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Denver Native (Carol)
05-29-2012, 11:07 AM
When Von Miller first joined the Broncos following the 2011 NFL Draft, he said he wanted to play Robin to Elvis Dumervil’s Batman.

The Broncos’ outside pass rushers took down their share of bad guys last year in the form of opposing quarterbacks, combining for 21 sacks on the season.

Despite tying for third in the AFC with 11.5 quarterback takedowns in 2011, Miller knows he has plenty of room to improve going into his sophomore season.

“I’m not a rookie anymore,” Miller said. “I want to start to play like a vet. I just want to be in the spots that my teammates expect me to be in for crunch-time situations.”

great article - rest - http://blog.denverbroncos.com/denverbroncos/denvers-dynamic-duo/

Chef Zambini
05-29-2012, 11:23 AM
who is our run stopping duo?

underrated29
05-29-2012, 11:27 AM
who is our run stopping duo?

peyton manning and demaryius thomas

Chef Zambini
05-29-2012, 11:33 AM
if elvis and the new kid are not capable run stoppers, then I would hardly consider the duet as DYNAMIC, regardless of their pass rush capabilities.
would you call, tebow a dynamic QB?
everyone is so jacked up about our pass rush, what about stopping the run?
I hope our coaches dont share the same head in the sand mentality of the salivating denver media and some of my fellow posters.
yes "dynamic duo" is a common term for two people operating in tandem, but lets not let the common clishe get in the way of reality!
Our rookie defensive player of the year was taken off the field in key situations because of his weaknesses.

silkamilkamonico
05-29-2012, 11:37 AM
"Dynamic" imples explosiveness. Two bookend pass rushers that are capable of dougble digit sacks each, as well as turning the ball over, does indeed equal "Dynamic" in my book.

vandammage13
05-29-2012, 11:42 AM
if elvis and the new kid are not capable run stoppers, then I would hardly consider the duet as DYNAMIC, regardless of their pass rush capabilities.
would you call, tebow a dynamic QB?
everyone is so jacked up about our pass rush, what about stopping the run?
I hope our coaches dont share the same head in the sand mentality of the salivating denver media and some of my fellow posters.
yes "dynamic duo" is a common term for two people operating in tandem, but lets not let the common clishe get in the way of reality!
Our rookie defensive player of the year was taken off the field in key situations because of his weaknesses.


The first half of the last game we played makes me wonder if we can stop anything at all....

5 TD passes in one half is downright embarassing....For as much as people like to point out how opposing D's figured out our offense, our Defense was repeatedly exposed the last several weeks.

UnderArmour
05-29-2012, 11:43 AM
Elvis and Von aren't bad players against the run by any means. The reason Von was taken out was not his ineffectiveness but because of MENTAL ERRORS. Did you even watch the Broncos play last year? Remember that tackle for a loss to save the game where Von Miller beat a double team of Gates and McMichael? That was a running play. You're thinking of Aldon Smith. I assure you, Von Miller is a COMPLETE football player who had lapses in the MENTAL part of football. He wasn't pulled for his weakness against the run at all.

Denver Native (Carol)
05-29-2012, 12:30 PM
Back to the article - I like how close they are - on and off the field:


“I know Von on and off the field,” Dumervil said. “He’s a tremendous player and a tremendous person. He’s like a younger brother to me.”

“We spend a lot of time together and with his competitive nature and my competitive nature, it really makes us both better,” Miller said.

“We’re very competitive in everything we do—cards or whatever,” Dumervil added. “He comes by the house and we’re close.”

http://blog.denverbroncos.com/denverbroncos/denvers-dynamic-duo/

MOtorboat
05-29-2012, 12:36 PM
Calling them a duo, only makes me think of this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ambiguously_Gay_Duo

And ZAM seriusly dood. SHaDDup!

BroncoNut
05-29-2012, 01:01 PM
if elvis and the new kid are not capable run stoppers, then I would hardly consider the duet as DYNAMIC, regardless of their pass rush capabilities.
would you call, tebow a dynamic QB?
everyone is so jacked up about our pass rush, what about stopping the run?
I hope our coaches dont share the same head in the sand mentality of the salivating denver media and some of my fellow posters.
yes "dynamic duo" is a common term for two people operating in tandem, but lets not let the common clishe get in the way of reality!
Our rookie defensive player of the year was taken off the field in key situations because of his weaknesses.

why do you feel the need to do this ALWAYS????.

Maybe before you shit all over someone's thread you should take a look at the brown streak in your own eye (or something like that)

dogfish
05-29-2012, 02:00 PM
if elvis and the new kid are not capable run stoppers, then I would hardly consider the duet as DYNAMIC, regardless of their pass rush capabilities.
would you call, tebow a dynamic QB?
everyone is so jacked up about our pass rush, what about stopping the run?
I hope our coaches dont share the same head in the sand mentality of the salivating denver media and some of my fellow posters.
yes "dynamic duo" is a common term for two people operating in tandem, but lets not let the common clishe get in the way of reality!
Our rookie defensive player of the year was taken off the field in key situations because of his weaknesses.

does it get old being so ****ing sour about EVERYTHING. . . all the time??

:noidea:

you're also very wrong in this case. . . UA is right-- von is well on his way to being an absolute beast of a complete linebacker. . . maybe you missed the progression, but he was improving significantly against the run before he got hurt. . . give him a year or two to learn the nuances of his new position, he's going to be as good a three-down outside linebacker as any in the league. . . if he's healthy, i expect 80+ tackles, double digit sacks and solid coverage when he has to. . .

Jsteve01
05-29-2012, 02:11 PM
if elvis and the new kid are not capable run stoppers, then I would hardly consider the duet as DYNAMIC, regardless of their pass rush capabilities.
would you call, tebow a dynamic QB?
everyone is so jacked up about our pass rush, what about stopping the run?
I hope our coaches dont share the same head in the sand mentality of the salivating denver media and some of my fellow posters.
yes "dynamic duo" is a common term for two people operating in tandem, but lets not let the common clishe get in the way of reality!
Our rookie defensive player of the year was taken off the field in key situations because of his weaknesses.

do yourself a favor and read this zam. He was hands down PFF's highest rated OLB vs the run last year.

Simple Jaded
05-29-2012, 08:52 PM
who is our run stopping duo?

The sideline and goal line.......

Chef Zambini
05-30-2012, 12:30 AM
do yourself a favor and read this zam. He was hands down PFF's highest rated OLB vs the run last year.read what/ that they enjoy each others companyon and off the field?
I dont resad anything about run stopping, perhaps yopu can help an old man out! I just remeber reading how we had to take von OFFTHE FIELD in key situations because he was a liability !
but this is a pass happy leaugue with pass happy media and sacks stand out.
not as glamorous as stopping a run . not as obvious to the average viewer.
so enjoy yourselves sack happy people, read the propoganda and live the dream. its the off-season, you can avoid reality for a little while longer.

Chef Zambini
05-30-2012, 12:35 AM
does it get old being so ****ing sour about EVERYTHING. . . all the time??

:noidea:

you're also very wrong in this case. . . UA is right-- von is well on his way to being an absolute beast of a complete linebacker. . . maybe you missed the progression, but he was improving significantly against the run before he got hurt. . . give him a year or two to learn the nuances of his new position, he's going to be as good a three-down outside linebacker as any in the league. . . if he's healthy, i expect 80+ tackles, double digit sacks and solid coverage when he has to. . .so I need to give him 2 or 3 years to learn the nuances, but meanwhile he deserves the moniker dynamic?
ok, I got it.

Shananahan
05-30-2012, 12:40 AM
I'm pretty sure 'dynamic' isn't a moniker.

dogfish
05-30-2012, 12:55 AM
so I need to give him 2 or 3 years to learn the nuances, but meanwhile he deserves the moniker dynamic?
ok, I got it.

no. . . i think you should expect him to play like a hall of famer in his prime, in every aspect of his game, right off the bat. . . :lol:

that way you're sure to be disappointed, and have something to complain about. . . seems to work well for you, so why switch it up? :D why be satisfied with rookie of the year when he didn't win defensive player of the year also? the bum. . .


two can play the sarcasm game. . .

and you leave me little choice when you ignore the arguments put forth by steve and myself. . . but by all means, continue with your painful pessimism if it makes you happy in some odd way. . . the kid got much better as the year progressed, a few poor games while playing with a cast notwithstanding. . . von put up more tackles AND more sacks than demarcus ware did his rookie year-- and if you don't think ware is the definition of a dynamic OLB, then we're through here. . . what the **** more do you want?

oh, look. . . von also had more tackles, sacks AND forced fumbles than clay matthews did as a rookie! but yea. . . how could he be considered "dynamic" if he doesn't also take on blockers like jeremiah trotter? :rolleyes: it's not like he played two different positions as a rookie-- neither of which was his true college position, BTW. . . nothing dynamic about that. . .

maybe you didn't notice, but the last three healthy weeks he played, his per game tackle totals went from 7 to 9 to 10-- and he also notched 4 sacks over that period. . . are you kidding me? 19 tackles in two weeks, and you claim he didn't show major improvement against the run? you're going to hold it against him that he wasn't lawrence freakin' taylor his first month in the league? or that his play tapered off late in the season, playing with a cast? if that's the case, your expectations are beyond ridiculous. . .

Chef Zambini
05-30-2012, 01:25 AM
jonathan vilma defensive rookie of the year. how long did he stay with his original team/ what is he up to now?
I like von, he did improve over the course of the season. he may be a perrenial pro-bowler, I sure hope so.
I remain concerned about our ability to stop the RUN! something von is not getting high m,arks for.
enjoy your happy little story about the denver dynamic duo, dont let me spoil your enjoyment.
wwhat was our defensive ranking last year against the run?

MOtorboat
05-30-2012, 07:25 AM
Projecting any of Denver's inability to stop the run on the best player is so unbelievably stupid.

It's not even logical, but leave it to zam, the guy who blames any passing yards given up on the best corner in the game...

Seriously, Zam, how do you come up with this backwards logic?

silkamilkamonico
05-30-2012, 08:23 AM
jonathan vilma defensive rookie of the year. how long did he stay with his original team/ what is he up to now?
I like von, he did improve over the course of the season. he may be a perrenial pro-bowler, I sure hope so.
I remain concerned about our ability to stop the RUN! something von is not getting high m,arks for.
enjoy your happy little story about the denver dynamic duo, dont let me spoil your enjoyment.
wwhat was our defensive ranking last year against the run?

"Our" ability to stop the run doesn't take away the FACT both Dumervil and Miller are "dynamic".

Was Peyton Manning and Reggie Wayne NOT a dynamic duo in Indianapolis because they couldn't run the ball?

Jsteve01
05-30-2012, 08:25 AM
read what/ that they enjoy each others companyon and off the field?
I dont resad anything about run stopping, perhaps yopu can help an old man out! I just remeber reading how we had to take von OFFTHE FIELD in key situations because he was a liability !
but this is a pass happy leaugue with pass happy media and sacks stand out.
not as glamorous as stopping a run . not as obvious to the average viewer.
so enjoy yourselves sack happy people, read the propoganda and live the dream. its the off-season, you can avoid reality for a little while longer.


Read this. I didn't post a link last time http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/12/01/stories-of-the-season-miller-much-more-than-the-roy/

He had almost twice the efficiency vs the run of the next highest rated lber. Who to put it in perspective has been the top lber in the league over the previous three seasons vs the run. So poopoo all you like but he is getting high marks vs the run. your assertion is bunk. I'll buy the idea that doom is subpar vs the run but not Von

DenBronx
05-30-2012, 01:47 PM
"Dynamic" imples explosiveness. Two bookend pass rushers that are capable of dougble digit sacks each, as well as turning the ball over, does indeed equal "Dynamic" in my book.

Same here and that combo could be deadly with a Manning lead offense. If we get up by alot and force teams to throw it then the QBs will have nightmares of VonDoom.

Chef Zambini
05-31-2012, 08:52 AM
Read this. I didn't post a link last time http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/12/01/stories-of-the-season-miller-much-more-than-the-roy/

He had almost twice the efficiency vs the run of the next highest rated lber. Who to put it in perspective has been the top lber in the league over the previous three seasons vs the run. So poopoo all you like but he is getting high marks vs the run. your assertion is bunk. I'll buy the idea that doom is subpar vs the run but not Vonthis is very enightning reading and I thank you for posting it.

TXBRONC
05-31-2012, 08:59 AM
Back to the article - I like how close they are - on and off the field:



http://blog.denverbroncos.com/denverbroncos/denvers-dynamic-duo/

Did you notice how Dumervil says younger brother not little brother? :D

Chef Zambini
05-31-2012, 09:36 AM
pros proximity, pornograghic perhaps?

Jsteve01
06-01-2012, 07:14 AM
this is very enightning reading and I thank you for posting it.

that's why i love you zam.

BroncoNut
06-01-2012, 05:26 PM
zam, do the world a favor and ride fyour bike from the top of camelback mountain with no hands