given potential risk.

dogfish
06-08-2009, 11:04 PM
What are they going to trade us for Marshall? Jay Cutler!? They really don't have the picks to pull it off unless they think their second and third are fair value for him given potential risk.


they could throw in devin hester. . . .

WARHORSE
06-08-2009, 11:18 PM
Matt Cassell has more winning seasons than Jay Cutler does in the NFL, and college, combined, and the dude has been a backup QB since f'n high school.

:lol:


So has Vince Young.


Big deal.

slim
06-08-2009, 11:21 PM
So has Vince Young.


Big deal.

Vince young was a back up since HS?

WARHORSE
06-08-2009, 11:26 PM
Lets stop this nonsense now.


Does anyone REALLY think McD is going to let Brandon go to Chicago knowing that its at the urging of CUTLER???

I KNOW that Cutler is pulling for this, but Chicago doesnt have enough to get Brandon away from us.


Fat chance.

We hold the keys to Brandons Cadillac, and without cooperation with us, Brandon is going nowhere fast.

He has some leverage, but he would have to go into the season like Ashley did.......he will alienate his teamates in the process possibly.


Best case scenario is to sign Marshall to a deal good for both Denver and Brandon.

If not, then we're going to have to go the same route that Cincy took with Chad OchoNachoLibre.


Ultimately, if Brandon tries to strongarm Denver, I dont see McD caving in.

WARHORSE
06-08-2009, 11:27 PM
Vince young was a back up since HS?


You'll figure it out.........keep readin it.

lex
06-08-2009, 11:32 PM
You'll figure it out.........keep readin it.

Thats kind of optimistic.

GEM
06-08-2009, 11:51 PM
Lets stop this nonsense now.


Does anyone REALLY think McD is going to let Brandon go to Chicago knowing that its at the urging of CUTLER???

I KNOW that Cutler is pulling for this, but Chicago doesnt have enough to get Brandon away from us.


Fat chance.

We hold the keys to Brandons Cadillac, and without cooperation with us, Brandon is going nowhere fast.

He has some leverage, but he would have to go into the season like Ashley did.......he will alienate his teamates in the process possibly.


Best case scenario is to sign Marshall to a deal good for both Denver and Brandon.

If not, then we're going to have to go the same route that Cincy took with Chad OchoNachoLibre.


Ultimately, if Brandon tries to strongarm Denver, I dont see McD caving in.

That's the same stuff we all thought when the fiasco started with Cutler.
Nope, McD wouldn't cave and there would go another piece to our potent offense. FFS McD...don't eff this one up too.

Lonestar
06-09-2009, 01:28 AM
That's the same stuff we all thought when the fiasco started with Cutler.
Nope, McD wouldn't cave and there would go another piece to our potent offense. FFS McD...don't eff this one up too.


I think you have put the cart before the horse..

Josh has been saying all the right things about him rehabbing and they look forward to have him back when he is healthy..the ball is in Marshall's court ..

I personally do not think we have to cave into his demands.. we are holding all the cards.. especially with the CBA rules that are still in place..

JONtheBRONCO
06-09-2009, 02:23 AM
It is just a rumor dudes..

broncofanatic1987
06-09-2009, 02:33 AM
Supposedly ESPN insider is reporting that Cutler is urging the Bears front office to lure Brandon Marshall to Chicago. Any truth to this? Anyone hear/read anything?

Marshall might as well go. Then at the end of this season, the Bears can replace Lovie Smith with Mike Shanahan. The take over will then be complete.

Thanks a lot PAT! and especially McDummass.

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If there is no new CBA, Marshall will be a RFA and the Bears will have to give up picks to get Marshall, if the Broncos don't match their offer. The problem with that is, they don't have a first round pick to give.

If there is a new CBA, the Broncos can franchise tag Marshall and the Bears would have to give up two first round picks to get him, assuming he's not given the exclusive franchise tag. The problem with that is two fold. They don't have a first round pick in 2010 and there's no way in hell they would be willing to give up two first round picks for Marshall anyway.

What the hell is with people thinking that Marshall can just up and leave next year without the Broncos having any say in the matter?

Exactly who is the McDumbass when people think that?

WARHORSE
06-09-2009, 03:42 AM
That's the same stuff we all thought when the fiasco started with Cutler.
Nope, McD wouldn't cave and there would go another piece to our potent offense. FFS McD...don't eff this one up too.



Or it may be cement boots for him................:tsk:

Timmy!
06-09-2009, 05:02 AM
Guys. I like bacon. No. Seriously. I'm going to go ahead and confirm this rumor right now. Timmy, indeed, does like bacon. Thank you for your concern.

http://baconhaikus.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/bacon-panties.jpg

http://www.tonychor.com/archive/bacon.jpg

CoachChaz
06-09-2009, 07:27 AM
Let's see...Marshall is working out privately...Cutler was traded to Chicago...a reporter writes a bogus article about how Marshall is holding out of Volontary workouts...Chicago has ZERO receivers.

Didn't really take alot of creativity for some dumbass with a deadline and nothing better to do to concoct this crap about Cutler wanting Marshall in Chicago. No shit he'd want him there...anyone would.

Yet here we are spending 3 pages debating and arguing how dumb McDaniels is based on some complete garbage that my 14 year old could have made up. Most off-seasons suck, but this one is the worst yet. Time for a bit of a reality check.

Northman
06-09-2009, 07:32 AM
I don't believe so.

Shanahan has actually become dumber in terms of defense. What he would do is immediately hire a guy like Bob Slowick who would most certainly underachieve as well. That would happen for about 2-3 years which would be about the time that the current Bears players would start aging or moving on.

Shanahan's inability to figure out how to score in the red zone would certainly come back to bite him in the playoffs when possessions become so important.

And he also wouldn't have Jason Elam anymore to cover his ass.

Thats kind of where i was going to go with it too. It wouldnt take long for Shanahan to ignore the injuries and problems on the Bears defense before it became the worst in the league and then they would be right back where they were when they were in Denver.

Timmy!
06-09-2009, 07:39 AM
Let's see...Marshall is working out privately...Cutler was traded to Chicago...a reporter writes a bogus article about how Marshall is holding out of Volontary workouts...Chicago has ZERO receivers.

Didn't really take alot of creativity for some dumbass with a deadline and nothing better to do to concoct this crap about Cutler wanting Marshall in Chicago. No shit he'd want him there...anyone would.

Yet here we are spending 3 pages debating and arguing how dumb McDaniels is based on some complete garbage that my 14 year old could have made up. Most off-seasons suck, but this one is the worst yet. Time for a bit of a reality check.

I have like a huge man crush on Coach. I'm just saying.

CoachChaz
06-09-2009, 07:49 AM
I have like a huge man crush on Coach. I'm just saying.

I was kinda hoping so

Timmy!
06-09-2009, 07:53 AM
I was kinda hoping so

This offseason has been so crazy. Hold me.

CoachChaz
06-09-2009, 07:54 AM
This offseason has been so crazy. Hold me.

I'm here for you.

Timmy!
06-09-2009, 07:56 AM
I'm here for you.

When I close my eyes, Chaz makes everything alright. I can breathe again.

LRtagger
06-09-2009, 08:20 AM
Good luck trading for BM when you have no first round picks available to offer.

::YAWN::

Elevation inc
06-09-2009, 08:22 AM
rumors are just that........rumors!!!!

Thnikkaman
06-09-2009, 08:44 AM
Did you hear the rumor that we are trading Clady, Royal, and half our draft picks to Chicago for a Slurpee, a Deep Dish Pizza, and two tickets to a Royals game?

Timmy!
06-09-2009, 08:47 AM
Did you hear the rumor that we are trading Clady, Royal, and half our draft picks to Chicago for a Slurpee, a Deep Dish Pizza, and two tickets to a Royals game?

What is this deep dish pizza you speak of?

Thnikkaman
06-09-2009, 08:52 AM
What is this deep dish pizza you speak of?

http://hooplanow.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/dsc09847-web1.jpg

GEM
06-09-2009, 09:14 AM
Did you hear the rumor that we are trading Clady, Royal, and half our draft picks to Chicago for a Slurpee, a Deep Dish Pizza, and two tickets to a Royals game?

Throw in a copy of the Super Bowl Shuffle and you have a deal!

hotcarl
06-09-2009, 09:54 AM
i heard that someone said something that is unfounded and dumb

lets make a 4 page thread about it :beer:

:salute:

lex
06-09-2009, 09:59 AM
Let's see...Marshall is working out privately...Cutler was traded to Chicago...a reporter writes a bogus article about how Marshall is holding out of Volontary workouts...Chicago has ZERO receivers.

Didn't really take alot of creativity for some dumbass with a deadline and nothing better to do to concoct this crap about Cutler wanting Marshall in Chicago. No shit he'd want him there...anyone would.

Yet here we are spending 3 pages debating and arguing how dumb McDaniels is based on some complete garbage that my 14 year old could have made up. Most off-seasons suck, but this one is the worst yet. Time for a bit of a reality check.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/message+board


Main Entry: message board
Part of Speech: n
Definition: an Internet-based forum for an interest group; also called bulletin board, discussion board, interactive message board
Example: Message boards usually offer chat, email, and ability to share documents.

SoCalImport
06-09-2009, 10:02 AM
i heard that someone said something that is unfounded and dumb

lets make a 4 page thread about it :beer:

:salute:

such is the nature of internet forums.

T.K.O.
06-09-2009, 10:08 AM
DOH ! thanx alot hotcarl.....you just made it 5 !:salute:

hotcarl
06-09-2009, 10:20 AM
cant.... stop.... posting....

broncofanatic1987
06-09-2009, 11:27 AM
DOH ! thanx alot hotcarl.....you just made it 5 !:salute:

Hey, it's only two pages for me.

I set my options to view 40 posts per page.:D

CoachChaz
06-09-2009, 12:07 PM
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/message+board

One again you take something too seriously. My point is that if something is ridiculous, why do we spend so much time discussing it? Then again, we all still respond to your dumb ass.

WARHORSE
06-09-2009, 03:11 PM
I like how so many guys come in here to call people dumb asses because someone chooses to discuss what they consider ignorant internet rumours...........while theyre discussing it themselves.

:coffee:



I guess thats why the topic of the thread says 'RUMOUR Mill' first', huh?



As in, if anyone is interested in discussing the possibility of, or the rumour of, or the question of..........etc,etc,etc.................you can comment in this thread.




Count your blessing fellas cause we got some really football savvy guys that come into individual threads to tell everyone else who's a dumbass for discussing something that you choose to discuss.


You know, as if you dont have the sense to discuss a rumour that you might feel is interesting enough ..............to you...........to warrant a comment from you.






Everyones a dumbass but the dumbass, no?







Just...........thought................ Id................ mention............. it.:coffee:









Case ya missed the point..........

Lonestar
06-09-2009, 03:23 PM
I like how so many guys come in here to call people dumb asses because someone chooses to discuss what they consider ignorant internet rumours...........while theyre discussing it themselves.

I guess thats why the topic of the thread says 'RUMOUR Mill' first', huh?

As in, if anyone is interested in discussing the possibility of, or the rumour of, or the question of..........etc,etc,etc.................you can comment in this thread.

Count your blessing fellas cause we got some really football savvy guys that come into individual threads to tell everyone else who's a dumbass for discussing something that you choose to discuss.


You know, as if you dont have the sense to discuss a rumour that you might feel is interesting enough ..............to you...........to warrant a comment from you.

Everyones a dumbass but the dumbass, no?


Just...........thought................ Id................ mention............. it.

Case ya missed the point..........



hey some folks do not go for rumors, some do not want to listen to others speculate, some do not want to read actual reports (DP) and some want to spin what they read..

It takes all kinds we re not going to be restrictive in what we allowed to be posted here.. save foul language..


different strokes for different folks.. that is what we are here for..

if someone does not want to get into a rumor thread skip it.. or better yet do not reply to it.. seems easy..

LTC Pain
06-09-2009, 04:42 PM
hey some folks do not go for rumors, some do not want to listen to others speculate, some do not want to read actual reports (DP) and some want to spin what they read..

It takes all kinds we re not going to be restrictive in what we allowed to be posted here.. save foul language..


different strokes for different folks.. that is what we are here for..

if someone does not want to get into a rumor thread skip it.. or better yet do not reply to it.. seems easy..

Exactly! What I have a problem with isn't the discussion about this/that rumor but who it's attributed to. This thread started with "Supposedly ESPN Insider is reporting" when they reported no such thing I could find. It would have been better if the thread starter simply said "hey let's talk about the possibility of Cutler wooing Marshall to the Bears". I guess on this board you can just make crap up and asking for a link to verify is laughable.

OrangeHoof
06-09-2009, 04:47 PM
This is easy to nip in the bud. You want Marshall? We want Tommy Harris. No Harris, no Marshall. The Bears aren't that stupid. Trade talks over.

Nomad
06-09-2009, 04:52 PM
This is easy to nip in the bud. You want Marshall? We want Tommy Harris. No Harris, no Marshall. The Bears aren't that stupid. Trade talks over.

And Hester, I'd help Marshall pack.:D :noidea:who Harris is!! He must be sorta, kinda good!

Dortoh
06-09-2009, 04:56 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_pS7sKjlzwFg/Rswlb_Yx50I/AAAAAAAAAzA/eZRx9UUtddQ/s400/Funny_Pictures_593.jpg

WARHORSE
06-09-2009, 05:47 PM
hey some folks do not go for rumors, some do not want to listen to others speculate, some do not want to read actual reports (DP) and some want to spin what they read..

It takes all kinds we re not going to be restrictive in what we allowed to be posted here.. save foul language..


different strokes for different folks.. that is what we are here for..

if someone does not want to get into a rumor thread skip it.. or better yet do not reply to it.. seems easy..


Yup.

Seems easy........

Lonestar
06-09-2009, 06:03 PM
I do recommend for future conversations that IF at all possible Y'all include links and cut and past it verbatim from where you get it....

Now I know that alot of stuff here is what some one heard on the radio or saw on TV.. But try..

I almost always when I post something try to provide a link.. Does not always happen but I try..

It cuts down on the this is bovine excrement post/responses..

If Y'all believe that it to be fact, but can't prove it then a simple IMO or IMHO works also..


we have a great forum here with lots of ideas and certainly alot of OPINIONS not everyone is going to agree all the time..

excrement happens, now it is time to go out and play nice..

lex
06-09-2009, 07:21 PM
One again you take something too seriously. My point is that if something is ridiculous, why do we spend so much time discussing it? Then again, we all still respond to your dumb ass.

Wow, not only is this a personal attack but one, which a mod high fives. LOL. Nice. Actually, I dont really take you seriously. Its you who's upset.

Simple Jaded
06-09-2009, 08:02 PM
Did you hear the rumor that we are trading Clady, Royal, and half our draft picks to Chicago for a Slurpee, a Deep Dish Pizza, and two tickets to a Royals game?

Wouldn't surprise me.......

Nature Boy
06-10-2009, 01:32 AM
Matt Forte, a 2nd and a 3rd rounder for Brandon Marshall might be fair.

Regardless, I would hate to see Brandon Marshall leave town for Chicago. It'll be the straw that breaks the camels back and I just might boycott the coming season til McDaniels proves me wrong or is fired.

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Requiem / The Dagda
06-10-2009, 01:33 AM
Matt Forte? Cool. Noble idea, considering we just drafted Knowshon.

Nature Boy
06-10-2009, 01:39 AM
Matt Forte? Cool. Noble idea, considering we just drafted Knowshon.

Didn't we go thru about 25 RBs last season? I wouldn't trade Marshall away for anyone in Chicago except for maybe Cutler and a couple others but it'll never happen.

But let's say Marshall decides to hold out this season, Matt Forte packaged with a 2nd and a 3rd rounder would be a decent offer I can live with. Matt Forte is a beast, proven. Moreno, might be better or worst, we don't know yet.

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Lonestar
06-10-2009, 01:44 AM
Didn't we go thru about 25 RBs last season? I wouldn't trade Marshall away for anyone in Chicago except for maybe Cutler and a couple others but it'll never happen.

But let's say Marshall decides to hold out this season, Matt Forte packaged with a 2nd and a 3rd rounder would be a decent offer I can live with. Matt Forte is a beast, proven. Moreno, might be better or worst, we don't know yet.

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well we will know for sure if he misses camp on FRIDAY..

HORSEPOWER 56
06-10-2009, 09:36 PM
"lure?"


what does THAT mean? are they going to lay out a trail of candy bars with a trap at the end or something?


:lol:



he's kinda under contract for at least another year. . . .


Nah, he'll just hold out and ask for a new contract or a trade until McD gets tired of it and has to show how much more he knows than others. He'll trade Marshall to the Bears for a 3rd round pick and the Broncos rebuilding phase will finally be in full swing. Not trying to be too negative, but McDaniels has proven that nobody is too good to be cut, but there don't seem to be any too bad to be signed.
:cool:

Bad Intentions
06-10-2009, 10:21 PM
Wow, not only is this a personal attack but one, which a mod high fives. LOL. Nice. Actually, I dont really take you seriously. Its you who's upset.

They aren't real mods, relax. Nobody takes you serious either, otherwise they probably would have sent dude packing. Different rules for different folks... ya knaw

lex
06-10-2009, 10:39 PM
They aren't real mods, relax. Nobody takes you serious either, otherwise they probably would have sent dude packing. Different rules for different folks... ya knaw

LOL. You're so full of it. Run along.

Nature Boy
06-12-2009, 02:27 PM
"lure?"


what does THAT mean? are they going to lay out a trail of candy bars with a trap at the end or something?


:lol:



he's kinda under contract for at least another year. . . .


NFL contracts don't mean crap. It works for both sides, the player and front office.

But I thought you knew that.

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Nature Boy
06-12-2009, 02:29 PM
Why would the Bears want Brandon Marshall? He's actually a proven starter, what they really need to do is get their hands on some 30-something 2nd string talent.

This deal would never happen, it only makes sense for the Broncos.

The Broncos could trade Marshall for Rashied Davis.......tell their fans that it's Marshall's fault and that Davis is just as good or better than Marshall knowing they'll buy it.......and they wouldn't have to worry about breaking away from The Patriot Way.

That's what they call a Win/Win Situation.

The Bears, on the other hand, would be stuck with another Elite talent.......

You're pretty close to the ballpark.

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BroncoBJ
06-12-2009, 02:45 PM
We should Trade Bmarsh and Orton for Cutler and Hester. :salute:

:elefant:

Nature Boy
06-12-2009, 02:48 PM
We should Trade Bmarsh and Orton for Cutler and Hester. :salute:

:elefant:


The Bears aren't dumb enough but I bet if the players were in opposite teams or in reverse, McDummy would jump at the opportunity.

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Thnikkaman
06-12-2009, 02:50 PM
The Bears aren't dumb enough but I bet if the players were in opposite teams or in reverse, McDummy would jump at the opportunity.

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Stop drinking the pond water when you are fishing. Its effecting your brain.

Nature Boy
06-12-2009, 02:57 PM
Stop drinking the pond water when you are fishing. Its effecting your brain.

Apparently you think that it was a good trade for us; essentially we got Orton, Alphonso Smith(2nd round player with 1st round cost) and Robert Ayers for young Super Star Pro-Bowl Cutler.

I don't know how Ayers and Smith will pan out but as it looks now, all 3 guys we got from the trade are average at best. The 2 rooks wont even see much playing time til 2-3 years down the line.

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Thnikkaman
06-12-2009, 03:01 PM
Apparently you think that it was a good trade for us; essentially we got Orton, Alphonso Smith(2nd round player with 1st round cost) and Robert Ayers for young Super Star Pro-Bowl Cutler.

I don't know how Ayers and Smith will pan out but as it looks now, all 3 guys we got from the trade are average at best. The 2 rooks wont even see much playing time til 2-3 years down the line.

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I don't know how Cutler is going to pan out. For all we know last year was a fluke. I know he couldn't get us into the end zone.

I'm not getting into another Cutler debate. If you want to know my stance on it find it in the archives. Feel free to hate McDaniels before he even coaches a snap.

:2thumbs:

Nature Boy
06-12-2009, 03:05 PM
I don't know how Cutler is going to pan out. For all we know last year was a fluke. I know he couldn't get us into the end zone.

I'm not getting into another Cutler debate. If you want to know my stance on it find it in the archives. Feel free to hate McDaniels before he even coaches a snap.

:2thumbs:

And Cutler never had a solid, consistent RB or running game so that'll explain why we couldn't get into the end zone.

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Thnikkaman
06-12-2009, 03:09 PM
Are you dumb or just born an idiot? And Cutler never had a solid, consistent RB or running game so that'll explain why we couldn't get into the end zone but if you are not one of the 2 that I mentioned above, then you'd know that.

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Cutler also never threw the ball away, telegraphed his passes, and threw to Marshall 90% of the time. We win one of those 3 games and make it to the playoffs last season if Cutler uses his brain. But no, he has to be the next Brett Favre and throw another int.

Go be a Bears fan. I'm sure Shanahan will be their new head coach in a year or two.

NightTrainLayne
06-12-2009, 03:17 PM
That's enough with the personal attacks here. Please tone it down. Thank you.

Nature Boy
06-12-2009, 03:42 PM
Cutler also never threw the ball away, telegraphed his passes, and threw to Marshall 90% of the time. We win one of those 3 games and make it to the playoffs last season if Cutler uses his brain. But no, he has to be the next Brett Favre and throw another int.

Go be a Bears fan. I'm sure Shanahan will be their new head coach in a year or two.



That's enough with the personal attacks here. Please tone it down. Thank you.


I agree but he started it. I'll put him on ignore now, might as well, his view on Cutler is nonsense. Cutler with a last ranked defense, a non existent running game, almost took us to the playoffs.

Cutler was forced to throw the ball on almost every down which made it easy for defenders to narrow in on him, he was pretty much all the Broncos had last season.

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NightTrainLayne
06-12-2009, 03:43 PM
:focus:

Thnikkaman
06-12-2009, 03:45 PM
Feel free to Ignore me. I apologize for starting any personal attacks.

The last thing Denver is going to do is trade Marshal to Chicago. Period.

Nature Boy
06-16-2009, 01:08 PM
Here's more to add to the rumors Marshall has an interested party in Chicago.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/sports/football/Brandon-Marshall-to-the-Bears-Maybe.html

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lex
06-16-2009, 01:16 PM
And Cutler never had a solid, consistent RB or running game so that'll explain why we couldn't get into the end zone.

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This is dead on. When Denver had Pittman and Hillis at RB, getting into the endzone wasnt half the challenge it was the rest of the time. It doesnt take much thought to realize that its really congested in the secondary the closer you get to the goal line and that if you have a respectable running game, you help the passing game.

Dr Velcro
06-16-2009, 01:59 PM
Supposedly ESPN insider is reporting that Cutler is urging the Bears front office to lure Brandon Marshall to Chicago. Any truth to this? Anyone hear/read anything?

Marshall might as well go. Then at the end of this season, the Bears can replace Lovie Smith with Mike Shanahan. The take over will then be complete.

Thanks a lot PAT! and especially McDummass.

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Sorry, Lovie's not going anywhere.

Bad Intentions
06-16-2009, 11:06 PM
Cutler also never threw the ball away, telegraphed his passes, and threw to Marshall 90% of the time. We win one of those 3 games and make it to the playoffs last season if Cutler uses his brain. But no, he has to be the next Brett Favre and throw another int.

Go be a Bears fan. I'm sure Shanahan will be their new head coach in a year or two.

Well Eddie Royal had 90 catches on like 130 targets and Brandon Marshall had 104 catches on about 180 targets. Figure the rest of the team accounted for his other 300 passing attempts... with exception of about 30 of them that were definately intended for the defense, most of which they did end up intercepting. Anyhow, your 90% of the time BS is just that... BS. Marshall was targeted an awful lot (most in the NFL) but it was way below 50%, let alone 90%.

sneakers
06-17-2009, 12:59 AM
"lure?"


what does THAT mean? are they going to lay out a trail of candy bars with a trap at the end or something?


:lol:



he's kinda under contract for at least another year. . . .

Like this: Except it will say "Free Money"

http://www.fugly.com/media/IMAGES/Funny/free_candy_van.jpg

Magnificent Seven
06-17-2009, 02:44 AM
Trade Marshall for Devin Hester!

Magnificent Seven
06-17-2009, 01:35 PM
Trade Marshall for Devin Hester!

Summer Blockbuster trade- Marshall-Hester?

broncohead
06-17-2009, 01:59 PM
Bears coach Lovie Smith says the team has had no discussions about a potential Brandon Marshall trade.

The Bears were unwilling to pay the price in draft picks for Anquan Boldin two months ago. There's no reason to change course now and trade away just as much for a far more risky receiver also looking for a big payday.
Source: Chicago Sun-Times

I could see us accepting less for Marshall. What was being asked for Boldin?

Nature Boy
06-17-2009, 02:14 PM
Trade Marshall for Devin Hester!


Summer Blockbuster trade- Marshall-Hester?


You are kidding right?

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Dean
06-17-2009, 10:22 PM
Meanwhile, back to B-Mrash in Chi Town. Here is what Cutler had to say about Marshall and about his receiving core and the acquisition of Marshall.


LAKE FOREST, Ill. (AP)—At least for now, the Chicago Bears are ready to go to training camp with the wide receivers on their roster to complement new quarterback Jay Cutler(notes).

However, former New York Giants receiver Plaxico Burress(notes) and disgruntled Denver Broncos receiver Brandon Marshall(notes) are intriguing possibilities for the Bears.

“We keep all of our options open,” Bears coach Lovie Smith said Wednesday following the team’s final voluntary offseason workout. “We’re constantly evaluating all the players who are out there. But I feel good about our team that we have right now and I feel good about the receivers we have right now.”

Marshall, who caught 102 and 104 passes the past two seasons while Cutler was Broncos quarterback, has asked Denver for a trade. Burress is a free agent after being waived by the New York Giants.

The Bears used Devin Hester(notes), second-year wide receiver Earl Bennett(notes) and sometimes Rashied Davis(notes) and Brandon Rideau(notes) with the starting wide receiver corps throughout their organized team activities.

Acquiring a No. 1 wide receiver would seem a natural move since Hester is by far the most accomplished of their receivers and has only played the position full time for one season.

“I think we’ve got one,” Cutler said about No. 1 receivers. “I think we’ve got one in Devin, and I think Earl is going to be dangerous on the back side as well.”

Smith wanted nothing to do with talk about trading for Marshall, and said the team hasn’t talked to the Broncos.

“No and I’m not even going to talk about a player that’s with someone else right now,” he said.

Cutler said he hasn’t spoken to Marshall and hasn’t talked to the Bears about Marshall.

“He’s a great player, Brandon is, and I played with him for three years, put up a lot of big numbers with him and wherever he ends up, obviously he’s going to be successful,” Cutler added. “Whether or not it’s here, that’s up to the guys upstairs.”

Cutler also said that he expected problems to develop between Marshall and the Broncos.

“I knew he was going to be unhappy if he didn’t get a new contract,” Cutler said. “I think that’s kind of the basis of the whole issue with him, is getting a new contract and, you know, if you look at it from his perspective, I can see where he’s coming from.

“But it’s one of those issues. Hopefully he’ll get it worked out. If not, he’s going to end up somewhere and he’ll be productive.”

As for Burress, Smith said “the door is never closed on anyone who’s available.”

“It’s not like we’re aggressively going after him but we evaluate everyone that we think will make our team better,” he said.


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Magnificent Seven
06-17-2009, 10:49 PM
You are kidding right?

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Why not? I think Devin Hester is awesome. He could be punt returner, WR, and RB. I think he is better than Marshall.

Broncospsycho77
06-17-2009, 11:23 PM
Why not? I think Devin Hester is awesome. He could be punt returner, WR, and RB. I think he is better than Marshall.

We got Eddie Royal for that kind of purpose, though...

pnbronco
06-18-2009, 01:00 AM
"lure?"


what does THAT mean? are they going to lay out a trail of candy bars with a trap at the end or something?


:lol:



he's kinda under contract for at least another year. . . .

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I can't get this image out of my head. So what kind of candy bars are they using??? Thanks for the laugh....:D

Nature Boy
06-18-2009, 02:10 AM
Why not? I think Devin Hester is awesome. He could be punt returner, WR, and RB. I think he is better than Marshall.

Better punt/kick returner but below average as a WR. He's also below average as a CB as that was what the Bears drafted him to do.

He might be able to make a few reverse run plays as a WR but he'll line up as a tailback.

Hester can't even begin to hold Brandon Marshall's jock as a pure catching WR. Why do you think Cutler is egging the Bear's front office to try and bring in his buddy and best receiving weapons he's ever had?

That was why I asked if you were kidding but I guess you weren't.

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