I'm not worried at all.

[OaklandRaider]

Let me start by saying that Peyton Manning is 1 Million times the QB that Tim Tebow will ever hope to be. You guys definately upgraded the most important position in all of sports, and for that I say kudos.

But with that said, I am still pretty confident that Denver will still be finishing last place in the AFC West next year. The Chiefs will be better, the Chargers will be better, and of course the Raiders will be better next year. Peyton Manning is a great player, but given his age and his injury history, he alone can't carry a talentless team like the Broncos to the playoffs. The Broncos are by far the least talented team in the AFC West IMO.

You have no established receivers. You have a 30 year old RB who was only good last year BECAUSE of Tim Tebow. You have a vastly overrated offensive line. A solid defense at best that got exposed against teams with good QBs. I'm not trying to hate at all, those are just the facts. I'm sure some non biased Bronco fans out there will agree with me.

Given all those facts, I'm not really sure what PM was thinking signing with you guys. If Peyton Manning was serious about winning the Superbowl, he would've signed with the 9ers. To me, him signing with the Broncos just proves he is all about the money. I am dissapointed because I didn't think Peyton was that type of guy, but that's really the only reason I could think of him choosing Denver. The Broncos are so far away from winning the Superbowl it's not even funny.

So enjoy the hype. But mark my words, the Broncos are still a last place team. Remember where you heard it first.

[underrated29]

Let me start by saying that Peyton Manning is 1 Million times the QB that Tim Tebow will ever hope to be. You guys definately upgraded the most important position in all of sports, and for that I say kudos.

But with that said, I am still pretty confident that Denver will still be finishing last place in the AFC West next year. The Chiefs will be better, the Chargers will be better, and of course the Raiders will be better next year. Peyton Manning is a great player, but given his age and his injury history, he alone can't carry a talentless team like the Broncos to the playoffs. The Broncos are by far the least talented team in the AFC West IMO.

You have no established receivers. You have a 30 year old RB who was only good last year BECAUSE of Tim Tebow. You have a vastly overrated offensive line. A solid defense at best that got exposed against teams with good QBs. I'm not trying to hate at all, those are just the facts. I'm sure some non biased Bronco fans out there will agree with me.

Given all those facts, I'm not really sure what PM was thinking signing with you guys. If Peyton Manning was serious about winning the Superbowl, he would've signed with the 9ers. To me, him signing with the Broncos just proves he is all about the money. I am dissapointed because I didn't think Peyton was that type of guy, but that's really the only reason I could think of him choosing Denver. The Broncos are so far away from winning the Superbowl it's not even funny.

So enjoy the hype. But mark my words, the Broncos are still a last place team. Remember where you heard it first.



I marked them when you said that last year too. I shall do the same again this year.




Just curious, how do the raiders plan to improve...Did you not cut practically your entire team. In addition to that, you have no first round picks to try and improve and if that was not enough, which FA exactly have you signed that will improve your team?


As far as I see it, you had a talented defense, a top 3 RB, and a good QB with nothing but speed and hopes everywhere else. HOwever, you guys have cut most of your good players and now it looks more like.

palmer, rundmc, dline with potential, nothing elswhere?




PS- Stanford Routte says hi

[chazoe60]

You wouldn't have made this thread if you weren't worried.

[weazel]

same old OR... LMAO

[OaklandRaider]

I marked them when you said that last year too. I shall do the same again this year.




Just curious, how do the raiders plan to improve...Did you not cut practically your entire team. In addition to that, you have no first round picks to try and improve and if that was not enough, which FA exactly have you signed that will improve your team?


As far as I see it, you had a talented defense, a top 3 RB, and a good QB with nothing but speed and hopes everywhere else. HOwever, you guys have cut most of your good players and now it looks more like.

palmer, rundmc, dline with potential, nothing elswhere?




The only good player that we cut was Kamerion Wimbley. And he's nothing but a pass rush specialist, which can be found in the later rounds of the draft.



PS- Stanford Routte says hi

Standford Routt gave up the most touchdowns of any CB in the NFL last year. :lol: Tell him I say hi back?:confused:

[OaklandRaider]

You wouldn't have made this thread if you weren't worried.

I'm just trying to temper expectations for you Denver fans. I see you guys are talking about Superbowls already. LMAO get real.

[chazoe60]

Isn't this the second year in a row you've had a new sig with yet another HC in it? Who will be in your sig next season. Maybe Bucky Larsen Davis can take over as HC?

[underrated29]

The only good player that we cut was Kamerion Wimbley. And he's nothing but a pass rush specialist, which can be found in the later rounds of the draft.





Standford Routt gave up the most touchdowns of any CB in the NFL last year. :lol: Tell him I say hi back?:confused:




Just before last year started you blew stanfords horn harder than jenna jameson. And I was wrong, you have no firsts for the next two year and no 2,3, or 4th this year....lmao....Your team has brought in a new HC, again. And can improve by waiting for day 3 of the draft. No FA are going to sign there, and well........your back to the basement. I however, would love to take RunDMC off your hands. Hopefully---oh that reminds me. Bush, is leaving also.

While I really like what I saw of Taiwan Jones, its him and dmc- you guys are in deep shit.

[weazel]

I'm just trying to temper expectations for you Denver fans. I see you guys are talking about Superbowls already. LMAO get real.

pssst... Denver was already closer to a superbowl than the raiders and we had a quarterback who couldnt throw the ball.

LMAO at OR... its so easy.

[Medford Bronco]

Hey is OR coming out of the woodwork. He must of ran out of condoms :lol:

[SR]

Typical weak smack. I can't wait for your team to finish 6-10 in 2012

[Medford Bronco]

Typical weak smack. I can't wait for your team to finish 6-10 in 2012

and dont forget Cincy getting to enjoy their #1 pick this year.

[MasterShake]

"Oh, I'm not worried and here is a 97 page thesis on why I'm not"

I can smell the urine running down your leg from over here.

[PatriotsGuy]

I thought for sure this guy would be off banging chicks in his real life during the offseason

[slim]

I like how all of the teams in the AFCW will be magically "better", except of course for Denver.

How have SD and Oak improved in the offseason? I will give you hint, they haven't.

You can make an argument that KC has, but Denver has improved the most important position on the field (and their weakest link).

This division will come down to Denver and KC.

[TXBRONC]

Hey is OR coming out of the woodwork. He must of ran out of condoms :lol:

Does he really need condoms for an inflate-a-mate? :confused:

[weazel]

Hey is OR coming out of the woodwork. He must of ran out of condoms :lol:

and doggy treats!

[TXBRONC]

I like how all of the teams in the AFCW will be magically "better", except of course for Denver.

How have SD and Oak improved in the offseason? I will give you hint, they haven't.

You can make an argument that KC has, but Denver has improved the most important position on the field (and their weakest link).

This division will come down to Denver and KC.

OR has no sense of reality. They have practically no picks this years they hamstrung themselves for 2013 as well. They have running back who has hard time staying healthy. I'm not sure OR actually understands the game of football.

[BigDaddyBronco]

and doggy treats!

I'm thinking he is more of a roofies type of guy.

[BigDaddyBronco]

OR has no sense of reality. They have practically no picks this years they hamstrung themselves for 2013 as well. They have running back who has hard time staying healthy. I'm not sure OR actually understands the game of football.

Well he is still a Raiders fan, what more evidence do you need?

[Timmy!]

Lmao! Elite!

[slim]

Elite!

[EMB6903]

Denver now has the 2 best players in the AFC West.

Great job, John!

[BroncoNut]

So enjoy the hype. But mark my words, the Broncos are still a last place team. Remember where you heard it first.

man, you really put your balls on the block. so, if Denver wins the AFC this OP will just be forgotten as another one of OR's asinine threads. But if we finish last in the AFC, someone (you I would imagine) will resurrect this shitty thread and justify yourself as being right.

[Thnikkaman]

Peyton is not the answer. That being said OR

Nnamdi Asomugha says, "think before you create new smack threads"

http://www.africansuccess.org/docs/image/nnamdi_asomugha.jpg

[BroncoNut]

I hate you OR

[Medford Bronco]

OR has no sense of reality. They have practically no picks this years they hamstrung themselves for 2013 as well. They have running back who has hard time staying healthy. I'm not sure OR actually understands the game of football.

He must think
Marcus allen. Howie long and jim plunkett are going to come out of retirement :lol:

[Justincredible]

uhm.......where was your team last year? your specials team sucked, it was sad. sorry sugar for one your in the wrong place and two Bronco players have all there teeth and arnt felons. I hate manning so I got no beef with you there. But I don't need to hear," this I bleed black and sliver" crap this early in the year. The Raiders are one of worst teams in the NFL for sportsmanship and fans. So again why are you here.

[Softskull]

What's the difference between a Raiders fan and a puppy?

The puppy stops whining in 4 to 6 weeks.

[OaklandRaider]

"Oh, I'm not worried and here is a 97 page thesis on why I'm not"

I can smell the urine running down your leg from over here.

Peyton Manning's career stats vs the Raiders


He's 3-2, 114-for-184, 1261 yds, 12 tds, 8 int, 85.4 passer rating.

Yeah, I'm soooooo scared. :lol:

Manning is one Richard Seymour sack away from calling it a career.

[OaklandRaider]

Denver now has the 2 best players in the AFC West.

Great job, John!

Didn't know Phillip Rivers and Darren McFadden played for the Broncos....

[OaklandRaider]

Hey is OR coming out of the woodwork. He must of ran out of condoms :lol:

Yup. Those triple X magnums sure are expensive.

[OaklandRaider]

OR has no sense of reality. They have practically no picks this years they hamstrung themselves for 2013 as well. They have running back who has hard time staying healthy. I'm not sure OR actually understands the game of football.

I'd rather have a star RB who can't stay healthy, over a QB who is coming off 4 NECK SURGERIES!

If anybody is a walking injury, it's Peyton Manning.

[underrated29]

Yup. Those triple X magnums sure are expensive.

Wow. You should tell Tyrone to buy them himself if he's goona do you like that. Do you buy a zucchini and lube it up to prepare for those triple x magnums?

[Thnikkaman]

I'd rather have a star RB who can't stay healthy, over a QB who is coming off 4 NECK SURGERIES!

If anybody is a walking injury, it's Peyton Manning.

Maybe Oakland can draft a star RB that can stay healthy with their first round draft pick this year.

Oops.

[Jsteve01]

Where is tubby to poop in threads when you need him?

[Thnikkaman]

tubby is retired.

I know he would come up with something witty like

Garbage Bags are the new slang for finger cots.

[BroncoNut]

tubby is retarded.

I know he would come up with something witty like

Garbage Bags are the new slang for finger cots.

fixed

OR, as far as im concerned, and I am very concerned, you can stick it where the sun doesn't shine

[MasterShake]

Peyton Manning's career stats vs the Raiders



Yeah, I'm soooooo scared. :lol:

Manning is one Richard Seymour sack away from calling it a career.

Wow. I mean really? You could barely type "I'm so scared" without adding 5 extra "o's" to it. You hand must have been shaking pretty hard just THINKING about the hurting the Broncos will put on you TWICE a year now.

Tonight when you go to bed and your mom comes in to tuck you into your Spongebob Squarepants sheets, try not to soak them with too much urine as nightmare after nightmare of Raiders losses to a Manning led Broncos team haunt you. I'd suggest buying a water bed and blaming it on a leak.

[BroncoNut]

I'd rather have a star RB who can't stay healthy, over a QB who is coming off 4 NECK SURGERIES!

If anybody is a walking injury, it's Peyton Manning.

i'm stuck at a star running back that can't stay healthy. Is that an oxymormon?

[WTE]

I haven't started a smack talk thread here in a while.

I'm thinking about returning to my trolling ways.

[Thnikkaman]

I haven't started a smack talk thread here in a while.

I'm thinking about returning to my trolling ways.

Go for it. Just do the opposite of everything OR does.

[WTE]

Go for it. Just do the opposite of everything OR does.

That's easy to do. I don't even buy condoms.

[Thnikkaman]

That's easy to do. I don't even buy condoms.

Same here. It's such a turn on to hear OR's momma cry when I skeet in her eye.

[Northman]

This is how the division will come out in my opinion.

1. Denver
2. San Diego Chargers
3. Kansas City Chiefs
4. Oakland Raiders

So far in the offseason Denver and SD have made the best moves while KC and Oakland are floundering as usual. Oakland and KC could of been swapped but with the Faid actually have to start over YET again at HC they will struggle as usual. Keeping that Commitment to Excrement intact.

[SR]

Yup. Those triple X magnums sure are expensive.

Dudes that brag about having a big dick are always hung like a light switch. That is a scientific fact.

[Thnikkaman]

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/2008/6/12/15/0d6ea39a27a943e5a61451ed2f9717d3.jpg

[BroncoJoe]

1311

[SR]

I'd rather have a star RB who can't stay healthy, over a QB who is coming off 4 NECK SURGERIES!

If anybody is a walking injury, it's Peyton Manning.

Are you high? Are you unaware of the fact that his doctors said he's no more likely to re-injure his neck than you or I are to injuring our neck? Quit ***** footing around trying to justify you're heinous opinions and trying to rationalize the fact that your Raiders disappointed you yet again last year. All the shit you're saying about the Broncos and Raiders now is all the same shit you said at this time last year. And what happened? Jesus was on our side. That's what happened. Now we have Peyton Manning...better than ANY QB that has every played for your shit team.

[Thnikkaman]

Are you high? Are you unaware of the fact that his doctors said he's no more likely to re-injure his neck than you or I are to injuring our neck? Quit ***** footing around trying to justify you're heinous opinions and trying to rationalize the fact that your Raiders disappointed you yet again last year. All the shit you're saying about the Broncos and Raiders now is all the same shit you said at this time last year. And what happened? Jesus was on our side. That's what happened. Now we have Peyton Manning...better than ANY QB that has every played for your shit team.

He's going to claim that Rich Gannon is better. Just watch.

[SR]

He's going to claim that Rich Gannon is better. Just watch.

I'd love for that to happen. Hell, he already says Jafatass is more talented than John Elway was...and look where all that talent landed him...

[OaklandRaider]

Wow. I mean really? You could barely type "I'm so scared" without adding 5 extra "o's" to it. You hand must have been shaking pretty hard just THINKING about the hurting the Broncos will put on you TWICE a year now.

Tonight when you go to bed and your mom comes in to tuck you into your Spongebob Squarepants sheets, try not to soak them with too much urine as nightmare after nightmare of Raiders losses to a Manning led Broncos team haunt you. I'd suggest buying a water bed and blaming it on a leak.

Peyton Manning has never played great against the Raiders. That's a fact.

Last time he came to Oakland, he threw three picks. He was declining rapidly in his last year with Indy. He's no longer among the elite in the NFL.

With all the weapons that Carson Palmer has, I'd bet my next check that Palmer will outproduce Manning next year.

[OaklandRaider]

Dudes that brag about having a big dick are always hung like a light switch. That is a scientific fact.

Well I'm not gonna argue with you there. You seem like the type of person who has done a lot research in that department.

[OaklandRaider]

Are you high? Are you unaware of the fact that his doctors said he's no more likely to re-injure his neck than you or I are to injuring our neck?

I could care less what the Broncos doctors say. The Broncos were so eager to sign Manning that they probably didn't even care if he was healthy or not. That's what desperate teams do.

The Broncos are going on a FA spending spree like they are one or two pieces away from a championship. LOL, what are all the smart teams like the Packers, Ravens, Steelers, and Raiders doing? They are locking up their own guys. They are focusing on the draft. They aren't overspending for overrated scrubs like Tracy Porter, and backups like Jacob Tamme and Joel Dressen (who ) They aren't breaking the bank on a guy who may or may not be healthy. They are signing good solid FA's on cheap short term contracts so they won't handcuff themselves in the future.


That's what happened. Now we have Peyton Manning...better than ANY QB that has every played for your shit team.

You not exactly sure what type of Peyton Manning you are getting. Dude hasn't played in a year.

When Tom Brady tore his ACL, he was extremely average his next year back. It takes at least a year to recover from a serious injury.

Fact is, Dude has had 4 serious neck procedures in less than a year's time. I'm not going to trust that his neck is healed until I see him get put on his old ass and he gets back up.

And that will happening a lot this year, due to the Broncos having one of the worst pass blocking lines in football.

[Ravage!!!]

:lol: Did he just refer to the Raiders as a "smart" organization? :eek: :lol:

[Ravage!!!]

:lol: Did he just refer to the Raiders as a "smart" team? :eek: :lol:

You guys let your best QB go be the back-up to the Bears.

[weazel]

LMFAO he just lumped his team in with "smart" teams like the Packers. mental midgets make me laugh

[SR]

Peyton Manning has never played great against the Raiders. That's a fact.

Last time he came to Oakland, he threw three picks. He was declining rapidly in his last year with Indy. He's no longer among the elite in the NFL.

With all the weapons that Carson Palmer has, I'd bet my next check that Palmer will outproduce Manning next year.


Carson Palmer's weapons are about as lethal as a pellet gun. And no one is interested in your mom's next welfare check...or her food stamps.

Records against individual teams are hardly relevant in this scenario. Look at JaMarcus Russel's record against the Broncos. He kicked the shit out of Denver repeatedly. What's he doing for work now?

[SR]

Well I'm not gonna argue with you there. You seem like the type of person who has done a lot research in that department.

Nope. I'm just an average white dude with a small pecker. I know my role. Keeps the wife happy and that's all that matters.

[SR]

I could care less what the Broncos doctors say. The Broncos were so eager to sign Manning that they probably didn't even care if he was healthy or not. That's what desperate teams do.

The Broncos are going on a FA spending spree like they are one or two pieces away from a championship. LOL, what are all the smart teams like the Packers, Ravens, Steelers, and Raiders doing? They are locking up their own guys. They are focusing on the draft. They aren't overspending for overrated scrubs like Tracy Porter, and backups like Jacob Tamme and Joel Dressen (who ) They aren't breaking the bank on a guy who may or may not be healthy. They are signing good solid FA's on cheap short term contracts so they won't handcuff themselves in the future.



You not exactly sure what type of Peyton Manning you are getting. Dude hasn't played in a year.

When Tom Brady tore his ACL, he was extremely average his next year back. It takes at least a year to recover from a serious injury.

Fact is, Dude has had 4 serious neck procedures in less than a year's time. I'm not going to trust that his neck is healed until I see him get put on his old ass and he gets back up.

And that will happening a lot this year, due to the Broncos having one of the worst pass blocking lines in football.

The Broncos doctors aren't the ones that said it. The doctor that performed his surgeries said it.

And Denver's offensive line under Manning, who can actually read defenses and get the ball to his receivers in less than five seconds, is going to be dramatically different. I think people see stats from last year and say "yeah, their line is shit", but look who Denver had under center last season...Kyle Orton and Tim Tebow. Tebow couldn't read defenses. He couldn't get rid of the ball quickly. He got sacked a lot sometimes. But for several games in a row he didn't get sacked at all. So the stats are a bit misleading. Locking up Saturday would have helped a lot.

[topscribe]

Manning is one Richard Seymour sack away from calling it a career.
Wow, I mean, you have Palmer, and we have Dumervil and Miller . . . and you really did say this? :lol:

[SR]

Wow, I mean, you have Palmer, and we have Dumervil and Miller . . . and you really did say this? :lol:

It won't register.

[OaklandRaider]

LMFAO he just lumped his team in with "smart" teams like the Packers. mental midgets make me laugh

Well considering we hired the Packers top personnel man to run our franchise, then yes I'd consider the Raiders to be one of the better ran organizations in football.

[OaklandRaider]

Carson Palmer's weapons are about as lethal as a pellet gun.

Seriously? DHB had nearly 1,000 receiving yards last year. Denarius Moore was a top 4 rookie WR last year. He had more yards then Eric Decker and Demaryius Thomas. Jacoby Ford is still one of the most explosive players in the league, just needs to stay healthy. Marcel Reece is a matchup nightmare. And you already know about Darren McFadden, who was leading the league in rushing before a freak injury ended his season.

The Raiders are loaded on offense.


Records against individual teams are hardly relevant in this scenario. Look at JaMarcus Russel's record against the Broncos. He kicked the shit out of Denver repeatedly. What's he doing for work now?

Im just saying he has never ripped us like you would expect an elite QB like him to do. Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, and Drew Brees have all ripped the Raiders a new one everytime we played them. For some reason, Manning has not. Until I see him do it, I will keep bringing that up.

[Canmore]

Well considering we hired the Packers top personnel man to run our franchise, then yes I'd consider the Raiders to be one of the better ran organizations in football.

The eighties are about three decades ago, lol. Since then your organization is a model of what not to do. UNTIL that changes, you are just a sad franchise dreaming of years gone by.

[OaklandRaider]

And Denver's offensive line under Manning, who can actually read defenses and get the ball to his receivers in less than five seconds, is going to be dramatically different. I think people see stats from last year and say "yeah, their line is shit", but look who Denver had under center last season...Kyle Orton and Tim Tebow. Tebow couldn't read defenses. He couldn't get rid of the ball quickly. He got sacked a lot sometimes. But for several games in a row he didn't get sacked at all. So the stats are a bit misleading. Locking up Saturday would have helped a lot.


I agree that having Manning back there should help the offenses line, because he is one of the best at reading the defense and getting the ball out of his hands quickly.

But I've always thought Ryan Clady was seriously overrated. You look at his sack stats and the dude is not close to being elite. Everybody always brings up his rookie season where he allowed only 1 sack, but they fail to realize that year he also gave up the most QB pressures in the NFL that year. He's overrated. Orlando Franklin might as well switch to guard, because he can't pass block to save his life. Everytime we play the Broncos, Richard Seymour and Tommy Kelly always destroy your interior line as well.

Manning is going to get hit a lot this year.

[Davii]

I am still pretty confident that Denver will still be finishing last place in the AFC West next year.

That's because you're a Raider fan, which means you're an idiot. Enjoy the fact that you have a first time HC, first time GM, haven't made any free agent moves, and have no draft to speak of. Your team has upgraded, well, nothing. Great job supporting a new HC.

I feel sorry for Dennis Allen, he looked promising, but OAK will probably ruin him. Sad, OAK has turned into a coaching graveyard.

[Canmore]

That's because you're a Raider fan, which means you're an idiot. Enjoy the fact that you have a first time HC, first time GM, haven't made any free agent moves, and have no draft to speak of. Your team has upgraded, well, nothing. Great job supporting a new HC.

I feel sorry for Dennis Allen, he looked promising, but OAK will probably ruin him. Sad, OAK has turned into a coaching graveyard.

Davii...Idiot. You are being to kind.

[sanluis]

Denver won the division and a playoff game with Tebow as QB. If Payton is Payton Denver is going to be right in the playoff mix.
Sometimes the truth sucks but that's the way it goes. Maybe the cold and elevation will mess Payton up??

[SR]

Peyton Manning has an excellent record in shitty weather.

[Broncfan1970]

Awe the off season, that special time of year when idiot raider fans can actually forget how trully shitty their team is!!!!
Have fun waiting til day two of the draft this year lmao

[Davii]

Awe the off season, that special time of year when idiot raider fans can actually forget how trully shitty their team is!!!!
Have fun waiting til day two of the draft this year lmao

They have two picks this year, a 5th rounder and a 6th rounder. Poor Dennis Allen. They will probably get a compensatory pick or two for FA losses last season, but the best comp pick is the end of the third round.

It's hard to feel bad for a guy who got promoted from a position coach to a HC in the span of one season, but I truly feel sorry for Dennis Allen.

[slim]

:lol: Did he just refer to the Raiders as a "smart" organization? :eek: :lol:

He also said they "are focusing on the draft".

Since they don't have any draft picks, that is probably time well spent.

[wayninja]

Denver won the division and a playoff game with Tebow as QB. If Payton is Payton Denver is going to be right in the playoff mix.

Then we are in real trouble since his name is Peyton.

[slim]

Oh shit, DHB had AlMOST 1,000 yards....did you guys know that?

That offense will surely be unstoppable.

[SR]

I can't wait to see how much fatter Carson Palmer got during the off season.

[Canmore]

They have two picks this year, a 5th rounder and a 6th rounder. Poor Dennis Allen. They will probably get a compensatory pick or two for FA losses last season, but the best comp pick is the end of the third round.

It's hard to feel bad for a guy who got promoted from a position coach to a HC in the span of one season, but I truly feel sorry for Dennis Allen.

I do not.

[Davii]

I do not.

I do as of right now. Believe me, once the season starts that shit stops. He's the Faiders HC, once the season starts, **** him.

[weazel]

I could care less what the Broncos doctors say. The Broncos were so eager to sign Manning that they probably didn't even care if he was healthy or not. That's what desperate teams do.

The Broncos are going on a FA spending spree like they are one or two pieces away from a championship. LOL, what are all the smart teams like the Packers, Ravens, Steelers, and Raiders doing? They are locking up their own guys. They are focusing on the draft. They aren't overspending for overrated scrubs like Tracy Porter, and backups like Jacob Tamme and Joel Dressen (who ) They aren't breaking the bank on a guy who may or may not be healthy. They are signing good solid FA's on cheap short term contracts so they won't handcuff themselves in the future.



You not exactly sure what type of Peyton Manning you are getting. Dude hasn't played in a year.

When Tom Brady tore his ACL, he was extremely average his next year back. It takes at least a year to recover from a serious injury.

Fact is, Dude has had 4 serious neck procedures in less than a year's time. I'm not going to trust that his neck is healed until I see him get put on his old ass and he gets back up.

And that will happening a lot this year, due to the Broncos having one of the worst pass blocking lines in football.

http://www.jackass.com/i/greek_donkey.jpg

[Canmore]

I do as of right now. Believe me, once the season starts that shit stops. He's the Faiders HC, once the season starts, **** him.

That's more like what I was expecting to hear.

[sanluis]

Then we are in real trouble since his name is Peyton.

No .. Pay a ton.....

[wayninja]

No .. Pay a ton.....

Meh, our mercedez beats the shit out of that '85 Caprice the faiders are rolling with. We paid in cash. They paid in the future of their team.

[Davii]

Meh, our mercedez beats the shit out of that '85 Caprice the faiders are rolling with. We paid in cash. They paid in the future of their team.

They got off pretty cheap then, considering the Raiders didn't have much of a future to begin with. But yes, start little future they did have was spent on Palmer.

[ShaneFalco]

if we are so bad, and you now have dennis allen as your head coach. What does that make you?

[OaklandRaider]

if we are so bad, and you now have dennis allen as your head coach. What does that make you?

Dennis Allen is a good coach. He single-handedly turned a terrible defense, with little talent on it, into an average defense last year for the Broncos. Without Dennis Allen last year, the Broncos would be picking in the top 3.

Imagine what Dennis Allen can do with a defense that actually has talented players on it, like the Raiders do. At the very worst, we'll be a middle of the pack defense next year which will be good enough for us, because our offense is so dynamic.

[MOtorboat]

Dennis Allen is a good coach. He single-handedly turned a terrible defense, with little talent on it, into an average defense last year for the Broncos. Without Dennis Allen last year, the Broncos would be picking in the top 3.

Imagine what Dennis Allen can do with a defense that actually has talented players on it, like the Raiders do. At the very worst, we'll be a middle of the pack defense next year which will be good enough for us, because our offense is so dynamic.

LOL.

Miller and Dumervil are both better than any pass rusher Oakland has, Bailey is still better than any cornerback Oakland has, D.J. Williams is better than any other linebacker Oakland has.

Stupid...Troll.

[Canmore]

Dennis Allen is a good coach. He single-handedly turned a terrible defense, with little talent on it, into an average defense last year for the Broncos. Without Dennis Allen last year, the Broncos would be picking in the top 3.

Imagine what Dennis Allen can do with a defense that actually has talented players on it, like the Raiders do. At the very worst, we'll be a middle of the pack defense next year which will be good enough for us, because our offense is so dynamic.

Our offense is so dynamic? While you were 9th in yards you were 16th in points, hardly dynamic.

[OaklandRaider]

LOL.

Miller and Dumervil are both better than any pass rusher Oakland has, Bailey is still better than any cornerback Oakland has, D.J. Williams is better than any other linebacker Oakland has.

Stupid...Troll.

Von Miller and Elvis Dumervil are udersized pass rushers, who suck against the run. Champ Bailey is still a solid player, I'll give you that, but he's nowhere near elite. And LOL DJ Williams sucks. He can't hold Rolando McClain's jockstrap.

Richard Seymour, Tommy Kelly, Desmond Bryant, LaMar Houston, Matt Shaughnessy, Rolando McClain, Aaron Curry, Tyvon Branch, Michael Huff, Ron Bartell....the list goes on and on. The Raiders defense is way more talented than the Broncos defense. Dennis Allen is licking his chops. He will turn this unit into an elite one, whiles your defense will regress with Jack "I come into work late" Del Rio.

[OaklandRaider]

Our offense is so dynamic? While you were 9th in yards you were 16th in points, hardly dynamic.

We finished 9th in yards without the best RB in the league Darren McFadden missing the last ten games. And a QB in Carson Palmer, who came straight off the couch, didn't know the offense at all, and wasn't in football shape. We also had multiple injuries to key guys like Denarius Moore, Marcel Reece, Jacoby Ford etc...

When you consider all that, it's EXTREMELY impressive that the Raiders were able to finish top ten in yards. Now with everybody back healthy, and now that Carson Palmer has a full offseason to learn the offense and get acclimated with his receivers, the sky is the limit for this offense.

I will be shocked if we are not a top 5 offense next year.

[NightTerror218]

what are the raiders going to do when McFadden goes down again? He has yet to finish a season healthy and Bush is gone. Defense was wrecked and now they have less talent there. Offense has Palmer....um INT machine. Who is going to carry your team? You guys cant even win to make it to the playoffs when we fell flat on our faces at end of season in a huge skid. You had the AFC West and gave it away. Next season you will far worse off then this season. Chargers are the has been of the AFC West. They are aging and getting worse. AFC West will be between Chiefs and Broncos with Chargers still limping along to a .500 record.

[SR]

Your logic, or lack of, really is amazing.

[OaklandRaider]

what are the raiders going to do when McFadden goes down again? He has yet to finish a season healthy and Bush is gone.

We have this kid by the name of Taiwan Jones ready to step in if DMC gets hurt. Taiwan Jones was drafted in the fourth round last year, and I'd take him over ANY RB on the Broncos roster. We also just traded for Mike Goodson, another speedster from Carolina. We have plenty of RB depth, kid.


Defense was wrecked and now they have less talent there.

Less talent? Explain please. We replaced Stanford Routt, who was statistically one of the worst CBs in the NFL last year, with Ron Bartell who is a borderline pro bowler. We replaced Lito Shepard with Shawntae Spencer, who is still a good player. We did lose Kamerion Wimbley, but we replaced him with a very solid veteran in Phillip Wheeler. We also just signed Dave Tolfeson, who is a good pass rusher from the Giants.

So please explain to me how we have less talent on defense. I'll wait.:rolleyes:



Offense has Palmer....um INT machine.

LOL you should worry about your own INT machine. His name is Peyton Manning. Last time he played, he was giving it up almost as quick as MOtorboat does when he goes to the gay club.

And FYI, Most of Palmer's INTs came from him not having chemistry with our young receivers. With a full offseason and training camp of working out together, you won't see as many INTs.


Who is going to carry your team? You guys cant even win to make it to the playoffs when we fell flat on our faces at end of season in a huge skid. You had the AFC West and gave it away. Next season you will far worse off then this season. Chargers are the has been of the AFC West. They are aging and getting worse. AFC West will be between Chiefs and Broncos with Chargers still limping along to a .500 record.

Just worry about your own team, bud. Worry about that neck of Peyton Manning. If he gets hurt, which he almost certainly will, the Broncos will be done. Your team lacks talent everywhere. Like I said, mark my words the Broncos will be a last place team this year, and Peyton Manning will call it quits after this season.

[ShaneFalco]

Dennis Allen is a good coach. He single-handedly turned a terrible defense, with little talent on it, into an average defense last year for the Broncos. Without Dennis Allen last year, the Broncos would be picking in the top 3.

Imagine what Dennis Allen can do with a defense that actually has talented players on it, like the Raiders do. At the very worst, we'll be a middle of the pack defense next year which will be good enough for us, because our offense is so dynamic.
single handled? really?
right. Champ Bailey is still an elite cb of the NFL. TOP 3. Von Miller. Dumervil. Dj Williams. Brian Dawkins.

hey dont worry dennis allen did it all himself. Not the defensive head coach john fox or any of the great players that still exist on the broncos.

Actual defensive players? hope you are not talking about the Raiders. You got a good DT and OLB. Thats it. Tebow and mcgahee still ran it down your throats...

[ShaneFalco]

Von Miller and Elvis Dumervil are udersized pass rushers, who suck against the run. Champ Bailey is still a solid player, I'll give you that, but he's nowhere near elite. And LOL DJ Williams sucks. He can't hold Rolando McClain's jockstrap.

Richard Seymour, Tommy Kelly, Desmond Bryant, LaMar Houston, Matt Shaughnessy, Rolando McClain, Aaron Curry, Tyvon Branch, Michael Huff, Ron Bartell....the list goes on and on. The Raiders defense is way more talented than the Broncos defense. Dennis Allen is licking his chops. He will turn this unit into an elite one, whiles your defense will regress with Jack "I come into work late" Del Rio.
RON BARTELL HAHA. Thank god the rams got rid of him, i was so sick of watching him get burned by Fitzgerald all day.

like i said before the 2 bolded players are your only good players. And even then Curry is a loose cannon who would rather hit tebow out of bounds and get a penalty then have it be 3rd and 15. And champ is more then elite. He is still there with Revis every step of the way at his old age.

[BroncoNut]

you make no sense OR

[NightTerror218]

We have this kid by the name of Taiwan Jones ready to step in if DMC gets hurt. Taiwan Jones was drafted in the fourth round last year, and I'd take him over ANY RB on the Broncos roster. We also just traded for Mike Goodson, another speedster from Carolina. We have plenty of RB depth, kid.



Less talent? Explain please. We replaced Stanford Routt, who was statistically one of the worst CBs in the NFL last year, with Ron Bartell who is a borderline pro bowler. We replaced Lito Shepard with Shawntae Spencer, who is still a good player. We did lose Kamerion Wimbley, but we replaced him with a very solid veteran in Phillip Wheeler. We also just signed Dave Tolfeson, who is a good pass rusher from the Giants.

So please explain to me how we have less talent on defense. I'll wait.:rolleyes:




LOL you should worry about your own INT machine. His name is Peyton Manning. Last time he played, he was giving it up almost as quick as MOtorboat does when he goes to the gay club.

And FYI, Most of Palmer's INTs came from him not having chemistry with our young receivers. With a full offseason and training camp of working out together, you won't see as many INTs.



Just worry about your own team, bud. Worry about that neck of Peyton Manning. If he gets hurt, which he almost certainly will, the Broncos will be done. Your team lacks talent everywhere. Like I said, mark my words the Broncos will be a last place team this year, and Peyton Manning will call it quits after this season.

So Oakland was a top 10 defense then right? Denver wasnt but they were sure as hell closer to it.

Palmer throw INTs like a machine before he broke the Raiders bank of ever building a good team. Mannings neck will be fine, its his arm strength and aging to worry about. Do you know anything about a fused neck surgery? It is obvious you dont and just run your mouth. If he is injured to his neck then it is in a different place then the fusion.

Lets see what the other team has beens will do for you.

[SR]

what are the raiders going to do when McFadden goes down again? He has yet to finish a season healthy and Bush is gone.

We have this kid by the name of Taiwan Jones ready to step in if DMC gets hurt. Taiwan Jones was drafted in the fourth round last year, and I'd take him over ANY RB on the Broncos roster. We also just traded for Mike Goodson, another speedster from Carolina. We have plenty of RB depth, kid.


Defense was wrecked and now they have less talent there.

Less talent? Explain please. We replaced Stanford Routt, who was statistically one of the worst CBs in the NFL last year, with Ron Bartell who is a borderline pro bowler. We replaced Lito Shepard with Shawntae Spencer, who is still a good player. We did lose Kamerion Wimbley, but we replaced him with a very solid veteran in Phillip Wheeler. We also just signed Dave Tolfeson, who is a good pass rusher from the Giants.

So please explain to me how we have less talent on defense. I'll wait.:rolleyes:



Offense has Palmer....um INT machine.

LOL you should worry about your own INT machine. His name is Peyton Manning. Last time he played, he was giving it up almost as quick as MOtorboat does when he goes to the gay club.

And FYI, Most of Palmer's INTs came from him not having chemistry with our young receivers. With a full offseason and training camp of working out together, you won't see as many INTs.


Who is going to carry your team? You guys cant even win to make it to the playoffs when we fell flat on our faces at end of season in a huge skid. You had the AFC West and gave it away. Next season you will far worse off then this season. Chargers are the has been of the AFC West. They are aging and getting worse. AFC West will be between Chiefs and Broncos with Chargers still limping along to a .500 record.

Just worry about your own team, bud. Worry about that neck of Peyton Manning. If he gets hurt, which he almost certainly will, the Broncos will be done. Your team lacks talent everywhere. Like I said, mark my words the Broncos will be a last place team this year, and Peyton Manning will call it quits after this season.

Last year after the Raiders said bye to Nnamdi you were racing to sniff Routt's ball sweat. And you're still a cocky ****.

[OaklandRaider]

Last year after the Raiders said bye to Nnamdi you were racing to sniff Routt's ball sweat. And you're still a cocky ****.

I don't recall me ever pimping Standford Routt. He was always a solid player, but I knew he was nowhere near the player Nnamdi was.

Find me a quote.

[OaklandRaider]

RON BARTELL HAHA. Thank god the rams got rid of him, i was so sick of watching him get burned by Fitzgerald all day.

Wow Ron Bartell got burned a couple times by Larry Fitzgerald. The same Larry Fitzgerald who will probably go down as one of the best receivers of all time when he retires. Ron Bartell must really suck if he let a scrub like Fitzgerald burn him.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


like i said before the 2 bolded players are your only good players. And even then Curry is a loose cannon who would rather hit tebow out of bounds and get a penalty then have it be 3rd and 15. And champ is more then elite. He is still there with Revis every step of the way at his old age.

LMAO, so Tyvon Branch is not a good player? :lol::lol: Tommy Kelly, a guy who has the most sacks out of any DT in the league over the last two years is not a good player?:lol: Matt Shaughnessy, Mike Huff, and Lamar Houston are not good players?:lol: Wow. Just stop while you're behind.

You literally have no clue what you're talking about. But it's to be expected, since you're a Bronco fan and all.....:coffee:

[OaklandRaider]

Lets see what the other team has beens will do for you.

At least the has beens we signed played last year. Can't say the same for the has been your team rushed to give 100 million dollars to.

[FanInAZ]

Wow Ron Bartell got burned a couple times by Larry Fitzgerald. The same Larry Fitzgerald who will probably go down as one of the best receivers of all time when he retires. Ron Bartell must really suck if he let a scrub like Fitzgerald burn him.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

OR, this may be the 1st time I've ever been in 100% agreement with you. In fact, I was about to high 5 your post, until I read the rest of it. You really should have quit while you were ahead.

[ShaneFalco]

Wow Ron Bartell got burned a couple times by Larry Fitzgerald. The same Larry Fitzgerald who will probably go down as one of the best receivers of all time when he retires. Ron Bartell must really suck if he let a scrub like Fitzgerald burn him.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:



LMAO, so Tyvon Branch is not a good player? :lol::lol: Tommy Kelly, a guy who has the most sacks out of any DT in the league over the last two years is not a good player?:lol: Matt Shaughnessy, Mike Huff, and Lamar Houston are not good players?:lol: Wow. Just stop while you're behind.

You literally have no clue what you're talking about. But it's to be expected, since you're a Bronco fan and all.....:coffee:

I said Larry Fitzgerald because everytime the Rams play the Cardinals, Bartell gives up a touchdown to him. Which happened to be about twice a year since they are division rivals. Sorry him getting burned by Fitz over and over is still fresh in my memory.
I could name about 15 other WR who completely embarass him every game he plays, but tbh its embarassing. You obviously dont know much about Bartell, you just see a free agent corner #1. There is a reason the Rams cut him from an already terrible team.

Dont believe me? Go Watch some Ram games from last season before he was injured for the entire season yet again. O yea he is injury prone as well.

[Timmy!]

Elite! ............for not making the playoffs in damn near a decade.

[claymore]

Elite! ............for not making the playoffs in damn near a decade.

I just took the biggest dump of my life. It reminded me of Carson Palmers career.

[NightTerror218]

At least the has beens we signed played last year. Can't say the same for the has been your team rushed to give 100 million dollars to.

But at least our has been is HOF bound and one of the best to ever play. Your has been cost you 2 1st round picks along with the other 20+ has beens on the team. Carson is horrible and will remain that way.

[Slick]

You said Routt was way better than Champ Bailey.

[underrated29]

We have this kid by the name of Taiwan Jones ready to step in if DMC gets hurt. Taiwan Jones was drafted in the fourth round last year, and I'd take him over ANY RB on the Broncos roster.




Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight


I like me some Taiwan Jones too.

But you are full of shit like al davis was ugly with what you said about him. Taiwan Jones, did step in last year, and played a fair amount when Rundmc went down. And even when he split reps with Bush Taiwan did not do jack shiat! You would not take him over any of the broncos Rbs except ball and the other backups. And when you say you would you are a liar and a dumbass. The raiders are a track team not a football team. You have like 6 football players total.