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BronColt
03-19-2012, 04:14 PM
The Broncos have scheduled a visit for center Jeff Saturday, according to a league source.

Denver is likely to bring in several players close to Manning, sources said. Brandon Stokley is expected to sign there this week, and a former Colt TE like Dallas Clark and/or Jacob Tamme could be added as well.

All three players are free agents.

Denver lost TE Daniel Fells to the Patriots today.

Denver also needs to add interior offensive line depth. Second-year center J.D. Walton has started 32 straight games and was taken in the third round in 2010.

Here come the BronColts!

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CoachChaz
03-19-2012, 04:18 PM
I'll take Tamme over Clark. Saturday is an upgrade and Stokes is always a welcome addition.

Just say not to Addai

Northman
03-19-2012, 04:19 PM
I dont mind Clark personally. Not sure why Coach is against him but the dude when healthy poses matchup problems.

Nomad
03-19-2012, 04:20 PM
I didn't know Stokley still played.

Magnificent Seven
03-19-2012, 04:21 PM
This is Broncos Country! It is not "Broncolts!"

BigDaddyBronco
03-19-2012, 04:21 PM
He was in Seattle last year wasn't he?

aberdien
03-19-2012, 04:21 PM
Where'd you get this info from?

I could've sworn Stokely was retired. And really slow.

HORSEPOWER 56
03-19-2012, 04:23 PM
That's 2 new Manning fans already... And you guys thought the 4 or 5 Tebow fanbois were bringing this place down...

Oh, where are my manners... Welcome BronColt!

NightTrainLayne
03-19-2012, 04:24 PM
I don't doubt that Stokley is a free agent, but. .. . I didn't think he really had anything left in the tank. Who's he going to beat out to make the roster?

wayninja
03-19-2012, 04:25 PM
Broncolts?

This is going to be fun!

Northman
03-19-2012, 04:27 PM
That's 2 new Manning fans already... And you guys thought the 4 or 5 Tebow fanbois were bringing this place down...



So far they havent been near as bad as the Teboi's. Ive only seen one Colt fan that has been an idiot but he was quickly ignored.

Nomad
03-19-2012, 04:27 PM
Denver's going to need an AARP representative stationed at Dove Valley for the next few years.

Jsteve01
03-19-2012, 04:29 PM
just say no to Tamme and Clark, one is a slug and the other old. The only guy on that list that I want is Saturday

wayninja
03-19-2012, 04:29 PM
So far they havent been near as bad as the Teboi's. Ive only seen one Colt fan that has been an idiot but he was quickly ignored.

Yeah, so far, several hours into it.

If I hear 'Broncolts' one more time, it would be 1 time too many. It was bad enough that we had to see Jagsbch perversion of our avatar, but this is beyond the pale.

Manning is (or soon will be) a Bronco. The Manningacs are welcome, but respect the team.

wayninja
03-19-2012, 04:30 PM
Denver's going to need an AARP representative stationed at Dove Valley for the next few years.

It'll be nice for players to double dip a salary and social security disbursements.

bronco buckeye
03-19-2012, 04:32 PM
Any other wrs might get talked to

underrated29
03-19-2012, 04:38 PM
no to clark
no to stokley, i love him but willis is younger and faster, just as good at routes
HELL NO to addai!


Flame me- I wouldnt mind giving anothony gonzalez a shot. There might be something there with that kid, but I havent followed him enough to know for sure.

SpringsBroncoFan
03-19-2012, 04:43 PM
Hmmm... besides Saturday can we have Ryan Diem??? Can play either G or RT... He'll be 32 but hey, gives us time to deal with OL upgrades...

dogfish
03-19-2012, 04:46 PM
I'll take Tamme over Clark. Saturday is an upgrade and Stokes is always a welcome addition.

Just say not to Addai

all of this. . .

MileHighCrew
03-19-2012, 04:46 PM
It is just the beginning. For everyone screaming for FA's get ready, I would predict a busy week coming.

NightTerror218
03-19-2012, 04:47 PM
Clarke and manning are money together until j. Thomas comes around.

BroncoJoe
03-19-2012, 04:47 PM
Try to win now, screw the future. Gotta love it.

I thought we fired Shanahan...

BronColt
03-19-2012, 04:50 PM
No crazy Colts fan here! I've been a Peyton Manning fan since I went to college with him while he was QB there. Obviously was rooting for the Colts while he was there, but you can count me in as a full blown Denver Broncos fan!

Here is the link to that article by the way.

http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/03/19/broncos-to-host-mannings-former-c-saturday

Glad to be in here and look forward to good football talk with my new team and fan friends!

FYI I live in Vegas, but WILL be getting season tickets. Never been to a Broncos game before and I like to tailgate. I'm sure I'll be meeting alot of you soon! Also, Coors Light is my favorite beer and I will be bringing a keg for every game.

Go Broncos!!!!

dogfish
03-19-2012, 04:51 PM
I dont mind Clark personally. Not sure why Coach is against him but the dude when healthy poses matchup problems.

you answered your own question. . . dude is rarely fully healthy-- he's 32, and is breaking down. . .



I don't doubt that Stokley is a free agent, but. .. . I didn't think he really had anything left in the tank. Who's he going to beat out to make the roster?

not counting injured reserve and the practice squad, we currently have four WRs under contract-- we'll carry at least five, maybe even six with manning on board. . . stokes wouldn't have to beat anyone at this point. . .

i'm pretty sure he could take d'andre goodwin-- just sayin'. . . .

Lancane
03-19-2012, 04:52 PM
Stokely is a Bronco at heart, he lives in Denver and we were dumb to ever let him go.

Lancane
03-19-2012, 04:54 PM
Try to win now, screw the future. Gotta love it.

I thought we fired Shanahan...

Shanahan is spitting nickles, we just signed the one quarterback he loves next to John himself, the reason he drafted Cutler, and the reason he and his Redskins traded away their future for RGIII!

dogfish
03-19-2012, 04:58 PM
Try to win now, screw the future. Gotta love it.

I thought we fired Shanahan...

don't you go bringing us down, joe!

:defense:

having a mountain of cap space and a first ballot hall of fame quarterback available in unrestricted free agency is a once in a lifetime opportunity. . . i don't see how you can't love going for it. . . it's not like we had to mortgage our future by giving up draft picks. . . this is most likely about a three year window, and win or lose, all the old FAs will only be on the books a few years. . .

BronColt
03-19-2012, 04:59 PM
I posted this last week on a different forum the day after Manning made his first visit to the Broncos.

I just got a call from a friend that lives in Stillwater OK, where he was in attendance and works security at the Oklahoma State pro day. He said that Manning arrived at the facility and was greeted by Elway, Fox and Xanders and were then escorted into a meeting room. Shortly afterwards, Justin Blackmon was brought into said conference room and stayed for a while. The doors opened and Blackmon ran down the hall back to the field with a huge smile on his face. The rest of the posse left shortly afterwards to escort Manning to their private jet heading to Denver.

He did not hear anything from anybody what was said, but one can only make a clear assumption of what was discussed in that room. Does Denver have the ability to move up to get Blackmon?

MOtorboat
03-19-2012, 05:01 PM
No crazy Colts fan here! I've been a Peyton Manning fan since I went to college with him while he was QB there. Obviously was rooting for the Colts while he was there, but you can count me in as a full blown Denver Broncos fan!

Here is the link to that article by the way.

http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/03/19/broncos-to-host-mannings-former-c-saturday

Glad to be in here and look forward to good football talk with my new team and fan friends!

FYI I live in Vegas, but WILL be getting season tickets. Never been to a Broncos game before and I like to tailgate. I'm sure I'll be meeting alot of you soon! Also, Coors Light is my favorite beer and I will be bringing a keg for every game.

Go Broncos!!!!

Todd Helton? Is that you?

spikerman
03-19-2012, 05:09 PM
no to clark
no to stokley, i love him but willis is younger and faster, just as good at routes
HELL NO to addai!


Flame me- I wouldnt mind giving anothony gonzalez a shot. There might be something there with that kid, but I havent followed him enough to know for sure.
I believe Gonzalez already signed with the Pats.

G_Money
03-19-2012, 05:16 PM
Saturday is the one I want. Saturday and a shuffle at LG/RT gets me everything I want on the OL for the next couple years. Fearsome. Saturday is running down, but like Nalen or Wiegmann even the end of his tank is still productive, and he can organize the OL for all those bizarre Manning audibles. SOMEbody needs to understand what the hell he's talking about when he changes the protections 4 times before snapping the ball.

Don't need Stokes but it doesn't hurt to bring him in as a 4th wide. Tamme would be fine.

Still want a damn MLB though - just not one from the Colts. Ew.

~G

Slick
03-19-2012, 05:19 PM
I bet Reggie Wayne wishes he had a time machine. I would buy him one if I could.

G_Money
03-19-2012, 05:25 PM
DT's gonna have to learn how to run routes. "I'ma run around out here in a vague J shape and catch something" isn't gonna work.

~G

weazel
03-19-2012, 05:28 PM
I don't doubt that Stokley is a free agent, but. .. . I didn't think he really had anything left in the tank. Who's he going to beat out to make the roster?

tebow?

rationalfan
03-19-2012, 05:33 PM
DT's gonna have to learn how to run routes. "I'ma run around out here in a vague J shape and catch something" isn't gonna work.

~G

and i'm sure tebow's tendency to hold the ball too long and scramble a lot had nothing to do with the receivers' route running. nothing.

SmilinAssasSin27
03-19-2012, 05:36 PM
I bet Reggie Wayne wishes he had a time machine. I would buy him one if I could.

his wife didn't wanna leave Indy

dogfish
03-19-2012, 05:39 PM
Still want a damn MLB though - just not one from the Colts. Ew.

~G

i already posted it somewhere else, but i'ma post it again, damn it! this is gonna be too much fun. . . :D

get manning the parts he needs on offense with the rest of our cap space, hope for hightower at 25, and draft a RB and corner with our next couple of picks. . .

BroncoStud
03-19-2012, 05:39 PM
Brandon Stokley is the man, sign him, always liked having him on the team...

Clark is still good, Tamme is solid, Saturday is a no-brainer.

dogfish
03-19-2012, 05:39 PM
his wife didn't wanna leave Indy

she's clearly never been to colorado. . .

:D

Krugan
03-19-2012, 05:41 PM
skip the lot please and thank you, well maybe saturday

Stokely is old and slow, and we have been down that road before.

Clark is forever injured and old.

Havent payed enough attention to the other.

Would prefer if this wasnt the place where old colts come to die.

frauschieze
03-19-2012, 05:50 PM
I'd take the Slot Machine back. The happiness it would bring pn is just bonus.

And Saturday is a no brainer, especially for the reasons G gave.

SmilinAssasSin27
03-19-2012, 05:58 PM
Sign Cedric Benson, Early Doucet, Jeff Saturday and Jameel McClain.

:hi:

dogfish
03-19-2012, 06:05 PM
Sign Benjarvus Green-Ellis, Early Doucet, Jeff Saturday and Jameel McClain.

:hi:

i LIKE IT!!

Dapper Dan
03-19-2012, 06:09 PM
I've always been a big fan on Jacob Tamme. Stokley and Clark would contribute. Saturday will be a big upgrade. Having people like these guys would keep Manning comfortable. Especially not having to change the QB/C exchange that's worked for years.

G_Money
03-19-2012, 06:09 PM
and i'm sure tebow's tendency to hold the ball too long and scramble a lot had nothing to do with the receivers' route running. nothing.

DT has never run a real route (other than a fly, I guess) in his life. Didn't have to in college playing for an option team, then he was injured here when we were trying to run real routes. Somebody's gonna have to teach him crisp execution of routes because Manning's system lives and dies on it. It's not about Tebow, it's about one of DT's deficiencies.

He's amazingly talented but a crisp timing system cannot be compensated in by athletic talent - you actually have to do what is required in the system. He'd have the same problem in New Orleans with Brees. Gotta be where you're supposed to be. The window is designed by time and crisp execution and Manning doesn't have the arm to squeeze it in if you screw up and round the corner off on the route, especially now.

Run routes and catch balls: two musts going forward. You'd think that'd be simple for a wide receiver, but DT's gonna need to put in some work before September to make sure Peyton will throw him the ball.

~G

dogfish
03-19-2012, 06:19 PM
DT has never run a real route (other than a fly, I guess) in his life. Didn't have to in college playing for an option team, then he was injured here when we were trying to run real routes. Somebody's gonna have to teach him crisp execution of routes because Manning's system lives and dies on it. It's not about Tebow, it's about one of DT's deficiencies.

He's amazingly talented but a crisp timing system cannot be compensated in by athletic talent - you actually have to do what is required in the system. He'd have the same problem in New Orleans with Brees. Gotta be where you're supposed to be. The window is designed by time and crisp execution and Manning doesn't have the arm to squeeze it in if you screw up and round the corner off on the route, especially now.

Run routes and catch balls: two musts going forward. You'd think that'd be simple for a wide receiver, but DT's gonna need to put in some work before September to make sure Peyton will throw him the ball.

~G

absolutely. . .

bringing in a consummate pro like stokes or clark is going to help the kids a lot, and manning's perfectionism will play in our favor as well. . . we know how much time he spent going through route trees with marvin and reggie, and i'm positive he'll be doing the same thing here as soon as he can-- it's quite likely that he'll get the WRs together even before OTAs, as long as his rehab schedule is at that point. . . DT and decker have to put the work in, but i'm at least comfortable that they'll have top notch guidance for a change. . .

plus, you know what they've always said about third year wideouts. . .

claymore
03-19-2012, 06:24 PM
absolutely. . .

bringing in a consummate pro like stokes or clark is going to help the kids a lot, and manning's perfectionism will play in our favor as well. . . we know how much time he spent going through route trees with marvin and reggie, and i'm positive he'll be doing the same thing here as soon as he can-- it's quite likely that he'll get the WRs together even before OTAs, as long as his rehab schedule is at that point. . . DT and decker have to put the work in, but i'm at least comfortable that they'll have top notch guidance for a change. . .

plus, you know what they've always said about third year wideouts. . .

They will be giddy as school girls to play catch with Manning.

CoachChaz
03-19-2012, 06:28 PM
Still want a damn MLB though - just not one from the Colts. Ew.

~G

i already posted it somewhere else, but i'ma post it again, damn it! this is gonna be too much fun. . . :D

get manning the parts he needs on offense with the rest of our cap space, hope for hightower at 25, and draft a RB and corner with our next couple of picks. . .

Still have 4 FA options available. From what I understand they are looking for D'Qwell Jackson money. That price will come down once the talent in the draft is available. There are 5 or 6 ILBs in the draft that can be solid 1st and 2nd day pickups. I think we can land one. Preferably one of the FAs so we can look at Reyes/Cox in the 1st

G_Money
03-19-2012, 06:29 PM
They're gonna be thrilled, and so are we. A functional offense that can score will be a nice change.

Hope we don't abandon the run game though - Manning WITH a run-capable O would be a monster.

~G

Nomad
03-19-2012, 06:31 PM
Still have 4 FA options available. From what I understand they are looking for D'Qwell Jackson money. That price will come down once the talent in the draft is available. There are 5 or 6 ILBs in the draft that can be solid 1st and 2nd day pickups. I think we can land one. Preferably one of the FAs so we can look at Reyes/Cox in the 1st

Agreed!

dogfish
03-19-2012, 06:37 PM
Still have 4 FA options available. From what I understand they are looking for D'Qwell Jackson money. That price will come down once the talent in the draft is available. There are 5 or 6 ILBs in the draft that can be solid 1st and 2nd day pickups. I think we can land one. Preferably one of the FAs so we can look at Reyes/Cox in the 1st

if we can get somebody like tulloch, or lofton, **** yea. . . i'd be fine with david hawthorne. . .

i'm still going to assume denver will never draft another DT in the first until i see it with my own eyes, though. . .


i wish we'd consider replacing goody with tracy porter-- especially since the fade needs a corner and has a meeting with him scheduled. . .

G_Money
03-19-2012, 06:38 PM
Still have 4 FA options available. From what I understand they are looking for D'Qwell Jackson money. That price will come down once the talent in the draft is available. There are 5 or 6 ILBs in the draft that can be solid 1st and 2nd day pickups. I think we can land one. Preferably one of the FAs so we can look at Reyes/Cox in the 1st

I want one of the FAs at MLB. Connor / Lofton / Tulloch (Tulloch's still out there right?). We'll still have the money for that once one of their agents blinks, like you say. I'd love Cox (that sounds bad) in the first. I'd also take Martin at OT, one of the idiot corners (Jenkins preferrably) if they liked his interview, or a couple others. There's talent in the late-first and I want an immediate starter out of it NOW. Champ wants his Super Bowl, and if we're gearing up to get it for him then go all the way.

Next guy who wants Weeden with a first or second rounder gets Tebowed in the crotch. Only starters need apply.

~G

dogfish
03-19-2012, 06:39 PM
They will be giddy as school girls to play catch with Manning.

so would you, i think. . . :eek:

Nomad
03-19-2012, 06:40 PM
if we can get somebody like tulloch, or lofton, **** yea. . . i'd be fine with david hawthorne. . .

i'm still going to assume denver will never draft another DT in the first until i see it with my own eyes, though. . .


i wish we'd consider replacing goody with tracy porter-- especially since the fade needs a corner and has a meeting with him scheduled. . .

Gotta keep the faith alive!

What will happened is BRONCOS move up in the 1st to get Blackmon from Okie St. That's a typical BRONCO move.

OrangeHoof
03-19-2012, 06:45 PM
I will be bringing a keg for every game.


How to win friends and influence people...

red98
03-19-2012, 06:45 PM
They're gonna be thrilled, and so are we. A functional offense that can score will be a nice change.

Hope we don't abandon the run game though - Manning WITH a run-capable O would be a monster.

~G

I was happy to hear Polian on ESPN say Peyton told him the one thing he absolutely wants is a strong running game.

Very happy.

chazoe60
03-19-2012, 06:48 PM
Maybe this helps Jameel McClain sign with us? Maybe we now bring Conor in for a visit since we have a better idea of our $ situation? I agree with G, we desperately need to address MLB.


Man I wish we could get far enough up in the draft to get Kuechly!!!

igoe4broncos
03-19-2012, 06:48 PM
I say we sign all the Browns' defensive linemen and become the "Browncos" instead.

Oh wait, that already happened...

dogfish
03-19-2012, 06:51 PM
A source with knowledge of the situation tells PFT that Saturday is in Green Bay for a visit with the Packers. He’d replace starter Scott Wells, who signed with the Rams.

Next, Saturday will visit the Titans, who whiffed on Wells and Texans center Chris Myers.

Then, if he hasn’t already signed, Saturday will arrive in Denver to visit Peyton’s new team.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/19/saturday-starts-his-free-agent-tour-in-green-bay/

:rolleyes:

come on, manning, put in a call for us and see if we can expedite this process a little bit-- we've waited long enough, let's get this thing rolling in earnest!

Nomad
03-19-2012, 06:53 PM
I thought Saturday was a lock here out of any of the players mentioned.

BORDERLINE
03-19-2012, 06:54 PM
i'm all for D.Clark to get on board. Manning and Clark would terrorize the Broncos every time. Their chemistryis great. And I would LOVE for that to be in the Broncos passing attack. As far as Saturday is concerned I guess making Manning is comfortable is important and Jeff would do that.

slim
03-19-2012, 06:57 PM
Why are you guys still talking about FA MLBs?

They are paying Mays $4 million a year....he is the starting MLB.

dogfish
03-19-2012, 07:01 PM
Why are you guys still talking about FA MLBs?


because mays sucks, regardless of what they're paying him. . . :lol:

slim
03-19-2012, 07:04 PM
because mays sucks, regardless of what they're paying him. . . :lol:

Yeah, I agree. Our starting MLB sucks....oh well, at least he has a nice bubble :eek:

claymore
03-19-2012, 07:06 PM
Why are you guys still talking about FA MLBs?

They are paying Mays $4 million a year....he is the starting MLB.

Are they really paying him 4 million a year? :SMH: i cant see the sense in that.

slim
03-19-2012, 07:07 PM
Are they really paying him 4 million a year? :SMH: i cant see the sense in that.

I think it was 3 years and 12 million....could be wrong.

I can't believe they did that when there were better options available.

hotcarl
03-19-2012, 07:20 PM
Fire Elway!

dogfish
03-19-2012, 07:22 PM
Yeah, I agree. Our starting MLB sucks....oh well, at least he has a nice bubble :eek:

thanks, beef. . .

Superchop 7
03-19-2012, 07:37 PM
Saturday and Stokley would essentially be player coaches......and its a smart move. Personally I love having Stokely back.......I remember 2 years ago when McDs new megastar cb draft pick was talking shit to him in practice......Stokely owned him the next 6 plays......and did not say a word. He played for the Giants last year........went on IR. Glad to have him back.......superb route runner.

LTC Pain
03-19-2012, 07:56 PM
Sign Saturday now. Take a close look at Clark to makle sure he's healthy. Those are the only two ex-Colts I want on the roster. Then sign Porter and McLain. This will help us on both sides of the ball.

SpringsBroncoFan
03-19-2012, 08:37 PM
I think it was 3 years and 12 million....could be wrong.

I can't believe they did that when there were better options available.

Yeah, that's what it is... sucks... I'd rather give Bunk the 12 mil over 2 years ala Soliai and then make Fox eat his Nascar MLB in Irving... or pick a new one in the draft...

Medford Bronco
03-19-2012, 08:41 PM
Fire Elway!

I thought it Fire McDaniels.

Today I finally feel the stench of the forgettable McDaniels era is done.

hotcarl
03-19-2012, 08:48 PM
I thought it Fire McDaniels.

Today I finally feel the stench of the forgettable McDaniels era is done.

It was amazingly adept of Elway and fox to make it happen in a year. Fun ride last year to 8-8, can't wait for this one. Considering not killing myself now. If we don't get Clark and Saturday I'm going to kill my cats and mice.

camdisco24
03-19-2012, 08:52 PM
I would love to have Stokely here again. He was my favorite underdog player. Such a awesome guy off the field too. If he's willing to come cheap. Why not?

WTE
03-19-2012, 08:58 PM
I would love to have Stokely here again. He was my favorite underdog player. Such a awesome guy off the field too. If he's willing to come cheap. Why not?

Remember when Denver signed Stokely at couple years ago at the same time when Welker began in NE and I said Welker > Stokely and you guys laughed at me?

That was awesome!

chazoe60
03-19-2012, 09:00 PM
Remember when Denver signed Stokely at couple years ago at the same time when Welker began in NE and I said Welker > Stokely and you guys laughed at me?

That was awesome!
Was that the same year you lost to the Giants in the SB the first time? You know, when you guys went 18-1 and we all laughed at you?

That was awesome.

WTE
03-19-2012, 09:15 PM
Was that the same year you lost to the Giants in the SB the first time?

I actually didn't dress for that game Chazzy. I had a neck injury. Still hurts bad. Makes me afraid of contact.

chazoe60
03-19-2012, 09:51 PM
I actually didn't dress for that game Chazzy. I had a neck injury. Still hurts bad. Makes me afraid of contact.

I'm sure beef would ease you back in nice and gentle.

topscribe
03-19-2012, 09:52 PM
Maybe this helps Jameel McClain sign with us? Maybe we now bring Conor in for a visit since we have a better idea of our $ situation? I agree with G, we desperately need to address MLB.


Man I wish we could get far enough up in the draft to get Kuechly!!!

I would be happy with McClain and/or Connor. I'm thinking that Irving might do better over on D.J.'s side, anyway . . .

BroncoAV06
03-19-2012, 10:05 PM
Didn't Dan Conner sign with Dallas?

Remember the Brown-cos? Those were the days.

SpringsBroncoFan
03-19-2012, 10:26 PM
Didn't Dan Conner sign with Dallas?

Remember the Brown-cos? Those were the days.

Yes he's with Dallas... and we are paying Mays 4 mil per so unless we draft another mlb forget about it...

BeefStew25
03-19-2012, 10:34 PM
I already miss Eddie Royal. :(

DenBronx
03-19-2012, 10:41 PM
You guys are flippin crazy if you think Clark wouldnt be an upgrade.

We have had Daniel freaken Fells as our tight end....nothing more to say.

wayninja
03-19-2012, 10:46 PM
I have to admit wrong and eat a bit of crow. There certainly seems to be much more buzz about FA players now that manning has signed. I'm not sure how much of that is purely manufactured, but it can't be all of it.

Saturday would be a good upgrade over Walton, but the rest seems very offense oriented. Not that it's a bad thing, I just think we still need to look for some Defensive guys. A DT would be nice if we can't re-sign Bunk.

G_Money
03-20-2012, 01:27 AM
Yes he's with Dallas... and we are paying Mays 4 mil per so unless we draft another mlb forget about it...

Wait...we paid Mays WHAT??? :mad:

G_Money
03-20-2012, 01:29 AM
http://gifsoup.com/view/170168/bobby-knight-chair-o.gif

SpringsBroncoFan
03-20-2012, 02:00 AM
Wait...we paid Mays WHAT??? :mad:

You snooze you lose... did you just wake up??? :lol: Yup, we paid Mays the same $ over 3 years that Soliai (and perhaps Bunk) would get over 2 years... Which would you prefer? :confused:

dogfish
03-20-2012, 02:01 AM
You snooze you lose... did you just wake up??? :lol: Yup, we paid Mays the same $ over 3 years that Soliai (and perhaps Bunk) would get over 2 years... Which would you prefer? :confused:

does soliai have a nickname as cool as "the idiot cannonball?" i think not. . .

SOCALORADO.
03-20-2012, 07:42 AM
Hopefully DEN signs both Clark and Tamme. Clark is still a huge weapon with Manning. And Tamme is a younger version of Clark. Tamme would be huge. both those players would make the offense very potent. Tamme would be a monster for years to come.

Mike
03-20-2012, 07:48 AM
because mays sucks, regardless of what they're paying him. . . :lol:

I thought our FO was all about value signings?

CoachChaz
03-20-2012, 07:51 AM
EFX should be lynched for paying Mays that kind of money for a 2 down MLB

claymore
03-20-2012, 07:53 AM
EFX should be lynched for paying Mays that kind of money for a 2 down MLB

Hopefully this is one of those things we look back and say "man was I wrong".

CoachChaz
03-20-2012, 08:14 AM
Hopefully this is one of those things we look back and say "man was I wrong".

If we do, it would be more of a miracle than anything Tebow has ever been given credit for

MOtorboat
03-20-2012, 08:33 AM
An indictment of Irving? Seems odd too. I was really hoping they'd move on from Mays at MLB.

BigDaddyBronco
03-20-2012, 08:58 AM
Still have 4 FA options available. From what I understand they are looking for D'Qwell Jackson money. That price will come down once the talent in the draft is available. There are 5 or 6 ILBs in the draft that can be solid 1st and 2nd day pickups. I think we can land one. Preferably one of the FAs so we can look at Reyes/Cox in the 1st

I'll fall out of my chair if we draft a DT on Day 1.

Nomad
03-20-2012, 09:04 AM
I'll fall out of my chair if we draft a DT on Day 1.

As an advocate all these years, I'd be floored as well.

EFX has to/needs to keep the course and build a stronger defense. Manning can work with any tools and make an offense shine.

MOtorboat
03-20-2012, 09:10 AM
I'll fall out of my chair if we draft a DT on Day 1.

This is the year.

:chicagocubssyndrome:

slim
03-20-2012, 09:18 AM
I'll fall out of my chair if we draft a DT on Day 1.

At this point I will be happy if they go RT in round 1 and move Franklin inside. Clady, Franklin, Saturday, Kuper, legit RT.....

Since we both know they won't be drafting a DT, I want them to go OL.

claymore
03-20-2012, 09:20 AM
I just want them to go BPA. At 25 or 26 there has to be some guys that slip.

Nomad
03-20-2012, 09:22 AM
At this point I will be happy if they go RT in round 1 and move Franklin inside. Clady, Franklin, Saturday, Kuper, legit RT.....

Since we both know they won't be drafting a DT, I want them to go OL.


Gotta shore up the lines! But you know the BRONCOS, slim, they go after the shiny, new toy that has defects. Last year, they actually did good for a change.

broken12
03-20-2012, 09:25 AM
Remember wwe addes harris back at end of the year if healthy he can play rt and move franklin inside....saturday will get these guys in check!

HORSEPOWER 56
03-20-2012, 09:28 AM
I just want them to go BPA. At 25 or 26 there has to be some guys that slip.

Brandon Weeden? ;)

ShooterJM
03-20-2012, 09:32 AM
It doesn't matter how great our TE's are at catching if we're always in max protect because the line can't block 4.

HORSEPOWER 56
03-20-2012, 09:36 AM
It doesn't matter how great our TE's are at catching if we're always in max protect because the line can't block 4.

That's the biggest thing Manning adds to this offense. Small ball/short passing game/timing/quick release. He won't hold the ball as long and so the line won't have to protect him as long.

Cugel
03-20-2012, 11:19 AM
Denver's going to need an AARP representative stationed at Dove Valley for the next few years.

They could just buy a few of these to take the players to and from the field:

1287

ShooterJM
03-20-2012, 11:29 AM
That's the biggest thing Manning adds to this offense. Small ball/short passing game/timing/quick release. He won't hold the ball as long and so the line won't have to protect him as long.

For his sake, I hope so. They'll still need to learn to hold a pocket for 3 seconds.

SpringsBroncoFan
03-20-2012, 12:08 PM
At this point I will be happy if they go RT in round 1 and move Franklin inside. Clady, Franklin, Saturday, Kuper, legit RT.....

Since we both know they won't be drafting a DT, I want them to go OL.


Nah, they'll surprise us ...


Clady, Franklin, Saturday, Kuper, Grant !!! :lol:

At least nobody bull rushes that group... Grant's footwork is about the same as Franklin and it removes the weak link in pass protection(assuming he's ready at RT) although you could just plug Grant in for Beadles too but I doubt they'd go there.

Glenn or Adams could both start at RT and maybe they do it if Cox, Hill, Wright, Kirkpatrick, Gilmore are gone.

I'm not sure Sanders is an upgrade. Massie or Schwartz would be nice but burning the 2nd with our needs?

Can all these guys handle Peyton's offense? And does Weeden fit at 1 or 2?

It seems to me that they would either promote Grant or sign one of Schwartz, Collins, or Diem - all G/T two way guys. Diem is old but already knows the offense and Collins is a bit risky but it's just hard seeing them burn a 1 or 2 there.

claymore
03-20-2012, 01:29 PM
Brandon Weeden? ;)

We need to bring in a stud buffalo to groom. IMO... But I doubt Weeden is the BPA at 25. :)

SpringsBroncoFan
03-20-2012, 01:34 PM
We need to bring in a stud buffalo to groom. IMO... But I doubt Weeden is the BPA at 25. :)

Ah ya got me... :lol: Not so much that as opposed to drafting starters in the 1st... obviously Weeden doesn't fit that criteria... at least not without a crystal ball that tells you he'll be needed to start next year :eek:

CoachChaz
03-20-2012, 01:45 PM
We need to bring in a stud buffalo to groom. IMO... But I doubt Weeden is the BPA at 25. :)

Not sure that stud makes his way to Denver this year. Not unless we fill quite a few more holes in FA

topscribe
03-20-2012, 10:24 PM
Saw it on Twitter: Saturday has left Seattle without a contract, headed for Denver. Tamme is scheduled here Friday . . .

chazoe60
03-20-2012, 10:33 PM
Saw it on Twitter: Saturday has left Seattle without a contract, headed for Denver. Tamme is scheduled here Friday . . .

I've pretty much considered Saturday a Bronco since Monday morning when I heard Manning was coming here. Tamme, I honestly don't know much about. Saturday is gonna be a great signing. Walton was a weak link on our line and Saturday is a definite upgrade.

HORSEPOWER 56
03-20-2012, 10:40 PM
I've pretty much considered Saturday a Bronco since Monday morning when I heard Manning was coming here. Tamme, I honestly don't know much about. Saturday is gonna be a great signing. Walton was a weak link on our line and Saturday is a definite upgrade.

Most importantly, he can teach the O-lineman all of Peyton's crazy-assed lingo.

Anyone ever heard him back there? Sounds like he's ordering lunch while watching a bad B-movie: "Bacon, bacon, bacon", "Fruit Loops, Fruit Loops", "Swizzle Stick", "Pootytang, hut!"

:shocked:

topscribe
03-20-2012, 10:45 PM
Most importantly, he can teach the O-lineman all of Peyton's crazy-assed lingo.

Anyone ever heard him back there? Sounds like he's ordering lunch while watching a bad B-movie: "Bacon, bacon, bacon", "Fruit Loops, Fruit Loops", "Swizzle Stick", "Pootytang, hut!"

:shocked:
Well, that will probably be the most valuable aspect of having Saturday here . . . and even Tamme. Saturday would be spending much more time with the other linemen than Manning. They go in for the team meeting, then they break up into their respective groups. Being the center and the "quarterback" of the O-line, Saturday's familiarity and knowledge of Peyton's system would be priceless . . .

dogfish
03-21-2012, 10:22 AM
so, will signing saturday mean we have to ship off walton, or does that only work for quarterbacks?

BigDaddyBronco
03-21-2012, 10:30 AM
Walton is better than Ramirez, is that the scrub we had last year?

Ravage!!!
03-21-2012, 11:13 AM
so, will signing saturday mean we have to ship off walton, or does that only work for quarterbacks?

Only for QBs. Walton would be a good back-up to center and guard. I love Saturday, but I have a sick feeling he's as much as an injury risk as Petyon.

SOCALORADO.
03-21-2012, 11:19 AM
Shanahan is spitting nickles, we just signed the one quarterback he loves next to John himself, the reason he drafted Cutler, and the reason he and his Redskins traded away their future for RGIII!

Yep. Shanny must just be sitting in a dark room with a class of cognac staring at the wall.
The entire reason he moved up and got Cutler was because of Manning. And now DEN got him!
Man, if you told me this was gonna happen a year ago, i would laughed my ass off in your face,
and told you to shut up!
Unreal man!

SOCALORADO.
03-21-2012, 11:20 AM
so, will signing saturday mean we have to ship off walton, or does that only work for quarterbacks?

No. Walton provides solid depth at 2 positions. Tebow could only play one position. RB.

tomjonesrocks
03-21-2012, 11:40 AM
No. Walton provides solid depth at 2 positions. Tebow could only play one position. RB.

Tebow's a goal line monster. Have red zone problems? Adding Tebow to your goal package makes a LOT of sense.

tomjonesrocks
03-21-2012, 11:43 AM
Yep. Shanny must just be sitting in a dark room with a class of cognac staring at the wall.
The entire reason he moved up and got Cutler was because of Manning. And now DEN got him!
Man, if you told me this was gonna happen a year ago, i would laughed my ass off in your face,
and told you to shut up!
Unreal man!

I don't think Shanahan's spitting anything. The whole organization went to historical, unfathomable lows the instant he was fired.

The whole thing doesn't need to be revisited--but obviously in hindsight that whole thing did not work out for the Broncos, which on some level has to be deeply satisfying to Shanahan.

If Manning can last a few seasons and/or Cutler doesn't continue to progress as he has been will the stench of McD finally be out of this organization.

vandammage13
03-21-2012, 11:43 AM
If we can sign Saturday, move Walton to the bench, and Kuper fully recover then our line will be pretty good IMO.

A bonus would be to sign a good RT and move Franklin inside and send Beadles to the bench as well.

SOCALORADO.
03-21-2012, 11:47 AM
Tebow's a goal line monster. Have red zone problems? Adding Tebow to your goal package makes a LOT of sense.

Tim Tebow no longer works for the Denver Broncos. Sorry, man. You have my condolences and all that shit.

SOCALORADO.
03-21-2012, 11:49 AM
I don't think Shanahan's spitting anything. The whole organization went to historical, unfathomable lows the instant he was fired.

The whole thing doesn't need to be revisited--but obviously in hindsight that whole thing did not work out for the Broncos, which on some level has to be deeply satisfying to Shanahan.

If Manning can last a few seasons and/or Cutler doesn't continue to progress as he has been will the stench of McD finally be out of this organization.

Dude, you must not know the story of why Shanny specifically no longer wanted Plummer and wanted Cutler and how Manning played a huge role in it.

Dapper Dan
03-22-2012, 11:42 AM
So what happen with Saturday, Tamme, Stokley, and Clark?

Ravage!!!
03-22-2012, 11:52 AM
If Manning can last a few seasons and/or Cutler doesn't continue to progress as he has been will the stench of McD finally be out of this organization.

Cutler has been progressing very well. He proved to be a very good QB last year.

TimHippo
03-22-2012, 11:56 AM
I assume all of Peyton's guys will be coming here shortly.

MileHighCrew
03-23-2012, 12:18 PM
Saturday signed with Packers. on pft.com

wayninja
03-23-2012, 12:28 PM
That sucks, while I don't think Walton is as terrible as some make him out, he still has a long way to go before he's a 'good' center... We could use an upgrade...

wayninja
03-23-2012, 12:31 PM
Found a report that Stokley has no visit scheduled to Denver.

Dapper Dan
03-23-2012, 12:36 PM
Tamme still working out with Denver, and Seattle.

CoachChaz
03-23-2012, 12:46 PM
Dressden brings the same things Tamme would and probably more. No need for him now.

Keep fixing the D

SpringsBroncoFan
03-23-2012, 12:48 PM
That sucks, while I don't think Walton is as terrible as some make him out, he still has a long way to go before he's a 'good' center... We could use an upgrade...

Good luck! lol There are still 8 left in the FA shopping cart! If they sign one we know what they really think of Walton... Don't know if any of them are any good...

Ziggy
03-23-2012, 01:05 PM
Dressden brings the same things Tamme would and probably more. No need for him now.

Keep fixing the D

He's a much better blocker than Tamme. Manning is going to turn him into a beast. Tamme may still come in as a receiving TE, but no big loss if he doesn't.

Peyton_To_Denver
03-23-2012, 01:06 PM
Tamme to denver sounds good to me

CoachChaz
03-23-2012, 01:26 PM
I know we're still talking to Tamme, but adding Dreessen lets Thomas play the "catch first" role in the other TE spot. If Dreessen or Tamme are on a 1 year contract, then fine, but I want to see what JT can do with Manning throwing the rock

SOCALORADO.
03-23-2012, 01:42 PM
I know we're still talking to Tamme, but adding Dreessen lets Thomas play the "catch first" role in the other TE spot. If Dreessen or Tamme are on a 1 year contract, then fine, but I want to see what JT can do with Manning throwing the rock

Orange Julius should be the secret weapon on this offense now that Manning is here.
Tamme would be wasted coin now with Dreessen signing.
Julius should be in for a monster year!

Dapper Dan
03-23-2012, 02:24 PM
Yay. We got Tamme.

madmanbryan
03-23-2012, 02:40 PM
Going to be an interesting season..

SpringsBroncoFan
03-23-2012, 02:43 PM
Lol, lot's of unhappy FA TE's... :lol:

CoachChaz
03-23-2012, 02:48 PM
NE had success with the 2 TE system...I guess we're going to see what happens with the 4 TE system

SOCALORADO.
03-23-2012, 03:08 PM
NE had success with the 2 TE system...I guess we're going to see what happens with the 4 TE system

I always saw Thomas as more of a WR anyways. I wouldnt be suprised if they tried to turn him into strictly a WR type of player.

Dapper Dan
03-23-2012, 03:23 PM
Tamme got 3yrs $9 mill

dogfish
03-25-2012, 04:32 AM
NE had success with the 2 TE system...I guess we're going to see what happens with the 4 TE system

or they're going to put the 7th rounder that's facing a suspension on the practice squad, instead of relying on a pair of raw sophmores if we only sign one vet, and he gets hurt. . . or maybe they want tamme to play some H-back, since we don't currently have a fullback on the roster besides sylvester. . .


whatever the plan, you won't catch me complaining about having such a thing as actual depth for once. . . i'd rather have weapons and have to figure out how to use them, than not have them. . . we're clearly loading up to make a run right now, and it's absolutely the right thing to do with manning on board. . . why else do you pay the dude ninety million? it would be disrespectful to do anything less. . .

having guys like thomas deeper on the depth chart will allow us to develop them slowly, and hopefully start preparing a core that can be re-signed in a few years as we transition to the post-manning era. . . or even be brought along as the second wave for years three and four if peyton plays that long. . .

but we're not gonna put training wheels on first- and second-year players while we're trying to compete with the likes of pittsburgh, baltimore, new england and houston-- not if we can help it. . .

i still think we'll see more veteran signings. . . possibly one more wideout, as i think we'll keep six this year. . . maybe stokley as a savvy veteran option out of the slot on third down, with caldwell as the slot guy on first and second. . . or maybe we go after one more youngish guy with upside. . . we could sign a back if we don't get stewart. . . we might still add an OL-- jamaal jackson, jeff faine or andre gurode at center, or an OT like anthony collins or max starks. . .

and i think we'll inevitably sign a vet nosetackle, and possibly still try to nab matt roth to give us a third proven edge rusher-- the D wasn't nearly as good early or late, when one of von doom was nicked up. . . probably still add one more DB as well. . . possibly a jordan babineaux type who has experience at both saefty and corner, although there are still some better pure safeties available if they want to go that route. . .

they'll all be cheap signings, unless we get roth-- or maybe jump in late with a one-year deal for a player like marcus mcneil or david hawthorne, though i doubt it. . . but if nothing else, i think we'll want to invest a little bit of our remaining cap space in some select journeymen and reclamation projects, just to give us legit options and competition across the board going into camp. . . it encourages a true BPA approach in the draft when your bases are covered, it protects you as much as possible against an injury in camp, and the guys that do get cut then provide a usable FA on the market that already knows your scheme if somebody gets hurt in pre-season. . .

now, obviously tamme doesn't fall in that category. . . but i have a feeling we're still shopping, and for once we're going to go all out. . . IMO, not every vet signed this off-season is going to be assured of making the roster, and not just the typical camp body signings. . . the unusual depth of this year's FA group will work in our favor, and as long as we have space left, i just don't see us leaving peyton potentially relying on undrafted rookies anywhere we don't have to. . . of course we'll expect our high picks to be on the roster, but there may only be two of them if we trade for stewart. . . otherwise, i think guys like decker, DT, rahim moore, nate irving, and possibly moreno, walton or beadles are going to be the bulk of our developmental guys for the next couple of years. . . every team keeps some projects and inexpensive later round guys on their first deal, but i would expect the lower portions of our depth chart to be more veteran-heavy than usual. . .

we'll see. . . should be fun. . .

Canmore
03-25-2012, 04:38 AM
or they're going to put the 7th rounder that's facing a suspension on the practice squad, instead of relying on a pair of raw sophmores if we only sign one vet, and he gets hurt. . . or maybe they want tamme to play some H-back, since we don't currently have a fullback on the roster besides sylvester. . .


whatever the plan, you won't catch me complaining about having such a thing as actual depth for once. . . i'd rather have weapons and have to figure out how to use them, than not have them. . . we're clearly loading up to make a run right now, and it's absolutely the right thing to do with manning on board. . . why else do you pay the dude ninety million? it would be disrespectful to do anything less. . .

having guys like thomas deeper on the depth chart will allow us to develop them slowly, and hopefully start preparing a core that can be re-signed in a few years as we transition to the post-manning era. . . or even be brought along as the second wave for years three and four if peyton plays that long. . .

but we're not gonna put training wheels on first- and second-year players while we're trying to compete with the likes of pittsburgh, baltimore, new england and houston-- not if we can help it. . .

i still think we'll see more veteran signings. . . possibly one more wideout, as i think we'll keep six this year. . . maybe stokley as a savvy veteran option out of the slot on third down, with caldwell as the slot guy on first and second. . . or maybe we go after one more youngish guy with upside. . . we could sign a back if we don't get stewart. . . we might still add an OL-- jamaal jackson, jeff faine or andre gurode at center, or an OT like anthony collins or max starks. . .

and i think we'll inevitably sign a vet nosetackle, and possibly still try to nab matt roth to give us a third proven edge rusher-- the D wasn't nearly as good early or late, when one of von doom was nicked up. . . probably still add one more DB as well. . . possibly a jordan babineaux type who has experience at both saefty and corner, although there are still some better pure safeties available if they want to go that route. . .

they'll all be cheap signings, unless we get roth-- or maybe jump in late with a one-year deal for a player like marcus mcneil or david hawthorne, though i doubt it. . . but if nothing else, i think we'll want to invest a little bit of our remaining cap space in some select journeymen and reclamation projects, just to give us legit options and competition across the board going into camp. . . it encourages a true BPA approach in the draft when your bases are covered, it protects you as much as possible against an injury in camp, and the guys that do get cut then provide a usable FA on the market that already knows your scheme if somebody gets hurt in pre-season. . .

now, obviously tamme doesn't fall in that category. . . but i have a feeling we're still shopping, and for once we're going to go all out. . . IMO, not every vet signed this off-season is going to be assured of making the roster, and not just the typical camp body signings. . . the unusual depth of this year's FA group will work in our favor, and as long as we have space left, i just don't see us leaving peyton potentially relying on undrafted rookies anywhere we don't have to. . . of course we'll expect our high picks to be on the roster, but there may only be two of them if we trade for stewart. . . otherwise, i think guys like decker, DT, rahim moore, nate irving, and possibly moreno, walton or beadles are going to be the bulk of our developmental guys for the next couple of years. . . every team keeps some projects and inexpensive later round guys on their first deal, but i would expect the lower portions of our depth chart to be more veteran-heavy than usual. . .

we'll see. . . should be fun. . .

Love your analysis', there insightful and always well thought out.

tomjonesrocks
03-25-2012, 11:06 AM
Can't believe Denver missed on Saturday. That's a blow I think.

IAOFM saying Saturday didn't feel wanted by Denver. Very odd.

tomjonesrocks
03-25-2012, 11:10 AM
Tebow's a goal line monster. Have red zone problems? Adding Tebow to your goal package makes a LOT of sense.

Tim Tebow no longer works for the Denver Broncos. Sorry, man. You have my condolences and all that shit.

You got the wrong guy on that bullshit.

SmilinAssasSin27
03-25-2012, 04:19 PM
Can't believe Denver missed on Saturday. That's a blow I think.

IAOFM saying Saturday didn't feel wanted by Denver. Very odd.

Most here get pissed if we sign anyone over the age of 29. Saturday is OLD. Many around the league don't hate Walton as much as people on this site seem to. Saturday is even quoted as saying the Denver likes their situation. Not a big loss at all IMHO.

Medford Bronco
03-25-2012, 07:16 PM
or they're going to put the 7th rounder that's facing a suspension on the practice squad, instead of relying on a pair of raw sophmores if we only sign one vet, and he gets hurt. . . or maybe they want tamme to play some H-back, since we don't currently have a fullback on the roster besides sylvester. . .


whatever the plan, you won't catch me complaining about having such a thing as actual depth for once. . . i'd rather have weapons and have to figure out how to use them, than not have them. . . we're clearly loading up to make a run right now, and it's absolutely the right thing to do with manning on board. . . why else do you pay the dude ninety million? it would be disrespectful to do anything less. . .

having guys like thomas deeper on the depth chart will allow us to develop them slowly, and hopefully start preparing a core that can be re-signed in a few years as we transition to the post-manning era. . . or even be brought along as the second wave for years three and four if peyton plays that long. . .

but we're not gonna put training wheels on first- and second-year players while we're trying to compete with the likes of pittsburgh, baltimore, new england and houston-- not if we can help it. . .

i still think we'll see more veteran signings. . . possibly one more wideout, as i think we'll keep six this year. . . maybe stokley as a savvy veteran option out of the slot on third down, with caldwell as the slot guy on first and second. . . or maybe we go after one more youngish guy with upside. . . we could sign a back if we don't get stewart. . . we might still add an OL-- jamaal jackson, jeff faine or andre gurode at center, or an OT like anthony collins or max starks. . .

and i think we'll inevitably sign a vet nosetackle, and possibly still try to nab matt roth to give us a third proven edge rusher-- the D wasn't nearly as good early or late, when one of von doom was nicked up. . . probably still add one more DB as well. . . possibly a jordan babineaux type who has experience at both saefty and corner, although there are still some better pure safeties available if they want to go that route. . .

they'll all be cheap signings, unless we get roth-- or maybe jump in late with a one-year deal for a player like marcus mcneil or david hawthorne, though i doubt it. . . but if nothing else, i think we'll want to invest a little bit of our remaining cap space in some select journeymen and reclamation projects, just to give us legit options and competition across the board going into camp. . . it encourages a true BPA approach in the draft when your bases are covered, it protects you as much as possible against an injury in camp, and the guys that do get cut then provide a usable FA on the market that already knows your scheme if somebody gets hurt in pre-season. . .

now, obviously tamme doesn't fall in that category. . . but i have a feeling we're still shopping, and for once we're going to go all out. . . IMO, not every vet signed this off-season is going to be assured of making the roster, and not just the typical camp body signings. . . the unusual depth of this year's FA group will work in our favor, and as long as we have space left, i just don't see us leaving peyton potentially relying on undrafted rookies anywhere we don't have to. . . of course we'll expect our high picks to be on the roster, but there may only be two of them if we trade for stewart. . . otherwise, i think guys like decker, DT, rahim moore, nate irving, and possibly moreno, walton or beadles are going to be the bulk of our developmental guys for the next couple of years. . . every team keeps some projects and inexpensive later round guys on their first deal, but i would expect the lower portions of our depth chart to be more veteran-heavy than usual. . .

we'll see. . . should be fun. . .

Is Dallas Clark to hurt to sign? I was expecting him to come here.