Scheff for a 3rd [Archive]

Foochacho

04-25-2009, 10:36 PM

Would you do it? I have a feeling he gets shipped out tomorrow for a third. If this happens it will make me feel better about the Quinn situation. A 3rd for an often injured tight end that probally won't stick around after next year isn't a bad deal.

I say let's do it, how bout you?

xzn

04-25-2009, 10:37 PM

Yes, I would, I hope it happens. They should have done it first and then taken the blocking TE.

Bill Devaroe

04-25-2009, 10:37 PM

all day

BroncoJoe

04-25-2009, 10:38 PM

Yes, I would, I hope it happens. They should have done it first and then taken the blocking TE.

How do you know that's not the case?

dogfish

04-25-2009, 10:38 PM

why trade him for a 3rd when we can almost certainly get a 5th?

one thing doogie clearly didn't learn from bill bellyache is how to get value out of trades and not burn draft picks. . .

SmilinAssasSin27

04-25-2009, 10:39 PM

yup yup

Simple Jaded

04-25-2009, 10:41 PM

Why trade Scheffler for a 3rd rounder when you've got that other No1 pick burning a hole in your pocket?.......

honz

04-25-2009, 10:42 PM

Since we already picked another TE, yes.

shank

04-25-2009, 10:43 PM

i really like tony, but.. do it.

Lonestar

04-25-2009, 10:44 PM

why trade him for a 3rd when we can almost certainly get a 5th?

one thing doogie clearly didn't learn from bill bellyache is how to get value out of trades and not burn draft picks. . .

Well he could have had a number one for Cassell but settled for a #3 IIRC..

ikillz0mbies

04-25-2009, 10:45 PM

Absolutely. Get that 3rd to draft Jarron Gilbert!

hotcarl

04-25-2009, 10:45 PM

At lleast we will have the #1 overall next year

xzn

04-25-2009, 10:48 PM

How do you know that's not the case?

Well, if they have a deal in place why hasn't it been announced?

dogfish

04-25-2009, 10:51 PM

At lleast we will have the #1 overall next year

i'm sure seattle will really appreciate it. . . . :lol:

seriously, has there been a definitive answer yet as to which 1st we gave up for smith?

honz

04-25-2009, 10:53 PM

i'm sure seattle will really appreciate it. . . . :lol:

seriously, has there been a definitive answer yet as to which 1st we gave up for smith?

It's the least we could do after they gave us a 5th for Keary Colbert.

Ravage!!!

04-25-2009, 10:58 PM

At lleast we will have the #1 overall next year

nope... we traded that away for some db in the second round.

Ravage!!!

04-25-2009, 10:59 PM

i'm sure seattle will really appreciate it. . . . :lol:

seriously, has there been a definitive answer yet as to which 1st we gave up for smith?

all the reports I'm reading says that we gave our natural 1st round pick

bcbronc

04-25-2009, 11:00 PM

i'm sure seattle will really appreciate it. . . . :lol:

seriously, has there been a definitive answer yet as to which 1st we gave up for smith?

in the presser it sounded like McDaniels said whichever is later. but there was some doublespeak so I'm not 100% certain.

dogfish

04-25-2009, 11:04 PM

all the reports I'm reading says that we gave our natural 1st round pick

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Ravage!!!

04-25-2009, 11:14 PM

I know I read it.. and a couple have posted where they read it, but now I can't seem to find where I read it. I was going to post a link....

shank

04-25-2009, 11:16 PM

ok, so say we do this:

where does tony scheffler end up? philly was tied to that rumor earlier; any other potential landing spots?

SmilinAssasSin27

04-25-2009, 11:17 PM

I still think Philly is the fit.

shank

04-25-2009, 11:20 PM

I still think Philly is the fit.

ok, then say we get pick 85 for scheffler, who are your top targets smilin?

i'm thinking dorell scott... jasper brinkley... meh, that's all i've got.

SmilinAssasSin27

04-25-2009, 11:26 PM

ok, then say we get pick 85 for scheffler, who are your top targets smilin?

i'm thinking dorell scott... jasper brinkley... meh, that's all i've got.

Love both of them plus...

Louis Murphy, WR, Florida
Kyle Moore, DE, USC
Michael Johnson, DE/OLB, Georgia Tech
Jarron Gilbert, DE, San Jose State
Lawrence Sidbury, DE, Richmond

shank

04-25-2009, 11:33 PM

Love both of them plus...

Louis Murphy, WR, Florida
Kyle Moore, DE, USC
Michael Johnson, DE/OLB, Georgia Tech
Jarron Gilbert, DE, San Jose State
Lawrence Sidbury, DE, Richmond

def like gilbert and sidbury as well. don't think gilbert has any chance of getting to 85, i thought he'd go in the 2nd.

dogfish

04-25-2009, 11:38 PM

def like gilbert and sidbury as well. don't think gilbert has any chance of getting to 85, i thought he'd go in the 2nd.

every scouting report i've seen says he's soft and not very competitive. . . .

in any case, i think you guys are drunk if you think we're getting a 3rd for chef after today's taste of mcxanders' "bargaining skills". . . . :D

Northman

04-25-2009, 11:42 PM

Why trade Sheff for a 3rd when we can give Sheff and the rest of our draft for a 5th? Remember, VALUE.

slim

04-25-2009, 11:47 PM

every scouting report i've seen says he's soft and not very competitive. . . .

in any case, i think you guys are drunk if you think we're getting a 3rd for chef after today's taste of mcxanders' "bargaining skills". . . . :D

Dog, I am scared.

dogfish

04-26-2009, 04:19 AM

Dog, I am scared.

i know. . . . i'd offer to hold you, but i'm scared too. . . .

dogfish

04-26-2009, 04:31 AM

oh, and as for getting a 3rd for chef. . . probably not happening when shawn nelson, chase coffman, jared cook, cornelius ingram and travis beckham are ALL available in the 3rd and will have to play for peanuts for the next 4-5 years. . . . yes, chef is a proven NFL producer and they're not-- he's also proven to be fragile, and will need a veteran contract next year. . . . for what we're likely to get in this market, i'd rather keep him, although doogie supposedly can't figure out what to do with a guys that's 6'5" with great body control and soft hands. . . .

TXBRONC

04-26-2009, 06:03 AM

Well he could have had a number one for Cassell but settled for a #3 IIRC..

Then you recall incorrectly, because the Patriots got a 2nd round pick for Cassel. :coffee:

broncofaninfla

04-26-2009, 10:26 AM

Lets trade schef for a third and draft runningbacks for the remainder of the draft

weazel

04-26-2009, 11:07 AM

so who is oging to catch the ball coming off the line? Graham doesn't, and the new guy doesn't.

oh yeah, we got Putz back :tsk:

Hoshdude7

04-26-2009, 11:10 AM

so who is oging to catch the ball coming off the line? Graham doesn't, and the new guy doesn't.

oh yeah, we got Putz back :tsk:

Graham is actually a good receiver but wasn't utilized in that area

dogfish

04-26-2009, 11:13 AM

underrated29

04-26-2009, 11:14 AM

scheff will be staying here. He is not going anywhere.

Joel

04-26-2009, 11:18 AM

At lleast we will have the #1 overall next year
The Bears aren't that bad, and Seattle has the really nice 1st round pick our next season is likely to garner.

And Graham does has nice hands, it's just that, as noted, he was seen as more valuable as a blocker; one reason he was upbeat about coming here was because he expected to catch more balls than he did in NE. Guess he didn't figure on McDaniels following him like Richard Kimble after the One-Armed Man. ;)

Hobe

04-26-2009, 11:28 AM

Unfortunately, I hope we do trade him. Otherwise, we'll get nothing when he is released. Like his mentors, McD seems to consider the Tight end a blocker, not an offensive weapon.

broncohead

04-26-2009, 11:31 AM

The Bears aren't that bad, and Seattle has the really nice 1st round pick our next season is likely to garner.

And Graham does has nice hands, it's just that, as noted, he was seen as more valuable as a blocker; one reason he was upbeat about coming here was because he expected to catch more balls than he did in NE. Guess he didn't figure on McDaniels following him like Richard Kimble after the One-Armed Man. ;)

He has average hands for a TE but is to slow to get open against man-to-man