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WARHORSE
05-20-2009, 11:51 AM
(born July 16, 1987 in Belford (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belford,_New_Jersey), New Jersey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey)) is an American football (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_football)running back (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Running_back) for the Denver Broncos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denver_Broncos) of the National Football League (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League). He was selected 12th overall in the 2009 NFL Draft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_NFL_Draft) by the Broncos. He played college football (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_football) at the University of Georgia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Bulldogs_football). Knowshon's first name is a combination of his father's nickname Knowledge and his mothers name Varashon.


High school years
Moreno grew up in Belford, New Jersey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belford,_New_Jersey). At Middletown High School South (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middletown_High_School_South) he led his team to three Central Jersey Group III championships. He rushed for 1,629 yards on 153 carries and scored 28 TDs in 11 games as a senior.

He finished his high school career with 6,268 career rushing yards, 128 touchdowns, and 728 points. His rushing yards are second all-time in New Jersey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey) high school ranks, while he is New Jersey's all-time leading scorer.

He also rushed for 420 yards and 7 Touchdowns in one game against the Neptune Scarlet Fliers. He also rushed for 8 touchdowns in one game against the Holmdel Hornets.

He was the #10 running back and #73 prospect according to Rivals.com, #9 running back according to Scout.com, and was a PrepStar 200 selection. He was also an EA Sports (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EA_Sports) All-American while being recruited by Georgia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Georgia), Maryland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Maryland,_College_Park), Michigan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Michigan), Virginia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Virginia), Virginia Tech (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech), and Florida (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Florida). Moreno eventually signed his letter of intent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_of_intent) to Georgia.

Collegiate career


Freshman season

Moreno redshirted in 2006, but returned in 2007 as a redshirt freshman. After a great spring, Moreno shared time with Thomas Brown (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Brown_(American_football)) as the starting running back in the season opener against Oklahoma State (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_State_football). Moreno totaled 70 yards on 20 carries with two receptions for 51 yards in the 35-14 win.

In the following game against South Carolina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Carolina_Gamecocks_football), Moreno saw most of the rushing duties with 14 carries for 104 yards in the 12-16 loss. In the third game of the season against Western Carolina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Carolina_Catamounts_football), Moreno scored his first career college touchdown in the 45-16 win. His totals on the day were 94 yards on 13 rushes with one touchdown.

Entering the Bulldogs' game against Vanderbilt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanderbilt_Commodores_football), it was announced that Georgia's starting tailback Thomas Brown would be sidelined with a broken collarbone. Moreno was elevated to starting tailback in Brown's place and responded with 157 yards gained on the ground in a tight 20-17 Bulldog win.

In the following week, he continued his impressive season with 188 yards rushing and three touchdowns on 33 carries as Georgia defeated itsrival (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World%27s_Largest_Outdoor_Cocktail_Party), Florida (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Gators_football). Against Troy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_Trojans_football) the next game, Moreno rushed for 196 yards, joining Herschel Walker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herschel_Walker) as the only player in Georgia history to rush for 1,000 yards in his freshman season.

Moreno rushed for over 100 yards for the fifth straight game in leading the Georgia Bulldogs to a 24-13 victory over Kentucky (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kentucky_Wildcats_football) while totaling 124 yards and a touchdown on 22 carries.

Moreno is the first Georgia tailback since Herschel Walker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herschel_Walker) in 1982 to rush for over 100 yards in five straight games.

Through the first ten weeks of the 2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Georgia_Bulldogs_football_team) season, Moreno was named the SEC Freshman of the Week three times and SEC Offensive Player of the Week once. He was also named onto the all-SEC first team and was the unanimous SEC Freshman of the Year.

Moreno finished the season with 1,334 yards on 248 carries for 14 touchdowns. He also added 253 receiving yards on 20 receptions.

Sophomore season

Knowshon Moreno began his sophomore campaign as a Heisman Trophy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heisman_Trophy) favorite. He opened the season with 59 yards on 8 carries for 3 touchdowns and 53 yards on two receptions for a total of 112 yards and 3 touchdowns in the 45-21 win over Georgia Southern (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Southern). In the following 56-17 win over Central Michigan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Michigan_University), Moreno rushed 18 times for 168 yards and 3 touchdowns.

He also had 3 receptions for 30 yards, totaling 198 yards of total offense in the win. The game also provided Moreno with his highlight reel's iconic moment: a hurdle over an upright CMU defender.

In the SEC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeastern_Conference) opener for the Bulldogs against South Carolina, Moreno had 20 carries for 79 yards and a touchdown in the 14-7 win. Next, Moreno and the Bulldogs traveled to Arizona (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona) to defeat Arizona State (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_State_Sun_Devils_football) 27-10, led by his 149 yards and two touchdowns on 23 carries.

However, the Bulldogs undefeated record was broken in a 41-30 loss to Alabama (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alabama_Crimson_Tide_football). In the loss, Moreno was held to 34 yards and a score on 9 carries. It marked the first time on the season that he was held under 50 yards rushing and 50 yards of total offense.

However, Moreno bounced back in the 26-14 win overTennessee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_Volunteers_football) with 101 yards on 27 carries. However, Moreno was held out of the endzone for the first time on the season.

Georgia then defeated Vanderbilt 24-14 to improve their record to 6-1, with Moreno rushing 23 times for a season-high 172 yards and a touchdown. Moreno added onto his season totals in the 52-38 victory against LSU (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LSU_Tigers_football) with 163 yards and a touchdown on 21 carries. Moreno's totals in the two-week effort was 335 yards and two touchdowns on only 44 carries.

However, Georgia was handed their second conference loss in a 49-10 bout against Florida, in which Moreno was held to 65 yards on 17 carries.

He finished the 2008 season with 1,792 yards of total offense (1,400 rushing on 250 carries and 392 yards on 33 receptions) and scored 18 touchdowns (16 rushing, 2 receiving). He was named the team's offensive MVP. On January 7, 2009, Moreno announced that he would enter the 2009 NFL Draft.


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How good can Knowshon Moreno be? I think considering his age, his accomplishments to date, his work ethic and attitude, he can be a very good player.

Can he be Herschel Walker good? Yeah, I think so. Can he be TD good? Yeah, I think so as well. Will he be? A lot goes into that equation including the fact that the day of the 1700 yard rusher may be done.

Teams are moving towards the two back tandem more and more in order to prolong the careers of their stud runningbacks. Running a player for 400 carries is putting them on the shelf.

The team situation that a runningback, or any player for that matter, goes into determines a lot as far as how productive a player can be.

The players around him are highly influencing as well, both in play and attitude, character.

I think Knowshon is walking into a situation flush with support in assisting him to have a really good early career.

With early success, teams are going to load up on him, and Kyle will need to prove he can do enough to keep 8 out of the box. I think its not only Kyle, but the WRs and TEs as well. I think we will have that. We have playmakers.

If we keep eight out of the box with our passing game, look for Knowshon to do really, really well. He has the total package: Vision, strength, agility, speed, hands, blocking, intelligence, endurance and the will to be good.

Hes fresh, hasnt taken big hits in his career, and hasnt hit his prime. He will get bigger and stronger, yet faster as well as more polished.

Shine this stone slowly and steadily and I think you may soon see children being named after him.

Not to mention on our BEERfdays, we will clank our tankards together in salute whenever someone mentions his name.


Hes not Steven Jackson. Hes not Clinton Portis. Hes not Adrian Peterson.

But honestly, I think hes a lot like TD. Not quite as powerful, and he has some weight yet to put on, but a little more elusive. Maybe wont be quite the blocker, but a better pass catcher.

In other words, he does everything well.

BroncoSojia
05-20-2009, 11:54 AM
born July 16, 1987 in Belford, New Jersey


Nice, we share the same birthdate :cool:

WARHORSE
05-20-2009, 11:57 AM
Im not putting him in the HOF.

Im talking about potential...........potential...........we talkin about potential?


We talkin bout potential man.

WARHORSE
05-20-2009, 11:57 AM
Nice, we share the same birthdate :cool:


Thats BEERfdate.

Dirk
05-20-2009, 12:03 PM
Good article. Thanks War!

Drill-N-Fill
05-20-2009, 12:42 PM
I've wanted "The wow factor" since '08 draft. I was hoping we would have traded up to get him at that time. Who knew he would have ended up here. :beer:

Requiem / The Dagda
05-20-2009, 12:45 PM
Insane potential, that is why I wanted him. He's coming into the NFL at a cool 21 years old, a fresh 22 when he'll be starting his career. Besides the Super Bowls, I think he might have some of us saying, "Davis who?" -- if he can keep healthy. We finally have someone who can do what Portis was doing here before we traded him off.

honz
05-20-2009, 12:58 PM
Insane potential, that is why I wanted him. He's coming into the NFL at a cool 21 years old, a fresh 22 when he'll be starting his career. Besides the Super Bowls, I think he might have some of us saying, "Davis who?" -- if he can keep healthy. We finally have someone who can do what Portis was doing here before we traded him off.
Terrel Davis sucked anyways...bad comparison. :coffee:

Requiem / The Dagda
05-20-2009, 01:03 PM
I know man. He was a loser.

underrated29
05-20-2009, 01:17 PM
screw portis. Moreno will leap frog him this year. Moreno has way more ability and potential than portis.

I cant wait to go to TC and see him in real life with my own eyes. Then i will be able to see just how far this kid can go. From the looks of it, he can make it all the way to the top.

EMB6903
05-20-2009, 03:33 PM
screw portis. Moreno will leap frog him this year. Moreno has way more ability and potential than portis.

I cant wait to go to TC and see him in real life with my own eyes. Then i will be able to see just how far this kid can go. From the looks of it, he can make it all the way to the top.

I like Knowshon a lot, I think he will be a 1300+ yard rusher for years to come. but lets be real, currently Portis is better at just about every aspect aside from catching the ball.

Magnificent Seven
05-20-2009, 03:45 PM
Denver and Kansas City headlines

Denver

Knowshon Moreno is already a winner.

My take: Moreno just won a rookie touchdown celebration contest. I get the feeling he will get the chance to display the celebration often. The Broncos are going to center their offense around the rookie tailback. Moreno, the No. 12 overall draft pick, will be a three-down player for Denver. He could be a legitimate rookie of the year candidate.

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcwest/0-3-2211/Denver-and-Kansas-City-headlines.html

Nomad
05-20-2009, 03:46 PM
I'll be happy if he overcome the notorious 'injury bug' that hit our RBs hard last year.

Please don't crown the guy yet as the second coming until he proves himself.

underrated29
05-20-2009, 04:01 PM
I'll be happy if he overcome the notorious 'injury bug' that hit our RBs hard last year.

Please don't crown the guy yet as the second coming until he proves himself.


Dude i already have a shrine of the guy.

If next year he isnt over the 2k all purpose yardage marker i will be disappointed.

honz
05-20-2009, 04:32 PM
I like Knowshon a lot, I think he will be a 1300+ yard rusher for years to come. but lets be real, currently Portis is better at just about every aspect aside from catching the ball.

I agree with neither of you. We haven't even seen him in preseason action, so how are we supposed to compare him to Portis? Wait and see, and stay thirsty my friends.

Nomad
05-20-2009, 04:35 PM
Dude i already have a shrine of the guy.

If next year he isnt over the 2k all purpose yardage marker i will be disappointed.

I'm also talking about character. TD was the whole package and before I crown Moreno sitting at TD's right hand, he'll have to put up yards and be a team player.

WARHORSE
05-20-2009, 07:13 PM
As I stated, Im not trying to put the guy in the category of the greats.

All Im pointing out is that Knowshon comes into a great situation with a ton of ability. He can really kick some dirt around this year for us.

His style of running is like TD and Payton together imo. As for speed, he has more than enough speed to take it to the house.

Never saw anyone catch him from behind in college. Its about pad speed.

Hes plenty fast enough.

From what Ive seen, and this is my opinion, I believe hes gonna light it up.

Requiem / The Dagda
05-20-2009, 07:27 PM
Lets hope that the only thing he lights up is the field. . .

topscribe
05-20-2009, 07:59 PM
K-Mo! http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh256/AZDynamics/Smilies/thdrink.gif



:D



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Bad Intentions
05-22-2009, 07:14 AM
screw portis. Moreno will leap frog him this year. Moreno has way more ability and potential than portis.

I cant wait to go to TC and see him in real life with my own eyes. Then i will be able to see just how far this kid can go. From the looks of it, he can make it all the way to the top.


I don't know that Moreno has more ability than Portis and therefore not the same potential as an athlete. Portis is a 220lb RB that still runs as fast as any RB in the NFL. He is shifty, can catch the ball, and is easily the best blocking back that isn't a FB in the league. He protects his QB on 3rd downs. So much so it probably prevents him from having 15-20 more receptions a year. Moreno can do a lot of what Portis does... but he'll never have that speed. What I like about Moreno though is he is a natural leader. His attitude is on another level compared to Portis'. I won't question Portis' work ethic, but I will comment that Moreno's is exceptional.

What I like about Moreno is the fact that he knows his own limitations. He knows he can't run blazing fast like a Chris Johnson so he makes up for it in a variety of ways. Spin moves, jukes, stiff arms, outstanding vision, stutter-steps, he's developed a lot of 'game' to overcome that lack of speed. To me, that says that he understands exactly what his limitations are and makes up for them by focusing on what he can do. As John Wooden used to say, "don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do." Something tells me that Knowshon is smart enough to work on all aspects of his game, and he'll be just fine. Comparing him to Adrian Peterson, Clinton Portis and Terrell Davis though... I'm not going there yet.

Bad Intentions
05-22-2009, 07:21 AM
As I stated, Im not trying to put the guy in the category of the greats.

All Im pointing out is that Knowshon comes into a great situation with a ton of ability. He can really kick some dirt around this year for us.

His style of running is like TD and Payton together imo. As for speed, he has more than enough speed to take it to the house.

Never saw anyone catch him from behind in college. Its about pad speed.

Hes plenty fast enough.

From what Ive seen, and this is my opinion, I believe hes gonna light it up.


He was caught from behind and from properly taken angles a lot. Go to the LSU game and watch him barely out run Darry Beckwith (sp?) on the long TD run up the middle. He did not separate at all. Beckwith ran a 4.8 (4.79) at the combine. That's fine though, as I said earlier, he understands his physical limitations. That is why he's developed so well in so many different areas. He may not give us the 60 yard breakaway run. But I think he'll finish runs of 4-5 yards on a consistent basis. I think he'll have the occasional 20 yard run due to a nice juke move, spin move, or stiff arm. And I think he'll be a leader on this team very early on. His passion and attitude are contagious. But lets not fool ourselves here. If his speed wasn't an issue the kid wouldn't have lasted to #12. Most early comps are between he and Cadillac Williams. The biggest difference, Caddy ran in the 4.4 range and was drafted at #5.

4.6 won't stop him from being a great RB but you're kidding yourself if you think it is not a limitation.

WARHORSE
05-22-2009, 12:40 PM
He was caught from behind and from properly taken angles a lot. Go to the LSU game and watch him barely out run Darry Beckwith (sp?) on the long TD run up the middle. He did not separate at all. Beckwith ran a 4.8 (4.79) at the combine. That's fine though, as I said earlier, he understands his physical limitations. That is why he's developed so well in so many different areas. He may not give us the 60 yard breakaway run. But I think he'll finish runs of 4-5 yards on a consistent basis. I think he'll have the occasional 20 yard run due to a nice juke move, spin move, or stiff arm. And I think he'll be a leader on this team very early on. His passion and attitude are contagious. But lets not fool ourselves here. If his speed wasn't an issue the kid wouldn't have lasted to #12. Most early comps are between he and Cadillac Williams. The biggest difference, Caddy ran in the 4.4 range and was drafted at #5.

4.6 won't stop him from being a great RB but you're kidding yourself if you think it is not a limitation.


What limitation is that?
Didnt seem to be a limitation for Terrell Davis. 2000 plus yards in a season.

Jerry Rice ran the same time as Knowshon. What limitation did he have?

Im not saying the guy is a blazer. Im saying he can still hit the home run. He has more than enough speed to run in pads and take it to the house.

Barring someone exceptionally fast player in pads, on long runs, his speed is more than adequate.

On a run of 90 yards or more, he gets behind everyone, there will be more of a chance he gets caught. But how many of those you gonna see?

60 yards in, hes money.

If youre five yards behind me and you run a 4.4, and I run a 4.6 and we're full gallop, how many yards will it take for you to catch me? 60?
Im in the endzone.

Now, what if I carry the weight of the pads better than you?

The most productive RB of all time, Emmitt Smith, ran a 4.8 40.

It may be that we have different opinions of limitations for a RB.

Knowshon has more than enough talent to be a very stud RB. And Im not talkin about consistent 5 yard runs like Edge. He has more than enough speed to break off long runs consistently.

Thats all Im sayin.:beer:

CoachChaz
05-22-2009, 12:50 PM
Moreno has one intengible that Portis lacks. No matter the situation, he's not going to go down easy. His feet will keep moving until the whistle blows and probably afterward as well. The guy just doesnt quit.

G_Money
05-22-2009, 01:08 PM
The fact that Cadillac Williams has been constantly injured with decreasing performance since his rookie year might be another reason (along with plenty of options in later rounds, guys like Benson bombing out, etc) to avoid drafting a top-5, top-10 RB. RB is the most easily replaceable position, as a number of serviceable backs come out every year and the life expectancy of a RB in the NFL is the shortest of any position.

Still, when you get a shot at Thurman Thomas/Emmitt Smith and your running backs are a collection of misfits, it doesn't hurt to take that shot. Thomas had a fast 40 time, IIRC - Smith did not.

But on the field, both guys just PRODUCED. I like Knowshon's chances to produce.

~G

Requiem / The Dagda
05-22-2009, 01:12 PM
Thurman Thomas is my favorite RB ever. if Knowshon could be anywhere near Thomas, that'd be awesome.

BroncoNut
05-22-2009, 01:28 PM
Moreno has a lot of upside in my opinion.

Requiem / The Dagda
05-22-2009, 01:29 PM
Thank you Captain Obvious.

underrated29
05-22-2009, 02:03 PM
Moreno has one intengible that Portis lacks. No matter the situation, he's not going to go down easy. His feet will keep moving until the whistle blows and probably afterward as well. The guy just doesnt quit.



Better make that 2.

Vision. Moreno has vision unparalleled by any. That alone separates himself from anyone.

Barry sanders had elite vision, peyton manning has elite vision, id say brandon marshall has good vision, but moreno is an elite.

And that in a ZBS is the ultimate weapon, who cares how fast or slow he is going to be able to run, when he can run through the wholes that arent there yet. He wont have to worry about speed as the defenders will be blocked.

When troy palamaulu comes flying in like a heat seaking missile this year, watch as moreno rights right around him. Not because he juked him our of his feet. (which he could do) but because the man can see everything.

WARHORSE
05-22-2009, 02:20 PM
Better make that 2.

Vision. Moreno has vision unparalleled by any. That alone separates himself from anyone.

Barry sanders had elite vision, peyton manning has elite vision, id say brandon marshall has good vision, but moreno is an elite.

And that in a ZBS is the ultimate weapon, who cares how fast or slow he is going to be able to run, when he can run through the wholes that arent there yet. He wont have to worry about speed as the defenders will be blocked.

When troy palamaulu comes flying in like a heat seaking missile this year, watch as moreno rights right around him. Not because he juked him our of his feet. (which he could do) but because the man can see everything.


I agree with that from what Ive seen. Vision, setting up blocks, knowing where defenses are going to be.............all those components are huge in relating to production on the field. Take a look at Tatum Bell. He is a classic example of a back with all the talent but no running vision.


Runners with vision also dont get crushed, leading to prolonged careers.

Lonestar
05-22-2009, 02:41 PM
The fact that Cadillac Williams has been constantly injured with decreasing performance since his rookie year might be another reason (along with plenty of options in later rounds, guys like Benson bombing out, etc) to avoid drafting a top-5, top-10 RB. RB is the most easily replaceable position, as a number of serviceable backs come out every year and the life expectancy of a RB in the NFL is the shortest of any position.

Still, when you get a shot at Thurman Thomas/Emmitt Smith and your running backs are a collection of misfits, it doesn't hurt to take that shot. Thomas had a fast 40 time, IIRC - Smith did not.

But on the field, both guys just PRODUCED. I like Knowshon's chances to produce.

~G


You also have to factor in the Smith also had one of the biggest baddest OLINE in the history of the NFL for much of his career.. not allowing him to be touched for many yards down field.. he got an additional 4-6 years playing because of that..

as for speed like him and TD if you have 5-10 yards head start most of the time your not going to be caught.. Great Olines can give you that extra edge..

topscribe
05-22-2009, 02:47 PM
He was caught from behind and from properly taken angles a lot. Go to the LSU game and watch him barely out run Darry Beckwith (sp?) on the long TD run up the middle. He did not separate at all. Beckwith ran a 4.8 (4.79) at the combine. That's fine though, as I said earlier, he understands his physical limitations. That is why he's developed so well in so many different areas. He may not give us the 60 yard breakaway run. But I think he'll finish runs of 4-5 yards on a consistent basis. I think he'll have the occasional 20 yard run due to a nice juke move, spin move, or stiff arm. And I think he'll be a leader on this team very early on. His passion and attitude are contagious. But lets not fool ourselves here. If his speed wasn't an issue the kid wouldn't have lasted to #12. Most early comps are between he and Cadillac Williams. The biggest difference, Caddy ran in the 4.4 range and was drafted at #5.

4.6 won't stop him from being a great RB but you're kidding yourself if you think it is not a limitation.

I don't know what team and player you were watching. But Terrell Davis, who
is a Georgia alum and knows RBs, if anybody does, stated that he has not yet
seen Moreno run down from behind.

Maybe the Broncos' FO will give you TD's number if you ask, then you can
argue that with him . . . :cheers:

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T.K.O.
05-22-2009, 03:01 PM
cool story about knowshon....

When he was in eighth grade in Bayshore, N.J., Moreno was standing on a playground tossing a football to himself when he issued a challenge to 30 of his classmates: Try to tackle to me. The playground was only the size of two tennis courts, and a heartbeat later 30 kids were chasing Moreno as if he'd just stolen their lunch money. He dodged. He juked. He ran around poles. For 45 seconds, no one could touch little Moreno. "He made every kid miss," said Al Bigos, a teacher at Bayshore. "Nobody came close to getting him. It was like two-hand touch, and nobody got a hand on him."

"That was just all instinct," Moreno said. "That's my whole game: just doing what comes naturally. Like when I jump over guys; it's not something I plan to do, it just happens, almost like I'm not even controlling my body."

WARHORSE
05-22-2009, 03:04 PM
You also have to factor in the Smith also had one of the biggest baddest OLINE in the history of the NFL for much of his career.. not allowing him to be touched for many yards down field.. he got an additional 4-6 years playing because of that..

as for speed like him and TD if you have 5-10 yards head start most of the time your not going to be caught.. Great Olines can give you that extra edge..


Definitely. The olines dont get the credit they should.

That goes for TD too.

T.K.O.
05-22-2009, 03:05 PM
I don't know what team and player you were watching. But Terrell Davis, who
is a Georgia alum and knows RBs, if anybody does, stated about Moreno that
he has not yet seen Moreno run down from behind.

Maybe the Broncos' FO will give you TD's number if you ask, then you can
argue that with him . . . :coffee:

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he runs a 4.4 40 not the fastest guy in the league ,but i was watching film of him and man he can flat book when he gets open.besides anybody quick and light enough to catch him at full stride will probably get run over if they do....not a good way to get to know knowshon!!!!lol:salute:

topscribe
05-22-2009, 03:09 PM
he runs a 4.4 40 not the fastest guy in the league ,but i was watching film of him and man he can flat book when he gets open.besides anybody quick and light enough to catch him at full stride will probably get run over if they do....not a good way to get to know knowshon!!!!lol:salute:

I thought it was around a 4.6. But if Moreno runs a 4.4, then no one is going
to catch him from behind. If a RB gets a ½ second jump, not even a 4.3 guy
is going to catch a 4.4 or even a 4.5 guy.

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T.K.O.
05-22-2009, 03:18 PM
I thought it was around a 4.6. But if Moreno runs a 4.4, then no one is going
to catch him from behind. If a RB gets a ½ second jump, not even a 4.3 guy
is going to catch a 4.4 or even a 4.5 guy.

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at the combine he ran a 4.62 which is pretty bad but i read at a workout in georgia he had a 4.49 but i vant find it when i do i'll post it.
anyway the way he makes people miss he can still take it to the house.
i cant wait to see what he can do with our o-line
his bulldag line was made up of sophmores and he got 1400 yds in 12 games.
i,m thinkin 1600....wooohoo:elefant:

Nomad
05-22-2009, 03:21 PM
I don't care what he ran at a combine, I have witnessed what he can do to SEC defenses (which is as close to pro as you can get). The man is well ahead of the game and I hope when he finds success in the NFL he remains humble and not a Clinton Portis.

Requiem / The Dagda
05-22-2009, 03:45 PM
Yeah, it doesn't matter what he runs -- but he has been caught from behind multiple times. Stating otherwise is false.

BroncoNut
05-22-2009, 04:10 PM
the dude can flat out tear up run defenses and that is all that matters to me.

topscribe
05-22-2009, 04:15 PM
at the combine he ran a 4.62 which is pretty bad but i read at a workout in georgia he had a 4.49 but i vant find it when i do i'll post it.
anyway the way he makes people miss he can still take it to the house.
i cant wait to see what he can do with our o-line
his bulldag line was made up of sophmores and he got 1400 yds in 12 games.
i,m thinkin 1600....wooohoo:elefant:

I remember something to that effect, too, that he ran a 4.49. I would like to
see whether he actually did.

But what he does in shorts on a track is not a concern. It's his playing speed,
and it looks to me as if he has plenty of it.

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T.K.O.
05-22-2009, 04:21 PM
I remember something to that effect, too, that he ran a 4.49. I would like to
see whether he actually did.

But what he does in shorts on a track is not a concern. It's his playing speed,
and it looks to me as if he has plenty of it.

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9. Knowshon Moreno**
School: Georgia
Position:
RB
Year: Sophomore (RS)
Hometown: Belford, NJ
Date of Birth: 7.16.87
Height: 5110
Weight: 210
40 T: 4.49
Projection: 1st Round

T.K.O.
05-22-2009, 04:24 PM
the stats above are from the "draft bible 2009"
heres more info i found interesting apparently he was'nt at his best at the combine.

"3.20.09 - RB Knowshon Moreno probably had to be a little disappointed as he was only able to run in the low 4.6 range for the 40. Moreno, though, reportedly looked much quicker an instinctive than that time would indicate and also caught the ball well. Moreno’s agents finalized plans for a private workout with the Chargers on March 30.

Apparently Moreno was sick in the days leading up to his Pro Day, but this time isn't going to raise his draft stock and that's good for the teams drafting at the end of the first round. Arizona at 31 seems like a good fit, and none of the teams around that slot needs a running back as badly as the Cards. I'd be surprised if he went much earlier. - All Access Daily Dose: Pro Day Impact & Analysis

2.16.09 - The comparison that is tossed around most when talking about Moreno is Clinton Portis, and it is an accurate one. Like Portis, Knowshon has outstanding vision and the quickness to get to and through the hole in a hurry. He does a good job of setting up defenders on the second level and is very elusive in the open field. I love the fact that Moreno is “hyper-competitve” and wants the ball in his hands during crunch time. He doesn’t have ideal bulk for an every down RB, but Moreno is a gamebreaker and doesn’t require a ton of carries to make big plays. - Draft Guys Report On Knowshon Moreno