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dogfish
10-24-2007, 09:30 PM
just what the thread title says-- stokley is currently on a one year deal, we need to lock him up for a few more years. . . he has been a very solid producer for us so far, and has a lot to offer this offense. . . he's a nice veteran presence that helps steady our young offense, and that could be even more valuable next year with rod and nails potentially being gone. . . he's also a very reliable target on third downs, a guy who knows how to get quick seperation on the intermediate routes. . .

we just don't have much depth a receiver right now, and unfortunately both of our top guys are facing some questions. . . marshall continues to struggle with immaturity, as evidenced by his stupid DUI-- i don't know whether that will draw any kind of suspension, but even if it doesn't i believe it'll land him in the substance abuse program, where another violation most certainly WOULD lead to a suspension. . . hopefully he learns from it and does some growing up, but you can never take those things for granted. . . and i'm very, very concerned now about the long-term health of javon's knee. . . stokley provides a very nice safety net if one of those two guys misses time, and even if they don't he's a damn good slot receiver that adds another dimension to our offense. . .

also, i would think we'd be able to get something done without breaking the bank. . . stokley was considering retirement before we signed him, but he obviously has something left in the tank, and aging receivers around the league have been extending their careers since the implimentation of the illegal contact rule. . . shanahan has a reputation for treating veteran players well, and i doubt stokley really wants to start over with another team again at this point in his career-- he'd probably be happy to sign a fair offer for a few years. . . we should get it done. . .

TXBRONC
10-24-2007, 09:36 PM
I couldn't agree more. Shanahan has said that Stokely is the best slot receiver he has ever had. I don't think he is exaggerating, from what I have seen of Stokely. So I agree extending Stokely an extension would be a very good idea.

DenBronx
10-24-2007, 09:49 PM
add dume and bmarsh to the list.

TXBRONC
10-24-2007, 10:53 PM
add dume and bmarsh to the list.

I think I would wait one more year those two, or I would at least wait until the end of the season and then evaluate whether or not it would be a good idea to extend them a longer contract.

Requiem / The Dagda
10-25-2007, 12:55 AM
As much as I'd like to see our younger budding stars get extended early, they more than likely would never do it. Market reasons.

DenBronx
10-25-2007, 01:20 AM
I think I would wait one more year those two, or I would at least wait until the end of the season and then evaluate whether or not it would be a good idea to extend them a longer contract.

it would be a mistake to wait on dumervil. he is the best pass rush we have had since hayward. why wait on this?

id like stokely to sign a 3 year deal with incentives. i figure rice not be back next year and he hasnt shown any reason to stay on the team. our rookies are outplaying him...injury or no injury he hasnt stepped up when we needed him and as far as im concerned part of that 3 mill should go to stokely.

broncosfanscott
10-25-2007, 02:26 AM
add dume and bmarsh to the list.

Those two plus Stokley..........no brainer on that one.

Retired_Member_001
10-25-2007, 08:34 AM
Dumervil needs a new, longer contract RIGHT NOW! We need to secure his long-term future because I am sure other teams would give up alot to get him on their roster.

Stokley definitley needs to be given an early extension. I agree you with Dogfish, he always get's open at key times. If we don't re-sign him early, be sure the big teams will want to sign him.

I think giving Marshall a long contract would be a risk. You don't want to hand him a 5 year contract or something and then have him get busted for something stupid and have him suspended. Just as Henry shouldn't have been given such a big, long contract we shouldn't give Marshall a big contract. When you know a player is susceptible to doing stupid things, you should not hand them a big and long contract.

underrated29
10-25-2007, 09:33 AM
i agree.

I dont know if dume is a rfa, but i would rather put a dbl 1st rd tender on him. He is good, but i think we could do more with multiple 1st rd picks.

It will never happen im sure, so we do need to secure him long term.

Lonestar
10-25-2007, 10:51 AM
i agree.

I dont know if dume is a rfa, but i would rather put a dbl 1st rd tender on him. He is good, but i think we could do more with multiple 1st rd picks.

It will never happen im sure, so we do need to secure him long term.

We have him under contract through 2009. I suspect next year during the season he will get a better contract. Not until then it defeasts the purpose for getting/signing rookie contracts..

Player Info
Draft Info

DE (#)
Year: 2006

Denver Broncos
Round: 4

MIami, FL
Position: 29

Salary History

2006 275000.00
2007 360000.00
2008 445000.00
2009 530000.00

DenBronx
10-25-2007, 12:23 PM
We have him under contract through 2009. I suspect next year during the season he will get a better contract. Not until then it defeasts the purpose for getting/signing rookie contracts..

Player Info
Draft Info

DE (#)
Year: 2006

Denver Broncos
Round: 4

MIami, FL
Position: 29

Salary History

2006 275000.00
2007 360000.00
2008 445000.00
2009 530000.00


it would be cool if we could keep him under those terms but i just fear that he does produce probowl numbers and then holds out for a mega contract or demands a trade. if the broncos are smart they will negotiate early and then they have him on the hook. the latest they should do this is by middle of next season.

he had like 23 1/2 sacks his last year of college. this guys got a motor that wont quit and i like the example as a 2nd year player he is setting for moss and crowder.

DenBronx
10-25-2007, 12:26 PM
dogfish: sorry i highjacked your thread with possible other player contracts.

if shanny thinks stokely is the best slot reciever then why is he waiting to give stokely a 3yr deal? he is pretty cheap for what he brings to the table.

broncofanatic1987
10-25-2007, 12:38 PM
dogfish: sorry i highjacked your thread with possible other player contracts.

if shanny thinks stokely is the best slot reciever then why is he waiting to give stokely a 3yr deal? he is pretty cheap for what he brings to the table.

They've only played 6 games. Shanahan could be waiting until he is reasonably certain that Stokley is going to make it through this season healthy. Don't forget, he was rehabbing an injury when he got to Denver.

DenBronx
10-25-2007, 01:35 PM
Don't forget, he was rehabbing an injury when he got to Denver.


clearly he isnt rehabbing anymore.

Lonestar
10-25-2007, 01:46 PM
it would be cool if we could keep him under those terms but i just fear that he does produce probowl numbers and then holds out for a mega contract or demands a trade. if the broncos are smart they will negotiate early and then they have him on the hook. the latest they should do this is by middle of next season.

he had like 23 1/2 sacks his last year of college. this guys got a motor that wont quit and i like the example as a 2nd year player he is setting for moss and crowder.

I would say that Mikey's stance has always been not to redo contracts for anyone prior to the going into the last season.

There is a reason for that, he is obligated to play for DEN until his contract is done should he decide to withhold his services then it is for the betterment of the team to let him go.. IMO

No one player IMO is above living up to his word when signing a contract.

And do not go into the time worn rant about the NFL contracts being one sided, that the team can cut them at any time, it is unfair.

I do not care. never have never will no exceptions for failure in this area. No one held a gun to his head to force the signing of the contract. He could have always re-entered the draft next year. The broncos took a flyer on him and he is being paid real good money considering no one else had stepped up to the plate and most likely none would have in the draft.

Stokely on the other hand should be resigned for as many years as mikey can get him to.

Requiem / The Dagda
10-25-2007, 02:22 PM
When it comes to contracts Denver almost always let's their players test the market. That's where the respect factor comes in.

dogfish
10-25-2007, 02:28 PM
When it comes to contracts Denver almost always let's their players test the market. That's where the respect factor comes in.



maybe they need to respect their fans a little more and freakin' get it done. . . .


i remember when al wilson was nearing the end of his rookie deal-- he was practically begging for an extension! and instead of just giving him one, they ended up wasting a 2nd rounder on terry useless-ass pierce. . . :tsk: in that instance, it looks more like "let's have 'em test the market and see if we can keep 'em on the cheap". . . c'mon, FO-- between yourselves and the agents you should be able to figure out what a fair deal is without letting the market make that determination every time. . .

Watchthemiddle
10-25-2007, 02:31 PM
The TE on most teams are usually a forgotten comodity. Same can be said for a quaility slot reciever. Stokley is one of the best in the league. I would put him and Wes Welker at the top right now.

I have no problem re-signing him, but I want to see him used more. Maybe its the absence of Walker, but it doesn't seem to me like he is used the way he should be used.

Oh how I long for a complete and healthy WR core for 16 games. Walker, Marshall on the outside. Stokley in the slot...Sheffler and Graham at TE. Who are you goign to cover???

I would think we would re-sign him for the very reason I listed above. He cannot fully be utilized the way a slot WR of his ability can be utilized without the other compliment of players around him being on the field as well.

Requiem / The Dagda
10-25-2007, 02:53 PM
maybe they need to respect their fans a little more and freakin' get it done. . . .


i remember when al wilson was nearing the end of his rookie deal-- he was practically begging for an extension! and instead of just giving him one, they ended up wasting a 2nd rounder on terry useless-ass pierce. . . :tsk: in that instance, it looks more like "let's have 'em test the market and see if we can keep 'em on the cheap". . . c'mon, FO-- between yourselves and the agents you should be able to figure out what a fair deal is without letting the market make that determination every time. . .

Well, for a long-time Denver was a little low on cap space and they actually didn't believe they'd be able to get a Wilson deal done.

I'd actually like to see Denver becoming more pro-active in signing their good players, but you have to understand there is an agent on the other side of the table who wants what's in his best interest, and what's in the interest of his client.

There are definitely pros to a kid like Dumervil signing an extension to his deal right now here in Denver, but then again from their perspective (and various others) there are cons. At this point in time, Marshall and Dumervil would be absolutely stupid if they accepted any deal (barring a career threatening injury) that the Broncos offered them, unless they loved the team that much, the city that much, and the game that much to take below market-dollar value for their services.

If Elvis and Brandon continue to flourish, anything they'd be offer now would be pennies compared to what they can get on the market. Pass rush specialists are getting tens of millions of dollars, and it's hard to find a better specialist in the league than Elvis, who is assuming the role of a starting player the more he progresses and gains experience. The same goes with Brandon. He's not playing like a Pro-Bowler, but he's coming into his own through a little more than a season's worth of experience and is the leading receiver on the team.

Could these players get paid in Denver? Absolutely. Would they like that security of job insurance given by an extension now? Of course. However, they know it, and their agents know it - that if they keep up their superb play for another year or so, when their contracts will be up (2009) - they'll have the ability to get top dollar. The cap is going to continue to increase, and so will the salaries of every player. But somewhere out there, there will always be teams desperate who are vying for the services of the best and the brightest youth crop out there, and those are teams who probably have more money than Denver ever will be able to give their players.

Another thing from Denver's perspective is how they've been bitten hard by giving out big contracts to good players, and how the players became complacent and settled for second best after getting the big dollar. It happens a lot.

As much as I'd like to see extensions given to Dumervil and Marshall, it's really unlikely it's going to happen. Maybe at the end of next year, but certainly not this year. Too many variables in it to make things work, unless they are absolutely set on spending their careers in Denver. You just don't find that in sports much anymore, and the almighty dollar is probably the biggest reason.

Lonestar
10-25-2007, 02:57 PM
lets get back on topic here that is Stokely..

If you wish to discuss Dumervil or others create a thread..

Requiem / The Dagda
10-25-2007, 03:06 PM
lets get back on topic here that is Stokely..

If you wish to discuss Dumervil or others create a thread..

Posters discussed Stokley getting extended, and I made a response to Dogfish who ended up talking about Denver's policies on extending players contracts. I'm pretty sure my thoughts are on topic. If Dogfish has a problem with it, he can let me know. Until then, my post will stand and I look forward to his response back to me.

Thanks.

WAB
10-25-2007, 04:58 PM
I agree. It's about time we had some production from secondary receivers. He's only 31, and with his route running and vet savvy, I think he'll stay productive for a while (Bobby Engram).

As for Doom and B-Marsh, when was the last time anyone gave a 2nd year player (actually, like 1.5 year player) a major extension? There's no precedent for it.

Lonestar
10-25-2007, 05:07 PM
I agree. It's about time we had some production from secondary receivers. He's only 31, and with his route running and vet savvy, I think he'll stay productive for a while (Bobby Engram).

As for Doom and B-Marsh, when was the last time anyone gave a 2nd year player (actually, like 1.5 year player) a major extension? There's no precedent for it.

He is a great number 2.5 he plays the slot extraordinarily well. Runs a great route and once Jay gets real comfortable with him I see no reason he should not be a great choice for years to come he does not rely solely on speed to get open like solely former WR's did.

Requiem / The Dagda
10-25-2007, 05:52 PM
I agree. It's about time we had some production from secondary receivers. He's only 31, and with his route running and vet savvy, I think he'll stay productive for a while (Bobby Engram).

As for Doom and B-Marsh, when was the last time anyone gave a 2nd year player (actually, like 1.5 year player) a major extension? There's no precedent for it.

Probably Mike Patterson. ;)

DenBronx
10-25-2007, 05:56 PM
He is a great number 2.5 he plays the slot extraordinarily well. Runs a great route and once Jay gets real comfortable with him I see no reason he should not be a great choice for years to come he does not rely solely on speed to get open like solely former WR's did.

stokely could be an easy number 2 on the likes of teams like the chargers, raiders or chiefs. :deal:

dogfish
10-25-2007, 06:13 PM
Posters discussed Stokley getting extended, and I made a response to Dogfish who ended up talking about Denver's policies on extending players contracts. I'm pretty sure my thoughts are on topic. If Dogfish has a problem with it, he can let me know. Until then, my post will stand and I look forward to his response back to me.

Thanks.

no problems as far as i'm concerned. . .


JR, i appreciate your desire to keep my thread on-topic, but as long as the discussion follows a natural progression from the original topic, it's fine with me if it branches out a little. . .


dream, i'm completely aware of all the factors you cited. . . those are some of the reasons that i started a thread saying stokley should be extended, not doom or the air marshall-- of course in an ideal world those are the guys who should be at the top of the priority list, but stokley is much more realistic at this juncture, for the reasons that i initially cited. . . i think it would make sense for us to extend him now rather than letting him hit the market, and i think it's likely that he'd be amenable to taking a fair extension rather than relocating again at this point in his career. . .

i DO believe that every possible effort should be made to extend elvis next year. . . it's pretty common practice for teams to re-sign their top young players before they hit the market, and in most cases it works out well for both the player and the club. . . the player gets the security of having a fat chunk of guaranteed money, and the club generally gets to structure the extension in a way that gives them some immediate cap relief. . . you more often than not don't see guys like carson palmer or larry johnson hitting the market unless they have a specific reason or desire to play somewhere else, or if the club isn't seriously interested in keeping them. . . also, they get to avoid the franchise tag, which no one really wants to play under-- too much risk of getting hurt and not getting that big payday, or having a down year and having to settle for less. . .

elvis is the best DL we've drafted since pryce, they'd be utterly stupid not to at least make a serious attempt at locking him up before he can hit the market. . . and with his motor, i have little fear of him getting complacent-- he's got that "little man's complex," he'll always play with a chip on his shoulder. . .

patterson was exactly the example i was thinking of, and while i doubt we'll ever be that extreme, there's no good reason why we can't re-sign talented core players a year before their rookie deal is up-- most other teams do it, and the players rarely ever complain of being disrespected because they weren't able to test the market when they're pocketing giant bonuses. . .


but yea, on the original topic-- stokley should be within easy grasp, they should get it done and take part of the cap hit this year if possible. . .

Lonestar
10-25-2007, 08:37 PM
stokely could be an easy number 2 on the likes of teams like the chargers, raiders or chiefs. :deal:

He is really only a slot receiver and would probably be ineffective split out wide.

Is he better than there number one or two absolutely but his strength is short precise routes and the #3 look in most progressions.

TXBRONC
10-25-2007, 09:05 PM
He is really only a slot receiver and would probably be ineffective split out wide.

Is he better than there number one or two absolutely but his strength is short precise routes and the #3 look in most progressions.


He proved that erroneous on Sunday night. He is still a wide receiver, and has made a living at being in the slot however, Sunday night is proof he can play on the outside as well.

DenBronx
10-25-2007, 09:16 PM
He proved that erroneous on Sunday night. He is still a wide receiver, and has made a living at being in the slot however, Sunday night is proof he can play on the outside as well.

which of course only makes him more valuable. and i like what dogfish said about possibly signing him to a long term deal this year so we can at least absorb some of the salary this year...could be a couple mil left in the cap.

Stargazer
10-25-2007, 09:29 PM
I say no to Stokely getting an extension before the season ends. Stokely needs to play a full season before another contract is talked about.

And definately a hell no to BMarshall and Elvis getting an early extension this season.

DenBronx
10-25-2007, 09:42 PM
I say no to Stokely getting an extension before the season ends. Stokely needs to play a full season before another contract is talked about.

And definately a hell no to BMarshall and Elvis getting an early extension this season.

well im glad your not working in the front office.

why does stokely need to play out the whole year? do you think he needs to prove himself? to you? to the broncos? no, he proved that he was worthy for years when he was in indy. did walker need to prove himself for a year after he was traded from green bay? no, the broncos restructured his deal right away.

Stargazer
10-25-2007, 09:51 PM
well im glad your not working in the front office.

do you think he needs to prove himself? to you? to the broncos?


Yes, yes and yes.

He's a veteran coming off a serious injury. He needs to prove he can last an entire year. Not 6 games. He's on a one year contract which is all he deserved. He hasn't even played 1/2 of the season yet you want to throw money out there. Makes absolutely no sense from a front office position. And I'm glad you're not working the front office.

DenBronx
10-25-2007, 10:06 PM
Yes, yes and yes.

He's a veteran coming off a serious injury. He needs to prove he can last an entire year. Not 6 games. He's on a one year contract which is all he deserved. He hasn't even played 1/2 of the season yet you want to throw money out there. Makes absolutely no sense from a front office position. And I'm glad you're not working the front office.


dude your tweakin.

Lonestar
10-25-2007, 10:32 PM
He proved that erroneous on Sunday night. He is still a wide receiver, and has made a living at being in the slot however, Sunday night is proof he can play on the outside as well.

What he did is a bang up and good job. But he is not a true WR while he can play there, so could Scheffler and Graham it does not play to their strengths.

Can he do it sure but do you play someone out of position for any other reason than you have to.

Do you think he can consistently beat the number one or two CB on most teams?

Or is it better to play him in the slot? Where he goes at the number 3 or 4 CB.

After a couple of weeks playing straight WR the Defensive Coordinators are gonna take him out of the picture. They are not stupid.

Stargazer
10-25-2007, 10:33 PM
dude your tweakin.

It's simple. We disagree to give him an extension after only 6 games.

Stargazer
10-25-2007, 10:38 PM
Do you think he can consistently beat the number one or two CB on most teams?

Or is it better to play him in the slot? Where he goes at the number 3 or 4 CB.

After a couple of weeks playing straight WR the Defensive Coordinators are gonna take him out of the picture. They are not stupid.

I don't. There's a reason he plays in the slot. He's going up against 3/4th and banged up/rookie CB's. He didn't make a living playing on the ends. And I do agree DC will take him out.

Lonestar
10-25-2007, 10:39 PM
I don't. There's a reason he plays in the slot. He's going up against 3/4th and banged up/rookie CB's. He didn't make a living playing on the ends. And I do agree DC will take him out.

your wise beyond your years..

WAB
10-25-2007, 11:27 PM
Probably Mike Patterson. ;)

I almost put in a disclaimer for him.

That was after two full years of solid play, and you have to admit that Philly was a little "progressive" in doing what they did. I don't think you'll find many players or agents who are willing to lock-in to a deal like that. In 3 or 4 years, that deal is going to be EXTREMELY below market value.

I believe they also did it with Trent Cole.

Stargazer
10-25-2007, 11:38 PM
your wise beyond your years..

It's tough playing in the slot when Wayne & Harrison are commanding all the attention.

WAB
10-25-2007, 11:39 PM
I say no to Stokely getting an extension before the season ends. Stokely needs to play a full season before another contract is talked about.

And definately a hell no to BMarshall and Elvis getting an early extension this season.

He'll probably end up going to FA...he signed a one year deal for a reason.

Stargazer
10-26-2007, 12:14 AM
He'll probably end up going to FA...he signed a one year deal for a reason.

One year deal. Recover from injury. Play the best he can for a full season. Look for possible new offers after the season is over. Key depends on how well he plays the entire season.

fcspikeit
10-26-2007, 12:17 AM
Makes absolutely no sense from a front office position.

makes no sense? Where would we be right now without Stokley? If its injuries your worried about then we never should have signed Walker to a long deal because he has been hurt a lot!

If Stokley continues to play the way he is now and we don't get him signed early he will not be here next year! With the way he is playing his price will sky rocket in FA. So it makes all the sense in the world for our FO to sign him now if they want him on the team for years to come.

The guy can play! He shows up every week and does his job. Does he have the skills of Moss? NO but right now he is the only reason we still have a passing game. Who would we have without him besides B Marsh? Are you really willing to trust Walker will be injure free next year and let the 2nd or 3rd best WR on our team go?

The guy makes his living catching balls across the middle. Do you get that? He has been doing it for years. He wouldn't have lasted as long as he has if he wasn't tuff. He healed ahead of schedule and has been working his butt of ever since. If our FO is smart they will get a deal worked out with him before the end of the season.

Stargazer
10-26-2007, 01:46 AM
makes no sense? Where would we be right now without Stokley? If its injuries your worried about then we never should have signed Walker to a long deal because he has been hurt a lot!

If Stokley continues to play the way he is now and we don't get him signed early he will not be here next year! With the way he is playing his price will sky rocket in FA. So it makes all the sense in the world for our FO to sign him now if they want him on the team for years to come.

The guy can play! He shows up every week and does his job. Does he have the skills of Moss? NO but right now he is the only reason we still have a passing game. Who would we have without him besides B Marsh? Are you really willing to trust Walker will be injure free next year and let the 2nd or 3rd best WR on our team go?

The guy makes his living catching balls across the middle. Do you get that? He has been doing it for years. He wouldn't have lasted as long as he has if he wasn't tuff. He healed ahead of schedule and has been working his butt of ever since. If our FO is smart they will get a deal worked out with him before the end of the season.

So much yack in this thread, and no long-term deal offered after 6 games. It's not happening folks. Maybe for some of you it will happen with 2 games left in the season. And don't count on that either. He's on a 1 year deal folks. Live with it. The decision to keep & possibly offer Stokely another contract will happen when the season is over.

Requiem / The Dagda
10-26-2007, 09:29 AM
I almost put in a disclaimer for him.

That was after two full years of solid play, and you have to admit that Philly was a little "progressive" in doing what they did. I don't think you'll find many players or agents who are willing to lock-in to a deal like that. In 3 or 4 years, that deal is going to be EXTREMELY below market value.

I believe they also did it with Trent Cole.

Yeah, it was unprecedented, and it's the only argument I can give for something like that. Look at it this way, even with bonuses, the Eagles have Patterson locked up until 2016 at around 30 million dollars. For one of the best defensive tackles (younger) in the game, that's pennies for a decade of service.

fcspikeit
10-26-2007, 11:37 AM
So much yack in this thread, and no long-term deal offered after 6 games. It's not happening folks. Maybe for some of you it will happen with 2 games left in the season. And don't count on that either. He's on a 1 year deal folks. Live with it. The decision to keep & possibly offer Stokely another contract will happen when the season is over.

Shanny has already stated how impressed he is with Stokley, He is not blind or dumb. All he has to do is watch a game to see what Stokley brings to this team.

Don't be surprised if we get a deal worked out with him before the end of week 14

broncosinindy
10-29-2007, 08:29 AM
No doubt in my mind we have to extend stokely. Friggin Bmarsh grow up dude.

DenBronx
10-30-2007, 10:03 PM
:bump2:
mr. slot machine brandon stokely is on pace to have close to 700 yards recieving, 5 tds and averages 14.5 yards a catch. not bad for a guy that can play the slot. plus he is money in clutch time situations as we saw last night.

does this not validate him getting an extension???

if not i dont know what does.

Stand Ablaze
12-07-2007, 08:53 PM
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_7663775

By Bill Williamson
The Denver Post
Article Last Updated: 12/07/2007 06:10:07 PM MST

The Broncos have rewarded receiver Brandon Stokley with a three-year contract extension, according to a source close to the situation.

Stokley, 31, has 39 catches for 614 yards and four touchdowns this season. He signed a one-year contract in March as a free agent.

He moved into the starting lineup when No. 1 receiver Javon Walker went down with a knee injury and was forced to miss seven games.

Terms of the deal were not disclosed.

The new deal developed quickly today. The two sides had talked in previous weeks about a possible extension but had decided to table discussions until the offseason.

However, because of Stokley's strong contributions in recent weeks the Broncos decided to secure his rights.

Watchthemiddle
12-07-2007, 08:59 PM
Thats the first good offseason move this year....:beer:

fcspikeit
12-07-2007, 09:09 PM
Outstanding! Stokley has played hard for us this year. I am extremely glad Shanahan and co decided to give him a much deserved extension :salute:

I remember there was a thread on here a couple weeks ago about this very subject. Some who posted there said "Shanahan will not give him an extension until the off season". I guess they don't know Shanahan as well as they thought ;)

Tned
12-07-2007, 09:09 PM
Considering the way he played, I think this was a smart move. He clearly has plenty left in the tank. Once Javon is healthy, he and Marshall as 1 and 2 and Stokely in the slot should be a powerful trio.

topscribe
12-07-2007, 09:18 PM
Considering the way he played, I think this was a smart move. He clearly has plenty left in the tank. Once Javon is healthy, he and Marshall as 1 and 2 and Stokely in the slot should be a powerful trio.
. . . Or, as Marshall put it, "I feel sorry for the defenses who are going to have to play us." :woot:

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TXBRONC
12-07-2007, 09:21 PM
This means I got my first Christmas gift for this year.

BaiLeY324
12-07-2007, 09:21 PM
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Requiem / The Dagda
12-07-2007, 09:46 PM
Hey Top, now about me saying. . . "Who knows if Stokley will be back!" -- Now we do. . . great extension. :)

Simple Jaded
12-07-2007, 09:49 PM
This is great news for the Broncos, imo.

They'll need to extend another WR next year, too......

Stand Ablaze
12-07-2007, 09:58 PM
This is great news for the Broncos, imo.

They'll need to extend another WR next year, too......

Which one? :confused:

Simple Jaded
12-07-2007, 10:04 PM
Which one? :confused:

I believe Marshall signed a three year contract as a rookie, next year is his 3rd year.

I'll see if I can find anything to confirm that......

saddletramp
12-07-2007, 10:06 PM
time will tell I suppose.


Good luck, Stok

Stand Ablaze
12-07-2007, 10:11 PM
I believe Marshall signed a three year contract as a rookie, next year is his 3rd year.

I'll see if I can find anything to confirm that......

On Rotoworld.com it says he signed a 4-year contract. The deal included a $420,000 signing bonus. 2007: $360,000, 2008: $445,000, 2009: $530,000, 2010: Free Agent

Requiem / The Dagda
12-07-2007, 10:16 PM
That's a hell of a deal if that's true. . .

I think it's insurance for Walker. . . honestly.

pnbronco
12-07-2007, 10:31 PM
Yes, that's great news!!!!

champbronc2
12-07-2007, 10:42 PM
That is great news!:beer:

Simple Jaded
12-07-2007, 10:56 PM
On Rotowire.com it says he signed a 4-year contract. The deal included a $420,000 signing bonus. 2007: $360,000, 2008: $445,000, 2009: $530,000, 2010: Free Agent


Cool!....They should extend him anyways...:D...

TXBRONC
12-07-2007, 10:59 PM
Cool!....They should extend him anyways...:D...

They might.

DenBronx
12-07-2007, 11:53 PM
this topics been brought up in these forums a couple of times. the funny thing is that some of you said earlier that it wouldnt be smart to resign him now...meaning that you thought he should play out the full year first then resign him.....and i totally disagree.

this was an outstanding move by the broncos to resign stoke. he has alot of good football left in him and he doesnt command high dollar to make plays.

now, i think bmarsh should get a restructured deal next and then on to elvis.

DenBronx
12-07-2007, 11:55 PM
Outstanding! Stokley has played hard for us this year. I am extremely glad Shanahan and co decided to give him a much deserved extension :salute:

I remember there was a thread on here a couple weeks ago about this very subject. Some who posted there said "Shanahan will not give him an extension until the off season". I guess they don't know Shanahan as well as they thought ;)


i remember that and i could name a few names but i'll be a good sport and not say "i told you so." :D

DenBronx
12-07-2007, 11:57 PM
On Rotowire.com it says he signed a 4-year contract. The deal included a $420,000 signing bonus. 2007: $360,000, 2008: $445,000, 2009: $530,000, 2010: Free Agent

wow thats highway robbery! i dont know if thats true or not but sweet deal by the broncos if it is. stokely is the most underated wr in the nfl....and thats a fact.

TXBRONC
12-08-2007, 12:00 AM
this topics been brought up in these forums a couple of times. the funny thing is that some of you said earlier that it wouldnt be smart to resign him now...meaning that you thought he should play out the full year first then resign him.....and i totally disagree.

this was an outstanding move by the broncos to resign stoke. he has alot of good football left in him and he doesnt command high dollar to make plays.

now, i think bmarsh should get a restructured deal next and then on to elvis.


It was a great move, Stokley is a very good receiver and has proven that while he excells at playing in the slot he can also play on the outside.

Lonestar
12-08-2007, 12:01 AM
Thats the first good offseason move this year....:beer:


just maybe ever.. :salute:

Lonestar
12-08-2007, 12:04 AM
I believe Marshall signed a three year contract as a rookie, next year is his 3rd year.

I'll see if I can find anything to confirm that......


He is contractually committed through 2009

Marshall, Brandon

Year: 2006

Denver Broncos
Round: 4

Highlands Ranch, CO
Position: 22

Salary History

2006 275000.00
2007 360000.00
2008 445000.00
2009 530000.00

DenBronx
12-08-2007, 12:06 AM
It was a great move, Stokley is a very good receiver and has proven that while he excells at playing in the slot he can also play on the outside.

i love wrs that have strong route running abilities and hands of glue. he usually knows just the perfect time to be open. i think a healthy jwalk back and this offense is going to be dangerous.

Stand Ablaze
12-08-2007, 12:12 AM
wow thats highway robbery! i dont know if thats true or not but sweet deal by the broncos if it is. stokely is the most underated wr in the nfl....and thats a fact.

I was talking about Brandon Marshall's contract details, not Stokleys. :laugh:

Lonestar
12-08-2007, 12:14 AM
I was talking about Brandon Marshall's contract details, not Stokleys. :laugh:

listed above but I'll repeat them

Marshall, Brandon
View Stats at Players Inc Site
Player Info
Draft Info

WR (#)
Year: 2006

Denver Broncos
Round: 4

Highlands Ranch, CO
Position: 22

Salary History

2006 275000.00
2007 360000.00
2008 445000.00
2009 530000.00

Lonestar
12-08-2007, 12:26 AM
On Rotoworld.com it says he signed a 4-year contract. The deal included a $420,000 signing bonus. 2007: $360,000, 2008: $445,000, 2009: $530,000, 2010: Free Agent


Here is an actual from NFLPA

His old contract was for 720k for 2007 so the numbers above I think are wrong. I do not know why they would give money back for 2007 since it is almost over..


Stokley, Brandon
View Stats at Players Inc Site
Player Info
Draft Info

WR (#80)
Year: 1999

Denver Broncos
Round: 4

Lafayette, LA
Position: 10

Salary History

2007 720000.00

TXBRONC
12-08-2007, 12:29 AM
i love wrs that have strong route running abilities and hands of glue. he usually knows just the perfect time to be open. i think a healthy jwalk back and this offense is going to be dangerous.


I agree, but we also have to keep everyone reasonably healthy as well.

dogfish
12-08-2007, 10:42 AM
So much yack in this thread, and no long-term deal offered after 6 games. It's not happening folks. Maybe for some of you it will happen with 2 games left in the season. And don't count on that either. He's on a 1 year deal folks. Live with it. The decision to keep & possibly offer Stokely another contract will happen when the season is over.



four games left, actually. . . .


ya win some, ya lose some. . . . ;)

dogfish
12-08-2007, 10:45 AM
I remember there was a thread on here a couple weeks ago about this very subject. Some who posted there said "Shanahan will not give him an extension until the off season". I guess they don't know Shanahan as well as they thought ;)


i remember that and i could name a few names but i'll be a good sport and not say "i told you so." :D



i won't. . . already bumped the old thread. . . . :D



this was a smart move, and an easy decision to make-- good deal for everyone involved, and another example of shanahan is loyal to vets who play hard for him. . . .

SR
12-08-2007, 10:51 AM
Here is an actual from NFLPA

His old contract was for 720k for 2007 so the numbers above I think are wrong. I do not know why they would give money back for 2007 since it is almost over..


Stokley, Brandon
View Stats at Players Inc Site
Player Info
Draft Info

WR (#80)
Year: 1999

Denver Broncos
Round: 4

Lafayette, LA
Position: 10

Salary History

2007 720000.00

He was talking about Marshall's contract. Have another cup of coffee Jim.

DenBronx
12-08-2007, 11:55 AM
He is really only a slot receiver and would probably be ineffective split out wide.

Is he better than there number one or two absolutely but his strength is short precise routes and the #3 look in most progressions.

well, i think he proved he can play wide out as well in jwalks absence. i think thats the main reason for this extension in the first place. he played more than just the slot in baltimore and then when he went to indy he really had no choice but to play the slot with harrison and wayne playing wide outs. nothing better than a wr that can transition easily when needed.

TXBRONC
12-08-2007, 11:36 PM
well, i think he proved he can play wide out as well in jwalks absence. i think thats the main reason for this extension in the first place. he played more than just the slot in baltimore and then when he went to indy he really had no choice but to play the slot with harrison and wayne playing wide outs. nothing better than a wr that can transition easily when needed.

I agree, while Stokley's reputation has been forged by excelling in the slot the guy can obviously can play on the outside. His numbers since his move to starting wide receiver have been solid.

Simple Jaded
12-08-2007, 11:55 PM
I agree, while Stokley's reputation has been forged by excelling in the slot the guy can obviously can play on the outside. His numbers since his move to starting wide receiver have been solid.

That's exactly it, TX, Stokley is just a football player.

Has anybody else noticed Marshall and Walker going to Stokley after a play and asking for imput? I've noticed it several times, he kinda seems to be the leader of that group this year.

Maybe it's just me......

broncosfanscott
12-09-2007, 12:00 AM
I am glad to see that the Broncos and Stokley agree on a 3-yr contract extension securing him through 2010. He has stepped up big this year and am looking forward to having him a Bronco for the next few years.