Here's hoping Orton beats out Simms

[GEM]

Chris Simms, the left hander. I'm hoping that Orton has no issue beating him out so that Ryan Clady is still covering the blind side.

[claymore]

Chris Simms, the left hander. I'm hoping that Orton has no issue beating him out so that Ryan Clady is still covering the blind side.

If Simms beats out orton...... We may need to resign Hackney.

[Dirk]

I don't see Simms beating out Orton. Simms is a career backup IMO. :coffee:

[LRtagger]

If Simms beats him out it will be because his dad made some calls to McDaniels.

[NightTrainLayne]

I hate Simms due to his UT connection, but I think he could be a really good back-up QB ala Gary Kubiak. He's smart, and for the most part makes good decisions. Just doesn't have the physical talent to be a season-long starter in the NFL imo.

[bcbronc]

GEM is racist against left handers.

:tsk:

[DallasChief]

I hate Simms due to his UT connection, but I think he could be a really good back-up QB ala Gary Kubiak. He's smart, and for the most part makes good decisions. Just doesn't have the physical talent to be a season-long starter in the NFL imo.

As a bandwagon Sooner fan, you should love Simms. The Longhorns would have been so much better if Mack hadn't handed him the job when Applewhite was clearly better.

[GEM]

GEM is racist against left handers.

:tsk:

I'm racist against my oldest daughter then. :shocked: :lol: Don't tell her that...

[NightTrainLayne]

As a bandwagon Sooner fan, you should love Simms. The Longhorns would have been so much better if Mack hadn't handed him the job when Applewhite was clearly better.

See if I ever do you a favor again.

I've hated UT since I can remember. They are worthy of that whether or not I'm a bandwagon Sooner's fan.

But you're right :salute:. When he's the starter on the opposing team you've got to love it.

[Thnikkaman]

I'm racist against my oldest daughter then. :shocked: :lol: Don't tell her that...

How do you feel about ambidextrous people?

[DallasChief]

See if I ever do you a favor again.

I've hated UT since I can remember. They are worthy of that whether or not I'm a bandwagon Sooner's fan.

But you're right :salute:. When he's the starter on the opposing team you've got to love it.
:D

Isn't your wife a Texan? Tell me she didn't convert to a Soonerite.

[CoachChaz]

Regardless of the PC rhetoric coming out of camp, does anyone truly believe Simms will beat out Orton? Seriously?

[GEM]

Regardless of the PC rhetoric coming out of camp, does anyone truly believe Simms will beat out Orton? Seriously?

I don't particularly think so, but I really hope it wouldn't even be a consideration because of what that would do for Clady.

[GEM]

How do you feel about ambidextrous people?

Using both hands is a damn good thing. ;)

[G_Money]

The Cardinals kept trying to give the QB role to Leinart, and he kept deferring to Warner by having terrible camps. *shrugs* If Orton has the world's worst camp and preseason, and Simms has picked up the offense and seems able to move the ball efficiently...

They're not invested in Orton. If Cutler was struggling to pick up the O and Simms already had it, well, you'd say, "Good, in case Jay gets hurt the backup seems to understand what's going on." But you'd never declare him the starter.

But Orton? Yeah, a rough camp from Orton can bump a theoretically-competent Simms up the food chain.

That would be a bad scenario IMO, but McDaniels needs somebody to run his offense efficiently THIS year, not in some future year.

~G

[Nomad]

The QB competition puts all the pressure on Orton and, JMO, it showed in the interview a little. Simms came here as a backup to begin with so what's he got to lose. But, I don't think Orton loses the starting role.

[CoachChaz]

There are always unique situations, but I'm going to go with the safe bet and expect #18 to start the season under center.

[TXBRONC]

Chris Simms, the left hander. I'm hoping that Orton has no issue beating him out so that Ryan Clady is still covering the blind side.

Even if Clady isn't protecting the blind side because Simms is the starter it wont make him any less effective or important to our offense.

[DallasChief]

There are always unique situations, but I'm going to go with the safe bet and expect #18 to start the season under center.

I thought I read that #18 was retired?

[G_Money]

There are always unique situations, but I'm going to go with the safe bet and expect #18 to start the season under center.

It's definitely his job to lose, whatever McDaniels says about "competition." But he had trouble with Grossman in Chicago, so I can't say he's a lock.

~G

[CoachChaz]

I thought I read that #18 was retired?

They have him listed as #18 on the roster

[CoachChaz]

It's definitely his job to lose, whatever McDaniels says about "competition." But he had trouble with Grossman in Chicago, so I can't say he's a lock.

~G

Grossman was the more experienced at the time. I think there were circumstances that surrounded that at the time. But...anything is possible.

[DallasChief]

They have him listed as #18 on the roster

Retired numbers
John Elway – #7
Frank Tripucka – #18
Floyd Little – #44

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denver_Broncos#Retired_numbers

[BroncoWave]

They have him listed as #18 on the roster

I heard they gave him #8.

[TXBRONC]

They have him listed as #18 on the roster

The official website has him listed as number 8. DC is right number 18 was retired a long time ago.

[TXBRONC]

I heard they gave him #8.

That's what the offical website has him listed as.

[drewloc]

I'm racist against my oldest daughter then. :shocked: :lol: Don't tell her that...

There is nothing wrong with someone who has good command of their left. :salute:

[shank]

How do you feel about ambidextrous people?

one drop rule

[CoachChaz]

The official website has him listed as number 8. DC is right number 18 was retired a long time ago.

I must have read it wrong...my bad.

[tubby]

I thought I read that #18 was retired?

Correct. You are a Broncos Freak!

[DallasChief]

Correct. You are a Broncos Freak!

No, I just troll all of Topscribe's posts. :D

[tubby]

#18 is special to KO, he should call Tripucka and ask for permission to wear it. Unless Tripucka is dead.

[NightTrainLayne]

#18 is special to KO, he should call Tripucka and ask for permission to wear it. Unless Tripucka is dead.

:tsk:

[TXBRONC]

I must have read it wrong...my bad.

It could happen to anyone, it no big deal. :salute:

[Dirk]

Using both hands is a damn good thing. ;)


Took me a minute to go back to a "football" frame of mind.

Thanks for making my mind wander a bit about you Gem. ;)

[tubby]

:tsk:

What? I am dead serious.

18 means something to KO. Do some research Bad Neighbor.

[Rex]

:tsk:

Do a google search you elitist *****!

[Dirk]

So I am not being mean or nothing. But does the below warrant retiring his number?

Good info though on being the first QB to throw a TD in the AFL. I had no idea.



The American Football League was founded in 1960, and Tripucka's old coach at Saskatchewan, Frank Filchock, was hired as the first coach of the new league's Denver Broncos. He brought Tripucka with him as an assistant coach. However the Broncos also had quarterback problems, and in preseason Filchock sent Tripucka in as a player. He became their first starting quarterback in the regular season and played with the team for four seasons. He was the first U.S. pro quarterback to throw for 3,000 yards in a season. He also threw the first touchdown pass in the history of the AFL. In 1962 he was named to the AFL All Star team.

Tripucka retired in 1963 after 15 profesional seasons. The Broncos subsequently retired his uniform #18.

[getlynched47]

I'll be so pissed if Simms beats out Orton :tsk:

If that turns out to be the case, we probably would've been better off keeping our 5th round pick and the Bears keep Orton :lol:

[Broncolingus]

Simms will not 'beat out' Orton...

Unless injury, illness, Bus Cook...you know, the normal.

[claymore]

So I am not being mean or nothing. But does the below warrant retiring his number?

Good info though on being the first QB to throw a TD in the AFL. I had no idea.



The American Football League was founded in 1960, and Tripucka's old coach at Saskatchewan, Frank Filchock, was hired as the first coach of the new league's Denver Broncos. He brought Tripucka with him as an assistant coach. However the Broncos also had quarterback problems, and in preseason Filchock sent Tripucka in as a player. He became their first starting quarterback in the regular season and played with the team for four seasons. He was the first U.S. pro quarterback to throw for 3,000 yards in a season. He also threw the first touchdown pass in the history of the AFL. In 1962 he was named to the AFL All Star team.

Tripucka retired in 1963 after 15 profesional seasons. The Broncos subsequently retired his uniform #18.

If He was a raider or steeler he would be in the HOF.

[Broncolingus]

If He was a raider or steeler he would be in the HOF.

True That!

[Buff]

Just after hearing 1 press conference from both guys, I think it's pretty clear who the natural leader is... Orton sat down and was all business--asked who was going to ask a question first... Simms sat down and smiled at everyone goofily until a reporter took the lead...

Not much to read into, but having heard about both of their reputations... I can begin to see where Simms may come across as being a little soft.

[Dirk]

If He was a raider or steeler he would be in the HOF.

Sad but utterly true. So much "non" love for the boys in Orange and Blue. :tsk:

[TXBRONC]

Just after hearing 1 press conference from both guys, I think it's pretty clear who the natural leader is... Orton sat down and was all business--asked who was going to ask a question first... Simms sat down and smiled at everyone goofily until a reporter took the lead...

Not much to read into, but having heard about both of their reputations... I can begin to see where Simms may come across as being a little soft.

This wouldn't be because you're CU fan and Simms played at UT would it?

I think came across about the same, I wont call a guy soft who played most of a football game with ruptured spleen.

[turftoad]

McD must like what he see's from Simms. He signed him to a pretty decent contract for a backup.

It's Ortons job to lose.

Let the best man win.

[CoachChaz]

If college attended matters, I can name more starting QB's from Purdue than I can from Ut-erus

[TXBRONC]

If college attended matters, I can name more starting QB's from Purdue than I can from Ut-erus

Maybe so but coming from an A&M fan what does that say? :D

[DallasChief]

Is CU and UT a rivalry?

[Dr Velcro]

It's like a snake and a mongoose.

[LRtagger]

Regardless of the PC rhetoric coming out of camp, does anyone truly believe Simms will beat out Orton? Seriously?

Well, going on the fact that the final piece of trading Cutler to da bears was the fact that McDaniels wanted Orton over any other QB available tells me he will go into camp as the #1 QB and Simms would have to beat him out to earn that spot. I think its a wash talent-wise and Orton will be the default starter.

[Buff]

Is CU and UT a rivalry?

No, we'd have to win occasionally for it to be considered a rivalry... But I do have a healthy hatred for all things longhorn.


This wouldn't be because you're CU fan and Simms played at UT would it?

I think came across about the same, I wont call a guy soft who played most of a football game with ruptured spleen.

Well, maybe soft is the wrong word... I actually like Simms compared to most longhorns... But he was maligned even when he was at UT. I'm just saying that he doesn't have the reputation of being the meanest, most intimidating guy around by any means. I don't know that he's a guy who'll grab a teammate by the facemask and tell them to get their shit together. I feel like Orton is more of that guy.

[CoachChaz]

Maybe so but coming from an A&M fan what does that say? :D

Prove an Aggie wrong and find me a UT starter. You pick...Drew brees or Vince Young.

[CoachChaz]

Well, going on the fact that the final piece of trading Cutler to da bears was the fact that McDaniels wanted Orton over any other QB available tells me he will go into camp as the #1 QB and Simms would have to beat him out to earn that spot. I think its a wash talent-wise and Orton will be the default starter.

I think I'd disagree on the talent and ability comparison, but good point, nonetheless.

[TXBRONC]

No, we'd have to win occasionally for it to be considered a rivalry... But I do have a healthy hatred for all things longhorn.



Well, maybe soft is the wrong word... I actually like Simms compared to most longhorns... But he was maligned even when he was at UT. I'm just saying that he doesn't have the reputation of being the meanest, most intimidating guy around by any means. I don't know that he's a guy who'll grab a teammate by the facemask and tell them to get their shit together. I feel like Orton is more of that guy.

I agree Simms hasn't ever been considered a tough minded quarterback, if he makes a competent back up quarterback I'll be perfectly fine with that.

[TXBRONC]

Prove an Aggie wrong and find me a UT starter. You pick...Drew brees or Vince Young.

I'm just messin around a little. But anyway, certainly Drew Brees is a superior quarterback to Vince Young.

[DenBronx]

Chris Simms, the left hander. I'm hoping that Orton has no issue beating him out so that Ryan Clady is still covering the blind side.

that would really screw up our oline. their already learning a new blocking system and to switch sides wouldnt be good.

[getlynched47]

that would really screw up our oline. their already learning a new blocking system and to switch sides wouldnt be good.

It was pretty stupid for McDaniels not to take that into account. I wonder if he even thought about having to move Clady to Right Tackle if Chris Simms gets the starting job. From what McDaniels has shown me, I doubt he thought of that :coffee:

[honz]

that would really screw up our oline. their already learning a new blocking system and to switch sides wouldnt be good.

We wouldn't necessarily have to switch up the OLine. Ryan Harris is pretty good himself and was projected to be our starting LT last year before we drafted Clady.

[slim]

No, we'd have to win occasionally for it to be considered a rivalry... But I do have a healthy hatred for all things longhorn.



Well, maybe soft is the wrong word... I actually like Simms compared to most longhorns... But he was maligned even when he was at UT. I'm just saying that he doesn't have the reputation of being the meanest, most intimidating guy around by any means. I don't know that he's a guy who'll grab a teammate by the facemask and tell them to get their shit together. I feel like Orton is more of that guy.

It's hard to be intimidating when you look like Opie.

[getlynched47]

We wouldn't necessarily have to switch up the OLine. Ryan Harris is pretty good himself and was projected to be our starting LT last year before we drafted Clady.

Not necessarily. It was going to be a three way battle between Erik Pears, Chris Kuper, and Ryan Harris.

But they decided against moving Kuper from guard to tackle and drafted Ryan Clady.

Ryan Harris would get so owned by guys like Julius Peppers and Jared Allen :laugh:

[GEM]

Retired numbers
John Elway – #7
Frank Tripucka – #18
Floyd Little – #44

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denver_Broncos#Retired_numbers

Look at the Broncos knowledge on DC! :D

[GEM]

We wouldn't necessarily have to switch up the OLine. Ryan Harris is pretty good himself and was projected to be our starting LT last year before we drafted Clady.

I was talking to my dad about this and there is no way you could switch Clady around, it wouldn't be good for him to do that. Harris is pretty good...but he isn't Clady. :shrugs:

[Broncolingus]

I was talking to my dad about this and there is no way you could switch Clady around, it wouldn't be good for him to do that. Harris is pretty good...but he isn't Clady. :shrugs:

You are correct, ma'am! Clady ABSOLUTELY stays where he is...

Dude is a 'franchise' Left Tackle...and an All-Pro as a rookie.

[GEM]

I was talking to my dad about this and there is no way you could switch Clady around, it wouldn't be good for him to do that. Harris is pretty good...but he isn't Clady. :shrugs:


Hence why I said I hope for other reasons that Orton beats out left handed Simms.

[TXBRONC]

Hence why I said I hope for other reasons that Orton beats out left handed Simms.

Even if Simms wins the job I don't see them moving Clady from the left to the right. If Simms is clearly the better quarterback by the end of camp shouldn't that be who starts regardless of which hand they throw with?

[GEM]

Even if Simms wins the job I don't see them moving Clady from the left to the right. If Simms is clearly the better quarterback by the end of camp shouldn't that be who starts regardless of which hand they throw with?

Definitely. It was just another thought process of why I'd rather see Orton win the job.

[silkamilkamonico]

I think McDaniels will give Orton every chance to succeed, and if Orton can't hack it we don't want him starting anyways. Simms is a smart QB who is very accurate, but he has such a low release and led the league in batted balls at the LoS as the starter in TB.

[TXBRONC]

Definitely. It was just another thought process of why I'd rather see Orton win the job.

Since Orton and Simms are what we have to work with right now, if Orton wins out I'm fine with it and if Simms wins out I'm fine with that as well.

[LoyalSoldier]

GEM is racist against left handers.

:tsk:

Wait wouldn't that be anti-handetic?